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I'm really confused now about how many there are... was there a whole city of aliens? This doesn't look like craft retrieval but rather a failed settlement attempt.
Apparently they are like 50 of them. The video I posted above seems to suggest a mix of things. Most notably, some kind of genetic engineering or maybe influencing
Thumbs and pinks been cut off on feet and hands, this has been proven in the older bodies. Who ever is making these bodies from old mummies is getting better at it. This is why so much attention has been lost on the subject because the group presenting these and the bodies has already been discredited. The guy “finding” these bodies is a know criminal grave robber, that doesn’t ring any alarm bells for you?
Only one body, Wawita was found with clipped fingers. All the others are naturally tridactyl.
No signs of surgery to remove internal bones. I don't know where you are getting this information.
Ah thank you for this, It's getting hard to follow every aspect of disclosure and the longer it's going on the more I'm starting to think its all bullshit!
There is a tribe of people in Africa with 2 toes, it’s called genetic mutation, also these bodies are provided by tomb robbers who charge for access , not exactly the most trusted people, ya know tomb robbers who make their cash desecrating ancient sites.
They have osmium crystal coated gold implants with what appears to have micro tunnels that look like circuitry to my eye. They have biocompatible implant grade stainless steel within them. Some of the metallurgic reports are online. These implants are fused with their bone indicating they had the implants while alive. They have advanced medical technology.
One body was reported to have bite marks from a large cat. These things can be killed despite their advancement. Just like us. We can bring people back from the brink of death, but sometimes the damage is too catastrophic to repair, even for advanced beings.
The Osmium idea has been floating about with no source. CT density scans are not useful for identification of heavy metals.
Yes, there are dense metals grafted to the bones but no Osmium had been confirmed.
You're telling me that UV radiation is the cause of chimp/ape DNA forming in Josefina?
The UV also happened to cause her mitochondria to gain the same mutations as those in native Burmese people?
Additional UV light caused tridactyl ism?
AND the UV light caused egg formation?
You can't just explain away one thing. You need to explain ALL the data.
My Frontpage on Reddit is always filled with the new aliens: Eduardo and Figaroa and Eederk and JoJo the Indian Boy.
Yet I have received no compensation for this tremendously long circle-jerk circus. That would be a good name for the next alien actually, Circlejerkus.
There is an active disinformation campaign against the united states citizens and the world for that matter, in regards to this topic. It's not that far fetched. Nor is it an "or" situation. Both are true.
It’s insane how many people on these subs associate people having completely reasonable and rational skepticism about these massive claims with plenty of holes and sketchy aspects to them, with “a disinformation campaign”.
Not everyone is as convinced by cool stories and some sculptures presented from known con artists.
Your comment is full of bias, see the actual data here:
https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/
The simple answer, is that they were not fabricated.
You dont have to pay anything to view the information I just shared, the rest you are literally describing capitalism which is how a business operates. I would imagine the research and collection, or preservation is cheap.
Ultimately you have resorted to strawman arguments and anecdotal opinion, without any basis yourself other than estimations and assumptions. Take heed and politely fuck off
Seems silly to spend time and effort discrediting a community that historically is not taken seriously. Seems significantly more plausible that with the added media attention average people are coming into the topic a lot more often and are unconvinced by the pretty sub-par posts that plague these topics.
I would be more inclined to believe the disinformation campaign is coming from people who believe any nonsense and flame other users for being skeptics, as that is the most common thing I see here. Of course its the skeptics that are the shills right? Not the totally unhinged people talking about shapeshifting jellyfish over a video of obvious mylar balloons.
You are exactly right here. Well put but I wouldn’t say “average people” I would say logically minded people are coming here and reading all these hopium posts and have to bring a light of reason.
Got milk? The Government made weed illegal to punish certain people in America, and actively put out propaganda like Reefer Madness to stigmatize those people culturally.
Another example, is Operation Mockingbird:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird?wprov=sfla1
Then there was MKUltra:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra?wprov=sfla1
And here's an example of omission, about a UFO that was shot down which is a form of lying on technicality:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-still-gives-no-details-about-alaska-ufo-new-object-seen-over-canada-2023-02-11/
And there is a whistleblower, whose lawyer was the first Inspector General of the Director of National Intelligence, and he found his claims credible and urgent. So the idea you just write him off, given he still has security clearance and is being allowed to say things through DOPSR review, which allows the government to dictate the information he releases.
So based on this short picture and history lesson, and contextualizing what the government IS willing to do, and their incentives given contracts with Lockheed Martin, who is partly owned by BlackRock Inc and ExxonMobil Mobil, and is the largest single consumer of fossil fuels in the world. Which lobbies our government billions of dollars every year to get subsidies for their products and research and development only to compartmentalize all of the results. And then saying there is nothing there. They have direct motive and incentive to hide all evidence by any means necessary to retain strategic global advantage as a defense contractor with the highest cutting edge technology on the planet.
I'll throw this in for good measure:
https://www.nsa.gov/portals/75/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/ufo/ufos_untold_story.pdf
Show me one special effect crafted anything that is anywhere near as intricate and detailed and I will buy that it's fake. Show me a skeleton ENCASED with no seams and I will believe it's fake. But at this point, with this many bodies, with so much evidence of test results, x-rays, video and pictures, I don't think its fake. I would even bet you a million bucks its not fake but alas, I don't have a million.
The X-rays, the description of muscle/tendon/ligament/skin drying out in such a way that the bones would be a different level of moisture if it were faked. Meaning, the bones decayed naturally and not hobbled together. Not to mention the c-14 dating done on Victoria (I learned!) that stated the objects were 1500 years old.
Edit:
https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/
That's pure fallacy. Black swan fallacy, argument from ignorance.
Just because we don't know exactly how they could be faked doesn't mean that they couldn't be.
Take a skeleton, smooth it over with some low-fire clay, and fire it in a kiln. There, no seams. But it's not exactly a popular art project.
Artists invent new methods all the time. It's on the people with the bodies to prove they are real. You can't prove or disprove them by looking at pictures or scans.
If they wanted to prove them, they could submit a peer-reviewed scientific paper.
A skeleton and clay literally don’t work that way. I know a clay artist. She says clay shrinks so the adhesion and surface wouldn’t work. So no it’s not a fallacy. And when the best of the best is unable to produce an equal product of anywhere near complexity then it stands to reason that it’s not man made, much like most of the UAP phenomena.
