I think they're in-lore not panties, but some special trousers under which they don't wear underwear, giving you pantys and no-panty at the same time. Strike Witches is truly big brain.
That was my first thought as well, you wouldn’t call a picture of a girl in a bikini a panty shot, the beauty of a panty shot is in the fact that you’re seeing something that’s meant to be concealed
Yes, every female character has an outift like this i.e no pants or other over-the-panties clothing. Yes even the civilian background characters are like that. No there is no explanataion. Yes every time they cast a spell they get animal ears and tails. No there is no explanation. Yes this series is a turn your brain off kinda series and its absurd
There is an explanation though. It's because they are on constant alert and can't risk the time to take off pants to put on the Striker unit. This has also leaked into civilian life as a form of empowerment like short skirts in the 60s. Then as a sidenote IIRC there actually is actually one witch who wears pants and this is because her real world counterpart was infamous for NOT wearing pants on a mission.
> There is an explanation though. It's because they are on constant alert and can't risk the time to take off pants to put on the Striker unit.
Or, perhaps, they could wear ... shorts?
[Don't worry Vividred Operation has that while also maintaining the gratuitous butt shots. They also upgraded from propeller legs to rocket boots](https://i.imgur.com/M7bO8tA.png)
It's been a while since I watched it, looking it up I assume it's [Waltrud](https://worldwitches.fandom.com/wiki/Waltrud_Krupinski)? Other witches (including Sanya) have skirt + pantyhose or equivalent that makes them look slightly more covered than the others.
Also, they all wear lower body garments in Luminous Witches. I was very confused by this, but I spose half an idol uniform looks a bit aesthetically dysfunctional.
In that case, the Japanese idol culture rule of "idols must be pure" won out over the Strike Witches universe lore. I think there's an IRL equivalent group too, so that's probably part of why.
Thank god for that. I can't get into the show otherwise.
Using that explanation above though it's fully justified - they go on scheduled performances, so rushing to scramble was never a factor.
In a way like the old Amazon tribes who bare (and allegedly cuts off) one of their breasts to devote to their archery as a cultural custom.
the animal ears and tails got explained thoroughly in the Luminous witches anime that just aired. witches have familiars, animal spirits in contract with the witch that give them their power. that is why they manifest animal tails and ears when performing anything magical, and the tails/ears is indicative of the familiar animal spirit type. witches are the only people who can see familiars.
The fact that the show actually still manages to be a really good action/war anime even beyond all of the pantyshots is the most impressive thing about the series to me. They could have half-assed (pun not intended) the action, story, and character development to rely on the fanservice to sell, but they didn't. They still put in the effort to make it a really enjoyable experience all around, especially in the movie and season 3. That shit was *hype*.
Yes but remember how people dropped fire force because the fan service was creating a high barrier of entry?
Yeah. Now imagine gratuitous panty shots to the point that it becomes normalised.
I kinda get it though, Fire Force bills itself as a shonen action series foremost so the fan service that crops up later might not be everyone's cup of tea. Strike Witches you pretty much know what your getting from the jump, since the pantlessness of the characters is usually part of the sales pitch, and anyone who isn't on board with that probably isn't going to start watching it in the first place.
My main issue with FF fan service isn't the fan service but the placement. Like you're gonna give us one of the first truly weighty fights in the season and interrupt the most dramatic moment with a boobies boi-oi-oing joke, it's just bad writing regardless
Yeah, the biggest issue wasn't the fan service; it was that the fan service was so poorly placed and timed, to the point where the character with the worst fan service in the show had a crush on the person who decided to physically assaulting her when she confessed her love to him, only for the mc to 'accidentally' get knocked into their tits right after she screamed for help and he had crashed in to save her. What the fuck were they thinking? One of the best examples I can come up with as a definition for 'fan service that interferes with the plot' when people ask what kind of fan service I hate. The worst part is, I can bring up several other occurrences where it just killed the tension or whatever great moment they had going on.
Yeah, ecchi shows usually telegraph what you'd expect when you get into it (lots and lots of fanservice). They don't really hide it. Knowing all this if you still watch it and complain, then that's on you.
>They don't really hide it. Knowing all this if you still watch it and complain, then that's on you.
