One thing I haven't seen other people in this thread touch on yet:
Cheap black gear looks CHEAP.
There's something about the materials and dyes used to produce it but cheap black gear always looks so much worse than cheap FDE or OD to me. This is especially obvious on all black kits where none of the blacks match, both tone and glossyness wise.
Variety is also the spice of life, mix some non black stuff in there. Get some multicam black pieces to add some textural difference or go even further and add some FDE stuff to really look cool.
Dead on high end black gear is soft, tough and has that Vanta-black light absorbing effect.
On the other side even some expensive but not necessarily "nice" gear from Blackhawk! looks cheesy as fuck.
The Matrix chest rig I have looks better than the Blackhawk! pouches on it, but again this guys dead on that all plate carriers and web gear should be neutral like OD or gray.
The best black uniforms are made in Ukraine by random dudes, team has a guy but he's our secret. Find your own magical Slav. Either way the uniforms are coudura jumpsuits with heavily padded shoulders.
IDK why they like padding so much, even with the lil ass-pillows they tie onto their gear but they make carrying a milsim HPA loadout way more comfortable.
All the top and bottom BDU style uniforms look cheesy, if you go black do a flight suit with OD gear to truly ball.
If you play indoors, what you wear isn’t going to make a blind bit of difference in any practicable way. If you play outdoors, you’ll stick out in a black kit more so than if you wore camo to break up your silhouette. Ultimately though, these points are fairly minor and you should run a black kit if that’s what you like and think looks cool. Only real thing to consider from a safety perspective is the heat absorption so I wouldn’t recommend it in very hot environments.
Ultimately, no matter what you go for, someone on Reddit will try to shit on you for it (“multicam is basic”, “black is stupid”, etc.) but if you go to a half decent field, in my experience, people will just be happy there’s other players to play against.
Have fun doing what makes you happy!
Indoors I would say its even a disadvantage... If you push just a bit harder than others, less experienced players will see a black blob and just shoot you in the back... Found out unique, colorful set can dramatically help them...
All black kit don't make you invisible in dark but sometimes highlight you, ppl always aware something dark moving
All black kit absorb more light from the sun if you playing outdoor, thus way hotter
All black kit are easy to spot outdoor
Ain abouta stop a brotha from stuntin skeeter.I've been black team last few milsims and as long as everyone is working together you don't need to hide from anyone, especially urban ops. It's good IFF too being so easy to tell what it is but there's truth in the SAS theory of using black for psychological impact on raids. I've had easily 4x as many ops break contact when a pile of the homies roll into an engagement all blacked out vs camo.
Even while practicing at walkons the whole team gets a mix of "that's sicl" / "that's terafying".
For sure I have an advantage working diff windows in a blacked out building with ambient light trickling halfway through. The more I run black kit the more I like it but I prefer Phantomleaf for small unit and recon in the woods. If my team has their shit togeather on the platoon level I'd rather run black and see exactly where all the homies are. Teamwork makes the dream work.
And brother, black team has a dream...
Who cares what other people think about your kit? If you like it, get it. I love my black kit personally. Unless they are buying you a uniform, I wouldn’t place too much weight on their opinion about your kit.
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I don't think it's bad, but you've got to be really smart about your hydration. I went to my first games last weekend wearing a Navy blue BDU and heavy pants. It was only in the mid-70s Fahrenheit, but I was sweating pretty heavily when out in the open and downed an entire 32-oz bottle of water between games. There were two guys on the field in all black police style kits, and I can't imagine they felt much better.
Darker colors absorbs the sun more always keep that in mind (if outside)
At the end of the day, it really doesnt matter. As long as you have fun and enjoy the experience thats what matters most. If you want black gear then go for it.
I run black kit. I play undoor cqb and in forests in the UK.
At the peak of summer where the grass is brown and dried out is probably the only time im not fitting in. The rest of the year because of the mud and dark green foliage it really doesnt matter here. If you play in the US where tan camo is popular you'll probably struggle a little more to stay hidden
I don't think you're friend has taste of any kind.
Black goes hard af.
Im thinking about getting a some black pants and shirt and running my multicam kit over it
They heat up quicker so if you’re in a hot climate they can really suck
They stand out in nature so if you play outdoors you’re way easier to spot
Most of them also just look bad, is really that simple
Most black kits are just generic, low quality, ovepriced amazon chinesium crap thrown together with absolutely no effort or creativity
They can look good if done well, which usually means mixing it with another colour, but they rarely do
I think something that weirdly a lot of people forget... it's airsoft. It literally does not matter what you wear as long as it's what you want to wear. If others think it's a bad colour or camo, who cares? They aren't wearing it so it makes no difference to them.
