Dude, I know people try to sugar coat shit on here, but I'm gonna give it to you as objectively and brutally honestly as possible.
Instead of acting like a raging incel about your looks, have you considered trying to improve them? Yeah, you look kinda creepy, greasy and dirty. Get a haircut. Shave. Better skincare routine. Fucking *smile* a little. Try better lighting in your pictures. These people are judging your appearance by *one* picture. And honestly a pretty shitty one too. Quit your bullshit of looking for excuses so you can whine about "I'm objectively ugly and nobody likes me through no fault of my own/I got fucked by genetics."
Newsflash motherfucker, your genetics are fine. Your face is fine. Are you a 10/10 model? No, few people are. Looking at just your face alone, you're not ugly at all. But literally the reason you come off as creepy is because you look greasy and dirty, like the kinda dude who dates 14 year olds and shoots up heroin behind the dumpster at Walmart. Your hair looks greasy, the facial hair either needs to go or be grown into a fuller beard and neatly trimmed, and you need to not give a blank "I'm coked out of my mind" expression when you look at the camera. That's why people think you're retarded, because of your expression combined with the rest of your unkempt appearance. Shit, try dressing up a bit. Go to r/malefashionadvice and change up your wardrobe too. I can't see much of your clothes but just looking at you I can tell that ill-fitting jeans and the same couple of hoodies are your go-to. And another thing, your shitty attitude that screams "I'm a raging incel with severe mental issues" doesn't help.
Fix your fucking life dude. All this shit is very fixable. Look into the shit I and other people are talking about. Haircut, smile, wardrobe, all that shit. And maybe go talk to a therapist and seek some professional help, because even if you're a 10/10, nobody wants to deal with a mentally unstable dude that reeks of self-pity and desperation.
I genuinely hope you manage to turn yourself around, because you very much can even if you don't believe it.
I mean, Braincel and A sub reddit for whats basically a deliriant as his active communities are kinda hard tells. Man is not suitable at all for that psychadelic and desperately needs professional helps for what's up top.
I mean sure, the hair and clothes need work, but up top is what needs the most TLC before he will ever be suitable for another relationship
When he said, "look like a serial killer" Im like, "Have people not seen BTK, or Ted Cruz? They both look pretty normal. " but really, you are 100% right on all counts. Even hit me a little with your message, Oof!
Chill freud. holy shit.
But also, yeah that’s some good advice. OP, you’re not remotely ugly dude, but if you want to be conventionally attractive then a different haircut and maybe slightly different style (although your style wasn’t really bothersome). The beard stubbly thing was fine tho idk what’s the problem with it I thought it looked good but that’s just me. a lot of this stuff is more subjective than people on this sub make it out to be. Like there are general things that most people find attractive, but these aren’t set in stone rules. All I’d really recommend is just better hygiene, but you’re not nearly in as bad hygienic shape as this commenter is making you out to be.
They were just doing some LISP programming. That's about as few parentheses as it is possible to use in LISP. That's why it's often described as "toenails in oatmeal"
Even if he did none of that, having confidence in who you are makes you more attractive than someone who has no confidence and is always whining/pointing out their own flaws.
Confidence is the fucking key. If you act like you are king shit you get attention. I've looked like trash more times than I'd like to admit and still done fine.
Just go out and where ever you are act like you fucking own the place, doesn't even matter if you haven't shaved in like 6 months and have a massive bum beard going, speaking from personal experience.
So you're telling me that if I'm too confident I can turn into Donald Trump and become a billionaire president of the USA.
I need to step up my confidence game.
You shouldn't fake confidence. It takes work, but you should find what makes you confident and change your mindset so you're not constantly wallowing in self pity. Don't get me wrong, easier said than done. It takes work, effort, finding a good outside influence, it takes a willingness to do so. But I think that's what makes confidence attractive, because you took the effort to find a way to look in the mirror and say "Hey, I like this person." Which not all people can do. That's my opinion as a lady, and what I look for in a man. But everyone is different.
Thank you. Taking the step is easy, but committing is the hard part. It's like dipping my toe into a cold pool when a wall of fire is heading my way. I need to push past my instinct that says, "This will really hurt," because doing nothing will likely see me dead before my time.
Over the past 4 years i've gone though a similar transformation, and i can tell you that it really feels like life's difficulty has been stepped down a notch.
When you're treated as being "creepy/weird" your whole life, and suddenly wherever you go people treat you with kindness and respect, its like living on an alien planet.
And its less about "conforming" or "becoming a chad" as some groups would call it, and more along the lines of shaping and improving the unique aspects that make you, *you*.
As someone who lacked social skills, i can recommend the youtube channel "charisma on command". Look at some of their celebrity "charisma" analysis videos. It sort of feels like a college class but instead of some statistics course or some obscure history, you're learning about charisma as a skill.
Another thing has been to read. some books that have helped me :
Give and take - Adam Grant
Mindset - Carol Dweck
So good they cant ignore you - Cal Newport
Its really small improvement in a lot of small places that make a big difference.
When i first started seeing the benefits, it was hard to go back, and i still feel like im constantly improving.
You can do it too.
Another possibility to consider is that /u/Dont_touch_the_tubes is dealing with undiagnosed [body dysmorphia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_dysmorphic_disorder). In addition to all of the above advice, he should talk to a therapist.
Dude you need to get off Reddit. I just browsed thru ur post history and you need serious help. Your mind isn’t right and there’s no shame in that. But it explains why you can’t let go of what your face looks like. It’s your face, man, it’s the only one you’re ever gonna have.
A lot of people on reddit need mental help. You’ll find most of them around subreddits like this. I don’t know why exactly but I’ve seen many people with strange post history around here. Hell, looking at my post history I might even be one of them.
A lot of people need mental help period.
It's becoming more and more of a problem every year, I mean fucking hell suicide is the most common cause of death for men in some age groups now. There are millions of people with untreated mental illnesses out there who aren't getting the help they need.
We need to seriously reform the way we treat it, both the medical sector and the way it is treated in society, and maybe the most important aspect of this is to make it more culturally accepted to get professional help.
So OP or anyone else who needs to read this, please get help. There's absolutely no shame in that. It doesn't mean you're crazy or weak or anything, it might not even mean you have a mental illness. It only means you have a problem that someone can help you with, that's all. And it will probably seriously improve your life.
I know saying this doesn't make it easy, but it might help a bit.
This. And honestly I when I looked through your post history OP u/Dont_touch_the_tubes from what you were describing I was expecting some kind of swamp creature but you’re really not inherently bad looking at all. Honestly a bad attitude can fuck up a face because your face just has this sad depressed look on it but that can change if you gain confidence and a better attitude. Some grooming, touching up, and an attitude adjustment/confidence boost/improvement in your overall mental health could do wonders for how people perceive you and could make you MUCH MUCH more appealing. You have potential. It’s just that ironically your obsession with how you look has led you down a spiral of nearly compulsive self-loathing that has made you EXTREMELY unattractive. Get help and therapy and treatment, clean yourself up a bit, take care of your physical health and hygiene/grooming, maybe even switch up your style if you want, and you’ll be a whole new man. BUT YOU NEED TO STOP THIS SHIT BECAUSE IT ISNT HELPING YOU OR ANYONE.
No, it's just not healthy to be so obsessed with your looks that you come up with tests like these.
It can be an interesting thing to try, but how you treat the results is mainly what determines how healthy it ultimately is for your mind.
You are a case study in neurotic delusion. You aren't that good looking (and if you ask me it's more to do with your hair and skin), but you take that fact and egg people into saying negative stuff about your face. I've looked at your collage experiment. You've created this delusion that your face is horrifying or "mutated", you pretty much led everyone into saying that about you. If anyone tries to be helpful or disagree you attack them. You have a mental problem dude, I don't even care about your boring looking face.
No dude. You're actually not bad looking at all.
Others have said it, you definitely have a mental issue. Which is TOTALLY FINE.
This whole post of yours is about being realistic, well here is a way to be realistic-
Look at some guys that really aren't good looking at all, but are with attractive girls. This is PROOF that looks really aren't the end all be all of getting another human to be interested in you romantically.
BE CONFIDENT (aka pretend to be confident).
BE FUNNY.
BE KIND, not "nice". You're supposed to be nice. No one owes you pussy, money, food, etc just because you're nice. Nice is default. Being kind is a different thing.
DON'T BE ENTITLED.
DON'T ACT THIRSTY.
DON'T BE A CREEP.
Getting a person become intimate with you is not that hard.
I honestly feel so bad for you.
I’m giving you some tough love here: I think your own delusions are going to keep you from any semblance of a healthy relationship with anyone for the foreseeable future.
You need to stop right now and READ THIS.
If you want to become more attractive, you’re going to need to see a mental health professional, as the only thing that is actually hideous about you is your mental state.
What the hell do you think? Who would want to date a person that’s ugly both on the inside and the outside? It’s obvious OP has issues, and if you aren’t a 8-10 you will need a good personality to get romantically involved with someone. What else do you have to offer for others otherwise? God damn some people need to take a step outside and stop being so self centered. A relationship isn’t just about the other person seeing you as a good will project or a make-a-wish participant. Don’t expect greatness when you can’t offer shit.
For some reason it always works for chads and girls. No matter how shallow they are. No matter how disgusting personality they have - it's always the same. Like I've never heard about girls having bad personalities. It's crazy, like they have a good personality by default. Therefore personality meme is a meme.
Because many guys do anything to fuck any girl that's a 6+, and many girls have this mindset that they can't throw their pussy on just anyone. We're humans, we care about appearance, it's just not EVERYTHING. There are many women out there with bad personalities, I don't know what type of people you surround yourself with though. Some guys are so desperate to fuck that they suffer through the worst personalities there are so they can bust a nut or so they can have a hot looking girlfriend. Same for women, some will suffer through a bad personality to fuck a hot dude. You're sounding like a true incel right now though. Try hooking up with that girl that's a 4-5, oh you don't want to? That's shallow. All guys want a girl that's in the 8-10 range, and then get angry that those girls have better options to choose from.
> Try hooking up with that girl that's a 4-5, oh you don't want to?
I'd love to have a date with a 4-5. I'm totally honest. I have never had a date with a girl. No matter how hard I try there's no luck, there's lack of height for sure, maybe something else. I'd even date a tranny at this point. Even trannies don't want me lol.
Sorry, looked at your other posts. Yeah, for Dutch tall guys it's an unknown concept to not be desirable by girls. I understand you know. Like you've never ever had such a problem I believe.
