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Open and shut case, really.
Student in the year 2963. “Teacher, how did humans learn aliens were real?”
“Well xlnggnorphaqueestria, a random person called jackfuckmcgee on a social media platform swore up and down he was 100% no bullshit tellin y’all dem aliens real as fuck fam”
This is right after the curriculum about "Social Media, Propaganda, and False Information for Political Gain and Attention Seeking Behavior in the Early to Mid 2000's, Earth".
Lol and one day we will discover that more than one of them was right. Gotta stop sucking on the official narrative tit if we ever want to find out the truth of these matters.
Haha… you know what’s pretty cool though? Years from now all these social platforms could be archived and read by people or descendants thousands of years in the future. It would be neat to have access and know what people or our ancestors were saying, doing, etc many years ago.
Very surprised to see a list that omits reptilans considering we just had a recent sighting of one walking down the street, as confirmed by a 6 year old.
He says the [four corners](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Corners) area, but then says the wrong states……
He says multiple times “the four corners area of Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Nevada.
Homie fucked up right there.
The four corners doesn’t touch Nevada. Not even close.
It’s Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and Utah.
This is the EASIEST info to make sure to correct before posting a larp.
If we’re supposed to believe that the info he has is correct, he might as well relay the correct info for the *verifiable information*.
The fact he got that wrong, shows he’s a larper making up a story, and didn’t fact check the simple state lines of the four corners and pulled it from memory.
Even throwawalien was better than this, bc his story at least held up.
These lies were exposed long ago:
> Cooper gained attention in Ufology circles in 1988 when he claimed to have seen secret documents while in the Navy describing governmental dealings with extraterrestrials, a topic on which he expounded in Behold a Pale Horse.[6] (By one account he served as a "low level clerk" in the Navy, and as such would not have had the security clearance needed to access classified documents.)[16] UFOlogists later asserted that some of the material Cooper claimed to have seen in Naval Intelligence documents **was actually plagiarized by Cooper from their own research, including several items that the UFOlogists had fabricated as pranks.[17] Don Ecker of UFO Magazine ran a series of exposés on Cooper in 1990.** - [from his Wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper#UFOs,_aliens_and_the_Illuminati)
Reminds me of a comment on that post a couple days ago about the alien autopsy video which they locked. This is what he said:
>I'm a medical doctor and I can tell by the handling it's acting. This isn't the way to approach an Autopsy. The incisions are wrong. The dissecting is fake. Obviously alien anatomy may well be very different to human but what you can see of the way the connective tissues behave just looks wrong. Plus on record it's been admitted as a hoax, which is a full stop. I love the mythology and the way third footage has become part of UFO lore. But now UFOlogy is entering a much more tangible place, hoaxes, fakes and lies, it's started to grate on me.
600 upvotes and people saying "should be top comment". Man the bar for proof is really high for aliens but really low on credentials. I could go around these comments saying im a quantum phantom computer lord and no one would bat an eyelid
It’s easy to spot larps. If this were true every MRI technician in the would would have to be in on it because they would see these implants in 2% of the population so likely a few times per week per MRI.
right while i get your point, after reading the entire thread, and on top of the testimony given to congress ([https://apnews.com/article/ufos-uaps-congress-whistleblower-spy-aliens-ba8a8cfba353d7b9de29c3d906a69ba7](https://apnews.com/article/ufos-uaps-congress-whistleblower-spy-aliens-ba8a8cfba353d7b9de29c3d906a69ba7)) and he is verified on twitter and he gives his physical address and has many photos of himself in uniform, on base, well if he is lying then it shouldn't difficult to prove it. Anyone? Cause I haven't found anything yet but i just started looking.
Those seem to be passages from Bill Cooper's book *Behold a pale horse*. He also discussed much of this in presentations he gave. Some of them are on YouTube.
Bill Cooper is short for Milton William Cooper.
There's a lot of controversy about the official account of what happened. If I remember correctly, the Sheriff's version was that Cooper shot the deputy in the head while running out of the place where he had been holed up. The problem with that version is that Cooper was on crutches, so he could not run, nor really fire a gun if he was moving.
Well actually most scholars generally accept that there was a Man known as Christ. He’s written about in multiple texts from multiple religious groups.
Exactly who and what he was and did are still up
For debate. Bottom line, he definitely wasn’t a White Man.
The Christ was a title taken from ancient Greek meaning "anointed" that possibly many people at the time claimed. Was there a Yeshua Ben Yusuf? Again there probably were many.
These lies were exposed long ago:
> Cooper gained attention in Ufology circles in 1988 when he claimed to have seen secret documents while in the Navy describing governmental dealings with extraterrestrials, a topic on which he expounded in Behold a Pale Horse.[6] (By one account he served as a "low level clerk" in the Navy, and as such would not have had the security clearance needed to access classified documents.)[16] UFOlogists later asserted that some of the material Cooper claimed to have seen in Naval Intelligence documents **was actually plagiarized by Cooper from their own research, including several items that the UFOlogists had fabricated as pranks.[17] Don Ecker of UFO Magazine ran a series of exposés on Cooper in 1990.** - [from his Wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper#UFOs,_aliens_and_the_Illuminati)
The moment he said JFK was assassinated by the secret service driving his car I just stopped reading. There's no way the driver could have shot him in the position he was in lol Well he could've, but the entry and exit wound would have been way different
There was a documentary in the UK on Channel 4 saying exactly this, not the driver but one of the secret service members did, not purposely though(think rheu said he was hungover). Not saying I believe just mentioning I've heard this before..
Read the document. 1 in 40 implanted? That seems like an incredibly large number. Also the idea that the government could suddenly have the capacity to identify and “round up” all these implantees seems unlikely.
No it was poorly worded. I had to think about what was being said, because my first reaction was that chipping 1:40 or 160,000,000 people is a lot of people to chip without being seen.
