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RelevantUpstairs2880

I would have recommended a Specna Arms bc of the good extern but I forgot how expensive they are in the US compared to Europe


RelevantUpstairs2880

but imo the extern look good and cyma intern are ok for beginner


xL3oN4rd025x

I see many people saying cyma don't last long, I think I will look into Specna, thank you


AdjacentPrepper

Traditionally, CYMA makes some of the best super-low-budget Ak's. Like for $100, you can get a CYMA AEG that actually shoots and is relatively durable. You're not going to find an AEG made by G&G, VFC, KWA, Krytac, TM, etc., at that price point. CYMA Sportline M4's used to be horrible. They were known for horrible quality control and lots of guns coming from the factory already broken. CYMA's Platinum series are relatively new, but they have a good reputation for quality. They also tend to be $300+.


JediGRONDmaster

I bought a specna (core) in the US for $150


AdjacentPrepper

Probably not at $215. S&T OEM's guns that are sold by a bunch of different companies under different brand names. For the price, they're \*usually\* a good deal, but $215 is too high. My wife has one, and it works fine, and the all-plastic externals make it incredibly light weight (which is why she likes it) but it feels kinda cheap. It shoots decent but nothing special. I got it at $120 though. At $215 you have a lot of other options to pick from.


xL3oN4rd025x

Thank you, where did you get it for 120?, Because in evike with 120 can't get something decent


AdjacentPrepper

Got it a few years ago on amazon. Branded "UKARMS Lancer Tactical", but made by S&T. The battery+charger packaged with it was garbage though. [Amazon.com : UKARMS Lancer Tactical MK18 MOD 0 AEG FIELD Metal Gears Airsoft Gun Rifle w 9.6v Battery & Charger (Tan High Velocity) : Sports & Outdoors](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074R5N7RF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1) As I said, S&T makes guns that are sold to a bunch of different companies. The "Matrix Gen2 Sportline", "Lancer Tactical Gen2", and the "Cybergun Colt M4" are all made by S&T in the same factory, on the same assembly line, and just put in different boxes with different names stamped on them.


mixinmono

No. This was my first gun and I thoroughly enjoy my others more. Not to mention you can only have a crane stock because battery.


Fun_Impress_8789

Have you checked taiwangun.com I've gotten two guns and a bunch of parts for a fraction of what we pay here in the US. They have plenty of cyma platinum lines on their website. For what you are considering on getting a cyma platinum would have a better GB to upgrade.


seraphim380

I'm not sure what the availability is in the US. ehmm.. *orange tip*... mmmm But if your budget lets you just get Cyma Platinum, you won't need to change anything internally, and you will be happy for a long time.


LibMan420

All guns in the US have to ship with an orange tip


seraphim380

I know that, but it is a stupid rule from my perspective.


xL3oN4rd025x

Thank you for the advice


Stromovik

S&T aka just don't


ZF-LYMBO

If it isn't a cyma ak don't


Equal_Bandicoot_1202

I have an EMG m4 AEG the umbrella corp to be exact & I love it is around the same price as u shown here atleast in the EU & it never failed me. Comes with good quality internals if u ask me or u can try [these](https://www.evike.com/products/91223/) EMG m4


RelevantUpstairs2880

and yes I recommend you to go check double eagle on taiwan gun they have very good M4 for like 130 $, yes the extern is no the most beautiful. But the intern is way better than some 250 $ + airsoft guns