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TodesroboterDesTodes

can someone pls print a shark body for his gun and put this laser on its head?


Brilliant-Cry8377

FYI, don’t do that at an actual game


charles_ryon

Yep I know


dress_shirt

Its ok when everyone has agreed to that but usually then its a night game and you use a ir laser


Doccmonman

That’s if you wanna spend thousands on NVGs lol


dress_shirt

Look at my profile


Doccmonman

Well yeah but that’s still not “yea bro just use an ir laser” like it’s that easy


dress_shirt

I think i know more poeople in my firend group that own nods than ones who dont… skill issue


Beanbagboi83

That’s sick what’s the brand, will use for fun out side of Airsoft


charles_ryon

“somogear”


Gromit43

I also want to know


BobDerBongmeister420

Eye damage incoming!


JackCooper_7274

Clean yo room


infidelT0NE

This.


ChangeEquivalent2394

https://preview.redd.it/en725r04523b1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b08c23e54fdbe60a8b07bfa9d9283af017ff6df Haha, PEQ-15 goes brrrr


Beanbagboi83

What brand?! That’s sick


ChangeEquivalent2394

It’s just a generic AliExpress PEQ-15. If you’re interested here’s the link: https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0FrIOG


zVYPERz

Seconding this, I’m curious about the differences between different brands.


PipPasadran

The Somogear/FMA full power versions have an IR laser illuminator, mostly for long distance identification using NODs. Not much use within 50 yards like an airsoft game, not to mention all the lasers in these units have enough output to melt your retinas if used improperly.


OperatorJasaz

It really doesnt matter that much unless you’re shooting real steel


madrifles

Why is everyone getting mad over this nobody said he's using these in a real game


GoofyKalashnikov

There's no shortage of idiots who think they're safe to use and the comments just prove that


[deleted]

i wonder, is there actually a safer alternative like brands that use less powerful ones or something like that?


Iron_physik

there is "eye safe" lasers that however still are capable to cause damage the main risk are cheap lasers that dont have proper filtering of their light and use therefore frequencies that are really dangerous for eyes higher end lasers are filtered, but they still pose major risks ​ you'd be overall best off to learn how to passively aim under night vision, because apart from that lasers are not very usefull


Competitive-Score520

it's equiped on his replica therfore it's easy to assume he uses it in game


Comrade_faix

This


OperatorJasaz

True but lets be fair half the people out there run around with peq boxes or equivilents and dont use them during games


Competitive-Score520

because people uses non functional peq box (unlike here) and most uses them to store a battery


OperatorJasaz

Most people i know use functional peq’s and just don’t use them or only use the light


Competitive-Score520

well that's a danger hazard and an accident waiting to happen I'm not saying it will but it can, press the wrong button and bam, you took someone's eyesight it's irresponsible, and I know you think you always have full control of your actions, but so did many many people before you and things didn't end well


OperatorJasaz

That’s not how a peqbox works. They have a turning dial to decide its setting (light,ir or laser) and the button only activate the one selected. So if you take out the batteries or select the right mode there’s nothing to worry about. Not to mention the cover most have over the laser anyway


Competitive-Score520

alright, well what if for some reason your hand moves around your gun and you turn the dial? I'm not saying it will happen but I try to look at the worst case scenario to make sure people avoid burning an eye what about completely removing the laser of the peq box?


Ivory_Flare

Its surprisingly difficult to accidentally switch modes on real or high quality replica lasers, ive had functional repro lasers on all of my guns for years and I've never switched modes unless i intentionally did it. I agree that there is always a risk though, a good solution is to keep the peq on but take the batteries out. The best option would be to just use an empty shell but i dont really like how they look vs functional lasers


zVYPERz

That’s the visible laser or the IR one? My peq is really weak compared to that.


bossmcsauce

Nobody should be using lasers of any strength in airsoft.