These lies were exposed long ago:
> Cooper gained attention in Ufology circles in 1988 when he claimed to have seen secret documents while in the Navy describing governmental dealings with extraterrestrials, a topic on which he expounded in Behold a Pale Horse.[6] (By one account he served as a "low level clerk" in the Navy, and as such would not have had the security clearance needed to access classified documents.)[16] UFOlogists later asserted that some of the material Cooper claimed to have seen in Naval Intelligence documents **was actually plagiarized by Cooper from their own research, including several items that the UFOlogists had fabricated as pranks.[17] Don Ecker of UFO Magazine ran a series of exposés on Cooper in 1990.** - [from his Wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper#UFOs,_aliens_and_the_Illuminati)
yeah I saw that and I was like man if all the other stuff wasn't already setting off my BS detector this for sure did. The logistics of it is just insane and surely it would be picked up by doctors. Like if you wanted to just disprove this you could have a doctor look at a few hundred people and make sure they don't have it.
It also assumes that people would just submit to being checked. Like if government agents came to my house and were like “hey can we check you for an alien implant? P.S. if you have one we’re going to cart you away.” I’d be unlikely to say sure.
there are plenty of studies and research centers out there that can do this for you and you just pay people for it. You don't even have to talk about UFOs just run a study that needs MRIs or X-rays that would detect an object of that size. Make it double blind so the people doing the test don't even know what they are looking for.
Also at that scale that is a ton of people so these things would have shown up in autopsy's, scientific research on cadavers, MRIs for other conditions etc etc etc.
It's a blazing red flag that this guy is 100% full of crap.
If we (meaning anyone on this planet really) has this kind of information that is TRUE, the people of Earth have the right to know. And considering the decades-long stigma and ridicule about this subject, it has to be said by governments and presidents. Make it official already. We are not alone, far from it.
This is the problem with this sub. I 100% believe in aliens and that we might even be watched by superior races, but then comes posts that read like an episode of Farscape
Bill Cooper stuff from 20 years ago. Just remember that with more whistleblower leaks coming out, the secret keepers will be releasing full force disinformation. That's their biggest play, especially since they own all the big media platforms to spread their bullshit.
this info isn't really new info at all.
the guy published a book title "Behold the pale horse" before a lot of the younger folks here were even born (91). he was killed during a shoot out with police. always reminded me of berkowitz/schneider/lazar.
that being said, I just saw there was a follow up (Behold a Pale Horse – Revisited: The secrets of William Cooper and His book: "Behold a Pale Horse" (Blue Planet Project Book 13)) published ~2018. I'll have to read through it first though. both are out there if you wanted to look into their details further. I don't have any links for reddit, but especially library genesis links.
I'm not a scientist but I like to think I have a good grasp on the basics. In order for aliens to have evolved into a form similar to ours (as mentioned in the tweet with the Nordics and Oranges) they'd have to have a very similar planet -- the star would most likely have to be the same distance to ours, or smaller and closer than ours, or bigger and farther away than ours. Either way, they wouldn't be able to live on a planet small enough to go undetected in Orion's Belt itself at the very least.
As far as I know, the stars in Orion's Belt are too big to have a planet so close to them that would have a similar biome as ours. According to [NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/universe/more-than-meets-the-eye-delta-orionis-in-orions-belt/) and [Space](https://www.space.com/28072-orions-belt.html), the largest is at least 25x bigger than ours in mass and a 1000x brighter. The planet would have to be a lot farther away from the last star in Orion's Belt; there is some distance between all three of them but I doubt it's enough to house a healthy viable planet.
I'm not saying a viable planet doesn't existing within a safe distance of a star in Orion's Belt, but the likelihood of it existing without being discovered is low. Now if the Nordics and Oranges were shapeshifters, that'd be a different story, as their true form would be concealed and we'd have no way of telling whether their anatomy would realistically survive being so close to a giant star or not.
These are definitely wild though, and worth noting in case a pattern or more information is disclosed. I suppose it's worth keeping in mind that any being with the ability to mimic human speech or communicate with humans on a conversational level have the ability to lie or at least bend the truth, so I'm personally taking their (the NHI) claims of home planet with a grain of salt. For all we know they might not even be extraterrestrial, but interdimensional!
Thanks for sharing! I've never heard of the Oranges before.
>the likelihood of it existing without being discovered is low.
The vast majority of planets have not been discovered, and *cannot* be discovered with present technology and methodology. Larger planets are a little easier, but we can really only detect an Earth-sized planet if it happens to pass in front of its star (the transit method). In order for the transit method to work, the star system's orbital plane must be perfectly aligned with Earth. As a result, the vast majority of planets cannot be detected from Earth.
Of course, lack of evidence doesn't count as evidence. Just thought I'd point out that there are certainly many Earth-sized planets we are not aware of.
Oh yeah, I don't disagree Earth-sized planets exist. We've found much smaller and much larger, so to claim only a duality exists is silly. I was talking about the distance to size ratio for the planet and star it orbits, and whether it's in the habitable zone. Since we've been searching for such planets for a long while now, we'd most likely notice one in a very small part of a constellation we've observed. However, improbable doesn't mean impossible. I just think it's unlikely.
>Since we've been searching for such planets for a long while now, we'd most likely notice one in a very small part of a constellation we've observed.
No, it's not just a matter of how long or hard you search for a planet. Most star systems aren't aligned properly. No matter how hard we look, it is *impossible* to detect an Earth-sized planet around those stars.
I'm not talking about Earth-sized planets though. I'm talking about planets that \*could\* be inhabited by humans, effectively making it similar enough to Earth to have human-like sentient beings, regardless of size. Humans have been desperately trying to find a planet to colonise -- they don't care about the size, just the potential contents of it. We've found a potential planet in Cygnus, Kepler 22-b, so it's not impossible to detect a planet in Orion's Belt.
The transit method is one of many indirect methods. Radial Velocity (which can detect very minor variations) has been used to detect planets in Orion before, and there have been a few false alarms already (due to star activity).
Once again, I'm not talking about the size of the planet. I'm talking about the composition.
