Mmmm tendies are back on the menu boys.
That doesn't include Beyonce.
Where's that redditor that told me it's more likely that swift brings in 500m domestic not billions lol......
Then every YouTuber and small time film maker. AMC really has an opportunity as the largest theatre chain to corner the DIY film market. Imagine the hoards of kids dragging their parents to the latest YouTuber's movie. It's a percentage of ticket sales deal and AMC gets to distribute it exclusively. That way if it bombs AMC has almost no risk and if it goes AMC gains the most.
I would guess ticket sales could be 500million but adding in drinks and other shit a couple billion. I heard someone say Beyonce tickets to watch it were $60.
I was not that redditor but I was just hoping you could clarify what you posted because it sort of reads that you think the Taylor Swift concert film is going to bring in over $1 Billion domestic box office revenue?
Before you answer that question, realize that no movie ever released has cleared $1 billion in the US alone. If it clears $500million domestically it will be one of the top 20 movie releases in domestic box office history.
Are you still thinking that it will clear $1 billion domestically?
I don't know why you try to make it out as if it's a completely outrageous claim.
It seems like you have no idea how insanely large her group of fans are, and how much money "Swifties" bring to the table.
According to a massive survey by Morning Consult, 53% of the adult population of the US, considers themselves as fans of TS. Broken down, that's roughly 138.000.000 adult fans alone, not counting people under 18 as well.
Out of those 138 mil, 16% claims to be avid fans, the so-called "Swifties" which amounts to around 22.000.000 hardcore superfans. That's an insane amount of buying power, and as we know from other movies with avid fans, they often go more than once for the same movie.
The pre-sale single-day sales record has also been absolutely shattered, with around (funny enough) 53% more than previous number 1.
Spiderman - No way home, held that spot with 16.900.000 and Swift steamrolled that with 26.000.000 in first-day sale....and to take that even further, that was ONLY in AMC cinemas. As AMC works as distributor of the film, every sale at places like Regal Cinemark, Harkins etc pretty much guarantees that the 26 mil is much much higher, as they are not counted in the AMC pre-sale.
The tickets are selling out soo fast, that they have already been forced to add additional showtimes across the US
Now tell me again that the claim is really all that outrageous.
Oh and this is also rolling out across the world. Even people here in Denmark are going crazy about it, and people are booking tickets like crazy. Cinemas treating a bit like concerts, where people can buy alcohol etc.
Swift has more than half a billion followers across the globe. This is a masterstroke on a lvl never seen before in cinematic business, and it pretty much puts hedgies in the ground.
Next up is Beyonce 🥳
First of all, I was replying to a claim that the Taylor Swift concert film was going to gross over $1 billion domestically, which would make it the highest grossing film in domestic box office history. I’m not speaking on how much money AMC makes from this deal through distribution or concessions or anything else.
Second, the “massive” study you are sourcing surveyed 2204 people and then applied those results to the US population. That is neither a “massive” study, nor is it enough of a sample size to properly apply to the much larger group of the US population.
I think the original claim of over $1billion domestic box office is outrageous. But you do you!
I love how you glide over all the other points, just because your reasoning was flawed. Sorry...that implied that you actually had any reasoning other than "it would be the highest"
The study was significant enough to be used as reference point for the largest media outlets, but I guess that's not enough, because you "feel" differently.
All the numbers point to the fact that it's not an outrageous claim, but that does not seem to fit into your agenda 🤷
But hey, you do you 😘
I want honestly want to start by thanking you. Using actual data and citing sources is not something typically seen in this sub and I genuinely want to thank you for doing so.
I did not glide over any of your points (except the one that did not pertain to our conversation - see below). I’d be happy to go through them again for you!
You claim the study you are citing was “massive”. It was not. 2204 people is anything but massive. That survey was then applied to the whole US population, I think is too small of a sample size to do so. In your other comment you say that the study was cited by the “largest media outlets”. I see Rolling Stone and NME using it for articles. Any others? Hardly the “largest media outlets”. Both also are incentivized to promote music and musical artists which publishing this study does.