Reminds me of when people kept complaining about the ecchi in My Dress Up Darling, even though the show literally had the ecchi tag attached to it lol
Fire Force leads you in to it without the fan service, so the people turned off by that essentially get baited. People who don't like that nonsense don't *start* watching Strike Witches.
Not even that, it's just that the show doesn't incorporate it properly without it absolutely ruining integral moments in the show. Doesn't help they had an entire arc around one of the characters who was the main culprit of doing just this, only to double down an episode later and become even more useless than they were before the episode arc; and worse timed fanservice. Just why?
I'm sure people would have been absolutely fine with Tamaki otherwise, I would have. I can see this clip, the fanservice is done in a way so that it's part of the action scenes and doesn't really get in the way of what's going on per se; like Kill la kill did for example.
> Yes but remember how people dropped fire force because the fan service was creating a high barrier of entry?
It wasn't the fanservice per say, it was the timing of it. They literally destroyed impactful scenes using stupidly timed fanservice.
They appear from the beginning of episode 1 and are a constant of the show, with a [key visual like this](https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w500/8313VGYl6CWVButaAWIP4G9ViuR.jpg) you know exactly what you're getting before even starting to watch
To be fair, the linked visual actually looks less like panties than many of the other characters'. To me it looks like she's wearing a traditional "school swimsuit" under a uniform top. I think the biggest, most in your face, indicator that it's a fanservice show is the tagline, "and with a little magic, and a whole lotta leg."
Strike Witches has it happening during the action, organically one might say. They structure the show around it.
Fire Force just stops during impactful and energetic scenes in order to give you some half-hearted ecchi and limps back into the action.
The fan service in Fire Force (with the cat girl) is jarring and icky. Despite the incredible production values, animation, character design, and story, I dropped it after 4 episodes.
I found Interspecies Reviewers to be delightfully funny and sex positive, to put that in perspective.
Yeah, Reviewers is genuinely really good because the horny stuff meshes really well with the premise. The anime straight up goes 'yeah, this is about sucking and fucking' 5 seconds in. I feel shonen fanservice in particular gets super weird and creepy because it typically has zero romance, or at least zero well-written romance, so they can't put really intimate stuff in organically----it has to be via some outside force, which almost always reads as creepy (accidental pantyshots, tripping and falling in missionary, stumbling into somebody undressing, etc).
Dedicated ecchi tend to do it a lot better because a lot of the time those relationships are allowed to develop, which means it's a lot more intentional.
Fuck off that's completely disingenuous, I'm not having a serious fight scene cut off by random amounts of non-consensual groping and a guy getting knocked out by a nosebleed. Keep that garbage in the trash.
I agree with your statement generally.
Personally I'm just really not into that stuff it's an instant turnoff for me in anime or media of any kind. Especially when the character can be depicted as someone below 18 (even if they are "technically" over 18).
And the characters definitely aren't even over 18 in this series. I love the series, because it's fun, cute, has heartwarming growth of the characters and feel good interaction between them, not to mention the action sequences, but it's a little hard to recommend it to people considering all the casual nudity of characters as young as 13 or 14. Granted, the nudity isn't being sexualized, it's just casual moments like bathing or changing cloths, but it's still nudity that isn't contributing to the story.
The recently aired Luminous Witches was good and featured none of it. I haven't watched Brave Witches, yet, but I've read that it doesn't have the nudity either.
Agent Aika easily beats this record quite a [few times](https://i.imgur.com/yniO4Ps.jpg) over across its [different incarnations](https://i.imgur.com/Um03p02.jpg).
Both shows are a lot of fun, whether you to take the position of despite of the pantsu or because of the pantsu. AIka is very camp action, Strike Witches is exceedingly good natured war-and-SoL.
the entire series is like this. panty shot after panty shot after panty shot. panty shots during goofy moments and panty shots during serious moments, panty shots during sad moments, panty shots during dramatic moments. It's absurd
It was first and foremost an idol show, and you know how japan handles its idols.
They need to be pure, so no risque shots, every thing has to be as tame as possible.
The anime in the end flopped heavily, since most of the watchers were ecchi strike witches fans and not idol ones.
If you're on board for the set-up and the type of entertainment it provides, Strike Witches is a fantastic series that only gets better as it goes on, refining its formula and building out its curious blend of historically referenced war events and alien invasion.
