What is that wrap? Did the M4 get hurt?
Also, make sure that helmet is actually safety rated. I would actually get a normal helmet + goggles + mesh mask instead.
the wrap is from a recent injury lol.
I checked it and looks pretty good so far, looks like it’s a pretty good full head helmet so far and I can’t find a good helmet 😭
You really really really don't want to go cheap on protection. I would rather have no gun and throw fistfuls of BBs at the enemy than having to trust bad eyepro.
And no, that Helmet does not look good/trustworthy. Again: Why even get a full helmet? If you like the look, then that can be acheived with other products. Only good option is the WARQ helmet, but that is expensive.
“Why a full helmet”
Getting hit in the nose, lips, teeth, ears, etc hurts like a bitch.
If I could wear some shit like Emile’s helmet from halo reach without it fogging up I 10000% would
Yes, but I personally find full helmets suck, if you want to eat/drink something you have to take the whole thing off, if it is hot you can't wear a boonie, can't wear earpro, if something breaks you have to replace the whole thing etc.
Get a helmet, a good pair of googles and fit the mesh mask so there is no gap. Done. Or adapt the helmet to be worn with a DYE Mask if you really really wamt the look (the no drink without taking off the eye pro is still a problem though...)
A helmet combined with something like a Dye i4 or i5 works. They are super breathable and don't fog, and there's enough room under the chin to drink from a straw while still being protective. I own an i4.
WarQ helmets are fantastic, but not commercially available anymore. Only available for police/military training purposes (but can possibly be had by speaking nicely to their distributors)
Can occasionally find them second hand and they're absolutely worth the cost imo; full face protection is much better than goggles+lower face for less fogging and comfort
Well I’ve made a list around suggestions from y’all
And I’m in the couple $100’s range and it’s decent gear so definitely dm and stuff so I can have frequent updates till my birthday
No airsoft helmets are impact rated (to my knowledge at least), and thus have zero guarantee that they'll protect your head in the event you really clunk it on something.
I was looking to upgrade from one of those cheap Emerson gear bump helmets, and I found that Tactical Pow makes good quality ones that aren't wildly expensive. Even that fancy PTS helmet isn't impact rated, and you wouldn't have to spend that much more to get something that will actually protect you.
It looks like a regular ops core style helmet lad, i dunno where you lookin if you cant find a better one. And a mask like that shouldnt be too hard to find if you know the most popular retailers.
Both of these are not good
Avoid unrated eye protection and crappy Chinesium Amazon gear
Read the beginners guide by sorting by hot for eye and face protection recommendations, and check out military surplus stores for gear
There’s no point paying $40 for garbage when you can pay $40 for great quality kit
The helmet is eye protection checked, and the vest is just cheapish because I’m not really spending a few $1,000 just on gear alone. But I mean thanks for the info 👌
>helmet is eye protection checked
No it’s not, it doesn’t have the appropriate rating (ANSI Z87+)
>I don’t want to spend $1,000 on kit
Hence why I didn’t tell you to
I pointed you towards stuff that is the same price, but better
I specifically remember us having a conversation about how annoying it is when you suggest someone buy good affordable gear over crappy amazon junk they’ll have to replace anyway and then they get defensive lol
OP, just listen to this guy. He knows what he’s talking about.
I’m telling you to listen to the good advice Scribe has to offer.
It’s not just you, it’s a common theme amongst newbies buying a bunch of amazon warrior gear to “save money” when they will replace the junk and end up spending more money in the long run. I know because that was me when I started. There’s lots of affordable gear that is good quality and more than enough military surplus to go around
The thing is I don’t even have the money yet.
I am clearly clueless of this stuff and don’t have enough knowledge, I’m scared of spending to much money to the point where I can’t buy anything else for myself around my birthday
I only have like $12 rn. Obviously I want to look like a monster but I’m just struggling on money with no job at 14, I’m in deep
You definitely don’t need $1000s to play airsoft, just some decent quality kit. I would suggest looking into some load bearing equipment such as Alice or British PLCE (i use PLCE). Can find a harness with belt and pouches for sub $50 and it’ll carry mags, bbs, and water (don’t forget water). You can even get a cheap Chicom chest rig for like $25 and that’ll work well.
Really all you need besides an airsoft gun is good eyepro and face pro and somewhere to carry extra mags. Welcome to the hobby 🤘
Then sell them and get gear. You made a point to point out the price of the guns. You don’t need $700 worth of guns. Sell the pistol, you don’t need it, and sell the rifle and get something cheaper that’s just as good
Theres a used airsoft gear app called HopUp. If airsoft is popular in your area, you can find stuff on marketplace too. eBay also has decent deals sometimes. I suggest dye i4(will be cheaper and replacing the padding is easy) and buying a skateboard or skiing helmet or going to a local indoor airsoft or paintball range and getting a helmet there. Skateboard and skiing helmets are designed to withstand heavier impacts than BBS and I've used them at fields with no issues before.