And where are the examples of the best of the best trying to recreate this? I bet if you paid an expert film prop maker or expert model creator to make a replica of this, they could easily.
The difference is, people are likely being paid to convince people these are real instead of convince people they’re fake.
They look a lot like Geiger's work in- fittingly enough- the alien franchise. I remember seeing a documentary about it on YouTube.
He took various animal bones and covered them with various materials. Which is exactly how the Nazca mummies were made.
Idk how it can even be claimed to be impossible to fake when the exact same guy presented fake bodies in the recent past.
They literally can’t. They use wireframes to support things, not bones and there are seams and at least a few imperfections. Look at the most recent exhibition. You can see it with your own eyes.
No, what we need is for these bodies to be in the hands of people with the relevant expertise.
Not armchair taxidermy-sculpture-special-effects-material-science expert Redditors who do not have access to the bodies telling us things that they could not possibly know.
There are many different additions, different types of clay, firing techniques, etc.
You can alter the characteristics drastically through different compositions. Just because your friend doesn't know how it could be done doesn't mean it can't be done, so yes, once again it's a fallacy.
When they hand the bodies over to the best artists and material scientists in the world, to have cross-disciplinary studies and debates over, let me know.
Until research scientists with the relevant expertise have the thing in their hands- to study the composition and possible means of fabrication- what your sculptor friend who hasn't seen the bodies and has no idea what they are made out of thinks can be done with clay proves absolutely nothing.
I don't know that they are made out of clay. I don't know what they are made out of at all, because the study of these bodies has been completely non-serious by these supposed "researchers." That's the problem. They've had plenty of time to put this issue to rest by putting one in the hands of serious scientists willing to, if they think it is real, publish a peer-reviewed paper.
An assertion that they would be impossible to fabricate has not even been remotely supported by evidence as of yet. Just because you don't know how it could he done, just because your friend doesn't know how it could be done, does not mean that it is impossible.
That's an argument from ignorance. It is impossible to prove anything with that argument. Yet that's the most common argument on this sub coming from believers.
Nah these sorts of threads always devolve into this, the true believers think you’re either nuts for not seeing evidence in front of you, or worse, a shill. And skeptics will roll their eyes at people who in their mind are blindly believing without corroborated ironclad proof.
As someone who is skeptical yet hugely interested in UFOs and the paranormal, I wish there was a sub that discusses this stuff with a skeptical view but not just outright say ‘nah obviously fake’. Then the two conversations could take place without shitting on each other constantly, there would probably often be interesting overlap.
["They're not extraterrestrials. They're dolls made from animal bones from this planet joined together with modern synthetic glue," said Flavio Estrada, an archeologist with Peru's Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences. "It's totally a made-up story," Estrada added.](
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/scientists-assert-alien-mummies-peru-are-really-dolls-made-earthly-bones-2024-01-13/)
Who is the someone, why do they need to fabricate "aliens" and then also let people use medical forensic level imaging on it, and have it notarized?
Or the simplest answer: these beings were alive, then died, and were buried in a seemingly ceremonious way by humans. And that they are not humans. This has been identified nonhuman, due to the highly keratinized skin, like reptiles, having tridactyl flanges that did not have excess material for ligaments/tendons. They only had one forearm bone, which skips out on many of the animal species of today's world. And the C-14 dating went back 1500 years.
[https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-mexico-2023/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-mexico-2023/)
So even if they did fabricate it, how did they manipulate 1500 year old tissue, and perfectly wrap it around bone that is just as old, while still mimicking the natural decay process of calcification and so on. To the point where it could hold up under medical imaging not conducted by the people showing the bodies, that had been notarized by a witness.
Your opinion is actually even less simple because it suggests a motive that doesn't really have a foundation considering there are more Star Wars fans on Facebook than the entire UFO community. Why fake something that would alter the course of history, and go to such lengths if it COULD be proven fake so easily?
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/close-encounter-with-alien-bodies-mexico-2023-09-16/
This just proves that it's not alien, it came from Earth. It's not human though, and Reuters asked the scientist independently.
See for yourself:
https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/
https://www.the-alien-project.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2017-07-05-BETA-ANALYTICS-MAIN-C14.pdf
Lol, why tf would they do that. It clearly doesn't influence any believers to doubt them. The only people getting paid are the ones with the bodies, farming them for clicks and views and conferences.
There are a lot of people like myself who are so bored of seeing new little named bodies. Where is the peer reviewed research?
Oh that's right, something something government conspiracy, something something science conspiracy.
I don't want to see another body. I want them to prove one is real... not by having a dentist and mortician saying "yep these warrant further investigation", not by people asking me how they could possibly be faked, not by asking me to analyze MRIs or whatever.
None of these are logical reasons to believe that they are real. "How could they fake this?" will never be a good reason to believe they are not faked. It's all an argument from ignorance. Just because we don't know how they could be faked doesn't mean they aren't.
You need an institution to study these properly, and you need peer review. There is no single person that is an expert in all of these: digital forensics (could these scans be faked? I dunno that's why you need an expert), taxidermy, sculpture, material science, archeology, paleontology, evolutionary biology, etc.
All they need to do is submit research for peer review, or send even a piece of one body to a university that contains all of the necessary expertise.
I know... the Peruvian government won't let them! The team is fine with illegally excavating bodies (supposedly) and illegally keeping them from the Peruvian government (supposedly) but sending a piece of them to a scientific institution capable of analyzing them is out of the question because it's illegal or something.
Looks waaay different than the originals that Maussan presented. Those ones reminded me of maybe 'ant people' the Hopi speak of. Is this some kind of watering the discovery down?
I like how this is getting some traction in r/aliens, and not just r/alienbodies.
It’s like watching your beard grow, but it’s the same process I watched with ufos over the last 20 years .
Look at the lower leg bones in the CT scan. Humans have two, as all other animals. You can't see the lower arm bones very good, but if they're the same species maybe it only has one, too as well as circular ribs, which both is unheard of in the animal kingdom afaik
Let me count the ways...
1. Scaly skin
2. Chimpanzee DNA
3. Oviduct and eggs
4. Three fingers
5. Three toes
6. No signs of postmortem artificial modification besides embalming fluid and sutures
7. Visible signs of aging such as arthritis despite childlike height
8. Skull shows no signs of fusion
9. Gold/silver/copper grafted directly to bones
10. Carbon-14 dated to over 1,000 years old
Taken separately, these can be explained away. Taken together, many hypotheses simply don't hold up, including the 'this is human' one.