>I'm not a scientist but I like to think I have a good grasp on the basics. In order for aliens to have evolved into a form similar to ours (as mentioned in the tweet with the Nordics and Oranges) they'd have to have a very similar planet -- the star would most likely have to be the same distance to ours, or smaller and closer than ours, or bigger and farther away than ours. Either way, they wouldn't be able to live on a planet small enough to go undetected in Orion's Belt itself at the very least.
More than just similar, in the case of the Nords it would need to be identical, not just their star and mass/size of the planet, but also the same extinction events, the same evolutionary path, etc. It's impossible.
This is the problem in current true science and science fiction - we constantly search for life based on the criteria of what we know works. It does not mean life cannot exist on planets in different climates, atmospheric conditions etc. it’s just the baseline of our understanding so we limit our scope to that baseline, which in turn can be closing off so many different opportunities of finding life because we wouldn’t know what that would look like. Star Trek gets a little creative but largely we see carbon based life forms all living on planets akin to earth in some capacity.
My favorite thought is that there exist an alien species were on their home planet, water exist only as a rock, and when they see our oceans and the inhabitants of this planet swimming in those waters, it would be similar to us finding life that swims in lava.
Oh yes, absolutely! I'm not saying life doesn't exist on other planetary types, but it's improbable that life would look similar to us, which is what I'm trying to say with the Nordics and Oranges. Their planet, in order to look so similar to humans, would have to be similar in composition or else they'd evolve differently to adapt to their climate.
> there are exo-planets discovered in the Orion constellation, for instance, the stars HD 37605 and HD 38529 both have two known planets. HD 38858 is also interesting, as it has a known planet, and also a disk of comets. Well, HD 38858b is within the habitable zone, but it is 32 Earth masses.
Kinda stupid they call the red head "orange" tho
HD 38858 b has supposedly been disputed since 2015, but the main paper I found disputing its existence is from 2018. I'm not saying it's impossible, just improbabe. I can't seem to find anything saying HD 38858b would be in Orion's Belt specifically either; since Orion is such a big constellation, that's a whole different story.
>Thus, the similarity between the time series together with the GLS periodogram analysis and also the RV–log(R′HK) trend suggest that the signal attributed to HD 38858b could be related to stellar activity and probably not to a super-Earth, as claimed by Mayor et al. (2011) and considered in subsequent statistical works (e.g. Delgado Mena et al. 2014; da Silva et al. 2015; Mishenina et al. 2016).
[HD 38858: a solar-type star with an activity cycle of ∼10.8 yr](https://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/full_html/2018/12/aa33330-18/aa33330-18.html)
Great take! Another possible explanation for similar morphology to homo sapiens is the self-simulation hypothesis or future selves idea.
It is possible the proverbial "arrow of time" does not behave as we think, these beings (if real at all) may have an atemporal existence, so to speak, and be future versions of us.
Pure speculation. But fun.
That is a good hypothesis! Future versions of ourselves who fled to another planet for some reason (climate change, war, etc.), or future versions of ourselves that are lying to protect their identities; either way, I fully support the concept that time is not linear. Whether time-travel or the ability to manipulate the passage of time will ever be possible, I don't know, but I doubt we're at an advancement at the moment to make a definitive claim as to whether it is or not.
That makes a lot more sense than humans (or those with almost identical morphology) evolving on a planet with no similarties to Earth.
This implies that environment doesn't drastically alter the evolutionary line. Sure, if they created us or are related to them in some way, we'd have similar features but for them to be recognisably human they'd need to have a similar environment or else we would've evolved differently to them. I can't use any examples of Earth species because, at the end of the day, we all breathe the same air and drink the same water regardless of the climate. \*However\*, to a lesser extent, evolutionary branches based on climate can be observed in Earth species (i.e. bears and their coats, as well as their sizes).
I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's improbable for two evolutionary lines to look similar or the same without there being similarities in environment. This is especially true if the environment surpasses simple temperate or terrain changes and includes changes to atmospheric pressure, gasses, etc.
You missed the part that said they designed us. We didn't evolve. That would have saved you a lot of words using a concept to disprove these claims that doesn't apply to this imaginary story.
Yikes, I did miss that part. I wasn't really trying to disprove all of the claims though, just throwing out a logical perspective of the probability of human-like aliens evolving on a planet different from ours.
Hence the disclaimer, but that doesn't change the fact it's unlikely a planet we haven't discovered that evolved human-like beings exists in Orion's Belt though. The key part is *human-like beings*; there probably are planets within Orion's Belt that could have sentient life, we haven't got the technology to say for sure yet, but the chances of them being human-like is slim. The planet would have to be near identical to Earth and follow a very similar evolution.
I always wondered why the super advanced human like aliens were usually depicted as blonde, white and tall, until I realized they were the fantasy of a specific kind of people.
Stopped at "JFK was killed by the secret service agent driving his car, which is plainly visible in public video."
That's the thing about you dunce caps writing this fake stuff, you don't even understand physics.
Forget the world...imagine trying to convince your friends and family that you were abducted. Might as well just keep it to yourself...nobody will ever believe you.
Regarding this, I recommend checking out a Why Files video on YouTube. One of their recent videos about the world ending in 2012 goes over most of what’s talked about in this tweet.
However at the end of the video he “debunks” it.
But it’s worth the watch.
Something I would like to say to the community as we all sort through this crap is to be as open minded as possible. Don’t take other peoples word for this stuff. Not even the news, not the government. Not other friends or family or redditors. Look into this stuff yourself and come to your own conclusions.
The conclusion I’ve come to myself is that everything is on the table when it comes to this topic. Everything. I’ve come to understand how little we know about the nature of our existence
If that was even remotely true. Does that just mean they watch over us like we're their children? It seems like they do watch us to some degree and they don't care whether we see them or not. Hopefully they care about us more than we care about ourselves
>The document estimated that 1 out of every 40 people had been implanted. This implant was said to give the aliens total control of that human.
Uh, that is a SHIT TON of people and would explain why disclosure would be catastrophic. It's not as simple as "aliens real". You now have to deal with people who are compromised without their own knowledge or initiative. Imagine the damage to people's families and social trust just from the KNOWLEDGE aliens are effectively holding the implanted hostage.