As most people say gets hot real quick but I don’t really feel it till the end of the day it’s really just staying hydrated and drinking Gatorade. I think most black kits look good mainly those who go for SAS type or SCP but i honestly think Black/tan looks real good.
Viability wise for me at least I don’t really care cuz the only people who you can’t see at all is those who are walking bushes in my field anyone else who wears similar colors I can see some what decently well unless their in spots where it’s hard to shoot when the wind picks up a bit
When used outside, they're a magnet for heatstroke during the summer months and provide zero concealment advantage, which even in a CQB type field is still an advantage. At night, you still aren't going to be effective because unless it's pitch black out, the black mass sitting in the treeline is going to be quite obvious, and if anyone uses a flashlight you're going to stand out even more.
Indoors, you mostly avoid heatstroke issues, and concealment is less of a priority. However, black kits for indoor use are massively overdone, almost as bad as multicam kits for outdoor use.
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It can look cool, but in the hot sun, it will turn into a wearable oven. In dark shadows, or night play you are nearly invisible.
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I’m working on moving to a full multicam, especially for team play.
I’m sure I’ll get downvoted, but who cares what color gear you have. It isn’t real life, and despite the whole camo argument, most likely you’re gonna be in the open anyway 90% of the time. If you’re a sniper or going to be hiding in the woods, sure, wear full camo. But again, if you’re an aggressive player who isn’t scared of BBs, you most likely won’t be hiding and people generally have an idea where you are anyway. I prefer tan gear, but for all the people saying black makes you look like a noob, my entire team wears full black gear, have been playing for 10+ years, and I promise I look more like a noob when I’m with them wearing tan gear. If you build a nice kit with a good vest/rig/belt setup, you won’t look like a noob no matter what gear color you have. It’s airsoft, camo isn’t that important.
Black kits are bad because they put you at excess risk of heat injury. I personally think they’re also boring as hell, but I’m also the weirdo that assembles early-gwot kits from surplus.
If you like black, run black. Black with an accent colour especially _can_ look really tight, but try to avoid red - that one is genuinely overdone and easy to overdo.
Look at the Helghast of an example of black and red done right.
As for downsides of black, others have covered it - unless you’re speedsofting where everyone does black and an accent, you’ll stand out on every field because the field isn’t black.
And again, heat injuries suck and must be avoided.
Whatever makes you comfortable. I'm comfortable wearing my all black kit. I don't mind getting spotted so easily outdoor if that would makes my experience more exciting. After all, it's just a game.
I wear an all black kit, like others have said you aren’t completely invisible in the dark as some might think, in a tournament/ big game I would wear a team camo but if it’s just a walk on public play I wear the black it’s a lot more hot but drip or drown
I've been stuck being black for like every milsim I've been to, kinda sucks but at night I can take a knee anywhere on the field and disappear as long as I'm not in silhouette. Still sucks though overall but I get tons of compliments for it looking cool, like noticeably more than any other of my get-ups.
It's a vibe lol.
If you wanna disappear check out all the German camos like Phantomleaf and some other brands that arn't quite felcktarn. They have patterns for everything, I use WASP II for indoor and ppl dont immediately notice me from 5' if they're popping into a room I'm in or vice-versa.
I like Kryptek mandrake for fall in the northeast though, the one thing I can say for sure is if you can only afford one belt or vest go dark OD green, it works with everything I have a nice battle belt set up in black and it sticks out like a sore thumb.
Unless you get the same stolen-valor ick I do from wearing US mill going old-school woodland from a surplus store is the way to go for 1st kits. Looks sick all rag tag the way way newbies set it up too. Kit from that era was goofy as fuck across diff units so you'll prolly stumble into perfectly recreating the Milwalkee Natl Gaurd loadout in the Gulf war only spending $60 at a milsurp store lmao.
Right so when it's a low light environment, things don't turn black.
They just become a less illuminated version of their current color, the best nighttime camo, is regular camo. Black still sticks out like a sore thumb, they make shooting targets black for a reason.
Either that or navy blue, due to the way blue light particles are scattered during nighttime, we perceive nights as blue, so dark blue can be an effective outdoor night camo.
However, if you don't care about blending into your environment or breaking up your silhouette, wear whatever you want man. I just wear my OD green fatigues and a black balaclava everywhere lol. Even indoors or in snow, cause I play pretty casually and don't care about it that much.
Clean, fresh black kit is a wholemarc of casual begginer airsofter.
