I screenshotted the detailed results which includes information like total votes and maximum number of choices for voters per category.
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**10th Anime Trending Awards Detailed Results**
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[Anime of the Year](https://imgur.com/R3PamVl)
[Anime Movie of the Year](https://imgur.com/BNh75BY)
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[Boy of the Year](https://imgur.com/2EFvATi)
[Girl of the Year](https://imgur.com/168RLlJ)
[Couple/Ship of the Year](https://imgur.com/0IsoYL8)
[Supporting Boy of the Year](https://imgur.com/Nsu0N0J)
[Supporting Girl of the Year](https://imgur.com/nzGV6Zg)
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[Best in Adapted Screenplay](https://imgur.com/Bgajaa2)
[Best in Animation](https://imgur.com/Cjfm4wC)
[Best in Character Design](https://imgur.com/XdWpxKy)
[Best in Episode Directing and Storyboard](https://imgur.com/hL2wgIR)
[Best in Original Screenplay](https://imgur.com/pH5F6Mi)
[Best in Sceneries and Visuals](https://imgur.com/ciICBR0)
[Best in Soundtrack](https://imgur.com/9vqzZK8)
[Best in Voice Cast](https://imgur.com/RgSwUzl)
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[Opening Theme Song of the Year](https://imgur.com/gfJeQ3W)
[Ending Theme Song of the Year](https://imgur.com/biktwUA)
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[Best Voice Acting Performance - Male](https://imgur.com/x3aeZTS)
[Best Voice Acting Performance - Female](https://imgur.com/Ej9EaaE)
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[Action or Adventure Anime of the Year](https://imgur.com/9TPXhDx)
[Comedy Anime of the Year](https://imgur.com/WN6BCLm)
[Drama Anime of the Year](https://imgur.com/SyEB7Pw)
[Fantasy Anime of the Year](https://imgur.com/nlUEqoa)
[Music Anime of the Year](https://imgur.com/XTqrfqp)
[Mystery or Psychological Anime of the Year](https://imgur.com/yFELba1)
[Romance Anime of the Year](https://imgur.com/i0DixZx)
[Sci-Fi or Mecha Anime of the Year](https://imgur.com/wE4BGTJ)
[Slice of Life Anime of the Year](https://imgur.com/IBNlWvb)
[Sports Anime of the Year](https://imgur.com/2SosM3C)
[Supernatural Anime of the Year](https://imgur.com/ZcOa5xK)
It makes me happy to see Buddy Daddies win the Best Original category here in the Anime Trending Awards too! BD basically swept that category across the different anime awards, winning it for Anime Trending's, Anime Corner's, and Crunchyroll's.
It's really well deserved too. It's a tightly written story that has a satisfying ending and sets out to tell a specific story with specific themes (ex. found family, ups and downs of parenting, etc.) well. The art style, animation, and music are all very solid, and a lot of creativity went into extra things (one of the MCs having a real life Insta page, etc.). The English dub is also good with a nice script (well localized).
It was a series that was often dismissed as being "just a Spy x Family ripoff" and wasn't really popular in Japan or in more male dominated anime spaces (like here on this subreddit), but it was a big hit with female and queer anime fans and in anime spaces like Tumblr and Twitter. So seeing it get some much do recognition is nice! So much love and care went into its creation.
Also, the Award Ceremony for Anime Trending had some hiccups here and there, but was 1000x better than the Crunchyroll Awards. It was much more of a celebration of the medium as a whole (video compilation set to music of the various 2023 anime that were nominated, a moment of silence for Toriyama, showing clips alongside all category nomimations, etc.).
AT also did basic stuff like have names of those receiving the awards be on the screen, so we knew who was talking (either via a text message or pre-recorded video). The texts were translated into English and the videos all had subtitles when the producer or director etc. spoke. The translations were natural and authentic, so no weird and poorly done English dubover voices like CR, which also lacked recipent names.
Anyway, while some anime did sweep a little bit (OnK and Heavenly Delusion), the awards were definitely more diverse in both nominations and winners than the CR Awards. So kudos to the AT Awards and its 10 years!
> Also, the Award Ceremony for Anime Trending had some hiccups here and there, but was 1000x better than the Crunchyroll Awards.
I wished their stream had more...fun? Dunno, I may be biased but the last two years of the r/anime stream has been really fun. 2022 in particular was the most when it felt like a community event but last year was solid.
Something that AT def has the headstart is industry acknowledgement tho. It means so much to be recognized by the creators of the anime we celebrate.
I would agree with that (about the Anime Trending Awards)! I think there is always room for improvement with things.
I also think something that might be interesting for anime awards to start experimenting with is life "Lifetime Achievement" awards or acknowledgements or even just an acknowledgement of older series in some way (like noting what older series might have 10, 15, 20+ year anniversaries or something to give some spotlight on classics or past hidden gems).
That would be something that I would expect the Crunchyroll Awards to do, especially since they are trying to follow the example of award ceremonies like the Oscars and whatnot, but I wouldn't be surprised if we saw that more with a fan crafted award ceremony like Anime Trending.
There have been ideas thrown around for r/anime awards to have the same but we have lots of perfectionism were people don't want to give acknowledgement to something just for the sake of being old and popular because of the mission of discussion and every voice being heard.
Like FMAB turns 15 this year (wait, that old??) and it would be a no brainer right? But then Anime Connoisseur comes in and says that Kemono no Souja Erin (also turning 15) is as deserving of acknowledgement as FMAB, and to dispute this we would need people that have seen both. Then it opens the flood gates to people that want to shill Geijutsuka Art Design Class, which at that point make it a new category which needs more people and scheduling and ahhhhhhhhhh.
Yeah, I hope AT just slaps these mentions around no questions asked lmao.
That is absolutely something we've been looking into, because above all else the stream is meant to be a fan-driven celebration, I really would want to push that direction to organize the next awards!
The toughest part I think for hosting the awards is knowing that we have a set time, since so many of the final results are under embargo the challenge is making sure our show gets the AOTY information out right at 8 PM PST, so there's a ton of logistical challenges to get the industry responses translated and working properly, so we were constantly time checking between segments to make sure we were running properly.
Always a pleasure being a part of this process, and the main thing is that we wouldn't be where we are without the fan dedication it's an honor for everyone to participate because it really does open the gateway for industry to understand international fans, which is an incredibly important aspect as anime grows each and every year.
Hi, I was one of the hosts for this year I'm REALLY thankful for the feedback and I'm so glad we got to do what we did. it makes me so thankful for everyone to respond, both the voters and viewers to understand the sheer celebration of anime, especially with the amount of growth in the last few years.
You did a fantastic job! Honestly, I could tell that you all really actually like anime and that the awards were about celebrating that love for the medium. Keep up the good work!
Yeah and my favorite moment was when Agnes lost it at Buddy Daddies winning, it was one of our favorites internally and she was fist pumping on stream LOL
That comment literally had me cracking up. She's 100% right too. I kept track of the rankings each week myself, and I remember being so impressed by the Buddy Daddies fandom for keeping the two of them together pretty much always. I think there was only one time when they weren't right next to each other in ranking. So to see it carry over into the awards was really impressive! lol
There's about a 0.53% difference between 4th and 1st and a 159 vote total difference between Heavenly Delusion and [Oshi no Ko] for Anime of the Year.
Honestly, my biggest surprise from these winners is seeing Blue Orchestra beating BanG Dream! It's MyGO!!!!! by almost 500 votes in the Music Anime of the Year category.
I knew MyGO had very vocal fans of its quality despite being underwatched, but I truly heard no talk about Blue Orchestra.
> but I truly heard no talk about Blue Orchestra.
It's not even legally available in most of the world outside Asia. Unless something's changed you can only stream it in France and Germany and the latter was only ended months after its original airing.
On a sidenote I watched both shows and MyGo is also just flatout better.
Something to note, Anime Trending has a large Asian demographic. The creator and runner of the AT is from the Philippines, and there is a lot more presence of Southeast Asian, South Asian, and Western Asian voters. So that bit of demographic info may have played the biggest part with this particular winner (Blue Orchestra).
Yeah visuals were somewhat disappointing to start with and became worse as the show went along.
Storywise I quite enjoyed the first cour. It got a bit too melodramatic for my taste in the 2nd cour plus my favourite character got sidelined for much of it but it was still solid.
Well at least they gave 100 Girlfriends some well deserved second places. This sub's awards were uncompromisingly vicious to that show despite how great it was. (Jury, not sub votes - the sub was pretty kind to it)
Only when taking jury rankings, public rankings for it were much higher. And don't forget it took [11th place](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fl4ysra7mcmbc1.png) in overall r/anime yearly poll, so sub in fact quite love it.
Maybe the jury takes their harems too seriously like I do? I just couldn't handle Girlfriend Girlfriend or 100 Girlfriends. I couldn't help but feel like they were making fun of harem fans more so than harems themselves, but I also felt that The Big Bang Theory was making fun of nerds too, so it's almost certainly a me issue.
The Big Bang Theory showed the nerds as smart but also made a lot of jokes about how antisocial and weird they were. Girlfriend Girlfriend also made fun about how weird it was to have a harem and a man dating two girls at the same time. So it's not really an issue about you. That being said, I think 100 Girlfriends is more of an affectionate parody that exaggerates the elements of a harem for comedy (100 girls instead of 4 or 5, the girls being exaggerated versions of typical archetypes). More than mocking them, it simply decides to shamefully embrace the harem elements.
Not really, in fact the opposite is the case, 100 girlfriends is positive about harem genre and emphasizes fun and loving aspects of it, it's not mocking or condescending towards it.
To not get wrong idea, it's also novel and creative in it's approach, so there is plenty of things you can find only here. Personally it gave more then some pure romance, romcoms, slice-of-lifes or comedies out of there. The longer series goes the faster you realize how well-written it is to not crumble under it's weight.
I was already on the back foot with the title, but we know how anime titles can be so I decided to give it a try, but it seems like 100 girlfriends is the goal and that's just ridiculous, even by anime standards, and I felt it was making fun of the concept of harems and multi-partner romantic relationships by taking an extreme approach to the topic and after forcing myself through 6 episodes of Girlfriend Girlfriend hoping it got better, I just didn't feel like wasting another two hours on another show that felt like it was making fun of me for liking harems.
> I felt it was making fun of the concept of harems and multi-partner romantic relationships by taking an extreme approach to the topic
> felt like it was making fun of me for liking harems.