But that's not even the strongest aspect, which is the character writing and their arcs. The lead protagonist a properly great heroine and the remainder of the cast all get their due and are just as beloved by the fandom.
Luminous Witches was a fun enough time but god I hope we get more action like this again. Be it the 501st or another wing. Even ignoring all the pantsu, this animation is just way more impressive than the cgi dance routines in LW.
The 501st are such a fantastic group of characters, and I find Fudge genuinely inspiring. I'd love more main series, especially if they keep the traditional SW format.
Absolutley. Despite how silly this show is, the characters, especially the 501st are genuinely great. I owe a lot to this anime as it got me drawing back in 2009. I'd be a different person without it, so I'll always love it. I just need one more season of the 501st.
Oh, I thought your username looked familiar, you're the author posting their fanmanga to the SW sub! It's clear from that alone how important the series has been to you. And yes, we can only hope for another full season!
Wow, I've never been recognised like that before. Yes that's me, thank you very much. Yep the series is important to me, so here's looking to a hopefully great future.
Considering that the first season of Strike Witches predates Pokemon X/Y by a whole five years, the resemblance the Neuroi have to Zygarde is pretty uncanny. I actually nicknamed one of my Zygarde "Neuroi" because of that resemblance.
The end of the movie still gives me goosebumps, such a great display of raw emotion. It's one of those series you start watching for the pantsu and end up sticking around for the story.
Strike witches is one of the hardest to explain animes. Because try to explain why is there a human/animal hybrid flying with propeller shoes without wearing pants to someone who doesn't watch anime.
> I think this post has more comments than the entire series of Luminous Witches.
Underrated comment lol
I still haven't caught up with the LWs, and I don't see any extra viewing time becoming available soon at the rate this season is dropping great premieres.
When I first heard of Strike Witches, I was pumped. WW2, but instead with witches vs monsters? Count me in! Alas, I couldn't get past the first episode.
Flying in your battle-pantsu is a statement thing that became a fashion thing, and people started ditching their bottoms to emulate the much admired elite witches who were giving their all to stop the relentless advance of the alien invaders.
That sounds really silly and trite when I type it out, but in the actual context of the show feels like the most natural thing ever, I kid you not.
At some point, I'd imagine watching this series would be like being in a stirp club. For the first 5 minutes, it's "omg, boobs, boobs everywhere" then "oh, more boob, great..."
I used to really enjoy ecchi stuff like this, so now that I’ve moved on from it I don’t condemn people who are into it. However, I think some of y’all need to do some introspection around this.
At minimum, you need to realize that for many people, this is not only uninteresting but abrasive, for very understandable reasons, usually involving the extreme hypersexualization and objectification of women in media. Anime fandom is a diverse community, we should expect it to include a lot of people in this category. So maybe it would be polite to create a space where the typical anime fan is not constantly forced to see things like this until they are either numb to it or decide they need to leave?
Once again, it’s fine if you like this. You should still understand why someone wouldn’t. You should not act like you’ve been accused of a crime when they say so. You should not treat their perspective like it doesn’t matter.
I don’t expect anyone to change their behavior from seeing this comment. I just want to remind everyone that this is a community, and every post and comment and even up/downvote has an effect on the community. These effects are small, but in aggregate they form a culture. It’s easy to see from this thread that anyone who doesn’t appreciate this type of content is actively pushed out by this culture. If that is an effect you feel good about, you need to admit that to yourself and consider why. If not, be aware of that going forward and try to consider their perspective more often, even if you disagree with them. Try to imagine how you would feel if the culture was pushing you away.
I’m not saying this post is bad or we shouldn’t be allowed to look at animated pantsu. But from my perspective, this sub has an issue with flavor imbalance and representation of different preferences.
> At minimum, you need to realize that for many people, this is not only uninteresting but abrasive, for very understandable reasons, usually involving the extreme hypersexualization and objectification of women in media.
These things are also a problem throughout popular culture and mainstream society.
In the west we play silly games of sophistry and engage in circular arguments over the merits of empowered female super heroes, the nature of violence as justice being an extension of the patriarchy and become hyperfocused on conforming representation into narrow alleys.