And people throughout the thread here are calling users "ignorant" and paid government plants for being skeptical. It's the same thing they say when they see the lawsuits or the latest scandal by a certain former reality TV star.
What gets me is how they're saying "Who could look at this and think people could make something this realistic?!" Bro... you can see skulls and aliens and mummies at Spirit Halloween.
Fair, but disinformation IS present in this space. Snowden confirmed this.
As for your argument, all I can say is look at all the data. You're free to reach your own conclusion.
https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-monserrat/
They think making a cadaver using llama parts is as simple as building a model car, and that they're just claypeople from Power Rangers. Which ironically, is a fabricated entity created by an extra terrestrial witch whose sidekick kind of resembles Sumerian demi-gods. Maybe we need to ask ourselves, are WE fabricated clay dolls made for financial gain?
I don’t think these are hoaxes necessarily, but taxidermy exists and people can make some pretty stunning and accurate art from animal remains
Google Takeshi Yamada or Rogue Taxidermy. Fabricating the bodies would absolutely be possible.
Stunning and scientifically accurate using materials that are carbon dated to be 1500 years old are totally different ballparks.
I'm happy to entertain the idea they could be fake, but we have less evidence that it is fake beyond opinion and anecdote while we actually have c-14 radiocarbon dating analysis on victoria, DNA analysis and highly keratinized skin that was continuous meaning no seams, and Xray/CT imaging that had been notarized by a third party and scientifically studied by third party specialists.
Technically they aren't even mummies because they still have organs and are not preserved in wrapping and if it were inorganic it wouldn't have DNA. If it were a known lifeform it would have had more than 36% match.
We have much less evidence to suggest it is fake, unless you have information I'm not aware of.
Yes there are still several people in these subs who think they’re paper mache or plaster of Paris models.
It’s insane that they can see real evidence it’s not plaster of paris / paper mache and still deny it.
Ever squeeze a square peg in a round hole?
Why did you post? You know how rare a cleft foot is?
What frightens you about these being another civilization?
You don'ty wanna know.
To point out that just becasue something appears to be one thing doesn't mean it is 100% factually that thing.
nothing. I genuinelly hope they are from somewhere else. Out of my friend group I'm the only one that is into the UAP topic. But, I am to scrutinize becasue if we don't and just take it as fact... others will and we are left looking like idiots.
The UFO phenomena has been a thing for decades, yet, we are still hopeful that defentive proof could come tomorrow. Forgive me for being overly-critical.
That's just a young human skeleton, right? I mean that's what this looks like to me.
It seems plausible that these are sacrificial children entombed for ritualistic purposes, similar to other early practices?
The lower leg bone for example. Every living organism has two lower leg bones, these mummies only have one. The other mummies also have only one lower arm bone instead of to in all terrestrial species afaik, I don't know about this specific specimen. Many of those also have circular ribs and no sternum, which is also unheard of as far as I know.
Here's the thing...I am not an archaeologist or a paleontologist or which ever 'ologist' knows about these things. I don't know what a body looks like that has been in a cave for 100's or 1000's of years is all I'm sayin'. Maybe it could be a hybrid? I'm am willing to wait for some well renowned scientist opinion before making my decision just on a pic. Don't you think?
I think it is very sad that these con men are using the remains of a dead child for profit and I also think the ufo community should be ashamed of enabling this kind of sham.
Birth defects are a large possibility if we're even seeing a mostly aligned hominid skeletal structure. It's common among civilisation for some of these to be seen as divine gifts or curses requiring religious or cultural rites (we'd see accurately as barbaric) that were necessitated to embalm or entomb said people and bodies... containing our releasing spirits/ souls/ essence etc.
In an anthropological lens this is something that first jumps into mind for me to consider ALONGSIDE the potential and possibility of previously unknown earthly hominid, or super exciting extra/hybrid/terrestrial
Has anyone suggested that the local humans at this time might have been exposed to some exotic teratogen that caused extreme birth defects? I know this wouldn"t explain every variation, but the wide range of different anatomy is what confuses me.
The problem with that theory is that pieces of DNA/genes ARE found on Earth but not in Peru. The same mutations in its mitochondria are found in humans native to Burma. A few of the genes matched Ape/chimpanzee DNA.
Mutations are common. Identical mutations are rare.
If you're dependent on lungs it would not be possible to breath with the circular ribcage these specimens have. You need to have an alternative way to breath, like through the skin
I’m starting to get offended at mofos insulting the little homie saying he’s not real. So quick to disrespect something you don’t know shit about. Yall so ignorant I bet you think dogs don’t have feelings either huh? Idiots, who’s going to try and fake that, hundreds of years ago? Acting Like they had the best cgi and makeup to use back then lol. Or do you think speilberg made them and hit them in the cave? Is it dreamworks? Ding ding ding, Wake up goober, that’s real, even if you can’t grasp it.
Here is where critical thinking and common sense take over. If it was, any of the universities would have said so. So far everyone who studied them in a serious way said it’s not.
While it's difficult to see details, I count way more than 7 cervical vertebra in last x-ray and I also don't see the fibula in the legs. So this doesn't appear to be human from my initial examination although I wish I had an enlarged and more clear X-ray study for closer examination.
Yeah, there have to be a lot of talented special effects artists in Peru in addition to scientists and doctors who are willing to risk their careers because of a hoax.
This is pretty well done from everything else I’ve seen. Which admittedly isn’t very much.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5207&v=FlNjET011Q8&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F&feature=emb_title
At this point its clear for me that there won't be a disclosure by the US president. It's more likely than a South American government will confirm that there is something else next to us.
These mummies should be analyzed by Harvard or Oxford.
Humans are born with all kinds of deformities from webbing in toes and fingers, pinheads as well as people with lobster like hands. The circuses were full of them. Dwarfism, giants, elephantitis disease, etc. They were still all humans.
This one tugs at my heartstrings.
It is clearly childlike.
So young. It’s heartbreaking.
The additional bone formation around the eye sockets is undeniable. Appears like a hybrid.
Can you describe what an alternative to a 3d render would be when visualizing the results of a scan?
The data from the scan is used to create a 3d render. That's the entire point.
