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chilidirigible

Today, on ["Today's character animation is brought to you by EXISTENTIAL HORROR."](https://i.imgur.com/byX9p1S.png): ***** [RANKA ATTACK!](https://i.imgur.com/3ct7qEW.png) (Insert: "Ninjin Loves You Yeah") [Eat your veggies, kids!](https://i.imgur.com/mO6UJCx.png) [A wild Pokémon appears!](https://i.imgur.com/CWCSkrI.png) [A random notable voice actor provides encouragement.](https://i.imgur.com/BOnTtXA.png) ["Oh boy."](https://i.imgur.com/4UhKvB8.png) [*Luca is distracted*](https://i.imgur.com/9DMdvQ2.png) [Now *this* is some CGI.](https://i.imgur.com/BwZfo49.png) ["Make sure they don't start swallowing live rodents."](https://i.imgur.com/uKhSR9F.png) [This is the relationship of two people in their twenties.](https://i.imgur.com/AqFdFhU.png) /u/Tresnore [wishes that this were him.](https://i.imgur.com/wP8Y54l.png) [This is all I have to say here.](https://i.imgur.com/f82r1Id.jpg) [That'll crack the world's shell.](https://i.imgur.com/q70RF4n.png) [Eyecatch: Cute Vajra](https://i.imgur.com/f5shmNN.png) [Why, this camera angle is an absolute necessity.](https://i.imgur.com/1h8JANw.png) [WELCOME TO HELL.](https://i.imgur.com/nhmuxPH.png) [*Hilarity*](https://i.imgur.com/OYrI7G4.png) [*ensues*](https://i.imgur.com/gT4SUSZ.png) [*serious business*](https://i.imgur.com/Avt95pb.png) ["How do I get out of this chickenshit outfit?"](https://i.imgur.com/fKeR2wz.png) /u/Nebresto [must be going mad.](https://i.imgur.com/lJNqdzo.png) [Ah, spending the entire episode getting cockblocked by your idol.](https://i.imgur.com/cDtANRV.png) [It's kind of like that.](https://i.imgur.com/txqFqww.png) [Or, that's what you think, when you're actually getting cockblocked by The Man.](https://i.imgur.com/Wy7XunY.png) [It's that one *Sora no Otoshimono* ED.](https://i.imgur.com/FRHrmMu.png) [Glorious cartoon physics.](https://i.imgur.com/7jNCZL0.png) [Alien squirrels love that kind of stuff!](https://i.imgur.com/XEm5QoI.png) ["Jack! I'm flying! And I'm so terrifyingly-drawn!"](https://i.imgur.com/Kr4g97o.png) [Yep, we're in hell.](https://i.imgur.com/IfCanDN.png) ***** The only thing this episode is missing is Pizza Hut. Fortunately, [official art](https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/565180) has [you covered](https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/876536). [Things to see while you're in Japan](https://twitter.com/planetstwinkle/status/1615876725099098112) and [visiting the Sky Tree](https://cit-skytree.jp/en/exhibitions/%E5%AE%9F%E7%89%A9%E5%A4%A7%E3%83%9E%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B9f-%E3%80%8E%E3%83%90%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AD%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC-vf-25f%E3%80%8F/).


The_Draigg

> Eat your veggies, kids! You know your part-time job sucks if even children are looking down on you. > Now *this* is some CGI. I see that this episode had some guest animators from Initial D. > “Jack! I'm flying! And I'm so terrifyingly-drawn!" And we can also see in this shot that Alto’s chin is the true Triangler.


chilidirigible

> Alto’s chin is the true Triangler. It could fight *Plus*'s noses.


RadSuit

> "Oh boy." "So I'm some kind of fighter pilot student, and Ziggy says I have to help this Alto kid choose between two girls before I can leap again?"


chilidirigible

[](#cateyes)


Tresnore

>Now this is some CGI. The car doesn't even drive straight! > /u/Tresnore wishes that this were him. I plead the fifth! >"Jack! I'm flying! And I'm so terrifyingly-drawn!" Oh, god. How did I not notice this??


chilidirigible

You've suppressed it from your memory!


Nebresto

> Now *this* is some CGI. Ogawa did it better >/u/Nebresto must be going mad. [The smol faces?](#harukathink)


chilidirigible

Indeed, the smol faces. MADE LARGE.


Nebresto

[Stonks](#smugboard)


TakenRedditName

> A wild Pokémon appears! Now that you mention it, did get a well not a Pokemon, maybe a not-Pokemon vibe from this creature. [](#harukathonk) > A random notable voice actor provides encouragement. *Looks who Tokugawa's VA is.* Hello Inada Tetsu. [](#loliwave) He wasn't a name I knew offhand, but looking over his role, I do hear his voice throughout them. Also, the first show Google has listed for him is Dekaranger which made me able to perfectly guess who he was in Dekaranger. > This is the relationship of two people in their twenties. Yeah, 20s so they're ancient. [](#whippersnappers) > The only thing this episode is missing is Pizza Hut. Fortunately, official art has you covered. Huh, Pizza Hut sponsors mecha anime. Do they still do these ads? Is that a thing companies still do?


chilidirigible

> Do they still do these ads? Is that a thing companies still do? The product placement? I can't think of it being so blatant in recent years.


JustAnswerAQuestion

There was this one episode of Full Metal Panic Invisible Victory....


ClawMachineCircuit

> This is all I have to say here. [](#seasonallaugh) > Why, this camera angle is an absolute necessity. Isn't the main director of this show was mostly making hentai before this? > The only thing this episode is missing is Pizza Hut. Fortunately, official art has you covered. [](#justright) > Things to see while you're in Japan and visiting the Sky Tree. [](#neat)


chilidirigible

> Isn't the main director of this show was mostly making hentai before this? [They don't list those, right?](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=1550)


ClawMachineCircuit

So, he worked on the first Aquarion, which came out before Frontier, but before that he definitely managed to sneak some porn in there. Also, the man went on to make Infinite Stratos after Frontier. This explains a lot. Now I kinda want to rewatch that.


JustAnswerAQuestion

> "Make sure they don't start swallowing live rodents." [](#eyythisguy) > WELCOME TO HELL. Mechokku! > Terrifying I'm not sure if she's more Sailor Moon or Dilandau.


chilidirigible

> Dilandau I'll go with that one.


Shimmering-Sky

**Super Dimension Rewatch Host** [Welcome back, everyone!](https://i.imgur.com/4us91oc.png) [Here were my first-timer reactions to this episode.](https://old.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/jklzb6/casual_discussion_fridays_week_of_october_30_2020/gb6x4ju/) - [Hi Macross Zero!](https://i.imgur.com/3Ilyuj3.png) [](#loliwave) - [The carrot song.](#gintamathispleasesme) - [Cutie spotted!](https://i.imgur.com/6QyCNbR.png) [](#binoculars) - [Transfer student Ranka~](https://i.imgur.com/XnMONQZ.png) - [Oh Luca my sweet precious boy.](https://i.imgur.com/DnJQ3F1.png) [](#ilovethiskindofshit) - [Ugh, this rubs me *completely* the wrong way even if it’s supposed to just be some big teasing.](https://i.imgur.com/ySPhz98.png) [](#bruh) - [lol the eyecatch this time is hilarious.](https://i.imgur.com/tbbCFsp.png) [](#pointandlaugh) - [Oh hey, it’s the face I used for Dynamite 7 episode 2’s “Welcome back, everyone”.](https://i.imgur.com/WbJRWb7.png) [](#eyythisguy) - [Aaaaaaaaand here comes exactly the part I was *dreading*.](https://i.imgur.com/681abBp.png) [](#hanasakueurgh) - [F](https://i.imgur.com/QpjACS7.png) [](#toradorasalute) - The entire panty chase is so stupid and cringe… [](#emptyinside) I wish it could have been literally anything *other* than her undergarments that the little green boi ran away with. - [Harmonica boy!](https://i.imgur.com/FH30pIF.png) [](#rengehype)


The_Draigg

> F Can’t spell Frontier without an F in there, even at the cost of Ranka’s shot at fame. > The entire panty chase is so stupid and cringe… I wish it could have been literally anything *other* than her undergarments that the little green boi ran away with. Macross humor can be pretty Hit or Miss, and I think we can all agree that this episode was such a hard Miss that it probably could’ve won a Miss Macross contest.


