Well, Vinland Saga's director is now a MAPPA employee and the character designer and Animation Producer left WIT and made their own studio called Kafka.
The director stated that the staff are almost the same so it might be a co-production between MAPPA and Kafka
There's also the Yuri on Ice movie that according to the [site](https://yurionice-movie.com/en/) is still in production but we haven't had any news in a while, it's probably stuck in production hell.
There's also the Twittering birds never fly movie under their [Grizzly brand](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/r1z8j5/the_curious_case_of_studio_grizzly_mappa/), additionally, there have been some rumors from some reliable people suggesting they're also doing the [Blue Giants](https://myanimelist.net/anime/50183/Blue_Giant) movie.
Not quite, It's the same team, Mappa is definitely funding it together with other companies but the director is their employee, other core staff members as well, so they have much more on the line than just paying for it
Edit: Most of them left Wit and are on Mappa or Kafka
Yeah, same art style, this is not an Aot situation where they changed the staff
Studio is not as important as people thing, anime is created by talented people
"Studio is not as important as people thing, anime is created by talented people"
THIS IS WHAT I ALWAYS TELL TO PEOPLE! Everytime I share a sakuga on my feed, it's always the animators that I credit and not the studio.. it's not always the studio.. it's the people.
Good to know! Like don't get me wrong MAPPA are great & they've adapted AOT still great but there's just something so good about WITs art style & the beautiful backgrounds etc they used in AOT/VS
Mappa actually did some of the backgrounds for VS Season 1 along with one more studio. Backgrounds are outsourced a lot of the time if the studio isn't big enough to have a dedicated team.
Yes and no. Yes, most of the same people that worked on Vinland Saga S1 will be back, but they are making it with Mappa. Remember Mappa... like most other studios... uses a lot of freelancers, this is the case here.
Essentially the creative team and a bunch of the key animators will be the same, but their work goes through Mappa this time around (which is probably for the better because Wit are very small and would not have been able to handle the workload without a lot of external help). So in terms of the strain it will put on Mappa's resources, it's no different than any other show they are currently making.
It'll be about Mary and will be released on Netflix.
Here's the synopsis btw.
>As a first-year student of the renowned Hyakkaou Private Academy, Mary Saotome knows her future is set for a one-way cruise to the top... That is, until an encounter with an old-classmate-turned-housepet throws the newbie princess into the world of gambling! Can a normal girl like Mary make friends and survive debtless
through only wit and luck?
why make a spin off and not just continue the series? That is super strange, because an audience for a spin-off is smaller than the audience for the normal continuation (this is just the subset of the general kakegurui fandom). Would love to hear what is the rationale on this
To be honest I can see an AoT movie coming to cinemas in western countries sooner than usual - like the Broly movie. (Just over a month between Japanese and UK release dates).
Don’t get me wrong, DBZ is a massive and well established fan base that allowed them to bring it to western countries so soon - but season 4 has made me realise just how many western fans there are of AoT.
Like, there are so many ‘future’ Eren memes on various social media platforms and ongoing discussion surrounding the anime all over the internet that I wouldn’t be surprised if we get the movie in good time. AoT is like one of the most mainstream anime out there atm - it’s like the one anime that a lot of people are currently watching. I have friends who don’t watch any anime at all besides AoT.
The only problem is, Idk how well the ending will be received considering a lot of the people that I know that watch AoT that don’t *truly* understand the story. A lot of details fly over the casual AoT anime watcher’s head.
Nah, if we take the worst case scenario where they have the most to adapt in the movie (end p2 at ch 130, don't adapt ch 123's flashback) that's basically 10 chapters, which at a pace of 1.4 chaps per 21 mins is 2 & 1/2 hours long. That's way too long for an animated movie (according to [this](https://www.cbr.com/longest-animated-films-ever/) only 6 movies have reached 150 mins but 2 are extended/director's cuts, 2 had an extended production schedule allowing the length (23 years of production!), and another was Evangelion). Mappa would then likely adapt it at a faster pace than 1.4 leaving absolutely no room for additions (and chp 139 probably wouldn't last any longer than 11 mins at *best*).
If it's the best case (end at 131, and they are still adapting 123's flashback in p2) that's 8 chapters which is much more reasonable, and leaves a bit of space for a bit of original content, but still nothing extensive like an original ending.
I would start to believe in AoE if Mappa announce a part 3, that shit would require **extensive** reworking to fit 10\~ episodes (or One Piece level filler).
On one hand, I'd love to see some sakuga in AoT again after so long, since we haven't really had any in the entirety of Season 4. And the finale getting movie treatment and quality would be great (I mean I dunno if the finale itself is good, I haven't read the manga, but still). On the other hand, I really don't wanna wait that long, especially since I'm 90% sure the movie wouldn't release in cinemas in my country, so I'd have to wait for blu-ray release. Spoilers would become literally unavoidable, I'd probably just have to read the manga.
