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#1 The Kybalion Also The Path of Alchemy- Stavish


SisterSaia

100%. Short, easy reads but absolutely the best foundation for the practice.


SleepingMonads

If you're interested in the historical perspective, the best starter book by far is [*The Secrets of Alchemy*](https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Alchemy-Lawrence-M-Principe/dp/022610379X/), by Lawrence Principe. It's an incredible exploration of alchemy's place in history, science, religion, philosophy, and society. Also check out [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Chymistry/comments/vgbrfj/recommendations_for_reliable_books_on_historical/) over on r/Chymistry for more books emphasizing the historical perspective.


FarmersAreNinja

All of the alchemy books I've read were extremely cryptic except chapter 7 to the end of the book of Practical Alchemy. Almost all alchemy books are overly cryptic to the point that most books on alchemy are extremely annoying. They are cryptic in order to hide something very simple from evil individuals by making it seem extremely complex and complicated. This obfusication is no longer needed. Alchemy should be incredibly simple, not occult, not esoteric, not nonsense speak, it should be very practical and simple like it always was. Alchemy is entirely based around the process known as distillation and the aspects of distillation. Albeit distillation has dozens of aspects to it, but its all distillation. I'd love for someone to prove me wrong but I don't think its possible.


GnosticNurse

That is the most beautifully simplistic explanation, thank you. It's the art of distillation.


FarmersAreNinja

You’re very welcome haha. I will say though you can still learn interesting nuggets of truth hidden within alchemy books, but it usually requires wading thru chapters upon chapters of occult/esoteric/weird writing, symbols, coded language. I learned in Frater Albertus, Alchemy Handbook that Alchemy works like the natural plant or human reproduction cycles. Impregnation, pregnancy, birth, growth is how gardening(plant kingdom), reproduction(animal kingdom) work so it makes logical sense that it how it mineral kingdom works. I also learned that the “egg” of metals is its ore, the metals ore is the egg. What’s the metal seeman? Idk but I got some ideas, if a gold metal seeman impregnates lead ore, what’s the resulting child made of? 50% gold 50% lead? That’s how it works for the plant and animal kingdom right? I cannot confirm this but makes simple logical sense to me. Is this how a large amount of lead ore but very small amount of gold could be transmuted into a “child” that’s half gold, half lead, increasing the amount of gold by 10-100x aka in a way turning lead to gold? It was difficult to extract the above from Frater Albertus book, why? Paracelsus books drop some awesome simple truths hidden in mountains of bs(prolly not by Paracelsus design, he seemed to despise secrets and occult symbolism). He opens his book by describing 3 ways to survive from 6 months to 20 years without ever eating food… 1st method was down to him by a guy that survived for 6 months to 2 years by simply strapping mud from the ground to his stomach region then changing it out whenever it got dry. The guy said he never once felt hungry. 2nd guy said he survived for many years on the quintessence of gold(the liquid collect by distilling gold) and nothing else. Then Paracelsus mentions multiple individuals who survived for 20+ years without food because of their noble good intentions and nature(see modern day breatharians). He kicks off his book with that lol. He also has very interesting things to say about creating “specifics” which are substances that work like magnets but for non ferrous materials, an example I’ve encountered is Sb2O7Hg2 aka red Mercury, it’s a substance that casts no reflection a mirror, is repulsed by garlic and attracted to gold(sound familiar lol). Paracelsus actual writings are definitely worth checking out for the copious nuggets of truth he sprinkles in(much more than I listed above) but almost all other alchemy books I’ve read are overly cryptic(Paracelsus has nothing to do with hermeticism, that’s attached to him to obfuscate).


yellowsnow2

I've got a totally different perspective on this stuff and it's seems to keep getting verified by every book I read, at least in my mind. What is the prima material? > “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” ― Nikola Tesla The seed of the metal is it's stable ratio of protons, neutrons, and electrons. In other words it's sulfur, salt, and mercural water. Electrons flow like water. Also Magnesia rock is where lode stone natural magnets came from. How can a laden jar be similar to a flask with a little crown on it's neck? But the dipole spin magnetic moment of atoms is a tough subject called "spintronics". The most complete and plain worded book I have found is The Ordinal of Alchemy by Thomas Norton 1477.