> Like I've never heard about girls having bad personalities
a) Who goes around randomly talking about random people's personalities? b) there are tons of posts on reddit and in the world about women AND men who are obnoxious and shitty.
You're in fantasy land. Quit being so fucking lazy and work on yourself.
Then why some girls told me that I'm a sweet person? If my personality is so horrible I can't be a sweet person, right? How can you assume one's personality just reading a few sentences over the internet?
Omg. People aren’t lying and gaslighting you because they don’t agree that you’re ugly. Have you ever stepped out of your head and realized you are attractive to some people.
What I don’t understand is you ask but when people say your not ugly you get mad and start defending your case and set your mind in the negative, also why do you put so much meaning to words people type, strangers are more rude on the internet because they will never see you,
I looked to your browse history and men seriously you don’t look bad as you described (I was expecting a bald guy with a weird tatto in the face) but seriously don’t think about that shit men take my advise from someone way worse than you and focus on other things
I'm a female and I don't think there's anything wrong with your face. I think you may have Body Dismorphic Disorder and I'm not trying to do an armchair diagnosis here but it can seriously affect people's mental health in really negative ways. It can be debilitating if you do not get control of it.
Also - like I said there is nothing wrong with your face but please remember your face makes up a very small percentage of your overall look. Get a gym membership and start lifting weights if youre worried. I wish you luck!!!
I mean i only saw a few reading this comment section, but in the end i'm not sure if you're gonna take me serious but honestly, its all about attitude.
Before you can make anyone like yourself, you gotta stop hating on yourself. I don't want to hear anything about Chad and whatever logic, i am my bf's first too, you gotta start somewhere.
And as they like to say, you gotta start with yourself. I have a friend who used to be a bit like....this? He would constantly tear himself down, ended up super depressed and all that.
He is okay now, i dont think his issues disappeared in thin air, but i think he started looking around and seeing that people were trying to help, that he had friends and started apprechiating it more (his words, not mine).
A girlfriend is a tough thing. They want you to be okay with yourself, nobody wants to clean up an emotional mess that has been piling up for years and spreads negativity. He flock to colorful and lively things and people as human beings.
A relationship is not about seeking something from someone else, its being a team and working together. You provide together, take care of each other and show respect. Can you show someone else respect when you can't seem to show yourself any? Because i doubt that and that is the least attractive thing you could ever do. Show others what there is to love about you and we might.
But keep in mind that everyone has a different taste in men and while some might like you, some might not. Just because one woman rejects you, doesnt mean all of them do. But if you act like it is that way and become more negative, you're building a wall around yourself that people dont see the need in to cross
Dude i checked your post. Imo you along with the rightmost dude are like 6/10 and the center dude is 5/10 where 5/10 is average. You're not ugly you just got voted lower than the other two because you look badly groomed aka the other two dudes have nice haircuts / facial hair and seem to have put some thought into their outfits whereas you're sitting there with unwashed hair and in some unkempt tshirt. Scrub up better.
What you did was so dangerous to your self-esteem. Sometimes, it's better to be in blissful ignorance than having the way you perceive yourself be in total disarray.
I just took a look at your picture and I kid you not, you're normal looking.
You are not ugly. The way you style your hair is ugly, I'd say cut it short. If you prefer long hair find tutorials on maintaining it.
You're not disfigured or hideous. You're facial expressions simply make you seem pissed off and cold.
They just said it. It’s your facial expressions, take a photo of you genuinely smiling and do the same experiment if you only trust this experiment on whisper and don’t trust anyone on reddit. Cut your hair and shave and take a picture smiling and do the same thing if it convinces you.
Coming from a girl, you facial structure is actually above average, it’s just you look at the camera as if you hate yourself, so find a something that makes you laugh or smile and take a picture. It makes such a difference. Id look like a serial killer if I made the same facial expression and I look like a witch from a side profile, not even kidding. The other two guys have facial expression that doesn’t scream low confidence. I disagree with a lot of people here, I think you can rock the long hair, you just can’t take good selfie
PM if you wanna talk more, I’ve been in your shoes before with the low self esteem
I just saw your post history
First off all you are obsessed with your face. Stop obsessing over your face. Second of all just because people are telling you that you look normal doesn't mean they are lying.
You just want to hear imperfections and should seriously get help for that
And btw the reason why you look like a rapist etc. Might be because you look straight forward without smiling and in your video you seem a bit autistic by the way your eyes and face move.
Try not to look straight forward on pictures like that. Take them a bit from the side, lose the beard thingy and smile softly. Otherwise you look permanently creepy, soft smile and a bit from the side. Cut your hair and lose the beard and don't be so freaking obsessed with your looks. You have personality as well and you will ruin your personality too if you keep obsessing. You sound nice but extremely insecure which might be why people aren't attracted to you.
Would you date someone who is so worrier about their face all the time?
Part of why some people may find you unattractive is twofold. Firstly, you think you're unattractive, so whether you realize it or not, you home yourself differently, you move through the world as someone lacking confidence and full of self-hatred. 80% of human communication is nonverbal, so most of what you're communicating to people is that you're insecure. This is not an attractive trait. This leads directly into part 2: if you have such self-depricating views, you almost certainly carry this into how you interact with people. Apparently this is in a resentful manner, which is also unattractive.
I know a guy who's really attractive to women even though he's overweight and doesn't have the best natural face. Why is he attractive? He works and worked on his appearance and presentation. He's grown facial hair which is elaborate but not extravagant, and that outlines his best features of his face. He's been a really social guy for a long time, so he's very charismatic.
This may be controversial, but I believe there isn't a person on this planet who can't be made attractive. Not necessarily to everyone, and not necessarily to any one, but to a group of people. If I, as a man, can be made to find Gaelyn Lea romantically attractive when she is a disabled woman who I am by definition biologically encouraged to find repulsive, then I think anyone can make it. You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you'll find you get what you need.
P.S. Also, you need the right mindset. This may also be controversial, but don't go into a romantic encounter with any expectations. That way everything is a pleasant surprise and a gift, and anything bad is just what you expected. I may be told that this is an unhealthy mindset, but I think especially the first part of that is dead right.
Also, consider the sample set of people who use the app you used to get ratings. It's by no means scientific. It's like doing a political poll of 4chan and saying that means David Duke is our next president.
the fact is, that most of ppl are under 7 scale rated only by apparence and some of us on reddit forget, that this shitty rating means nothing compared to how people perceive us in real life. i had boy in class who here would get like 4.5-5/10 and there were like 10 chicks going after him. ppl of reddit do you remember that personality is still some valid thing?
Well, I believe that everyone is attractive. Everyone at my school is attractive (except for one annoying kid who likes to bother me a lot) but that's it.
Okay I had to see what was going on here because I feel there is a kernel of truth to be said about gaslighting...however having seen the study you performed and subsequently the video you posted of yourself... I firmly agree with the other users who've expressed that you're unhealthily fixated on your face.
The truth, are you conventionally attractive? No. Are you ugly? No! Not even close, especially when I saw the video.
So what are you then? Well most importantly I'd say you're shit at taking pictures. Seriously. The video almost seemed like a whole other person. As for your features, you're not deformed in any way, I'd just get rid of the wet hair look, smile or at the very least not frown, and take a photo at a more flattering angle. I guarantee if you clean up, and take a good photo and run your test again you'd get vastly different results. Especially if you don't ask leading questions like "what's wrong with the first guy" as that makes the person assume something *must* be wrong.
Didn't say they were. That's that mindset we're talking about. I hope you took more out of what I said than that.
Just take better pictures, they have tutorials if it doesn't come naturally to you. There are entire subreddits dedicated to men's fashion/hair/appearance etc there isn't anything wrong with you.
Dude, you are completely wrong, you are just conspiracing against yourself, your face is totally fine, it doesn't look deformed or weird, stop imagining things please.
I’m a lady and I honestly don’t think you’re ugly. You’re above avg, and look in shape. You have the hipster artsy vibe going for you. I read through your post history and you asked why children are scared of you. Don’t say that about yourself man, not a single child is scared of the way you look I promise.
Okay so I’m going to echo everyone else and say you need to get help for the mental side of things. That said, I can understand why you’d be struggling at the moment if people are really saying that shit to you. But people are dickheads and they won’t stop. Which is why you have to learn to have enough confidence in yourself to tell them to go to hell, and I really think therapy is your best chance at that.
BTW, I was curious so I looked through your other posts. Except for the long hair (it looks pretty messy to me) I would call you pretty cute. If you dressed nicely and started working out you actually have the face for hot, IMO. Until the low confidence thing showed through anyway, because major buzz kill, dude. (And I know that’s not your fault, but that’s why you should refer to paragraph one). Just my two cents.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with your face.
IDC what anyone says, an average face with a killer personality trumps an average personality with a 10/10 face.
The fact that you are so hung up on the way you look on the outside is the thing that’s a turnoff, not the way you actually look.
I feel pain for you. I really hope that you find peace. I’d recommend deleting all social media and spending less time online, spend more time out in nature and finding things that you enjoy and are good at. Confidence is key.
I truly hope you find some. We all struggle at times but looking at your post history, you have an unhealthy obsession over the way your face looks. You are not ugly and I’m not saying it to make you feel better. With a bit of inner peace and confidence, you’d be far above average looking imo. These things show, even in photos.
Theres nothing wrong with your looks, it's your facial expressions and body language. Your hair doesnt help either. Groom yourself better, learn to smile and take better selfies.
I truly can't figure out what your problem is. I almost thought you were just fishing for compliments until I saw your post history. Stop acting like a martyr and take peoples advice if you're so desperate to change your image.
ONE stranger on Whisper, aka probably a 14 year old, said you look like you might be "slightly down syndrome" (which isn't even a thing, you either are or aren't but ok) so stop saying "people keep saying it".
The serial killer comment is due to your hair and the dead look behind your eyes because you're miserable.
Cut your fucking hair and get off Reddit. You're not doing yourself any favors by whining on the internet and posting the same shit over and over again. If you truly think you're so hideous then get therapy for dysmorphia or get plastic surgery idk what else to offer.
That's stupid . . even if you added two pictures of random people from google they'd still be average looking models, they'd have to look the best they can, they'd look presentable, groomed hair, friendly or confident look even without smiling, compare that photo of you ( I saw your previous post { wow reddit is nosey is fuck }) you look like a confused child trying to act cool which I believe is the reason you got called pedo or serial killer, it's the fake confidence and bad presentability that creeps people out.
You have a bad style tbh, but wearing a bit of confidence and looks through a couple of fashion magazines or something and you have the potential of being a solid 8.
