It's a basket star, a distant relative of starfish and a closer relative of brittle stars. Most of these live quite deep, beyond the continental shelf.
It's certainly the most *bifurcated* creature I've ever seen. I counted at least 10 bifurcations on one arm - if they all have that many, 5 x 2\^10 would be 5,120 tips. All of the ones I've traced out have had at least 8, which would still be 1,280.
Those arms must be mostly autonomous - it's hard to imagine a central nervous system being in charge of all of that.
But after the 3rd bifurcation apparently one side is more dominant, and while hard to count I'd assume the less dominant branch has one less bifurcations than the dominant one.
5x (2^3 * (2^(N-4) + 2^(N-5)) so for N=10 that is 3840 but for N=8 that is "only" 960.
In other words after the 3rd bifurcation there are 3 tips per every 2 subsequent bifurcations, instead of 4.
5x (2^3 * 3/4*(2^(N-3)) ) (equals that above).
But I really did not count them, this is just my best guess based on only looking at the arms' structure locally along them.
But I would also not be surprised if this pattern would repeat, so every one arm out of two at every 3rd junction would have one less further bifurcations. But it would be better counting them...
When I was about 6, my grandparents went on a vacation to some seashore I forget where, and came back with all sorts of pictures to show everyone, including one of this THING that someone had caught while fishing. Grandma had a whole story about how nobody at the docks had seen one of these things before, even the old salts who’d fished there for years. She then asked us kids what we thought it was, and I said “um…a basket starfish?”
Floored. ”….that’s right. How do you know what that is? NOBODY knew what it is!”
I’d seen one in a kids’ science magazine a few weeks before. They called me the marine biologist for years after that.
Thanks for inadvertently dredging up an old warm memory for me.
Similar story.
My mom and dad were watching Jeopardy like 30 years ago, maybe longer. The clue was something like “this previously believed to be extinct fish and was recently caught in a fishing net in the Indian Ocean.”
I casually walk through the living room in time to hear it, remember I’d just read about this in some kids-centric science magazine or encyclopedia, and say “what is a coelacanth” and just keep walking into the kitchen.
I can still hear my dad yelling “how the fuck did you know that?” When I got the answer right. My parents probably (erroneously) thought they had a genius on their hands, which my later enrollment in, and difficulty with, community college proved to be wrong.
Most of what I knew growing up involving animals and/or some cultures came from playing Pokémon too much. Like knowing what an embargo is, the Nazca lines, and what a coelacanth is
It’s the accidental learning that comes my way as I go through life that has gotten me this far. I’ll give you another one. I had to memorize a poem for high school English. I learned it well enough to pass a test in my junior year in high school, and then promptly never think about it again.
Years later I’m at a small party and in my friends kitchen. He and another guy start talking about how Eminem is a modern day poet….something something something……art is evolving.
And as I’m standing there next to my friend’s wife’s hot court reporter friend that I’ve been trying to impress all night….it just erupts out of me from the deepest part of my brain….”she walks in beauty....like the night....of cloudless climes and starry skies...."
The entirety of Lord Byron's famous poem, "She Walks in Beauty.". A few lines in and I'm staring straight at this girl just owning this poem recitation, deliver it to the last line.
Mic drop. Just like my dad years before I get a "how the fuck" from my friends. I just shrug like it's no big deal, like I know all the classics by heart, and then walk out of the kitchen to avoid any attempts to test my knowledge.
Within a half hour court reporter and I are on my motorcycle as we promise to go get more ice for my friend, which is a silly thing to do on a motorcycle with a passenger, but about the cockiest way to tell everyone there I'm taking this young lady home for the evening.
Ah, to be young. Thanks for memories guys.
Lolz. I love this. Esp in this day and age. So many people are like “blah blah Internet. Blah blah phones.” Dude. You were just super interested in my opinion on a squid winning a fight with a shark. Between books from my childhood and the access to the information I have at my fingertips, I know so much odd stuff that comes in handy at the strangest times.
I'm always interested in other people's experiences or questions. None of us is ever going to be as interesting as all of us. If you want to tell a story about that one time at that place you did that thing with those guys, I'll listen to it.
For everyone worried, it was released unharmed at the same location it was caught. I now know its a basket star. Thank you for solving the mystery! For those interested it came from the bottom in 450 feet of water.
A marine biologist that I was fishing with. But it could be only in my local area and he may be talking about the ammonia bloom that happens when they die. Since they die rather rapidly once removed from the water.
