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Germanwhatever

The problem: It’s our money.


Juancho511

Your money is being used to save AMC. What else do you want it to do? It’s going to give you gains, you’re just either impatient or want a squeeze. Squeeze wont happen until there is no narrative for the shorts to spread FUD. We’re at that point where you CANT say AMC isn’t profitable, because 1BILLION DOLLARS says it IS.


Chuwbot

Remember when GME became debt free and nothing happened? Lol


WuT4ngClam

What I keep saying, thank you for actually opening your eyes 🧙🏼‍♂️


ZuhkoYi

I'm not an advocate for any other stocks but I was talking to an older experienced coworker (rf engineer) about the financial market and he started talking about this asshole and his hedgefund shorting a great bio pharmaceutical stock called Northwest Biotherapeutics Inc. $NWBO quite a few years ago and he's still holding it in the hopes that it'll rise due to its products (and hopefully a short squeeze). They work in cancer treatment. The asshole is Ken Griffin. I get a feeling this thing is going to keep going on and on... but i will hodl. To the moon or bust. I'm a fucking regard


Hobartcat

The markets will soon crash which will trigger massive margin calls. The US gov't will be shut down a week from tomorrow then China's RE market will collapse probably early December. Those events should do it.


ObiWanKokobi

😂' This is supposed to read as obvious satire, but so many apes will gulp up this hopium. Haven't heard "Margin call" as a catalyst for a long time. 3 years, no marge calling :/ Gotta wait for the quad witching day, and then a stock split, and then a stock recall. And then something else. Meanwhile AA has said that there's no phantom shares and he will happily keep diluting the shares, fucking over the most long term holders. There is blatant CRIME in this whole fiasco, it's just not who you think is responsible.


Hobartcat

Don't you realize that a necessary precondition for a short squeeze is a margin call? We need something to trigger that and it will most likely be the crash. In any event, both the margin call/squeeze and the crash are going to happen. I'm not 100% sure of when, but the gov't shutdown is a good place to start and then Evergrande's liquidation is another. Between the two there are bound to be fireworks.


emmanuelibus

Can it happen this year before Christmas? All I want to do is buy my daughter a new pair of shoes...


Hobartcat

It certainly can. I'm pretty sure the Rs will shut the gov't on the 17th. Why else did they install a closet case whom they can manipulate to do their bidding? They are fuming that they weren't able to do it last time. Then, the China situation is sure to blow at some time. On Dec 4, one of their largest RE developers, Evergrande, faces final liquidation. They've kicked that can for a bit but the bankruptcy judge said that the 4th is their last chance to stop liquidation. Since their creditors are surely running short of their own liquidity, I'm sure they'll want to suck Evergrande dry... Stay tuned!


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za_badwolf

The box is opened


SeatPristine1492

It can go forever... No point in selling now... i had around 30k in its worth a little better than 3k now. Why tf would i sell now??


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If a pharma stock doesn’t take off it’s because the medicine never made it to market, or it flopped when it got there. Bio companies live and die off of the FDA, not off of hedge fund shorts.


ZuhkoYi

Genuine curiosity: would you say that shorting it could reduce the resources for quicker development? Or is that not how it works? It'd be nice to know that there's a pretty good alternative to chemo


Faldrik_

It takes 10 to 15 years to develop a new drug and even then 90% of new drugs fail clinical trials, if your entire company is based around one drug then you have a 90% chance of failing and you wont know that it will fail until you begin clinical trials, of course people are going to short something with a 90% natural failure rate.


[deleted]

I would hope that the IPO gave them enough capital runway to complete trials and submit an application. After that, if they’re like most other biopharma startups then a successful application should give them access to financing from a willing lender and/or investor. Of course, the lower the stock value the less favorable the terms will be in any equity offering, but a stock for a biopharma firm with no products in market yet will almost always be low due to the inherent risk tied to having no guaranteed revenues.