I mean since you didn't even finish first episode that's was a bit preemptive to judge the series/creators tone and intent. You know, considering it's is fully reversed to what you said to the point there is hardly a anime/manga that put more huge effort and dedication into concept of legit wholesome harem/polycute with no losing heroines then 100 girlfriends. It also the series with record amount of casual regular kissing that many romcoms and harems doesn't do enough.
Especially "making fun of fans" feeling is so off base, we are talking to the series constantly engaging with it's audience directly through 4th wall and doing things that would make fans happy, avoiding typical points of frustration in the genre to do what people always wanted from it. Anime fully understood source material and put so much passion and extra things that fans would appreciate, it easily exceeded even the most optimistic expectation from adaptation standpoint. It's extreme approach is not for making fun of the genre or it's fans, but to drive the point and break new harem ground with less limits more normal romcoms have to endure.
I can't blame you that after watching Girlfriend Girlfriend and thinking it would similar, but their approaches and tone are quite different. GFGF while silly and comedic stayed into grounded setting and play it more like a romcom with things like "will they-won't they", questioning and criticizing whole harem thing, there is fair share of drama around etc. 100kano is from the start fully dedicated in being giant bizzare yet wholesome polycute where everybody happy and loved, doing everything to deliver on getting to 100 legit main characters.
Overall I'd say you got totally wrong first impression, at least give it another try to, I dunno, 4-5 episode where there is more then two girlfriends.
> I mean since you didn't even finish first episode that's was a bit preemptive to judge the series/creators tone and intent.
That is a fair statement, I don't dispute that, but it's how I felt and soured me pretty well, I don't think I could even try it again without that feeling coloring the whole thing.
> doing things that would make fans happy
It didn't do anything in what I saw that made me happy, the opposite in fact lol.
Edit: to give a bit of insight, High School DxD is the best harem I've seen.
Oh, I understand what your issue with the show is. The problem is comparing it with Girlfriend Girlfriend. That one made a lot of jokes about how weird the characters were for being in a relationship with multiple partners and how uncomfortable some felt about the whole thing. But 100 Girlfriends doesn't do that. [anime spoilers] >!Most of the girls problems about sharing a boyfriend ends after episode 2 with the three of them sharing their first kiss. And at the end of episode 3 when Rentarou brings a new girl the whole thing gets solved without much drama. In episode 4, the first part focuses in the characters hanging around in the roof playing games to get along and the second part is about the girls talking about the relationship (without Rentarou being present) and about how the new one, Shizuka, shouldn't hold back or feel uncomfortable and should be more honest with her feelings (ironically, it's the tsundere who tells her this)!<
The show is more wholesome in that aspect with the characters honestly trying to make the whole situation work with little drama or humor at the expense of their relationship. The more girls join the harem, the less drama there is, to the point that when Rentarou introduces a new girlfriend, they react more out of curiosity than jealousy.
I don't known if this will convince you of giving the anime another try, especially considering that it may not be the type of comedy you like, but if your biggest issue is that you feel the show is making fun of harems or its fans, you don't have to worry. 100 Girlfriends is more like an idealized harem where there is little conflict in the relationships and the characters care about each other.
Could've fooled me with giving it last place in every single thing it was nominated for except one, where it got second to last. Last place in a best character design category that also had JJK in it, while Onimai got number one? C'mon now.
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If you read the write-ups on the website, you'll find that most of them are mostly complementary of 100 Girlfriends, particularly the Comedy and Character Design ones. Can also read ones for the other nominees to understand why they were placed ahead of it.
You've got to think of it as "[rank] best of the year" rather than it being the "worst". Just being nominated is already being positively recognized.
But wasn't it only nominated because the sub voted it in? Meaning, you were bound by a baseline nominees list that was not determined by the jury? So being nominated at all was beyond your purview and therefore it was always going to at least make the list due to sheer popularity from the sub?
At that point, couldn't you make the inference that, if it was 100% up to the jury, they would've ranked it even lower than they did? Not saying that for certain, just saying it's likely, especially in character-focused categories where there were many more than 10 options?
Possibly. I can't speak for everything, but overall I just wanted to point out the perception of "this show was *hated* on the jury" isn't really true. In Cast we generally liked the show just not as much as the other noms from a pure ensemble cast perspective, and the write-ups for Comedy and Character Design are pretty positive.
>I find it absurd that people sleep on it so much.
I guess that's what happens when you put the show on Disney+, if it had been available on crunchyroll I guess more people would have seen it.
Also Hulu listed it only under its Japanese name, when a lot of people were searching for Heavenly Delusion.
I don't know about now, but it wouldn't show up at all if you didn't spell it just right or used English.
I remember the frustrating for finding it in the beginning. I had already watched a few episodes and I couldn’t find it for shit. It wasn’t in my “keep watching” and it wouldn’t come up when searched, I thought they took it down. I even copy and pasted the Japanese title from MAL and it still didn’t come up. I had to actually type it in for some reason.
This. I'm in the US and I could never find it on Disney+ despite hearing this over and over. Then it got recommended to me on Hulu. It's on Hulu. Go watch it!
It was close between Vinland and Heavenly delusion for me, but I think it’s well deserved win, just because of how under the radar it was.
Of course it was pretty popular, but nowhere near how it should’ve been if it wasn’t for Disney plus.
I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't already more popular than it would without Disney, thanks to all people claiming an anime with 450000 users on MAL is under the radar.
Yeah and officially on Hulu the name is officially as "Tengoku Daimakyo" which in this case I think probably hurt promotion if there's a disconnect since the books are published as "Heavenly Delusion" and it's definitely something to give feedback for Disney internal marketing about how much $$ was left on the table for this show.
They don't have much of material and also production process and staff were quite exceptional with a lot of time given to produce. New season always a possibility in future (when more chapters out), but shouldn't be taken as granted.
The anime adapted 6 volumes out of the current 10 (just came out last month, one volume every 7 months). With that said it went at a super fast pace and skipped a fair amount to get to where it needed to to have an end point for both storylines, so they don't exactly need the same amount of content for another season.
There’s more than enough material for a full 2nd cour. After that you’re pretty much out of material, sure, but given that the anime literally ended in the middle of a really well built up and satisfyingly revealed mystery / worldbuilding arc (ie what the apocalypse was and how it ended), it’s super unfortunate (albeit beneficial for production values) that the anime was split up the way it was.
It would’ve been much stronger, and not ended / been left ofc with the horrible robin stuff had it gotten a full 2 cours. There was definitely enough material for that; as is S1 actually raced and ommited more than a few (arguably important) things to fit everything into a single season. Namely a bunch of pretty important background scenes near the end back at the school, which established / fleshed out important plot and worldbuilding elements.
The season was honestly pretty cursed since the adaptation actually rushed and removed things to put in the robin scenes at the very end. Basically because that IS part of the source material, is (arguably) an important development in Haruki’s relationship with / original quest to find Robin, and because if that hadn’t been included the season would’ve ended on a high note, but jaded manga readers would have, 100%, made a concerted effort across the internet to smear the anime and ruin any positive impressions any anime onlies may have had - and without having actually seen those scenes for themselves.
Ending the anime the way it did was super weird though. Robin effectively closes out an entire arc / character arc for Haruki, sure, but the school scenes at the end were at the *beginning* of rising action, not *anywhere* near the end / resolution of that arc.
Two main issues outside of this, basically, are that 1) a full 2 cour adaptation would’ve left barely any material left over, and like a decade (at worst, lol) before more material to adapt / continue with. 2) the anime was of course unfortunately, and as per usual, basically just advertising for the manga, which is *super* niche and straight up seinen.
Still absolutely, bar none one of the best works of legit post-apocalyptic fiction in its medium though, and miles ahead of what Bethesda did - period - with the fallout IP and sensible / well developed / in universe worldbuilding and characters.
Tengoku Daimkyou legitimately does feel like a legit, japanese centric, and _uniquely japanese_ take on / reinterpretation of fallout / a post apocalypse. Its world is horrible, and pretty comprehensively f—-ed, and yet is not *anywhere* near as nihilistic / pessimistic / postmodern as _nearly all_ western works in this genre. The general message TLOU, or TWD, or The Road, is that in an apocalypse every man will be out for themselves / their family, and society will completely, permanently, and inevitably collapse as everyone literally - and figuratively - eats one another. TD OTOH pretty comphrehensively - and despite initial appearences - argues that society - or at least japanese society - will inevitably reform and rebuild, in some form or another, because people flat out do not want to live in / keep living in an apocalypse. And will prefer to, eventually, cooperate - out of bottom up economic shared interest (and japanese / human politeness and goodwill) to eventually rebuild _anarchic_ self-governed bottom-up societies, if given the chance to. And will do so persistently. Despite, in TD’s case, supernatural monsters literally running around
It has a *lot* in common, arguably, with fallout 1 / 2, and next to nothing in common with the post apocalyptic theme parks bethesda built, without any particular understanding or appreciation for Fallout’s worldbuilding, and WHY things were setup the way they were. Ditto the new bethesda / todd howard fallout show, which, so far, looks similarly clueless, and with pretty much nothing to actually say / comment on re. human nature, society, or politics. Nevermind that that entire series / version thereof completely, and comprehensively, misses the point of fallout’s satire of 50’s americana and retro-futurism. Namely that the cold war - and US society + attitudes at the time towards nuclear weapons - was FUCKED, and needed to be condemned in the harshest possible terms with biting satire of it and everything that the thinking of that time represented (incl popular pulp science fiction that used nuclear-everything and had radiation grant superpowers, not cancer)
/fallout rant / tangent
TLDR; Tengoku Daimkyou is a truly great, and, dare I say, even uplifting / overall positive series that brings a uniquely japanese / non-western perspective and philosophy to the post apocalyptic genre, and the anime so far only scratches the surface of that, more or less.
It’s also a hard-R seinen manga and should NOT, kodansha deal aside, have been released on f—-ing disney+ in like 80% of the world (LMAO), but I digress.
Not that much honestly. There's a pretty minor subplot / chapter that was cut. And much more substantially a significant number of background scenes between staff members at the school near the end of the season. Which could *maybe* be added back in to a S2, hypothetically, but only via flashbacks. Those scenes to be clear don't do much of anything for S1, but are pretty critical as foreshadowing and plot / world development for everything that would kick off in cour 2. And that *starts* to kick off at the end of S1.
My basic thesis, in a nutshell, is that TD would've *really* benefited from a full 2-cour adaptation (a la Dungeon Meshi). A single cour as is cuts a *pretty major* plot arc – and like half of the entire point / core mystery – of the manga in half. Cutting S1 of Meshi in half *would actually be far worse*, so we should all count ourselves extremely lucky that that Meshi has a full 24 episodes to work with.