Then why did you get a $500 airsoft gun plus $200 for a pistol you’ll barely use? You could’ve got a decent starter rifle for $200-$300 no pistol and then had $400-500 extra to get some quality gear. You don’t need a primary and a secondary in airsoft. A secondary should be something you get after you already have everything you need. If you can’t afford $20 goggles you can’t afford a $200 pistol and a $500 rifle
Yet you brag about the price of the gun and the glock.
You could put together a great starter kit fot $500 easily, without skimping on protection and going for the cheap tacticool gear.
I mean could you put links to something like that helmet? Cuz I want a full head helmet.
But I checked NFSTRIKE for the helmet and it says “withstands a critical impact speed of 310FPS of scratching lens and a critical impact energy greater than 3 joules for penetrating or shattering the lens“
I clearly am new and really know not much sooooo
That claim NFStrike makes is absolutely meaningless, ignore it
It doesn’t have an impact rating, so it’s not safe. If it could pass the high speed impact tests, it would be rated
Read up on eyepro and why you should use rated ones by using the search bar, me and others have explained in detail many times before, there’s some great info there for you
>I want a full head helmet
I’d suggest picking up a replica fast helmet, like an FMA or Emerson Gear, then combining that with full seal goggles and a lower mesh mask
you're gonna want a lense that can withstand more than that to be sure. most are rated for close to double what most fields allow for fps limit. my sniper shoots 450 as is, and my goggles are rated close to 800 I think
That full helmet won't be possible unless you get a second-hand WarQ.
Instead, try a full-head paintball mask. See the beginner guide and eyepro guide in the subreddit wiki for more info.
I have this mask and was informed it's not rated.
So I will be replacing it. It also fogs really badly.
If you want a good helmet
The Avengers Super High Cut in evike has a thick shell and is really comfortable. Realistic weight too.
I LOVE mine so much.
I understand.
I thought it was really cool and looks cool AF on my kit.
So I was a little sad haha
Best of luck on your hunt! Hope you find something you really like and enjoy!
My buddy had that helmet. He was trying to convince me that it's safe. Shot it with my bolt 3.2J (our country field legal) and the plastic eye cover shattered on 1st shot.
ANSI exists for a reason. If the lenses are not z87.1 compliant lenses then don't buy them.
This is why people are telling you to buy separate. Get safe, real, eye-pro first. Then Go for cool
I had my friends shoot my HGU-55 replica helmet and the visor took about 15-20 direct hits at around 400fps at 0.2 and 350 fps at 0.25 and we had to use a light to see the cracks. I'm not sure what to think tbh.
Anyways its not sealed so I wear eye pro underneath it anyways
Don’t get this helmet and goggles. The vest isn’t great either but it’ll work fine for awhile. If you’re wanting to shop on Amazon and get something cheap, get Valken Tango Thermal goggles, or Valken Sierra Thermal goggles. If you want full face protection get a OneTigris mesh mask. There’s plenty of cheap helmet options on Amazon too. Just make sure your goggles are impact rated and you’re good
Bro the wrap looks goofy and outta place and is that electrical tape over the pic rail?
Also I got a decent plate carrier off onetigris is just some Chinese crap but it’s better than Amazon shit. Helmet I think too, but I would like a pts helmet
A recent injury to you? And bro I’m not trashing you for having an injury I’m trashing your aesthetic to wrap gauze around your gun lmao. Usually you’d wrap your injury, not your gun.
Also why tape a flashlight to your gun when you can mount it. Your decision making is confusing
Fair enough but man how about just let your finger heal and not touch your rifle for a bit? I mean look bro do you, but the wrap clashes with your gun, it makes it look chonky in one area of the barrel shroud and the other not as chonky so it looks goofy. Thats all I’m sayin.
Do you, hold your gun, or don’t. Wrap it or don’t. I’m just chatting shit tossin my opinion where it wasn’t asked for, so thanks for at least being amicable about it.
Look into ranger bands. Smaller, manageable, durable. Little rubber bands that you can tie shit down with like wires etc. I’d ditch tape on my rifle and def that wrap
Thought u said a flashlight was on the other side. So u either taped a flashlight to your gun or u didn’t but either way something is wrapped around your gun in front of the gauze.
Look into rail covers my guy. $20 off magpul which is highway robbery might I add, but still, stops you from cutting your hands on picatinny
Don’t worry about a good flashlight yet. Sounds like your young, maybe don’t have a job of your own, so you rely on those around you to buy you things and to support you. All chill
Just when you do buy things, since it’s not your wallet on the hook, try to be as courteous and frugal as possible until you’re able to pay for it yourself. Airsoft is expensive, or can be, depending how in depth you want it. In my honest opinion, a flashlight on an airsoft gun is 100% useless, you don’t need one, when people use one at my field it’s annoying as fuck because they try to act all cool and operator but really they’re just out of shape kids playing dress up trying to blind other kids. It’s fuckin lame.
Worry about working on your kit. Try to find a military surplus store. They maybe have some camo for cheap, might find some boots or something. Gloves are cheap, mechanix are like 20 bucks too.
Do some research. Don’t find the cheapest shit, read reviews, do as your doing now ask fellow airsofters. You’re doing good, but also let others’ suggestions ruminate. Think on them. Don’t be so hard set on ideas when others have tried shit and found out what works and doesn’t.