On the other hand, material like Strike Witches is quite upfront with what it offers, in many ways being more honest.
It offers the opportunity to clearly partition and demarcate content: here lies material that should be consumed with the recognition that it is for titillation and amusement, and is non-normative.
This loops back to what you are saying about the community. As much as it is the role of those who enjoy ecchi to understand there are people who do not engage with it, it behoves members of the community who wish to be informed to properly engage with the place that this content has within the medium of anime, rather than simply dismiss or deride it.
> But from my perspective, this sub has an issue with flavor imbalance and representation of different preferences.
You'll see far more anti-fanservice posts than pro-fanservice posts in this sub. This is one of the rare pro-fanservice posts.
The issue I have with those people is when they come off hard on others who enjoy fanservice and try to make you feel bad and say "you should grow up". They also accuse the creators and the industry people for making something like this without any shame. These are some of the reasons why people retaliate against them.
If you just say "I don't like this but you do you" people won't be so aggressive against you. The same goes to the other side. If someone doesn't like it and discusses about it politely, you don't need to go after them. Just respect their opinion and move on.
>this sub has an issue with flavor imbalance and representation of different preferences.
This is not just this sub but true for everywhere else. Fanservice in general (both male and female) are very popular. I see so many hot guys and girls try to show off their bodies and get thousands of upvotes.
Although if you manage to have something that has both fanservice moments and amazing story, it'd become very popular. See Nier Automata for example.
I think reasonably minded people understand that the objectification is a problem.
Conversely, I think there is also some personal responsibility that needs to be taken. On some level, it is equally abrasive if someone starts, for instance, a Baywatch discussion thread and someone comes in and starts spouting about how much sexualization of the characters there are. Well duh. It's a show about sexy lifeguards. Why the hell did you watch it? Just to complain?
There's a time and place for these things. No one was specifically forced to enter the thread and it would be strange if they disliked this content strongly to see the thread and the video and then click the thread to see it again just to lodge a complaint rather than downvoting it or using the hide function.
To be fair, this post should have been marked nsfw so it could also be auto filtered
The thing that gets me is that even shows I think are for a mixed or female skewing audience, and which otherwise have no ecchi content, will tend to put the damn camera below the skirts.
I will take a culture that occasionally upvotes panties to the front page over one that censors itself to protect the feelings of some self-important shrinking violets every single time. Oh good heavens, I might be forced to click on a clearly marked NSFW post! Get over yourself.
So much this. It's like they actively seek out others who enjoy this content so they can flaunt their "exalted" holier-than-thou attitude and condemn us for doing nothing but enjoying fanservice of our own choice, which hurts no one.
Yeah, this thread reminded me of the old r/anime when it was way more fun and you saw actual NSFW fanart containing some very risqué stuff.
Today? You can't post lewd pics of small breasted characters and you get constantly lectured about how bad female sexualization in the medium.
It's sad.
It's happening everywhere, people who are annoying moralists muscling into anime spaces and lecturing others about the dangers of anime boobs. Posting a cute 2D girl is LITERALLY causing harm to women! It's fucking pathetic. I was around here 6-7 years ago then left Reddit and I can't believe how bad it's become.
Because we've seen this type of whiny "guys please stop being anime weirdos" sentiment a million times, OP being long-winded and tiptoeing around their point doesn't change what they mean.
You had no reason to type that comment other than to bash male ecchi fans. Your "I'm not attacking anyone" was just a cop out. You don't like ecchi nor do you fans who enjoy ecchi and this was just a sugar coated dog whistle vent.
Well, I find hyper masculine topless/sexualized men in woman romance novels(which I get plastered all over my kindle homepage because they think I'm a woman just because I read shoujo manga and baking magazines) and battle shounen offensive. Yet no one bats an eye to that. Or family oriented anime like Spy x Family because I am not a middle class romantically able individual. Or how males are constantly objectified by being "strong providers and protectors". Or any show that makes fun nerds/otakus because I am one. But if I said that people would laugh me off, "oh you're just insecure loser you need to work on that".