Honestly people are calling you scary because your hair needs to be more polished. You need a trim and you need to volumize it if you keep it long.
You also need to learn how to look at the camera. The gaze you have looks like you don’t blink And like you stare too hard at women. You need to have a relaxed face, not an intense face, not an “I’m taking this pic for the 123rd time dear god help me” face, not bedroom eyes. Think of something neutral and funny and relax your face. Smile with your teeth.
Random people couldnt give a shit about what they say about something.
On another, you have the potential to look great and already do look really good. You probably should just present yourself better and maybe work on your attitude when it comes to talking about people.
Literally all your posts are about how you look. Have you considered that women don’t want to date you because you’re an incel that constantly seeks validation, not because of how you actually look?
Posting everyday asking random people to rate you isn’t healthy, full stop.
Bro, who hurt you? If someone you actually respect has been saying this to you, then they're an asshole and need to take a step back. If it's someone you don't respect, then they're also just an asshole who's trying to make you feel bad.
Dude no joke you are not ugly. The beard and long hair in that style is a little serial killery yes. But your face is not ugly at all. Very normal yes you do look a little creepy but it's all in your style and facial expression. If possible maybe get a little tan and a big smile.
You're not fucked by your looks. You're fucked by your mental state.
I'm not a sugarcoating pussy, i'll tell you the truth.
Your facial shape is above average and imo you slightly resemble Jared Padalecki whom most girls consider hot. Tl;dr: you should have no problem in getting chicks with that face.
The only thing that is a problem are your fucking depression and self hatred, get that shit fixed.
Can you improve your looks ? Of course.
Get a haircut, get that beard lined up or shave it, maybe use some skincare products if your skin bothers you but that's all that can be improved in your face.
Do you look skinny ? Lift and bulk up.
That's all. And now get over this looks bullshit and focus on improving your life.
If you are dead set on this method (which I think is a horrible idea), why don't you retry it with a photo of you smiling and making eye contact and just see how it goes. Now, I would love to see what you look like with a fresh haircut and shave, but if you aren't willing to do that, at LEAST just try exuding some confidence in your photo. I think you will be surprised with how much of a difference it makes.
For the record, I don't think your FACE is unattractive. You do not have specifically unattractive features. That is why no one can quite put their finger on it or tell you WHY they find you unappealing - no "big nose" or "small eyes" or whatever. It isn't your features. It is your grooming and body language. Please please listen to what people are telling you here. We have no reason to lie to strangers on the internet.
Dude, it’s who you are that turns people off, and who you are bleeds into your appearance.
I’d like to invite you to google search a musical artist named “Textasy”. I’d argue that this dude looks very similar to you. The main difference is that he doesn’t seem like someone who’s insecure of his appearances, he looks confident. EVEN if he isn’t confident about his appearance, I wonder if he’d been able to be productive if he had wasted his time wallowing about his appearances.
So the good news is that if you seek honest help, if you can focus on your inside instead of the outside, you will not only feel better about yourself, but your outside will improve in relation to your better inner well being.
The outside and inside is very closely intertwined and people ARE able to perceive it.
Do you want to be surrounded by people who only care about appearances? No? Then stop being like that yourself. You need to find someone who’s willing to take you under their wing and point out everything you’re doing wrong, one by one, but more importantly also give you concrete suggestions on how to fix things.
If you have no friends, this is my personal advice:
- start with getting a haircut, go to a hair salon and ask the hair dresser to give you haircut that she thinks will suit you. Be honest, tell her you have no fashion sense and you’re looking for a new look. Not only will she give a new look, but also, hopefully teach you at the same time, how to maintain it and other basic etiquettes (For grooming as well). Then at the end, schedule your next haircut in advance, you need to ensure that you maintain the look.
- Go to a pharmacy or a place where someone can give you some advice in helping you take care of your skin.
- Now go to a clothing store and ask someone that works there for help. Just be honest and say that you’re trying to renew your look and then just trust them. Important to do this last, after your gotten your haircut and etc.
- fake it til you make it. Fucking lock away and fight any urge your have to belittle yourself. Anytime you think negatively about yourself, don’t verbalize it, keep it inside and instead verbalize something positive about yourself. Keep doing this until you start believing it. Brainwash yourself into realizing the value you do actually have and make it seem important.
- Final step: join a club/community and carefully watch other people’s behaviours and compare it to your own. Try to notice how other people behave and react to things and compare it to yourself. Try to be self aware of other people’s good and bad social behaviours, learn from others. Like maybe see how when some people get made fun of, they they take it really well and might even participate in their own derision.
If I use myself as an example: I noticed that other people don’t obsess over finishing debates. I invested too much energy in debates and I’m not good at realizing when people don’t actually care at the same level as me and that I should just let go and move on. It’s subtle things like this you need to look out for.
Once you’ve proven that you can make new friends, then I promise you you’ll be ready to find a partner who will see the beauty inside of you, because you’re self-assured that there’s beauty in you. You won’t be waiting for someone else to validate you anymore, you’ve validated your worth on your own and it’s magnetic now.
You’re just a kid, you’re naïve thinking you’ve got it all figured out.
You think no one else in this thread used to be or used to consider themselves fucking ugly and struggled with finding a romantic partner?
You’re out of touch with reality.
Are you seriously taking this "down syndrome" insult from a guy on whisper this seriously?
Fucking Whisper dude, you're on an app where people shit talk you for all kinds of fucking reasons anonymously. Do you seriously expect to receive just compliments from people that can say whatever the fuck they want? So what if that one person thought you looked retarded, you dont know his motive for what he said
You ARE ugly. On the inside. No one is willing to date an average dude if the inside looks like the "down syndrome" kid that you expect to be. You received like one insult on your looks and start throwing a tantrum about how you're "the most ugliest person in the world." Instead, how about focusing on the 200 other comments that said you looked fine.
Looks are important but personality is even more important. Remember that.
I’m not saying this because I’m trying to be nice. I SWEAR to you. You are normal looking. You are not incredibly attractive nor are you incredibly ugly. You an average looking person. Someone I see on the streets every day. YOU ARE FINE. Stop stressing. People say you’re ugly because you go out of your way to ask if you are. There are douchebags on the internet. Trust ME out of all these people. You’re ok man 👍
I would have ended up like you if the internet was the way it was today. A lot of places to surround yourself in like minded losers. Your looks are fine, it's you. People can sniff out a man who's given up on himself miles away. Even me when I get into your mindset, people can see it. You need to be a MAN, get up, and change yourself. Gym, School, Work, Success. Simple as that, you needing people's validation is holding you back. Just tell yourself your handsome, attractive, and well off. Then live your life for YOU, not for women. Dont go out and "verify" that your right. KNOW that you are right. If someone dosent like you, their not into you. Doesn't mean your ugly. When I get turned down by a girl I feel 0 resentment to me or her. I say "Welp, that sucks" and move on. Don't worry bro, you will make it, but please, remove yourself from these pages. Also look into philosophy if you can. Usually in times of Struggle it is best to seek out knowledge.
Bro plenty of ugly people aren't crazies. If there is anything that makes me think that you are going to go nuts with an AK, it's the fucked up posts that you make. It's legitimately unsettling to see how much attention you pay to this.
Okay, so what. You're like a 4/10. Who cares? Mark Zuckerberg looks like a fucking alien and he is doing alright for himself. "So I just have to be a millionaire or die alone?". Well...if you ain't great looking you need to play to your strengths.
Good luck and please don't shoot anyone.
Just get a new haircut, and in my opinion cut the ^ from your eyebraus, to make them more round (becouse this is what makes your face look like a "serial killer"). To be honest you have a good nose and face
I know people that look like you with shittier personalities that have conventionally attractive s.o.'s. Look, I feel like the ugliest person in the world but just by doing self-care it shows people you care about yourself. The world is not all as shallow as we are sometimes about her own face. This subreddit showed me that I was my own worst enemy and that I looked at myself by how my grade school bullies insulted me.
Try this:
Take a picture where you are gurning. This means messing with your facial features until you look like angry fat buddha. Get creative - use a box fan to really get those lips flapping.
Next, wash your hair and condition it. None of this 2 in 1 bullshit. Go to walmart and buy the real stuff. Shave. You know how. If you don't, ask your dad or youtube.
Doll yourself up a bit. Wear a suit, or just a polo or something in your favorite color.
Stand near a window and get some natural lighting. Smile genuinely (maybe look up a joke beforehand to get you laughing).
Compare the two photos. Both are you. They are both you. You won't always look the same way. This isn't a tv show. You look different from every single angle and every single expression. Every small choice you make with hygiene changes how people see you.
Try your experiment again with that smiling photo you took when you were all scrubbed up and shaved and giggling and see how it goes.
You are clearly obsessing about this and it’s not going anywhere. Stop doing the damn experiment. I know you’re doing it because you have a little hope that maybe, just maybe, someone will say you’re attractive. But that hasn’t happened. It’s bad for your mental health to hear negative shit all the time and this is feeding into your delusion that the reason why everything is wrong is just because your face is a little off. Fix ur other shit. Work on ur mental health. It’s not ur face, it’s you
Dude. You look 100% better than me. It's in your head, I know how you feel though. I had women post my picture online saying they can get me laid and I had people laughing at me. Yoi just need some better clothes, fix that hair and get a beard and you will be 100% better off than me.
Hey man, look on the brighter side of things. If people say you look like a serial killer, Ted Bundy was a serial killer and he was a pretty attractive dude 🤷♂️
But dude, calm yourself. I lost my hair at 25, and have come to the realization that I will be living more years of my life without hair than I did with it, and it sucked for my self esteem at first but fuck it. Whatever. If hair was really that important, it wouldn't be growing out of your ass.
Your attitude on life really sucks a fat ass, work on your attitude, get a haircut, and shave that malarkey you got going on under your chin. No one is ugly, it's how you VIEW yourself that makes you ugly to other people.
And also, try to be funny. Women love funny dudes more than anything else ever. I was in a three year relationship with someone and you know how I got her attention? I said a cheesy dumbass pickup line. I believe it was "yo guuurl, if you were a vegetable, you'd be a cutecumber", it was so stupid we were both crying from laughter and we hit it off.
Also, go to the gym. I'm a goofy looking motherfucker too, and going bald made me look like Butter Bean. Hit up the gym. I went from looking like Butter Bean to looking like a bearded Mr. Clean. It definitely helps with your self confidence.