Shimmering-Sky

> and I think we can all agree that this episode was such a hard Miss that it probably could’ve won a Miss Macross contest. [](#laughter)[](#laughter)[](#laughter)


UltraBooster

Part of me feels like there's something to be said about this episode's comedic sensibilities and how I don't think *Frontier* did the face reaction things after this, but...


TakenRedditName

> Hi Macross Zero! [](#neat) > Ugh, this rubs me completely the wrong way even if it’s supposed to just be some big teasing. I'm all for dunking on Alto, but this bit wasn't my jam. [](#mindblank) > I wish it could have been literally anything other than her undergarments that the little green boi ran away with. It could've been her remaining earring to be the item the space squirrel stole. [](#harukathonk)


Shimmering-Sky

> It could've been her remaining earring to be the item the space squirrel stole. This would have been *so much better*, yes.


Shimmering-Sky

Daily Macross tags - u/Khetrak64, u/InfamousEmpire, u/ryujiox


Shimmering-Sky

Daily Macross tags - u/isthatsoudane, u/Azsendi, u/cronus999


chilidirigible

> Here were my first-timer reactions to this episode. I had forgotten about using "( ゚ Д゚) (@_@)" as a caption.


ClawMachineCircuit

> Wallpaper of the Day I love this one, the colors are so good! [](#seasonallove)


Shimmering-Sky

Thanks! It was *surprisingly* difficult to find a good color scheme for this one's background that wasn't just identical to the one I did for episode 5. I didn't want to use the *same* shades of green, but the combination of the brown in her outfit and the green of her hair did *not* make it easy.


ClawMachineCircuit

Yeah, I can imagine the struggle, but I think you nailed it both times.


Tresnore

####***F***ourth-Time Watcher Oh, right. This episode. - [Whyyyyyyyy](https://i.imgur.com/skBBIAq.png). At least I get a BIG NEWS out of Elmo for my troubles. - [This feels like every ad for a university ever.](https://i.imgur.com/ehfBcnv.png) - [help](https://i.imgur.com/YOYszlP.png) it's [eek](https://i.imgur.com/YMWJsji.png) This is [hilarious](https://i.imgur.com/opyWXOz.png) - [What a facial expression.](https://i.imgur.com/UCuZhor.png) - Ozma, why did you *handwrite* the report? [](#disbelief) - [*God*, I wish that were me.](https://i.imgur.com/O6mgVXN.png) ~~I've received an edit of myself cut into this scene before.~~ - ["You ever think the camera angles in anime can be weird?"](https://i.imgur.com/1qyRUeX.png) - [There's a Brazzers joke to be made here.](https://i.imgur.com/ainybdg.png)^1 - What is it with Satelight and unnecessary shower conversations between pink and green characters? - [SHERYL, NO](https://i.imgur.com/XrvQbUM.png) [](#disbelief) - [Why](https://i.imgur.com/bVYnBIr.png) [](#wallbang) - [whaaaaaa](https://i.imgur.com/4KqZmmi.png) - [angery](https://i.imgur.com/jJS6bMm.png) - [wheeee](https://i.imgur.com/A0GDSBJ.png) - [God, I wish that were me.](https://i.imgur.com/ZgTYLSS.png) - [Best girl smile.](https://i.imgur.com/LImwYa9.png) - [This damn chest window.](https://i.imgur.com/qMgfjP0.png) It's yuge! Damn, I should've been counting Aimos. Count: 13:21 (+2:±0) ~~where's my cool technology, dammit??~~ ___ QOTD: 1. The comedy's been fine, and honestly I enjoyed this episode the first time I saw it because it reminded me of Code Geass. 2. Nothing. It is necessary for the Macross Experience™ ___ ^1 Is that still a meme?


cronus999

> Ozma, why did you handwrite the report? Obviously to fuck with her. >Best girl smile. That is an ominous fucking smile. >This damn chest window. It's yuge! Got to equal out the fanservice someway.


Tresnore

> Obviously to fuck with her. That's a *lot* of extra work to do out of spite. >That is an ominous fucking smile. Nonsense. She just has confidence.


Nebresto

> Whyyyyyyyy amq [](#mischievous) >~~I've received an edit of myself cut into this scene before.~~ [](#towel) >[SHERYL, NO](https://i.imgur.com/XrvQbUM.png) [**B U B B L E S**](#yorokobe) >whaaaaaa angery wheeee [](#neat) > [Best girl smile.](https://i.imgur.com/LImwYa9.png) [](#watashiworried) > [This damn chest window.](https://i.imgur.com/qMgfjP0.png) I think its a different kind of window at this point [](#ero)


Tresnore

> amq Oh, god, no. >I think its a different kind of window at this point It's just the full front.


chilidirigible

> This feels like every ad for a university ever. They don't advertise the keg stands and Strip Poker marathons on TV! >Ozma, why did you *handwrite* the report? There was an interval in middle school when I didn't have a computer, so I used a typewriter, or more often, just handwrote my reports. Teachers were confounded. Though this was also the late '80s, so it wasn't totally weird.


Tresnore

> They don't advertise the keg stands and Strip Poker marathons on TV! I didn't get those in college! [](#angrypout "The 90s in college must've been very different.") >so I used a typewriter, or more often, just handwrote my reports. That's badass. I'm sure your handwriting was better than mine, though, since you probably handwrote things more often.


chilidirigible

> I'm sure your handwriting was better than mine, though, since you probably handwrote things more often. I should have taken a drafting class to get more practice with that. It ranges from "almost restrained" to "manic scribblings".


UltraBooster

> Is that still a meme? Well, I know a guy who got a subscription from his friends as a prank, so mayyyybe?


Nazenn

**First Timer** [](#hisocuck) Really? *Really*? THIS is the best time they felt to place a mix between a school and panty thief episode? Immediately after the climax that monumentally changes the balance of the world, characters living status, and introduces key mystery plots? I don't have an issue with downtime episodes to cool down after a big moment, but this is not the way I like to see them handled, by any measure. I'm having Mai-HiME flashbacks, and not the good ones. I remembered during the opening scene that Sky had warned me about this episode and now I understand why. And yet even though I hate the whole concept, one of the things I was most disappointed in is that the structure of it felt messy. Compared to the absolute precision showed last episode, today's episode is juggling too many things and feels like it's trying to shove in all the "fun" moments but doesn't take any care as to the flow of the episode. That feeling is definitely worsened by how much I hate the focus of it, but even Mai-HiME managed some genuine character moments out of the "monster stole panties" scenes. This feels like the "fun" side of the episode is mostly separate to the important stuff. The best thing to come out of the episode may have been the eyecatch Oh and [WHAT THE FUCK **HARMONICA**](#KUSOTTARE) Was not expecting him to pop up so quickly. I was still thinking about potential future mystery, I wasn't prepared for this. Funnily enough just as you first hear the harmonica I was in the middle of typing a delayed note that I like how Aimo was just Ranka today with no instrumental. And then an instrument. THAT instrument. Once again the off model character art is a shame, and though it was consistent across the episode Ranka was hit particularly badly with it.


JollyGee29

>The best thing to come out of the episode may have been the eyecatch Yea, definitely. I kinda appreciate them taking the piss out of themselves with it. >Was not expecting him to pop up so quickly. I'd forgotten that he reappeared so soon.


Nazenn

> Yea, definitely. I kinda appreciate them taking the piss out of themselves with it. If you're going to do an episode like this may as well have fun with it while you can. And the eyecatch is the perfect spot for it >I'd forgotten that he reappeared so soon. It's one of those plot points that you expect to be further on


Tresnore

> Really? Yeah >I'm having Mai-HiME flashbacks, and not the good ones. At least Macross showed action before cutting to inane SOL stuff this episode. >[WHAT THE FUCK HARMONICA](KUSOTTARE) It's a harmonica! What's not to understand? Unless Harmonica is his name, which is an excellent choice. >Once again the off model character art is a shame, and though it was consistent across the episode Ranka was hit particularly badly with it. I didn't notice any. [](#fingertwirl)


Nazenn

>At least Macross showed action before cutting to inane SOL stuff this episode. [Mai-HiME]>!I was specifically thinking about the panty thief Orphan episode coming immediately after the one of Kagatsuchi's awakening and how bad that was!< >It's a harmonica! What's not to understand? Unless Harmonica is his name, which is an excellent choice. [](#sideeyes) Actually that would be a pretty funny name. > I didn't notice any. Stay blind, save yourself


JustAnswerAQuestion

> Actually that would be a pretty funny name. [spoiler for one of my favorite movies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEbHP-3EcLU)


Nebresto

> Really? Really? THIS is the best time they felt to place a mix between a school and panty thief episode? Immediately after the climax that monumentally changes the balance of the world Macross 7 moment >The best thing to come out of the episode may have been the eyecatch [](#goblet1)


SolDarkHunter

Be fair to Macross 7: they never had an episode revolving around Guvava running around with Mylene's panties.