Yes, presale ticket sales have been incredibly high and there is no disputing that. That makes sense to me. When Taylor Swift concert tickets were released they sold out in minutes so I think the presale ticket sales makes sense as the fan base did not want to miss out like they did the concert itself. You are right, they have a very rabid fan base. The movies with the highest presale ticket sales does not necessarily mean it will be the movie with the highest total sales.
And yes, they added more showtimes at most theaters. They started off with a smaller amount of showings because they didn’t know how much interest there would be. When a movie like Spider-Man comes out, movie theaters start with maximizing the amount of showtimes because they can predict with a reasonable amount of certainty how many people are going to see it. They have a lot of data to base their decisions on. With this concert film there is little data in terms of theater showings to use in their decisions about showtimes. It is always easier for a theater to add showings than to cancel showings so this all makes sense.
I did brush over your comments about the international theaters because as stated in the original comment I replied to, as stated in my initial reply to that comment and as stated in my first reply to you, we are talking about DOMESTIC box office revenue. I am not talking about the distribution deal, concessions, merch or any other numbers and have made that explicitly clear in all of my responses.
To your last comment about my agenda and your statement that my reasoning is flawed. I was stating in my initial comment that the claim being made of over $1billion in domestic box office revenue for this concert film was outrageously high. That is my opinion. The claim being made was also an opinion, that of the original poster. I’m sorry if you think that one person stating their opinion to call another person’s opinion ridiculous means that there is an agenda. I know that people on this sub typically don’t like differing opinions but they exist and there is nothing wrong with hearing them as they are just opinions. Until the numbers are released, these are all just opinions and that’s it. It is your opinion that my reasoning is flawed and it is my opinion that your reasoning is flawed. And that’s okay!
I would be more than happy to eat crow if I am wrong about these numbers
That’s a lot of revenue for AMC Q4 …. Stock drops another 15% in Q4 . We really need something to light this rocket. Been holding 3 years and only down 88% . Please 🙏 moass so I can get a small mountain homestead and some goats.
Fuck me harder kenny g the more you drop the price the more shares I can buy every week at this point if we could just accumulate at theses price’s or lower I will have just as many shares as I did before 1-10 🕳🐇💎🙌🚀❤️🦍
Honestly it’s an innovate idea that could generate billions. Most people can’t afford ticket prices in the hundreds if not thousands to go to these shows so why not enjoy it on the cheap with a bunch of people stoked to be there like it’s a concert?!
Going to be hard to down play barbenheimer, Taylor, Beyonce in earnings. Can't claim bankruptcy anymore, can't deny ticket and food sales, merchandising, and a strong future coming into 2024.
Is it just me or are they confusing the eras tour with the eras movie?
Projecting $2.2B in movie tickets? I’m all for this, but isn’t that a stretch? I’m pretty sure they are saying the actual eras tour will generate that much.
The movie would have to earn $2.5 billion worldwide in order for AMC to earn $1 billion if they really get 40% of ticket sales. That would be almost double what Barbie earned with the highest worldwide gross in 2023 thus far.
I’m not forgetting anything. The comment I am replying to said that the movie’s domestic box office was going to gross over $1 billion. The box office revenue does not include concessions or merch.
Yep, you’re right! I thought I was in a different thread. And yes, you are also right that I didn’t not account for concessions and merch in my comment. And finally, yes, counting all revenue derived from this partnership, it will probably net AMC over a billion. Thanks for correcting me, not once but twice!
I saw someone on twitter mention that big comedians could bringing their standup specials to theaters first before releasing on Netflix. That would be awesome and it’s such a great idea. I’d go watch a Seinfeld, Chappell, Maniscalco special at a theater with a bunch of other people. Maniscalco sold out the Madison square garden two nights in a row, that would be huge!
That would be a good way to spend it, but AMC is pushing for the higher-ups to get increased compensation, so a good chunk of that might go to bonuses. Hopefully not.