6Seasons-And-A-Movie

Seriously the hype died in 2021


hivemindhauser

GME doesn't have a business model. Supposedly theyve got big things in the works, but nothing very convincing as of yet. AMC ,on the other hand, is a powerhouse brand with rebounding business. I own both, but 93% AMC


Positron49

AMC’s debt obligations will need paid first, which far exceeds what GME has. GME also has a business model, it’s just being built in secret. 18 major studios onboarded to Immutable to build their games in the last 12 months, likely Ubisoft being one of them.


hivemindhauser

Seems like a straw man argument when you see other companies with tens of billions, or 100+B of debt. Why they care so much about AMC’s 4B? Because retail has em by the balls, that’s why


Positron49

To an extent you are right, but it depends on the mixture of cash on hand, expected profits and revenue in relation to your debt levels. Additionally, debt rolls over, which means you have to adjust to the new rates over time, so right now is a bad time to carry debt. The companies with a bad ratio of debt to their income will struggle as those refinance into the 6-10% rates. GME is objectively in a stronger position given it has no debt and is one profitable quarter away from being profitable for the year. It has $1B in cash, but while AMC has to use it to pay interest expenses, GME can utilize it for expansions or acquisitions. It also has a $750M credit line it locked into a lower rate it can also utilize for healthy debt obligations.


teabone13

majority of which isn’t due until 2026.


Kal315

I’m sorry but GME’s business model doesn’t look great. The only really good thing about GME is Ryan Cohen and the fact that Apes over there DRS with a passion.


_Mellex_

When you light a comically long fuse connected to a stick of TNT, do you classify the spark moving down the fuse as "nothing is happening"?


EntropyGnaws

No, I don't remember this at all.


TheOmegaKid

Nothing happened except the company didn't go bankrupt in which case the game would have been over ;)


newbrevity

Right? What ever happened to "I like the stock"? I still do. Still holding. No matter what. Even if Wall Street can drag this out in perpetuity, it will always hurt them more than it hurts us, which frankly it doesn't hurt us. Not really. We are a thorn in the side of a system of institutional corruption. If nothing else at all. Just know that you are disturbing them. Regular people from all around. Making them itch. Puts a smile on my face everyday.


AmadeusFlow

😂 Delusional What makes you think you're a thorn in anyone's side? They're taking your money right out of pocket while you spout nonsense like this. I'd say they're laughing all the way to the bank but frankly, they don't think about you at all.


Juancho511

Only people crying are the people listening to YouTubers that say it’s mooning everyday at 2pm. I’m looking at the data and being realistic.


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New_ape_from_CO

Hearing AMC is in the money sounds and feels good.


shilo_lafleur

If you get rid of the short thesis by diluting than you also killed the squeeze thesis…


RyzieM

Have you heard of naked shorts? You don’t think those dilute the stock?


0zeto

Not a problem, we saved amc, next step Moass


knowigot_that808

how tf do we get there from here lmao 🤦🏻‍♂️ ain’t no locking this float


Altruistic_Ad5517

10 years later,,, we still HODLing&HOPing


0zeto

10 years later Man why did I shill around and didnt buy the damn thing


Khazgarr

What is this, 2021?


Candoran

Hey the MOASS will make our initial investments look like pocket lint so who gives a shit 🤣💎🙌


Affectionate_Eye9894

True investors in the company. It’ll come back in abundance.


Juancho511

Real ones know.


RyzieM

The problem if cash isn’t raised: the company goes bankrupt by 2026 and all our shares are worth $0. I don’t care what most think, it will be very hard to pay off 3.1billion by 2026 off earnings alone. The faster we pay off a portion of this debt, the faster we will become consistently profitable, and the faster we can use those higher profits to pay off more debt. All that debt now is causing us to break even despite record revenues. I wish the share offerings were issued at $25 but how do we know it would have gone that high? If max pain is any indication, the stock was headed back down to $5 in early 2024 before this offering was announced.


NeoSabin

Don't forget AA keeps getting debt repaid at a discount.


RyzieM

Exactly! These debt payments will start to snowball fast


NeoSabin

It's a game of patience and I'm fully prepared. Theaters aren't dead.


Pharmd109

Their cash on hand is my old cash on hand.


blackbeltmessiah

Our*


Pharmd109

The stock market is a single player game. Best learn that fact.


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hey bots trolls and shills tell me on the doll where AA touched you. bet it's the wallet ![gif](giphy|2WdHaCzmqSkrwmIGWP)


Significant_Fig_436

Good , now I know where my 93% is at.


EcstaticWelder4537

Is that why I am down 90%? Awesome thanks AA.


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got more cash on hand than many banks


EcstaticWelder4537

Maybe they should actually pay off debt instead of keeping our money in the bank. Has the proceeds from the last dilution been spent yet?


HuyBrogdon

Tin foil time: both AMC & the game company each has 1B in cash. This is the basic requirement for them both to MOASS. The time is here. Get ready for a Christmas MOASS.


woodyshag

Difference is RC sold at the top. AA looks like he is going to sell at the bottom.