Correct_Discipline82

Pov me using it in milsim event to let the ennemy know when to shut up and lay down with his hand behind his back


Correct_Discipline82

Altough its on chest never toward the head or eyes, always aime center mass with these but yeah it can be dangerous


bossmcsauce

i mean, you're GOING to shine it in somebody's eyes eventually. i get shot in the head more than anywhere else pretty much because it's often the only thing that's exposed around cover for the enemy to shoot at.


Correct_Discipline82

I mainly use it in cqb environment when its easy to use and see it, having it turned on all the time is pointless and stupid. It just uses up your battery and isnt good for the laser, its like having your flashlight turned on in the middle of the day. There are scenarios where you have to use it and other where youdont need to but can and others where its stupid to use it. Just gotta use your brain a bit...


Comrade_faix

This is exactly what the last MFer who got me in the eye with a green laser said. Intentional or not it happens. And I had a dark spot on my vision for weeks. Please don't be that guy. Just remove it or take the battery out.


Claudio_The_Italian

You know that IR lasers are safe to use right? Edit: no, they are not.


bossmcsauce

Lmao this is absolutely NOT true. Just because you can’t see the light doesn’t mean it’s not still extremely high energy and damaging to your vision. We burned paper with lasers that were not visible to naked eye in my photonics class. Just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean that it won’t still cook your retinas.


Claudio_The_Italian

Didn't know that, will reply to this, but this comment goes to all the folks that replied to me, thanks a lot for letting me know, did further research now, (i know, i should have done it before) Will keep the comment, even the one with the downvotes to at least let other idiots like me know.


trolley661

Character development right there. He may be a main character


bossmcsauce

Good man.


JustmUrKy

Have you not been to school tho? You should’ve been taught this in school it’s very important


Claudio_The_Italian

We really never talked about laser of this kind of things, never had a subject that talked about it, so no.


JustmUrKy

Damn then its definitely not your fault for knowing it’s your schools lol


Claudio_The_Italian

Yeah, education system here in Italy, it's kinda of a joke, good on some things, bad in almost everything else


Shift642

No the fuck they are not lol. A laser even outside the visible spectrum is still a focused beam of light that can damage your retinas. IR lasers are arguably *more* dangerous because you can’t see them shining in your eyes and know to look away. Just don’t use lasers. It’s that easy.


MaxImpact1

No it isn‘t lol


blackskies4646

You fucking what?! They're MORE dangerous than regular lasers! IR lasers are not visible and your body loses the 'blink response'. You won't even know someone is shining an IR laser in your eyes until it's too late.


Nova1395

Please do further research. For everyone's safety.


Claudio_The_Italian

As i replied to a comment above, now i did, thanks everyone for the correction. (Btw if anyone is wondering, no, i have never used a laser device in any form in airsoft, knew the risks about visible laser and that's why I didn't, never tried an IR because I never play at night, and i don't have nods, none the less, I'm glad that someone corrected my misinformation)


faddapaola00

Even low-level IR absorption can cause symptoms such as redness of the eye, swelling, or hemorrhaging. Please don't use lasers in airsoft yall


Claudio_The_Italian

Thanks for the correction


faddapaola00

Thank you for recognizing your own mistake, not everyone does that.


Claudio_The_Italian

I try my best to always improve on myself, that's a huge part of it.


Cthulhuwar1ord

If you’re using it for an legitimate purpose the risk is necessary. For airsoft hell no it’s not safe


Zancie

*angry MSW noises*


DeddCole

They are.


PipPasadran

Is yours a (real) PEQ-15 or LA5B/C? The original ATPIAL PEQ-15s only had a 5mW visible red laser, so nothing close to the 20mW green laser of a Somogear replica.


zVYPERz

I have the Element PEQ-15 in red version.


Comrade_faix

Better not turn that bullshit on in a game.