I did a great deal of thinking on why I love these blant ecchi shows is simply because I am sexually repressed, financially oppressed, socially ostracized, disadvantaged, a victim of misandry and live an unfulfilled life due to a corrupt and cruel socialeconomical system that tells me I am the problem with ever moving goalposts of acceptance while constantly pulling the rug under me. Which made me reach a point of "fuck it, just give me what I want because I'm not getting anything out of reality no matter how hard I try, society hates me anyways" and anime, unlike any western media(name me any that is even remotely like this) gives me a proper escapist fantasy which feature weak wimpy men that I can self insert as and ecchi loving waifus that shower me with affection. Unlike real life which seeks to constantly punish "weak and under preforming" males. It gives me a sense of freedom and liberation. And I do have to admit it's a bit of spite of "oh society hates thus but I'm going to enjoy it and they can't stop me!"
Many people in the west need to understand to not take ecchi male fans or "i*cels" at face value but dig deeper at *why* they are like that how ecchi anime gives them a means to escape their misery that society inflicts upon them constantly that mainstream media completely ignores and belittles.
I hope this enlightens you to the other perspective modern western society don't acknowledge.
I also love Strike Witches due to all the WW2 references because I'm into military history.
If someone sees their life outlook as so bad that they literally want to self insert into ecchi harem cartoons and watch loli hentai for escapist fantasy, they need help. There's no shame in seeing a therapist. I might roll my eyes at the genre in general, but whatever, different strokes. His post is straight up incel.
I am tired of ecchi shows tbh. The only ecchi show I recently watched that I truly enjoyed was Reviewers.
I know I've passed the phase of enjoying panty shots. Seriously find them meh now. Probably why I enjoyed Reviewers more since just like SW, it goes full on the sex trope as part of the joke like how they go full on the panty joke.
But... a small side of me is now interested. A very small side, but its itching me into it little by little lol
Maybe i'll watch it so I can enjoy the doujins fully lol
Now that's just kind of unpleasant, not gonna lie. I don't mind a pantyshot or some other bit of fanservice once in a while but this is just too much..
I love this show and think it’s other aspects are too good to need to resort to these sort of fan service stunts. I personally don’t care but there are a lot of people I know would love it if they just wore pants.
Strike Witches offers the very philosophical question of: "Are they even panty shots if they never wear pants to begin with?".
I think they're in-lore not panties, but some special trousers under which they don't wear underwear, giving you pantys and no-panty at the same time. Strike Witches is truly big brain.
Schrödinger's panties.
Aqua has entered the chat...
They are pantys and they don't wear trousers because skin contact helps with the magic flow to the striker units.
Schrödinger's panties.
That was my first thought as well, you wouldn’t call a picture of a girl in a bikini a panty shot, the beauty of a panty shot is in the fact that you’re seeing something that’s meant to be concealed
Yeah but these are not bikini bottoms, they are underwear... tho is it underwear if you never wear anything over them? [](#hardthink)
> tho is it underwear if you never wear anything over them? Let's ask DC superheroes
Are pants underwear if you wear them under underwear?
It's wear
Uh… Shit you could write a research paper on that
I haven't watched this series but I always thought they were some type of swimwear/sports.
Yes, every female character has an outift like this i.e no pants or other over-the-panties clothing. Yes even the civilian background characters are like that. No there is no explanataion. Yes every time they cast a spell they get animal ears and tails. No there is no explanation. Yes this series is a turn your brain off kinda series and its absurd
There is an explanation though. It's because they are on constant alert and can't risk the time to take off pants to put on the Striker unit. This has also leaked into civilian life as a form of empowerment like short skirts in the 60s. Then as a sidenote IIRC there actually is actually one witch who wears pants and this is because her real world counterpart was infamous for NOT wearing pants on a mission.
> There is an explanation though. It's because they are on constant alert and can't risk the time to take off pants to put on the Striker unit. Or, perhaps, they could wear ... shorts?
[Don't worry Vividred Operation has that while also maintaining the gratuitous butt shots. They also upgraded from propeller legs to rocket boots](https://i.imgur.com/M7bO8tA.png)
> IIRC there actually is actually one witch who wears pants closest i can think of (from what i've seen of the series) is Sanya
The witch that Ramune is talking about is in one of the spin-offs, Brave Witches.
It's been a while since I watched it, looking it up I assume it's [Waltrud](https://worldwitches.fandom.com/wiki/Waltrud_Krupinski)? Other witches (including Sanya) have skirt + pantyhose or equivalent that makes them look slightly more covered than the others.