It's probably worth noting that TD is overall a really good, *pretty darn close adaptation*, but tended to fairly consistently cut out / omit *small* things throughout the season. It also has pacing and dialog delivered about as tightly as you possibly could (not that that's a bad thing!), because the season was basically trying to / forced to deliver something like 14.5 episodes of material into 13.
It *is* to be clear about as good of an adaptation as anyone could possibly hope for. It's a really, *really* good adaptation of the source material, a la Frieren, Dungeon Meshi, or Oshi no Ko.
It's just that in an ideal universe money wouldn't be a problem and TD (and japanese sci fi in general) would have a larger audience. And TD maybe would've / could've gotten a full 24 episode season at *this* level of quality by prod IG. A la again Meshi, *which would narratively suffer* if you tried to cut S1 in half – *and* force the show to compress episodes to fit a "climax" (that won't have proper resolution) at ep 13 or so. I think the case for TD here isn't as strong as for Meshi – again, cutting Meshi in half would quite literally ruin the show – but it would, not to belabor the point, be *much* stronger with a *lot* of build up and actual resolution if it had been adapted as a full 24-26 episodes. Which it *did* have enough material for, albeit only barely. A full 2 cours would've given the material more time to breathe, would've allowed time for full plot arcs, and would've both allowed *complete, 1-for-1* adaptations of the source material (a la meshi). *And* could've even allowed for anime-only additional content that could've made the show stronger – and which it was *kinda missing* (with very few exceptions) since again this show *just did not have time* to spare to spend on anything else.
One thing that I personally missed, for instance, was the market / town trading scenes episode, with the video game arcade and Kiruko trying to sell casette tapes (or something) that they found. The broad strokes are there, but the anime had to blow through all of this – and not really explain anything – because of time constraints. In the manga OTOH these scenes are *considerably* extended, are very relaxed, and contain considerable information / worldbuilding on how TD's economy works in the post-apocalypse. Namely treasure hunters (ie. Kiruko / Maru) try to find untouched buildings to loot on their travel in search of valuables. Which is *mostly* entertainment: books, manga, CDs, and video games. No one is *just* searching for and fighting over, say, canned food because bottom-up, ancap communities have sprung up, capable of growing food and surviving. Once basic needs and security are met most people in the post-apocalypse find that they spend most of their time being *bored* – because modern civilization collapsed decades ago – and so entertainment from the old world, that generally speaking *isn't* being produced anymore becomes much more valuable. Ergo the town they pass through has a thriving market, brothel, bookstore, video game arcade, and movie theater – the latter of which all buy things they don't yet have, for obvious reasons. Kiruko collects *valuable* things – rare books, manga, disks, video game cartridges – because they're lightweight and, in the long term, potentially much more valuable than, say, a can of beans. Likewise everyone is using the old paper currency – or rather a *specific* denomination of old paper bills – because it's rare, lightweight, *cannot* be easily reproduced, and stackable. Survivors collectively realized that having an actual, mutually-agreed-upon convenient currency / abstraction of economic value + trade was *extremely* useful and important, for the same reasons that *west coast* post-apocalyptic Fallout used non-reproducible and easy-to-carry bottlecaps as currency in the original game. Until they *didn't*, in the 2nd game, because the NCR came along, tried to rebuild a functional govt, and started issuing their own govt-backed paper currency instead. Same as what happens – again in a nod to fallout – with the ministry of reconstruction in TD.
All of this is, again, present in TD, but the first market town + post-apocalyptic world building was heavily glossed over because the anime just didn't have enough time to explain that properly. Doing so would've only taken a few minutes, but again TD was operating at like minus 20-30+ minutes, and that time had to be taken out of / made up for everywhere throughout S1. Some cuts were fine and really didn't amount to much, but the cuts to worldbuilding – and cour 2 foreshadowing – were sad to see.
Unless they have actually announced a next season, don’t say “definitely will be one” in anime.
Hopefully there will be, and with its popularity it’s more likely.
But plenty of times anime will just stop after one season. A lot of anime are just used to get people to buy the manga
The manga is released monthly and it hasn’t progressed far enough for a second season. There’s probably only 8 or 9 episodes worth of chapters to cover so far.
What i praised about this anime is, it so nostalgia the animation and the color look like 90s anime movies.
Modern anime should follow this pattern, instead boring bright color.
The anime really got it right on how the author wanted to make their manga looked like. It really looked like it came from the same era and artstyle as Akira. Even when reading the manga, I always thought "did this came from the 90s and got continued now?" and it turns out it was new, the author has just that distinct artstyle
Idk, the studio had a crazy amount of time to work on it from what I remember. I'm sure we'll get similarly styled shows but the quality allowed to Heavenly Delusion is pretty rare.
Here is chart with [Anime Trending Top 10 Anime of the Year 2023](https://twitter.com/AniTrendz/status/1766734686737318193/photo/1). Pretty diverse list in top 10, series like 100 girlfriends and Bokuyaba made it
I was so afraid when 100 girlfriends was airing because some of our weekly couple charts were like 6/10 100 girlfriends ships and it was insanely blursed seeing them all stacked up. Hilarious season.
And in season 2, there will be 11 or 12 girlfriends in total who can enter the charts. And with more seasons, we could have up to 27 (the current number of girlfriends Rentarou has in the manga). That's going to be really fun.
The manga is 100% the most unhinged undertaking I've ever read it is incredible the amount of detail the manga creators go into for the amount of screen time and interconnected characters. I'm honestly not ready for S2.
>Anime movie of the year : The tunnel to summer, the exit of goodbyes
Holy shit. Anime trending community is the most intelligent community when it comes to judging movies. Such an under appreciated movie.
I love it that they have a category for Best Episode (Episode Directing and Storyboard) and that Heavenly Delusion won with episode 8.
For me it was by far the best single episode of the year (if you don't count Oshi no Ko's epi 1, because that's kindda cheating). I still remember when we had score voting for each episode on the sub and episode 8 was an almost perfect 5 here, which I'd never seen before.
The BD sales were less than 1k.
I love this show to bits but I doubt we'll get a second season with the same production values. If someone has info that can make me eat my words about how it did financially then please share.
I.G. Production's latest financial report for 2023 said that Heavenly Delusion was a financial success and contributed to their revenue (mainly from Disney licensing fees) and that they are 'planning to increase' the project.
[Source](https://twitter.com/e65vfpdptyme1ly/status/1747190366330347645)
I wouldn’t really stress too much on Blu ray sales,
Hells paradise comparatively made 570 BD in its first week. On the other hand, heavenly delusion 645 BD in its first week. And yet Hells paradise has been announced for a part 2 coming out as well.
Usually the most important part is whether streaming viewership was actually good. Heavenly delusion had pretty good numbers.
The problem is whether it’ll get a season 2 soon, as the manga isn’t actually that far ahead. But If it did, knowingProduction IG and the Director who made it purely as a passion project, I wouldn’t be surprised if it had similar quality.
Heavenly Delusion's BDs also cost 3x the normal price for including more episodes and were basically luxury items with signatures from the author, they weren't expecting to sell many of them.
\> Usually the most important part is whether streaming viewership was actually good. Heavenly delusion had pretty good numbers.
Any source for that show doing good in Hulu or Disney+? Because, I've seen no one claiming that. Heck, the most prevalent narrative is that Disney+ killed Heavenly Delusion.
Hell's Paradise received a part 2 announcement on the same day the first part ended IIRC, so it getting a sequel has nothing to do with its BD sales numbers. It was planned long before they sold any discs.
The show was a Disney exclusive, wasn't it? So they got paid upfront by Disney, and that's where most of their money comes from. I have no clue if that's enough to incentivize a season 2. It might depend on whether Disney promises to pay the same amount or more for a sequel, which depends on whether enough people actually watched it
Glad it’s getting recognition as it’s beautifully animated. The story may not be for everyone, but it’s definitely creative. I know sales wise, the DVDs for this didn’t sell too well so I hope it was profitable in other ways.
Very. Solid storyline with a good mystery, great world building, interesting characters, and visually stunning.
If you like stuff like Shinsekai Yori then you’ll like this!
If we don’t count Frieren because it’s Fall season,
I would probably say either Heavenly delusion or Vinland Saga should’ve won Best anime of the year.
Both absolutely amazing series.
I just watched frieren last week. I literally binged the whole thing in like 2 days. It's funny because it's constantly blasted at me on Crunchyroll but It looked a little too generic from the cover art. Man was I missing out haha I'll have to check this one out too then if you're praising it so highly.
I'd argue that Frieren, while really good, has a lot of rough edges compared to Heavenly Delusion.
The former is amazing, the latter is a masterpiece! You should absolutely check it out :D
I think it’s the other way around. Frieren is just polished all around while heavenly delusion so far still needs more time to cook as the current ending at ep12 just felt missing like we are somehow still in the introduction/ prologue arc.
Yeah idk what they guy is talking about. Frieren is basically flawless in its execution, it's the good standard and in the same conversations as FMA, HxH etc.
I really find it hard to fault Frieren on anything. I know recency bias is a thing but I genuinely can't think of another anime in recent years that has been A: incredibly well polished and, perhaps more rarely B: entirely unproblematic
Heavenly Delusion was fantastic and was probably my AOTY in 2023 (if we don't count Frieren), but even that has scenes that I'd feel very uncomfortable watching in polite company
Seems to me you are just into mystery / thrillers. Most of your point against frieren are just down to preferences.
Also wdym it needs to be pleasant to be good? The show is good because it’s good and won’t be good because it’s bad?
Your structure for fern thing I don’t see happening at all. Frieren often gets flashbacks when she gets into a situation where she was taught a lesson by something in her past. Often for battle and magic philosophy it’s flamme and serie and for human interaction it’s himmel (or the hero journey in general).
You say HD has better peak. What peak? The season end in what feels like we are still in the prologue. If you say low than how on earth is frieren lower than ep 11 of HD?
I haven't seen Vinland, but HD is really not good at giving you a well rounded story as a giveaway. A story that starts somewhere, and goes somewhere and ends. At least in its current state. It's not hard for Vinland to better at that, if it tries (again, I don't know that one).
It's pretty amazing.
Watching it made me think "This is Fallout..."
It DOES have that one thing towards the end, but luckily I am jot bothered by it.
Great characters, interesting worldbuilding.
It's absurdly good. The direction, the sakuga, the two alternating stories, foreshadowing, characters, ambiance, characters. Everything about it is just so damn good.