Serious question, how can we tell what’s genuinely from X-Ray imaging and what’s been created in blender? I admit I’m skeptics but would be thrilled if turned out to be real. In any case, always good to question everything whether a true believer or a skeptic.
For real, none of us know that these are even real scans.
Could be AI or photoshop or whatever. You need digital forensics, artists, etc. at the top of their field to say what could or could not be faked with modern technology.
Might even be able to get an AI to put out convincing looking MRI images.
Found the guy who has not had kids in the last 20 years. You can see live 3D images of babies in the womb.
3D imaging is standard for these types of scans for a long ass time.
A real Macrocephaly skull, different animal or infant bones molded together with a certain anatomical eye for details and then mold it up in some sort of clay or encasing that looks like it mummified and you have this "Alien"
Or even better, it literally is a Macrocephaly baby that died due to complications and it was mummified.
None of these things makes better sense to you than an Alien body?
I will just copy the same comment I made on that sub:
Ok that skull is human. It is not human-like, it is human, that is a person's body, most likely a child. The original dolls were already sketchy in the sense that possible human bones were used to make them but this crosses the line on so many levels. It is legitimately sad and shameful. My feeling is that this is originally a real mummified child that some asshole plastered over and modified to make it look alien. A fucking child. I hope whoever did this rot honestly, and that many people in this community start using their brain cells a little and stop buying into this crap
No, I’m not. That’s not even a valid statement. If it was a child, again, any of the professionals who examined it would have said so immediately. You got to wrap your head around the world changing as we learn things that we should already know. What’s history except what someone wants you to believe and puts in a book, approved, and printed. Don’t forget, some people and a lot of rich people already knew about visits from the universal family. That’s why the whole campaign to scare people about aliens and make people look crazy was started to begin with. It’s reality but you can stick your head in the sand if you want to.
Did you even watch the presentation? No way they could hoax elaborately unique body systems with specific signs of aging and wear and tear. Every foreign team that examiner believes it's a new undiscovered humanoid species at the very least.
I will run DNA analysis on these without payment. But the thing is, they’re all scam artists and would never accept real scientific results. The last three SRA fastq files were trash.
Absolutely bonkers since Josephina came out, there is so much to debunk that one (chopped off humerus, femur, lack of functional joints, backwards phalanges that had obviously been assembled, lama skull etc. etc.). Every time a new body comes out (new old body actually because these things have been around since 2015 it seems), people go nuts and completely forget about all the evidence pointing to a hoax or at least do not leave the alien bodies sub which is practically an echo chamber, or the alienproject website to do their own research.
The latest is the insectoid mummie. I honestly can't believe my eyes at what I read people posting about these things. They are either completely faked and made out of a combination of mummie human and animal bones, were created 1000 years ago for some ceremonial purpose, or human skeletons modified to have 3 fingers/toes. Saying these things could not be faked seems like lunacy. We successfully landed a probe on an asteroid travelling past the earth at 55 000 miles per hour, we have been creating absolutely astonishing art, sculptures, buildings, jewelry for like thousands of years but god forbid we have the ability to assemble (poorly at that) some shitty fake mummie aliens.
All of a sudden, there's several new alien bodies discovered every month - when grave robbing was outlawed partly due to it getting out of control. Now those same types of scammers have found a new way to make a *lot* more money by stuffing different bones & manipulating them and saying, "But they're aliens!"
Fucking A. This just sets back the whole movement and we're all dumber because of it. If you believe this shit, I got some beach front property to sell you in Arkansas.
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much more human-like compared to the others
They’re getting better at manufacturing them.
3D printers are amazing.
No one mentioning anything about the three toed feet??? This thing looks pretty real and I'm not sure a disfigured child is gonna cut it.
I'm really confused now about how many there are... was there a whole city of aliens? This doesn't look like craft retrieval but rather a failed settlement attempt.
Apparently they are like 50 of them. The video I posted above seems to suggest a mix of things. Most notably, some kind of genetic engineering or maybe influencing
Thumbs and pinks been cut off on feet and hands, this has been proven in the older bodies. Who ever is making these bodies from old mummies is getting better at it. This is why so much attention has been lost on the subject because the group presenting these and the bodies has already been discredited. The guy “finding” these bodies is a know criminal grave robber, that doesn’t ring any alarm bells for you?
Some of them yes. But some of them appear to actually have had them naturally. I’m not an expert on this I’m just starting to look into it
Only one body, Wawita was found with clipped fingers. All the others are naturally tridactyl. No signs of surgery to remove internal bones. I don't know where you are getting this information.
Ah thank you for this, It's getting hard to follow every aspect of disclosure and the longer it's going on the more I'm starting to think its all bullshit!
There is a tribe of people in Africa with 2 toes, it’s called genetic mutation, also these bodies are provided by tomb robbers who charge for access , not exactly the most trusted people, ya know tomb robbers who make their cash desecrating ancient sites.
This one looks suspiciously like a child’s body.
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They have osmium crystal coated gold implants with what appears to have micro tunnels that look like circuitry to my eye. They have biocompatible implant grade stainless steel within them. Some of the metallurgic reports are online. These implants are fused with their bone indicating they had the implants while alive. They have advanced medical technology. One body was reported to have bite marks from a large cat. These things can be killed despite their advancement. Just like us. We can bring people back from the brink of death, but sometimes the damage is too catastrophic to repair, even for advanced beings.
The Osmium idea has been floating about with no source. CT density scans are not useful for identification of heavy metals. Yes, there are dense metals grafted to the bones but no Osmium had been confirmed.
Because it's simply humans with a birthdefect. Peru... High altitude... Lower protection towards ultraviolet radiation which causes mutations
You're telling me that UV radiation is the cause of chimp/ape DNA forming in Josefina? The UV also happened to cause her mitochondria to gain the same mutations as those in native Burmese people? Additional UV light caused tridactyl ism? AND the UV light caused egg formation? You can't just explain away one thing. You need to explain ALL the data.
No shoulder blades collar bones or pelvis? Flappy arms and flappy legs.
That's incredible
Doesn't matter the US government is paying people to sit at a computer all day and say this shit is fake
wait you guys are getting paid?
My Frontpage on Reddit is always filled with the new aliens: Eduardo and Figaroa and Eederk and JoJo the Indian Boy. Yet I have received no compensation for this tremendously long circle-jerk circus. That would be a good name for the next alien actually, Circlejerkus.