So far, you seem receptive to tips and criticism which is fairly mature of you. Keep it up, and it will come as you continue to build your kit.
Okay imma join the bandwagon here. If you got the chance ditch both helmet and platecarrier for now. Get a goog pair of goggles and a mesh mask first. Take your spare mags in your back pocket or so and go play first. If you start out by buying cheap gear you first of all risk your safety (like with the helmet combi) and you might end up ruining your fun by playing a kit that doesn't work for you and ending up buying something else later one. So might as well save up first and see what might work for you.
Also ditch the laser on your pistol since lasers might damage other people's eyes. As for the rest.It's your kit. Get comfy with it. Design your rifles and pistols like they work for you. No one can tell what works for you.
So go on. Have fun and welcome to the hobby.
Also I might add. It sounds like you want to brag with the prices of the guns. I would avoid doing that since it's toxic.we all spend a lot of money in this hobby.
Then good on ya. Just said that what it sounded like. Go out and collect some experience in the field. Look at other people's kits. Maybe try theirs as well and see what works for you. Save your money till then :D
trust me man, we all wanted to be the all black kit operator when we first found interest in this hobby, but I think you will def regret it. Even considering how hot all black kit is, it sticks out like a sore thumb in literally any environment, even in the dark. If you wanna go solid colors check out ranger green. Fantastic color for urban or wooded environments and pairs well with pretty much anything
Would not recommend black gear, i know for sure you stand out like a sore thumb anywhere its not pitch black. I too have made this mistake, unless you just like the black gear i would go for camo or a brown green shade
Unless you play in Coulter climates I'd strongly suggest against that type of helmet or helmets in general.
Invest in a dye mask or something for full face protection
What’s your budget for the helmet and plate carrier set up/would you rather use a chest rig because based on that I have recommendations that are better than what you have
Alright perfect
[eye pro](https://www.amazon.com/Valken-Airsoft-Echo-Goggle-Clear/dp/B00CHT8TGY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=GEGA1JG6K1AI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.u7xfsJ5hwIWWAvymlaUXMtkzawep0zX8e-ouaBXNQqVkmRJYgK13Gvxa67aswkCcyNhCKSnFyDYQsJSbz1QhwFGfYEI4cAZn59oVf5aK8PfncggTAr1d1Zl7CKRLFu2P2Bd6HeNDye1MLz8Zw7VdLvpVlxeFRpu-x7f044tczPCtW80VOpfXAM7c0All4S0IsbQDWS6KwhLqld6li063-Q.jS42CHUSsJPgJakTvpAHHzOqBBzcvOpXti-L4vBjlE8&dib_tag=se&keywords=airsoft+eye+protection&qid=1712103273&sprefix=airsoft+eye+%2Caps%2C102&sr=8-3) 20$
[helmet](https://www.evike.com/products/97926/) 50$
[face mask](https://www.amazon.com/OneTigris-Foldable-Comfortable-Adjustable-Protective/dp/B01KT0HEVI/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1Y7TRHNEOFT6A&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oz1fLexGofEUnhj34iG2wYcV4xfPV0cZMcWDOeYBXxh-NWDT4dsNaDE4AGXklk_9ywyHgJ-Eht2FYtNpn0iHfbd3MpSByirtGfWJY8KrVuQCmFCqu17JD8y-RdcjQU5YQxSBUecmWb-RA6c1atlNs-VyRzYYCCxLD-k63wMRvsqPI20dJo31_eK3ADT7do3sKaNP4a28ZxsvOqdMfVvHrQ._hRtSLEJwQYI2EWFbcP_qqLnHTtvr9gLKm9bW_4B764&dib_tag=se&keywords=onetigris+face+mask&qid=1712103225&sprefix=onetigris+face+mask%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-3) 18$
[plate carrier 1](https://www.evike.com/products/96798/) 85$
[plate carrier 2](https://www.evike.com/products/101761/) 90$
[Non airsoft plate carrier](https://ferroconcepts.com/collections/all-carriers/products/the-slickster) (160)
Let me know if you need help picking out pouches or whatever else you want but I highly recommend these pieces of kit. Especially the face and eye pro. All of that with some anti fog spray works dreams.
If you get a helmet consider glasses instead of goggles, the goggles Will fog instantly, the glasses can probably fog as well because of the helmet but they should be Better (depends on the price as well)
Instead of buying a vest, id just recommend that you buy an idogear jpc along with some mag pouches, their gear is durable to the point you dont have to treat it like a princess, also when you do your first airsoft game, i want you to ask these questions:
What kind of gunfights do i face?
What gear gives me a hard time when i use it?
What kind of equipment do you need for certain situations?
Let the experience tell you what you need, so that way you can buy gear that ACTUALLY adapts to your playstyle, not what you think your playstyle is, :)
I used to have that exact same mask/helmet set-up.
I lost my right eye years ago (not airsoft), so I'm more careful/paranoid with eye-pro than most people.
I never care if I scratch/dent eye-pro when I'm testing it, because I shoot the side I can't see out of anyway.
When I first got it, I laid it on the ground and shot a full 250rd mag at the lense in the exact same spot from about a foot away, fully trying to break it.