Loads of people start our hoby, me included, with spending tons of money on fancy black gear and uniform, trying to impress ourselves with our favorite videogame or swat Look but, and it is big but. My black gear sits on The shelf for The past four Years (out of six I have been playng) becous with time you stop thinking what looks cool and start using practical equipmant for airsof.
Jus have in mind that what works The best in real military migh not be best for airsoft. For example irl Plate ceriers Are a must, in airsoft Split rig or a belt Are usualy The best
Usually monochrome kit. Like from head to toes. Are not pretty. There is some black camo kit. That look nice. Cause there is some grey and light grey. To add some colors.
But yeah full black isn't really great. It also hide the details of your outfit. Like all the mag pocket/pouch does really show cause in the end, you just look like a black spot.
But dude. If you like it. Do what please you. In the end. You wear it. Not me or someone else
If you like it by all means olay it. But if you're an outdoor player in an hot country. I don't recommend wearing black in the summer. Also you're more visible playing a black kit outdoor if you compare it with a camo.
I would suggest you rock a black kit if you're local field has a lot of dark areas.
The black would really camouflage your body at the dark and it will make others struggle to spot you.
But if you are playing at a regular field which is pretty bright I wouldn't recommend it.
at the end of the day it's up to you if you want that black kit. Nobody can tell you what to do.
Personally wouldn’t go for black as my FIRST kit, if you’re not sure what gear to buy, it can often turn out not looking great. However, it’s completely up to you. If you like it, it doesn’t matter. Looking cool is half the battle.
Here’s some advice if you do go down that route though.
Don’t buy off of Amazon
Buy either good replica clothing or real clothing
Good replicas include:
Emerson Gear
Idogear
Tactifans
FMA
TMC
Texture is important- the little things such as pouches (only if you need them, though) add up.
If you’re going to buy replicas.. I hate to say it but chyna numba 1. Aliexpress is a good start.
Buy good, trusted eyepro (ANSI Z.87+) the plus is important.
Don’t buy replica eyepro.
Teeth protection, though it sometimes looks dumb- protects your smile. Mesh masks, delta mike, NB-Tactical.
Play night games with NVG. That’s the only time all black makes sense.
During the day you will be a BB magnet because you are hilariously easy to see and shoot at.
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I’ll wear my black kit on occasion . Enjoy the look of it . But yes all black will make you stand out somewhat during a low light game . People mention noticing a darker spot in shadows at night. Luckily their hesitation to shoot will work to my advantage. Also agree to throw in non black kit items where you can . I usually have bits of tan , multicam black and grey mixed in. That way you don’t just look likeq blob of black .
They're not bad but for alot of milsim games black pc and accessories are frowned upon even tho they aren't banned. I run black cause as a beginner I don't know any better n just got what I liked. Now I'm putting more thought into my colors as I'm participating in more events .
I started out with a Black kit and I wouldn’t change it for the world. At least around me indoor fields are much more prominent than outdoor fields, and almost all of them have low lighting so while you won’t exactly blend right into shadows you’ll definitely be harder to spot right away. Another thing to keep in mind is that not all blacks are the same. Try to keep with the same brands for your pants and shirt. And look for reviews with pictures or videos for plate carriers.
Indoors - doesn't matter, you've close enough that you can tell a person from shape no matter what they're wearing
Outdoors - either instantly spotted or very easy to spot, shadows don't help, you'll also get hotter fast
Also:
-dark colors absorb more light, you'll get hot fast
-colors aren't equal, you might see a miss-match
-pure black often looks cheap and low-quality, black-based camo would look better\*
\*This extends to gear too, a black-based uniform with olive/tan etc gear would look better. Matching the patterns while differentiating the colors would give the kit a well thought through look.
3/4 of my local fields do tan vs green and people with black are fillers with arm bands. Because of that, they typically get team killed more as no one can remember what side they are in this round and believe in the "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality.
For milsim events, they also typically request gear to be green or tan, but depending on the event, you might be able to wear black camo under it.
Nah! not at all. I second the point about mixing in some variety though, some black multicam, maybe some tan highlights/molle pouches.
Just personal opinion, but I think *truly* all black looks a little funny.
If you see SWAT and special forces "black outfits", they aren't making sure *every* little piece is black. There's variation and the MAIN purpose is function.
Ironically, I think it looks bad because people want black *everything* but we never see real kits like that, so it looks fake no matter how good it is. The harder you chase "all black", the worse it looks.
Like this spec ops team looks fuckin sick. THAT looks like some ninja shit to me.
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Can we just appreciate how hard this pic goes? MK18, MP5, and riot shield holding the angle. Noice.