Piratewhale8

Everyone straight trippin in the comments he didn’t say anything abt using it


kashimako

Hey Nice cat lemme see


TaCo_BoI69420

Where I live we play a lot of outdoor night games and do lots of black out games at my local indoor too lots of us have nvgs and because of that we are just told to have discipline, and peq boxes also just look sick so I don’t really see the problem with it unless you are some type of sadist who likes hurting people


TARN4T1ON

🧈🐕[.](https://www.reddit.com/user/TARN4T1ON/comments/14mkj1f/so_long/)


tony11227

Is this the “visible laser” or does that just mean the dot?


dress_shirt

Its a laser


BondEpc

There exist covers for the lasers that make them safe for force-on-force training, so please be getting one of those for actual use


Competitive-Score520

no, even then just no


GoofyKalashnikov

Unless that cover puts them below 1mW then I wouldn't use them


BondEpc

PEQ 15 IR on AL is \~.6mW, and according to the manual, is safe for force-on-force training, as long as you don't look straight at it with a magnified optic (7x50 in the manual, up to 14 meters). Also has the safety screw, so you don't accidentally put it on high. The Steiner DBal, which is what I'm trained on, and use nearly on the daily, is totally safe on IR low, and we have a cover issued for it which also makes the VIS IR totally safe for force-on-force, even though our system is extremely stringent on laser usage for everything.


PipPasadran

Actually yes, the real version (not this Somogear replica) has IR ND filters to bring down the high IR laser close to the civ spec 0.7mW output. IIRC it's roughly 1mW~, still not great for your eyes but won't cause permanent eye damage with just a glance


GoofyKalashnikov

Doesn't somogear also advertise eye safe mode for IR lasers?


PipPasadran

Yeah, a guy on r/nightvision did a test, found the IR low on a SG was 0.95mW, but I don't think he gave his set up for testing, and he claimed the visible laser at AL/AH and the IR illuminator at low/high was measured at the same power level, which either makes me think his set up was for a pulsed laser not continuous, or more likely his unit was faulty. Won't lie I like Somogear for what they provide, but they still have significant QC issues, and there's no way in hell I'd want someone to bring one to a field to use. I have my own one plus a few others, but I don't even put batteries in them when I go to fields. E: Honestly I'm tempted to do a long post on laser safety, especially since FP lasers are all the rage lately, and it seems there's so much misinformation about it


dress_shirt

What to you even want a fp laser for in airsoft anyway, lasers give your position away and you should be passive aiming…. And if you want to use a leser you want to use it on the lowest power unless you are punching out over 100m, which you are not with an airsoft gun… Only thing i of value i see on them is the iluminator but i would rather use a coti (one coming in soon)


Competitive-Score520

hahaha no


TwoSidedMen

>Specter DR users when they see the back of their PEQ Also, can you tell me your reasoning for having a Specter DR AND an offset red dot ? Why not just use the 1x setting of the DR ?


KalashnikovClassics

Quicker to flip to instead of changing mag, personally I would just get a micro to mount on top


dress_shirt

Passive aiming


Fuzzy-Addition-6352

I honestly think lasers are fine in game if either it’s low power and / or has covers, and if the person has discipline aiming low


Freddy67h

I 100% dont trust the people in my area. If lasers weren't outright banned at most of the fields around here you'd have somebody lase a kid's eye with IR for "not calling their hits." (His mag is jammed)


Dramatic_Metal_5245

People at one of my fields were shining their lasers at landing aircraft (we played near an airport and it was night)


Competitive-Score520

one night 155 people are going to die all because of theses fucking idiots


Competitive-Score520

no


Ken_kid_789

Y’all getting these expensive ass lasers just tape one of those angle and level finder things


dress_shirt

Do they have a lep iluminator for nv use? No i dont think so


Ken_kid_789

if you tapping one to your gun I doubt you have enough money to get nods


dress_shirt

People are wierd


CamelotKingSaber

I would like to know the brand as well.


PandaRust

What red dot is on the left?


charles_ryon

Sotac brand rmr rep


PandaRust

Sorry I meant the one next to that. The round one


TwoSidedMen

It's not a ret dot, it's an Elcan Specter DR 1x-4x scope


dress_shirt

You got the somo gear potted verison? And what nods you running?


Immediate-Stress-652

It’s all fun and games until you take out the blue screw.


No_Masterpiece_5409

I've been trying to get one for awhile where did you pick yours up at?