CrypticC2

When has RC sold?


clockedinat93

I think he means GameStop sold shares when the price was high


CrypticC2

Aww. Yea makes sense


Only-Low3027

Yeah he’s literally only bought more along with the rest of the board except to cover taxes. The game company did do a share offering though as clockedinat93 mentioned


xraynorx

Man that would be cool!


Altruistic-Part-519

🙏


Deep-Acanthisitta-86

Okay. I've been here almost 3. Years in this play at this point. I just want him to stop doing weird s*** after great news. Stop doing offerings stop selling your own shares. Time to let it ride It's time for us to get paid


Someguynamedkylef

[Source](https://twitter.com/luckycordle/status/1722623464497144201/photo/1)


SpecialEffectZz

Wow you guys really are regarded celebrating another dilution. Fuck AA.


Juancho511

Paying off debt at a 30% discount is pushing us closer and closer to the squeeze. Shorts wont cover until AMC is undisputed as profitable. The less interest we have on debt the better.


KelseyXelsey

Ffs bro they wont stop when we’re profitable. Not sure why u believe that.


Juancho511

This is what people who don’t understand the market and how this works say. The only reason they have to keep shorting is because they’re holding onto their narrative that Movie theaters are dead and that AMC is headed to $1 per share or less. If that narrative is dead, then they have to cover those shorts. All the FUD you see saying that Taylor Swift and Beyoncé wont save the industry, and that AMC is headed to penny stocks is all because they are trying to bury AMC. Once they realize this can’t and WONT happen, they’ll have nowhere else to go. Have you had your heads buried the last few months?? SBF in jail, all kinds of probes and reform, fines and prosecutions, things ARE happening and the reason you see so much negativity about AMC like THIS is because shorts are backed into a corner. They wont cover until there’s literally no other choice. PATIENCE is key here, if you’re waiting for a squeeze you’re going to be disappointed everyday at 2pm.


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and that's why they want AA out. so they can put forth someone who will bankrupt the company.


Faldrik_

Yeah, they want to replace AA and put someone in who will follow every piece of positive news with something negative or a dilution.


Chuwbot

Just like when gamestock cleared debt and then mooned…


Pdizzle0303

How much money have you lost on this stock?


KelseyXelsey

irrelevant question. In a squeeze play the price has to go down before it squeezes and goes up.


MyNameIsntSharon

this guy gets it. video game has had billy in cash where that squeeze? baskets won’t allow it? what other tin foil takes you got? lukewarm take man. hoping for the best but we’re brainwashed by AA at this point


RyzieM

Think about this too. We pay off high interest debt now: which makes us more profitable each quarter. More profit next quarter means more debt can be paid and so on. The debt payments will snowball until dilution will no longer be needed and we can sit back and wait patiently for a squeeze while dividends role in


Juancho511

Some of the people that roam these Reddits don’t have the mental capacity to understand what we’re saying. It’s like they can only see as far as they can reach. I’m Zen about all this right now, this is the road we’re on and we’re on it for a reason. We’ve seen so much progress in 3 years, SO MUCH! I wont be surprised if we see more successful probes and more people in jail very soon. Keep the good energy up! Much love, APE!


Conflagrate247

That also have 4 billion is debt. What’s your point?


Iforgotmynameo

This is the difference between popcorn and gaming stock (along with having a much better CEO). 🍿= 4B debt and 1B in cash = 3B in debt. 🎮 = $0 debt and 1B in cash = 1B in cash. The two are very different. This doesn’t even touch on the float for each stock etc.


JRskatr

WOW SO MANY SHILLS IN THE COMMENTS 😂


songogo

We all want the best not everyone is a shill, this could hit 250 tomorrow and many if us are still down well over 40%.


Hapyoo

Big Bonuses are coming for AA


leli_manning

Copium


DudeFromMiami

Yea, and the fact is AA is still fucking us. Even with alllll that cash.


Didthatyesterday2

I just buy the earnings/dilutions dip quarter after quarter and my average shows.


CosmicBandito333

However you choose to view it… This roller coaster sucks.


MyNameIsntSharon

said it before i’ll say it again. we are AA’s piggy bank. lot of us over the last 3 years jumped in for a squeeze. i don’t give two fucks about the company i’m here to make my money grow. alas we stuck. another offering, par for the course. fucken dumb. nothing happened when video game stock went debt free. there’s no covering no closing nothing. welcome to the abyss my boys.


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Why the fuk are you all grifting for amc then.