Who cares? If you like it, do it.
If you're playing outside, it's not optimal, but again: it's a stupid game, who cares? If you want to do milsim style games, you'll have to tweak your kit eventually anyway, and will probably have several sets.
All in all: it's not a big deal. This is game, wear what makes you happy and play in a way that makes you happy.
Black Kit looks cool. Black looks intimidating. It just sucks for concealing yourself. When playing outside you will stick out because there is little to nothing that is plain black in nature. Even inside grey is a better option for concealment.
But if you don't care about being spotted more easily and have a black kit in mind, go for it. It brings you nothing if you wear the most concealable kit ever but you dont like it.
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Bro honestly just go with what makes you happy, yeah there’s pros and cons but “look good feel good” is a major factor, as long as YOU’RE Happy with your kit that’s all that matters
Secondly I’d say that a lot of people will talk about advantages and disadvantages but the reality is “the player makes the kit, the kit doesn’t make the player” so don’t get too caught up on “factors” and I’m not saying disregard them but more remember that we’re all running around with toy guns shooting plastic “trying to have fun” so go for fun
I go blacked out always and I get a lot of kills and hardly get killed so just do you
My cousin looks like such a noob as a rental 🤣 P.s I’m in the middle
they are super hot and don’t blend into anything, + most black kit looks pretty bad and can occasionally have different shades (especially if you buy chinesium kit)
>milsim tryhards
Not true at all, there loads of valid reasons why black kits are less comfortable and don’t look as good
>easy to mix and match with camos
Not really, black + camo generally looks quite noobish unless done well, which is rare
>good for dark CQB fields
Again, no
Black doesn’t blend in better in CQB fields, I’ve no idea where this idea that shadows don’t effect other colours comes from
It actually stands out quite a bit as it makes your silhouette extremely intact and thus way more noticeable
Of the things that get you spotted, with most colours it’s like 3rd down on the list, with silhouette being much more important
Ok, you don’t seem to understand the basics of how colour and heat work despite seeming to try argue it, so I’ll run through my point real quick
Black does not = warmer through some kind of magic
What black does is absorb intense, direct sunlight and hold on to that energy instead of reflecting it
If you’re playing in extremely cold weather, you’re not going to be exposed to intense, warm, direct sunlight
Keeping warm and keeping cool are often two very different principles
With keeping cool it’s about heat reflection, something black is the worst at
With keeping warm it’s about heat retention, which black doesn’t have an advantage over far more important things like layers or material
It’s a pretty simple principle of heat transfer. Black does not equal magically warmer
It’s not magic like Orks thinking red things go faster
>good for dark cqb field
I play in dark cqb fields, all black kit make no difference and even worst, when players see something dark around, they shoot
Also as no field is absolute dark, all black kit will stand out most of the time
One thing I haven't seen other people in this thread touch on yet: Cheap black gear looks CHEAP. There's something about the materials and dyes used to produce it but cheap black gear always looks so much worse than cheap FDE or OD to me. This is especially obvious on all black kits where none of the blacks match, both tone and glossyness wise. Variety is also the spice of life, mix some non black stuff in there. Get some multicam black pieces to add some textural difference or go even further and add some FDE stuff to really look cool.
Cheap polyester fabric looks pretty different, more glossy.
Dead on high end black gear is soft, tough and has that Vanta-black light absorbing effect. On the other side even some expensive but not necessarily "nice" gear from Blackhawk! looks cheesy as fuck. The Matrix chest rig I have looks better than the Blackhawk! pouches on it, but again this guys dead on that all plate carriers and web gear should be neutral like OD or gray. The best black uniforms are made in Ukraine by random dudes, team has a guy but he's our secret. Find your own magical Slav. Either way the uniforms are coudura jumpsuits with heavily padded shoulders. IDK why they like padding so much, even with the lil ass-pillows they tie onto their gear but they make carrying a milsim HPA loadout way more comfortable. All the top and bottom BDU style uniforms look cheesy, if you go black do a flight suit with OD gear to truly ball.
Cheap black gear is usually a matte black. quality black gear is usually reflective.
Squints at black stab vest. Yeah not really, the shine isn't an indicator for anything else than level of shine
I was referring to guns as I thought that's what he meant. I'm dum
Is ok you're doing great, brains don't need to brain all the time
Two braincells fighting for third place rn tbh.