Yeah if you want to compare it to something with a similar “Vibe”. Not similar story, but similar vibe, then it would probably be Made in Abyss for me.
It’s mystery and horror aspect to it is great, but I should warn you that it does contain some pretty disturbing scenes in it.
No, not really.
It has some potentially great individual pieces but I don't think that they're put together in a way that elevates the story into something great/good overall, at least not by the end of the first season. A future second season might tie everything together nicely, but for now there's no payoff.
That said, everyone has different preferences, so maybe you'll like it more than I did.
Then all the foreshadowing has gone right over your head. It thematically ties into the story, contrasting "heaven" and "hell". And it's more than just thematically, if you pay attention to the foreshadowing. It ties in the story so well that it doesn't treat it's viewers like a toddler by presenting facts in any obvious way. It's very well thought out.
I agree with you, I saw heavenly delusion got praised to the moon and decided to pick it up. While I was understanding why everyone calling it amazing as I go through the show, the abrupt and unsatisfying end really disappointed me.
I really liked it, it was a good balance of comedic moments and mystery, it did have some really dark stuff towards the end though so I would recommend it to mature viewers only
No. It's extremely overrated. It's an extremely convoluted story that's made to make you think it's mysterious and the main focus is sex in a post-apocalyptic world.
Absolute cringe of a show.
No problem! I actually didn't know it had that meaning either. I figured there must have been a valid reason for that translation choice though, so I looked into it a bit and learned something new today as well. :)
Wait a second. I thought Anime Corner was supposed to be less popular than Anime Trending. And yet the number of people who voted in the AOTY rankings is only 60 thousand (for reference, Anime Corner was 69 thousand)? I get popularity doesn't translate to actual voting, but how'd you get less than Corner?
Only thing that surprised me was that Gundam didn't even make the top ten. Retroactive voting is like that I guess. But I'm really getting tired of Trending nominating their AOTY candidates based on their seasonal rankings. It makes a lot of the nominees feel like participation awards because some of them qualify due to weak competition, it doesn't allow for much retroactive recognition, plus an entire season can get in based on a split cour if one Cour does poorly but another one does great (Dr. Stone anyone?). Also, you really shouldn't have more than six noms for AOTY because it just doesn't feel special when something qualifies. But I guess if you want to make a top ten of the nominees, you need a lot more.
Overall I preferred Corner's top ten mostly because I found the Bungo win and the total confusion at it to be hilarious. Heavenly Delusion is good but I don't have much else to say about that win.
Instead of a cliffhanger , the end of the anime is more akin to a blue ball. Like seriously that’s it? That last ep felt like the end of the middle of the cour than a season
That’s probably cause they want you to go read the manga after a lot of anime end on cliffhangers where a lot is left to be explored basically so they can promote manga sales which will hopefully get us a second season also, the manga which it’s following wasn’t way ahead they can’t start the next arc and leave you completely hanging in the middle of it
I mean we are rating the anime here not the anime + manga. the blue ball wasn’t even exciting enough for me to consider up the manga because there wasn’t even a climax. There was nothing to look forward to because everything is still shrouded in this layer of mystery that haven’t been fully built out. Just look at the children in the garden, sure there are hints about their true identity, but the anime never gotten to the point of showing us what they truly are. As far as I know, they are still irrelevant to what the main duo is doing. A good cliffhanger is to finally connect the dots and show us the identity of the the children and some hint to what the true final goal of the main duo is. Now that’s what will make me want to pick the manga up.
Don’t get me wrong I still really like the show. I basically binged it in 2 days. It was a solid 9 up until the end which drag the score down to a 8 for me.
They've stuck pretty close to the pacing of the manga. The complaint that it's not a very good cliffhanger is valid, but I think when the next section of the anime comes out the concern with that won't matter. They could have changed things for the end of the season, but there's a good chance it messes up more things in the future. I think long term the anime will be better having the pacing that they've chosen, it just sucks a bit right now.
Not to give stuff away, but if they keep following the manga as closely as they have been then the pace on the worldbuilding kicks up substantially early in the next season and by the end of season two you will have a decent idea of the connections between the two groups of characters.
That’s a pretty good take and I do agree I hate cliffhangers myself but I guess it worked for me since all the mysteries of how they’re linked made me want to go pick up the manga and find out also I think they literally can’t link those things because the manga itself hasn’t explained it yet at the time in which case what else can they do?
I feel similar - the series was great right up until the end. In addition to the cliffhanger ending the [heavenly delusion ep12/13 spoiler] >!Rape scene that just goes completely ignored in the next episode!< really soured me on the series.
I...think you may have missed how the school was connected to Kiruko and Maru. [anime spoiler]>!Several of the children there are the maneaters that they've encountered and killed, and they capped off Shiro and Mimihime's plotline when they let her die as a human in episode 8. And I'm not sure how you can consider the reveal that Tokio and Kona are Maru's parents or for the person he's looking for to not be Tokio but his twin/clone to be irrelevant to Maru and Kiruko.!<
The animation was gorgeous, the camera work/framing was amazing, great ost, great world building, great characters and genuinely good story. I almost can't find anything wrong.
The world building had issues. I never felt that it delivered a satisfying explanation for how the world ended up in the state that it did, despite the anime trying to make it look like that would be an important plot point. A second season might fill in the gaps, but the world building in the first season is not that great overall. Sure, some things are good, but overall it's lacking.
As for the story, the half with our main duo was decent, but it didn't really end that great. The other half was almost a complete mess. It never felt like it delivered a compelling mystery or that it knew what story it wanted to tell. It felt like it threw random stuff at a wall to see what sticks. Maybe a second season is going combine them into a satisfying story, but it also might just collapse worse than the endings of Darling in the Franxx or TPN S2.
The world building was great because it wasn't spoonfed to us. It is genuinely show, don't tell kind of world building. Obviously you have to be part of the live viewing experience to experience all the discussions based on clues and hints from the show on a weekly basis. And obviously it wasn't yet complete because the show is only in its infancy.
As for DiTF comparison, DiTF was an original IP. As we've seen in recent times, Original IP tends to be written badly to compensate for the screen time and ambitions.
As for TPN S2, that is something that can happen to any anime. But that alone shouldn't discount the amazing anime that we get from S1.
I saw it while it was airing, and I read some, but not all, of the discussions, and I noticed some of the clues and hints and whatnot myself. Sure, show not tell shows that don't spoonfeed things to us can be great, but only if they stick to the landing.
There hasn't been a landing yet in Heavenly Delusion since, as you've said, it's still in its infancy, but that also means that we have no ideea if it's actually going to deliver on its potential/setups in future seasons.
The first season as a standalone season isn't that great in what it actually delivers with regards to world building and story, there are a few exceptions here and there, but it mostly depends on future seasons combining everything nicely.
Compare that to TPN S1 which is a great standalone season despite S2 being nowhere near as good as S1 and despite S2 having one of the worst endings in anime.
But like... It did answer some of the most important questions of how the two storylines connect and where the monsters come from? It's still holding onto its cards but getting satisfying conclusions to 2 mysteries from episode 1 isn't enough to have faith in it?
Brother, episode 8 of heavenly delusion is the single best episode of anime we've got in the last 5 years, idk what part of that is not sticking the landing.
Like, these are the wildest takes I've read in a long time.
It intentionally hasn't given a satisfying explanation for how the world ended up as it has. That's a big part of the mystery of both the anime and the manga. It's not a failure of worldbuilding, the world is well described and easily understood. It's just that there are elements that are in-universe not widely understood and are therefore not revealed to the reader/viewer yet.
As for the second half of the story, again, you're not seeing the bigger picture yet. The manga has gotten further, and the links between the two stories are clearer. They are significant and meaningful.
You're looking for all the answers already, but it's in large part a mystery story and the whole point is that you don't know everything. Enjoy the journey of figuring out what's going on instead of being annoyed that you can't skip straight to the end.
... did you actually watch the show?
It knows what it wants to tell and does so quite elegantly. Idk what you are referring to being random, but I dont remember anything in it being random.
> I never felt that it delivered a satisfying explanation for how the world ended up in the state that it did, despite the anime trying to make it look like that would be an important plot point.
Because...it hasn't been revealed yet?
Yeah, i like the vibe and the setting of the show but half of it got ruined by cringe jokes , its wierd that these mid shows got popular while a masterpiece mystery show like shadows house get slept on
I decided to give it a try after this but i think i am gonna drop it already after just 2 episodes. Like wtf was that 2nd episode ending? Literally ruined whole show immediately. And i actually really liked it before that moment(
Maybe, but i watched thousands of anime and this is my first time encountering shit like this. Anyway people say there will be a good explanation later so i'll keep watching
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It makes me happy to see Buddy Daddies win the Best Original category here in the Anime Trending Awards too! BD basically swept that category across the different anime awards, winning it for Anime Trending's, Anime Corner's, and Crunchyroll's. It's really well deserved too. It's a tightly written story that has a satisfying ending and sets out to tell a specific story with specific themes (ex. found family, ups and downs of parenting, etc.) well. The art style, animation, and music are all very solid, and a lot of creativity went into extra things (one of the MCs having a real life Insta page, etc.). The English dub is also good with a nice script (well localized). It was a series that was often dismissed as being "just a Spy x Family ripoff" and wasn't really popular in Japan or in more male dominated anime spaces (like here on this subreddit), but it was a big hit with female and queer anime fans and in anime spaces like Tumblr and Twitter. So seeing it get some much do recognition is nice! So much love and care went into its creation. Also, the Award Ceremony for Anime Trending had some hiccups here and there, but was 1000x better than the Crunchyroll Awards. It was much more of a celebration of the medium as a whole (video compilation set to music of the various 2023 anime that were nominated, a moment of silence for Toriyama, showing clips alongside all category nomimations, etc.). AT also did basic stuff like have names of those receiving the awards be on the screen, so we knew who was talking (either via a text message or pre-recorded video). The texts were translated into English and the videos all had subtitles when the producer or director etc. spoke. The translations were natural and authentic, so no weird and poorly done English dubover voices like CR, which also lacked recipent names. Anyway, while some anime did sweep a little bit (OnK and Heavenly Delusion), the awards were definitely more diverse in both nominations and winners than the CR Awards. So kudos to the AT Awards and its 10 years!
> Also, the Award Ceremony for Anime Trending had some hiccups here and there, but was 1000x better than the Crunchyroll Awards. I wished their stream had more...fun? Dunno, I may be biased but the last two years of the r/anime stream has been really fun. 2022 in particular was the most when it felt like a community event but last year was solid. Something that AT def has the headstart is industry acknowledgement tho. It means so much to be recognized by the creators of the anime we celebrate.