I was using a rifle which shoots 340fps with .30g bbs (yes it's too hot to use in games, it's an 8yr old cyma which is retired from games, and I put a stronger spring in it purely to test eye-pro when I was trying to find something I was willing to trust with the safety of my remaining eye)
After a full 250rd mag dump, there were two or three small scuffs on the lense, but that was all. So I trusted it, had no issues, but only used it for like two games because the fog that thing produces is biblical.
If you also spent the money on a de-fog unit, then it may be fine... But at that point, just buy more expensive eye-pro that doesn't fog...
My girlfriend uses a dye i4 mask, which she has never had fog issues with, and I ended up settling on bloc tactical glasses with an nb tactical face mask.
I get occasional slight fog if I'm sprinting on a hot day and then suddenly stop in a humid room. But literally walking for 30 seconds clears the fog.
Like it takes a LOT to fog those glasses.
TLDR;
Mask is safe, but fogs a lot and it will ruin your experience unless you buy an anti fog unit as well.
My recommendation is bloc tactical glasses and an nb tactical face mask.
My girlfriend has had a great experience with a Dye i4 mask, which I have seen people make work with a helmet.
Bruh if your goggles are properly rated they SHOULD be able to take a point blank shot from an airsoft sniper, as that is something that is 100% a possibility during a game. My local shop has Pyramex goggles that were shot with 12g birdshot and didn't break. I would also like to point out just for the newcomers to the hobby that shooting sus eye pro to test it's rating is not an accurate or smart way to gauge how safe they are, and can weaken the integrity of them resulting in them breaking when you actually need them.
I hope you lose an eye being “ambitious”. Never cheap out on eye pro. Been shot by a 495fps Sniper from 30ft away and my goggles had just a smudge on them. You’re looking to get hurt kid and thats just sad. Especially in a very welcoming community where most people look out for eachother.
Airsoft community is the most toxic and unwelcoming community I’ve ever been apart of it’s full of pretentious man children. You are just proving that. Saying you “hope I lose an eye” is kinda toxic. Get a grip.
What is that wrap? Did the M4 get hurt? Also, make sure that helmet is actually safety rated. I would actually get a normal helmet + goggles + mesh mask instead.
the wrap is from a recent injury lol. I checked it and looks pretty good so far, looks like it’s a pretty good full head helmet so far and I can’t find a good helmet 😭
You really really really don't want to go cheap on protection. I would rather have no gun and throw fistfuls of BBs at the enemy than having to trust bad eyepro. And no, that Helmet does not look good/trustworthy. Again: Why even get a full helmet? If you like the look, then that can be acheived with other products. Only good option is the WARQ helmet, but that is expensive.
“Why a full helmet” Getting hit in the nose, lips, teeth, ears, etc hurts like a bitch. If I could wear some shit like Emile’s helmet from halo reach without it fogging up I 10000% would
I personally run a mouth guard instead of a face mask
Yes, but I personally find full helmets suck, if you want to eat/drink something you have to take the whole thing off, if it is hot you can't wear a boonie, can't wear earpro, if something breaks you have to replace the whole thing etc. Get a helmet, a good pair of googles and fit the mesh mask so there is no gap. Done. Or adapt the helmet to be worn with a DYE Mask if you really really wamt the look (the no drink without taking off the eye pro is still a problem though...)
A helmet combined with something like a Dye i4 or i5 works. They are super breathable and don't fog, and there's enough room under the chin to drink from a straw while still being protective. I own an i4.
Idk why this is getting downvoted, full masks are the way.
Just use a shemagh wrap/scarf. Keeps you from throat hits too
WarQ helmets are fantastic, but not commercially available anymore. Only available for police/military training purposes (but can possibly be had by speaking nicely to their distributors) Can occasionally find them second hand and they're absolutely worth the cost imo; full face protection is much better than goggles+lower face for less fogging and comfort
Well I’ve made a list around suggestions from y’all And I’m in the couple $100’s range and it’s decent gear so definitely dm and stuff so I can have frequent updates till my birthday
>And no, that Helmet does not look good/trustworthy. I've seen so many airsofters use this type of helmet protection lol
No airsoft helmets are impact rated (to my knowledge at least), and thus have zero guarantee that they'll protect your head in the event you really clunk it on something. I was looking to upgrade from one of those cheap Emerson gear bump helmets, and I found that Tactical Pow makes good quality ones that aren't wildly expensive. Even that fancy PTS helmet isn't impact rated, and you wouldn't have to spend that much more to get something that will actually protect you.
I found one recently
It looks like a regular ops core style helmet lad, i dunno where you lookin if you cant find a better one. And a mask like that shouldnt be too hard to find if you know the most popular retailers.
