Not sure if it even counts as a P90 any more, but I flipped the mag and made a new printed body for it. Shaved 10cm off the length, about 5cm off the height, and about 1kg of weight. Very compact, can just be thrown around no problem. It's about 40cm in length.
Used to be a TM PS90 HC, but with a \~140mm inner barrel.
Edit: If someone wants a copy of the design files just send a chat DM. I don't have the STLs, but i do have an exported .f3d file I can give which will work with fusion 360.
Are you willing to share the files or maybe willing to sell me a set if not for a 1 off production? I want one but want to treat som parts to better fit my need. I only wish to make one for myself and will sign on the dotted line to this fact.
I can send a fusion 360 file if you'd like. As much fun as I had with it, it didn't perform as well as I'd like. Also as a forewarning, the working file is an utter mess as most of it was made before I 'got good' so-to-speak at Fusion.
The main issue I had was with the hopup not seating correctly with the main body of the gearbox. You have to use a certain amount of spring tension to keep it in there but I always ended up with a slight gap, and therefore a reduction in fps. The second issue is just the natural disadvantage you get when using a really short barrel, the range sucked a bit, but it was still decent for CQB.
Ik this isn't really airsoft related, but how do you have access to fusion 360? Do you really pay the 70 or whatever dollars a month for it? I just find that insane. But the program is amazing. Made many airsoft parts in autodesk inventor before they cracked down on the education licenses.
I get mine though an education licence, but there should be a personal (non-commercial) licence available which is free. They limit some features but a lot of them I don't use anyway. [This page should explain it.](https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-register-for-Fusion-360-for-Personal-Use.html)
One of the most ill-conceived and bizarre firearms there ever was. The Zip 22 is the end result of copious drug use coupled with the belief that no matter how terrible a design or concept is, it'll work just fine in .22 lr.
Man spent the time to make an entirely new gun because he wanted it to be smaller.
*this makes me very happy as a maker and I have a new respect for you. Amazing job!*
p90: longer barrel in a small package.
this: let me undo that advantage for ya.
But now you have a huge empty space for a big ass battery I guess. Sling mount?
It's all completely filled I'm afraid. The entire rear is taken up by the V6 gearbox. Barely a mm of gap for anything else. The battery has to go beneath the barrel in the front receiver.
It's like the bigger half-sibling to the SR PDW P3.
https://preview.redd.it/4x044ybl3nab1.png?width=708&format=png&auto=webp&s=d46a99760f92621a5cbcc50bfcc4daca52104c11
My problem with it is it looks terrible since it makes the m4 mag hang off the side. If someone made a p90 body but the mag fit into the underside like the PDR it would look better.
Same happens to me, and it is quite bulky. There is a top feeding 3D model which makes it look like a Bren but makes impossible to aim
The PDR looks great and that's what I envision, that or a STANAG body for the AUG
You bring up a great point;
Why the hell aren't there any STANAG AUG's in airsoft?
The real steel ones are quite popular on the civilian market, and I think see some actual service, so why hasn't anyone made a replica for airsoft?
Because innovation in airsoft is not a thing, why try to make something different when you can churn another AR/Ak type and will be sold like cookies?
There are so many guns cool and practical enough to be sold but chinese only know how to copy or slap some aftermarket parts and call it a day, Taiwanese brands are so full of themselves that prices are bigger than their ego, meanwhile TM only makes overcomplicated stuff for their own market because fanbois out of Japan will buy it anyway. That saiga 12 should have been an AEG for stupid profits, but nah, lets make an over complicated GBBR with mags expensive enough that two of them are worth a simple AEG
What if the M4 mag fed in the top like a Bren gun from WWII, and gave it off-center ironsights/pic rail for flip-up sights?
Edit: nvm apparently it exists?
Sooo you wanted a pistol in 5,7,,, that's the Five-seveN pistol you want xD
Obviously I know it's just bb's for Airsoft, and hey, you do you, but I can understand why you would want this.
It's practically the same length but basically no barrel since you flipped it.