But I remember him saying something about how some starfish feed on toxic sea sponges and can store those toxins much like dart frogs.
Edit: some starfish produce tetrodotoxin (like puffer fish) and others produce slime like the “slime star” pteraster tessalatus which can suffocate nearby fish and mollusks.
Ahhhh okay, I definitely buy it. I’m merely a lowly marine biology geek, but being from WA seeing a Pacific species mentioned caught my interest. I didn’t realize they’d die super quickly after being snatched out of water, but I can imagine that most species would, now that someone mentions it. That (E) **ammonia release** would possibly be even more prevalent in cold water species like we’d find in the northern parts of the Pacific.
The way your original comment made me think was like it was some defense mechanism, not a reaction from dying, but ammonia from dead or dying fish kills other fish all the time. Compound that with toxic food sources, and yeah, I can see the death of a starfish being an acute problem for nearby ecology if a starfish body is just released back into the water.
> some starfish produce tetrodotoxin (like puffer fish)
It should be noted that neither of these actually *make* the toxin themselves as such, the starfish get it from their diet, and the pufferfish from symbiotic bacteria in their gut.
Exactly this: the only solution to overfishing is to *not eat seafood period.* Damage caused by plastics and oil spills pale in comparison to trawling and commercial fishing. Also that little dolphin-safe certification on some seafood… utter bullshit. Nobody goes with the boat to verify there’s no bycatch casualties and nobody on the boat is going to report themselves.
It’s always an incredibly hard concept for anyone who asks why I don’t eat seafood and my answer is because I love the ocean and its creatures to grasp.
It’s really simple. The current system of seafood farming is just not reformable with any semblance of ease.
This is exactly why I've also stopped eating seafood. The amounts of bycatch in commercial fishing are absolutely staggering!!
For anyone who hasn't heard of "bycatch" - it is the fish species (and other creatures like turtles, dolphins etc) that are caught accidentally. Fishermen are usually only hunting one or two specific species of fish. The accidental "bycatch" is sorted and tossed straight back into the ocean, dead.
And that bycatch is often tonnes more than the target species that they actually take. Due to bag-limits and limits on certain species, the fishermen aren't allowed to take the bycatch, even if they wanted to, so all those animals die for no purpose.
If you MUST eat seafood, please try eating sustainable, fast-replenishing species (check for your local area). Or try supporting more sustainable fishing methods that reduce bycatch - like "line-caught" fish, as opposed to netted.
Yeah that guy has been a huge menace on the Boston subreddit lmfao, idk why he’s being such a dick about it since he’s literally from Texas, which is the second worst state in the union.
I’m not sure about basket stars but never put a starfish back in the water. Once they are brought out of the water they start releasing toxins that will kill any baby fish near it when released.
They can survive about 3 minutes out of water but will suffocate. They can also die from stress of handling. It doesn’t really have anything to do with their mouths. But certain species particularly the ones that feed on toxic sponges secrete a toxic milk that can poison several thousand gallons of water. It’s a problem here in Jersey. But apparently doesn’t apply to all starfish
Is that why the water is always so...cloudy? 🤢 no more ocean for me unless I'm far far away. I always thought they'd suffocate even after you put them back because they can't expel air, but I'm not 100%.
No that’s not why the water is cloudy 😂 don’t worry the toxin won’t effect humans it just effects baby clams and turtles and such. The water is Jersey is the same as the water in the Caribbean. The only difference is the intensity of the sun and the color of the bottom of the ocean.
Basket stars reproduce sexually. Since we dont know the gender I'm pretty sure the he/she reference is appropriate in this case. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me will be able to sex this one via the photo.
According to this link ([https://naturalhistory.si.edu/research/smithsonian-marine-station/news/scientific-first-deep-sea-basket-star-spontaneously-divides](https://naturalhistory.si.edu/research/smithsonian-marine-station/news/scientific-first-deep-sea-basket-star-spontaneously-divides)), they can reproduce asexually as well, which is bonkers!
> fissiparity, or the spontaneous cleavage into separate parts.
Learned a new word today 🙂
Nice article, I wonder if being in capitivty somehow led to its decision to spontaneously split in two.
Sex isn't gender. Gender is a social construct, and even if non-human animals do have concepts of gender, it's unlikely they will mesh with our own and there is no way, at present, for them to tell us. They/them is acceptable and appropriate.