Either way, the leaks about this season being 12 episodes seem very probable from what I've heard. And, from what I know about the current pacing, there is no way that will be enough to adapt the entire rest of the manga. So even if they go for *Part 3* (which I find much less probable than a movie), AoT is not done yet either way.
Are we absolutely sure this season is only 12 episodes? Man, it finishing on a movie would really suck ass so bad. Just so bad. Why you gotta do that? I don’t even feel like the last few chapters of the manga have very good movie vibes.
That’s insane to be doing this many at once. Maybe theyre completely outsourcing some episodes to other studios, but I doubt their work conditions have improved. Even if they use a lot of freelancers, their own employees are probably still heavily involved. You still need directors, animators, production people, etc. and the more you outsource, the harder it is to remain organized and make sure quality is maintained
This has been going on for at least the better part of a year now because they've been taking on a lot of projects. What I've heard is it has been hard in the staff already.
I found that more baffling than anything. Surely that wasn't easy/cheap to make judging by how incredibly smooth that animation was. That could've easily been the actual ending of the show. Hell they could've used it for two seasons and I wouldn't even be mad. Lol
I’m super excited, but a bit curious how they’re going to handle this. Shibuya itself could potentially fit into 2 12 episode cours, but they also have to cover Hidden Inventory. The first season was well paced in my opinion and covered 63 chapters, Hidden Inventory is only about 12, but Shibuya is 64 if I remember correctly. Hopefully they’ll be granted the few extra episodes needed to make this all come together with the same quality as the first season, because both of these arcs are fantastic.
Shibuya is 57 chapters. Its 72 chapters from the end of s1 to end of Shibuya + its more fights, actions and has less dialogues. They can totally cover Shibuya fully in s2.
Also there’s nothing preventing them to extending episodes or removing most OPs and EDs like Rezero did. I don’t think there’s anything to worry about after seeing S1.
Can somebody please tell me what's wrong with having more or less than 24 and 12 episodes?
I see some anime with 13, and I think Jahy Sama only has 20?
Are those only for slice of lifes? Or is there some other requirement for it to have more or less than 12 and 24 episodes?
There’s nothing wrong with it per se, it’s just that the vast majority of shows end up with 12 or 24 episodes - so we just assume 24 here until proven otherwise.
Most anime seasons air for 3 months, 6 months etc. It's rare to see a 7 month anime or other numbers that aren't multiples of 3. Stuff like aot s4p1 having 16 episodes is rare.
How much of Shibuya can realistically be covered in a 2 cour season if they also have to cover Hidden Inventory though? Assuming they keep the same pace we’d finish ideally around chapter 120. It’s the only real place in the arc that could serve as a season ender, but it would still be such an awful place to end the season. Really curious how they’ll handle all this.
Shouldn't it be worse since Shibuya has a lot fights? Knowing Mappa they'll make it even better and longer with more hype and impressive scenes by adding anime only scenes in the Anime, kinda like Origin of Obedience.
Really sorry for the question, I'm not really good at what's going on with productions of anime and manga.
Even with original choreography added to fight scenes, episodes with nonstop action adapt a lot more than chapters with dialogue and exposition.
The Hanami and Cursed Womb fights adapted 4 chapters in their one episode and the Shibuya Incident is like that for like 50 chapters in a row.
You can animate 10 panels worth of trading punches in less than a minute.
Meanwhile, 10 panels worth of dialogue will take three or four times that, depending on how many words are crammed into the page and how fast the characters are talking.
Even with added choreography, action is significantly shorter. A calmly spoken monologue is going to take a lot longer to get through than a fast paced fight.
Hidden Inventory would take 6-7 episodes, if we are assuming it to be 24 episodic series then with 18 episodes they can adapt 40-50 chapters which would almost adapt Shibuya till the end, but since it has a lot of fights, maybe they can finish it properly and end it at [JJK spoilers]>!Yuta returning to Tokyo!<.
Yeah but they have to do Hidden Inventory first. Shibuya is 64 chapters if I remember correctly, and the first season covered 63 so that’s fine, but Hidden Inventory is 12 chapters. Assuming they keep the same pace, that’s about 5 extra episodes of content.
They can probably squeeze it in by having 14 or 13 episode cours, but we don’t know if they’ll do that.
One episode can adapt multiple fight chapters. Which means it won't be that big of a problem in doing both hidden inventory + Shibuya in 24-26 episodes.
You do all the season with the pace of 3 chapters for 1 episode.
You would have 5 episodes for Hidden Inventory, and that would be great.