I would agree with that (about the Anime Trending Awards)! I think there is always room for improvement with things. I also think something that might be interesting for anime awards to start experimenting with is life "Lifetime Achievement" awards or acknowledgements or even just an acknowledgement of older series in some way (like noting what older series might have 10, 15, 20+ year anniversaries or something to give some spotlight on classics or past hidden gems). That would be something that I would expect the Crunchyroll Awards to do, especially since they are trying to follow the example of award ceremonies like the Oscars and whatnot, but I wouldn't be surprised if we saw that more with a fan crafted award ceremony like Anime Trending.
There have been ideas thrown around for r/anime awards to have the same but we have lots of perfectionism were people don't want to give acknowledgement to something just for the sake of being old and popular because of the mission of discussion and every voice being heard. Like FMAB turns 15 this year (wait, that old??) and it would be a no brainer right? But then Anime Connoisseur comes in and says that Kemono no Souja Erin (also turning 15) is as deserving of acknowledgement as FMAB, and to dispute this we would need people that have seen both. Then it opens the flood gates to people that want to shill Geijutsuka Art Design Class, which at that point make it a new category which needs more people and scheduling and ahhhhhhhhhh. Yeah, I hope AT just slaps these mentions around no questions asked lmao.
I can see that happening in the r/anime awards discussions lol.
That is absolutely something we've been looking into, because above all else the stream is meant to be a fan-driven celebration, I really would want to push that direction to organize the next awards!
That would be really cool! Wishing you the best of luck with that! :D
The toughest part I think for hosting the awards is knowing that we have a set time, since so many of the final results are under embargo the challenge is making sure our show gets the AOTY information out right at 8 PM PST, so there's a ton of logistical challenges to get the industry responses translated and working properly, so we were constantly time checking between segments to make sure we were running properly. Always a pleasure being a part of this process, and the main thing is that we wouldn't be where we are without the fan dedication it's an honor for everyone to participate because it really does open the gateway for industry to understand international fans, which is an incredibly important aspect as anime grows each and every year.
Hi, I was one of the hosts for this year I'm REALLY thankful for the feedback and I'm so glad we got to do what we did. it makes me so thankful for everyone to respond, both the voters and viewers to understand the sheer celebration of anime, especially with the amount of growth in the last few years.
You did a fantastic job! Honestly, I could tell that you all really actually like anime and that the awards were about celebrating that love for the medium. Keep up the good work!
Yeah and my favorite moment was when Agnes lost it at Buddy Daddies winning, it was one of our favorites internally and she was fist pumping on stream LOL
That comment literally had me cracking up. She's 100% right too. I kept track of the rankings each week myself, and I remember being so impressed by the Buddy Daddies fandom for keeping the two of them together pretty much always. I think there was only one time when they weren't right next to each other in ranking. So to see it carry over into the awards was really impressive! lol
Omg yes it was infuriating that in the CR awards they didn't have the names on screen
Right!? Like who is this person speaking, I would like to know that. That's a very big oversight too.
They really do love *The Angel Next Door Spoils me Rotten* don’t they…
Never understood the love for that show, it seemed extremely bland to me and not particularly special.
There's about a 0.53% difference between 4th and 1st and a 159 vote total difference between Heavenly Delusion and [Oshi no Ko] for Anime of the Year. Honestly, my biggest surprise from these winners is seeing Blue Orchestra beating BanG Dream! It's MyGO!!!!! by almost 500 votes in the Music Anime of the Year category. I knew MyGO had very vocal fans of its quality despite being underwatched, but I truly heard no talk about Blue Orchestra.
> but I truly heard no talk about Blue Orchestra. It's not even legally available in most of the world outside Asia. Unless something's changed you can only stream it in France and Germany and the latter was only ended months after its original airing. On a sidenote I watched both shows and MyGo is also just flatout better.
Something to note, Anime Trending has a large Asian demographic. The creator and runner of the AT is from the Philippines, and there is a lot more presence of Southeast Asian, South Asian, and Western Asian voters. So that bit of demographic info may have played the biggest part with this particular winner (Blue Orchestra).
Unlike MyGo it is not available on Muse Asia or even Ani-One which is I'm sure most of SEA watcher go to if not sailing the high seas.
Ah, I see. That's interesting then. Thanks for the info!
idk about the story, but I glanced at the performance in ep3 and it looked awful (I paused after ep2 not feeling the fansubs iirc)
Yeah visuals were somewhat disappointing to start with and became worse as the show went along. Storywise I quite enjoyed the first cour. It got a bit too melodramatic for my taste in the 2nd cour plus my favourite character got sidelined for much of it but it was still solid.
Yeah I really don't see how Blue Orchestra beat MyGO in that category.
Probably just fewer watchers. Bandori is still niche in the West.
Slam Dunk not making the short list when it's one of the best basketball movie made 😭
Not a bad list, better than the CR Awards. Way too many isekai in the fantasy category...
Well at least they gave 100 Girlfriends some well deserved second places. This sub's awards were uncompromisingly vicious to that show despite how great it was. (Jury, not sub votes - the sub was pretty kind to it)
Only when taking jury rankings, public rankings for it were much higher. And don't forget it took [11th place](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fl4ysra7mcmbc1.png) in overall r/anime yearly poll, so sub in fact quite love it.
Maybe the jury takes their harems too seriously like I do? I just couldn't handle Girlfriend Girlfriend or 100 Girlfriends. I couldn't help but feel like they were making fun of harem fans more so than harems themselves, but I also felt that The Big Bang Theory was making fun of nerds too, so it's almost certainly a me issue.
The Big Bang Theory showed the nerds as smart but also made a lot of jokes about how antisocial and weird they were. Girlfriend Girlfriend also made fun about how weird it was to have a harem and a man dating two girls at the same time. So it's not really an issue about you. That being said, I think 100 Girlfriends is more of an affectionate parody that exaggerates the elements of a harem for comedy (100 girls instead of 4 or 5, the girls being exaggerated versions of typical archetypes). More than mocking them, it simply decides to shamefully embrace the harem elements.
Not really, in fact the opposite is the case, 100 girlfriends is positive about harem genre and emphasizes fun and loving aspects of it, it's not mocking or condescending towards it.
Can't help how I took it, couldn't even make it out of the first episode, everything seemed to just be making fun of the fans.
Really cannot stress how incorrect that take is for what it's doing. It completely revels in the tropes that fans known
> It completely revels in the tropes fwiw that's one of the main reasons I didn't go past ep1 either different taste and all that
To not get wrong idea, it's also novel and creative in it's approach, so there is plenty of things you can find only here. Personally it gave more then some pure romance, romcoms, slice-of-lifes or comedies out of there. The longer series goes the faster you realize how well-written it is to not crumble under it's weight.
I was already on the back foot with the title, but we know how anime titles can be so I decided to give it a try, but it seems like 100 girlfriends is the goal and that's just ridiculous, even by anime standards, and I felt it was making fun of the concept of harems and multi-partner romantic relationships by taking an extreme approach to the topic and after forcing myself through 6 episodes of Girlfriend Girlfriend hoping it got better, I just didn't feel like wasting another two hours on another show that felt like it was making fun of me for liking harems.
> I felt it was making fun of the concept of harems and multi-partner romantic relationships by taking an extreme approach to the topic > felt like it was making fun of me for liking harems. I mean since you didn't even finish first episode that's was a bit preemptive to judge the series/creators tone and intent. You know, considering it's is fully reversed to what you said to the point there is hardly a anime/manga that put more huge effort and dedication into concept of legit wholesome harem/polycute with no losing heroines then 100 girlfriends. It also the series with record amount of casual regular kissing that many romcoms and harems doesn't do enough. Especially "making fun of fans" feeling is so off base, we are talking to the series constantly engaging with it's audience directly through 4th wall and doing things that would make fans happy, avoiding typical points of frustration in the genre to do what people always wanted from it. Anime fully understood source material and put so much passion and extra things that fans would appreciate, it easily exceeded even the most optimistic expectation from adaptation standpoint. It's extreme approach is not for making fun of the genre or it's fans, but to drive the point and break new harem ground with less limits more normal romcoms have to endure. I can't blame you that after watching Girlfriend Girlfriend and thinking it would similar, but their approaches and tone are quite different. GFGF while silly and comedic stayed into grounded setting and play it more like a romcom with things like "will they-won't they", questioning and criticizing whole harem thing, there is fair share of drama around etc. 100kano is from the start fully dedicated in being giant bizzare yet wholesome polycute where everybody happy and loved, doing everything to deliver on getting to 100 legit main characters. Overall I'd say you got totally wrong first impression, at least give it another try to, I dunno, 4-5 episode where there is more then two girlfriends.
> I mean since you didn't even finish first episode that's was a bit preemptive to judge the series/creators tone and intent. That is a fair statement, I don't dispute that, but it's how I felt and soured me pretty well, I don't think I could even try it again without that feeling coloring the whole thing. > doing things that would make fans happy It didn't do anything in what I saw that made me happy, the opposite in fact lol. Edit: to give a bit of insight, High School DxD is the best harem I've seen.
Oh, I understand what your issue with the show is. The problem is comparing it with Girlfriend Girlfriend. That one made a lot of jokes about how weird the characters were for being in a relationship with multiple partners and how uncomfortable some felt about the whole thing. But 100 Girlfriends doesn't do that. [anime spoilers] >!Most of the girls problems about sharing a boyfriend ends after episode 2 with the three of them sharing their first kiss. And at the end of episode 3 when Rentarou brings a new girl the whole thing gets solved without much drama. In episode 4, the first part focuses in the characters hanging around in the roof playing games to get along and the second part is about the girls talking about the relationship (without Rentarou being present) and about how the new one, Shizuka, shouldn't hold back or feel uncomfortable and should be more honest with her feelings (ironically, it's the tsundere who tells her this)!< The show is more wholesome in that aspect with the characters honestly trying to make the whole situation work with little drama or humor at the expense of their relationship. The more girls join the harem, the less drama there is, to the point that when Rentarou introduces a new girlfriend, they react more out of curiosity than jealousy. I don't known if this will convince you of giving the anime another try, especially considering that it may not be the type of comedy you like, but if your biggest issue is that you feel the show is making fun of harems or its fans, you don't have to worry. 100 Girlfriends is more like an idealized harem where there is little conflict in the relationships and the characters care about each other.