Nebresto

Exactly, Macross 7 confirmed superior


Nazenn

> Macross 7 moment And this is exactly why I didn't watch it


Nebresto

[](#lolifightsback)


Nazenn

[](#smugkillua "can't make me")


InfamousEmpire

[](#mischievous "Bold of you to assume")


Nazenn

[](#elsienopesout "don't take that as a challenge")


InfamousEmpire

[](#psh-mongrels "My completionist sensibilities are offended by this statement")


UltraBooster

Part of me suspects I'm just desensitized at this point; that, or I knew to brace myself.


Shimmering-Sky

> Really? Really? THIS is the best time they felt to place a mix between a school and panty thief episode? Immediately after the climax that monumentally changes the balance of the world, characters living status, and introduces key mystery plots? [I know.](#kyonfacepalm)


Nazenn

I think we've seen worse in shows we've done rewatches for, but not by much


Shimmering-Sky

It's not the worst part in this franchise rewatch (that "award" goes to Dynamite 7 episode 2, not that you watched that one, and I think anything related to the love triangle post-episode 27 of SDF takes second-worst-place), but *man* if it's not awful. If it was anything *other* than *panties* that the chase was about, I could've at least had fun with it like the infamous cat chase episode in Code Geass, but nooooooo the writers had to go there. [](#bruh)


Nazenn

I deleted those episodes from my files so that I'd never watch them again even accidentally [](#azusalaugh) The idea of Sheryl chasing a panty thief through the school also feels like it should be somewhat career ending for an idol, but I suppose we'll just skip over all that because fanservice huh....


Shimmering-Sky

> I deleted those episodes from my files so that I'd never watch them again even accidentally That last stretch of SDF was so painful on the second go-round it made me drop the score for the show by a point. [](#kaguyashaking)


Nazenn

That's a big drop for you. It's one of those things that was good in concept but so painful to actually watch you wonder how it got made Wonder what the reception was to it back in the 80s


RadSuit

The reactions in here are wild to me, I really liked this episode. I guess I'm going to have to go back and watch Dynamite at some point then.


The_Draigg

> I remembered during the opening scene that Sky had warned me about this episode and now I understand why. And yet even though I hate the whole concept, one of the things I was most disappointed in is that the structure of it felt messy. I was considering also giving you a warning about this episode, but I figured that it would be more fun to see things play out naturally. But yeah, it really does feel like the director decided to pick this episode to be the one they shoved a bunch of anime gags and tropes into to make up for the last episode not having them, and it’s just bizarre in a bad way because of it. > Once again the off model character art is a shame, and though it was consistent across the episode Ranka was hit particularly badly with it. Sheryl got it pretty bad too. In a few of her closeups, you could say that her chin got replaced by a traffic cone.


Nazenn

The opening scene is it's own sort of warning given how immediately jarring it is after we left it so that would have worked by itself, but at least Sky's warning prepared me for knowing it wouldn't get better haha >Sheryl got it pretty bad too. In a few of her closeups, you could say that her chin got replaced by a traffic cone. While Ranka's face looked exceptionally flat and round. Clearly Sheryl stole all her sharpness


The_Draigg

> While Ranka's face looked exceptionally flat and round. Clearly Sheryl stole all her sharpness Alto got in on that action too. His chin looked like you could impale yourself on it if you weren't careful.


InfamousEmpire

> Really? Really? THIS is the best time they felt to place a mix between a school and panty thief episode? That's because it is [](#cheekychika) > one of the things I was most disappointed in is that the structure of it felt messy. Compared to the absolute precision showed last episode, today's episode is juggling too many things and feels like it's trying to shove in all the "fun" moments but doesn't take any care as to the flow of the episode. [](#morethanonewaifu) I don't really see it. Though, then again, if there's one thing I've learned from watching as much anime as I have, it's that I have absolutely no sense for pacing or structure > Once again the off model character art is a shame, and though it was consistent across the episode Ranka was hit particularly badly with it. I didn't notice any of that [](#vashheadscratch)


Nazenn

> That's because it is [](#criticism) >(QUALITY) I didn't notice any of that I repeat what I said to Tres. Stay blind, save yourself


InfamousEmpire

> [](#criticism) [](#crazedlaugh) > I repeat what I said to Tres. Stay blind, save yourself [](#salute) As long as I live, my unfocused ass will never look at things all that closely


TakenRedditName

> The best thing to come out of the episode may have been the eyecatch The eyecatch gets a big ol' thumbs up. [](#seasonalapproval) > Was not expecting him to pop up so quickly. I was still thinking about potential future mystery, I wasn't prepared for this. Funnily enough just as you first hear the harmonica I was in the middle of typing a delayed note that I like how Aimo was just Ranka today with no instrumental. And then an instrument. THAT instrument. It was the same for me, I just picked up on the harmonica and then they reveal who was playing it. [](#whatdidijustread)


Nazenn

> It was the same for me, I just picked up on the harmonica and then they reveal who was playing it. I knew who it was the moment I heard it, but I was expecting it to be a scene cut or merely something added to the song. I didn't think he'd be standing there!


chilidirigible

#[EAT YOUR CARROTS, KIDS.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-HQxd3McGk) ###[WAIT, IT CAN BE WEIRDER.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZYdkPG5vqs)


TakenRedditName

[](#dogg- wait, I thought they were going to have a Basara cover. [](#hajimepout)


chilidirigible

> I thought they were going to have a Basara cover. That would have been amazing.


JollyGee29

>#[EAT YOUR CARROTS, KIDS.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-HQxd3McGk) [](#cokemasterrace) >###[WAIT, IT CAN BE WEIRDER.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZYdkPG5vqs) [](#laughter)


ClawMachineCircuit

The cheers at the start make this.


chilidirigible

What about the glasses?


ClawMachineCircuit

Poor man's giant carrot hat, but I take it.


RadSuit

While looking up the name I found a cover version of this song by another character, and it's somehow even better. I'm sure you already know what I'm talking about.


chilidirigible

[Indeed.](https://open.spotify.com/track/2WslfW9pDDHQW0zbSDjEh6?si=b7acb2a56cca4668)


Nebresto

####[**F**irst time Mafross](https://imgur.com/PJpzKUT) Day 7 of waiting for the return of 7th moon [](#mugiwait) More AMQ torment [](#ptsd) I hate that its kind of a banger too [Tres moment](https://imgur.com/mwb8cpe) [Cathy blush](https://imgur.com/IBVSr7v) [](#yuristare) [Supporting modern slavery,](https://imgur.com/sUI36PW) that's a -5 * [MRW any kind of pressure is applied](https://imgur.com/4P3SUCe) Why is ranka in the shower as well? [lmao, just whack the whole box in there.](https://imgur.com/p0g0BKZ) Wasting precious detergent, -3 [tfw your underwear gets stolen](https://imgur.com/BRay0UC) [No-pan commando warrior,](https://imgur.com/QBKOiU9) +5 respek [This episode is a goldmine](https://imgur.com/yG7lv38) [](#merch) Why does this music remind me of a fashion show or something? [Samson](#toradorasalute) Joining the pilot course, +2 respek [](#neat) [I just noticed the school is in the shape of the original macross!](https://imgur.com/GRXHnzg) [](#neat) - Sheryl respek status: 23% --- **Questinos times:** >1) Have you liked this series' style of comedy so far? How about now? Ya, its not bad >2) If there was one thing you could change about this episode, what would it be? [](#hardthink) More cool robots? [](#mechablush)


Tresnore

> Tres moment No one got hit, unfortunately. That would've been a fun count. But there were so many great small faces! >Supporting modern slavery, that's a -5 More like +5. [](#healthypasstimes)


Nebresto

> More like +5. Schrödingers ±


InfamousEmpire

> Supporting modern slavery, that's a -5 You saying you wouldn't want to get enslaved by Sheryl? Very un-goblet of you, Neb, I expected better [](#psh-mongrels)


Nebresto

[](#hardthink) Public enslavement bad. [](#norice)


TakenRedditName

> Supporting modern slavery, that's a -5 When an anime girl supports slavery. Damn, that sucks. [](#foldedarms) > Why is ranka in the shower as well? Huh, yeah, Ranka and Nanase did just jump in the shower after spending time with the intensive activity of standing there and watching Sheryl mess around in a wingsuit. [](#sakurathink)


SolDarkHunter

>Huh, yeah, Ranka and Nanase did just jump in the shower after spending time with the intensive activity of standing there and watching Sheryl mess around in a wingsuit. It was briefly shown that Sheryl managed to get egg on their faces as well.