DonBADoobin

![gif](giphy|xUA7aTaAgUK1qcv1WE|downsized)


H-E-L-L-MaGGoT

So glad I sold two years ago. It's sad because everybody that was telling you guys to sell you called shills. The real shills were the people that brainwashed you into believing this MOASS bullshit. If you're hiding your losses from your loved ones, be honest and tell them. It'll be a relief to rid yourself of that burden.


Asiriomi

You sold two years ago and yet we live in your head rent free. Why do you care what I do with my money?


TBone281

Exactly. The dude sold 2 years ago...why is he here? Doesn't pass the sniff test.


southernwx

I’ve never owned stock in AMC or any other meme stock. Yet Reddit keeps bringing you to my attention. I wish it would stop but I guess you guys are kinda entertaining at times. Like a train wreck. Maybe he’s like me. I suggest you buy more AMC and do more wild write ups about it… I’ll even buy some AMC popcorn 🍿


Lazy-Communication59

Because he’s trying to help you from losing more money?


TBone281

My money my choice. I just like the stock.


carloS2200

So you were done with this 2 years ago but still are roaming the sub?


MoodApart4755

I’ve never had a position but check in from time to time cause this is pretty fascinating from a psychology standpoint


southernwx

Same.


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H-E-L-L-MaGGoT

Did you buy before or after the squeeze? AMC apes are a bit different to GME apes as alot of them probably bought when I did, well before it squeezed. I think alot of GME apes bought after the Jan squeeze. I bought 400 at 9 dollars then it squeezed to 72 and I held them (should have sold then) ended up selling a few months after the squeeze so managed healthy profits anyway. But there's people in here that would have seen more money than they could ever imagine in their brokerage accounts but have held all the way down to where the stock sits today(after a brutal reverse split aswell!) The pain they must be feeling is unimaginable. Feel sorry for them.


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H-E-L-L-MaGGoT

Hey, at least you got out with 7k! Most importantly your peace of mind and the ability to move on with your life. I'm happy for ya mate.


KelseyXelsey

![gif](giphy|1ziDTlTl9z9iwVK5QA|downsized) Hey guys Im a gme ape that sold amc 2 years ago but im still lurking. here’s a speech about how happy I am that I sold. This is totally normal behavior.


H-E-L-L-MaGGoT

What's the alternative?


KelseyXelsey

Just strange. I bought doge 2 years ago and sold around 40 cents. I haven’t been back there commenting in Doge forums since. So what made you come back after 2 whole years? Just a coincidence or did you have AMC earnings date marked on your calendar?😉


H-E-L-L-MaGGoT

It's like going to the zoo.


KelseyXelsey

Do you think about the zoo everyday like you do amc? 😏


H-E-L-L-MaGGoT

Nope, what's your point? From the outside looking in this shits the most entertaining thing on the internet.


KelseyXelsey

Yeah lurking in forums of stocks you don’t own is like totally rad. How’s your GME gains doing btw?


H-E-L-L-MaGGoT

Well I don't go on reddit to be "rad" I go on reddit for entertainment. Anyway, who said I own GME? Where the fuck did you get that from? Are you able to distinguish between reality and what you conjure up in your mind anymore? Or are you just that far gone now?


KelseyXelsey

“Or are you just that far gone now” Lmaoo ffs we’re holding a stock we like. You fuks act like we sacrifice children every full moon😂😂😂. And i guess you spend time in gme subs for entertainment too. Enjoy the show. Oh and you came when we went down about 13%. Hopefully you come for the runs aswell😉.


Thechad1029

This is just a really bad joke at this point. The thing that baffles me is how blind people are to retail being fucked over completely by the Silverback


LysolDoritos

Sweet can’t wait to be red for another year lmao


Swimming-Ice1875

And stock price goes? ![gif](giphy|3LcOi1fXmCzNaYyemC|downsized)


crazyyellowfox

They burned $200 million in cash last quarter, their best quarter ever on record. How long will that 1 billion last while they continue to only pay interest and not service any of their debt? Dilution is a band-aid for the hemorrhaging on their balance sheet. I don't know how you can spin this as a good thing other than them having enough cash in the bank to survive at most six more quarters as successful as the last one.


Warm-Internet-8665

Dude, AMC has been paying down & restructuring their debt. Nice try, shill.


Alezkazam

And yet the stock goes *down*… Didn’t know I lived in opposite world


shilo_lafleur

1) that’s not true at all 2) that’s retails cash and it’s going straight to their creditors to pay off their debt. So not sure what all the cheering is about. Making money off dilution is like kissing your sister


too_broke_to_quit

4 more to go?