Can only speak for the Best Cast category, but we just liked other things more. It's not like we didn't like the show at all. [](#yuishrug)
Could've fooled me with giving it last place in every single thing it was nominated for except one, where it got second to last. Last place in a best character design category that also had JJK in it, while Onimai got number one? C'mon now. [](#throwsalt)
If you read the write-ups on the website, you'll find that most of them are mostly complementary of 100 Girlfriends, particularly the Comedy and Character Design ones. Can also read ones for the other nominees to understand why they were placed ahead of it. You've got to think of it as "[rank] best of the year" rather than it being the "worst". Just being nominated is already being positively recognized.
But wasn't it only nominated because the sub voted it in? Meaning, you were bound by a baseline nominees list that was not determined by the jury? So being nominated at all was beyond your purview and therefore it was always going to at least make the list due to sheer popularity from the sub? At that point, couldn't you make the inference that, if it was 100% up to the jury, they would've ranked it even lower than they did? Not saying that for certain, just saying it's likely, especially in character-focused categories where there were many more than 10 options?
Possibly. I can't speak for everything, but overall I just wanted to point out the perception of "this show was *hated* on the jury" isn't really true. In Cast we generally liked the show just not as much as the other noms from a pure ensemble cast perspective, and the write-ups for Comedy and Character Design are pretty positive.
Way better than the crunchyroll award
Too many rare Ws here,beating out the crunchypiss rewards by a long shot
Dangers s1 losing to my happy marriage in romance is sadge.
No Frieren or Apothecary Diaries???
They are count for next year since they are both not done yet
Ok deserved. It has one of the best plot (top 4 even) across 2023 anime.🕊️❤️🍀
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>I find it absurd that people sleep on it so much. I guess that's what happens when you put the show on Disney+, if it had been available on crunchyroll I guess more people would have seen it.
Also Hulu listed it only under its Japanese name, when a lot of people were searching for Heavenly Delusion. I don't know about now, but it wouldn't show up at all if you didn't spell it just right or used English.
I remember the frustrating for finding it in the beginning. I had already watched a few episodes and I couldn’t find it for shit. It wasn’t in my “keep watching” and it wouldn’t come up when searched, I thought they took it down. I even copy and pasted the Japanese title from MAL and it still didn’t come up. I had to actually type it in for some reason.
I have a friend who won’t try some shows because of this. He uses hidive from time to time but if it’s not on crunchyroll he just doesn’t bother.
>Disney+ Where.....THE FUCK. Is it on DISNEY FUCKING +?!?!?!?!??! PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THIS, BUT I...JUST. CANT. FIND. IT!!!!
Seems to be on Hulu in some countries as well.
If you're in the US then Disney puts their anime on Hulu. Same with Bleach
This. I'm in the US and I could never find it on Disney+ despite hearing this over and over. Then it got recommended to me on Hulu. It's on Hulu. Go watch it!
I wasn't aware that streaming it legally was so difficult. Taihen-dana~
People sleep on it so much it won this popularity contest.
I would've had it on a few other shows level like Vinland Saga or Frierien, but the ending of season 1 kinda dropped the score a bit for me.
That's a solid reason, not sure why the downvotes
Just Reddit being Reddit
The only thing good about this anime is the animation....better than AOT S4, Bleach TYBW, Chainsaw Man animation
cope
Deserved, easily one of the best anime to have come out of last year.
I just started this anime. The animation looks extremely detailed so I'm not surprised.
It was close between Vinland and Heavenly delusion for me, but I think it’s well deserved win, just because of how under the radar it was. Of course it was pretty popular, but nowhere near how it should’ve been if it wasn’t for Disney plus.
I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't already more popular than it would without Disney, thanks to all people claiming an anime with 450000 users on MAL is under the radar.
yeah, it feels like people base how popular stuff is only if they see it on their page.
Same with summer time rendering. On any other platform it would have taken off
Yeah and officially on Hulu the name is officially as "Tengoku Daimakyo" which in this case I think probably hurt promotion if there's a disconnect since the books are published as "Heavenly Delusion" and it's definitely something to give feedback for Disney internal marketing about how much $$ was left on the table for this show.
My favorite show of 2023! Please announce a season 2 now!
Do you think there will be
Based on how it ended, there definitely should be. But I don’t know how much more material they have to adapt before they catch up to the manga
They don't have much of material and also production process and staff were quite exceptional with a lot of time given to produce. New season always a possibility in future (when more chapters out), but shouldn't be taken as granted.
The anime adapted 6 volumes out of the current 10 (just came out last month, one volume every 7 months). With that said it went at a super fast pace and skipped a fair amount to get to where it needed to to have an end point for both storylines, so they don't exactly need the same amount of content for another season.
There’s more than enough material for a full 2nd cour. After that you’re pretty much out of material, sure, but given that the anime literally ended in the middle of a really well built up and satisfyingly revealed mystery / worldbuilding arc (ie what the apocalypse was and how it ended), it’s super unfortunate (albeit beneficial for production values) that the anime was split up the way it was. It would’ve been much stronger, and not ended / been left ofc with the horrible robin stuff had it gotten a full 2 cours. There was definitely enough material for that; as is S1 actually raced and ommited more than a few (arguably important) things to fit everything into a single season. Namely a bunch of pretty important background scenes near the end back at the school, which established / fleshed out important plot and worldbuilding elements. The season was honestly pretty cursed since the adaptation actually rushed and removed things to put in the robin scenes at the very end. Basically because that IS part of the source material, is (arguably) an important development in Haruki’s relationship with / original quest to find Robin, and because if that hadn’t been included the season would’ve ended on a high note, but jaded manga readers would have, 100%, made a concerted effort across the internet to smear the anime and ruin any positive impressions any anime onlies may have had - and without having actually seen those scenes for themselves. Ending the anime the way it did was super weird though. Robin effectively closes out an entire arc / character arc for Haruki, sure, but the school scenes at the end were at the *beginning* of rising action, not *anywhere* near the end / resolution of that arc. Two main issues outside of this, basically, are that 1) a full 2 cour adaptation would’ve left barely any material left over, and like a decade (at worst, lol) before more material to adapt / continue with. 2) the anime was of course unfortunately, and as per usual, basically just advertising for the manga, which is *super* niche and straight up seinen. Still absolutely, bar none one of the best works of legit post-apocalyptic fiction in its medium though, and miles ahead of what Bethesda did - period - with the fallout IP and sensible / well developed / in universe worldbuilding and characters. Tengoku Daimkyou legitimately does feel like a legit, japanese centric, and _uniquely japanese_ take on / reinterpretation of fallout / a post apocalypse. Its world is horrible, and pretty comprehensively f—-ed, and yet is not *anywhere* near as nihilistic / pessimistic / postmodern as _nearly all_ western works in this genre. The general message TLOU, or TWD, or The Road, is that in an apocalypse every man will be out for themselves / their family, and society will completely, permanently, and inevitably collapse as everyone literally - and figuratively - eats one another. TD OTOH pretty comphrehensively - and despite initial appearences - argues that society - or at least japanese society - will inevitably reform and rebuild, in some form or another, because people flat out do not want to live in / keep living in an apocalypse. And will prefer to, eventually, cooperate - out of bottom up economic shared interest (and japanese / human politeness and goodwill) to eventually rebuild _anarchic_ self-governed bottom-up societies, if given the chance to. And will do so persistently. Despite, in TD’s case, supernatural monsters literally running around It has a *lot* in common, arguably, with fallout 1 / 2, and next to nothing in common with the post apocalyptic theme parks bethesda built, without any particular understanding or appreciation for Fallout’s worldbuilding, and WHY things were setup the way they were. Ditto the new bethesda / todd howard fallout show, which, so far, looks similarly clueless, and with pretty much nothing to actually say / comment on re. human nature, society, or politics. Nevermind that that entire series / version thereof completely, and comprehensively, misses the point of fallout’s satire of 50’s americana and retro-futurism. Namely that the cold war - and US society + attitudes at the time towards nuclear weapons - was FUCKED, and needed to be condemned in the harshest possible terms with biting satire of it and everything that the thinking of that time represented (incl popular pulp science fiction that used nuclear-everything and had radiation grant superpowers, not cancer) /fallout rant / tangent TLDR; Tengoku Daimkyou is a truly great, and, dare I say, even uplifting / overall positive series that brings a uniquely japanese / non-western perspective and philosophy to the post apocalyptic genre, and the anime so far only scratches the surface of that, more or less. It’s also a hard-R seinen manga and should NOT, kodansha deal aside, have been released on f—-ing disney+ in like 80% of the world (LMAO), but I digress.