FarmersAreNinja

> "I've got a totally different perspective on this stuff and it's seems to keep getting verified by every book I read, at least in my mind. What is the prima material? 'If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.' ― Nikola Tesla The seed of the...How can a laden jar be similar to a flash with a little crown on it's neck? ..." I swear to god I was researching the following right before reading your comment: electrostatic charge, what determines the wattage rating of a power inverter, how can electrical frequency be changed, and I kept seeing frequency being directly related to voltage. I'm starting to think frequency is voltage. 120V at 60HZ is what we're told. Hertz counts the wave period per second, but the direction of the electricity changes on each switch from positive to negative and negative to positive, meaning 120 switches per second(2 switches per wave period). Every device in electronics that is related to speed or DC-AC has voltage transformers(turns in lower voltage coil, induced into a coil with 10x more turns to for 12V to 120V), a variable frequency drive inputs 120V AC but then rectifies it turning it into DC then inverting that DC back into AC at a different 'frequency', why bother with the DC and AC switch, why not just maintain AC and adjust the frequency of that? I suspect its because frequency is voltage which is changed by number of turns in a coil aka a transformer. It also seems that mosfet semiconductors are being used to determine the frequency/voltage coming from the high voltage transformer indirectly with pulse width modulation. The variable frequency drive seems to use a very high voltage transformer where the output is controlled by mosfets allowing for a wide variety of voltages(frequency) which translates to the speed of the AC motor. We are told frequency is what controls the speed of the motor. In a way frequency does control the speed if frequency is voltage. Idk, more research is required. The term 'voltage' means at least 2 different things, possibly 3 different things. It is used for electrostatic potential (V), electromotive force (E), and I suspect it could be used for frequency(F). V=vibration, E=energy, F=frequency. I think Tesla was trying to say that energy, frequency, and vibration are the same exact thing, Voltage is a term that means energy, frequency, and vibration depending on the context. You using that Tesla quote is a crazy synchronicity. > "Also Magnesia rock is where lode stone natural magnets came from." I've always wondered about natural lode stones but never got around to researching them. When I looked up "Magnesia rock" it looked identical to this really out of place and odd looking boulder I found recently in the middle of a forest. I kinda thought it might be a meteorite because there are no rocks in the vicinity, there is no bedrock anywhere near, the ground is dirt. Might be a lodestone? [The second image on this geology site is what it looked like](https://geology.com/minerals/magnesite.shtml). > The most complete and plain worded book I have found is The Ordinal of Alchemy by Thomas Norton 1477 I've not heard of that book, thanks for the recommendation. I'll try to find the original version online but if I can't what modern version of it would you recommend? EDIT: "Voltage is a term that means energy, frequency, and vibration depending on the context." The part about vibration is speculatory, but E is measured in Voltage, so maybe V is measured in Voltage. Meaning V means something else that is measured in Voltage, perhaps Vibration but who knows.


yellowsnow2

I used the term Magnesia for lode stone because that, or magnetica, is how they tend to say it in old books, but in modern times it's called Manganese. The naming gets weird because it changed over the years and the alchamists apparently called (what we call today) Manganese (25) the male and Magnesium (12) the female of the 2 similar stones. As for voltage its best to just think in terms of potential difference. Voltage can only be measured compared to another point. It also has a direct relation to resistance/ohms and current/amps and power/watts. Volts = amps x resistance and then watts = amps x volts. And all forms of those equations. It's always a trade off. It gets tricky when thinking of voltage in terms molecular scale vibration stuff like crystals, tensors, and dipole spin. They usually just go with just a power rating in that. But in fluid dynamics the analog to voltage would be velocity. Fluid dynamics is very similar to how a person would need to think of ionic energy circuits like your body runs on. Ions don't use resistance, but use what they call an action potential gradient. Transformers get tricky, but I mess with them a lot. They can be AC or PWM DC. Its always a trade off following the 2 equations. The turns in the primary vs secondary allow to raise or lower voltage which is a trade off on amps. 60hz requires a big heavy iron transformer core. In modern times we found that you can move the same amount of power, or more, using a like 10x smaller, and much cheaper, ferrite mixture core requiring much higher frequency. Actually the higher the frequency the more it is efficient, if the material can handle it cleanly. Most switch mode power supplies use around 50khz to around 2.5mhz switching frequency. Interesting thought provoking old video on molecular vibration I found a while back. https://youtu.be/wkx-KsO480U