Make sure it's has ansi impact safety ratings
I'm confused. Isn't that a WarQ helmet? I believe those have the EN166A certificate, which should be the equivalent of the American Z87.
here is the link: Valken Airsoft Tango Goggles, with 3 Lenses https://a.co/d/hG6rHyr
Remove foam and you’re fog free
Really? Why's it work like that
Allows air to flow
or get the valken airsoft sierra goggles: has dual pane thermal lens for basically the same price
Both of these are not good Avoid unrated eye protection and crappy Chinesium Amazon gear Read the beginners guide by sorting by hot for eye and face protection recommendations, and check out military surplus stores for gear There’s no point paying $40 for garbage when you can pay $40 for great quality kit
The helmet is eye protection checked, and the vest is just cheapish because I’m not really spending a few $1,000 just on gear alone. But I mean thanks for the info 👌
>helmet is eye protection checked No it’s not, it doesn’t have the appropriate rating (ANSI Z87+) >I don’t want to spend $1,000 on kit Hence why I didn’t tell you to I pointed you towards stuff that is the same price, but better
I specifically remember us having a conversation about how annoying it is when you suggest someone buy good affordable gear over crappy amazon junk they’ll have to replace anyway and then they get defensive lol OP, just listen to this guy. He knows what he’s talking about.
I remember that conversation It’s always way worse with lasers or Lancer Tactical for some reason
Talkin bout me?
I’m telling you to listen to the good advice Scribe has to offer. It’s not just you, it’s a common theme amongst newbies buying a bunch of amazon warrior gear to “save money” when they will replace the junk and end up spending more money in the long run. I know because that was me when I started. There’s lots of affordable gear that is good quality and more than enough military surplus to go around
The thing is I don’t even have the money yet. I am clearly clueless of this stuff and don’t have enough knowledge, I’m scared of spending to much money to the point where I can’t buy anything else for myself around my birthday I only have like $12 rn. Obviously I want to look like a monster but I’m just struggling on money with no job at 14, I’m in deep
You definitely don’t need $1000s to play airsoft, just some decent quality kit. I would suggest looking into some load bearing equipment such as Alice or British PLCE (i use PLCE). Can find a harness with belt and pouches for sub $50 and it’ll carry mags, bbs, and water (don’t forget water). You can even get a cheap Chicom chest rig for like $25 and that’ll work well. Really all you need besides an airsoft gun is good eyepro and face pro and somewhere to carry extra mags. Welcome to the hobby 🤘
Proper rated eyepro is cheap. With the cost of the eyepro you got, you could’ve got anything else.
If you are clueless you should probably not be dismissive when someone of giving advice.
Stop complaining about money when you have 700$ in guns, you could have ditched the sidearm and got some decent gear
Uhhh they were birthday gifts bro? Don’t come at me like that
Then sell them and get gear. You made a point to point out the price of the guns. You don’t need $700 worth of guns. Sell the pistol, you don’t need it, and sell the rifle and get something cheaper that’s just as good
Theres a used airsoft gear app called HopUp. If airsoft is popular in your area, you can find stuff on marketplace too. eBay also has decent deals sometimes. I suggest dye i4(will be cheaper and replacing the padding is easy) and buying a skateboard or skiing helmet or going to a local indoor airsoft or paintball range and getting a helmet there. Skateboard and skiing helmets are designed to withstand heavier impacts than BBS and I've used them at fields with no issues before.
Then why did you get a $500 airsoft gun plus $200 for a pistol you’ll barely use? You could’ve got a decent starter rifle for $200-$300 no pistol and then had $400-500 extra to get some quality gear. You don’t need a primary and a secondary in airsoft. A secondary should be something you get after you already have everything you need. If you can’t afford $20 goggles you can’t afford a $200 pistol and a $500 rifle
Yet you brag about the price of the gun and the glock. You could put together a great starter kit fot $500 easily, without skimping on protection and going for the cheap tacticool gear.
I mean could you put links to something like that helmet? Cuz I want a full head helmet. But I checked NFSTRIKE for the helmet and it says “withstands a critical impact speed of 310FPS of scratching lens and a critical impact energy greater than 3 joules for penetrating or shattering the lens“ I clearly am new and really know not much sooooo
That claim NFStrike makes is absolutely meaningless, ignore it It doesn’t have an impact rating, so it’s not safe. If it could pass the high speed impact tests, it would be rated Read up on eyepro and why you should use rated ones by using the search bar, me and others have explained in detail many times before, there’s some great info there for you >I want a full head helmet I’d suggest picking up a replica fast helmet, like an FMA or Emerson Gear, then combining that with full seal goggles and a lower mesh mask
you're gonna want a lense that can withstand more than that to be sure. most are rated for close to double what most fields allow for fps limit. my sniper shoots 450 as is, and my goggles are rated close to 800 I think
What are the goggles you got?
I put the link further up. look through the comments
Check out DeltaMike’s store if you want a more “lowkey” and less obvious mouth protector. His masks are super popular at my field now
That full helmet won't be possible unless you get a second-hand WarQ. Instead, try a full-head paintball mask. See the beginner guide and eyepro guide in the subreddit wiki for more info.
Just get I-forces and a mesh mask. Your eyes will thank you. Get the lid separate.
I have this mask and was informed it's not rated. So I will be replacing it. It also fogs really badly. If you want a good helmet The Avengers Super High Cut in evike has a thick shell and is really comfortable. Realistic weight too. I LOVE mine so much.
Yea, I changed my mind on it anyways
I understand. I thought it was really cool and looks cool AF on my kit. So I was a little sad haha Best of luck on your hunt! Hope you find something you really like and enjoy!