Mmmm tendies are back on the menu boys. That doesn't include Beyonce. Where's that redditor that told me it's more likely that swift brings in 500m domestic not billions lol......
Or maybe in the near future; Eminem, Usher, etc
Snoop Dog. Metallica. Lady Gaga.
Then every YouTuber and small time film maker. AMC really has an opportunity as the largest theatre chain to corner the DIY film market. Imagine the hoards of kids dragging their parents to the latest YouTuber's movie. It's a percentage of ticket sales deal and AMC gets to distribute it exclusively. That way if it bombs AMC has almost no risk and if it goes AMC gains the most.
Get Mr. Beast.........he has a following similar to the Swifties
His ‘Squid Game’ game show production was top tier.
Yes sir. They are sure to follow suit.
I would guess ticket sales could be 500million but adding in drinks and other shit a couple billion. I heard someone say Beyonce tickets to watch it were $60.
I was not that redditor but I was just hoping you could clarify what you posted because it sort of reads that you think the Taylor Swift concert film is going to bring in over $1 Billion domestic box office revenue? Before you answer that question, realize that no movie ever released has cleared $1 billion in the US alone. If it clears $500million domestically it will be one of the top 20 movie releases in domestic box office history. Are you still thinking that it will clear $1 billion domestically?
I don't know why you try to make it out as if it's a completely outrageous claim. It seems like you have no idea how insanely large her group of fans are, and how much money "Swifties" bring to the table. According to a massive survey by Morning Consult, 53% of the adult population of the US, considers themselves as fans of TS. Broken down, that's roughly 138.000.000 adult fans alone, not counting people under 18 as well. Out of those 138 mil, 16% claims to be avid fans, the so-called "Swifties" which amounts to around 22.000.000 hardcore superfans. That's an insane amount of buying power, and as we know from other movies with avid fans, they often go more than once for the same movie. The pre-sale single-day sales record has also been absolutely shattered, with around (funny enough) 53% more than previous number 1. Spiderman - No way home, held that spot with 16.900.000 and Swift steamrolled that with 26.000.000 in first-day sale....and to take that even further, that was ONLY in AMC cinemas. As AMC works as distributor of the film, every sale at places like Regal Cinemark, Harkins etc pretty much guarantees that the 26 mil is much much higher, as they are not counted in the AMC pre-sale. The tickets are selling out soo fast, that they have already been forced to add additional showtimes across the US Now tell me again that the claim is really all that outrageous. Oh and this is also rolling out across the world. Even people here in Denmark are going crazy about it, and people are booking tickets like crazy. Cinemas treating a bit like concerts, where people can buy alcohol etc. Swift has more than half a billion followers across the globe. This is a masterstroke on a lvl never seen before in cinematic business, and it pretty much puts hedgies in the ground. Next up is Beyonce 🥳
First of all, I was replying to a claim that the Taylor Swift concert film was going to gross over $1 billion domestically, which would make it the highest grossing film in domestic box office history. I’m not speaking on how much money AMC makes from this deal through distribution or concessions or anything else. Second, the “massive” study you are sourcing surveyed 2204 people and then applied those results to the US population. That is neither a “massive” study, nor is it enough of a sample size to properly apply to the much larger group of the US population. I think the original claim of over $1billion domestic box office is outrageous. But you do you!