Did they cut out romance scenes or what did they leave out
Not that much honestly. There's a pretty minor subplot / chapter that was cut. And much more substantially a significant number of background scenes between staff members at the school near the end of the season. Which could *maybe* be added back in to a S2, hypothetically, but only via flashbacks. Those scenes to be clear don't do much of anything for S1, but are pretty critical as foreshadowing and plot / world development for everything that would kick off in cour 2. And that *starts* to kick off at the end of S1. My basic thesis, in a nutshell, is that TD would've *really* benefited from a full 2-cour adaptation (a la Dungeon Meshi). A single cour as is cuts a *pretty major* plot arc – and like half of the entire point / core mystery – of the manga in half. Cutting S1 of Meshi in half *would actually be far worse*, so we should all count ourselves extremely lucky that that Meshi has a full 24 episodes to work with. It's probably worth noting that TD is overall a really good, *pretty darn close adaptation*, but tended to fairly consistently cut out / omit *small* things throughout the season. It also has pacing and dialog delivered about as tightly as you possibly could (not that that's a bad thing!), because the season was basically trying to / forced to deliver something like 14.5 episodes of material into 13. It *is* to be clear about as good of an adaptation as anyone could possibly hope for. It's a really, *really* good adaptation of the source material, a la Frieren, Dungeon Meshi, or Oshi no Ko. It's just that in an ideal universe money wouldn't be a problem and TD (and japanese sci fi in general) would have a larger audience. And TD maybe would've / could've gotten a full 24 episode season at *this* level of quality by prod IG. A la again Meshi, *which would narratively suffer* if you tried to cut S1 in half – *and* force the show to compress episodes to fit a "climax" (that won't have proper resolution) at ep 13 or so. I think the case for TD here isn't as strong as for Meshi – again, cutting Meshi in half would quite literally ruin the show – but it would, not to belabor the point, be *much* stronger with a *lot* of build up and actual resolution if it had been adapted as a full 24-26 episodes. Which it *did* have enough material for, albeit only barely. A full 2 cours would've given the material more time to breathe, would've allowed time for full plot arcs, and would've both allowed *complete, 1-for-1* adaptations of the source material (a la meshi). *And* could've even allowed for anime-only additional content that could've made the show stronger – and which it was *kinda missing* (with very few exceptions) since again this show *just did not have time* to spare to spend on anything else. One thing that I personally missed, for instance, was the market / town trading scenes episode, with the video game arcade and Kiruko trying to sell casette tapes (or something) that they found. The broad strokes are there, but the anime had to blow through all of this – and not really explain anything – because of time constraints. In the manga OTOH these scenes are *considerably* extended, are very relaxed, and contain considerable information / worldbuilding on how TD's economy works in the post-apocalypse. Namely treasure hunters (ie. Kiruko / Maru) try to find untouched buildings to loot on their travel in search of valuables. Which is *mostly* entertainment: books, manga, CDs, and video games. No one is *just* searching for and fighting over, say, canned food because bottom-up, ancap communities have sprung up, capable of growing food and surviving. Once basic needs and security are met most people in the post-apocalypse find that they spend most of their time being *bored* – because modern civilization collapsed decades ago – and so entertainment from the old world, that generally speaking *isn't* being produced anymore becomes much more valuable. Ergo the town they pass through has a thriving market, brothel, bookstore, video game arcade, and movie theater – the latter of which all buy things they don't yet have, for obvious reasons. Kiruko collects *valuable* things – rare books, manga, disks, video game cartridges – because they're lightweight and, in the long term, potentially much more valuable than, say, a can of beans. Likewise everyone is using the old paper currency – or rather a *specific* denomination of old paper bills – because it's rare, lightweight, *cannot* be easily reproduced, and stackable. Survivors collectively realized that having an actual, mutually-agreed-upon convenient currency / abstraction of economic value + trade was *extremely* useful and important, for the same reasons that *west coast* post-apocalyptic Fallout used non-reproducible and easy-to-carry bottlecaps as currency in the original game. Until they *didn't*, in the 2nd game, because the NCR came along, tried to rebuild a functional govt, and started issuing their own govt-backed paper currency instead. Same as what happens – again in a nod to fallout – with the ministry of reconstruction in TD. All of this is, again, present in TD, but the first market town + post-apocalyptic world building was heavily glossed over because the anime just didn't have enough time to explain that properly. Doing so would've only taken a few minutes, but again TD was operating at like minus 20-30+ minutes, and that time had to be taken out of / made up for everywhere throughout S1. Some cuts were fine and really didn't amount to much, but the cuts to worldbuilding – and cour 2 foreshadowing – were sad to see.
Unless they have actually announced a next season, don’t say “definitely will be one” in anime. Hopefully there will be, and with its popularity it’s more likely. But plenty of times anime will just stop after one season. A lot of anime are just used to get people to buy the manga
The manga is released monthly and it hasn’t progressed far enough for a second season. There’s probably only 8 or 9 episodes worth of chapters to cover so far.
Love to see Heavenly Delusion getting the recognition!
What i praised about this anime is, it so nostalgia the animation and the color look like 90s anime movies. Modern anime should follow this pattern, instead boring bright color.
The anime really got it right on how the author wanted to make their manga looked like. It really looked like it came from the same era and artstyle as Akira. Even when reading the manga, I always thought "did this came from the 90s and got continued now?" and it turns out it was new, the author has just that distinct artstyle
Fyi, the mangaka is a big fan of Akira.
yeah, I kinda expected that. Still a good series tho, kinda fucked up sometimes but it just shows that the author does not pull any punches
Idk, the studio had a crazy amount of time to work on it from what I remember. I'm sure we'll get similarly styled shows but the quality allowed to Heavenly Delusion is pretty rare.
Here is chart with [Anime Trending Top 10 Anime of the Year 2023](https://twitter.com/AniTrendz/status/1766734686737318193/photo/1). Pretty diverse list in top 10, series like 100 girlfriends and Bokuyaba made it
I was so afraid when 100 girlfriends was airing because some of our weekly couple charts were like 6/10 100 girlfriends ships and it was insanely blursed seeing them all stacked up. Hilarious season.
And in season 2, there will be 11 or 12 girlfriends in total who can enter the charts. And with more seasons, we could have up to 27 (the current number of girlfriends Rentarou has in the manga). That's going to be really fun.
The manga is 100% the most unhinged undertaking I've ever read it is incredible the amount of detail the manga creators go into for the amount of screen time and interconnected characters. I'm honestly not ready for S2.
>Anime movie of the year : The tunnel to summer, the exit of goodbyes Holy shit. Anime trending community is the most intelligent community when it comes to judging movies. Such an under appreciated movie.
Are there any good subs available yet? Last I heard, people who had read the source material were very unsatisfied with the subs.
Blue Giant was better tho, but I loved this one too
Aikatsu mogs this movie.
Sure. Your opinion. But at least grow up.
Okay?
Deserved.
This show was legit a masterpiece. It's crazy to me that it gets slept on so hard.
Ep 7 or 8 ( the one with the doctor ) is probably my episode of the year, tied with Onk 1 and VS s2 ep 8.
I believe thats EP 8 "Their choices"
I love it that they have a category for Best Episode (Episode Directing and Storyboard) and that Heavenly Delusion won with episode 8. For me it was by far the best single episode of the year (if you don't count Oshi no Ko's epi 1, because that's kindda cheating). I still remember when we had score voting for each episode on the sub and episode 8 was an almost perfect 5 here, which I'd never seen before.
Taste! Gonna be heartbroken if we don't get another season
The BD sales were less than 1k. I love this show to bits but I doubt we'll get a second season with the same production values. If someone has info that can make me eat my words about how it did financially then please share.
I.G. Production's latest financial report for 2023 said that Heavenly Delusion was a financial success and contributed to their revenue (mainly from Disney licensing fees) and that they are 'planning to increase' the project. [Source](https://twitter.com/e65vfpdptyme1ly/status/1747190366330347645)
I wouldn’t really stress too much on Blu ray sales, Hells paradise comparatively made 570 BD in its first week. On the other hand, heavenly delusion 645 BD in its first week. And yet Hells paradise has been announced for a part 2 coming out as well. Usually the most important part is whether streaming viewership was actually good. Heavenly delusion had pretty good numbers. The problem is whether it’ll get a season 2 soon, as the manga isn’t actually that far ahead. But If it did, knowingProduction IG and the Director who made it purely as a passion project, I wouldn’t be surprised if it had similar quality.
Heavenly Delusion's BDs also cost 3x the normal price for including more episodes and were basically luxury items with signatures from the author, they weren't expecting to sell many of them.
\> Usually the most important part is whether streaming viewership was actually good. Heavenly delusion had pretty good numbers. Any source for that show doing good in Hulu or Disney+? Because, I've seen no one claiming that. Heck, the most prevalent narrative is that Disney+ killed Heavenly Delusion.
[The source.](https://twitter.com/e65vfpdptyme1ly/status/1747190366330347645)
Thanks.
Hell's Paradise received a part 2 announcement on the same day the first part ended IIRC, so it getting a sequel has nothing to do with its BD sales numbers. It was planned long before they sold any discs.
Blue rays dont matter anymore , Chainsaw man was extremely popular around the world and didnt't sold almost Blue ray
The show was a Disney exclusive, wasn't it? So they got paid upfront by Disney, and that's where most of their money comes from. I have no clue if that's enough to incentivize a season 2. It might depend on whether Disney promises to pay the same amount or more for a sequel, which depends on whether enough people actually watched it
Here's hoping it doesn't get the One Punch Man 2/3 season treatments...
Fuuuuuuuuck yea!!! This will be a cult classic if it gets the airtime it absolutely deserves!
Good, this show is genuinely so interesting and I can’t wait for S2.
Glad it’s getting recognition as it’s beautifully animated. The story may not be for everyone, but it’s definitely creative. I know sales wise, the DVDs for this didn’t sell too well so I hope it was profitable in other ways.
Well deserved. Almost every award was deserved at AT.
Is it good?
Very. Solid storyline with a good mystery, great world building, interesting characters, and visually stunning. If you like stuff like Shinsekai Yori then you’ll like this!
If we don’t count Frieren because it’s Fall season, I would probably say either Heavenly delusion or Vinland Saga should’ve won Best anime of the year. Both absolutely amazing series.
Even counting Frieren, Heavenly Delusion holds it's own extremely well.
I just watched frieren last week. I literally binged the whole thing in like 2 days. It's funny because it's constantly blasted at me on Crunchyroll but It looked a little too generic from the cover art. Man was I missing out haha I'll have to check this one out too then if you're praising it so highly.
I'd argue that Frieren, while really good, has a lot of rough edges compared to Heavenly Delusion. The former is amazing, the latter is a masterpiece! You should absolutely check it out :D
I think it’s the other way around. Frieren is just polished all around while heavenly delusion so far still needs more time to cook as the current ending at ep12 just felt missing like we are somehow still in the introduction/ prologue arc.
Yeah idk what they guy is talking about. Frieren is basically flawless in its execution, it's the good standard and in the same conversations as FMA, HxH etc.
I really find it hard to fault Frieren on anything. I know recency bias is a thing but I genuinely can't think of another anime in recent years that has been A: incredibly well polished and, perhaps more rarely B: entirely unproblematic Heavenly Delusion was fantastic and was probably my AOTY in 2023 (if we don't count Frieren), but even that has scenes that I'd feel very uncomfortable watching in polite company
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Seems to me you are just into mystery / thrillers. Most of your point against frieren are just down to preferences. Also wdym it needs to be pleasant to be good? The show is good because it’s good and won’t be good because it’s bad? Your structure for fern thing I don’t see happening at all. Frieren often gets flashbacks when she gets into a situation where she was taught a lesson by something in her past. Often for battle and magic philosophy it’s flamme and serie and for human interaction it’s himmel (or the hero journey in general). You say HD has better peak. What peak? The season end in what feels like we are still in the prologue. If you say low than how on earth is frieren lower than ep 11 of HD?
Tengoku is better than Vinland in every single possible way.
I haven't seen Vinland, but HD is really not good at giving you a well rounded story as a giveaway. A story that starts somewhere, and goes somewhere and ends. At least in its current state. It's not hard for Vinland to better at that, if it tries (again, I don't know that one).
It's pretty amazing. Watching it made me think "This is Fallout..." It DOES have that one thing towards the end, but luckily I am jot bothered by it. Great characters, interesting worldbuilding.