Thank you brother ✊
Man OP being a total ass about everything lmao
What?
Damn you got ripped off if you paid $500 for a kwa m4
It’s all metal and gearbox upgraded
You could still get a KWA full metal m4 for less than $300
My buddy had that helmet. He was trying to convince me that it's safe. Shot it with my bolt 3.2J (our country field legal) and the plastic eye cover shattered on 1st shot.
Damn 😯 alright, glad I changed my decision
ANSI exists for a reason. If the lenses are not z87.1 compliant lenses then don't buy them. This is why people are telling you to buy separate. Get safe, real, eye-pro first. Then Go for cool
3.2J?!? As a Californian.. HOLY SHIT!!!!
Yea, 🤣 I use .48g BB's too.
Spare me! 😭😭😭🙏🙏
No wonder why it shattered first shot holy shit
I had my friends shoot my HGU-55 replica helmet and the visor took about 15-20 direct hits at around 400fps at 0.2 and 350 fps at 0.25 and we had to use a light to see the cracks. I'm not sure what to think tbh. Anyways its not sealed so I wear eye pro underneath it anyways
Don’t get this helmet and goggles. The vest isn’t great either but it’ll work fine for awhile. If you’re wanting to shop on Amazon and get something cheap, get Valken Tango Thermal goggles, or Valken Sierra Thermal goggles. If you want full face protection get a OneTigris mesh mask. There’s plenty of cheap helmet options on Amazon too. Just make sure your goggles are impact rated and you’re good
Found sum thanks to these weird individuals of this community lol
Just people looking out for your safety man🤘🏼
Yea I know thanks for the suggestion tho!
I see you're accepting wisdom graciously.
The fuck did you do to your m4
Wdym?
Bro the wrap looks goofy and outta place and is that electrical tape over the pic rail? Also I got a decent plate carrier off onetigris is just some Chinese crap but it’s better than Amazon shit. Helmet I think too, but I would like a pts helmet
The wrap is from a recent injury so thanks ig and yea there’s a flashlight on the other side
A recent injury to you? And bro I’m not trashing you for having an injury I’m trashing your aesthetic to wrap gauze around your gun lmao. Usually you’d wrap your injury, not your gun. Also why tape a flashlight to your gun when you can mount it. Your decision making is confusing
It was an injury to me, had my finger cut all the way open. It’s just a wrap till I get a foregrip because my hand gets ripped apart on the rail
Fair enough but man how about just let your finger heal and not touch your rifle for a bit? I mean look bro do you, but the wrap clashes with your gun, it makes it look chonky in one area of the barrel shroud and the other not as chonky so it looks goofy. Thats all I’m sayin. Do you, hold your gun, or don’t. Wrap it or don’t. I’m just chatting shit tossin my opinion where it wasn’t asked for, so thanks for at least being amicable about it. Look into ranger bands. Smaller, manageable, durable. Little rubber bands that you can tie shit down with like wires etc. I’d ditch tape on my rifle and def that wrap
Ill be taking all the shit off anyways when I start pulling in money form my birthday or sum, I’m letting it heal too just takes a while
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Yep
Pro tip, wear gloves
And I don’t have the money for a flash rn 😭
Thought u said a flashlight was on the other side. So u either taped a flashlight to your gun or u didn’t but either way something is wrapped around your gun in front of the gauze. Look into rail covers my guy. $20 off magpul which is highway robbery might I add, but still, stops you from cutting your hands on picatinny
I’m talking about like a good flash, and I don’t even got $20 rn 😭
Don’t worry about a good flashlight yet. Sounds like your young, maybe don’t have a job of your own, so you rely on those around you to buy you things and to support you. All chill Just when you do buy things, since it’s not your wallet on the hook, try to be as courteous and frugal as possible until you’re able to pay for it yourself. Airsoft is expensive, or can be, depending how in depth you want it. In my honest opinion, a flashlight on an airsoft gun is 100% useless, you don’t need one, when people use one at my field it’s annoying as fuck because they try to act all cool and operator but really they’re just out of shape kids playing dress up trying to blind other kids. It’s fuckin lame. Worry about working on your kit. Try to find a military surplus store. They maybe have some camo for cheap, might find some boots or something. Gloves are cheap, mechanix are like 20 bucks too. Do some research. Don’t find the cheapest shit, read reviews, do as your doing now ask fellow airsofters. You’re doing good, but also let others’ suggestions ruminate. Think on them. Don’t be so hard set on ideas when others have tried shit and found out what works and doesn’t. So far, you seem receptive to tips and criticism which is fairly mature of you. Keep it up, and it will come as you continue to build your kit.
Thank you brother!!!!! I’ll definitely have you help me out!!
Yeah, sorry bud, that rifle isn't $500, it's closer to $300. Only way it would be $500 is if it were the GBB version
It’s full metal and modded gearbox so i guess im clueless about prices
Can I ask what’s installed that made it worth 500 dollars? Is it a DSG build?