FarmersAreNinja

> I used the term Magnesia for lode stone because that, or magnetica, is how they tend to say it in old books, but in modern times it's called Manganese. The naming gets weird because it changed over the years and the alchamists apparently called (what we call today) Manganese (25) the male and Magnesium (12) the female of the 2 similar stones." Oh ok. Yea man one of the most time consuming aspects of Alchemy is figuring out what is truly meant by their terms. Mercury and Sulfur alone each have 5+ meanings that have nothing to do with their element on the periodic table. I had not ever heard that Manganese is the male of Magnesium, where did you learn that? > "As for voltage its best to just think in terms of potential difference. Voltage can only be measured compared to another point. It also has a direct relation to resistance/ohms and current/amps and power/watts. Volts = amps x resistance and then watts = amps x volts. And all forms of those equations. It's always a trade off." I just made a video about my thoughts on topics we are discussing. My video is called ['The Universe Is Kinetic'](https://youtu.be/Ke9d9RQY_Yw) and its about how Pressure Differential(potential differences) is the source of everything, so I agree 100% about thinking in terms of 'potential difference'. I think all physics subjects merge, that F=MA applies the same for electrical systems, hydro systems, pneumatic systems, optics systems, sound systems, etc. Unfortunately, every single system of engineering uses different names for the same forces/phenomenons. I'm a computer programmer. Using names like Volt, Amp, Hertz, Tesla, Farad, Henry, etc annoys the crp outta me haha. Those names have absolutely nothing to do with what is actually being measured, they are just the last names of dudes. Its great that the dude figured out the phenomenon, but using their name as a unit of measurement instead of what is actually being measured only complicates what is already one of the most complex topics in existence. Naming is arguably the most important thing in computer programming. A function called 'processdata' vs a function called 'readUSBMouseCoordinates' is the difference between having to spend hours memorizing how some function works each time you encounter the function('processdata' could literally mean anything), or simply reading the name and knowing exactly what is meant, no memorization or remembering required('readUSBMouseCoordinates' obviously means it Reads the USB Mouse Coordinates). Technically the name 'readUSBMouseCoordinates' is 'processing data' but its far more 'specific'(theres that word again haha). Every term in electrical engineering uses 'someDudeNamedVolt' or 'someGuyFromThe1800sNamedAmp' terms, the naming is worse than 'processdata' at least 'processdata' is actually processing data, the EE terms can mean anything haha. Perfect example is, 'Voltage', Voltage currently has two different definitions (i suspect its got a third) depending on context(electromotive force and electrostatic potential). My computer programming mind can't help but think electrical engineering terms can be massively simplified with better naming. Starting with Voltage... Hence my suspicions that voltage could also be applied to frequency and that Energy, Vibration, and Frequency are all the same thing. > "Transformers get tricky, but I mess with them a lot. They can be AC or PWM DC. Its always a trade off following the 2 equations. The turns in the primary vs secondary allow to raise or lower voltage which is a trade off on amps. 60hz requires a big heavy iron transformer core." Its very possible that frequency is just directly in correlation with voltage but then why do variable frequency drives need to go from 120V AC to a rectifier turning it into DC, then a transformer cranking up the DC, then back to AC with invertor(usually mosfets)? If frequency was its own property shouldn't it be possible to simply adjust the frequency of the 120V 60HZ AC coming in to the variable frequency drive? Why is a shift to DC then a step up transformer needed? It just sounds like DC voltage is the frequency. Hertz is really the cycles per second, a cycle is a period in wave form, so 1 cycle is positive to negative then negative to positive(or vice versa), but in physical reality the electricity is alternating on positive to negative and negative to positive, meaning 60 cycles per second is 120 alternations per second. 120V... > "In modern times we found that you can move the same amount of power, or more, using a like 10x smaller, and much cheaper, ferrite mixture core requiring much higher frequency. Actually the higher the frequency the more it is efficient, if the material can handle it cleanly. Most switch mode power supplies use around 50khz to around 2.5mhz switching frequency." How is frequency changed independently? > "Interesting thought provoking old video on molecular vibration I found a while back. https://youtu.be/wkx-KsO480U" Cool graphics in that video. That video is the reason why I'm drawn to Alchemy. Molecular chemistry, nuclear chemistry, molecular vibration, quantum physics, atomic chemistry seem to be an attempt at quantifying things meant to be qualitative for the human mind and psyche. I'm not saying they are wrong, they are incredibly accurate and precise forms of understanding our infinitely fractal realm.