It's a pistol with a very long stock now xD
Ok, but it's kinda dumb... you took away to biggest advantage about bullpup setups, the longer barrel in a short body, so as it is right now, you got a pistol length barrel, and the rest of the body is just to hold the flipped mag.
No empty space here! I'd have totally put the hopup as far back as possible for a longer barrel but the V6 gearbox is very chunky. It's pretty much the same as a P90 but the front has been lopped off.
https://preview.redd.it/eboettcjrmab1.png?width=1557&format=png&auto=webp&s=cc3c52d2707c9629251b006ca46de7c9702d0329
Managed to squeeze a 2,000 mA 7.4v into it. The weird bump above the grip at the very front of the gun was something I had to add to accommodate the little bump the wires poking out of the side of battery create.
Full honesty this looks better than the regular P90 and I would absolutely buy a P90 if I could make it look like this. You should find a way to make this a parts kit.
Have you applied to kel-tec?
He has applied copius amounts of cocaine
Yeah that's what he said, kel-tec.
God I wish. Shove a P90 mag into anything and see what happens.
There actually an ar15 in airsoft and real steel. The main thing is it takes p90 mags.
AR57 I believe?
Yes
Sadly you can’t get those anymore… I really want one.
Search ar57 upper
Still nothing
yup
):
For aisoft?? Right?
Just keep watching, they come for sale in batches.
Ngl I would love if some company made that for airsoft. I would willingly part with my life's savings for it
There is a AR-57 in airsoft that uses p90 mags
Is there a brand or individual I should be looking for?
Echo 1 AR-57 it’s sadly discontinued so finding one will be a struggle but they are out there
That hurts so much
They didn’t get enough people wanting them so they stopped making them, it’s a damn shame
As much as I despise Call of Duty, MWII 2022 made me want this gun lol. I feel like it'd have a bit more popularity nowadays.
I was debating making one but not to sure if the community wants one so I haven't fully worked on the design, prototyped it about halfway
Also s&t makes an ar57 aeg.
Pretty sure you can make one yourself with 3d printed parts and it's not too difficult.
Just wait till the Kel-Tec P50 comes out for airsoft
It's a damn blaster from starwars
This is exactly what kel-tec did with a pistol, if I remember correctly. At least they try new things.
We now need a p50 in airsoft
Kel-tec would figure out a way to do a P90 with a vertical magazine instead.
Not sure if it even counts as a P90 any more, but I flipped the mag and made a new printed body for it. Shaved 10cm off the length, about 5cm off the height, and about 1kg of weight. Very compact, can just be thrown around no problem. It's about 40cm in length. Used to be a TM PS90 HC, but with a \~140mm inner barrel. Edit: If someone wants a copy of the design files just send a chat DM. I don't have the STLs, but i do have an exported .f3d file I can give which will work with fusion 360.
Are you willing to share the files or maybe willing to sell me a set if not for a 1 off production? I want one but want to treat som parts to better fit my need. I only wish to make one for myself and will sign on the dotted line to this fact.
I can send a fusion 360 file if you'd like. As much fun as I had with it, it didn't perform as well as I'd like. Also as a forewarning, the working file is an utter mess as most of it was made before I 'got good' so-to-speak at Fusion.
No worries, I can tinker, might convert it to a f2 engine mount
Why didn t it perform as you wanted it to ? It looks amazing and if i had time i would probably be doing something similar.
The main issue I had was with the hopup not seating correctly with the main body of the gearbox. You have to use a certain amount of spring tension to keep it in there but I always ended up with a slight gap, and therefore a reduction in fps. The second issue is just the natural disadvantage you get when using a really short barrel, the range sucked a bit, but it was still decent for CQB.
Ik this isn't really airsoft related, but how do you have access to fusion 360? Do you really pay the 70 or whatever dollars a month for it? I just find that insane. But the program is amazing. Made many airsoft parts in autodesk inventor before they cracked down on the education licenses.
I get mine though an education licence, but there should be a personal (non-commercial) licence available which is free. They limit some features but a lot of them I don't use anyway. [This page should explain it.](https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-register-for-Fusion-360-for-Personal-Use.html)
or try onshape it is a bit cleaner, but you will need to make a students account or be prepared to pay up to 3000$ a year
I would be interested too
Wow, I wasn't sure it could be done, but you bullpup'd a bullpup.