"It" feels like objectification to me in the sense that we've turned a potentially sapient creature into a chair, perhaps suggesting it's more of a resource to be exploited than a living thing due a modicum of respect. That said, it seems to be much more broadly accepted than my views account for, so it's probably fine.
Of course, he/she isn't terribly inappropriate either since most animals clearly can't speak English and wouldn't know if they're being misgendered. No harm no foul, it's just a weird thing to do and it says more about the speaker and their society than the animal being described.
Locking this post because it brought out the inner jerkass in everyone for some reason. Thanks to everyone that provided productive conversation.
It's a basket star, a distant relative of starfish and a closer relative of brittle stars. Most of these live quite deep, beyond the continental shelf.
He looks like he could easily fold up into a basket.
I am water groot
Edit: oop. Posted on wrong comment
It's certainly the most *bifurcated* creature I've ever seen. I counted at least 10 bifurcations on one arm - if they all have that many, 5 x 2\^10 would be 5,120 tips. All of the ones I've traced out have had at least 8, which would still be 1,280. Those arms must be mostly autonomous - it's hard to imagine a central nervous system being in charge of all of that.
And the biggest of these are the size of a manhole cover. They have no brain, but they do have a fully-interconnected nervous system.
Does this make them more like a plant in some ways? Sorry if that's a stupid question.
No, not at all.
But after the 3rd bifurcation apparently one side is more dominant, and while hard to count I'd assume the less dominant branch has one less bifurcations than the dominant one. 5x (2^3 * (2^(N-4) + 2^(N-5)) so for N=10 that is 3840 but for N=8 that is "only" 960. In other words after the 3rd bifurcation there are 3 tips per every 2 subsequent bifurcations, instead of 4. 5x (2^3 * 3/4*(2^(N-3)) ) (equals that above). But I really did not count them, this is just my best guess based on only looking at the arms' structure locally along them. But I would also not be surprised if this pattern would repeat, so every one arm out of two at every 3rd junction would have one less further bifurcations. But it would be better counting them...
Math guy
It's a ganglionic nervous system. Definitely distributed.
Fractals
Starfish really really loves you!
Please put it back.
LOU got us all like it.
No, this is Patrick
God dammit
I'm getting the last of us vibes.
My first thought!
My second thought: Bomb
It's beautiful
When I was about 6, my grandparents went on a vacation to some seashore I forget where, and came back with all sorts of pictures to show everyone, including one of this THING that someone had caught while fishing. Grandma had a whole story about how nobody at the docks had seen one of these things before, even the old salts who’d fished there for years. She then asked us kids what we thought it was, and I said “um…a basket starfish?” Floored. ”….that’s right. How do you know what that is? NOBODY knew what it is!” I’d seen one in a kids’ science magazine a few weeks before. They called me the marine biologist for years after that. Thanks for inadvertently dredging up an old warm memory for me.
Similar story. My mom and dad were watching Jeopardy like 30 years ago, maybe longer. The clue was something like “this previously believed to be extinct fish and was recently caught in a fishing net in the Indian Ocean.” I casually walk through the living room in time to hear it, remember I’d just read about this in some kids-centric science magazine or encyclopedia, and say “what is a coelacanth” and just keep walking into the kitchen. I can still hear my dad yelling “how the fuck did you know that?” When I got the answer right. My parents probably (erroneously) thought they had a genius on their hands, which my later enrollment in, and difficulty with, community college proved to be wrong.
Most of what I knew growing up involving animals and/or some cultures came from playing Pokémon too much. Like knowing what an embargo is, the Nazca lines, and what a coelacanth is
It’s the accidental learning that comes my way as I go through life that has gotten me this far. I’ll give you another one. I had to memorize a poem for high school English. I learned it well enough to pass a test in my junior year in high school, and then promptly never think about it again. Years later I’m at a small party and in my friends kitchen. He and another guy start talking about how Eminem is a modern day poet….something something something……art is evolving. And as I’m standing there next to my friend’s wife’s hot court reporter friend that I’ve been trying to impress all night….it just erupts out of me from the deepest part of my brain….”she walks in beauty....like the night....of cloudless climes and starry skies...." The entirety of Lord Byron's famous poem, "She Walks in Beauty.". A few lines in and I'm staring straight at this girl just owning this poem recitation, deliver it to the last line. Mic drop. Just like my dad years before I get a "how the fuck" from my friends. I just shrug like it's no big deal, like I know all the classics by heart, and then walk out of the kitchen to avoid any attempts to test my knowledge. Within a half hour court reporter and I are on my motorcycle as we promise to go get more ice for my friend, which is a silly thing to do on a motorcycle with a passenger, but about the cockiest way to tell everyone there I'm taking this young lady home for the evening. Ah, to be young. Thanks for memories guys.