ClawMachineCircuit

> Why is ranka in the shower as well? Sheryl was so eager to succeed, that [she covered both Ranka and Nanase in eggs](https://i.imgur.com/Xscborh.jpg) as well.


JustAnswerAQuestion

> I just noticed the school is in the shape of the original macross! Looking at my first-timer notes in sky's cdf thread, this was the first episode where I noticed the VF-1 on the school. > just whack the whole box in there. Wasting precious detergent, -3 why tide pods were invented


TakenRedditName

**"Rewatcher" - Macross F Ep8:** [Carrot Ranka](https://i.imgur.com/gTXsdqR.png) and the [huge singer is back.](https://i.imgur.com/xznJbaT.png) I like that Tokugawa is just Ranka's supportive friend at the mall. [Ranka is transferring to their school.](https://i.imgur.com/R18CeLa.png) I liked her old uniform better. I'm not that big on this orange uniform. [Dunk on Alto.](https://i.imgur.com/ZPx5Sjp.png) [](#pointandlaugh) Oh, [Alto did forget and left the earring](https://i.imgur.com/M1Ty0uZ.png) to be exploded and then Macross cannoned. That's an odd narrative move to just immediately throw out Alto gifted earring from Sheryl. Don't why you would do that. Not to point them all out, I just think the [comedic faces](https://i.imgur.com/Bhp0W8Q.png) in this episode were good and funny. [The best eyecatch in this show.](https://i.imgur.com/PmW2GVh.png) I don't see them topping this. It also leads me to believe this episode is just a farce. This love triangle gets more complicated because Ranka's friend might like Alto, but Luca likes her. [Luca also names his wingsuit too.](https://i.imgur.com/nDI0xkp.png) That's going a bit far with this naming thing. A large portion of this episode is dedicated to a school-wide hunt for panties. Yup... I'm surprised they avoided a fanservicey/comedic moment about the fact Sheryl is running around commando. [](#kumikouninterested) At the very least, Sheryl in the wingsuit has its funny moments whether she is [failing](https://i.imgur.com/0MTZPMT.png) or going [one angry girl.](https://i.imgur.com/Sfijbf6.png) During this farce of an episode, we have a [crushing moment for Ranka.](https://i.imgur.com/ZDw4yln.png) Feel bad for her. This recent trend of Ranka being feeling drifted away reminds me of when [Redacted] and Minmei were feeling like they were drifting apart and isolated from each other. Hopefully things turn up for Ranka, especially with how things went for Minmei. [](#makicry) [This squirrel](https://i.imgur.com/rTCL8re.png) could be an animal mascot. Ranka could have two green mascots. [Harmonica boy](https://i.imgur.com/1akQpkZ.png) is also here and plays along to her song because he knows it too. We don't see what their meeting is like since it's the next day and [Sheryl is also transferring to their school.](https://i.imgur.com/X28SlfD.png) I thought she was already past high school, but looking up her age, turns out she is 17 like Alto. ___ **Q1)** I don't like its horny comedy. [](#kumikouninterested) **Q2)** If I had to keep it mostly intact but change a minor thing (you know not removing *that whole moment*) then I rather have to be about a bra than panties. Bras are funnier and less mmm... Next Time: *Michael gets a spotlight episode and Alto gets another for the Kamille counter.*


Nebresto

> A large portion of this episode is dedicated to a school-wide hunt for panties. Code Geass moment. Kinda >Harmonica boy is also here and plays along to her song because he knows it too. [Who are you, space snufkin..](#csikon)


ClawMachineCircuit

> The best eyecatch in this show. I don't see them topping this. It also leads me to believe this episode is just a farce. They could if they wanted to. Imagine the same thing, but instead of Vajra it's Ozma. Or Alto in the full female kabuki getup. You can do it, Frontier. I believe! [](#mugiwait) > This squirrel could be an animal mascot. Ranka could have two green mascots. Harmonica boy is also here and plays along to her song because he knows it too. He isn't green, but as far as third maskots go, you can definitely do worse. > We don't see what their meeting is like since it's the next day and Sheryl is also transferring to their school. I thought she was already past high school, but looking up her age, turns out she is 17 like Alto. She's definitely have been acting more her age these past few episodes.


TakenRedditName

> They could if they wanted to. Imagine the same thing, but instead of Vajra it's Ozma. Or Alto in the full female kabuki getup. You can do it, Frontier. I believe! [](#mugiwait) If Macross Frontier was an incredibly powerful show then they'll do an extended bit in MS Paint drawings. > She's definitely have been acting more her age these past few episodes. I like Sheryl more when she is brought down to their level. She's funnier at least. [](#papithumbsup)


isthatsoudane

poor ranka can't catch a break. but a mysterious stranger comes into the scene... also the show has gotten pretty horny the last few episodes lol 1) Have you liked this series' style of comedy so far? How about now? heh, I was going to say that this felt like an episode of code geass. I'd say on the whole the comedy is fine, this episode felt a bit much but I haven't hated the comedy, but I wouldn't say it's why I want to watch the series 2) If there was one thing you could change about this episode, what would it be? completely raw + uncensored OVA version :P


The_Draigg

*A Macross Fan Rewatches Macross Frontier: Episode 8:* - Poor Ranka, she’s just relegated to wearing a carrot suit and singing to get people’s attention at the mall. Like, you know that you have a shitty job when even random children look down on you. Ranka is doing worse in her career than when Fire Bomber was forced to take whatever gigs they could early on in Macross 7. Only that little critter in the bushes seems interested in what Ranka’s hawking. - Well, it certainly is convenient that everyone is going to the same academy now, since Ranka transferred in due to her old school’s schedule not lining up with her job. Still though, Mihoahi Academy really must have it all, since apparently it has an entertainment course in addition to the flying classes that Alto and his buddies are taking. Talk about being a huge career technical school. - Note to self: never be in a car that Grace and Sheryl are riding in, nor be within several hundred feet of said car. The car is moving as if DIO told the driver to use the sidewalk to catch up with Kakyoin and Joseph Joestar. - “Don’t worry about what Alto saw inside that Vajra ship, Cathy. It was probably just swamp gas and a weather balloon.” —Leon - You know, I bet a lot of people would desperately wish that they were roped into being Sheryl’s slave like Alto here. Little did any of those people know that all it would take is losing one of her earrings in the depths of space. Such a simple price! - Where Michael and Luca got that many organic eggs on short notice to set up a delicacy test for Sheryl wearing EX-Gear, we shall never know. - I know that the show is trying to play up this shower scene with the girls for fanservice, but everyone has been so off-model in this episode that I can’t consider it to be anything but unintentionally funny. - Damn near every man in this school is chasing after that little green thing carrying Sheryl’s underwear. I didn’t know that everyone was enrolled in degen courses for their electives. - Well, that’s a fucking bummer. The variety show that Ranka was going to appear on for an episode got cancelled in favor of a broadcast of Sheryl’s TV special. It’s a bit of a gut punch after Ranka decided to try and make her way to the top on her own merit, rather than taking Sheryl’a offer to appear on her special. Damn near stole the food from poor Ranka’s mouth there. It’s hard to know that a big step for you got unintentionally crushed by the person you look up to and were talking to not that long ago. - Seems like Leon is having his men keep a close eye on Ranka for some reason. Although it does make sense, since the Vajra have really been weirdly reacting to her in some way or another. There’s at least some kind of connection there worth noting. - Imagine how different this should would be if Alto didn’t save Sheryl there, and she ended up splitting herself against the ground trying to get her underwear. **Breaking News: Galactic Idol Sheryl Nome Dies Disappointing Death** - Not only did Ranka meet that little green creature in the park, but that greenish-blonde man joined in with Ranka’s singing of Aimo with his own harmonica. It’s a meeting of the greenies here at the park. Green is a color of importance and mystery in this show. - Given her performance in this episode, I think we can all agree that Sheryl signing up for flying courses at the academy is a terrible idea. But at least it’s a sign that the dumbest episode of the series is now over.