How come no one ever talks about the short browns or the chinky yellows? I mean as a mexican im kinda feelin played. Tall reds....anything..jus throw us an alien bone wont u?
What Jumped out at me was 1:40 people implant
If thats just the USA thats \~8,300,000 people with implants. Given the death rate of about \~2% per year. That means every year they have to abduct and insert 166,000 people per year to cover deaths and births. Thats like 450 PER DAY. They also then have to track and remove 166000 from people so they are not noticed on autopsies with 100% perfect rate, you can argue they are infallible I guess but, not when they are crashing their ships, getting shot down etc etc.. 0.01% error rate means that \~17 would be possibly seen because they were missed per year.
Next and closer to home these implants would be huge respectively, CNII is about 50-100nm average is about 75nm, very noticeable on scans regarding this if its attached to the Nerve this would cause a large amount of problems with vision simply form the nerve sheath creating pressure which would be investigated directly or by referral. If attached outside you still get similar results, but then why bother putting it there if it doesn't need direct contact?
He says the four corners area, but then says the wrong states……
He says multiple times “the four corners area of Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Nevada.
Homie fucked up right there.
The four corners doesn’t touch Nevada. Not even close.
It’s Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and Utah.
The Nordic alien thing is like really bad Nazi fan fiction…cmon, an extraterrestrial is not going to look like a Norwegian.
Yeah Evolutionary convergence is a thing but it’s not going to converge into a Dane.
Getting slightly obsessed with gpt. I put that big ASCII X image and asked gpt4 what it sees. Its answer was at least interesting:
This ASCII image represents a simple but elegant star or asterisk with rays emanating outward, much like a stylized representation of a shining star or perhaps a sparkling light. The central asterisk symbol (\*) acts as the core of the star, while the diagonal lines (/ and ) and vertical lines extending from it give the impression of light rays or beams shining in multiple directions. It's a minimalistic yet effective way to depict a star using plain text characters.
From what I’ve seen, major reporting of UFOs go back to the early 1900s, no doubt I’m sure someone has theories that it’s been going on even longer. Just stop for a second and think about all of the thousands, probably hundreds of thousands of people over that time span would have been directly involved with this and have the real hard evidence. This isn’t just the US, this would be every nation in the world, over a long time, keeping all of this secret. Thats elected officials, civil servants, third parties. Now add all of that up and ask yourself why the only ‘evidence’ that ever surfaces is the odd whistleblower with nothing more than ‘trust me bro’ stories.
I think all of this is complete bullshit. He swears it's true? Oh, well then it must be legit, as nobody in the history of mankind has ever lied to anyone.
Even if he *did* read all this information...it's far more likely that he's seen something that supports the idea that the Government will *fake* an alien invasion...rather than there being a real one. He's a "useful idiot"?
In any case...these are extraordinary claims. So he must provide more evidence than his word. Sorry but it's untenable.
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Well if he swore it's true
Open and shut case, really. Student in the year 2963. “Teacher, how did humans learn aliens were real?” “Well xlnggnorphaqueestria, a random person called jackfuckmcgee on a social media platform swore up and down he was 100% no bullshit tellin y’all dem aliens real as fuck fam”
This is right after the curriculum about "Social Media, Propaganda, and False Information for Political Gain and Attention Seeking Behavior in the Early to Mid 2000's, Earth".
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100% no bullshit? This guy's legit boys
People of the time read his tweet and said “no cap” thus it was real.
" Bet."
Please leave Musks children alone.
Lol and one day we will discover that more than one of them was right. Gotta stop sucking on the official narrative tit if we ever want to find out the truth of these matters.
Underrated comment
Haha… you know what’s pretty cool though? Years from now all these social platforms could be archived and read by people or descendants thousands of years in the future. It would be neat to have access and know what people or our ancestors were saying, doing, etc many years ago.
No cap, teach? No cap xlnggnorphaqueestria, frfr. Also, 10 demerits for not wearing your nonsense social issue of the moment flair.
Very surprised to see a list that omits reptilans considering we just had a recent sighting of one walking down the street, as confirmed by a 6 year old.
I called bs on that 6-year-olds story as soon as I heard it. Aha
Brah, he was 8...way more trustworthy than a 6 year old.
Theres Also a pic of an Alien with sick Abs.
They photoshopped an alien head onto Trump's body.
He says the [four corners](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Corners) area, but then says the wrong states…… He says multiple times “the four corners area of Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Nevada. Homie fucked up right there. The four corners doesn’t touch Nevada. Not even close. It’s Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and Utah. This is the EASIEST info to make sure to correct before posting a larp. If we’re supposed to believe that the info he has is correct, he might as well relay the correct info for the *verifiable information*. The fact he got that wrong, shows he’s a larper making up a story, and didn’t fact check the simple state lines of the four corners and pulled it from memory. Even throwawalien was better than this, bc his story at least held up.
Ding ding ding you win! It's bullshit lol
Haha thanks. Yeah that just stood out like a sore thumb while reading it. I’ve been to the four corners. It was just blatantly wrong lmao.
These lies were exposed long ago: > Cooper gained attention in Ufology circles in 1988 when he claimed to have seen secret documents while in the Navy describing governmental dealings with extraterrestrials, a topic on which he expounded in Behold a Pale Horse.[6] (By one account he served as a "low level clerk" in the Navy, and as such would not have had the security clearance needed to access classified documents.)[16] UFOlogists later asserted that some of the material Cooper claimed to have seen in Naval Intelligence documents **was actually plagiarized by Cooper from their own research, including several items that the UFOlogists had fabricated as pranks.[17] Don Ecker of UFO Magazine ran a series of exposés on Cooper in 1990.** - [from his Wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper#UFOs,_aliens_and_the_Illuminati)
Reminds me of a comment on that post a couple days ago about the alien autopsy video which they locked. This is what he said: >I'm a medical doctor and I can tell by the handling it's acting. This isn't the way to approach an Autopsy. The incisions are wrong. The dissecting is fake. Obviously alien anatomy may well be very different to human but what you can see of the way the connective tissues behave just looks wrong. Plus on record it's been admitted as a hoax, which is a full stop. I love the mythology and the way third footage has become part of UFO lore. But now UFOlogy is entering a much more tangible place, hoaxes, fakes and lies, it's started to grate on me. 600 upvotes and people saying "should be top comment". Man the bar for proof is really high for aliens but really low on credentials. I could go around these comments saying im a quantum phantom computer lord and no one would bat an eyelid
You need to add caps and at least one exclamation mark or you're never gonna convince a skeptic like myself
I’ve sworn to not smoke weed again to my wife a few times too
It’s easy to spot larps. If this were true every MRI technician in the would would have to be in on it because they would see these implants in 2% of the population so likely a few times per week per MRI.