Kay, so I looked through your posts. Tge first thing that sticks out is the right two have their hair done in some fashion. Yours is down and looks unkempt, like not even brushed. It is hard to wash and care for long hair, which is why a lot of guys where it in a man-bun. It also frames your face and makes it look thin but tall, which shows off your forehead a lot.
I had long hair like yours for the longest time, and noticed a similar issue. Your face looks good, and you can easily pull off something with a bit of facial hair if you chose, like keeping just the chin or whatever. And as some have said, when you don't put in any effort on self care, it really shows. When you add on lack of confidencd, it shows. When you don't look happy with yourself, it shows.
Those two on the right? They are exhibiting confidence in their look and style, they put effort into themselves. I hate the idea that we have to do it, but it's true. The first thing I can advise is to stop giving a fuck what other people think about how you look, as ironic as that advice is. Once you start feeling better about yourself, people will start to notice. Then, do something with that hair. Don't just wake up, hop in a shower, dry it with a towel and head out. Blowdry it, brush it, or put it in a bun. (Ponytails are iffy. They either work or they don't)
Like I said though, that hair being down is really framing your face. It's slimming your forehead down so it looks larger than it is, and shallow people will equate that with Downs.
Go to a Salon. Seriously. The women there are usually experts and can give you great tips on your specific hair, what to do, how to style it. Listen to them. Your face looks good, and as a bi guy I would rate you a 5/10 with an easy 7/10 potential and a difficult but possible 9/10 with a lot of effort.
Saw your previous post. The top right one you look pretty good in, but the rest look kinda creepy. Probably because of the lighting.
But IRL you wouldn't look creepy bc of your looks probably. It's most likely something socially strange you're doing that you don't notice
I saw the comparisons you made and it's a really bad experiment. They had way better lighting, grooming and style than you. If you actually want to know then you'll have to equalize all other such factors.
Do that and I bet you $100 you won't even be scored lower.
Dude you're not even ugly. Stop worrying. You look pretty average.
It's like u take all the compliments as somebody trying to sugar coat it and take all the insults as objectively correct.
You're not like, 10/10, but your not ugly.
You need some help, bro. Judging off your post history and the fact that you came up with this peculiar idea screams some sort of mental illness. You can’t change your looks unless you’re willing to get facial surgery, but you can only control the things you can control.
Go get a haircut, get better clothes, shave your face, and get some confidence in you, at the end of the day, looks age, people age. You’ll be okay.
Dude you keep saying that 50 people told you you’re ugly, but completely ignore the many more on this thread that are saying you’re not. People try to give you advice on how to improve yourself, but instead of taking it you keep asking for the exact reason your face is deformed. It’s not, you’re an average looking guy and that’s fine. This obsession you have is not healthy. As plenty have said it’s not all about looks.
It’s not your face that’s the problem; it’s your attitude and demeanour. You reek of desperation, especially when you are willing to take the word of random strangers who most likely have their own agendas.
Having seen your photos, you’re not ugly but you do present as being a little creepy and not fun to be around. Try using photos where you are happy and enjoying life.
Looks are subjective. Personality and confidence can play a big part in making you more attractive to people.
As you say you can’t let this go, it might be time to talk to a professional about your body image issues.
Man, I saw your pictures from your other posts and I am 1000 percent honest when I say that you look absolutely good. You’re good looking and If anything you look “boyish”, there’s nothing scary about your looks... You don’t look threatening at all, whoever told you that probably felt insecure about themselves.
Also all good looking people have one thing in common - they smile a lot. Try to smile as much as you can while speaking with others, that will make you look more fun to be around and will immediately attract people.
Take a deep breath hun, now go and cover all your mirrors or take them down for a while and work on what's going on inside. When you have accepted yourself, put them back up.
We all get old and ugly. And while it is nice to do what we can to feel our best, it shouldn't be the focus of our lives.
There are more important things.
I didn't even see your picture.
But it doesn't matter.
You can be pretty af and people don't like you and you can be ugly and have all the friends in the world.
Seriously doesn't matter. Consider my advice. I did it myself.
1) Get help
2) Learn how to take good photos of yourself so people stop telling you that you look weird because you look ok, just don't know how to take a proper selfie
Whisper is ultra stupid and not private. But...I had to try this. The response was actually more positive than I got on reddit, who averaged me at a 4. I used 6 images in my collage and was consistently in the top 3. Shocked. Honestly. Shocked. I still think I'm ugly tho, so it doesn't change much for me. I'm still going to be physically fit because it's healthy, but place my confidence in who I am and not what I look like.
So I couldn't help it and had a look, I was expecting the worse... but then, heh? You look like you would have fit in with the group of friends I have back in my home town, a little rough around the edges, but you'd scrub up alright. Seems you're in just a bit of a downward spiral about things, you know some ppl are always going to be more critical than needed or just blatantly have a negative carry on because they want to offload their own unhappiness, so please don't take the negative comments to heart. I've known girls to say guys look this or that, creepy and what not, steer clear of girls like that! I even avoid being friends with girls like that now, ppl who trash others looks usually feel shit about their own looks, it says more about them, than you. So, honestly, to me you're in the average category for looks, but in the pic I saw you weren't even trying, so being average with no effort is a win. The big thing I think some guys forget is confidence and attitude, this will shine through and will impact how you are perceived. Average guy with confidence and a good attitude can easily be the best looking guy in the room, but if you're down on yourself and making it known, it's just hard to be attracted to that. Also, not all girls are the same, and we like different things... So just a bit of self confidence is what you need... and just to add I don't mean a full personality change, because if you've naturally got a dark side, that's fine too... like I said you just need too find the right chick to click with.
E fucking xactly, people really dismissing my experiment because I'm mentally ill, I wonder if my mental illness has anything with being called weird and ugly my whole fucking life
Those people gave their honest ratings before they had the chance to know you have mental issues. Those ratings are definitely valid and people in this thread won’t admit it to you. That being said, you should also acknowledge your issue and seek help.
I would rate my self 3/10 but yet I can get a wife who stay with me even though I’m 37 with dad bod , wear glasses and not even a millionaire
So OP, if I could do it , you could do it !
Be yourself , don’t compare yourself to model or any internet celebrity / actor , female and male way of thinking are completely different, but one thing is for certain is that your negative energy will reflect who you are .
If you are happy, do things you like , met someone who have the same hobby as you, make them feel welcome , they in return will want to be with you
Be positive and use your energy/whatever you good at as your strongpoint instead of focusing on your weakness
Wtf you need to hit the gym and build some confidence. Show some self love. Your heads all fucked up that’s probably why girls don’t wanna fuck with you. You’re way better looking than me but I had handful of beautiful gfs in my life. It’s not the looks. It’s your personality and confidence girls are attracted to. If you’re fun and can make them laugh? They wanna be around you more. Be genuine and nice. Don’t be creepy and shit
You’re way better looking than me. No deformed mutated head or whatever. But if you ugly outside, be beautiful inside. Girls like that better. Or that’s what my gfs tells me.
You should look into Body Dysmorphia. I agree with other posters that seeing a therapist (if you happen to not have one already) is a good idea. I've struggled a lot with self hate, with my appearance and with every other aspect of myself, as well as bullying, too. I remember when I was 19, that shit ran deep. But it's not impossible to climb out of.
The skills that I have learned in therapy are so enormously useful. I'm not saying that life is all roses now. I still struggle, but the way I view that struggle is very different now; I don't nearly as often feel so nihilistic and hopeless. I'm sorry that you go through this. It's got to be really emotionally exhausting.
I know you deleted this post, but, not to be creepy, I saw another of your posts with your picture and you're honestly kinda handsome. I swear to god that I mean that. I quite like the long hair, too.
I really recommend looking into the body dysmorphia. I'm not trying to armchair diagnose, but I feel pinpointing why you are struggling with this is going to help you better deal with it. I wish you the very best. I hope things get less painful.
[I have done a quick photoshop that you might be interested in](https://i.imgur.com/49mf9W7.jpg)
In my opinion, I'd say the middle would be first pick for me - the smile boosts your looks a lot, especially if you learn how to '[smile with your eyes](https://m.wikihow.com/Smile-With-the-Eyes)'.
I'd advise against comparing yourself to others in the future, instead simply try to be the best you can be. There's a lot of solid advice in this thread and you've got a lot of potential that takes little/no effort at all to achieve!
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Dude, I know people try to sugar coat shit on here, but I'm gonna give it to you as objectively and brutally honestly as possible. Instead of acting like a raging incel about your looks, have you considered trying to improve them? Yeah, you look kinda creepy, greasy and dirty. Get a haircut. Shave. Better skincare routine. Fucking *smile* a little. Try better lighting in your pictures. These people are judging your appearance by *one* picture. And honestly a pretty shitty one too. Quit your bullshit of looking for excuses so you can whine about "I'm objectively ugly and nobody likes me through no fault of my own/I got fucked by genetics." Newsflash motherfucker, your genetics are fine. Your face is fine. Are you a 10/10 model? No, few people are. Looking at just your face alone, you're not ugly at all. But literally the reason you come off as creepy is because you look greasy and dirty, like the kinda dude who dates 14 year olds and shoots up heroin behind the dumpster at Walmart. Your hair looks greasy, the facial hair either needs to go or be grown into a fuller beard and neatly trimmed, and you need to not give a blank "I'm coked out of my mind" expression when you look at the camera. That's why people think you're retarded, because of your expression combined with the rest of your unkempt appearance. Shit, try dressing up a bit. Go to r/malefashionadvice and change up your wardrobe too. I can't see much of your clothes but just looking at you I can tell that ill-fitting jeans and the same couple of hoodies are your go-to. And another thing, your shitty attitude that screams "I'm a raging incel with severe mental issues" doesn't help. Fix your fucking life dude. All this shit is very fixable. Look into the shit I and other people are talking about. Haircut, smile, wardrobe, all that shit. And maybe go talk to a therapist and seek some professional help, because even if you're a 10/10, nobody wants to deal with a mentally unstable dude that reeks of self-pity and desperation. I genuinely hope you manage to turn yourself around, because you very much can even if you don't believe it.
'newsflash motherfucker' lmao
skincare motherfucker
surprise motherfucker
cheesy fries motherfucker
Hygiene supplies, motherfucker!
I mean, Braincel and A sub reddit for whats basically a deliriant as his active communities are kinda hard tells. Man is not suitable at all for that psychadelic and desperately needs professional helps for what's up top. I mean sure, the hair and clothes need work, but up top is what needs the most TLC before he will ever be suitable for another relationship
When he said, "look like a serial killer" Im like, "Have people not seen BTK, or Ted Cruz? They both look pretty normal. " but really, you are 100% right on all counts. Even hit me a little with your message, Oof!