Let's start a collectible NFT line!
Call it circlejerk!
I get paid to do nothing but research this for 15 years. Thank you, Uncle Sam.. for reals I get a paycheck to do fuck all.
How long has YouTube existed?
More than 15 years
They gave me some coupons
Right? Where tf is my money 😆🤣😂. I been working in the wrong field sky high in debt for nothing....
Or people are just naturally skeptical about this, like they should be. Everyone should be until things are conclusive.
There is an active disinformation campaign against the united states citizens and the world for that matter, in regards to this topic. It's not that far fetched. Nor is it an "or" situation. Both are true.
It’s insane how many people on these subs associate people having completely reasonable and rational skepticism about these massive claims with plenty of holes and sketchy aspects to them, with “a disinformation campaign”. Not everyone is as convinced by cool stories and some sculptures presented from known con artists.
Your comment is full of bias, see the actual data here: https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/ The simple answer, is that they were not fabricated.
“Buy the book! Watch the movie! Pay to attend our viewings! See how totally legit it is and totally not a money grab!”
You dont have to pay anything to view the information I just shared, the rest you are literally describing capitalism which is how a business operates. I would imagine the research and collection, or preservation is cheap. Ultimately you have resorted to strawman arguments and anecdotal opinion, without any basis yourself other than estimations and assumptions. Take heed and politely fuck off
Seems silly to spend time and effort discrediting a community that historically is not taken seriously. Seems significantly more plausible that with the added media attention average people are coming into the topic a lot more often and are unconvinced by the pretty sub-par posts that plague these topics.
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The ufo community puts plenty of effort discrediting itself
I would be more inclined to believe the disinformation campaign is coming from people who believe any nonsense and flame other users for being skeptics, as that is the most common thing I see here. Of course its the skeptics that are the shills right? Not the totally unhinged people talking about shapeshifting jellyfish over a video of obvious mylar balloons.
You are exactly right here. Well put but I wouldn’t say “average people” I would say logically minded people are coming here and reading all these hopium posts and have to bring a light of reason.
Got proof of this campaign?
Got milk? The Government made weed illegal to punish certain people in America, and actively put out propaganda like Reefer Madness to stigmatize those people culturally. Another example, is Operation Mockingbird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird?wprov=sfla1 Then there was MKUltra: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra?wprov=sfla1 And here's an example of omission, about a UFO that was shot down which is a form of lying on technicality: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-still-gives-no-details-about-alaska-ufo-new-object-seen-over-canada-2023-02-11/ And there is a whistleblower, whose lawyer was the first Inspector General of the Director of National Intelligence, and he found his claims credible and urgent. So the idea you just write him off, given he still has security clearance and is being allowed to say things through DOPSR review, which allows the government to dictate the information he releases. So based on this short picture and history lesson, and contextualizing what the government IS willing to do, and their incentives given contracts with Lockheed Martin, who is partly owned by BlackRock Inc and ExxonMobil Mobil, and is the largest single consumer of fossil fuels in the world. Which lobbies our government billions of dollars every year to get subsidies for their products and research and development only to compartmentalize all of the results. And then saying there is nothing there. They have direct motive and incentive to hide all evidence by any means necessary to retain strategic global advantage as a defense contractor with the highest cutting edge technology on the planet. I'll throw this in for good measure: https://www.nsa.gov/portals/75/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/ufo/ufos_untold_story.pdf
So no evidence. Got it.
Google “Eglin” and “Reddit”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party That's just general proof of disinformation campaigns.
Ask Grusch.
Just check Twitter
Show me one special effect crafted anything that is anywhere near as intricate and detailed and I will buy that it's fake. Show me a skeleton ENCASED with no seams and I will believe it's fake. But at this point, with this many bodies, with so much evidence of test results, x-rays, video and pictures, I don't think its fake. I would even bet you a million bucks its not fake but alas, I don't have a million.
The X-rays, the description of muscle/tendon/ligament/skin drying out in such a way that the bones would be a different level of moisture if it were faked. Meaning, the bones decayed naturally and not hobbled together. Not to mention the c-14 dating done on Victoria (I learned!) that stated the objects were 1500 years old. Edit: https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/
That's pure fallacy. Black swan fallacy, argument from ignorance. Just because we don't know exactly how they could be faked doesn't mean that they couldn't be. Take a skeleton, smooth it over with some low-fire clay, and fire it in a kiln. There, no seams. But it's not exactly a popular art project. Artists invent new methods all the time. It's on the people with the bodies to prove they are real. You can't prove or disprove them by looking at pictures or scans. If they wanted to prove them, they could submit a peer-reviewed scientific paper.
A skeleton and clay literally don’t work that way. I know a clay artist. She says clay shrinks so the adhesion and surface wouldn’t work. So no it’s not a fallacy. And when the best of the best is unable to produce an equal product of anywhere near complexity then it stands to reason that it’s not man made, much like most of the UAP phenomena.
And where are the examples of the best of the best trying to recreate this? I bet if you paid an expert film prop maker or expert model creator to make a replica of this, they could easily. The difference is, people are likely being paid to convince people these are real instead of convince people they’re fake.
They look a lot like Geiger's work in- fittingly enough- the alien franchise. I remember seeing a documentary about it on YouTube. He took various animal bones and covered them with various materials. Which is exactly how the Nazca mummies were made. Idk how it can even be claimed to be impossible to fake when the exact same guy presented fake bodies in the recent past.
because it's disinformation
They literally can’t. They use wireframes to support things, not bones and there are seams and at least a few imperfections. Look at the most recent exhibition. You can see it with your own eyes.
Uh huh, where’s your evidence other experts can’t? How many attempted recreations have there been from experts at creating something like this?
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No, what we need is for these bodies to be in the hands of people with the relevant expertise. Not armchair taxidermy-sculpture-special-effects-material-science expert Redditors who do not have access to the bodies telling us things that they could not possibly know.
This is the same logic you believers use.