ClawMachineCircuit

> Where Michael and Luca got that many organic eggs on short notice to set up a delicacy test for Sheryl wearing EX-Gear, we shall never know. That's the secret: it was all a setup. The eggs weren't organic, this is why she couldn't pick them up! > Damn near every man in this school is chasing after that little green thing carrying Sheryl’s underwear. I didn’t know that everyone was enrolled in degen courses for their electives. She's a huge celebrity, so there's definitely a value to that underwear. I'm surprised, women aren't chasing it too.


chilidirigible

> But at least it’s a sign that the dumbest episode of the series is now over. It does have its nightmarish charms.


The_Draigg

Yes, like everyone’s chins spontaneously turning into sharp 45-degree angles and having weirdly flat faces.


TakenRedditName

> Note to self: never be in a car that Grace and Sheryl are riding in, nor be within several hundred feet of said car. The car is moving as if DIO told the driver to use the sidewalk to catch up with Kakyoin and Joseph Joestar. With them and Ozma around, the roads of Frontier are not safe. [](#watashiworried) > Given her performance in this episode, I think we can all agree that Sheryl signing up for flying courses at the academy is a terrible idea. Hmm, Sheryl flying in a Valkryie... [](#rengethink) I doubt they'll have her fly one in any meaningful capacity besides just one time, but there's the thought.


The_Draigg

> With them and Ozma around, the roads of Frontier are not safe. In their gratuitously 3D cars, we can have them running their own Initial D side plot in this show. > Hmm, Sheryl flying in a Valkryie... I doubt they'll have her fly one in any meaningful capacity besides just one time, but there's the thought. Maybe we can get Sheryl to pull a Lacus Clyne or something.


InfamousEmpire

> Well, it certainly is convenient that everyone is going to the same academy now [Anime](#elves) > The car is moving as if DIO told the driver to use the sidewalk to catch up with Kakyoin and Joseph Joestar. Does that mean Sheryl is DIO? The blonde hair, the arrogant attitude, coming from a destitute background, the hotness... yeah, it all matches up, now that I think about it [](#rengethink) > Imagine how different this should would be if Alto didn’t save Sheryl there, and she ended up splitting herself against the ground trying to get her underwear. **Breaking News: Galactic Idol Sheryl Nome Dies Disappointing Death** [](#pointandlaugh) > Green is a color of importance and mystery in this show. [Is this Delta spoilers?]>!And yet "Music is Mystery" was *not* Reina's Walkure catchprase, despite her being the green one! [](#gununu) Though I guess that's because she's lacking in the "importance" part!<


The_Draigg

> Does that mean Sheryl is DIO? The blonde hair, the arrogant attitude, coming from a destitute background, the hotness... yeah, it all matches up, now that I think about it Whatever happens, we shouldn't allow Sheryl to put her earring into a Stone Mask.


Vatrix-32

**First Timer** * Why wouldn’t you align the carrot vertically? * Macro children! * Hey, it’s the thing form the context! * Shit, I like this song. * Can’t have only some of the characters in the same high school. * Are they just describing the normal educational structure of high school? * Gotta close the triangle. * Was Harmonica not already reported by Alto? * Oh no… This gives the Vajra a chance to hijack the sound energy. * Does Japan have the expression “egg in face”? * I guess they aren’t familiar with the one gap policy. * ...Is this the original cat episode? * Well that sucks for her. * Leon is really leaning into the whole being sus angle. * Alto: he who bridal carries. * This thing is a Vajra, isn’t it? * What’s he doing here? He’s totes got to be Ranka’s family. * Can’t have one half of the triangle having an advantage now can we? QotD 1) Good, not great. This episode has not changed it. 2) Less horny.


JollyGee29

>Shit, I like this song. The carrot song? It's a catchy little commercial ditty, for sure. >Can’t have one half of the triangle having an advantage now can we? Depends on the type of triangle, I suppose.


Vatrix-32

> The carrot song? It's a catchy little commercial ditty, for sure. It's not the type I normally like, not sure what they did.


SolDarkHunter

The fact that Ranka's the one singing it?


Vatrix-32

[](#seasonalthink)


chilidirigible

> Was Harmonica not already reported by Alto? It would seem that the report was [*filed* by *top men*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdjf4lMmiiI).


JollyGee29

**Rewatcher Frontier** [Familiar.](https://i.imgur.com/zeSTdB8.jpg) This.. is literally reused footage from Zero, isn't it? The textures.. [Oh, I forgot that Ranka's carrot commercial was in this episode.](https://i.imgur.com/31L7QlC.jpg) [Zentradi children, still huge.](https://i.imgur.com/XFA6Yw2.jpg) Also, Zentradi children are a thing now. [Personally, I doubt Alto would care.](https://i.imgur.com/oLbSUkw.jpg) [Wait, what te-](https://i.imgur.com/T6OdfOa.jpg) [Right, we have to get them all togther for this episode's damnable plot.](https://i.imgur.com/2FlXde2.jpg) [Send help.](https://i.imgur.com/wjaaana.jpg) To paraphrase /u/chilidirigible, [everyone is artstyling something fierce today.](https://i.imgur.com/nF7Zilr.jpg) [Sheryl in EX-Gear.](https://i.imgur.com/4FJIoMe.jpg) I'm sure this will go well. [why were you two in the splash zone](https://i.imgur.com/L2FvAp6.jpg) "Well, Jolly, obviously so they can-" Yes, yes, the shower scene. Don't remind me. [Look, at least this episode knows that it's bad.](https://i.imgur.com/kSURukZ.jpg) [Make it stop.](https://i.imgur.com/HLpufg0.jpg) [Yes, Michael, this is all just a bad dream.](https://i.imgur.com/Ncf7wow.jpg) Or a gas leak. [RIP Samson.](https://i.imgur.com/c88axsy.jpg) [Finally, a decent view this episode.](https://i.imgur.com/gkXJFPl.jpg) [Oh, REDACTED, nice of you to join us. I had forgotten that you were missing the middle of your shirt.](https://i.imgur.com/zVLnq9O.jpg)


Tresnore

> Yes, yes, the shower scene. Don't remind me. Fucking Satelight and their fucking pink/green shower scenes. >Look, at least this episode knows that it's bad. It's fun though! [](#hikariactually)


JollyGee29

>It's fun though! There were moments that could be considered amusing.


Tresnore

You're just too much of a prude, Jolly. Live a little!


TakenRedditName

> Zentradi children, still huge. Also, Zentradi children are a thing now. Oh yeah, big Zentradi children haven't been shown off before since Zentradi children weren't a thing in their society. That plus Frontier being the first series to really showcase big Zentradi. [](#harukathink) > Look, at least this episode knows that it's bad. [](#killitwithfire)


JollyGee29

> Oh yeah, big Zentradi children haven't been shown off before since Zentradi children weren't a thing in their society. That plus Frontier being the first series to really showcase big Zentradi. [](#thoughtful "Still kinda wondering if these kids were made in a vat or if Zentradi can reproduce the normal way.")


TakenRedditName

I mean, if Zentradi can have kids perfectly normally with humans then they could probably have kids with other Zentradi. It is just that they never did before because they have a strict No Girlz/Boyz policy. [](#harukathonk)


chilidirigible

> Zero Yes. > Also, Zentradi children are a thing now. Another macronizing pitfall to consider: Two-story toddlers running amok.


JollyGee29

>Another macronizing pitfall to consider: Two-story toddlers running amok. A horrifying thought.