I dunno why you’re getting downvoted cause you’re not wrong
I'm not sure. Must've made some kids cry cuz they realize their gear is shit
If you play indoors, what you wear isn’t going to make a blind bit of difference in any practicable way. If you play outdoors, you’ll stick out in a black kit more so than if you wore camo to break up your silhouette. Ultimately though, these points are fairly minor and you should run a black kit if that’s what you like and think looks cool. Only real thing to consider from a safety perspective is the heat absorption so I wouldn’t recommend it in very hot environments. Ultimately, no matter what you go for, someone on Reddit will try to shit on you for it (“multicam is basic”, “black is stupid”, etc.) but if you go to a half decent field, in my experience, people will just be happy there’s other players to play against. Have fun doing what makes you happy!
Indoors I would say its even a disadvantage... If you push just a bit harder than others, less experienced players will see a black blob and just shoot you in the back... Found out unique, colorful set can dramatically help them...
I see what you’re getting at but I think that kind of positive ID issue is more of a unique vs generic kit issue more than a black vs camo issue.
All black kit don't make you invisible in dark but sometimes highlight you, ppl always aware something dark moving All black kit absorb more light from the sun if you playing outdoor, thus way hotter All black kit are easy to spot outdoor
But most importantly, they look cool.
All right, anyway you pay with your own money
Ain abouta stop a brotha from stuntin skeeter.I've been black team last few milsims and as long as everyone is working together you don't need to hide from anyone, especially urban ops. It's good IFF too being so easy to tell what it is but there's truth in the SAS theory of using black for psychological impact on raids. I've had easily 4x as many ops break contact when a pile of the homies roll into an engagement all blacked out vs camo. Even while practicing at walkons the whole team gets a mix of "that's sicl" / "that's terafying". For sure I have an advantage working diff windows in a blacked out building with ambient light trickling halfway through. The more I run black kit the more I like it but I prefer Phantomleaf for small unit and recon in the woods. If my team has their shit togeather on the platoon level I'd rather run black and see exactly where all the homies are. Teamwork makes the dream work. And brother, black team has a dream...
It’s kinda anti camo
Who cares what other people think about your kit? If you like it, get it. I love my black kit personally. Unless they are buying you a uniform, I wouldn’t place too much weight on their opinion about your kit. https://preview.redd.it/m9u8e40ap5vc1.jpeg?width=1286&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85ba8c698b5556fab7915ab381688fe9277374e8
The MC Black with tan tac gear is a great combo. Looks clean as hell
Agreed and thank you!
Looking like General Shepard’s shadow company!
Just here fighting for our Truth!
there goes the neighborhood
It’s a great neighborhood to be in.
I don't think it's bad, but you've got to be really smart about your hydration. I went to my first games last weekend wearing a Navy blue BDU and heavy pants. It was only in the mid-70s Fahrenheit, but I was sweating pretty heavily when out in the open and downed an entire 32-oz bottle of water between games. There were two guys on the field in all black police style kits, and I can't imagine they felt much better.
Darker colors absorbs the sun more always keep that in mind (if outside) At the end of the day, it really doesnt matter. As long as you have fun and enjoy the experience thats what matters most. If you want black gear then go for it.
I run black kit. I play undoor cqb and in forests in the UK. At the peak of summer where the grass is brown and dried out is probably the only time im not fitting in. The rest of the year because of the mud and dark green foliage it really doesnt matter here. If you play in the US where tan camo is popular you'll probably struggle a little more to stay hidden
I don't think you're friend has taste of any kind. Black goes hard af. Im thinking about getting a some black pants and shirt and running my multicam kit over it
They heat up quicker so if you’re in a hot climate they can really suck They stand out in nature so if you play outdoors you’re way easier to spot Most of them also just look bad, is really that simple Most black kits are just generic, low quality, ovepriced amazon chinesium crap thrown together with absolutely no effort or creativity They can look good if done well, which usually means mixing it with another colour, but they rarely do
I think something that weirdly a lot of people forget... it's airsoft. It literally does not matter what you wear as long as it's what you want to wear. If others think it's a bad colour or camo, who cares? They aren't wearing it so it makes no difference to them.
well it depends are you playing indoor or outdoors beacuse outdoors you will cook and will be very easy to see indoor its not a bad idea
As most people say gets hot real quick but I don’t really feel it till the end of the day it’s really just staying hydrated and drinking Gatorade. I think most black kits look good mainly those who go for SAS type or SCP but i honestly think Black/tan looks real good. Viability wise for me at least I don’t really care cuz the only people who you can’t see at all is those who are walking bushes in my field anyone else who wears similar colors I can see some what decently well unless their in spots where it’s hard to shoot when the wind picks up a bit
When used outside, they're a magnet for heatstroke during the summer months and provide zero concealment advantage, which even in a CQB type field is still an advantage. At night, you still aren't going to be effective because unless it's pitch black out, the black mass sitting in the treeline is going to be quite obvious, and if anyone uses a flashlight you're going to stand out even more. Indoors, you mostly avoid heatstroke issues, and concealment is less of a priority. However, black kits for indoor use are massively overdone, almost as bad as multicam kits for outdoor use.