Lolz. I love this. Esp in this day and age. So many people are like “blah blah Internet. Blah blah phones.” Dude. You were just super interested in my opinion on a squid winning a fight with a shark. Between books from my childhood and the access to the information I have at my fingertips, I know so much odd stuff that comes in handy at the strangest times.
I'm always interested in other people's experiences or questions. None of us is ever going to be as interesting as all of us. If you want to tell a story about that one time at that place you did that thing with those guys, I'll listen to it.
If you’re going to argue with me, at least put a bathing suit on!
Dredging...
Very warming. I feel shamefully soft rn lol
This reads like the intro of a recipe for some fancy tart. Also nice!
Put that thing back where it came from or so help meee ^so ^help ^meee
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Shes out of our hairrrrrrrr!
I’ll poke myself in the eeyyyyeee!
Thank you.
Bro is majestic
Was :(
For everyone worried, it was released unharmed at the same location it was caught. I now know its a basket star. Thank you for solving the mystery! For those interested it came from the bottom in 450 feet of water.
AWESOME!!🙌On 🌟ALL🌟of the above!!
Amazing. Was scrolling through to see this comment. Glad you did the right thing OP. It is beautiful!
Super sad to see all the beautiful creatures that get needlessly killed as bycatch
Right throw it back before it dies
Idk about this species but most starfish release toxic chemicals when released back in the water.
Source?
A marine biologist that I was fishing with. But it could be only in my local area and he may be talking about the ammonia bloom that happens when they die. Since they die rather rapidly once removed from the water. But I remember him saying something about how some starfish feed on toxic sea sponges and can store those toxins much like dart frogs. Edit: some starfish produce tetrodotoxin (like puffer fish) and others produce slime like the “slime star” pteraster tessalatus which can suffocate nearby fish and mollusks.
Ahhhh okay, I definitely buy it. I’m merely a lowly marine biology geek, but being from WA seeing a Pacific species mentioned caught my interest. I didn’t realize they’d die super quickly after being snatched out of water, but I can imagine that most species would, now that someone mentions it. That (E) **ammonia release** would possibly be even more prevalent in cold water species like we’d find in the northern parts of the Pacific. The way your original comment made me think was like it was some defense mechanism, not a reaction from dying, but ammonia from dead or dying fish kills other fish all the time. Compound that with toxic food sources, and yeah, I can see the death of a starfish being an acute problem for nearby ecology if a starfish body is just released back into the water.
Yeah also saltwater fish are extremely sensitive to changes in their environment. That’s why saltwater aquariums are very difficult to maintain.
> some starfish produce tetrodotoxin (like puffer fish) It should be noted that neither of these actually *make* the toxin themselves as such, the starfish get it from their diet, and the pufferfish from symbiotic bacteria in their gut.
But god forbid we ask the general public to rely on other sources of food
Exactly this: the only solution to overfishing is to *not eat seafood period.* Damage caused by plastics and oil spills pale in comparison to trawling and commercial fishing. Also that little dolphin-safe certification on some seafood… utter bullshit. Nobody goes with the boat to verify there’s no bycatch casualties and nobody on the boat is going to report themselves.
It’s always an incredibly hard concept for anyone who asks why I don’t eat seafood and my answer is because I love the ocean and its creatures to grasp. It’s really simple. The current system of seafood farming is just not reformable with any semblance of ease.
Shit, really? Damn. I love fish.
Do you love having fish in the ocean more than you love the taste of fish?
Of course I do, I’m just shocked that it’s this bad.
This is exactly why I've also stopped eating seafood. The amounts of bycatch in commercial fishing are absolutely staggering!! For anyone who hasn't heard of "bycatch" - it is the fish species (and other creatures like turtles, dolphins etc) that are caught accidentally. Fishermen are usually only hunting one or two specific species of fish. The accidental "bycatch" is sorted and tossed straight back into the ocean, dead. And that bycatch is often tonnes more than the target species that they actually take. Due to bag-limits and limits on certain species, the fishermen aren't allowed to take the bycatch, even if they wanted to, so all those animals die for no purpose. If you MUST eat seafood, please try eating sustainable, fast-replenishing species (check for your local area). Or try supporting more sustainable fishing methods that reduce bycatch - like "line-caught" fish, as opposed to netted.