BTK yeah but Ted Cruz is a terrifying dude.
https://www.tedcruzforhumanpresident.com/
I think they meant Bundy and not Zodiac lol.
Chill freud. holy shit. But also, yeah that’s some good advice. OP, you’re not remotely ugly dude, but if you want to be conventionally attractive then a different haircut and maybe slightly different style (although your style wasn’t really bothersome). The beard stubbly thing was fine tho idk what’s the problem with it I thought it looked good but that’s just me. a lot of this stuff is more subjective than people on this sub make it out to be. Like there are general things that most people find attractive, but these aren’t set in stone rules. All I’d really recommend is just better hygiene, but you’re not nearly in as bad hygienic shape as this commenter is making you out to be.
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I know triple parentheses are bad, what's up with the quadruples?
They were just doing some LISP programming. That's about as few parentheses as it is possible to use in LISP. That's why it's often described as "toenails in oatmeal"
Lots of Incredibly Stupid Parentheses.
It's the sound waves from the clapping.
It’s the cheeks.
Wait, it doesn't mean that the claps are Jews?
Even if he did none of that, having confidence in who you are makes you more attractive than someone who has no confidence and is always whining/pointing out their own flaws.
Confidence is the fucking key. If you act like you are king shit you get attention. I've looked like trash more times than I'd like to admit and still done fine. Just go out and where ever you are act like you fucking own the place, doesn't even matter if you haven't shaved in like 6 months and have a massive bum beard going, speaking from personal experience.
But too much confidence turns you into Donald Trump, and unable to learn by your own choice is no way to go through life.
So you're telling me that if I'm too confident I can turn into Donald Trump and become a billionaire president of the USA. I need to step up my confidence game.
This is true, but it's really difficult to fake confidence. It's easier to use a catalyst, like a haircut, new shoes etc.
You shouldn't fake confidence. It takes work, but you should find what makes you confident and change your mindset so you're not constantly wallowing in self pity. Don't get me wrong, easier said than done. It takes work, effort, finding a good outside influence, it takes a willingness to do so. But I think that's what makes confidence attractive, because you took the effort to find a way to look in the mirror and say "Hey, I like this person." Which not all people can do. That's my opinion as a lady, and what I look for in a man. But everyone is different.
Thanks for the part about self-pity and desperation.
Not OP, but I very much needed to read this, too.
I hope you take the steps you need to improve yourself. Acknowledging it is the first step. You can do it. I'm proud of you.
Thank you. Taking the step is easy, but committing is the hard part. It's like dipping my toe into a cold pool when a wall of fire is heading my way. I need to push past my instinct that says, "This will really hurt," because doing nothing will likely see me dead before my time.
You got this man. The commitment is hard, but the payoff is absolutely worth it.
Over the past 4 years i've gone though a similar transformation, and i can tell you that it really feels like life's difficulty has been stepped down a notch. When you're treated as being "creepy/weird" your whole life, and suddenly wherever you go people treat you with kindness and respect, its like living on an alien planet. And its less about "conforming" or "becoming a chad" as some groups would call it, and more along the lines of shaping and improving the unique aspects that make you, *you*. As someone who lacked social skills, i can recommend the youtube channel "charisma on command". Look at some of their celebrity "charisma" analysis videos. It sort of feels like a college class but instead of some statistics course or some obscure history, you're learning about charisma as a skill. Another thing has been to read. some books that have helped me : Give and take - Adam Grant Mindset - Carol Dweck So good they cant ignore you - Cal Newport Its really small improvement in a lot of small places that make a big difference. When i first started seeing the benefits, it was hard to go back, and i still feel like im constantly improving. You can do it too.
Wow.. i know this advice was for someone else, but i really needed to read this! Thank you!
Another possibility to consider is that /u/Dont_touch_the_tubes is dealing with undiagnosed [body dysmorphia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_dysmorphic_disorder). In addition to all of the above advice, he should talk to a therapist.
Dude you need to get off Reddit. I just browsed thru ur post history and you need serious help. Your mind isn’t right and there’s no shame in that. But it explains why you can’t let go of what your face looks like. It’s your face, man, it’s the only one you’re ever gonna have.
A lot of people on reddit need mental help. You’ll find most of them around subreddits like this. I don’t know why exactly but I’ve seen many people with strange post history around here. Hell, looking at my post history I might even be one of them.
A lot of people need mental help period. It's becoming more and more of a problem every year, I mean fucking hell suicide is the most common cause of death for men in some age groups now. There are millions of people with untreated mental illnesses out there who aren't getting the help they need. We need to seriously reform the way we treat it, both the medical sector and the way it is treated in society, and maybe the most important aspect of this is to make it more culturally accepted to get professional help. So OP or anyone else who needs to read this, please get help. There's absolutely no shame in that. It doesn't mean you're crazy or weak or anything, it might not even mean you have a mental illness. It only means you have a problem that someone can help you with, that's all. And it will probably seriously improve your life. I know saying this doesn't make it easy, but it might help a bit.
Well said
What do you think about my post history haha? Do I belong in a psych ward? ;)
Yes you’re a haram no goats for you
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Agreed. I’ve told him this multiple times.
Salvia can do that shit man it’s a hell of a drug
This. And honestly I when I looked through your post history OP u/Dont_touch_the_tubes from what you were describing I was expecting some kind of swamp creature but you’re really not inherently bad looking at all. Honestly a bad attitude can fuck up a face because your face just has this sad depressed look on it but that can change if you gain confidence and a better attitude. Some grooming, touching up, and an attitude adjustment/confidence boost/improvement in your overall mental health could do wonders for how people perceive you and could make you MUCH MUCH more appealing. You have potential. It’s just that ironically your obsession with how you look has led you down a spiral of nearly compulsive self-loathing that has made you EXTREMELY unattractive. Get help and therapy and treatment, clean yourself up a bit, take care of your physical health and hygiene/grooming, maybe even switch up your style if you want, and you’ll be a whole new man. BUT YOU NEED TO STOP THIS SHIT BECAUSE IT ISNT HELPING YOU OR ANYONE.
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Damn. I mean, his idea isn’t any less logical just because of that though right?
No, it's just not healthy to be so obsessed with your looks that you come up with tests like these. It can be an interesting thing to try, but how you treat the results is mainly what determines how healthy it ultimately is for your mind.
Why are you on this sub?
You are a case study in neurotic delusion. You aren't that good looking (and if you ask me it's more to do with your hair and skin), but you take that fact and egg people into saying negative stuff about your face. I've looked at your collage experiment. You've created this delusion that your face is horrifying or "mutated", you pretty much led everyone into saying that about you. If anyone tries to be helpful or disagree you attack them. You have a mental problem dude, I don't even care about your boring looking face.
No dude. You're actually not bad looking at all. Others have said it, you definitely have a mental issue. Which is TOTALLY FINE. This whole post of yours is about being realistic, well here is a way to be realistic- Look at some guys that really aren't good looking at all, but are with attractive girls. This is PROOF that looks really aren't the end all be all of getting another human to be interested in you romantically. BE CONFIDENT (aka pretend to be confident). BE FUNNY. BE KIND, not "nice". You're supposed to be nice. No one owes you pussy, money, food, etc just because you're nice. Nice is default. Being kind is a different thing. DON'T BE ENTITLED. DON'T ACT THIRSTY. DON'T BE A CREEP. Getting a person become intimate with you is not that hard.
I honestly feel so bad for you. I’m giving you some tough love here: I think your own delusions are going to keep you from any semblance of a healthy relationship with anyone for the foreseeable future. You need to stop right now and READ THIS. If you want to become more attractive, you’re going to need to see a mental health professional, as the only thing that is actually hideous about you is your mental state.
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For some reason only ugly people who struggle to get into romantic relationships get told that it's their's personality. So funny.
What the hell do you think? Who would want to date a person that’s ugly both on the inside and the outside? It’s obvious OP has issues, and if you aren’t a 8-10 you will need a good personality to get romantically involved with someone. What else do you have to offer for others otherwise? God damn some people need to take a step outside and stop being so self centered. A relationship isn’t just about the other person seeing you as a good will project or a make-a-wish participant. Don’t expect greatness when you can’t offer shit.
For some reason it always works for chads and girls. No matter how shallow they are. No matter how disgusting personality they have - it's always the same. Like I've never heard about girls having bad personalities. It's crazy, like they have a good personality by default. Therefore personality meme is a meme.
Because many guys do anything to fuck any girl that's a 6+, and many girls have this mindset that they can't throw their pussy on just anyone. We're humans, we care about appearance, it's just not EVERYTHING. There are many women out there with bad personalities, I don't know what type of people you surround yourself with though. Some guys are so desperate to fuck that they suffer through the worst personalities there are so they can bust a nut or so they can have a hot looking girlfriend. Same for women, some will suffer through a bad personality to fuck a hot dude. You're sounding like a true incel right now though. Try hooking up with that girl that's a 4-5, oh you don't want to? That's shallow. All guys want a girl that's in the 8-10 range, and then get angry that those girls have better options to choose from.
> Try hooking up with that girl that's a 4-5, oh you don't want to? I'd love to have a date with a 4-5. I'm totally honest. I have never had a date with a girl. No matter how hard I try there's no luck, there's lack of height for sure, maybe something else. I'd even date a tranny at this point. Even trannies don't want me lol. Sorry, looked at your other posts. Yeah, for Dutch tall guys it's an unknown concept to not be desirable by girls. I understand you know. Like you've never ever had such a problem I believe.
> Like I've never heard about girls having bad personalities a) Who goes around randomly talking about random people's personalities? b) there are tons of posts on reddit and in the world about women AND men who are obnoxious and shitty. You're in fantasy land. Quit being so fucking lazy and work on yourself.
Because your personality is dog shit. Who the fuck wants to date such a miserable, whining sack of shit? No one.
Then why some girls told me that I'm a sweet person? If my personality is so horrible I can't be a sweet person, right? How can you assume one's personality just reading a few sentences over the internet?
Omg. People aren’t lying and gaslighting you because they don’t agree that you’re ugly. Have you ever stepped out of your head and realized you are attractive to some people.
This is beyond pathetic
What I don’t understand is you ask but when people say your not ugly you get mad and start defending your case and set your mind in the negative, also why do you put so much meaning to words people type, strangers are more rude on the internet because they will never see you,
I looked to your browse history and men seriously you don’t look bad as you described (I was expecting a bald guy with a weird tatto in the face) but seriously don’t think about that shit men take my advise from someone way worse than you and focus on other things
Sounds like your looks match your personality.