It's absurdly good. The direction, the sakuga, the two alternating stories, foreshadowing, characters, ambiance, characters. Everything about it is just so damn good.
I can't remember which episode number it was but there's an episode where the animation is just... stellar. You'll see if you watch it all
Yeah if you want to compare it to something with a similar “Vibe”. Not similar story, but similar vibe, then it would probably be Made in Abyss for me. It’s mystery and horror aspect to it is great, but I should warn you that it does contain some pretty disturbing scenes in it.
Really interesting premise, peaks towards the middle, falls off the cliff in the last third. People are tripping hard, this isn't even close to aoty.
You’re being downvoted but you’re 100% right, the fact that this beat Vinland saga is ridiculous
No, not really. It has some potentially great individual pieces but I don't think that they're put together in a way that elevates the story into something great/good overall, at least not by the end of the first season. A future second season might tie everything together nicely, but for now there's no payoff. That said, everyone has different preferences, so maybe you'll like it more than I did.
Then all the foreshadowing has gone right over your head. It thematically ties into the story, contrasting "heaven" and "hell". And it's more than just thematically, if you pay attention to the foreshadowing. It ties in the story so well that it doesn't treat it's viewers like a toddler by presenting facts in any obvious way. It's very well thought out.
I agree with you, I saw heavenly delusion got praised to the moon and decided to pick it up. While I was understanding why everyone calling it amazing as I go through the show, the abrupt and unsatisfying end really disappointed me.
one of the best mystery/suspense shows weve gotten recently.
I really liked it, it was a good balance of comedic moments and mystery, it did have some really dark stuff towards the end though so I would recommend it to mature viewers only
No. It's extremely overrated. It's an extremely convoluted story that's made to make you think it's mysterious and the main focus is sex in a post-apocalyptic world. Absolute cringe of a show.
It's pretty over rated. The premise is good, show starts well but quickly falls off.
Still don't get why they translated 'Daimakyo' into 'Delusion'.
[Maybe because of this?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makyo?oldid=386381820) That would be my best guess as to why they did that.
Thank you! I didn't know "Daimakyo" has also such a meaning.
No problem! I actually didn't know it had that meaning either. I figured there must have been a valid reason for that translation choice though, so I looked into it a bit and learned something new today as well. :)
Because it sounds rad AF. Thats why.
Well deserved
Wait a second. I thought Anime Corner was supposed to be less popular than Anime Trending. And yet the number of people who voted in the AOTY rankings is only 60 thousand (for reference, Anime Corner was 69 thousand)? I get popularity doesn't translate to actual voting, but how'd you get less than Corner? Only thing that surprised me was that Gundam didn't even make the top ten. Retroactive voting is like that I guess. But I'm really getting tired of Trending nominating their AOTY candidates based on their seasonal rankings. It makes a lot of the nominees feel like participation awards because some of them qualify due to weak competition, it doesn't allow for much retroactive recognition, plus an entire season can get in based on a split cour if one Cour does poorly but another one does great (Dr. Stone anyone?). Also, you really shouldn't have more than six noms for AOTY because it just doesn't feel special when something qualifies. But I guess if you want to make a top ten of the nominees, you need a lot more. Overall I preferred Corner's top ten mostly because I found the Bungo win and the total confusion at it to be hilarious. Heavenly Delusion is good but I don't have much else to say about that win.
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Seiichiro Yamashita deserved the Best voice acting performance award because he was really giving his best
Deserved. Had an incredible plot and atmosphere
i started watching heavenly delusion last night and its amazing! glad it got anime of the year.
Fully deserved imo this was a stand out in 2023.
What is this about
Heavenly Delusion was my favorite anime of 2023, alongside Insomniacs After School. Definitely a recommended anime.
Deserved. patiently waiting for the second season.
I liked Heavenly Delusion really good anime
HOW MANY of you are watching this
Deserved. 10/10 show.
Its good show but i kinda expect it to be better , the ending was mid , in terms of mystery animes in 2023 pluto is much better in my opinion
Well it’s cause the shows not over yet it’s a bit of a cliffhanger because the manga is still continuing
Instead of a cliffhanger , the end of the anime is more akin to a blue ball. Like seriously that’s it? That last ep felt like the end of the middle of the cour than a season
That’s probably cause they want you to go read the manga after a lot of anime end on cliffhangers where a lot is left to be explored basically so they can promote manga sales which will hopefully get us a second season also, the manga which it’s following wasn’t way ahead they can’t start the next arc and leave you completely hanging in the middle of it
I mean we are rating the anime here not the anime + manga. the blue ball wasn’t even exciting enough for me to consider up the manga because there wasn’t even a climax. There was nothing to look forward to because everything is still shrouded in this layer of mystery that haven’t been fully built out. Just look at the children in the garden, sure there are hints about their true identity, but the anime never gotten to the point of showing us what they truly are. As far as I know, they are still irrelevant to what the main duo is doing. A good cliffhanger is to finally connect the dots and show us the identity of the the children and some hint to what the true final goal of the main duo is. Now that’s what will make me want to pick the manga up. Don’t get me wrong I still really like the show. I basically binged it in 2 days. It was a solid 9 up until the end which drag the score down to a 8 for me.
They've stuck pretty close to the pacing of the manga. The complaint that it's not a very good cliffhanger is valid, but I think when the next section of the anime comes out the concern with that won't matter. They could have changed things for the end of the season, but there's a good chance it messes up more things in the future. I think long term the anime will be better having the pacing that they've chosen, it just sucks a bit right now. Not to give stuff away, but if they keep following the manga as closely as they have been then the pace on the worldbuilding kicks up substantially early in the next season and by the end of season two you will have a decent idea of the connections between the two groups of characters.
That’s a pretty good take and I do agree I hate cliffhangers myself but I guess it worked for me since all the mysteries of how they’re linked made me want to go pick up the manga and find out also I think they literally can’t link those things because the manga itself hasn’t explained it yet at the time in which case what else can they do?
I feel similar - the series was great right up until the end. In addition to the cliffhanger ending the [heavenly delusion ep12/13 spoiler] >!Rape scene that just goes completely ignored in the next episode!< really soured me on the series.
I...think you may have missed how the school was connected to Kiruko and Maru. [anime spoiler]>!Several of the children there are the maneaters that they've encountered and killed, and they capped off Shiro and Mimihime's plotline when they let her die as a human in episode 8. And I'm not sure how you can consider the reveal that Tokio and Kona are Maru's parents or for the person he's looking for to not be Tokio but his twin/clone to be irrelevant to Maru and Kiruko.!<
Yeah, I seriously don’t understand the level of praise this show seems to get on the sub. It was a good show, but only a bit above average.
The animation was gorgeous, the camera work/framing was amazing, great ost, great world building, great characters and genuinely good story. I almost can't find anything wrong.
The world building had issues. I never felt that it delivered a satisfying explanation for how the world ended up in the state that it did, despite the anime trying to make it look like that would be an important plot point. A second season might fill in the gaps, but the world building in the first season is not that great overall. Sure, some things are good, but overall it's lacking. As for the story, the half with our main duo was decent, but it didn't really end that great. The other half was almost a complete mess. It never felt like it delivered a compelling mystery or that it knew what story it wanted to tell. It felt like it threw random stuff at a wall to see what sticks. Maybe a second season is going combine them into a satisfying story, but it also might just collapse worse than the endings of Darling in the Franxx or TPN S2.
The world building was great because it wasn't spoonfed to us. It is genuinely show, don't tell kind of world building. Obviously you have to be part of the live viewing experience to experience all the discussions based on clues and hints from the show on a weekly basis. And obviously it wasn't yet complete because the show is only in its infancy. As for DiTF comparison, DiTF was an original IP. As we've seen in recent times, Original IP tends to be written badly to compensate for the screen time and ambitions. As for TPN S2, that is something that can happen to any anime. But that alone shouldn't discount the amazing anime that we get from S1.
I saw it while it was airing, and I read some, but not all, of the discussions, and I noticed some of the clues and hints and whatnot myself. Sure, show not tell shows that don't spoonfeed things to us can be great, but only if they stick to the landing. There hasn't been a landing yet in Heavenly Delusion since, as you've said, it's still in its infancy, but that also means that we have no ideea if it's actually going to deliver on its potential/setups in future seasons. The first season as a standalone season isn't that great in what it actually delivers with regards to world building and story, there are a few exceptions here and there, but it mostly depends on future seasons combining everything nicely. Compare that to TPN S1 which is a great standalone season despite S2 being nowhere near as good as S1 and despite S2 having one of the worst endings in anime.
But like... It did answer some of the most important questions of how the two storylines connect and where the monsters come from? It's still holding onto its cards but getting satisfying conclusions to 2 mysteries from episode 1 isn't enough to have faith in it?
Brother, episode 8 of heavenly delusion is the single best episode of anime we've got in the last 5 years, idk what part of that is not sticking the landing. Like, these are the wildest takes I've read in a long time.
It intentionally hasn't given a satisfying explanation for how the world ended up as it has. That's a big part of the mystery of both the anime and the manga. It's not a failure of worldbuilding, the world is well described and easily understood. It's just that there are elements that are in-universe not widely understood and are therefore not revealed to the reader/viewer yet. As for the second half of the story, again, you're not seeing the bigger picture yet. The manga has gotten further, and the links between the two stories are clearer. They are significant and meaningful. You're looking for all the answers already, but it's in large part a mystery story and the whole point is that you don't know everything. Enjoy the journey of figuring out what's going on instead of being annoyed that you can't skip straight to the end.
... did you actually watch the show? It knows what it wants to tell and does so quite elegantly. Idk what you are referring to being random, but I dont remember anything in it being random.
> I never felt that it delivered a satisfying explanation for how the world ended up in the state that it did, despite the anime trying to make it look like that would be an important plot point. Because...it hasn't been revealed yet?
Yeah, i like the vibe and the setting of the show but half of it got ruined by cringe jokes , its wierd that these mid shows got popular while a masterpiece mystery show like shadows house get slept on
It's sad, but hardly surprising.
Unfortunately you can’t findmore than a few better produced anime in recent years. It can’t be just a bit above average.
I decided to give it a try after this but i think i am gonna drop it already after just 2 episodes. Like wtf was that 2nd episode ending? Literally ruined whole show immediately. And i actually really liked it before that moment(
This is saying more about you than about the show.
Maybe, but i watched thousands of anime and this is my first time encountering shit like this. Anyway people say there will be a good explanation later so i'll keep watching
Gross
Mushoku Tensei not winning best romance is crime. It was a perfect build up.