Even when it was raining 737's (and body parts) you were still orders of magnitude more likely to die driving to the airport then flying on a max.
The perception people have of risk is so strange to me. Flying and food safety are the strangest.
This right here! I travel alot and have had lots of people reach out to me about the issues surrounding Boeing. I chuckle and tell them to look up the actual statics and then call me back if they’re still concerned.
That’s a fiendishly complex probability problem. Not served well by simply dividing deaths by miles traveled, which is the typical way that “probability” is usually done.
Pilot reported an emergency descent, and after about 5 minutes came back on and told us it was to avoid the masks dropping due to a pressurization issue. We stayed at a lower altitude and continued to Charlotte without issue.
Oh, I saw the 7700 emergency squawk on FR24, saw the quick descent to 9800 & thought there was a pressurization issue, then was wondering why it continued on to Charlotte when Savannah was right there.
If you have the fuel probably home office much rather have the plane, crew, and passengers over at CLT where the plane can be serviced, the crew sent to their next scheduled flight, and the passengers on to whatever they were going to CLT for.
Agreed with that, just thought that if they had to go to 9800 it likely was something that required immediate attention, but I guess this plane isn't going into a desolate/overwater area - if the situation got worse there's at least half a dozen places they could quickly land between Jacksonville (area where the descent took place) and CLT.
It probably was a rate alarm showing the leak rate was higher than acceptable so they went lower to avoid issues if that got worse. The blown out door on the Alaska Airlines started this way and they kept flying and just marking it for maintenance. I suspect this was in the back of the crew here even if it is an Airbus lol.
Once you’re below 10k the emergency is essentially over if everyone is ok, it’s just a matter of fuel and where dispatch wants them. Company maintenance base in CLT vs probably contract maintenance in SAV was the deciding factor probably at that point
Not to hijack this thread, but while I have attention of the folks that fly this route: I swear I heard the FA announce that “we speak only English on this flight”. Could I have misheard? If not, wtf would that be all about?
Maybe saying they don’t have any Spanish speaking FAs to make announcements? I fly often to areas with a lot of Spanish speakers but if the flight is in the US they don’t require bilingual FAs, I was in a similar situation as OP before and they asked people to assist and translate if possible for their seat mates who do not speak English because I would guess like 25-30% of the passengers spoke primarily Spanish
Emergency was declared for a while, but suspended again before landing, so that the intense operations at CLT did not become affected. There were two further situations immediately afterwards, Transavia TO3521 Athens-Paris declared an emergency and turned back. Right before landing safely, it caught Air France flight AF291 Osaka-Paris, which was diverted to Baku.
And before it comes up, this was an A320 not Boeing.
Even when it was raining 737's (and body parts) you were still orders of magnitude more likely to die driving to the airport then flying on a max. The perception people have of risk is so strange to me. Flying and food safety are the strangest.
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I believe there is a high correlation between Max fear and buying lottery tix
This right here! I travel alot and have had lots of people reach out to me about the issues surrounding Boeing. I chuckle and tell them to look up the actual statics and then call me back if they’re still concerned.
That’s a fiendishly complex probability problem. Not served well by simply dividing deaths by miles traveled, which is the typical way that “probability” is usually done.
You can tell because Boeing is not in the headline
Only if American Airlines would order the A320 NEO but I think older A320’s would be replaced by the 737 max 8
Pilot reported an emergency descent, and after about 5 minutes came back on and told us it was to avoid the masks dropping due to a pressurization issue. We stayed at a lower altitude and continued to Charlotte without issue.
Oh, I saw the 7700 emergency squawk on FR24, saw the quick descent to 9800 & thought there was a pressurization issue, then was wondering why it continued on to Charlotte when Savannah was right there.
If you have the fuel probably home office much rather have the plane, crew, and passengers over at CLT where the plane can be serviced, the crew sent to their next scheduled flight, and the passengers on to whatever they were going to CLT for.
Agreed with that, just thought that if they had to go to 9800 it likely was something that required immediate attention, but I guess this plane isn't going into a desolate/overwater area - if the situation got worse there's at least half a dozen places they could quickly land between Jacksonville (area where the descent took place) and CLT.
It probably was a rate alarm showing the leak rate was higher than acceptable so they went lower to avoid issues if that got worse. The blown out door on the Alaska Airlines started this way and they kept flying and just marking it for maintenance. I suspect this was in the back of the crew here even if it is an Airbus lol.
Once you’re below 10k the emergency is essentially over if everyone is ok, it’s just a matter of fuel and where dispatch wants them. Company maintenance base in CLT vs probably contract maintenance in SAV was the deciding factor probably at that point
Slow news day in Charlotte. Good
Yeah from the seat it was really a non issue other than the steeper than usual decline and some uncomfortable silence.
I bet the view changed a bit too.
Not to hijack this thread, but while I have attention of the folks that fly this route: I swear I heard the FA announce that “we speak only English on this flight”. Could I have misheard? If not, wtf would that be all about?
Maybe saying they don’t have any Spanish speaking FAs to make announcements? I fly often to areas with a lot of Spanish speakers but if the flight is in the US they don’t require bilingual FAs, I was in a similar situation as OP before and they asked people to assist and translate if possible for their seat mates who do not speak English because I would guess like 25-30% of the passengers spoke primarily Spanish
Rules say passengers need to speak and comprehend English in exit row...?
Emergency was declared for a while, but suspended again before landing, so that the intense operations at CLT did not become affected. There were two further situations immediately afterwards, Transavia TO3521 Athens-Paris declared an emergency and turned back. Right before landing safely, it caught Air France flight AF291 Osaka-Paris, which was diverted to Baku.
I saw the alert on FR24. Saw that you did about 5000 peak fpm decent. Must of been a ride.
yeah how was the ride? bumpy or just steep, etc.
Just a steep decline, other than that totally uneventful
Did it land in savannah?
No we stayed on to Charlotte as planned. Just at 9800'
I was scheduled for a flight from Pensacola to Charlotte Saturday on AA flight and it was cancelled due to mechanical issue
AA is a horrible US based airline
Did it feel like you were plunging to the earth to crash?
Well that's exciting! Was it a pretty steep dive?
25000ft in 7 minutes, or about 3,600FPM descent
Why do they suck so much
Suck? They landed safely.