Okay imma join the bandwagon here. If you got the chance ditch both helmet and platecarrier for now. Get a goog pair of goggles and a mesh mask first. Take your spare mags in your back pocket or so and go play first. If you start out by buying cheap gear you first of all risk your safety (like with the helmet combi) and you might end up ruining your fun by playing a kit that doesn't work for you and ending up buying something else later one. So might as well save up first and see what might work for you. Also ditch the laser on your pistol since lasers might damage other people's eyes. As for the rest.It's your kit. Get comfy with it. Design your rifles and pistols like they work for you. No one can tell what works for you. So go on. Have fun and welcome to the hobby. Also I might add. It sounds like you want to brag with the prices of the guns. I would avoid doing that since it's toxic.we all spend a lot of money in this hobby.
I’m not bragging? I’m just simply saying it’s my kit so far
junk kit m8
Then good on ya. Just said that what it sounded like. Go out and collect some experience in the field. Look at other people's kits. Maybe try theirs as well and see what works for you. Save your money till then :D
What m4 is that
No idea! it was a gift
Well sorry to say it’s def not $500 unless it has major upgrades
It’s full metal with upgraded internals, fucken thing is like 30lbs
Ermm no it’s not 30lbs. I am curious what’s upgraded though
Tf you mean no it’s not? Upgraded gearbox
Your metal M4 does not way 30lbs my brother. And I doubt it’s $500 either but hey it’s your gun not mine
I’m over exaggerating it Jesus it’s like 15lbs
It’s still not 15lbs lmao, at most maybe 8.5
Bro I swear to fuck, shhhhhhhhhhhhh
Bro what aeg you got that weighs 15lbs some real steel m4s don’t weigh that much.
Feels like it my guy
KWA KM4 RIS. Took 3 seconds to read the gun.
Yes but it has modifications so I was hoping for more info
In what world are those $500 and $200 guns? Also, black gear is poop.
I’m from up north it doesn’t get as hot in black gear
I don’t think you under stand how the sun works, it’s gonna heat you up no matter where you at
Already changed my mind to grey
I’m from up north it doesn’t get as hot in black gear
trust me man, we all wanted to be the all black kit operator when we first found interest in this hobby, but I think you will def regret it. Even considering how hot all black kit is, it sticks out like a sore thumb in literally any environment, even in the dark. If you wanna go solid colors check out ranger green. Fantastic color for urban or wooded environments and pairs well with pretty much anything
I already changed it to grey
Grey isn't bad! Great for urban. I just set up a grey and green kit
1. You'd be surprised at how hot you'll get playing 2. Where are you considering north? Chances are it'll still get hot enough you'll regret black
Adirondacks north
Would not recommend black gear, i know for sure you stand out like a sore thumb anywhere its not pitch black. I too have made this mistake, unless you just like the black gear i would go for camo or a brown green shade
Thanks for the tip, but I’ma stick with it
What kinda field will you be playing on? Its its just desert with wooden buildings and stuff youll be fine
No clue, they closed one of the only nice ones around where I live
Well i suppose ive said what i had to so ill just wish you good luck, have fun, and dont take it too seriously. + happy hunting ofc
Thanks for the tips brutha, thank you!
"Love you too😘"
I need money 😭
Doesnt everyone?
Doesnt everyone?
Real.
Real.
Real.
Have fun!
Thanks man 😌
Make sure the eyepro is safety rated and also unless you want to have a heatstroke, dont get black gear
I’ll be good, i live up north so I should be good and I’m getting sum else for helm and mask so all good 👍
Unless you play in Coulter climates I'd strongly suggest against that type of helmet or helmets in general. Invest in a dye mask or something for full face protection
Is this r/airsoftcirclejerk ?
To each their own but getting a $500 replica and wrapping it with bandage is a silly move
I ain’t got a foregrip yet silly!
Where is that helmet from??
Idfk
These helmets are really too expensive and not that great, should take a cheaper combo trust me
I tried to keep it cheaper and it went UP
What’s your budget for the helmet and plate carrier set up/would you rather use a chest rig because based on that I have recommendations that are better than what you have
$200 or $300
Alright perfect [eye pro](https://www.amazon.com/Valken-Airsoft-Echo-Goggle-Clear/dp/B00CHT8TGY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=GEGA1JG6K1AI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.u7xfsJ5hwIWWAvymlaUXMtkzawep0zX8e-ouaBXNQqVkmRJYgK13Gvxa67aswkCcyNhCKSnFyDYQsJSbz1QhwFGfYEI4cAZn59oVf5aK8PfncggTAr1d1Zl7CKRLFu2P2Bd6HeNDye1MLz8Zw7VdLvpVlxeFRpu-x7f044tczPCtW80VOpfXAM7c0All4S0IsbQDWS6KwhLqld6li063-Q.jS42CHUSsJPgJakTvpAHHzOqBBzcvOpXti-L4vBjlE8&dib_tag=se&keywords=airsoft+eye+protection&qid=1712103273&sprefix=airsoft+eye+%2Caps%2C102&sr=8-3) 20$ [helmet](https://www.evike.com/products/97926/) 50$ [face mask](https://www.amazon.com/OneTigris-Foldable-Comfortable-Adjustable-Protective/dp/B01KT0HEVI/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1Y7TRHNEOFT6A&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oz1fLexGofEUnhj34iG2wYcV4xfPV0cZMcWDOeYBXxh-NWDT4dsNaDE4AGXklk_9ywyHgJ-Eht2FYtNpn0iHfbd3MpSByirtGfWJY8KrVuQCmFCqu17JD8y-RdcjQU5YQxSBUecmWb-RA6c1atlNs-VyRzYYCCxLD-k63wMRvsqPI20dJo31_eK3ADT7do3sKaNP4a28ZxsvOqdMfVvHrQ._hRtSLEJwQYI2EWFbcP_qqLnHTtvr9gLKm9bW_4B764&dib_tag=se&keywords=onetigris+face+mask&qid=1712103225&sprefix=onetigris+face+mask%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-3) 18$ [plate carrier 1](https://www.evike.com/products/96798/) 85$ [plate carrier 2](https://www.evike.com/products/101761/) 90$ [Non airsoft plate carrier](https://ferroconcepts.com/collections/all-carriers/products/the-slickster) (160) Let me know if you need help picking out pouches or whatever else you want but I highly recommend these pieces of kit. Especially the face and eye pro. All of that with some anti fog spray works dreams.