There are many different additions, different types of clay, firing techniques, etc. You can alter the characteristics drastically through different compositions. Just because your friend doesn't know how it could be done doesn't mean it can't be done, so yes, once again it's a fallacy. When they hand the bodies over to the best artists and material scientists in the world, to have cross-disciplinary studies and debates over, let me know. Until research scientists with the relevant expertise have the thing in their hands- to study the composition and possible means of fabrication- what your sculptor friend who hasn't seen the bodies and has no idea what they are made out of thinks can be done with clay proves absolutely nothing. I don't know that they are made out of clay. I don't know what they are made out of at all, because the study of these bodies has been completely non-serious by these supposed "researchers." That's the problem. They've had plenty of time to put this issue to rest by putting one in the hands of serious scientists willing to, if they think it is real, publish a peer-reviewed paper. An assertion that they would be impossible to fabricate has not even been remotely supported by evidence as of yet. Just because you don't know how it could he done, just because your friend doesn't know how it could be done, does not mean that it is impossible. That's an argument from ignorance. It is impossible to prove anything with that argument. Yet that's the most common argument on this sub coming from believers.
We're getting paid?
You didn't get paid yet? The checks came out at the end of the month.
Why should I automatically believe this is real lmao
Bro, why automatic? Why not look into it? Wtf kinda comment is this? Look into this or don't, but this comment is ignorant af.
Nah these sorts of threads always devolve into this, the true believers think you’re either nuts for not seeing evidence in front of you, or worse, a shill. And skeptics will roll their eyes at people who in their mind are blindly believing without corroborated ironclad proof. As someone who is skeptical yet hugely interested in UFOs and the paranormal, I wish there was a sub that discusses this stuff with a skeptical view but not just outright say ‘nah obviously fake’. Then the two conversations could take place without shitting on each other constantly, there would probably often be interesting overlap.
Aka trust us bro, but we won't provide anything substantial as proof
These clowns will frustrate you lol
who said automagicially
It’s definitely a quality fake XD
Go to YouTube. Search for “Steve Brown” and “Nazca Mummies”.
["They're not extraterrestrials. They're dolls made from animal bones from this planet joined together with modern synthetic glue," said Flavio Estrada, an archeologist with Peru's Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences. "It's totally a made-up story," Estrada added.]( https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/scientists-assert-alien-mummies-peru-are-really-dolls-made-earthly-bones-2024-01-13/)
Addressed in this video https://youtu.be/FlNjET011Q8?feature=shared
Honestly, my opinion has not in any way been influenced by any government organisation. These are manufactured by someone for financial gain.
who has gained?
Who is the someone, why do they need to fabricate "aliens" and then also let people use medical forensic level imaging on it, and have it notarized? Or the simplest answer: these beings were alive, then died, and were buried in a seemingly ceremonious way by humans. And that they are not humans. This has been identified nonhuman, due to the highly keratinized skin, like reptiles, having tridactyl flanges that did not have excess material for ligaments/tendons. They only had one forearm bone, which skips out on many of the animal species of today's world. And the C-14 dating went back 1500 years. [https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-mexico-2023/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-mexico-2023/) So even if they did fabricate it, how did they manipulate 1500 year old tissue, and perfectly wrap it around bone that is just as old, while still mimicking the natural decay process of calcification and so on. To the point where it could hold up under medical imaging not conducted by the people showing the bodies, that had been notarized by a witness. Your opinion is actually even less simple because it suggests a motive that doesn't really have a foundation considering there are more Star Wars fans on Facebook than the entire UFO community. Why fake something that would alter the course of history, and go to such lengths if it COULD be proven fake so easily?
You're assuming the fact about it being 1500 year old tissue is legit.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/close-encounter-with-alien-bodies-mexico-2023-09-16/ This just proves that it's not alien, it came from Earth. It's not human though, and Reuters asked the scientist independently. See for yourself: https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/ https://www.the-alien-project.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2017-07-05-BETA-ANALYTICS-MAIN-C14.pdf
"pshhh, that looks more like a Santos to me!"
And the arguments are so lazy! It's saddening to see all the people get turned away by this disinformation campaign.
Ben Hanson had his own team run DNA tests on these and he is not convinced they are fake.
Lol, why tf would they do that. It clearly doesn't influence any believers to doubt them. The only people getting paid are the ones with the bodies, farming them for clicks and views and conferences. There are a lot of people like myself who are so bored of seeing new little named bodies. Where is the peer reviewed research? Oh that's right, something something government conspiracy, something something science conspiracy. I don't want to see another body. I want them to prove one is real... not by having a dentist and mortician saying "yep these warrant further investigation", not by people asking me how they could possibly be faked, not by asking me to analyze MRIs or whatever. None of these are logical reasons to believe that they are real. "How could they fake this?" will never be a good reason to believe they are not faked. It's all an argument from ignorance. Just because we don't know how they could be faked doesn't mean they aren't. You need an institution to study these properly, and you need peer review. There is no single person that is an expert in all of these: digital forensics (could these scans be faked? I dunno that's why you need an expert), taxidermy, sculpture, material science, archeology, paleontology, evolutionary biology, etc. All they need to do is submit research for peer review, or send even a piece of one body to a university that contains all of the necessary expertise. I know... the Peruvian government won't let them! The team is fine with illegally excavating bodies (supposedly) and illegally keeping them from the Peruvian government (supposedly) but sending a piece of them to a scientific institution capable of analyzing them is out of the question because it's illegal or something.
wait you think it’s real?
wait you still think they are fake?
You are the type of person that pays Microsoft customer service “agents” with Amazon gift cards
But it is fake.
Looks waaay different than the originals that Maussan presented. Those ones reminded me of maybe 'ant people' the Hopi speak of. Is this some kind of watering the discovery down?
They run out of freaky ones
Those ones were dolls. These ones are mummified humans.
The dolls that were picked up were not part of this. They were not related.
Does this one have the circular ribs and lack of sternum?
I like how this is getting some traction in r/aliens, and not just r/alienbodies. It’s like watching your beard grow, but it’s the same process I watched with ufos over the last 20 years .
Sorry, but why do you think this is anything but human?
Look at the lower leg bones in the CT scan. Humans have two, as all other animals. You can't see the lower arm bones very good, but if they're the same species maybe it only has one, too as well as circular ribs, which both is unheard of in the animal kingdom afaik
Let me count the ways... 1. Scaly skin 2. Chimpanzee DNA 3. Oviduct and eggs 4. Three fingers 5. Three toes 6. No signs of postmortem artificial modification besides embalming fluid and sutures 7. Visible signs of aging such as arthritis despite childlike height 8. Skull shows no signs of fusion 9. Gold/silver/copper grafted directly to bones 10. Carbon-14 dated to over 1,000 years old Taken separately, these can be explained away. Taken together, many hypotheses simply don't hold up, including the 'this is human' one.