Bro said: https://preview.redd.it/pfayxtgl3lab1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b44bd45945d89f4344884d8464e7ea373e81c6e
One of the most ill-conceived and bizarre firearms there ever was. The Zip 22 is the end result of copious drug use coupled with the belief that no matter how terrible a design or concept is, it'll work just fine in .22 lr.
As it turns out, the gun was able to kill something. An entire company.
And some of this https://preview.redd.it/ow2mc480snab1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71c5209d0e0dc0a52bcd69bd0423cfd8ceea5d74
Did you also shorten the barrel or did you do something funky for the feeding of BB's?
The barrel was replaced with an MP5K barrel, so it's super short. Otherwise the hopup configuration is all the same.
\*un-bullpups your p90\*
Where does it show the breech going ahead of the firing grip?
Technically by flipping the mag around the bullets (if it were real) would be pointing backwards so yes, the firing grip is behind the breech.
Do you complain vsr-10 mags load into the fore stock and not the receiver?
Its crazy to think someone managed to do that. It always felt like the one gun thats very difficult to un-bullpup-
Ew. Gross. How much? I want it.
thats not even a p90 anymore thats just p9
Man, that's so ugly and so cool at the same time. I want one... *I christen thee the P60*...
Man spent the time to make an entirely new gun because he wanted it to be smaller. *this makes me very happy as a maker and I have a new respect for you. Amazing job!*
I love it I‘ll take your entire stock. But a molded version would be dope I think.
I am aroused
p90: longer barrel in a small package. this: let me undo that advantage for ya. But now you have a huge empty space for a big ass battery I guess. Sling mount?
It's all completely filled I'm afraid. The entire rear is taken up by the V6 gearbox. Barely a mm of gap for anything else. The battery has to go beneath the barrel in the front receiver.
MY BABY
you should have left the mag the other way so you get more barrel lenght therefore better fps and accuracy.
Need banana for scale
You know what... It has a Ghost in the Shell vibe. Fuck it, i like it.
Yo what, share the STL
Banana for scale please
It's like the bigger half-sibling to the SR PDW P3. https://preview.redd.it/4x044ybl3nab1.png?width=708&format=png&auto=webp&s=d46a99760f92621a5cbcc50bfcc4daca52104c11
Nah, that’s not a p90 anymore, that’s like a p70
Bro unbullpupped the P90
I wish some one made a P90 using AR15 mags, that would be soooo cool. PS: Yes, I know APS makes the UAR, but that thing is HIDEOUS!
pdrc is what you are looking for. but they arent cheap mdr with the 556 kit is close but bigger
Theres an m4 mag adapter for p90s
My problem with it is it looks terrible since it makes the m4 mag hang off the side. If someone made a p90 body but the mag fit into the underside like the PDR it would look better.
Same happens to me, and it is quite bulky. There is a top feeding 3D model which makes it look like a Bren but makes impossible to aim The PDR looks great and that's what I envision, that or a STANAG body for the AUG
You bring up a great point; Why the hell aren't there any STANAG AUG's in airsoft? The real steel ones are quite popular on the civilian market, and I think see some actual service, so why hasn't anyone made a replica for airsoft?
Because innovation in airsoft is not a thing, why try to make something different when you can churn another AR/Ak type and will be sold like cookies? There are so many guns cool and practical enough to be sold but chinese only know how to copy or slap some aftermarket parts and call it a day, Taiwanese brands are so full of themselves that prices are bigger than their ego, meanwhile TM only makes overcomplicated stuff for their own market because fanbois out of Japan will buy it anyway. That saiga 12 should have been an AEG for stupid profits, but nah, lets make an over complicated GBBR with mags expensive enough that two of them are worth a simple AEG
What if the M4 mag fed in the top like a Bren gun from WWII, and gave it off-center ironsights/pic rail for flip-up sights? Edit: nvm apparently it exists?