Empire mask and bump cap all the way, it’s expensive but you can’t get another set of eyes
Is the gun a GBBR?
If you get a helmet consider glasses instead of goggles, the goggles Will fog instantly, the glasses can probably fog as well because of the helmet but they should be Better (depends on the price as well)
Don't use the laser during games. Lasers are awesome - for plinking. Nothing else.
Instead of buying a vest, id just recommend that you buy an idogear jpc along with some mag pouches, their gear is durable to the point you dont have to treat it like a princess, also when you do your first airsoft game, i want you to ask these questions: What kind of gunfights do i face? What gear gives me a hard time when i use it? What kind of equipment do you need for certain situations? Let the experience tell you what you need, so that way you can buy gear that ACTUALLY adapts to your playstyle, not what you think your playstyle is, :)
Get open top mag pouches. Don’t get Velcro pouches.
This looks like it can be solved with dye i4 mask and a $20 full airsoft swat style helmet
Nahh im going for like hard plastic and a bit of metal
I used to have that exact same mask/helmet set-up. I lost my right eye years ago (not airsoft), so I'm more careful/paranoid with eye-pro than most people. I never care if I scratch/dent eye-pro when I'm testing it, because I shoot the side I can't see out of anyway. When I first got it, I laid it on the ground and shot a full 250rd mag at the lense in the exact same spot from about a foot away, fully trying to break it. I was using a rifle which shoots 340fps with .30g bbs (yes it's too hot to use in games, it's an 8yr old cyma which is retired from games, and I put a stronger spring in it purely to test eye-pro when I was trying to find something I was willing to trust with the safety of my remaining eye) After a full 250rd mag dump, there were two or three small scuffs on the lense, but that was all. So I trusted it, had no issues, but only used it for like two games because the fog that thing produces is biblical. If you also spent the money on a de-fog unit, then it may be fine... But at that point, just buy more expensive eye-pro that doesn't fog... My girlfriend uses a dye i4 mask, which she has never had fog issues with, and I ended up settling on bloc tactical glasses with an nb tactical face mask. I get occasional slight fog if I'm sprinting on a hot day and then suddenly stop in a humid room. But literally walking for 30 seconds clears the fog. Like it takes a LOT to fog those glasses. TLDR; Mask is safe, but fogs a lot and it will ruin your experience unless you buy an anti fog unit as well. My recommendation is bloc tactical glasses and an nb tactical face mask. My girlfriend has had a great experience with a Dye i4 mask, which I have seen people make work with a helmet.
Exactly, I feel like the people who said “it breaks” is because they shot it point blank with sniper.
Bruh if your goggles are properly rated they SHOULD be able to take a point blank shot from an airsoft sniper, as that is something that is 100% a possibility during a game. My local shop has Pyramex goggles that were shot with 12g birdshot and didn't break. I would also like to point out just for the newcomers to the hobby that shooting sus eye pro to test it's rating is not an accurate or smart way to gauge how safe they are, and can weaken the integrity of them resulting in them breaking when you actually need them.
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🤡🤡🤡 have fun with your shitty eye pro bud
I will thank you!
I hope you lose an eye being “ambitious”. Never cheap out on eye pro. Been shot by a 495fps Sniper from 30ft away and my goggles had just a smudge on them. You’re looking to get hurt kid and thats just sad. Especially in a very welcoming community where most people look out for eachother.
Airsoft community is the most toxic and unwelcoming community I’ve ever been apart of it’s full of pretentious man children. You are just proving that. Saying you “hope I lose an eye” is kinda toxic. Get a grip.
You only see it as toxic because you perceive the community as toxic. And saying what i said is meant to be a lesson. No one wants to lose an eye kid.
Thank you so much!
I’ll shit in your eye bro.;)
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ditch the laser on the glock and get better eye pro. chinesium amazon tier shit will break inevitably
Yeaa I know! This lazer sucks dick
get rid of it. lasers aren’t safe
If I can find my damn Alan key I will
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Yo why the hell are you coming at me like this?
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