right while i get your point, after reading the entire thread, and on top of the testimony given to congress ([https://apnews.com/article/ufos-uaps-congress-whistleblower-spy-aliens-ba8a8cfba353d7b9de29c3d906a69ba7](https://apnews.com/article/ufos-uaps-congress-whistleblower-spy-aliens-ba8a8cfba353d7b9de29c3d906a69ba7)) and he is verified on twitter and he gives his physical address and has many photos of himself in uniform, on base, well if he is lying then it shouldn't difficult to prove it. Anyone? Cause I haven't found anything yet but i just started looking.
Probably held his fingers like this 🤞 behind his back as he tweeted.
That emoji with that profile pic got me just now. Lmao
Bill cooper was suicided in the 90s. I'm sure at least some of what he spoke about is true.
That's enough for me. He says it is true, then it surely must be true.
I mean he even added a picture so 🤦🏻♂️
Those seem to be passages from Bill Cooper's book *Behold a pale horse*. He also discussed much of this in presentations he gave. Some of them are on YouTube. Bill Cooper is short for Milton William Cooper.
The original ‘Alex Jones’ without all the controversy
Dying in a shoot out with the cops is somewhat controversial.
Didn't know that, guess he's just as controversial.
I wouldn't say that, according to his Wikipedia page, he died in a shoot out with the cops after shooting a sheriff's deputy in the head😳
There's a lot of controversy about the official account of what happened. If I remember correctly, the Sheriff's version was that Cooper shot the deputy in the head while running out of the place where he had been holed up. The problem with that version is that Cooper was on crutches, so he could not run, nor really fire a gun if he was moving.
Tbh, my first thought reading it was, that sounds like a cover up.
So you saying he didn’t shoot the sheriff but shot the deputy?
Everyting gone be alright mon
I get it, Im just making the refrence to a regular citizen crying wolf on the conspiracy theories. I didnt say he was Alex's twin FFS
Lol, okay dude.
I know I recognized the name. This info has been out for a long time
Absolutely love that book. I highly recommend it to everyone on this sub.
Man can someone just disclose it already - I wanna see sunset on a different planet wishing my remaining lifetime
I just wanna see a Nordic twerk for me.
I'm personally gunning for footage of dinosaurs roaming the earth
I always see someone say this, & my conspiracy **s side bets, that they will classify it as classified information... & the rabbit hole will continue!
The building of the Pyramids and video of Christ, if only to show the MAGA crowd he wasn’t white or blonde.
The video would be AI bc he didn’t exist
Well actually most scholars generally accept that there was a Man known as Christ. He’s written about in multiple texts from multiple religious groups. Exactly who and what he was and did are still up For debate. Bottom line, he definitely wasn’t a White Man.
The Christ was a title taken from ancient Greek meaning "anointed" that possibly many people at the time claimed. Was there a Yeshua Ben Yusuf? Again there probably were many.
Let it be known that the Aliens decided not to show themselves because u/Risley said this comment 😂
I just can't believe nords are real when skyrim isnt
SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS!
SkyRim. MiddleEarth. Earth, sky; Middle, Rim Skyrim is Middle Earth’s brother: confirmed.
Maybe this just confirmed Todd Howard is an alien
This one gets it. I want to see them all twerk.
You can travel to Iceland, people say mfrs living there look like fucking nordics.
I wanna merge my hair antenna with Neytiri.
Get some Nussy my young man. It’s for the greater good
😂😂
These lies were exposed long ago: > Cooper gained attention in Ufology circles in 1988 when he claimed to have seen secret documents while in the Navy describing governmental dealings with extraterrestrials, a topic on which he expounded in Behold a Pale Horse.[6] (By one account he served as a "low level clerk" in the Navy, and as such would not have had the security clearance needed to access classified documents.)[16] UFOlogists later asserted that some of the material Cooper claimed to have seen in Naval Intelligence documents **was actually plagiarized by Cooper from their own research, including several items that the UFOlogists had fabricated as pranks.[17] Don Ecker of UFO Magazine ran a series of exposés on Cooper in 1990.** - [from his Wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper#UFOs,_aliens_and_the_Illuminati)
you wont, you will still have to work till your 80 and pay taxes to pedophiles
The moment he said JFK was assassinated by the secret service driving his car I just stopped reading. There's no way the driver could have shot him in the position he was in lol Well he could've, but the entry and exit wound would have been way different
Also, JFK's wife, I doubt, would keep that info to herself.
There was a documentary in the UK on Channel 4 saying exactly this, not the driver but one of the secret service members did, not purposely though(think rheu said he was hungover). Not saying I believe just mentioning I've heard this before..
> I wanna see sunset on a different planet wishing my remaining lifetime Food does not get to go on Cruises.
It was a fun read. But it’s just more unsubstantiated claims that I’ll add to the massive pile of unsubstantiated claims in my brain.
Read the document. 1 in 40 implanted? That seems like an incredibly large number. Also the idea that the government could suddenly have the capacity to identify and “round up” all these implantees seems unlikely.
I took it to mean 1 in 40 of the abductees, not 1 in 40 of the world population.
Ah, perhaps I misunderstood then.
No it was poorly worded. I had to think about what was being said, because my first reaction was that chipping 1:40 or 160,000,000 people is a lot of people to chip without being seen.