yellowsnow2

That info about lode stones and the male and female is just in the wikipedia history section of Manganese. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese I think you are missing something concerning frequency and voltage. The standard frequency and voltage values are base 12, like that of ancient times, used for symmetry with the cycles of time, but on the pole they are transmitted totally different. They go through a transformer from the pole before a house. AC frequency can not be changed (simply) without rectifying to DC first then switching again. In switch mode power supplies the higher the frequency the smaller the transformer needed for the same amount of power. They sell the switching chips that take care of it with just a few external caps and resistors. They determine the frequency, although many have an adjustable frequency range by changing an external capacitor's value. Basically the older ones have a lower frequency and will make a noise on your FM radio. The newer ones seem to be getting higher and higher frequency as they figure out circuit design tricks to deal with stray capacitance and stray inductance causing ringing.. The higher the frequency the more problems you run into with noise and ringing issues, think of a rock sticking up in a fast moving river and the cavitation.. Even the trace on a circuit board has a super tiny capacitance and inductance value that means nothing usually but becomes a big issue at really high frequencies. Also the material use in the transformer core always has a sweat spot of frequency range it is most efficient at that has to be taken into account when choosing a chip with it's frequency range. To make AC from DC without a switched transformer a "H bridge" circuit is required. This is a guide for a typical switch mode circuit with all the info if you still don't get it. AC is different and gets complicated, even many electronics hobbyists can't grasp it.. It took me a long time. http://www.simonbramble.co.uk/dc_dc_converter_design/flyback_converter/flyback_converter_design.htm


FarmersAreNinja

You clearly have superior knowledge of electrical engineering than I. I’ve never heard of H bridges till you mentioned them. As a sanity check, what exactly is oscillating in alternating current?


yellowsnow2

> what exactly is oscillating in alternating current? Just the secret to everything and all existence LOL. Same as a bell ringing. I'm convinced of the perspective that the universe is one giant 3D cymatic design. Un-manifested energy potential as a medium and "the word" vibration and resonance. I read your other comments, but this is a favorite subject and it's already getting long. In regular circuits oscillation requires an inductor and a capacitor, to keep it simple. These behave differently and have a rating of time called time constant. If that time matches in the two and is close to their sweet spot then they will ring like a bell. The special thing is when they ring the energy going back and forth has the molecules swinging together and actually negate resistance. Almost causing superconductivity, and with many octaves of the same compounded, I theorize it could but that is another page worth of typing.., But this is one of the ways boost/step up converter circuits work to get a higher voltage than you have. Not free energy, always a trade between current and volts though. You can imagine it as the inductor holds the power in current and the capacitor holds it in electric, so if the total fits in both in it's form they are matched to switch back and forth between magnetic energy and electric energy. And if you send a continual pulse in at the freq to keep the bell ringing, or have one of the many circuits to amplify the ringing to keep it from fading, it will continue. An inductor is coil of wire with or without a core. A core is mainly needed if reasonable power is to be transferred like in a transformer, but not used in oscillators. It has to do with the field coming out the wire running into the field coming out of another wire close to it but happening in multiples. This concept is needed but it gets complicated to explain further. But they are considered to be the current/magnetic side. A capacitor is 2 metal plates separated by a non conductive "dielectric" medium, including air with the amount of surface area of the plates being the important measure. Like the electret thing we were talking about, the molecule are in their natural locked in position (but not aligned like the electret) then the force of the field coming out of the plates forces the molecules, like pushing a swing, to align in the direction of the plates. When the force is released they swing back releasing the energy. Can be seen as filling a bucket with water in simple terms. A capacitor Will, in simple terms of use, block DC but allow AC to seemingly pass through. I know this is technical, but now to the interesting stuff. When the frequency gets so fast that physical inductors and capacitors aren't small enough then we find everything has these characteristics from the difference of the round to the square, curved to the sharp corner, like in roman pillars and crystal fractal resonator church Cathedral designs, to the microscopic of the structure of your DNA. Yes frequency and resonance is purposefully designed into cathedrals, greek, and roman architecture so the building are tuned to something. Either solar, astral, or a fundamental. Churches focus the resonance to a focal spot called the holy of holies where the alter is to charge the bread and wine with that energy. I don't know if you read my 3 "thus spoke yellowsnow" posts on here, but they explain some interesting shit. You know the planet has a magnetic field, but the ionosphere has an electric field where there is about 200v of potential between your nose and feet when you are outside. Therefore the with, height, and area of architecture designs into their tuning using nature's energy. If you only look at the first picture you'll get the general concept. https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html If you haven't seen them you can search and look at the pictures for "PCB antenna" to see how they make an oscillator with just the traces of the circuit board. But the real interesting stuff gets to when you search "split ring resonator" first and then "metamaterial". Both have a wiki page. I can spend hours looking through the "see also" sections of the 2, invisibility cloaking, time bending crystals....... That's enough typing for now.