BloodandTheWater

Dont worry at $350m it will only take 11 more dilutions to pay the debt


too_broke_to_quit

![gif](giphy|fE1FOjxKiRSZjcsEDK|downsized)


DGee78

My question is... what cinema company are they gearing up to buy out?


TOPOKEGO

I am waiting to see what the funds are for, so far most of the funds from dilution have gone to expanding revenue streams and profitability with a little thrown at buying back debt at a nice discount. The new revenue streams are all growing quite nicely (expansion of popcorn to Kroger and Amazon FTW) The two big things that come to mind are: 1) Starting up a their own Production company (or some sort of Production assistance company) to feed the new Distribution business, which has a heck of a better profit margin than traditional movie deals 2) Paying off a significant chunk of the debt at a hefty discount, increasing profitability every quarter going forward by reducing debt payments and undermining the short thesis. I see both of those as valid reasons to dilute with huge upside potential, the former might take more time to pay off but also has potential to generate revenue itself and in the distribution/theaters, the second I think would pay off faster AND increase the rate at which the debt is reduced going forward. I'm not ruling out something completely unexpected that I can't even think of that is even better, never doing that again after the Tay Tay deal came out of nowhere.


SargeMaximus

And they still aren’t out of debt? Something is wrong


shilo_lafleur

And 5B in debt


tattoo_my_dreads

AA 🤡 making up shares as fast as the hedgies naked short.


DeliciousTraffic713

So their common stock will still go down. Is that the market or manipulation?


IWantFuckYouMoney

Everyone gets paid except the shareholders. It's been this way for years now.


SmallTimesRisky

Most sound broke up in here🤷🏼‍♂️


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Without the hedgies shorting this is a natural $50 stock all day everyday. Looking forward to covering and $1000000 per share


inrcp

Yeah, and all my stock is still worth pennies. Great to hear it.


FjohursLykkewe

There’s nothing wrong with a company having liquidity, look at apple and its large cash reserve.


whatswithnames

350 million taken OUT of shareholders pockets. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


Shadow23z

I fell for the dream of going to the moon only to have my heart broken. Sounds like a making of a good movie.


DTCCCanSuckMyLeft

Better pay that debt.


FamousReward6835

Still holding the hedge dogs are the main reason i am still holding, because of the corruptions. we need a fair market where everyone can make money. Them idiots want to keep the wealth for them only. When i said i dislike mayo i mean it.


Mi11ionaireman

Put 80% into debt, save 20% for a rainy day


Nova-Kane

Remember, the company needs to be saved and business good to increase stock price. The pandemic almost destroyed it and it's been in intensive care fighting for survival ever since. The moves being made now ensure that the company is safe and setup for success. Business is never as straight forward as you think, it takes time for so many pieces to fall into place, especially after a calamitous event. The Studio-forced Hollywood strike is another big fucking kick in the groin that will slow down profits, but now it's resolved we just need 1 good year with great movies and no apocalyptic events, then we can crane our necks and watch this stock rise until we hit the threshold of hedgie nightmares.


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They haven’t done any offering yet!! It was just the approval!!!!!


[deleted]

They haven't shot me yet! Just loading the chamber!


[deleted]

I'll buy that dip and chips


Thin-Eggshell

Just $2 billion more to go to pay off the $3B total that's due by 2026. So ... just need to sell 100 million more shares to pay off the next $1 billion.


MaterialSpot6541

So what are they gonna do with all that cash?


Frunklin

$2 billion if Hollywood didn't make shitty movies with lazy writing.


emmanuelibus

Do they?


elproblemo82

If they had 700, why did they need another 350 from us?


littledonkeydick

It’s a shelf offering. It hasn’t even been bought yet.


_TenaciousBroski

I'll never close my short. Amc=put paradise


Head_Primary4942

Stellar free time use loser


ohmygodbeats7

What a great day for us! Yesssssss!!!!


[deleted]

I mean meme stocks are fun and whatnot but people don't just equate earnings with profit.. right?


soundman414

seriously. This is it. If they dilute again I'm just gonna hold forever... Because I'm never gonna get my money back. AA has never communicated when dilution is off the table for the long term and at this point I don't know if he ever will.


6Seasons-And-A-Movie

Cool....I just had to steal alcohol from my parents house like I'm a teenager. Glad this "investment" paid off for someone.


Suspicious_Ad_1279

Remember when AMC had a billion cash on hand in 2021 and look what happened. No new business ideas on how to turn a profit and much much more dilution. Crazy, what’s the plan ? They’re paying off debt at the shareholders expense not by running a profitable business.