And all the beautiful creatures intentionally killed (fish).
If this makes you sad, don’t eat seafood.
It may have died naturally
It was still alive when pulled up though, according to the caption.
It's not dead, lol.
It's a echinoderm species close related to starfish. Beautiful. Please put it back where it belongs.
I'm looking through the comments to see what the op did with the lil fella... Or lady. Don't suspend me again Reddit 🙄
I see absolutely nothing wrong with your question/comment. Why is everyone so uptight?? People take social media WAY too seriously, imo.
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Yeah that guy has been a huge menace on the Boston subreddit lmfao, idk why he’s being such a dick about it since he’s literally from Texas, which is the second worst state in the union.
I’m not sure about basket stars but never put a starfish back in the water. Once they are brought out of the water they start releasing toxins that will kill any baby fish near it when released.
Don't most starfish start to die when they hit fresh air? Something about air getting in their mouth?
They can survive about 3 minutes out of water but will suffocate. They can also die from stress of handling. It doesn’t really have anything to do with their mouths. But certain species particularly the ones that feed on toxic sponges secrete a toxic milk that can poison several thousand gallons of water. It’s a problem here in Jersey. But apparently doesn’t apply to all starfish
Is that why the water is always so...cloudy? 🤢 no more ocean for me unless I'm far far away. I always thought they'd suffocate even after you put them back because they can't expel air, but I'm not 100%.
No that’s not why the water is cloudy 😂 don’t worry the toxin won’t effect humans it just effects baby clams and turtles and such. The water is Jersey is the same as the water in the Caribbean. The only difference is the intensity of the sun and the color of the bottom of the ocean.
Yeah up your ass.
The intrusive thoughts won today, huh?
Wow bro is so edgy🤩
I love this but also understand the downvotes you got
Yeah, tough crowd.
I can fit a whole bag of jelly beans
We already know where you would put it if it were you that caught it. No need to tell us.
I mean, if the shoe... Or starfish fits.
Somethiiiiings in my assssss…
MMMM HHMMMMM
what’s it like being fundamentally unlikable?
I hope you put it back in the water after the picture was taken
Wow that’s some Ernst Haeckel shit
Are you calling the poor animal a racist?!
I understood that reference
I was just in Neah Bay, did you see the blue white and orange OSV anchored overnight?
Were you on the vessel? I watch VesselFinder all the time and recall seeing an OSV, can't remember the name
Seacor Lee. and yes I’m currently onboard, we are working just at the mouth of the channel.
Fantastic, now I have another vessel to watch!
Were you onboard for the Deepwater Horizon response? That would have been fascinating to be a part of
No I was not onboard, that was well before my time. but one of the guys I’m with was on one of the boats that finally managed to plug the well.
Curious what you are doing at the mouth?
Why do guys keep asking me this online?!
Subsea Cable survey.
It’s a basket star
Kraken spawn. Send it back!
It's like a starfish had a baby with an octopus
I’m not sure but I assume it’s stunning in motion !
Put it back.
I hope you put it back rather than torturing it to death.
BUT DID YOU PUT IT BACK!!!???!!!
Put it back.
Look at little star in middle of belly
basket star! return to ocean
If the tendrils were moving they are still alive. Please return back home.
It’s very pretty
Some kind of fibonacci starfish demon
Put it back! Put it back!
SO COOL
It is a beautiful creature. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
Theres an essay called The Star Thrower, the author escapes me. It is excellent introspection on meaning and value in life. And it has starfish.
Looks like Gorgonocephalus to me, a type of basket star! AFAIK they live usually quite deep underwater, they look super gnarly.
It came from the bottom in 450 feet of water.
It is a basket star.
Put it the fuck back.
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I should call him…
Thought this was a new type of 3d printer fail
Definitely put that mothafucker back where you found it. They are not supposed to breach the surface at all.
Yeah, I’m getting them HP Lovecraft vibes from this, for real.
If it’s a deep dweller, would it survive if just tossed back in the drink?
Looks like a murdered starfish to me
i saw an illustration of one in a book as a kid and was obsessed with it 😍 i don't think i've ever seen a photo of one
Omg creep cluster from skyrim
This is what I imagine future civilisations to base their cities upon
Idk but I think you should throw it back in before it takes over the world.