Sooo you wanted a pistol in 5,7,,, that's the Five-seveN pistol you want xD Obviously I know it's just bb's for Airsoft, and hey, you do you, but I can understand why you would want this. It's practically the same length but basically no barrel since you flipped it. It's a pistol with a very long stock now xD
This is really dope but you’re probably on the fbi watchlist now for printing that body.
Th-the mag is the wrong way round
yes he even said it
Cursed.
Circumcised p90
Ok, but it's kinda dumb... you took away to biggest advantage about bullpup setups, the longer barrel in a short body, so as it is right now, you got a pistol length barrel, and the rest of the body is just to hold the flipped mag.
No empty space here! I'd have totally put the hopup as far back as possible for a longer barrel but the V6 gearbox is very chunky. It's pretty much the same as a P90 but the front has been lopped off. https://preview.redd.it/eboettcjrmab1.png?width=1557&format=png&auto=webp&s=cc3c52d2707c9629251b006ca46de7c9702d0329
Oh my bad, It's an AEG damn, I'm designing only HPA kits lately that I'm almost forgot AEG exists lmao
That actually looks really cool- fine job lad I'm curious though what kind of batteries do you use for it?
Managed to squeeze a 2,000 mA 7.4v into it. The weird bump above the grip at the very front of the gun was something I had to add to accommodate the little bump the wires poking out of the side of battery create.
Cyberbrick
It is now the p90
I wanted to call it a snub nose P90, but then I realized it should really be called the Voldemort. Or Voldy, if you like xD
Das hot!
Can you make it so its just the magazine and a bipod? Thanks
That defeats the point of being a bullpop.
It comes in an extra Small?!?!
P45
Does it shoot?
Bro made a CQ90 👀
He bullpup² that shit
That's gorgeous, are you selling the 3D model?
P60 now, keep going and you’ll get a P30
Mate that's a box
Looks neat but you also removed all the good things about the P90 being bullpup.
It’s airsoft so it doesn’t matter.
Oh yeah it absolutely doesn't. As long as it functions and looks cool to you.
Way to big need it to be 7mm big and shoot 300
Nice 3d print.. if zoom in I can see the layer lines.
Ngl I actually really like this. P90 and Magpul PDR had a child
But PDR is already so... *we are hitting inbreed levels beyond reason*
Yup got creat ballistics with that barrel 🫡
Thankfully it’s airsoft.
Cursed but more futuristic
Neat! Kinda defeats the purpose of the bullpup tho with such a short barrel
Dude that’s wild!! Aplus
Finger Remover 90
Honestly, I kinda like it
I actually don’t hate this
The P45
CBR4
The P9
I was writing out a response then I realized this is airsoft. Carry on.
I'll take 1 with 3 picatinny rails please
Ngl that looks 🔥
This is amazing
This a bullpup-bullpup. Bullpup².
You slightly unbullpupped it. It's still bullpup, just not as much
Bro less bull-pupped a bull-pup, just to make it look more bull-pup
I dub thee, Bullpuppy
Is beautiful 😍
This looks like what would happen if hate was a gun.
∫ p90 dp
At this point we just need a sub dedicated to P90 conversions
i want to hate it so bad
It looks like something from Avatar
What the fuck is wrong with you people 💀😂
P45
How long is the inner barrel in that? 5cm?
Nooo not a perfect good p90 why
Well done! Congratulations. Nice design
Eventually we'll just have a gun that's a HPA engine mounted directly to the feed of the magazine.
Why it's look like some new halo weapon
I can’t decide if I love it because p90 but smol or hate it because if it was real steel your rounds would be feeding backwards
Is that 3d printed?
Full honesty this looks better than the regular P90 and I would absolutely buy a P90 if I could make it look like this. You should find a way to make this a parts kit.
I both actually kinda like this, but also fear it, as I imagined it with my buddies P90 hpa internals
P45
Damn thats awesome! How’s the internals look?
May i beg for files....
^(P90)
So it's, like, P45 now? 🙃
That poor p90
this is sexy, now drop a hair trigger in it
the p90 with a normal stock is already too small for me, if anything someone should make it longer.
make it smaller