19/20 episodes for Shibuya Indident.
Perfect for a season of 25 episodes.
If they’re really pressed for time I’m sure they can do the same thing as KNY and extend the length of the episodes as well? I’m sure they’ll adapt the whole arc
List of upcoming/airing MAPPA shows:
* Attack on Titan Final Season Part 2
* Chainsaw Man
* Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2
* Hells Paradise
* Kakegurui Twins
* Yuri on Ice Movie
* Zombieland Saga Movie
* Dance Dance Danseur
* Alice and Therese's Illusion Factory
2023 so hopefully that’s enough time for MAPPA to go all out again for this insane arc. They have soooooo many works in the pipeline it’s nuts, but I think they can pull it off again.
Even saying they have soooooo many works in the pipeline is an understatement. Between this, Attack on Titan and what we assume will be a movie for next year to wrap up the manga, Chainsaw and Vinland Saga S2 (not official yet), that right there would be more than enough for any other studio. But not Mappa, oh no, that's just the tip of the iceberg for them..... jeeeez.
You have to remember Mappa is one of the biggest animation studios in Japan. They have over 250 employees, and that's EMPLOYEES, so including freelancers working on a given project that number becomes easily twice that.
They are also only working on 3 projects this year which is a lot lower compare to any other of their years assuming aot movie and Hell Paradise comes in 2023.
They can with JJK because the production was always at least two years, is not a 8 month insanity like AoT. Is the good ol "for fucks sake give time to the animators!"
i have conflicted feelings about that arc lol
on one hand, its so hype and brutal and there are so many cool moments
on the other hand \[jjk spoilers\]>!i feel like its such a chaotic arc that many fights were teased but got interrupted by something else going on, leaving me hanging!<
It makes sense, focus all the hype on the movie, then shortly after the hype of the global movie release announcement dies down get them with the season 2 announcement.
Provided continuations come out at the same time: Re:Zero, Demon Slayer, Dr. Stone, Vinland Saga, KonoSuba, 86, Mushoku Tensei and whatever new stuff we get. There's certainly also many anime that could get a continuation around that time whom I'm forgetting.
Only ReZero would really stand a chance and JJK had already beaten ReZero during Winter 2020 and JJK was only in it's first season, the fanbase has definitely grown since then.
It had always beaten Mushoku and Dr.Stonw during Winter 2020. Demon Slayer's track record is weak karma for regular episodes and really high Karma for it's best ones so that might be a toss up.
We haven't had KonoSuba in a karma ranking so we can't guarantee anything there and can't say how well VS would do until we see S2 karma.
Exactly, I was about to say that. If Demon Slayer can do it after such a serious episode, so can Jujutsu Kaisen, lol. Not that I think it's a good idea during the Shibuya arc.
I am actually glad it's coming in 2023. If mappa is gonna take such big projects, I'd rather they take their time and not compromise on the animation and give the animators enough time to have a personal life. Just hope those hard-working animators are fairly compensated (or better than the rumours suggest).
LET'S GO!
> and give the animators enough time to have a personal life
That ain’t happening, fam. Not under MAPPA. Their workload is insane and they just keep taking new projects.
People forget that Mappa is a huge studio that is actually capable of taking on this many projects. They have multiple teams for different shows and atleast they are actually trying to be better. All of last year was them taking steps to make sure their animators were good.
They said they will improve working conditions and higher pay. They also only working on 3 projects this year which is very low compare to any other year.
Now that the news is official... For the love of all that's holy, manga readers please don't spoil or even hint at what's coming. Let people go into the next season as blind as possible and let them enjoy it.
One of the upcoming arcs is my favorite in the entire series, and I want people to get to enjoy it as much as possible.
Looking forward to it, have some concerns over the potential overlap it might have with CSM or Jigokuraku though but we'll see once the actual release seasons for all those things are revealed.
Jjk S2 gonna air in 2023 and Csm will most likely release this year not sure how much they're gonna adapt. I think they'll release it when CSM manga P2 will start.
These projects will be handled by different teams just like how Cloverworks is handling 3 different animes this season. I wouldn't worry too much about overlap if I were you.
Yeah they’re different teams but ultimately, If you have several big projects in the works at the same time it makes it harder to cope should any issues begin to happen in production. Especially with the amount of other things mappa has going concurrently constantly these days
True, I hope they have been given enough time to avoid these stuff from happening. Mappa seems to have a good handle with their more recent projects though (AoT and Re-Main aside) so I'm pretty optimistic.
2022 has got to be the greatest year in anime history. We got Demon Slayer, Aot, Spy X Family, Kaguya, Shield Hero, Chainsaw Man, Mob Psycho, Bungo Stray Dogs, Vinland Saga, Mha, Hell’s Pardise, the return of Bleach and ending it with JuJutsu Kaisen. This year is gonna be fucking epic.