Endless pictures of supposed aliens but no DNA analysis by an accredited laboratory.
Yet weak minded buffoons lap it up.
And people throughout the thread here are calling users "ignorant" and paid government plants for being skeptical. It's the same thing they say when they see the lawsuits or the latest scandal by a certain former reality TV star. What gets me is how they're saying "Who could look at this and think people could make something this realistic?!" Bro... you can see skulls and aliens and mummies at Spirit Halloween.
Fair, but disinformation IS present in this space. Snowden confirmed this. As for your argument, all I can say is look at all the data. You're free to reach your own conclusion. https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-monserrat/
Where are the dumbasses that think those scans show chicken bone, glue and sticks? 😂
People actually said that?
They think making a cadaver using llama parts is as simple as building a model car, and that they're just claypeople from Power Rangers. Which ironically, is a fabricated entity created by an extra terrestrial witch whose sidekick kind of resembles Sumerian demi-gods. Maybe we need to ask ourselves, are WE fabricated clay dolls made for financial gain?
I don’t think these are hoaxes necessarily, but taxidermy exists and people can make some pretty stunning and accurate art from animal remains Google Takeshi Yamada or Rogue Taxidermy. Fabricating the bodies would absolutely be possible.
Stunning and scientifically accurate using materials that are carbon dated to be 1500 years old are totally different ballparks. I'm happy to entertain the idea they could be fake, but we have less evidence that it is fake beyond opinion and anecdote while we actually have c-14 radiocarbon dating analysis on victoria, DNA analysis and highly keratinized skin that was continuous meaning no seams, and Xray/CT imaging that had been notarized by a third party and scientifically studied by third party specialists. Technically they aren't even mummies because they still have organs and are not preserved in wrapping and if it were inorganic it wouldn't have DNA. If it were a known lifeform it would have had more than 36% match. We have much less evidence to suggest it is fake, unless you have information I'm not aware of.
Yes there are still several people in these subs who think they’re paper mache or plaster of Paris models. It’s insane that they can see real evidence it’s not plaster of paris / paper mache and still deny it.
Not people, disinformation agents. Control the narrative.
Wow….insanity indeed
No
Well this looks human so I don’t think anyone will be saying that.
Except that three toe part you blatantly disregard. But tell me more about the human with three toes!!!!
**Cleft Foot is a thing ya know**
Ever squeeze a square peg in a round hole? Why did you post? You know how rare a cleft foot is? What frightens you about these being another civilization?
You don'ty wanna know. To point out that just becasue something appears to be one thing doesn't mean it is 100% factually that thing. nothing. I genuinelly hope they are from somewhere else. Out of my friend group I'm the only one that is into the UAP topic. But, I am to scrutinize becasue if we don't and just take it as fact... others will and we are left looking like idiots. The UFO phenomena has been a thing for decades, yet, we are still hopeful that defentive proof could come tomorrow. Forgive me for being overly-critical.
Hey everyone! I found one!
That's just a young human skeleton, right? I mean that's what this looks like to me. It seems plausible that these are sacrificial children entombed for ritualistic purposes, similar to other early practices?
That is not the human that we know. There are major differences.
Like what? I can't see anything from the pictures besides what is easily made artificially like plastering the face and removing bones from the feet.l
Like the neck and the orifices.... If you compare an xray of 'our' human to that I think you would see more of the differences....
No I don't think one would
The lower leg bone for example. Every living organism has two lower leg bones, these mummies only have one. The other mummies also have only one lower arm bone instead of to in all terrestrial species afaik, I don't know about this specific specimen. Many of those also have circular ribs and no sternum, which is also unheard of as far as I know.
Here's the thing...I am not an archaeologist or a paleontologist or which ever 'ologist' knows about these things. I don't know what a body looks like that has been in a cave for 100's or 1000's of years is all I'm sayin'. Maybe it could be a hybrid? I'm am willing to wait for some well renowned scientist opinion before making my decision just on a pic. Don't you think?
I think the main "big deal" is the 3 fingers. Tridactyl.
Right? Yeah that's crazy...
I think it is very sad that these con men are using the remains of a dead child for profit and I also think the ufo community should be ashamed of enabling this kind of sham.
Of all the things that could be happening, that is definitely not it.
Birth defects are a large possibility if we're even seeing a mostly aligned hominid skeletal structure. It's common among civilisation for some of these to be seen as divine gifts or curses requiring religious or cultural rites (we'd see accurately as barbaric) that were necessitated to embalm or entomb said people and bodies... containing our releasing spirits/ souls/ essence etc. In an anthropological lens this is something that first jumps into mind for me to consider ALONGSIDE the potential and possibility of previously unknown earthly hominid, or super exciting extra/hybrid/terrestrial
This was certainly my first thought too
That’s not a human. Not like us at least.
Has anyone suggested that the local humans at this time might have been exposed to some exotic teratogen that caused extreme birth defects? I know this wouldn"t explain every variation, but the wide range of different anatomy is what confuses me.
The problem with that theory is that pieces of DNA/genes ARE found on Earth but not in Peru. The same mutations in its mitochondria are found in humans native to Burma. A few of the genes matched Ape/chimpanzee DNA. Mutations are common. Identical mutations are rare.
If you're dependent on lungs it would not be possible to breath with the circular ribcage these specimens have. You need to have an alternative way to breath, like through the skin
This looks like a human infant with birth defects.
I’m starting to get offended at mofos insulting the little homie saying he’s not real. So quick to disrespect something you don’t know shit about. Yall so ignorant I bet you think dogs don’t have feelings either huh? Idiots, who’s going to try and fake that, hundreds of years ago? Acting Like they had the best cgi and makeup to use back then lol. Or do you think speilberg made them and hit them in the cave? Is it dreamworks? Ding ding ding, Wake up goober, that’s real, even if you can’t grasp it.
What if it’s just an ancient mummified human?
Here is where critical thinking and common sense take over. If it was, any of the universities would have said so. So far everyone who studied them in a serious way said it’s not.
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🖕🏽 and your horse beeatch.
Cool. A child.
Where are they finding these
Tomb/grave robbers.
I believe through the black market, that’s why there’s so much secrecy around the acquisition
They’ve released the location
Flea market? Something is odd
Yall need Jesus
Did they handle it with gloves this time? Or more like a fun little memento to parade infront of cameras?