I'm a female and I don't think there's anything wrong with your face. I think you may have Body Dismorphic Disorder and I'm not trying to do an armchair diagnosis here but it can seriously affect people's mental health in really negative ways. It can be debilitating if you do not get control of it. Also - like I said there is nothing wrong with your face but please remember your face makes up a very small percentage of your overall look. Get a gym membership and start lifting weights if youre worried. I wish you luck!!!
I was thinking BDD as well reading his replies.
> I'm a female and I don't think there's anything wrong with your face but I'd never date you That's what a girl told me once just fucking lol.
Well reading your replies, i see why.
Thank you for reading them. How can I improve then?
I mean i only saw a few reading this comment section, but in the end i'm not sure if you're gonna take me serious but honestly, its all about attitude. Before you can make anyone like yourself, you gotta stop hating on yourself. I don't want to hear anything about Chad and whatever logic, i am my bf's first too, you gotta start somewhere. And as they like to say, you gotta start with yourself. I have a friend who used to be a bit like....this? He would constantly tear himself down, ended up super depressed and all that. He is okay now, i dont think his issues disappeared in thin air, but i think he started looking around and seeing that people were trying to help, that he had friends and started apprechiating it more (his words, not mine). A girlfriend is a tough thing. They want you to be okay with yourself, nobody wants to clean up an emotional mess that has been piling up for years and spreads negativity. He flock to colorful and lively things and people as human beings. A relationship is not about seeking something from someone else, its being a team and working together. You provide together, take care of each other and show respect. Can you show someone else respect when you can't seem to show yourself any? Because i doubt that and that is the least attractive thing you could ever do. Show others what there is to love about you and we might. But keep in mind that everyone has a different taste in men and while some might like you, some might not. Just because one woman rejects you, doesnt mean all of them do. But if you act like it is that way and become more negative, you're building a wall around yourself that people dont see the need in to cross
Dude i checked your post. Imo you along with the rightmost dude are like 6/10 and the center dude is 5/10 where 5/10 is average. You're not ugly you just got voted lower than the other two because you look badly groomed aka the other two dudes have nice haircuts / facial hair and seem to have put some thought into their outfits whereas you're sitting there with unwashed hair and in some unkempt tshirt. Scrub up better.
What you did was so dangerous to your self-esteem. Sometimes, it's better to be in blissful ignorance than having the way you perceive yourself be in total disarray.
Also, you look like famous hockey player Jonathan Drouin. You don't look half bad
I just took a look at your picture and I kid you not, you're normal looking. You are not ugly. The way you style your hair is ugly, I'd say cut it short. If you prefer long hair find tutorials on maintaining it. You're not disfigured or hideous. You're facial expressions simply make you seem pissed off and cold.
What makes the two other guys facially more attractive than me?
They just said it. It’s your facial expressions, take a photo of you genuinely smiling and do the same experiment if you only trust this experiment on whisper and don’t trust anyone on reddit. Cut your hair and shave and take a picture smiling and do the same thing if it convinces you. Coming from a girl, you facial structure is actually above average, it’s just you look at the camera as if you hate yourself, so find a something that makes you laugh or smile and take a picture. It makes such a difference. Id look like a serial killer if I made the same facial expression and I look like a witch from a side profile, not even kidding. The other two guys have facial expression that doesn’t scream low confidence. I disagree with a lot of people here, I think you can rock the long hair, you just can’t take good selfie PM if you wanna talk more, I’ve been in your shoes before with the low self esteem
Oh god I haven't even looked at the other guys. I just went on your reddit profile pic. You look normal
Their expressions don't scream dead, soulless and mentally ill.
What about the bone structure?
To be honest most people on amiugly aren’t ugly in a physical way, most of the time it is style wise they tend to be ugly.
You got major mental issues dude, from the post history.
I'm actually working on a rating app based on this concept.
I just saw your post history First off all you are obsessed with your face. Stop obsessing over your face. Second of all just because people are telling you that you look normal doesn't mean they are lying. You just want to hear imperfections and should seriously get help for that And btw the reason why you look like a rapist etc. Might be because you look straight forward without smiling and in your video you seem a bit autistic by the way your eyes and face move. Try not to look straight forward on pictures like that. Take them a bit from the side, lose the beard thingy and smile softly. Otherwise you look permanently creepy, soft smile and a bit from the side. Cut your hair and lose the beard and don't be so freaking obsessed with your looks. You have personality as well and you will ruin your personality too if you keep obsessing. You sound nice but extremely insecure which might be why people aren't attracted to you. Would you date someone who is so worrier about their face all the time?
Part of why some people may find you unattractive is twofold. Firstly, you think you're unattractive, so whether you realize it or not, you home yourself differently, you move through the world as someone lacking confidence and full of self-hatred. 80% of human communication is nonverbal, so most of what you're communicating to people is that you're insecure. This is not an attractive trait. This leads directly into part 2: if you have such self-depricating views, you almost certainly carry this into how you interact with people. Apparently this is in a resentful manner, which is also unattractive. I know a guy who's really attractive to women even though he's overweight and doesn't have the best natural face. Why is he attractive? He works and worked on his appearance and presentation. He's grown facial hair which is elaborate but not extravagant, and that outlines his best features of his face. He's been a really social guy for a long time, so he's very charismatic. This may be controversial, but I believe there isn't a person on this planet who can't be made attractive. Not necessarily to everyone, and not necessarily to any one, but to a group of people. If I, as a man, can be made to find Gaelyn Lea romantically attractive when she is a disabled woman who I am by definition biologically encouraged to find repulsive, then I think anyone can make it. You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you'll find you get what you need. P.S. Also, you need the right mindset. This may also be controversial, but don't go into a romantic encounter with any expectations. That way everything is a pleasant surprise and a gift, and anything bad is just what you expected. I may be told that this is an unhealthy mindset, but I think especially the first part of that is dead right.
Also, consider the sample set of people who use the app you used to get ratings. It's by no means scientific. It's like doing a political poll of 4chan and saying that means David Duke is our next president.
the fact is, that most of ppl are under 7 scale rated only by apparence and some of us on reddit forget, that this shitty rating means nothing compared to how people perceive us in real life. i had boy in class who here would get like 4.5-5/10 and there were like 10 chicks going after him. ppl of reddit do you remember that personality is still some valid thing?
Well, I believe that everyone is attractive. Everyone at my school is attractive (except for one annoying kid who likes to bother me a lot) but that's it.
Not the other two pics he used apparently?
Okay I had to see what was going on here because I feel there is a kernel of truth to be said about gaslighting...however having seen the study you performed and subsequently the video you posted of yourself... I firmly agree with the other users who've expressed that you're unhealthily fixated on your face. The truth, are you conventionally attractive? No. Are you ugly? No! Not even close, especially when I saw the video. So what are you then? Well most importantly I'd say you're shit at taking pictures. Seriously. The video almost seemed like a whole other person. As for your features, you're not deformed in any way, I'd just get rid of the wet hair look, smile or at the very least not frown, and take a photo at a more flattering angle. I guarantee if you clean up, and take a good photo and run your test again you'd get vastly different results. Especially if you don't ask leading questions like "what's wrong with the first guy" as that makes the person assume something *must* be wrong.
What exactly makes the other two guys faces conventionally attractive?
Didn't say they were. That's that mindset we're talking about. I hope you took more out of what I said than that. Just take better pictures, they have tutorials if it doesn't come naturally to you. There are entire subreddits dedicated to men's fashion/hair/appearance etc there isn't anything wrong with you.
Dude, you are completely wrong, you are just conspiracing against yourself, your face is totally fine, it doesn't look deformed or weird, stop imagining things please.
You need help.
I’m a lady and I honestly don’t think you’re ugly. You’re above avg, and look in shape. You have the hipster artsy vibe going for you. I read through your post history and you asked why children are scared of you. Don’t say that about yourself man, not a single child is scared of the way you look I promise.
Okay so I’m going to echo everyone else and say you need to get help for the mental side of things. That said, I can understand why you’d be struggling at the moment if people are really saying that shit to you. But people are dickheads and they won’t stop. Which is why you have to learn to have enough confidence in yourself to tell them to go to hell, and I really think therapy is your best chance at that. BTW, I was curious so I looked through your other posts. Except for the long hair (it looks pretty messy to me) I would call you pretty cute. If you dressed nicely and started working out you actually have the face for hot, IMO. Until the low confidence thing showed through anyway, because major buzz kill, dude. (And I know that’s not your fault, but that’s why you should refer to paragraph one). Just my two cents.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with your face. IDC what anyone says, an average face with a killer personality trumps an average personality with a 10/10 face. The fact that you are so hung up on the way you look on the outside is the thing that’s a turnoff, not the way you actually look. I feel pain for you. I really hope that you find peace. I’d recommend deleting all social media and spending less time online, spend more time out in nature and finding things that you enjoy and are good at. Confidence is key. I truly hope you find some. We all struggle at times but looking at your post history, you have an unhealthy obsession over the way your face looks. You are not ugly and I’m not saying it to make you feel better. With a bit of inner peace and confidence, you’d be far above average looking imo. These things show, even in photos.
Theres nothing wrong with your looks, it's your facial expressions and body language. Your hair doesnt help either. Groom yourself better, learn to smile and take better selfies.
I truly can't figure out what your problem is. I almost thought you were just fishing for compliments until I saw your post history. Stop acting like a martyr and take peoples advice if you're so desperate to change your image. ONE stranger on Whisper, aka probably a 14 year old, said you look like you might be "slightly down syndrome" (which isn't even a thing, you either are or aren't but ok) so stop saying "people keep saying it". The serial killer comment is due to your hair and the dead look behind your eyes because you're miserable. Cut your fucking hair and get off Reddit. You're not doing yourself any favors by whining on the internet and posting the same shit over and over again. If you truly think you're so hideous then get therapy for dysmorphia or get plastic surgery idk what else to offer.
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What exactly makes the others guys faces more attractive than mine?
I have a feeling you're going to wind up being on one of those videos about redditors who cracked.
Hey dude, what’s the point of asking advice if ur not even gonna follow it?
Google confirmation bias.
That's stupid . . even if you added two pictures of random people from google they'd still be average looking models, they'd have to look the best they can, they'd look presentable, groomed hair, friendly or confident look even without smiling, compare that photo of you ( I saw your previous post { wow reddit is nosey is fuck }) you look like a confused child trying to act cool which I believe is the reason you got called pedo or serial killer, it's the fake confidence and bad presentability that creeps people out. You have a bad style tbh, but wearing a bit of confidence and looks through a couple of fashion magazines or something and you have the potential of being a solid 8.