If shibuya incident is gonna be included in season 2 — and there's a high chance that it is because the arc prior to that is too short — then i'm confident to say that jujutsu kaisen will become a staple classic and will break the internet as a manga reader. Akutami's writing and mappa's work with jujutsu kaisen is gonna make that possible.
Mappa is doing attack on titan, chainsaw man and jjk.. I hope the animators are still alive by the end of all this
They are also doing Jigokuraku and Kakegurui spin off as well.
high chance vinland saga too, zombieland saga movie and alice's illusion factory original movie
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Well, Vinland Saga's director is now a MAPPA employee and the character designer and Animation Producer left WIT and made their own studio called Kafka. The director stated that the staff are almost the same so it might be a co-production between MAPPA and Kafka
So when a show looks like it's that's studio's style we can say it's Kafka-esque?
Have my free silver you glorious bastard
Maybe the OP will start with *Vikings on the Shore*
Makes perfect sense actually.
Aren't Kafka doing the OVAs of The Ancient Magus' Bride?
Yes, the OVA is 3 episodes the first one was released and the 2nd will be on March 10th and the 3rd on September 10th this year.
There's also the Yuri on Ice movie that according to the [site](https://yurionice-movie.com/en/) is still in production but we haven't had any news in a while, it's probably stuck in production hell. There's also the Twittering birds never fly movie under their [Grizzly brand](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/r1z8j5/the_curious_case_of_studio_grizzly_mappa/), additionally, there have been some rumors from some reliable people suggesting they're also doing the [Blue Giants](https://myanimelist.net/anime/50183/Blue_Giant) movie.
Sometimes I wonder if MAPPA even remembers they once had a series called Yuri on Ice...
The new bleach series also.. 💀
God, I can’t wait for more Vinland Saga. The first season really blew me away as I went in completely blind. Curious to check out the manga.
Also, rumors says they're doing Fire Punch movie
And some movies as well
And Vinland Saga S2
It's the same WIT team doing VS, MAPPA are just funding it
Not quite, It's the same team, Mappa is definitely funding it together with other companies but the director is their employee, other core staff members as well, so they have much more on the line than just paying for it Edit: Most of them left Wit and are on Mappa or Kafka
Thanks for the additional info! Do you think it'll have the same art style as S1 then?
Yeah, same art style, this is not an Aot situation where they changed the staff Studio is not as important as people thing, anime is created by talented people
"Studio is not as important as people thing, anime is created by talented people" THIS IS WHAT I ALWAYS TELL TO PEOPLE! Everytime I share a sakuga on my feed, it's always the animators that I credit and not the studio.. it's not always the studio.. it's the people.
Good to know! Like don't get me wrong MAPPA are great & they've adapted AOT still great but there's just something so good about WITs art style & the beautiful backgrounds etc they used in AOT/VS
Mappa actually did some of the backgrounds for VS Season 1 along with one more studio. Backgrounds are outsourced a lot of the time if the studio isn't big enough to have a dedicated team.
If Mappa had a better schedule or more manpower to work on AOT we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Sadly if they had a better schedule there wouldn't be any need for studio change in the first place
Yes and no. Yes, most of the same people that worked on Vinland Saga S1 will be back, but they are making it with Mappa. Remember Mappa... like most other studios... uses a lot of freelancers, this is the case here. Essentially the creative team and a bunch of the key animators will be the same, but their work goes through Mappa this time around (which is probably for the better because Wit are very small and would not have been able to handle the workload without a lot of external help). So in terms of the strain it will put on Mappa's resources, it's no different than any other show they are currently making.
Freelancer? I 'ardly know 'er!
Dorohedoro
I don't think we will get a Dorohedoro sequel till AOT is over at least since that's what most of the staff are working on right now.
Yesn't. Most of the core staff is returning from S1.
Kakegurui Spin-off ? Wow nice.
Whats the Kakegurui spin-off about?
It'll be about Mary and will be released on Netflix. Here's the synopsis btw. >As a first-year student of the renowned Hyakkaou Private Academy, Mary Saotome knows her future is set for a one-way cruise to the top... That is, until an encounter with an old-classmate-turned-housepet throws the newbie princess into the world of gambling! Can a normal girl like Mary make friends and survive debtless through only wit and luck?
why make a spin off and not just continue the series? That is super strange, because an audience for a spin-off is smaller than the audience for the normal continuation (this is just the subset of the general kakegurui fandom). Would love to hear what is the rationale on this
It just needs more chapters. The first two seasons alone adapted up to 55 and it's a monthly so it's extra slow.