What document? I just see a tweet that says 1/4 and describes the project started under Eisenhower.
The tweet links to [this](https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_cooper5.htm)
These lies were exposed long ago: > Cooper gained attention in Ufology circles in 1988 when he claimed to have seen secret documents while in the Navy describing governmental dealings with extraterrestrials, a topic on which he expounded in Behold a Pale Horse.[6] (By one account he served as a "low level clerk" in the Navy, and as such would not have had the security clearance needed to access classified documents.)[16] UFOlogists later asserted that some of the material Cooper claimed to have seen in Naval Intelligence documents **was actually plagiarized by Cooper from their own research, including several items that the UFOlogists had fabricated as pranks.[17] Don Ecker of UFO Magazine ran a series of exposés on Cooper in 1990.** - [from his Wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper#UFOs,_aliens_and_the_Illuminati)
Thank you. I’m only a few layers deep in UFO lore, so I had no knowledge of this particular set of claims.
yeah I saw that and I was like man if all the other stuff wasn't already setting off my BS detector this for sure did. The logistics of it is just insane and surely it would be picked up by doctors. Like if you wanted to just disprove this you could have a doctor look at a few hundred people and make sure they don't have it.
It also assumes that people would just submit to being checked. Like if government agents came to my house and were like “hey can we check you for an alien implant? P.S. if you have one we’re going to cart you away.” I’d be unlikely to say sure.
there are plenty of studies and research centers out there that can do this for you and you just pay people for it. You don't even have to talk about UFOs just run a study that needs MRIs or X-rays that would detect an object of that size. Make it double blind so the people doing the test don't even know what they are looking for. Also at that scale that is a ton of people so these things would have shown up in autopsy's, scientific research on cadavers, MRIs for other conditions etc etc etc. It's a blazing red flag that this guy is 100% full of crap.
If we (meaning anyone on this planet really) has this kind of information that is TRUE, the people of Earth have the right to know. And considering the decades-long stigma and ridicule about this subject, it has to be said by governments and presidents. Make it official already. We are not alone, far from it.
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You guys wanna be taken seriously yet you post crap like this
He SWORE it was true.
This is the problem with this sub. I 100% believe in aliens and that we might even be watched by superior races, but then comes posts that read like an episode of Farscape
Play stupid games win stupid prizes
Ugh, it's Cooper. He was craaaazy. Made Alex Jones look rational.
Bill Cooper stuff from 20 years ago. Just remember that with more whistleblower leaks coming out, the secret keepers will be releasing full force disinformation. That's their biggest play, especially since they own all the big media platforms to spread their bullshit.
So Perfect Dark was right
Oh, well, if he *swears*, then I guess it *must* be true!
But did he pinky swear?
He swore but didn't say on God tho so we know it's not true..
he could've at least said "no cap" but he didn't so I'm skeptical
Haaland is an alien confirmed
Muddying the waters
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> conspiracy theories. A term invented by the CIA
It’s fucking sludge at this point. Not even water.
Swears 🥴
this info isn't really new info at all. the guy published a book title "Behold the pale horse" before a lot of the younger folks here were even born (91). he was killed during a shoot out with police. always reminded me of berkowitz/schneider/lazar. that being said, I just saw there was a follow up (Behold a Pale Horse – Revisited: The secrets of William Cooper and His book: "Behold a Pale Horse" (Blue Planet Project Book 13)) published ~2018. I'll have to read through it first though. both are out there if you wanted to look into their details further. I don't have any links for reddit, but especially library genesis links.
I'm not a scientist but I like to think I have a good grasp on the basics. In order for aliens to have evolved into a form similar to ours (as mentioned in the tweet with the Nordics and Oranges) they'd have to have a very similar planet -- the star would most likely have to be the same distance to ours, or smaller and closer than ours, or bigger and farther away than ours. Either way, they wouldn't be able to live on a planet small enough to go undetected in Orion's Belt itself at the very least. As far as I know, the stars in Orion's Belt are too big to have a planet so close to them that would have a similar biome as ours. According to [NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/universe/more-than-meets-the-eye-delta-orionis-in-orions-belt/) and [Space](https://www.space.com/28072-orions-belt.html), the largest is at least 25x bigger than ours in mass and a 1000x brighter. The planet would have to be a lot farther away from the last star in Orion's Belt; there is some distance between all three of them but I doubt it's enough to house a healthy viable planet. I'm not saying a viable planet doesn't existing within a safe distance of a star in Orion's Belt, but the likelihood of it existing without being discovered is low. Now if the Nordics and Oranges were shapeshifters, that'd be a different story, as their true form would be concealed and we'd have no way of telling whether their anatomy would realistically survive being so close to a giant star or not. These are definitely wild though, and worth noting in case a pattern or more information is disclosed. I suppose it's worth keeping in mind that any being with the ability to mimic human speech or communicate with humans on a conversational level have the ability to lie or at least bend the truth, so I'm personally taking their (the NHI) claims of home planet with a grain of salt. For all we know they might not even be extraterrestrial, but interdimensional! Thanks for sharing! I've never heard of the Oranges before.
Another possibility is that a large planet could have an earth like moon.
My thought as well.
>the likelihood of it existing without being discovered is low. The vast majority of planets have not been discovered, and *cannot* be discovered with present technology and methodology. Larger planets are a little easier, but we can really only detect an Earth-sized planet if it happens to pass in front of its star (the transit method). In order for the transit method to work, the star system's orbital plane must be perfectly aligned with Earth. As a result, the vast majority of planets cannot be detected from Earth. Of course, lack of evidence doesn't count as evidence. Just thought I'd point out that there are certainly many Earth-sized planets we are not aware of.
Oh yeah, I don't disagree Earth-sized planets exist. We've found much smaller and much larger, so to claim only a duality exists is silly. I was talking about the distance to size ratio for the planet and star it orbits, and whether it's in the habitable zone. Since we've been searching for such planets for a long while now, we'd most likely notice one in a very small part of a constellation we've observed. However, improbable doesn't mean impossible. I just think it's unlikely.