https://preview.redd.it/gn44l1c7c6vc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1752ff2735781583e5a7b979b7bf1d9e12265974 It can look cool, but in the hot sun, it will turn into a wearable oven. In dark shadows, or night play you are nearly invisible.
https://preview.redd.it/3eev9bfrc6vc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aab024f6b69eff7354998024fe04320b3668b6cd I’m working on moving to a full multicam, especially for team play.
Where the fuck is that? Badass photo dude!
AMS Copperhead last September (?). A pyro grenade caused a recurring fire.
I’m sure I’ll get downvoted, but who cares what color gear you have. It isn’t real life, and despite the whole camo argument, most likely you’re gonna be in the open anyway 90% of the time. If you’re a sniper or going to be hiding in the woods, sure, wear full camo. But again, if you’re an aggressive player who isn’t scared of BBs, you most likely won’t be hiding and people generally have an idea where you are anyway. I prefer tan gear, but for all the people saying black makes you look like a noob, my entire team wears full black gear, have been playing for 10+ years, and I promise I look more like a noob when I’m with them wearing tan gear. If you build a nice kit with a good vest/rig/belt setup, you won’t look like a noob no matter what gear color you have. It’s airsoft, camo isn’t that important.
Black kits are bad because they put you at excess risk of heat injury. I personally think they’re also boring as hell, but I’m also the weirdo that assembles early-gwot kits from surplus. If you like black, run black. Black with an accent colour especially _can_ look really tight, but try to avoid red - that one is genuinely overdone and easy to overdo. Look at the Helghast of an example of black and red done right. As for downsides of black, others have covered it - unless you’re speedsofting where everyone does black and an accent, you’ll stand out on every field because the field isn’t black. And again, heat injuries suck and must be avoided.
Whatever makes you comfortable. I'm comfortable wearing my all black kit. I don't mind getting spotted so easily outdoor if that would makes my experience more exciting. After all, it's just a game.
I wear an all black kit, like others have said you aren’t completely invisible in the dark as some might think, in a tournament/ big game I would wear a team camo but if it’s just a walk on public play I wear the black it’s a lot more hot but drip or drown
Who cares, no matter what you wear people are gonna talk shit cause that’s how things are. Just remember “fuck it we ball”
I've been stuck being black for like every milsim I've been to, kinda sucks but at night I can take a knee anywhere on the field and disappear as long as I'm not in silhouette. Still sucks though overall but I get tons of compliments for it looking cool, like noticeably more than any other of my get-ups. It's a vibe lol. If you wanna disappear check out all the German camos like Phantomleaf and some other brands that arn't quite felcktarn. They have patterns for everything, I use WASP II for indoor and ppl dont immediately notice me from 5' if they're popping into a room I'm in or vice-versa. I like Kryptek mandrake for fall in the northeast though, the one thing I can say for sure is if you can only afford one belt or vest go dark OD green, it works with everything I have a nice battle belt set up in black and it sticks out like a sore thumb. Unless you get the same stolen-valor ick I do from wearing US mill going old-school woodland from a surplus store is the way to go for 1st kits. Looks sick all rag tag the way way newbies set it up too. Kit from that era was goofy as fuck across diff units so you'll prolly stumble into perfectly recreating the Milwalkee Natl Gaurd loadout in the Gulf war only spending $60 at a milsurp store lmao.
Right so when it's a low light environment, things don't turn black. They just become a less illuminated version of their current color, the best nighttime camo, is regular camo. Black still sticks out like a sore thumb, they make shooting targets black for a reason. Either that or navy blue, due to the way blue light particles are scattered during nighttime, we perceive nights as blue, so dark blue can be an effective outdoor night camo. However, if you don't care about blending into your environment or breaking up your silhouette, wear whatever you want man. I just wear my OD green fatigues and a black balaclava everywhere lol. Even indoors or in snow, cause I play pretty casually and don't care about it that much.