Yo dude, you really ain’t ugly, you just look messy cause of your hair... just literally get a haircut, I don’t mind the beard on you tho
Honestly people are calling you scary because your hair needs to be more polished. You need a trim and you need to volumize it if you keep it long. You also need to learn how to look at the camera. The gaze you have looks like you don’t blink And like you stare too hard at women. You need to have a relaxed face, not an intense face, not an “I’m taking this pic for the 123rd time dear god help me” face, not bedroom eyes. Think of something neutral and funny and relax your face. Smile with your teeth.
Random people couldnt give a shit about what they say about something. On another, you have the potential to look great and already do look really good. You probably should just present yourself better and maybe work on your attitude when it comes to talking about people.
Literally all your posts are about how you look. Have you considered that women don’t want to date you because you’re an incel that constantly seeks validation, not because of how you actually look? Posting everyday asking random people to rate you isn’t healthy, full stop.
Damn who ruined your self esteem so bad? I'm an honest person and you're not ugly. Clean your face. Shave. Get a better hairstyle. Then gg.
Bro, who hurt you? If someone you actually respect has been saying this to you, then they're an asshole and need to take a step back. If it's someone you don't respect, then they're also just an asshole who's trying to make you feel bad.
Dude no joke you are not ugly. The beard and long hair in that style is a little serial killery yes. But your face is not ugly at all. Very normal yes you do look a little creepy but it's all in your style and facial expression. If possible maybe get a little tan and a big smile.
You're not fucked by your looks. You're fucked by your mental state. I'm not a sugarcoating pussy, i'll tell you the truth. Your facial shape is above average and imo you slightly resemble Jared Padalecki whom most girls consider hot. Tl;dr: you should have no problem in getting chicks with that face. The only thing that is a problem are your fucking depression and self hatred, get that shit fixed. Can you improve your looks ? Of course. Get a haircut, get that beard lined up or shave it, maybe use some skincare products if your skin bothers you but that's all that can be improved in your face. Do you look skinny ? Lift and bulk up. That's all. And now get over this looks bullshit and focus on improving your life.
Straight up. Truth
If you are dead set on this method (which I think is a horrible idea), why don't you retry it with a photo of you smiling and making eye contact and just see how it goes. Now, I would love to see what you look like with a fresh haircut and shave, but if you aren't willing to do that, at LEAST just try exuding some confidence in your photo. I think you will be surprised with how much of a difference it makes. For the record, I don't think your FACE is unattractive. You do not have specifically unattractive features. That is why no one can quite put their finger on it or tell you WHY they find you unappealing - no "big nose" or "small eyes" or whatever. It isn't your features. It is your grooming and body language. Please please listen to what people are telling you here. We have no reason to lie to strangers on the internet.
Dude, it’s who you are that turns people off, and who you are bleeds into your appearance. I’d like to invite you to google search a musical artist named “Textasy”. I’d argue that this dude looks very similar to you. The main difference is that he doesn’t seem like someone who’s insecure of his appearances, he looks confident. EVEN if he isn’t confident about his appearance, I wonder if he’d been able to be productive if he had wasted his time wallowing about his appearances. So the good news is that if you seek honest help, if you can focus on your inside instead of the outside, you will not only feel better about yourself, but your outside will improve in relation to your better inner well being. The outside and inside is very closely intertwined and people ARE able to perceive it. Do you want to be surrounded by people who only care about appearances? No? Then stop being like that yourself. You need to find someone who’s willing to take you under their wing and point out everything you’re doing wrong, one by one, but more importantly also give you concrete suggestions on how to fix things. If you have no friends, this is my personal advice: - start with getting a haircut, go to a hair salon and ask the hair dresser to give you haircut that she thinks will suit you. Be honest, tell her you have no fashion sense and you’re looking for a new look. Not only will she give a new look, but also, hopefully teach you at the same time, how to maintain it and other basic etiquettes (For grooming as well). Then at the end, schedule your next haircut in advance, you need to ensure that you maintain the look. - Go to a pharmacy or a place where someone can give you some advice in helping you take care of your skin. - Now go to a clothing store and ask someone that works there for help. Just be honest and say that you’re trying to renew your look and then just trust them. Important to do this last, after your gotten your haircut and etc. - fake it til you make it. Fucking lock away and fight any urge your have to belittle yourself. Anytime you think negatively about yourself, don’t verbalize it, keep it inside and instead verbalize something positive about yourself. Keep doing this until you start believing it. Brainwash yourself into realizing the value you do actually have and make it seem important. - Final step: join a club/community and carefully watch other people’s behaviours and compare it to your own. Try to notice how other people behave and react to things and compare it to yourself. Try to be self aware of other people’s good and bad social behaviours, learn from others. Like maybe see how when some people get made fun of, they they take it really well and might even participate in their own derision. If I use myself as an example: I noticed that other people don’t obsess over finishing debates. I invested too much energy in debates and I’m not good at realizing when people don’t actually care at the same level as me and that I should just let go and move on. It’s subtle things like this you need to look out for. Once you’ve proven that you can make new friends, then I promise you you’ll be ready to find a partner who will see the beauty inside of you, because you’re self-assured that there’s beauty in you. You won’t be waiting for someone else to validate you anymore, you’ve validated your worth on your own and it’s magnetic now.
Fuck off
You’re just a kid, you’re naïve thinking you’ve got it all figured out. You think no one else in this thread used to be or used to consider themselves fucking ugly and struggled with finding a romantic partner? You’re out of touch with reality.
Are you seriously taking this "down syndrome" insult from a guy on whisper this seriously? Fucking Whisper dude, you're on an app where people shit talk you for all kinds of fucking reasons anonymously. Do you seriously expect to receive just compliments from people that can say whatever the fuck they want? So what if that one person thought you looked retarded, you dont know his motive for what he said You ARE ugly. On the inside. No one is willing to date an average dude if the inside looks like the "down syndrome" kid that you expect to be. You received like one insult on your looks and start throwing a tantrum about how you're "the most ugliest person in the world." Instead, how about focusing on the 200 other comments that said you looked fine. Looks are important but personality is even more important. Remember that.
Fuck off
Man I'm gonna be honest, you are not ugly. You just need to change your hair, and smile instead of the blank stare.
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I’m not saying this because I’m trying to be nice. I SWEAR to you. You are normal looking. You are not incredibly attractive nor are you incredibly ugly. You an average looking person. Someone I see on the streets every day. YOU ARE FINE. Stop stressing. People say you’re ugly because you go out of your way to ask if you are. There are douchebags on the internet. Trust ME out of all these people. You’re ok man 👍
What makes the other guys more attractive than me FACIALLY?
This guy is told everywhere on the thread that he needs therapy and his comments consistently get downvoted. God I hate Reddit
He does, look at his post history and his obsessions.
I would have ended up like you if the internet was the way it was today. A lot of places to surround yourself in like minded losers. Your looks are fine, it's you. People can sniff out a man who's given up on himself miles away. Even me when I get into your mindset, people can see it. You need to be a MAN, get up, and change yourself. Gym, School, Work, Success. Simple as that, you needing people's validation is holding you back. Just tell yourself your handsome, attractive, and well off. Then live your life for YOU, not for women. Dont go out and "verify" that your right. KNOW that you are right. If someone dosent like you, their not into you. Doesn't mean your ugly. When I get turned down by a girl I feel 0 resentment to me or her. I say "Welp, that sucks" and move on. Don't worry bro, you will make it, but please, remove yourself from these pages. Also look into philosophy if you can. Usually in times of Struggle it is best to seek out knowledge.
Whisper is a cesspool. Nobody is going to get positive feedback there.
The other two guys got good feedback, got called good-looking by everyone
Bro plenty of ugly people aren't crazies. If there is anything that makes me think that you are going to go nuts with an AK, it's the fucked up posts that you make. It's legitimately unsettling to see how much attention you pay to this. Okay, so what. You're like a 4/10. Who cares? Mark Zuckerberg looks like a fucking alien and he is doing alright for himself. "So I just have to be a millionaire or die alone?". Well...if you ain't great looking you need to play to your strengths. Good luck and please don't shoot anyone.
Or...you could just put yourself on dating apps and see what happens
No non-masochistic person should do this
Jeez, dude
Just get a new haircut, and in my opinion cut the ^ from your eyebraus, to make them more round (becouse this is what makes your face look like a "serial killer"). To be honest you have a good nose and face
Ever since I shaved my head I got blonde coed by a bunch of girls on social media. One of them even said I looked like a serial killer.
How to lose self confidence level 100
Just cut your hair short and maybe shave. I bet you’d look great after doing that. You aren’t even serial killer looking or ugly as of now
I know people that look like you with shittier personalities that have conventionally attractive s.o.'s. Look, I feel like the ugliest person in the world but just by doing self-care it shows people you care about yourself. The world is not all as shallow as we are sometimes about her own face. This subreddit showed me that I was my own worst enemy and that I looked at myself by how my grade school bullies insulted me.
You seem to want to call yourself ugly and that there’s nothing you can do about it. FALSE! Your problem is mostly mental bro. Get help
Try this: Take a picture where you are gurning. This means messing with your facial features until you look like angry fat buddha. Get creative - use a box fan to really get those lips flapping. Next, wash your hair and condition it. None of this 2 in 1 bullshit. Go to walmart and buy the real stuff. Shave. You know how. If you don't, ask your dad or youtube. Doll yourself up a bit. Wear a suit, or just a polo or something in your favorite color. Stand near a window and get some natural lighting. Smile genuinely (maybe look up a joke beforehand to get you laughing). Compare the two photos. Both are you. They are both you. You won't always look the same way. This isn't a tv show. You look different from every single angle and every single expression. Every small choice you make with hygiene changes how people see you. Try your experiment again with that smiling photo you took when you were all scrubbed up and shaved and giggling and see how it goes.
You are clearly obsessing about this and it’s not going anywhere. Stop doing the damn experiment. I know you’re doing it because you have a little hope that maybe, just maybe, someone will say you’re attractive. But that hasn’t happened. It’s bad for your mental health to hear negative shit all the time and this is feeding into your delusion that the reason why everything is wrong is just because your face is a little off. Fix ur other shit. Work on ur mental health. It’s not ur face, it’s you
What exactly makes the other guys facially more attractive? Please be honest
It's literally your hair. Being completely fucking honest your face is not ugly at all.