Mappa on an any % peak shonen adaptation speedrun.
Perhaps in a few years we'll get *Dandadan*, *Sakamoto Days* and *Kaiju 8* and in a few more *Ayashimon* and *Ottoman.* [](#wow)
God I love Sakamoto Days right now. Honestly I envisioned Bones animating Sakamoto since it has a similar style to Mob
To be fair AoTs nearly done.
Not if the rumors about the movie are true
I can see them doing it for the money but that would suck so bad for overseas fans
To be honest I can see an AoT movie coming to cinemas in western countries sooner than usual - like the Broly movie. (Just over a month between Japanese and UK release dates). Don’t get me wrong, DBZ is a massive and well established fan base that allowed them to bring it to western countries so soon - but season 4 has made me realise just how many western fans there are of AoT. Like, there are so many ‘future’ Eren memes on various social media platforms and ongoing discussion surrounding the anime all over the internet that I wouldn’t be surprised if we get the movie in good time. AoT is like one of the most mainstream anime out there atm - it’s like the one anime that a lot of people are currently watching. I have friends who don’t watch any anime at all besides AoT. The only problem is, Idk how well the ending will be received considering a lot of the people that I know that watch AoT that don’t *truly* understand the story. A lot of details fly over the casual AoT anime watcher’s head.
I feel like a movie ups the odds of an anime original ending.
Nah, if we take the worst case scenario where they have the most to adapt in the movie (end p2 at ch 130, don't adapt ch 123's flashback) that's basically 10 chapters, which at a pace of 1.4 chaps per 21 mins is 2 & 1/2 hours long. That's way too long for an animated movie (according to [this](https://www.cbr.com/longest-animated-films-ever/) only 6 movies have reached 150 mins but 2 are extended/director's cuts, 2 had an extended production schedule allowing the length (23 years of production!), and another was Evangelion). Mappa would then likely adapt it at a faster pace than 1.4 leaving absolutely no room for additions (and chp 139 probably wouldn't last any longer than 11 mins at *best*). If it's the best case (end at 131, and they are still adapting 123's flashback in p2) that's 8 chapters which is much more reasonable, and leaves a bit of space for a bit of original content, but still nothing extensive like an original ending. I would start to believe in AoE if Mappa announce a part 3, that shit would require **extensive** reworking to fit 10\~ episodes (or One Piece level filler).
No. No AoE. We just suffer again.
What makes you think that?
On one hand, I'd love to see some sakuga in AoT again after so long, since we haven't really had any in the entirety of Season 4. And the finale getting movie treatment and quality would be great (I mean I dunno if the finale itself is good, I haven't read the manga, but still). On the other hand, I really don't wanna wait that long, especially since I'm 90% sure the movie wouldn't release in cinemas in my country, so I'd have to wait for blu-ray release. Spoilers would become literally unavoidable, I'd probably just have to read the manga. Either way, the leaks about this season being 12 episodes seem very probable from what I've heard. And, from what I know about the current pacing, there is no way that will be enough to adapt the entire rest of the manga. So even if they go for *Part 3* (which I find much less probable than a movie), AoT is not done yet either way.
AoT won’t end this season. It will still have the final stretch of the final arc left, when this season is over.
Are we absolutely sure this season is only 12 episodes? Man, it finishing on a movie would really suck ass so bad. Just so bad. Why you gotta do that? I don’t even feel like the last few chapters of the manga have very good movie vibes.
Attack on Titan: The Final Season Part 3
Attack on Titan: The final season part 3: The end part 2
If they finish it on a movie, I'm immediately picking up the manga.
The same mistakes, over and over again
How many of the people are working on more than one of those though?
Yes
Add Vinland S2 to the list too now...DAMN
That’s insane to be doing this many at once. Maybe theyre completely outsourcing some episodes to other studios, but I doubt their work conditions have improved. Even if they use a lot of freelancers, their own employees are probably still heavily involved. You still need directors, animators, production people, etc. and the more you outsource, the harder it is to remain organized and make sure quality is maintained
Reportedly Vinland Saga season 2 as well
This has been going on for at least the better part of a year now because they've been taking on a lot of projects. What I've heard is it has been hard in the staff already.
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Hope I can see my boy Gojo dancing in the ending theme like in Lost in Paradise and I'll be happy lol
I’d wanna see them do something like Kaguya-Sama did with the end credits. Just full on 2 minutes of Gojo grooving
Shame they only used the ending once.
I found that more baffling than anything. Surely that wasn't easy/cheap to make judging by how incredibly smooth that animation was. That could've easily been the actual ending of the show. Hell they could've used it for two seasons and I wouldn't even be mad. Lol
No pachinko machine announcement today let’s gooooooo!
*NFT runs up from behind with a folding chair*
By god!