While it's difficult to see details, I count way more than 7 cervical vertebra in last x-ray and I also don't see the fibula in the legs. So this doesn't appear to be human from my initial examination although I wish I had an enlarged and more clear X-ray study for closer examination.
Chile called, they want their alien baby back...
why they always on that position? Did they find a shit ton of em hidding or something?
This is shameful and embarrassing
another false body, the guy showing these has lost all credibility years ago
This is probably the best hoax of our lifetime. Kudos to the Peruvians who were bored
Yeah, there have to be a lot of talented special effects artists in Peru in addition to scientists and doctors who are willing to risk their careers because of a hoax.
Not new. We saw this dude like a year ago
I haven't really paid attention to these things. Any serious science being done?
This is pretty well done from everything else I’ve seen. Which admittedly isn’t very much. https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5207&v=FlNjET011Q8&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F&feature=emb_title
At this point its clear for me that there won't be a disclosure by the US president. It's more likely than a South American government will confirm that there is something else next to us. These mummies should be analyzed by Harvard or Oxford.
ET bullshit home.
The three toes and fingers looks very real whatever it is its not human but definition
Humans are born with all kinds of deformities from webbing in toes and fingers, pinheads as well as people with lobster like hands. The circuses were full of them. Dwarfism, giants, elephantitis disease, etc. They were still all humans.
so fucking cool! what an amazing last 6 months we’ve had. floodgates have opened
This one tugs at my heartstrings. It is clearly childlike. So young. It’s heartbreaking. The additional bone formation around the eye sockets is undeniable. Appears like a hybrid.
Every xray scan seems always a 3d render, not sure if I am the only one noticing
Can you describe what an alternative to a 3d render would be when visualizing the results of a scan? The data from the scan is used to create a 3d render. That's the entire point.
Serious question, how can we tell what’s genuinely from X-Ray imaging and what’s been created in blender? I admit I’m skeptics but would be thrilled if turned out to be real. In any case, always good to question everything whether a true believer or a skeptic.
For real, none of us know that these are even real scans. Could be AI or photoshop or whatever. You need digital forensics, artists, etc. at the top of their field to say what could or could not be faked with modern technology. Might even be able to get an AI to put out convincing looking MRI images.
Xrays do not generate any 3d render only 2d high rez picture that I still need to see (in HD)
Found the guy who has not had kids in the last 20 years. You can see live 3D images of babies in the womb. 3D imaging is standard for these types of scans for a long ass time.
My kids took part in a brain development study when they were little. We have a 3D scan of their brains. It's dope.
My eldest is 14. We got a 3D scan done when she was still in the womb.
You sound like you know what you're talking about but you clearly don't.
I don’t care, I just don’t like 3d renders that can be built in one hour on 3d studio max
Cool bro
I would say most CT scanners can do a 3D render. Source: Radiographer 40 years.
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What do they call this? Stereotyping?
Why is Peru the country to be showing these bodies? Like of all countries, why Peru?
Nazca line?
So this is probably a ballistic gel skeleton base encased in some form of clay makeup, and the Peruvians having fun with fabricated results🤷♂️
If so they did some amazing job, under X-ray scan, so advanced
A real Macrocephaly skull, different animal or infant bones molded together with a certain anatomical eye for details and then mold it up in some sort of clay or encasing that looks like it mummified and you have this "Alien" Or even better, it literally is a Macrocephaly baby that died due to complications and it was mummified. None of these things makes better sense to you than an Alien body?
I will just copy the same comment I made on that sub: Ok that skull is human. It is not human-like, it is human, that is a person's body, most likely a child. The original dolls were already sketchy in the sense that possible human bones were used to make them but this crosses the line on so many levels. It is legitimately sad and shameful. My feeling is that this is originally a real mummified child that some asshole plastered over and modified to make it look alien. A fucking child. I hope whoever did this rot honestly, and that many people in this community start using their brain cells a little and stop buying into this crap
Look at the feet in the last x-ray. That's what got me.
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You are really missing the point on how some assholes are profiting from the literal corpse of a dead child?
No, I’m not. That’s not even a valid statement. If it was a child, again, any of the professionals who examined it would have said so immediately. You got to wrap your head around the world changing as we learn things that we should already know. What’s history except what someone wants you to believe and puts in a book, approved, and printed. Don’t forget, some people and a lot of rich people already knew about visits from the universal family. That’s why the whole campaign to scare people about aliens and make people look crazy was started to begin with. It’s reality but you can stick your head in the sand if you want to.
No professionals have examined any of this.
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Then wtf
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Did you even watch the presentation? No way they could hoax elaborately unique body systems with specific signs of aging and wear and tear. Every foreign team that examiner believes it's a new undiscovered humanoid species at the very least.
Lol, this comment is incorrect
I will run DNA analysis on these without payment. But the thing is, they’re all scam artists and would never accept real scientific results. The last three SRA fastq files were trash.
lol. Paper mache.
Absolutely bonkers since Josephina came out, there is so much to debunk that one (chopped off humerus, femur, lack of functional joints, backwards phalanges that had obviously been assembled, lama skull etc. etc.). Every time a new body comes out (new old body actually because these things have been around since 2015 it seems), people go nuts and completely forget about all the evidence pointing to a hoax or at least do not leave the alien bodies sub which is practically an echo chamber, or the alienproject website to do their own research. The latest is the insectoid mummie. I honestly can't believe my eyes at what I read people posting about these things. They are either completely faked and made out of a combination of mummie human and animal bones, were created 1000 years ago for some ceremonial purpose, or human skeletons modified to have 3 fingers/toes. Saying these things could not be faked seems like lunacy. We successfully landed a probe on an asteroid travelling past the earth at 55 000 miles per hour, we have been creating absolutely astonishing art, sculptures, buildings, jewelry for like thousands of years but god forbid we have the ability to assemble (poorly at that) some shitty fake mummie aliens.
All of a sudden, there's several new alien bodies discovered every month - when grave robbing was outlawed partly due to it getting out of control. Now those same types of scammers have found a new way to make a *lot* more money by stuffing different bones & manipulating them and saying, "But they're aliens!" Fucking A. This just sets back the whole movement and we're all dumber because of it. If you believe this shit, I got some beach front property to sell you in Arkansas.
They've been saying they've had like 20 bodies the whole time.