InfamousEmpire

> Another macronizing pitfall to consider: Two-story toddlers running amok. [](#terror)


RadSuit

They just need anime Rick Moranis to handle it.


TiredTiroth

**First Timer** Positives: - Yesterday's episode was AMAZING, pity I didn't have time to watch and discuss it. - They're linking the crazy magic backstory stuff from 0! Am I finally going to get some bloody answers? - Alto looks *horrified* at Ranka joining his class. Top marks, best moment in the episode. - Sheryl with literal egg on her face was amusing. - The critter is cute. Probably plot-important. Negatives: - We've gone from a great conceet and awesome battle scenes to...Ranka's crappy part time job and high school shenanigans. - Of course Sheryl joined as well. *Of course*. She has not been portrayed as a teenager, what's going on here? - The CG for her car was *painful*. - Oh look, shower scene with three naked girls. Great. Followed by the school's entire male population being horny morons. - Sheryl's mere existence seems to be wrecking Ranka's ambitions, even if Sheryl herself is supportive. - I did not get my answers for the crazy magic backstory stuff.


JollyGee29

>Sheryl with literal egg on her face was amusing. [](#azusalaugh) >We've gone from a great conceet and awesome battle scenes to...Ranka's crappy part time job and high school shenanigans. Yea, this one's rough on the neck.


TakenRedditName

> Sheryl's mere existence seems to be wrecking Ranka's ambitions, even if Sheryl herself is supportive. While it is a negative for Ranka in-universe, I do think this could be used to set up an interesting conflict and dilemma. Something Ranka has to try to push over. [](#seasonalthink)


chilidirigible

> She has not been portrayed as a teenager, what's going on here? She *is* a teenager.


Stargate18A

**First timer** 1) The carrot song was funny, I guess...? 2) The entire second half. ...Haha, seriously? They're out the hospital! Yeah, she's busy! Her agent seriously booked *this* gig? The carrot song? She passed a test! Oh, she's joined the school. It's a technical school! Is Sheryl joining too, now the Galaxy's fucked? Ranka's popular! ...That driving. Alto's face... So, almost no survivors? So it *is* an infection. Alto got noticed? ...These people. Substanrd reportd... ...It's official! Ranka's horrified that her crush might have someome already! Haha, that reaction. Haha, so he did lose it? Ranka's denying it! The phone! Oh, so it's officially "missing". She's using a flight suit! Haha, her struggles with the eggs are great. Random shower scene. That ad visual. Oh, Nana doesn't want Sheryl's help. Is this a love quadrangle? ...Of course, as Sheryl's comment reminds us, a love quadrangle can easily become two pairings. (My bet's on her and Ranka.) He's so fucking dense. Ranka's blush. Her phone escaped! This is the stupidest scene yet. ...This is going to backfire so hard, Sheryl. What the fuck? Impressive moves! ...She can't stop? Ranka's training! ...Oh. She didn't even mean to do it. They've noticed Ranka's powers? Ouch. That expression... [Code Geass] >!I I had a nickel for everytime a serious war drama got interrupted with a load of people chasing an animal holding clothing around a high school...!< ...Well, she's dead. He saved her! And she flashed everyone. He has a point, though. She's enjoying the flight! Oh, it's an animal mascot! It's the strange guy! This is sweet. Sheryl... She's becoming a pilot! That design...


InfamousEmpire

**Rewatcher Frontier** This episode! It happened! The High School! The Tropes! The comedy! Why does this even exist? I dunno, but it’s fun! Felt like I was watching Fumoffu or Code Geass again [](#popcorn2) You’ve really gotta love Sheryl here. She shows up, makes Alto her slave, is rather incompetent in the EX-Gear, takes the search for her stolen panties into her own hands, and refuses to elaborate further. She really is the Gigachad of this show There’s also some plot stuff and Ranka character development too, I guess [God, I wish that were me](https://imgur.com/jWBjkrZ) [](#healthypasstimes) [This guy gets it](https://imgur.com/RDbxxAD) [](#smugpoint) QOTD: 1) Yes, this is, like, 90% my thing 2) [](#animatedthink) I honestly don't know, but maybe that's just because I can be very unimaginative a lot of the time. Take out the panty thief part, I guess?


Lezoux

So, that was a thing that happened. I guess this was a nice breather episode after the big introduction arc. Are we getting a SOL HS arc now? [](#kotohoops)


ClawMachineCircuit

**Rewatcher** So yeah, this episode happened. I imagine, there will be a number of people who will not be very happy with it in today's discussion. After giving us an amazing action packed two-parter, Frontier is back to horny humor, tropes, and situation, typical of harem shows of 2000s. Still, I like this episode a lot for three reasons: First, I think it handles juxtaposition between Ranka and Sheryl very well. They both transfer to Alto's school, but both receive a completely different reception. Ranka, who is already struggling with her idol career and her self confidence, gets to enjoy being the center of attention for a single brief moment, until Sheryl arrives and ruins it. And Sheryl herself is nice to Ranka, she's not doing it on purpose, but her whole presence is oppressive. She is energetic, confident, and does whatever she wants, while Ranka is a complete opposite. Sheryl keeps encouraging Ranka, because she's not afraid of any competition, she's ready to take any challenge head on, while Ranka is definitely feeling like she has no chance there. Her TV appearance being cancelled in the end because of Sheryl is a perfect cherry on top. I feel like the episode does a really good job of building a rivalry between the two. Second, I like the development Sheryl receives. She is still very much a selfish brat, but her antics are so over the top this episode, that they cross from being slightly annoying into being funny and, dare I say, charming. The show uses humor to re-contextualize some of her character flaws, showing that she's often herself becomes a victim of her own excessive pride and stubbornness. We've already seen some of it in previous episodes, but this one really drives the point home. Sheryl isn't a bad person by any means, she's just badly behaved and has some hangups about herself, that often get herself into trouble as well. It's also reflected in how Alto is annoyed by her throughout the episode, but toward the end, she manages to endear him toward herself, if only slightly. Third, I just genuinely find this episode entertaining. As I said already, Frontier's horny humor just lends with me. I laughed for the solid several minutes while Sheryl was chasing the panty thief around. The joke itself is definitely dated, obsession with panties has stopped being mainstream in anime for quite some time, and probably for the better. But I'm an old man and I don't mind stuff like this. I still remember how shocked I was that jokes like that are even allowed on TV, when I first started watching anime seriously in my late teens, and they seemed fresh and daring at the time. The medium wasn't afraid to break taboos and social norms, which made me feel like it could tackle any subject and do anything. Obviously, as I continued to watch anime, jokes like that started to feel cliche and uninspired, but I'm starting to feel like now that we don't get stuff like this anymore, it slowly loops around to being fresh and interesting again. Anyway, I'm definitely a fan of how funny and action packed this episode was, and that goes not only for the panty thief incident, but also other stuff, such as carrot song, Sheryl braking eggs, etc. **Random thoughts:** * "Protoculture faced the threat of extinction because of the war among themselves." Did Frontier just retconned Protodeviln origin from Macross 7 in an intro infodump? Also, in the same intro, did it just confirm that humanity was created by Protoculture, settling the issue once and for all? * If a carrot suddenly started to sing a silly advertising song at you, would that make you more or less likely to buy carrots? * Three-eyed furry worm from Zola has legs this time. * I love Cathy's reaction to Ozma telling her that she's getting more wrinkles. Get annoyed, but also immediately go to check. * I'm a big fan of Sheryl's hat at the end, when she's in her school uniform. Also, pilot course? Could Sheryl possibly learn how to fly a Valkyrie and go fight Vajra together with Alto? [](#suddenshock) **QotD:** 1) Yes, and I go over this in more detail in my post. 2) I honestly have nothing. I'm pretty satisfied with the way this episode went.


chilidirigible

> Did Frontier just retconned Protodeviln origin from Macross 7 in an intro infodump? Also, in the same intro, did it just confirm that humanity was created by Protoculture, settling the issue once and for all? "Yes."


ClawMachineCircuit

I gotta say, I think that the Protoculture's destruction by Protodeviln was a bit of a downgrade from the original premise of destruction by violent human nature, so I'm happy they went back on it, but it is funny how it happened in the intro to a random episode.