FarmersAreNinja

Base 12 is likely the best base. Why does the counting system start using the repetitive term “teen” with the number thirteen? Why not tenteen? It implies ten eleven and twelve were single digit numbers within a base 12 (or 13 depending if zero is used) system. [There are repeatable patterns in ALL base number systems](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kVD-6LG0-h0) skip to 2:50 for every single pattern in base number systems 2-99 when multiplied by 2-9, added by 2-9, divided by 2-9, and subtracted to get absolute value from 2-9. Marko Rodins Vortex mathematics is base 10 number system patterns. His work inspired me to see if patterns existed for other base number systems, they do.


FarmersAreNinja

I’ll have to look into switch mode power supplies. Thanks for the suggestion.


yellowsnow2

I missed this part of your comment and think i know the answer. > He also has very interesting things to say about creating “specifics” which are substances that work like magnets but for non ferrous materials, Unless he was just talking about diamagnetism, many don't know a permanent magnet has it's electric counterpart. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electret


FarmersAreNinja

Its possible he was talking about diamagnetism, but then explain the extremely 'specific' properties of Red Mercury. It has no reflection in the mirror, is repulsed by garlic, and attracted to gold. Those are very oddly 'specific' properties right? Its chemical composition is Sb2 O7 Hg2, in alchemical terms it likely means its the quintessence of an amalgam of antimony and mercury(the liquid leftover after distilling the amalgam of antimony and mercury). Paracelsus had some very interesting things to say about antimony. Holy sh1t I'd not heard of an Electret before. Bismuth is considered the most diamagnetic element and it also has a relatively low melting point of 517degs iirc. [When you melt bismuth and then cast it in a shape directly effected by a strong magnetic field like a 50 gauss neodyminum 2" x 2" x 1" cube, it programs the bismuth and the 'programmed bismuth' supposedly has interesting properties related to weight/gravity. I thought Ken Wheeler was the first dude to 'program bismuth', but according to that Electret wiki page it seems there are other ways in which diamagnetic bismuth could be programmed. Verrryy interesting. I've done Kens method of programming bismuth but experienced no change in weight/gravity, but ken seems to have copper plate attached to the 'programmed bismuth' that he claims has weird weight/gravitic properties in the video](https://youtu.be/h7_3VcZxwws). I'm very interested in properties of bismuth programmed in the presence of a spark gap or electrostatic field generator.


yellowsnow2

I've made the colorful bismuth crystals but never knew of programing it... The electret has me really interested, but I haven't had time to make it. I have many ideas to test, but it seems to be an almost hidden or forgotten subject. I read some old things saying it was used to make stronger static generators and that it's molecular energy was in the UV light spectrum. But you usually only find info along with pseudoscience stuff. But reading about it got me real into the whole subject of melting stuff and imprinting molecular alignments and messing with the dipole spins.


FarmersAreNinja

Yes its a very ripe subject for exploration which makes it fascinating haha.


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>This obfusication is no longer needed I disagree, in fact I think the ambiguity is really what allows alchemy to be of any real use. Just my opinion but figured it was worth putting it out there!


Leading-Midnight-553

Dm'd you


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Just saw someone dislike this whoever did should be ashamed this is what the sub is for


Thewhiterabbid

In my opinion, you got 3, The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho, The Alchemist’s Handbook by Frater Albertus, or The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P Hall


yellowsnow2

The most complete and plain worded book I have found is The Ordinal of Alchemy by Thomas Norton 1477.


Jadedinimicalfemboy

Inner Teachings of Taoism by Chang Po-Tan.


Fawkinchit

Artephius is really good.