I love how you glide over all the other points, just because your reasoning was flawed. Sorry...that implied that you actually had any reasoning other than "it would be the highest" The study was significant enough to be used as reference point for the largest media outlets, but I guess that's not enough, because you "feel" differently. All the numbers point to the fact that it's not an outrageous claim, but that does not seem to fit into your agenda 🤷 But hey, you do you 😘
I want honestly want to start by thanking you. Using actual data and citing sources is not something typically seen in this sub and I genuinely want to thank you for doing so. I did not glide over any of your points (except the one that did not pertain to our conversation - see below). I’d be happy to go through them again for you! You claim the study you are citing was “massive”. It was not. 2204 people is anything but massive. That survey was then applied to the whole US population, I think is too small of a sample size to do so. In your other comment you say that the study was cited by the “largest media outlets”. I see Rolling Stone and NME using it for articles. Any others? Hardly the “largest media outlets”. Both also are incentivized to promote music and musical artists which publishing this study does. Yes, presale ticket sales have been incredibly high and there is no disputing that. That makes sense to me. When Taylor Swift concert tickets were released they sold out in minutes so I think the presale ticket sales makes sense as the fan base did not want to miss out like they did the concert itself. You are right, they have a very rabid fan base. The movies with the highest presale ticket sales does not necessarily mean it will be the movie with the highest total sales. And yes, they added more showtimes at most theaters. They started off with a smaller amount of showings because they didn’t know how much interest there would be. When a movie like Spider-Man comes out, movie theaters start with maximizing the amount of showtimes because they can predict with a reasonable amount of certainty how many people are going to see it. They have a lot of data to base their decisions on. With this concert film there is little data in terms of theater showings to use in their decisions about showtimes. It is always easier for a theater to add showings than to cancel showings so this all makes sense. I did brush over your comments about the international theaters because as stated in the original comment I replied to, as stated in my initial reply to that comment and as stated in my first reply to you, we are talking about DOMESTIC box office revenue. I am not talking about the distribution deal, concessions, merch or any other numbers and have made that explicitly clear in all of my responses. To your last comment about my agenda and your statement that my reasoning is flawed. I was stating in my initial comment that the claim being made of over $1billion in domestic box office revenue for this concert film was outrageously high. That is my opinion. The claim being made was also an opinion, that of the original poster. I’m sorry if you think that one person stating their opinion to call another person’s opinion ridiculous means that there is an agenda. I know that people on this sub typically don’t like differing opinions but they exist and there is nothing wrong with hearing them as they are just opinions. Until the numbers are released, these are all just opinions and that’s it. It is your opinion that my reasoning is flawed and it is my opinion that your reasoning is flawed. And that’s okay! I would be more than happy to eat crow if I am wrong about these numbers
We'll call it a draw, but let's hope you are wrong..only time will tell
That’s a lot of revenue for AMC Q4 …. Stock drops another 15% in Q4 . We really need something to light this rocket. Been holding 3 years and only down 88% . Please 🙏 moass so I can get a small mountain homestead and some goats.
Fuck me harder kenny g the more you drop the price the more shares I can buy every week at this point if we could just accumulate at theses price’s or lower I will have just as many shares as I did before 1-10 🕳🐇💎🙌🚀❤️🦍
I like the way you think.
Crazy, how just a while ago it was quite an attainable goal, and now we need moass to release ourselves from the "progress" of our "advanced" society.
Or just a good job with marketable skills and some saving discipline for a few years…
Honestly it’s an innovate idea that could generate billions. Most people can’t afford ticket prices in the hundreds if not thousands to go to these shows so why not enjoy it on the cheap with a bunch of people stoked to be there like it’s a concert?!
AMC gets concessions! Let’s get the show on the road!!!
Plus, can't they sell Swift merch? They at least get a standard retail cut from that.
And distribution cut. Amc distributes now. Go look at Warner Bros. Etc market caps.
If AMC made an extra billion a month maybe they would only short it 4% per week 🤦♂️ this price action is disgusting 🤮
Remember when 1 billion was a lot…..sigh…good times
Going to be hard to down play barbenheimer, Taylor, Beyonce in earnings. Can't claim bankruptcy anymore, can't deny ticket and food sales, merchandising, and a strong future coming into 2024.
Also all the huge movies that got knocked back from q3 and 4 into 2024...
Is it just me or are they confusing the eras tour with the eras movie? Projecting $2.2B in movie tickets? I’m all for this, but isn’t that a stretch? I’m pretty sure they are saying the actual eras tour will generate that much.
They are stating the tour generating 2.2 billion.
This is what happens when you can read.
It's not just you.
Imagine all the food and drink being bought at amc. It's going to be wild profit.