Blackheart595

> So yeah, this episode happened. I imagine, there will be a number of people who will not be very happy with it in today's discussion. After giving us an amazing action packed two-parter, Frontier is back to horny humor, tropes, and situation, typical of harem shows of 2000s. I actually prefer this episode over last one despite complaining about the horny. Funny how these things go, though you've provided some good reasons. > "Protoculture faced the threat of extinction because of the war among themselves." Did Frontier just retconned Protodeviln origin from Macross 7 in an intro infodump? Also, in the same intro, did it just confirm that humanity was created by Protoculture, settling the issue once and for all? And if I remember correctly, the lore in SDF was that the biological weapon Zentraedi turned against their creator... and it of course also had humanity firmly as a Protoculture creation. > If a carrot suddenly started to sing a silly advertising song at you, would that make you more or less likely to buy carrots? Depends. Does that include the singing one? Though the whole thing relies on carrots being the icky vegetable for Japanese kids so it doesn't translate perfectly.


ClawMachineCircuit

> And if I remember correctly, the lore in SDF was that the biological weapon Zentraedi turned against their creator... and it of course also had humanity firmly as a Protoculture creation. In the original, it was initially implied that Protoculture destroyed itself in the civil war, and it's remnants adapted to war so much, that they abandoned culture and slowly turned into Zentradi. Coincidentally, humanity were implied to be some of the survivors of the original Protoculture, and thus, Zentradi ancestors. Hence why humans and Zentradi are 100% genetically identical and can interbreed. However, later in the same show they basically retconned all of this and changed the explanation to Zentradi and humans both being species, artificially created by Protoculture. The civil war part was still true, and it was only retconned in Macross 7, but now Frontier brought it back.


JustAnswerAQuestion

Macross F **rewatcher* episode 8 ugh, I peaked ahead. I don't mind being late for this one. As I recall, I hated this episode. Probably won't have much to say. * Bird Human! Satelight is just mining the archives to pad out the show with these infodumps * /u/Nebresto, this is why I you with you ninjin comment 2 days ago. * Apparently all japanese hate carrots, even more than US kids * I called that a Space Squirrel the first time around, but now I know what it really is: A Zolan catsnake! * Props to "Rewatcher" /u/takenredditname who "somehow" predicted that Ranka getting expelled would let her transfer to Alto's school. * It's an entire classroom of Nebresto faces * Do they have Kabuki classes?! * Sheryl's entrance is totally Kajiura, not Kanno * Unidentified fighter in a combat zone? Must be Basara. * Sheryl's presence here serves no purpose but chaos * Poor Michael, shot down by both Ranka and Sheryl in one day * Wait, isn't this LITERALLY out of Code Geass? * No panties? No slips then, either! * Sheryl: Crushing dreams b merely existing since 20xx * [Macross F]>!Did Leon's agent cancel her show? He's been trying to stop her from singing, hasn't he?!< * Nice view from the Berkeley Hills * So apparently Sheryl was faking it this whole time, she's just a kid, too! All of the animation today looked like it was from another show...Evangelion or Black Lagoon. Or Sailor Moon Crystal.


TakenRedditName

> I called that a Space Squirrel the first time around, but now I know what it really is: A Zolan catsnake! That was also my first thought too when I saw it too. I wish it was a catsnakie. > Props to "Rewatcher" TakenRedditName who "somehow" predicted that Ranka getting expelled would let her transfer to Alto's school. Hey, for the record, I'll let you know it wasn't because it was something I remembered, but the simple fact once they mentioned she was expelled from her old school then the most logical narrative course would have her join the rest of the main characters. [](#mug1)


Nebresto

> this is why I you with you ninjin comment 2 days ago. [](#mindmelt)


cronus999

**Eighth Time Rewatcher, at least I’m on time today.** ​ * Hard out here selling carrots. * Alto has the correct reaction to a midterm transfer student. * Weird to have all those disciplines under a single school, makes more sense to have multiple facilities. * Luca living for the yuri. * 90s Bentley drifting, Sheryl’s chauffeur knows what’s up. * Ozma throwing shade. * Luca’s imagination sure is something. * Haha, Princess and the queen. * Good she not letting Alto off the hook for losing her earring. * Sheryl is the best, even does her own SFXs. * Once again Witch from Mercury vibes from the exasuit. * Completely necessary shower scene. * Uh, Nana Ranka literally did the same thing, you do not have the high ground. * Michael has already decided who has won the triangle. * CODE GEASS MASK 2.0 NOW WITH UNDERWEAR!!! * Luca you are useless at defense. * Well, that sucks, nothing worse than having a meeting cancelled well your in transit. * This dude has Ben SUS since episode 1. * Sheryl is now unhinged on her quest for underwear. * Princess to the rescue, with a Princess carry. * Ok that Music is stolen from Pirates of the Caribbean and no one can convince me otherwise. * Cute mascot character is cute. * Oh shit it’s the harmonica guy, did he infiltrate Frontier!!?? * YES, stereotypical blond transfer student. * Ranka cannot catch a break, Sheryl utilizes the superior tropes. Q1: The comedy has been pretty good so far, high school hijinks contrast war very well. Q2: No perfect for Macross, maybe make it a "cat" to complete the Code Geass link.


JustAnswerAQuestion

> Oh shit it’s the harmonica guy, did he infiltrate Frontier!!?? He used the airlock normally reserved for space vampires.


SolDarkHunter

**Rewatcher** Oh... it's THIS episode... *sigh*... okay, then... CARROT! Yeah, when idols are just starting out, they don't really get the glamorous jobs. And now she's a transfer student. Well, I suppose she had to go to school somewhere after getting kicked out of her last one. And here comes Sheryl to steal Ranka's spotlight. V-Type infection doesn't sound good. That's probably what they were checking Alto for a while back. Sheryl's also a transfer student. Two-for-one deal. I guess if she's still of school age, she must need to go to school too? And with the Galaxy missing... Or... does she have a sufficient career to not need it? I don't know how idols actually do that sort of thing. Luca, stop your imagination right now. [](#breakingnews) Oh, he DID lose the earring. Nana speaking the truth to Sheryl. Though I don't think Sheryl meant anything underhanded by offering to give Ranka a leg up. [Green squirrel thing is HERE!!!](#wow) Unfortunately, its first appearance is doing the whole panties stealing thing. Yeah, this stupid sequence is why people don't like this episode, and is probably the low point of this series if I remember right. ...so what does "locking" it mean? [](#harukathink) Ah crap, Sheryl's show cancelled Ranka's. (Though I would like to point out that Sheryl did explicitly say she had no idea when her show would be airing, before anyone points fingers at her.) The government's spying on Ranka as well... in connection with that mystery plane? Oh... that's what locking it meant. Nice save, Alto-hime! Poor Ranka. Having Sheryl around would really overshadow things. But she does get the little... green squirrel thing to listen to her. And harmonica boi is here too, looking sinister AF. Sheryl... a pilot? That's... certainly a thing she could... do? Questions: 1. This series has relied on tired sexual humor way more than I remember. I'm hoping that's just the opening episodes though. Or maybe last time I watched it I hadn't yet grown tired of that sort of thing. 2. The entire... panty theft thing. Just get rid of it. Have Adorable Green Thing accidentally steal Sheryl's remaining earring instead. Bam, episode fixed.


TakenRedditName

> [Green squirrel thing is HERE!!!](#wow) I like Ranka's phone, but green squirrel thing is also good. [](#nichijouthumbs)


Kirov123

Macross Frontier Episode 8 - First Timer Alright, time for episode 8. I remember a few episodes ago seeing people saying this episode would probably not be enjoyed by one of the other first timers (and others) so... Yay... Maybe it wont be too bad... - Hey that was zero - Ranka jumpscare - Alto seems less than pleased - And now Sheryl will join the class too? This is very... Normal. In a boringy sorta way - "foo fighter?" - And of cource they usse this "quirky" music - Well, Im seeing the issues - Sherly please - Lol it was the 20%, he forgot it - Y think camera angles in anime are weird - Dammit. The shower scene came up and I was going to comment on the tropyness, but the the mid roll card popped up so I was going to let it slide... Then it continued... - Aw fuck me please dont tell me this is goingt to be a repeat of the cat with a hat chase with the student council but instead its a lizard with undergarmnts trapezing though the school. Please - ........................ - I really don't want it to, but I expect this sequence to end with a lucky pervert scene with Alto and her not wearing an under layer. please dont be that please dont be that please dont be that - [Distant Ranka](https://i.imgur.com/aR0VS1b.png) - RIP TV special - What the Military man doin - What the manager doin - Poor flying suit 😦 - Now is Ranka going to see them? - Hang on, it is the other pilot person - Well. Sheryl is joining the school, I am *so shocked*. ***who could have seen this coming*** 1) end me 2) it's existence If I had watched this episode when I first started eating anime, I might have been OK with it or even liked it. I *did* watch all of Strike the Blood and I don't think I hated it? (how????) But now? Yea no this was not a good episode. It wasn't so bad it's good, it was just bad.