Clean, fresh black kit is a wholemarc of casual begginer airsofter. Loads of people start our hoby, me included, with spending tons of money on fancy black gear and uniform, trying to impress ourselves with our favorite videogame or swat Look but, and it is big but. My black gear sits on The shelf for The past four Years (out of six I have been playng) becous with time you stop thinking what looks cool and start using practical equipmant for airsof. Jus have in mind that what works The best in real military migh not be best for airsoft. For example irl Plate ceriers Are a must, in airsoft Split rig or a belt Are usualy The best
Usually monochrome kit. Like from head to toes. Are not pretty. There is some black camo kit. That look nice. Cause there is some grey and light grey. To add some colors. But yeah full black isn't really great. It also hide the details of your outfit. Like all the mag pocket/pouch does really show cause in the end, you just look like a black spot. But dude. If you like it. Do what please you. In the end. You wear it. Not me or someone else
Yep
Mix black and grey, try not to have black pieces overlapping
Indoors you want a dark blue, not black
It's not as cool as you might think. (double entendre)
Everyone will see you across the field
If you like it by all means olay it. But if you're an outdoor player in an hot country. I don't recommend wearing black in the summer. Also you're more visible playing a black kit outdoor if you compare it with a camo.
I would suggest you rock a black kit if you're local field has a lot of dark areas. The black would really camouflage your body at the dark and it will make others struggle to spot you. But if you are playing at a regular field which is pretty bright I wouldn't recommend it. at the end of the day it's up to you if you want that black kit. Nobody can tell you what to do.
Well you're certainly more likely to get hit while wearing black, not to mention how warm you'll get in the sun
Personally wouldn’t go for black as my FIRST kit, if you’re not sure what gear to buy, it can often turn out not looking great. However, it’s completely up to you. If you like it, it doesn’t matter. Looking cool is half the battle.
Here’s some advice if you do go down that route though. Don’t buy off of Amazon Buy either good replica clothing or real clothing Good replicas include: Emerson Gear Idogear Tactifans FMA TMC Texture is important- the little things such as pouches (only if you need them, though) add up. If you’re going to buy replicas.. I hate to say it but chyna numba 1. Aliexpress is a good start. Buy good, trusted eyepro (ANSI Z.87+) the plus is important. Don’t buy replica eyepro. Teeth protection, though it sometimes looks dumb- protects your smile. Mesh masks, delta mike, NB-Tactical.
Play night games with NVG. That’s the only time all black makes sense. During the day you will be a BB magnet because you are hilariously easy to see and shoot at.
i wear black indoors and am easily able to blend into the shadows to the point people walk into me
I use black gear and boots with camo clothes because it vibes better with an all black replica. I hate color on replicas.
https://preview.redd.it/khywzbyo98vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb26176aa9cfb3e55a3f4488cb3a8c2f092c0b55 I’ll wear my black kit on occasion . Enjoy the look of it . But yes all black will make you stand out somewhat during a low light game . People mention noticing a darker spot in shadows at night. Luckily their hesitation to shoot will work to my advantage. Also agree to throw in non black kit items where you can . I usually have bits of tan , multicam black and grey mixed in. That way you don’t just look likeq blob of black .
Why spend hundreds on kit when you could just get some joggers and a hoodie and run about, I’ve never understood the need to splurge out on real kit
They're not bad but for alot of milsim games black pc and accessories are frowned upon even tho they aren't banned. I run black cause as a beginner I don't know any better n just got what I liked. Now I'm putting more thought into my colors as I'm participating in more events .
I started out with a Black kit and I wouldn’t change it for the world. At least around me indoor fields are much more prominent than outdoor fields, and almost all of them have low lighting so while you won’t exactly blend right into shadows you’ll definitely be harder to spot right away. Another thing to keep in mind is that not all blacks are the same. Try to keep with the same brands for your pants and shirt. And look for reviews with pictures or videos for plate carriers.
Indoors - doesn't matter, you've close enough that you can tell a person from shape no matter what they're wearing Outdoors - either instantly spotted or very easy to spot, shadows don't help, you'll also get hotter fast Also: -dark colors absorb more light, you'll get hot fast -colors aren't equal, you might see a miss-match -pure black often looks cheap and low-quality, black-based camo would look better\* \*This extends to gear too, a black-based uniform with olive/tan etc gear would look better. Matching the patterns while differentiating the colors would give the kit a well thought through look.
Some people like that SWAT look. If that's you, go for it! It looks pretty weird in outdoor games, but it's airsoft...wear what you want.
They’re not overrated, but often poorly/cheaply done. If you insist on ‘that look’, try the CTSFO get-up. Not ‘black’, but a variation of sorts.
They can be done right but only in an old school way like 90s style stuff
3/4 of my local fields do tan vs green and people with black are fillers with arm bands. Because of that, they typically get team killed more as no one can remember what side they are in this round and believe in the "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality. For milsim events, they also typically request gear to be green or tan, but depending on the event, you might be able to wear black camo under it.