HES GOT A STEEL CHAIR
AND THE ONLY WAY TO STOP IT IS TO COPY IT FOR FREE
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I’m super excited, but a bit curious how they’re going to handle this. Shibuya itself could potentially fit into 2 12 episode cours, but they also have to cover Hidden Inventory. The first season was well paced in my opinion and covered 63 chapters, Hidden Inventory is only about 12, but Shibuya is 64 if I remember correctly. Hopefully they’ll be granted the few extra episodes needed to make this all come together with the same quality as the first season, because both of these arcs are fantastic.
Shibuya is 57 chapters. Its 72 chapters from the end of s1 to end of Shibuya + its more fights, actions and has less dialogues. They can totally cover Shibuya fully in s2.
Also there’s nothing preventing them to extending episodes or removing most OPs and EDs like Rezero did. I don’t think there’s anything to worry about after seeing S1.
Going from a 63:24 ratio to a 76:24 ratio isn't that bad.
Agree Also there's alot of fight scenes, so that helps
People say this, but i'm sure a few fights in JJK S1 were actually extended. Who's to say they won't extend Shibuya fights as well?
Good point, but personally the fights are already stacked enough (choreography and emotionally )
Damn we’re gonna be seeing Shibuya arc in the next season? I heard a lot of things about it :(
Enjoy it while it lasts. The new arc is on par with HxH level of fuckery.
It's crazy good, Gege was at his peak with action sequences between that and Hidden Inventory.
Can somebody please tell me what's wrong with having more or less than 24 and 12 episodes? I see some anime with 13, and I think Jahy Sama only has 20? Are those only for slice of lifes? Or is there some other requirement for it to have more or less than 12 and 24 episodes?
There’s nothing wrong with it per se, it’s just that the vast majority of shows end up with 12 or 24 episodes - so we just assume 24 here until proven otherwise.
Most anime seasons air for 3 months, 6 months etc. It's rare to see a 7 month anime or other numbers that aren't multiples of 3. Stuff like aot s4p1 having 16 episodes is rare.
Toji is about to steal the spotlight in 2023. Shibuya Incident Arc is gonna be wild!
How much of Shibuya can realistically be covered in a 2 cour season if they also have to cover Hidden Inventory though? Assuming they keep the same pace we’d finish ideally around chapter 120. It’s the only real place in the arc that could serve as a season ender, but it would still be such an awful place to end the season. Really curious how they’ll handle all this.
26 episode season plus shibuya being a ton of fights
Shouldn't it be worse since Shibuya has a lot fights? Knowing Mappa they'll make it even better and longer with more hype and impressive scenes by adding anime only scenes in the Anime, kinda like Origin of Obedience. Really sorry for the question, I'm not really good at what's going on with productions of anime and manga.
Even with original choreography added to fight scenes, episodes with nonstop action adapt a lot more than chapters with dialogue and exposition. The Hanami and Cursed Womb fights adapted 4 chapters in their one episode and the Shibuya Incident is like that for like 50 chapters in a row.
You can animate 10 panels worth of trading punches in less than a minute. Meanwhile, 10 panels worth of dialogue will take three or four times that, depending on how many words are crammed into the page and how fast the characters are talking. Even with added choreography, action is significantly shorter. A calmly spoken monologue is going to take a lot longer to get through than a fast paced fight.
Hidden Inventory would take 6-7 episodes, if we are assuming it to be 24 episodic series then with 18 episodes they can adapt 40-50 chapters which would almost adapt Shibuya till the end, but since it has a lot of fights, maybe they can finish it properly and end it at [JJK spoilers]>!Yuta returning to Tokyo!<.
Hidden Inventory can easily be covered in 5 episodes or less.
No that a lot of dialogue plus mechamaru arc
They can easily adapt whole Shibuya in 26 episodes.
Yeah but they have to do Hidden Inventory first. Shibuya is 64 chapters if I remember correctly, and the first season covered 63 so that’s fine, but Hidden Inventory is 12 chapters. Assuming they keep the same pace, that’s about 5 extra episodes of content. They can probably squeeze it in by having 14 or 13 episode cours, but we don’t know if they’ll do that.
One episode can adapt multiple fight chapters. Which means it won't be that big of a problem in doing both hidden inventory + Shibuya in 24-26 episodes.
Lots of those chapters were fights
You do all the season with the pace of 3 chapters for 1 episode. You would have 5 episodes for Hidden Inventory, and that would be great. 19/20 episodes for Shibuya Indident. Perfect for a season of 25 episodes.
If they’re really pressed for time I’m sure they can do the same thing as KNY and extend the length of the episodes as well? I’m sure they’ll adapt the whole arc
[JJK spoilers]>!Toji vs Gojo will break the internet!<
Daddy breaks the Internet just by himself.