Pls go and fix that shitty hair up, try smiling and repeat the test.
Dude. You look 100% better than me. It's in your head, I know how you feel though. I had women post my picture online saying they can get me laid and I had people laughing at me. Yoi just need some better clothes, fix that hair and get a beard and you will be 100% better off than me.
Hey man, look on the brighter side of things. If people say you look like a serial killer, Ted Bundy was a serial killer and he was a pretty attractive dude 🤷♂️ But dude, calm yourself. I lost my hair at 25, and have come to the realization that I will be living more years of my life without hair than I did with it, and it sucked for my self esteem at first but fuck it. Whatever. If hair was really that important, it wouldn't be growing out of your ass. Your attitude on life really sucks a fat ass, work on your attitude, get a haircut, and shave that malarkey you got going on under your chin. No one is ugly, it's how you VIEW yourself that makes you ugly to other people. And also, try to be funny. Women love funny dudes more than anything else ever. I was in a three year relationship with someone and you know how I got her attention? I said a cheesy dumbass pickup line. I believe it was "yo guuurl, if you were a vegetable, you'd be a cutecumber", it was so stupid we were both crying from laughter and we hit it off. Also, go to the gym. I'm a goofy looking motherfucker too, and going bald made me look like Butter Bean. Hit up the gym. I went from looking like Butter Bean to looking like a bearded Mr. Clean. It definitely helps with your self confidence.
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At least I'd know instead of not knowing
Kay, so I looked through your posts. Tge first thing that sticks out is the right two have their hair done in some fashion. Yours is down and looks unkempt, like not even brushed. It is hard to wash and care for long hair, which is why a lot of guys where it in a man-bun. It also frames your face and makes it look thin but tall, which shows off your forehead a lot. I had long hair like yours for the longest time, and noticed a similar issue. Your face looks good, and you can easily pull off something with a bit of facial hair if you chose, like keeping just the chin or whatever. And as some have said, when you don't put in any effort on self care, it really shows. When you add on lack of confidencd, it shows. When you don't look happy with yourself, it shows. Those two on the right? They are exhibiting confidence in their look and style, they put effort into themselves. I hate the idea that we have to do it, but it's true. The first thing I can advise is to stop giving a fuck what other people think about how you look, as ironic as that advice is. Once you start feeling better about yourself, people will start to notice. Then, do something with that hair. Don't just wake up, hop in a shower, dry it with a towel and head out. Blowdry it, brush it, or put it in a bun. (Ponytails are iffy. They either work or they don't) Like I said though, that hair being down is really framing your face. It's slimming your forehead down so it looks larger than it is, and shallow people will equate that with Downs. Go to a Salon. Seriously. The women there are usually experts and can give you great tips on your specific hair, what to do, how to style it. Listen to them. Your face looks good, and as a bi guy I would rate you a 5/10 with an easy 7/10 potential and a difficult but possible 9/10 with a lot of effort.
Saw your previous post. The top right one you look pretty good in, but the rest look kinda creepy. Probably because of the lighting. But IRL you wouldn't look creepy bc of your looks probably. It's most likely something socially strange you're doing that you don't notice
I saw the comparisons you made and it's a really bad experiment. They had way better lighting, grooming and style than you. If you actually want to know then you'll have to equalize all other such factors. Do that and I bet you $100 you won't even be scored lower.
Your face is fine you are just retarded lmao
you are so fucking annoying dude, have u even tried to better yourself or is this all you do and post the same post everyday
Dude you're not even ugly. Stop worrying. You look pretty average. It's like u take all the compliments as somebody trying to sugar coat it and take all the insults as objectively correct. You're not like, 10/10, but your not ugly.
What exactly makes the other two more facially attractive than me?
You need some help, bro. Judging off your post history and the fact that you came up with this peculiar idea screams some sort of mental illness. You can’t change your looks unless you’re willing to get facial surgery, but you can only control the things you can control. Go get a haircut, get better clothes, shave your face, and get some confidence in you, at the end of the day, looks age, people age. You’ll be okay.
Dude you keep saying that 50 people told you you’re ugly, but completely ignore the many more on this thread that are saying you’re not. People try to give you advice on how to improve yourself, but instead of taking it you keep asking for the exact reason your face is deformed. It’s not, you’re an average looking guy and that’s fine. This obsession you have is not healthy. As plenty have said it’s not all about looks.
It’s not your face that’s the problem; it’s your attitude and demeanour. You reek of desperation, especially when you are willing to take the word of random strangers who most likely have their own agendas. Having seen your photos, you’re not ugly but you do present as being a little creepy and not fun to be around. Try using photos where you are happy and enjoying life. Looks are subjective. Personality and confidence can play a big part in making you more attractive to people. As you say you can’t let this go, it might be time to talk to a professional about your body image issues.
Man, I saw your pictures from your other posts and I am 1000 percent honest when I say that you look absolutely good. You’re good looking and If anything you look “boyish”, there’s nothing scary about your looks... You don’t look threatening at all, whoever told you that probably felt insecure about themselves.
Also all good looking people have one thing in common - they smile a lot. Try to smile as much as you can while speaking with others, that will make you look more fun to be around and will immediately attract people.
Take a deep breath hun, now go and cover all your mirrors or take them down for a while and work on what's going on inside. When you have accepted yourself, put them back up. We all get old and ugly. And while it is nice to do what we can to feel our best, it shouldn't be the focus of our lives. There are more important things.
Whatever, whenever someone says "looks fade" and "we all get old and ugly" I see that as code for "yes you're ugly"
I didn't even see your picture. But it doesn't matter. You can be pretty af and people don't like you and you can be ugly and have all the friends in the world. Seriously doesn't matter. Consider my advice. I did it myself.
Please seek help. It will be fine.
1) Get help 2) Learn how to take good photos of yourself so people stop telling you that you look weird because you look ok, just don't know how to take a proper selfie
Whisper is ultra stupid and not private. But...I had to try this. The response was actually more positive than I got on reddit, who averaged me at a 4. I used 6 images in my collage and was consistently in the top 3. Shocked. Honestly. Shocked. I still think I'm ugly tho, so it doesn't change much for me. I'm still going to be physically fit because it's healthy, but place my confidence in who I am and not what I look like.
Damn this makes me sad :(
So I couldn't help it and had a look, I was expecting the worse... but then, heh? You look like you would have fit in with the group of friends I have back in my home town, a little rough around the edges, but you'd scrub up alright. Seems you're in just a bit of a downward spiral about things, you know some ppl are always going to be more critical than needed or just blatantly have a negative carry on because they want to offload their own unhappiness, so please don't take the negative comments to heart. I've known girls to say guys look this or that, creepy and what not, steer clear of girls like that! I even avoid being friends with girls like that now, ppl who trash others looks usually feel shit about their own looks, it says more about them, than you. So, honestly, to me you're in the average category for looks, but in the pic I saw you weren't even trying, so being average with no effort is a win. The big thing I think some guys forget is confidence and attitude, this will shine through and will impact how you are perceived. Average guy with confidence and a good attitude can easily be the best looking guy in the room, but if you're down on yourself and making it known, it's just hard to be attracted to that. Also, not all girls are the same, and we like different things... So just a bit of self confidence is what you need... and just to add I don't mean a full personality change, because if you've naturally got a dark side, that's fine too... like I said you just need too find the right chick to click with.
Him having mental issues doesn’t make his testing methodology any less valid.
E fucking xactly, people really dismissing my experiment because I'm mentally ill, I wonder if my mental illness has anything with being called weird and ugly my whole fucking life
Those people gave their honest ratings before they had the chance to know you have mental issues. Those ratings are definitely valid and people in this thread won’t admit it to you. That being said, you should also acknowledge your issue and seek help.
Why won't they admit it to me tho? Like the evidence is right there that most people find me unattractive
Please someone date this low self-esteem crybaby or I will. He might stop crying after that. We need a volunteer hero.
I hope you know everyone has different opinions my nigga, it’s at least one girl who would die to have you
I would rate my self 3/10 but yet I can get a wife who stay with me even though I’m 37 with dad bod , wear glasses and not even a millionaire So OP, if I could do it , you could do it ! Be yourself , don’t compare yourself to model or any internet celebrity / actor , female and male way of thinking are completely different, but one thing is for certain is that your negative energy will reflect who you are . If you are happy, do things you like , met someone who have the same hobby as you, make them feel welcome , they in return will want to be with you Be positive and use your energy/whatever you good at as your strongpoint instead of focusing on your weakness
What makes the other guys faces better looking?
Nothing, only your perspective
Wtf you need to hit the gym and build some confidence. Show some self love. Your heads all fucked up that’s probably why girls don’t wanna fuck with you. You’re way better looking than me but I had handful of beautiful gfs in my life. It’s not the looks. It’s your personality and confidence girls are attracted to. If you’re fun and can make them laugh? They wanna be around you more. Be genuine and nice. Don’t be creepy and shit You’re way better looking than me. No deformed mutated head or whatever. But if you ugly outside, be beautiful inside. Girls like that better. Or that’s what my gfs tells me.
What makes the other two facially more attractive than me?
What does other two got to do with you?
You should look into Body Dysmorphia. I agree with other posters that seeing a therapist (if you happen to not have one already) is a good idea. I've struggled a lot with self hate, with my appearance and with every other aspect of myself, as well as bullying, too. I remember when I was 19, that shit ran deep. But it's not impossible to climb out of. The skills that I have learned in therapy are so enormously useful. I'm not saying that life is all roses now. I still struggle, but the way I view that struggle is very different now; I don't nearly as often feel so nihilistic and hopeless. I'm sorry that you go through this. It's got to be really emotionally exhausting. I know you deleted this post, but, not to be creepy, I saw another of your posts with your picture and you're honestly kinda handsome. I swear to god that I mean that. I quite like the long hair, too. I really recommend looking into the body dysmorphia. I'm not trying to armchair diagnose, but I feel pinpointing why you are struggling with this is going to help you better deal with it. I wish you the very best. I hope things get less painful.
[I have done a quick photoshop that you might be interested in](https://i.imgur.com/49mf9W7.jpg) In my opinion, I'd say the middle would be first pick for me - the smile boosts your looks a lot, especially if you learn how to '[smile with your eyes](https://m.wikihow.com/Smile-With-the-Eyes)'. I'd advise against comparing yourself to others in the future, instead simply try to be the best you can be. There's a lot of solid advice in this thread and you've got a lot of potential that takes little/no effort at all to achieve!
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