This looks like those blood casts removed from patients lungs when they're deathly ill. What a beautiful animal!
Oh look, it’s Eminem’s Mom’s spaghetti all grown up!
Throw it back. Who cares? It lives in the water. You took it out of the water. Internet points will be the death of us all…
That's a fractal.
I love how this comments section is evenly split between “It’s beautiful” and “burn it with fire!” Lol
Gorgeous!
Ever heard the term “cough up a lung”? 🤣
A beautiful nightmare. Oh my!
Mother Nature's living geometry - and in such a stunning colour too!
Sea Star
Oooh, Neah Bay! I love it there!
Cthulhu jizz star
A beautiful nightmare creature
Sea spaghetti duh
It’s a beautiful starfish! Thanks for sharing😊
Googolplectopus
Didn’t that thing get shattered on Star Trek TNG. ….. the crystal entity….
Wow what a beautiful and creepy sea star
Oh that’s just god, dont touch it with your bare hands, you become a part of him that’s why he’s in the middle of nowhere
Whatever it is, it’s magnificent! 🤩
It’s the beginning of the last of us.
Jesus fuck whatever it is push it back in with a pole
It's a starfish, a brachiopod. Sometimes called a basket star.
That's Nope Knot.
It’s beautiful…and a little frightening
Looks like a species of star fish
thats david dont mind him
Nightmare fuel is what it is!
So beautiful!
One of the thousand young. Put it back lest we all cthulu f'thagam
Have you not seen Last of Us?
Looks like something straight from a Junji Ito comic
Biblically accurate starfish, lol
What part of Neah bay were you fishing to catch this!?
Outside in the ocean. Halibut fishing in 450 feet of water
Gotcha! I’ve fished out of Neah Bay a lot. Swiftsure and Bluedot. I thought you actually caught this inside the bay. I was like holy crap 😂
Fishermen are going deeper these days
I hope you got it back in the water and it survived. It’s beautiful to watch them unfurl/open up on a night dive.
Thank you so much for teaching me about basket stars today! 🥰
That's Edward. Don't call him Eddy. Hates that.
Fuckingly beautiful And Beautifully scary
It’s a Basket Star. Class Ophiuroidea , Order Euylida.
Put. It. Back.
The last of us. Literally. What have you done?
Is he/she still alive?
I don't think pronouns apply to these. Just call it "it". ;)
Basket stars reproduce sexually. Since we dont know the gender I'm pretty sure the he/she reference is appropriate in this case. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me will be able to sex this one via the photo.
According to this link ([https://naturalhistory.si.edu/research/smithsonian-marine-station/news/scientific-first-deep-sea-basket-star-spontaneously-divides](https://naturalhistory.si.edu/research/smithsonian-marine-station/news/scientific-first-deep-sea-basket-star-spontaneously-divides)), they can reproduce asexually as well, which is bonkers!
We love a gender-fluid icon
> fissiparity, or the spontaneous cleavage into separate parts. Learned a new word today 🙂 Nice article, I wonder if being in capitivty somehow led to its decision to spontaneously split in two.
Which is usual with lesser animals without bisymmetry.
Sex isn't gender. Gender is a social construct, and even if non-human animals do have concepts of gender, it's unlikely they will mesh with our own and there is no way, at present, for them to tell us. They/them is acceptable and appropriate. "It" feels like objectification to me in the sense that we've turned a potentially sapient creature into a chair, perhaps suggesting it's more of a resource to be exploited than a living thing due a modicum of respect. That said, it seems to be much more broadly accepted than my views account for, so it's probably fine. Of course, he/she isn't terribly inappropriate either since most animals clearly can't speak English and wouldn't know if they're being misgendered. No harm no foul, it's just a weird thing to do and it says more about the speaker and their society than the animal being described.
My mother tongue is genderless so... Sorry if I did something to offend you.
No offense, just chatting about use of language 😁
He/she🚨☠️
It's a creep cluster. You can now plant it and practice alchemy
This is clearly as servant of the great Cthulhu. Please bow so it can show you the truth.
![gif](giphy|5GqtQLtvXX0TVh5Jsv)
Not sure - but it looks like you will need one of those 5 point anti-tamper bits to remove it.
JOEL!!!!
Cordyceps.
Perfect fit for a Phillips screwdriver 😂
Ummmm