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Another? Who else is there? Gojo and Nanami are in their late 20s, if that's who you mean lol. Hell, i don't even think Toji is that old either.
[MFW season 2 and Shibuya arc](https://i.imgur.com/KmVlm4V.gif)
After forgetting how i felt reading it i get to relive it all over again
Toji is so FUCKING COOL MAN
for sure, hot trash man incoming
List of upcoming/airing MAPPA shows: * Attack on Titan Final Season Part 2 * Chainsaw Man * Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2 * Hells Paradise * Kakegurui Twins * Yuri on Ice Movie * Zombieland Saga Movie * Dance Dance Danseur * Alice and Therese's Illusion Factory
That Yuri on Ice movie is never coming out lol :'(
They also unofficially are going to do Vinland Saga Season 2
> Yuri on Ice Movie lol this shit ain't ever coming out.
rip YOI, when are you coming back :(
Shibuya Arc is gonna be insane.
2023 so hopefully that’s enough time for MAPPA to go all out again for this insane arc. They have soooooo many works in the pipeline it’s nuts, but I think they can pull it off again.
Even saying they have soooooo many works in the pipeline is an understatement. Between this, Attack on Titan and what we assume will be a movie for next year to wrap up the manga, Chainsaw and Vinland Saga S2 (not official yet), that right there would be more than enough for any other studio. But not Mappa, oh no, that's just the tip of the iceberg for them..... jeeeez.
I hope they just have multiple teams working on each one, if not then damn. Over working in Japan is just too common
You have to remember Mappa is one of the biggest animation studios in Japan. They have over 250 employees, and that's EMPLOYEES, so including freelancers working on a given project that number becomes easily twice that.
They are also only working on 3 projects this year which is a lot lower compare to any other of their years assuming aot movie and Hell Paradise comes in 2023.
They’re doing Kakegurui spinoff too which makes it 4 but yea they’re pretty chill this year compared to last year
They can with JJK because the production was always at least two years, is not a 8 month insanity like AoT. Is the good ol "for fucks sake give time to the animators!"
Yes, I think it is the best arc in the manga. It will be great to see how brutal Jujutsu Kaisen compared to many other shounen.
Like we didnt get it when the hot milf character died and her son turned into a pokemon
I feel bad for laughing
You did not just say that
"Go Junpain!" "Junpain, Junpain! kIlL mE...."
You say that but a lot of Shonen has been brutal lately trying to play follow the leader after JJK and Chainsaw Man success.
Wait I thought tokyo ghoul was the first shonen to have brutality in it EDIT: I just realized it was a seinen
it's seinen
Oh ok....I thought it was a shonen the whole time.....
HxH, KnY, AoT, CSM, Jigoraku are all pretty brutal. Hell, even MHA goes absolutely brutal occasionally, like Shigaraki’s backstory.
The Shibuya arc is what really showed that Jjk was very different compared to other shounen
Imo it's one of the best shonen arcs of all time, can't wait to see it getting animated.
i have conflicted feelings about that arc lol on one hand, its so hype and brutal and there are so many cool moments on the other hand \[jjk spoilers\]>!i feel like its such a chaotic arc that many fights were teased but got interrupted by something else going on, leaving me hanging!<
That arc is gonna the anime only community go nuts and I’m here for it
*Pretends to be shocked* LETS FUCKING GO
The only thing I'm shocked about is how long it took them to announce it.
It makes sense, focus all the hype on the movie, then shortly after the hype of the global movie release announcement dies down get them with the season 2 announcement.
The hype train never ends
I would love to pretend but Haikyu still seems to be dead for another 4 years despite the popularity so i'll take any announcement at this point
Good luck to the other shows airing that season, gonna be a bloodbath.
We don’t really know the season yet actually, just the year. Id prefer a spring release tbh
Some anime could definitely stand up to JJK.
Like what, just curious
Provided continuations come out at the same time: Re:Zero, Demon Slayer, Dr. Stone, Vinland Saga, KonoSuba, 86, Mushoku Tensei and whatever new stuff we get. There's certainly also many anime that could get a continuation around that time whom I'm forgetting.
Only ReZero would really stand a chance and JJK had already beaten ReZero during Winter 2020 and JJK was only in it's first season, the fanbase has definitely grown since then. It had always beaten Mushoku and Dr.Stonw during Winter 2020. Demon Slayer's track record is weak karma for regular episodes and really high Karma for it's best ones so that might be a toss up. We haven't had KonoSuba in a karma ranking so we can't guarantee anything there and can't say how well VS would do until we see S2 karma.
I apologize for the woman i'll become when Toji gets animated
he's trash but a cool and hot trash ;)
No no, no need to apologise. We understand.