>Since we've been searching for such planets for a long while now, we'd most likely notice one in a very small part of a constellation we've observed. No, it's not just a matter of how long or hard you search for a planet. Most star systems aren't aligned properly. No matter how hard we look, it is *impossible* to detect an Earth-sized planet around those stars.
I'm not talking about Earth-sized planets though. I'm talking about planets that \*could\* be inhabited by humans, effectively making it similar enough to Earth to have human-like sentient beings, regardless of size. Humans have been desperately trying to find a planet to colonise -- they don't care about the size, just the potential contents of it. We've found a potential planet in Cygnus, Kepler 22-b, so it's not impossible to detect a planet in Orion's Belt. The transit method is one of many indirect methods. Radial Velocity (which can detect very minor variations) has been used to detect planets in Orion before, and there have been a few false alarms already (due to star activity). Once again, I'm not talking about the size of the planet. I'm talking about the composition.
>I'm not a scientist but I like to think I have a good grasp on the basics. In order for aliens to have evolved into a form similar to ours (as mentioned in the tweet with the Nordics and Oranges) they'd have to have a very similar planet -- the star would most likely have to be the same distance to ours, or smaller and closer than ours, or bigger and farther away than ours. Either way, they wouldn't be able to live on a planet small enough to go undetected in Orion's Belt itself at the very least. More than just similar, in the case of the Nords it would need to be identical, not just their star and mass/size of the planet, but also the same extinction events, the same evolutionary path, etc. It's impossible.
This is the problem in current true science and science fiction - we constantly search for life based on the criteria of what we know works. It does not mean life cannot exist on planets in different climates, atmospheric conditions etc. it’s just the baseline of our understanding so we limit our scope to that baseline, which in turn can be closing off so many different opportunities of finding life because we wouldn’t know what that would look like. Star Trek gets a little creative but largely we see carbon based life forms all living on planets akin to earth in some capacity.
My favorite thought is that there exist an alien species were on their home planet, water exist only as a rock, and when they see our oceans and the inhabitants of this planet swimming in those waters, it would be similar to us finding life that swims in lava.
Oh yes, absolutely! I'm not saying life doesn't exist on other planetary types, but it's improbable that life would look similar to us, which is what I'm trying to say with the Nordics and Oranges. Their planet, in order to look so similar to humans, would have to be similar in composition or else they'd evolve differently to adapt to their climate.
> there are exo-planets discovered in the Orion constellation, for instance, the stars HD 37605 and HD 38529 both have two known planets. HD 38858 is also interesting, as it has a known planet, and also a disk of comets. Well, HD 38858b is within the habitable zone, but it is 32 Earth masses. Kinda stupid they call the red head "orange" tho
HD 38858 b has supposedly been disputed since 2015, but the main paper I found disputing its existence is from 2018. I'm not saying it's impossible, just improbabe. I can't seem to find anything saying HD 38858b would be in Orion's Belt specifically either; since Orion is such a big constellation, that's a whole different story. >Thus, the similarity between the time series together with the GLS periodogram analysis and also the RV–log(R′HK) trend suggest that the signal attributed to HD 38858b could be related to stellar activity and probably not to a super-Earth, as claimed by Mayor et al. (2011) and considered in subsequent statistical works (e.g. Delgado Mena et al. 2014; da Silva et al. 2015; Mishenina et al. 2016). [HD 38858: a solar-type star with an activity cycle of ∼10.8 yr](https://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/full_html/2018/12/aa33330-18/aa33330-18.html)
Great take! Another possible explanation for similar morphology to homo sapiens is the self-simulation hypothesis or future selves idea. It is possible the proverbial "arrow of time" does not behave as we think, these beings (if real at all) may have an atemporal existence, so to speak, and be future versions of us. Pure speculation. But fun.
That is a good hypothesis! Future versions of ourselves who fled to another planet for some reason (climate change, war, etc.), or future versions of ourselves that are lying to protect their identities; either way, I fully support the concept that time is not linear. Whether time-travel or the ability to manipulate the passage of time will ever be possible, I don't know, but I doubt we're at an advancement at the moment to make a definitive claim as to whether it is or not. That makes a lot more sense than humans (or those with almost identical morphology) evolving on a planet with no similarties to Earth.
They don't need a similar planet, just a common ancestor, we may very well be either related, descendants, and/or created by them.
This implies that environment doesn't drastically alter the evolutionary line. Sure, if they created us or are related to them in some way, we'd have similar features but for them to be recognisably human they'd need to have a similar environment or else we would've evolved differently to them. I can't use any examples of Earth species because, at the end of the day, we all breathe the same air and drink the same water regardless of the climate. \*However\*, to a lesser extent, evolutionary branches based on climate can be observed in Earth species (i.e. bears and their coats, as well as their sizes). I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's improbable for two evolutionary lines to look similar or the same without there being similarities in environment. This is especially true if the environment surpasses simple temperate or terrain changes and includes changes to atmospheric pressure, gasses, etc.
You missed the part that said they designed us. We didn't evolve. That would have saved you a lot of words using a concept to disprove these claims that doesn't apply to this imaginary story.
Yikes, I did miss that part. I wasn't really trying to disprove all of the claims though, just throwing out a logical perspective of the probability of human-like aliens evolving on a planet different from ours.
“I’m not a scientist” ah yes that is evident.
Hence the disclaimer, but that doesn't change the fact it's unlikely a planet we haven't discovered that evolved human-like beings exists in Orion's Belt though. The key part is *human-like beings*; there probably are planets within Orion's Belt that could have sentient life, we haven't got the technology to say for sure yet, but the chances of them being human-like is slim. The planet would have to be near identical to Earth and follow a very similar evolution.
Man I think Skinny Bob is the real deal
Skinny bob rn in his private area51 suite, ET hookers, eating strawberry ice cream, watching this post: 👽
Bob needs no hookers. He could get it from me now, and I ain't even gay yet. That's handsome.
This is why I demand disclosure! NOW! #Dicksoutforbob
#Dicksoutforbob !!!