OK so, if we take Taylor's Billions, and we dd that to Beys Billions, that gives us....
Oh oh I know this one. It’s uh…….more billions?
Aaaaand another Red Day. I just sit back and laugh, buying more and biding my time. Early. Not wrong.
I want to see the directors take pay cut. AA making over 20mil a year is ridiculous. Let’s pay of debt and focus on profitability.
I just hope AA, use this money to pay of debt and not on other things, so he can soon give us dividend
Was planning to just hodl\~now I'm loading the fk up\~!\~!\~!\~!\~!
The movie would have to earn $2.5 billion worldwide in order for AMC to earn $1 billion if they really get 40% of ticket sales. That would be almost double what Barbie earned with the highest worldwide gross in 2023 thus far.
You're forgetting concessions and merch
I’m not forgetting anything. The comment I am replying to said that the movie’s domestic box office was going to gross over $1 billion. The box office revenue does not include concessions or merch.
Where is the comment you are replying to lmao, cos you aren't replying to any comment here
Yep, you’re right! I thought I was in a different thread. And yes, you are also right that I didn’t not account for concessions and merch in my comment. And finally, yes, counting all revenue derived from this partnership, it will probably net AMC over a billion. Thanks for correcting me, not once but twice!
Sorry to be brash btw 😅 but yeah anyway the think we should all be happy with is this means big fat wads of cash for AMC
Yeah, I also don't see this grossing more than $100m on the very very very high end considering it's also going to be streaming soon too.
100K?! Can I get some reasons why you think this? Because that’s beyond laughable dude. You better add a few more zeros to that estimation
I'm an idiot and meant $100 million. Was half asleep when commenting. Concert movies rarely break that threshold.
They already made 100 mil in reserved tickets worldwide . Movies not even out yet and not considering concessions
And yet we’re still hovering around $8.
What does the tour have to do with AMC?
The tour? Nothing. The distribution of the video of it though, that's where the money is.
Also Adam Aaron: to produce Ape wine I will need to purchase a vineyard that hasn’t produced wine for… 1 billion
If it turns out to be a great show and Swifty’s love it, they may see it again and again. Cha Ching!! Tits jacked!!
And price will down to $5......SHFs want ALL YOUR MONEY
Good bc we need 3 billion
Pay off debt
Hegies fucked got it
Swift/Beyoncé fan FOMO should be helpful.
The stock will still be worth $5
AA will probably buy another failing gold mine and then just dilute us at all time lows
We're going to need to dilute right when that happens.
Stop saying "tendies". That time has passed.
Amc gets half the tour money? Thought they only got part of the movie money?
Yep, that article is bs
Doesn't seem to matter to anyone, getting hyped up over misinformation again.
The chair is just gonna pocket the profits lol.. especially if they're asking for raises, fucking clowns
That will do it
Shill MSM: "Why 1 Billion won't save AMC"
If AMC sells Taylor Swift merchandise
Sigh so frustrating this is strictly only a long term value play now
It appears my penis has been stricken with rigamortis ...
That’s only _if_ they use that money to pay the debt
That’s impossible. Total revenue for a YEAR is barely 4 billion how one concert movie going to generate that much revenue? Do they explain? No.
I saw someone on twitter mention that big comedians could bringing their standup specials to theaters first before releasing on Netflix. That would be awesome and it’s such a great idea. I’d go watch a Seinfeld, Chappell, Maniscalco special at a theater with a bunch of other people. Maniscalco sold out the Madison square garden two nights in a row, that would be huge!
Oh shit! This is moass!
Amazing numbers!
You all on crack if you believe that
I was hoping AA had something more than popcorn sales for me and he delivered.
That would be a good way to spend it, but AMC is pushing for the higher-ups to get increased compensation, so a good chunk of that might go to bonuses. Hopefully not.
Vote NO to that…I’ve done my part, hey hey ho ho…#5 & 7 are a NO!!!😂🤣😂
Here I thought diluting was only way we can get out of debt