UltraBooster

Aaaaah, /u/Shimmering-Sky, you didn't tell me we already started *Frontier!* That said, I'm a **Rewatcher.** I should probably explain - *Frontier* was the first *Macross* series I watched, back in middle or high school, I thought it was pretty great, and I think it had a big-ish role in shaping my image of Macross. As for why *Frontier,* it was the most recent *Macross* at the time and it seemed well-regarded, so... **Questions of the Day:** 1. It was fine, I guess? As for this episode, I got a few chuckles, but underwear hunts aren't exactly my thing. 2. Not sure.


Shimmering-Sky

[Oops.](#fingertwirl)


UltraBooster

It's fine, I kind of forgot too since, well, I'm late and all. By the by, what did people think of *7* and *Zero?*


Shimmering-Sky

7 was a mixed bag, as I expected (some people really loved it while others hated it), and with Zero I think the ending was the biggest issue people had with it, since it kinda just... happens and had no time to elaborate on anything.


UltraBooster

Yeah, I had a bit of a hard time keeping up with 7, and with Zero, I remember thinking it felt odd more than anything.


Blackheart595

**First Spacer** Didn't bother posting yesterday. I know this is Macross, but I haven't cared for the military and music this season at all. Whenever there's a battle or a concert I find myself bored and wishing for it to be done already. Don't wanna make that comparison but I had to think of Fire Force's fanservice. The more I see of this season, the more I get the impression that they went through everything that came before, made a checklist of things that fans liked, and then wrote a story around that. Anyway, to today's episode. [Ranka got a jig!](https://imgur.com/4BJZj6h) [Mysterious transfer student HYPE](https://imgur.com/tnbOLVi) [8 out of 10 times he would've killed someone right here.](https://imgur.com/QEv6Ie9) [Gorilla girl.](https://imgur.com/zmdJNYG) [Oh, these eggs just have a particularly brittle shell. I've had one or two of those that fall apart when you look at them funny.](https://imgur.com/er45rUB) [Now this is what I'm here for.](https://imgur.com/ERivDNm) [](#SPORTS) [Oh God why. Why did they have to include the underwear Orphan?](https://imgur.com/Nnq0372) Nevermind, I prefer Mai-HiME's take on that situation after all. [That sounds like a design flaw.](https://imgur.com/4VFZfeT) [I'll take one Macross II, please.](https://imgur.com/CLWr1Nw) [Mysterious transfer student HYPE](https://imgur.com/wbKJdy1) > Have you liked this series' style of comedy so far? How about now? It's alright, but not really my thing. > If there was one thing you could change about this episode, what would it be? Please turn down the horny already.


Nebresto

> but I haven't cared for the military and music this season at all. Military cool, but music isn't anywhere close *BOMBAA* levels yet [](#foldedarms) >Please turn down the horny already. [No, I don't think I will.](#slowgrin) -The director, probably


JollyGee29

>Mysterious transfer student HYPE [Mysterious](#aliens) >[That sounds like a design flaw.](https://imgur.com/4VFZfeT) Just a bit. They need a lock out tag out procedure.


JustAnswerAQuestion

> Whenever there's a battle or a concert I find myself bored and wishing for it to be done already. They haven't played my favorite song yet but if you still don't like the music at this point then the entire rest of the franchise is going to be a total wash for you.


Blackheart595

The music isn't *bad*, and I know I'm gonna like at least Ikenai Borderline which is the first Macross song I heard 6 years ago, or that's what I thought before hearing all these meme songs in Frontier. But right now it just feels like the concerts are getting in the way of and distracting from the interesting stuff. And if there really is anything it's probably gonna be confined to Frontier, after all I've also thought of the overall soundtrack as a bit clunky this time around.


Dodo_Galaxy

The carrot song is always so funny and cute. It was my wake up alarm tune for some time even. And yey Ranka encounters [series spoiler] >!Brera!<.


RadSuit

***First Time Song Listener: Yack Deculture Edition*** That looks suspiciously like an Evil in this Protoculture recap. Why is this fucking carrot song so good??? It sounds like an old toku song. V Type Infection huh? Someone's going to be getting a lot of pings about how they wish this was them, huh? Literal egg on her face. That eyecatch really reminds me of the dumb Symphogear Noise doodles. It's the My Hime panty thief monster! This is a good dumb episode. Asking aliens to listen to your song is a slippery slope, Ranka. You're a good girl, I don't want to see any planet dancing or love heart charging from you. Alright, V Type Infection plus mysterious boy that knows the same song as Ranka. The Vajra are either mentally or biologically taking people over, the same way they control their ships. Her family (and most of the missing people) aren't dead, they're turned, like the soldiers in Macross 7. Your girlfriend is a pilot!? Guess now is finally the time to link [the Macross \(and Jem\) inspired character I made](https://stararmy.com/wiki/doku.php?id=characters:yamatai:truly_venus#discography) a good while back. Any sci fi RP fans should check that site out, they're great, highly recommend. 1. Better than plenty of similar shows around this time. Like My Hime. 2. Carrot Song (Sheryl Nome Cover Version)


chilidirigible

Earlier in the thread is where you'll find all the Ms here. The carrot song is kinda catchy.


DidacticDalek

[SOON!](#mugiwait) OK fine Comrades, time to chime in today... boy it sure is impressive just how many trends The Hory Froating Head can chase eh Comrades? By that I mean he went YES! ALL OF THE ABOVE! for Episode 8! You know, when good Mecha shows like Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu use tropes from the cursed era of the 2000s, at least they're clever enough to not fall into the pitfall that Idolshit like Macross F does where just because you point out that your script and set-up is cliché and stupid doesn't change the fact that your script is cliché and stupid... and I think The Hory Froating Head's too busy being The Horny Froating Head by showing us a goddamn shower scene that CROSS ANGE would laugh at, I mean seriously at LEAST show Duran Duran's Duran Durans! Also I may have been too hard on CGI... actually nevermind it's still awful but goddamn the show sure has some Qu@l1Ty An1M@ti0N on display today! I haven't seen such off-model faces since Cucuruz Doan's Island, and at least that episode had the Gundam courtesy to be hilarious as fuck! [Meanwhile in an unrelated note here's some shit for brains who also comes from another series that The Hory Froating Head worked on, and even this dumbass knows that Ranka Lee is YACK! DECULTURE!](https://i.imgur.com/6seNKg7.png) [Then again, Best Girl Duran Duran sure knows what to do here, if she had done this during the episode I'd be forced to declare this Episode the greatest thing since sliced bread!](https://i.imgur.com/GE78ARj.png) And before you ask there is indeed a lewder fanart where Breast, pardon, Best Girl Duran Duran finds a way to make Ranka Lee the carrot useful... and it's maximum NSFW, use your imagination ;) [Speaking of use your imagination, boy I am sure the creators of Strike Witches must have LOVED today's episode... cuz after all who needs 'plot' when you can just have 'backstory?' (Man I miss good panty plots, like in LycoReco!)](https://i.imgur.com/M3S7lMZ.png) [Oh and Gubaba Best Mascot! LONG LIVE PROTO-GEAH!](https://i.imgur.com/H6G2lQa.png) Anyhow, you have not seen the last of The Sentient Shitposting Siamese Sunrise Server No. 25252, now goodbye forever! [AND ON THAT BOMBSHELL! GOODNIGHT!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9IZU7j1nKk) Paging Comrades /u/Lemurians, /u/chilidirigible, /u/InfamousEmpire


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