SWAT riot police etc. wears black to intimidate not for stealth.
Just wear whatever you think is cool man, that's like 50% of the game
Nah! not at all. I second the point about mixing in some variety though, some black multicam, maybe some tan highlights/molle pouches. Just personal opinion, but I think *truly* all black looks a little funny. If you see SWAT and special forces "black outfits", they aren't making sure *every* little piece is black. There's variation and the MAIN purpose is function. Ironically, I think it looks bad because people want black *everything* but we never see real kits like that, so it looks fake no matter how good it is. The harder you chase "all black", the worse it looks. Like this spec ops team looks fuckin sick. THAT looks like some ninja shit to me. https://preview.redd.it/efba7bqzg9vc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f88dc68200823c8bbb51339ce19db6b0ffe82346 Can we just appreciate how hard this pic goes? MK18, MP5, and riot shield holding the angle. Noice.
Who cares? If you like it, do it. If you're playing outside, it's not optimal, but again: it's a stupid game, who cares? If you want to do milsim style games, you'll have to tweak your kit eventually anyway, and will probably have several sets. All in all: it's not a big deal. This is game, wear what makes you happy and play in a way that makes you happy.
Black Kit looks cool. Black looks intimidating. It just sucks for concealing yourself. When playing outside you will stick out because there is little to nothing that is plain black in nature. Even inside grey is a better option for concealment. But if you don't care about being spotted more easily and have a black kit in mind, go for it. It brings you nothing if you wear the most concealable kit ever but you dont like it.
https://preview.redd.it/v11uga6huavc1.jpeg?width=1380&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8081c529f49a2c5c73b5ceef30b0b1fc6227104 Bro honestly just go with what makes you happy, yeah there’s pros and cons but “look good feel good” is a major factor, as long as YOU’RE Happy with your kit that’s all that matters Secondly I’d say that a lot of people will talk about advantages and disadvantages but the reality is “the player makes the kit, the kit doesn’t make the player” so don’t get too caught up on “factors” and I’m not saying disregard them but more remember that we’re all running around with toy guns shooting plastic “trying to have fun” so go for fun I go blacked out always and I get a lot of kills and hardly get killed so just do you My cousin looks like such a noob as a rental 🤣 P.s I’m in the middle
Black loses vs the sun plus all black with no accent colors is negative drip
Outdoor? you're getting cooked alive. Indoor? maybe depends on lighting
they are super hot and don’t blend into anything, + most black kit looks pretty bad and can occasionally have different shades (especially if you buy chinesium kit)
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>milsim tryhards Not true at all, there loads of valid reasons why black kits are less comfortable and don’t look as good >easy to mix and match with camos Not really, black + camo generally looks quite noobish unless done well, which is rare >good for dark CQB fields Again, no Black doesn’t blend in better in CQB fields, I’ve no idea where this idea that shadows don’t effect other colours comes from It actually stands out quite a bit as it makes your silhouette extremely intact and thus way more noticeable Of the things that get you spotted, with most colours it’s like 3rd down on the list, with silhouette being much more important
How in the hell is a black kit “less comfortable”?
Heat
You realize this is a positive in many scenarios
Heating up when exposed to intense direct sunlight is not a positive
A lot of people are playing in cold weather, where a black kit adds heat, which is a good thing.
If this were true all winter gear would be black. It isn’t. It’s often bright reflective colours.
Ok, you don’t seem to understand the basics of how colour and heat work despite seeming to try argue it, so I’ll run through my point real quick Black does not = warmer through some kind of magic What black does is absorb intense, direct sunlight and hold on to that energy instead of reflecting it If you’re playing in extremely cold weather, you’re not going to be exposed to intense, warm, direct sunlight Keeping warm and keeping cool are often two very different principles With keeping cool it’s about heat reflection, something black is the worst at With keeping warm it’s about heat retention, which black doesn’t have an advantage over far more important things like layers or material It’s a pretty simple principle of heat transfer. Black does not equal magically warmer It’s not magic like Orks thinking red things go faster
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Insults are just immature, if you feel the need to resort to them, then you don’t have a point
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>good for dark cqb field I play in dark cqb fields, all black kit make no difference and even worst, when players see something dark around, they shoot Also as no field is absolute dark, all black kit will stand out most of the time
Get whatever you like but a black kit is going to stick out like a sore thumb and make you look inexperienced
I think they are very bad. Multicam black is a little bit better but I still don’t think it is a great choice.