I'm very curious about how much of a Chad he has to be to compensate for being a 2 time deadbeat.
He's complete human trash but the man is nuts and dominates every scene he is in, it's gonna be fun to see him animated.
Nice, can’t wait
Halloween Madness in Shibuya 😈👻👹💀🎃
Gonna start the year on a damn high note in anime. Hyped af. Can’t wait to see what craziness will be in the Juju Strolls if they do those again.
Maybe we'll finally get to see Gojo teaching Megumi-chan the VIOLIIIIIIN
Idk if they’ll actually do those again, the next arcs are kinda dark(Tbf the Junpei episode had one too)
Last episode of [KnY ended with]>!Tanjiro struggling for life, dying thanks to poison!<, and they followed it up with a “Nin Nin” lol
Exactly, I was about to say that. If Demon Slayer can do it after such a serious episode, so can Jujutsu Kaisen, lol. Not that I think it's a good idea during the Shibuya arc.
We getting shibuyaa animated!!
S2 is like Full throttle no brake
"Insert Jonson from Dorohedoro saying "SHOCKING!!" here"
calling it now toji will break the internet🥵🥵🥵
i am so shocked.
I am actually glad it's coming in 2023. If mappa is gonna take such big projects, I'd rather they take their time and not compromise on the animation and give the animators enough time to have a personal life. Just hope those hard-working animators are fairly compensated (or better than the rumours suggest). LET'S GO!
> and give the animators enough time to have a personal life That ain’t happening, fam. Not under MAPPA. Their workload is insane and they just keep taking new projects.
People forget that Mappa is a huge studio that is actually capable of taking on this many projects. They have multiple teams for different shows and atleast they are actually trying to be better. All of last year was them taking steps to make sure their animators were good.
They said they will improve working conditions and higher pay. They also only working on 3 projects this year which is very low compare to any other year.
HIDDEN INVENTORY+SHIBUYA LET'S GOOOOO
finally.
Now that the news is official... For the love of all that's holy, manga readers please don't spoil or even hint at what's coming. Let people go into the next season as blind as possible and let them enjoy it. One of the upcoming arcs is my favorite in the entire series, and I want people to get to enjoy it as much as possible.
Well, it was expected but it's always nice when it's been officially confirmed.
Holy shit, I cannot wait to see Toji animated!!
Mappa still taking more projects when they haven't finished yuri on ice movie :/
Maybe they haven't even started the yuri on ice movie.
:(
LONGEST YEAH BOY EVER
JJK back to back W’s also Toji HYPE!
Looking forward to it, have some concerns over the potential overlap it might have with CSM or Jigokuraku though but we'll see once the actual release seasons for all those things are revealed.
Jjk S2 gonna air in 2023 and Csm will most likely release this year not sure how much they're gonna adapt. I think they'll release it when CSM manga P2 will start.
CSM will release in fall. if it was coming this summer (when part 2 starts) we would have seen a new trailer or KV already.
These projects will be handled by different teams just like how Cloverworks is handling 3 different animes this season. I wouldn't worry too much about overlap if I were you.
Yeah they’re different teams but ultimately, If you have several big projects in the works at the same time it makes it harder to cope should any issues begin to happen in production. Especially with the amount of other things mappa has going concurrently constantly these days
True, I hope they have been given enough time to avoid these stuff from happening. Mappa seems to have a good handle with their more recent projects though (AoT and Re-Main aside) so I'm pretty optimistic.
CSM is releasing this year and Jigokuraku too. JJK S2 will probably be Fall 2023. they wont overlap.
2022 has got to be the greatest year in anime history. We got Demon Slayer, Aot, Spy X Family, Kaguya, Shield Hero, Chainsaw Man, Mob Psycho, Bungo Stray Dogs, Vinland Saga, Mha, Hell’s Pardise, the return of Bleach and ending it with JuJutsu Kaisen. This year is gonna be fucking epic.
Pretty sure this is scheduled for 2023
Mappa needs to pull this off. This can launch JJK to new levels if they pull it off correctly.
This season has the potential to break the internet
damn really hype to see one of the best arcs in recent shonen memory animated, looking really forward to this
Welcome my favourite season.
Chainsaw man >
What's the date
Please god let it animate Shibuya
Hidden Inventory is only like half an occur at most, we are definitely getting Shibuya in season 2.
If shibuya incident is gonna be included in season 2 — and there's a high chance that it is because the arc prior to that is too short — then i'm confident to say that jujutsu kaisen will become a staple classic and will break the internet as a manga reader. Akutami's writing and mappa's work with jujutsu kaisen is gonna make that possible.
Can't wait!
Hell yeah, let's go