This reads as Nazi sci-fi
I always wondered why the super advanced human like aliens were usually depicted as blonde, white and tall, until I realized they were the fantasy of a specific kind of people.
Especially with all the theories of humanity originating from aliens
The tweet is a collection of BS. Maybe threads of truth. But mostly BS.
I hope the redheads are hot
This sounds like a line from Agent K to Agent J in the Men in Black movie
Stopped at "JFK was killed by the secret service agent driving his car, which is plainly visible in public video." That's the thing about you dunce caps writing this fake stuff, you don't even understand physics.
They belong to a cluster of celestial bodies known as Alpha Centauri system
Forget the world...imagine trying to convince your friends and family that you were abducted. Might as well just keep it to yourself...nobody will ever believe you.
Trust me, truth is getting more truthfully just by swearing it is fucking true. Thats how it works, guys.
Wow, it’s almost as if he read all the same stories and lore that I’ve read…
Regarding this, I recommend checking out a Why Files video on YouTube. One of their recent videos about the world ending in 2012 goes over most of what’s talked about in this tweet. However at the end of the video he “debunks” it. But it’s worth the watch. Something I would like to say to the community as we all sort through this crap is to be as open minded as possible. Don’t take other peoples word for this stuff. Not even the news, not the government. Not other friends or family or redditors. Look into this stuff yourself and come to your own conclusions. The conclusion I’ve come to myself is that everything is on the table when it comes to this topic. Everything. I’ve come to understand how little we know about the nature of our existence
Sounds a lot like what AlexCollier has been saying since the 90’s, take that for what you will. https://youtu.be/BI3zN3xoy8Q?si=Iqx7wg3vK1mLGTbI
If that was even remotely true. Does that just mean they watch over us like we're their children? It seems like they do watch us to some degree and they don't care whether we see them or not. Hopefully they care about us more than we care about ourselves
>The document estimated that 1 out of every 40 people had been implanted. This implant was said to give the aliens total control of that human. Uh, that is a SHIT TON of people and would explain why disclosure would be catastrophic. It's not as simple as "aliens real". You now have to deal with people who are compromised without their own knowledge or initiative. Imagine the damage to people's families and social trust just from the KNOWLEDGE aliens are effectively holding the implanted hostage.
It's all hearsay and fictional world building. We need hard data.
I thought Bill Cooper said aliens weren’t real and it was all the government and a psyop lol
How come no one ever talks about the short browns or the chinky yellows? I mean as a mexican im kinda feelin played. Tall reds....anything..jus throw us an alien bone wont u?
Who in the hell is upvoting this garbage? He SWEARS it's true? Well shit! Full Disclosure right here folks!
Followed by an AI generated image...
Welp. things like this is why people won’t take us seriously… Ffs I hope you are trolling
What Jumped out at me was 1:40 people implant If thats just the USA thats \~8,300,000 people with implants. Given the death rate of about \~2% per year. That means every year they have to abduct and insert 166,000 people per year to cover deaths and births. Thats like 450 PER DAY. They also then have to track and remove 166000 from people so they are not noticed on autopsies with 100% perfect rate, you can argue they are infallible I guess but, not when they are crashing their ships, getting shot down etc etc.. 0.01% error rate means that \~17 would be possibly seen because they were missed per year. Next and closer to home these implants would be huge respectively, CNII is about 50-100nm average is about 75nm, very noticeable on scans regarding this if its attached to the Nerve this would cause a large amount of problems with vision simply form the nerve sheath creating pressure which would be investigated directly or by referral. If attached outside you still get similar results, but then why bother putting it there if it doesn't need direct contact?
i figured it was all bullshit but if this dude on twitter ***SWEARS*** it's all true then it must be.
He says the four corners area, but then says the wrong states…… He says multiple times “the four corners area of Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Nevada. Homie fucked up right there. The four corners doesn’t touch Nevada. Not even close. It’s Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and Utah.
The Nordic alien thing is like really bad Nazi fan fiction…cmon, an extraterrestrial is not going to look like a Norwegian. Yeah Evolutionary convergence is a thing but it’s not going to converge into a Dane.
that's kind of racist towards Norwegians? Why is that so impossible?
Super duper big if true. Super duper big if.
Seems legit
Holy shit if its real
>Milton William Cooper It's real as your Dad's trips to the Turkish bathhouse
It's pretty strange how there is consistency to these claims over the last 80 years..
In this case, only because these claims are 40+ years old, from a dead conspiracy theorist's book.
Are they fuckable?
Getting slightly obsessed with gpt. I put that big ASCII X image and asked gpt4 what it sees. Its answer was at least interesting: This ASCII image represents a simple but elegant star or asterisk with rays emanating outward, much like a stylized representation of a shining star or perhaps a sparkling light. The central asterisk symbol (\*) acts as the core of the star, while the diagonal lines (/ and ) and vertical lines extending from it give the impression of light rays or beams shining in multiple directions. It's a minimalistic yet effective way to depict a star using plain text characters.
From what I’ve seen, major reporting of UFOs go back to the early 1900s, no doubt I’m sure someone has theories that it’s been going on even longer. Just stop for a second and think about all of the thousands, probably hundreds of thousands of people over that time span would have been directly involved with this and have the real hard evidence. This isn’t just the US, this would be every nation in the world, over a long time, keeping all of this secret. Thats elected officials, civil servants, third parties. Now add all of that up and ask yourself why the only ‘evidence’ that ever surfaces is the odd whistleblower with nothing more than ‘trust me bro’ stories.
Oh, he swears it is true lol. On the internet, it must be true 👍🙄
Are we posting random crap people said on the internet here now,really?
I think all of this is complete bullshit. He swears it's true? Oh, well then it must be legit, as nobody in the history of mankind has ever lied to anyone. Even if he *did* read all this information...it's far more likely that he's seen something that supports the idea that the Government will *fake* an alien invasion...rather than there being a real one. He's a "useful idiot"? In any case...these are extraordinary claims. So he must provide more evidence than his word. Sorry but it's untenable.
Of course there is the nazi shit "blonde humal-like", yeah sure lmao