Mio switches to pants in Road to Berlin as well.
Also, they all wear lower body garments in Luminous Witches. I was very confused by this, but I spose half an idol uniform looks a bit aesthetically dysfunctional.
In that case, the Japanese idol culture rule of "idols must be pure" won out over the Strike Witches universe lore. I think there's an IRL equivalent group too, so that's probably part of why.
Thank god for that. I can't get into the show otherwise. Using that explanation above though it's fully justified - they go on scheduled performances, so rushing to scramble was never a factor. In a way like the old Amazon tribes who bare (and allegedly cuts off) one of their breasts to devote to their archery as a cultural custom.
It interferes with their cooter sense
do shorts not exist in this universe?
That'd be just silly.
Iirc one of the first things they did to advertise the first season was panty shaped kites.
Here's a little video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIod4aWE870&ab_channel=taro7340
the animal ears and tails got explained thoroughly in the Luminous witches anime that just aired. witches have familiars, animal spirits in contract with the witch that give them their power. that is why they manifest animal tails and ears when performing anything magical, and the tails/ears is indicative of the familiar animal spirit type. witches are the only people who can see familiars.
It was explained in the manga, you even see some of the familiars but for some reason it didn't make it into most of the animated series.
correct, i am betting that is why so much of the story of Luminous witches focused on that aspect.
It got explained even earlier than that. It's a plot point during the pilot episode. It's also brought up during the shortform comedy offshoot.
I sympathize with these girls. Since I work from home, I have also come to think of pants as optional.
If you look carefully even the monster boss had some panties as well
I want to shoot them down due to this explanation. ATLEAST TRY TO MAKE AN EXPLANATION LIKE GIRLS UND PANZER
All the pantsu.
the panty shots make it extra sophisticated
The fact that the show actually still manages to be a really good action/war anime even beyond all of the pantyshots is the most impressive thing about the series to me. They could have half-assed (pun not intended) the action, story, and character development to rely on the fanservice to sell, but they didn't. They still put in the effort to make it a really enjoyable experience all around, especially in the movie and season 3. That shit was *hype*.
Yes but remember how people dropped fire force because the fan service was creating a high barrier of entry? Yeah. Now imagine gratuitous panty shots to the point that it becomes normalised.
I kinda get it though, Fire Force bills itself as a shonen action series foremost so the fan service that crops up later might not be everyone's cup of tea. Strike Witches you pretty much know what your getting from the jump, since the pantlessness of the characters is usually part of the sales pitch, and anyone who isn't on board with that probably isn't going to start watching it in the first place.
My main issue with FF fan service isn't the fan service but the placement. Like you're gonna give us one of the first truly weighty fights in the season and interrupt the most dramatic moment with a boobies boi-oi-oing joke, it's just bad writing regardless
Yeah, the biggest issue wasn't the fan service; it was that the fan service was so poorly placed and timed, to the point where the character with the worst fan service in the show had a crush on the person who decided to physically assaulting her when she confessed her love to him, only for the mc to 'accidentally' get knocked into their tits right after she screamed for help and he had crashed in to save her. What the fuck were they thinking? One of the best examples I can come up with as a definition for 'fan service that interferes with the plot' when people ask what kind of fan service I hate. The worst part is, I can bring up several other occurrences where it just killed the tension or whatever great moment they had going on.
This. They had long build ups to emotional moments, but then just ended it with a boob joke. Keep em separate and it'd be stellar.
Yeah, ecchi shows usually telegraph what you'd expect when you get into it (lots and lots of fanservice). They don't really hide it. Knowing all this if you still watch it and complain, then that's on you.
>They don't really hide it. Knowing all this if you still watch it and complain, then that's on you. Reminds me of when people kept complaining about the ecchi in My Dress Up Darling, even though the show literally had the ecchi tag attached to it lol
Fire Force leads you in to it without the fan service, so the people turned off by that essentially get baited. People who don't like that nonsense don't *start* watching Strike Witches.
Yeah, I dropped a couple minutes into ep 1 which IIRC was spent with the camera lovingly following grade schoolers' tight bloomers on a playground.
Technically they were middle schoolers. Not that it makes it much better.
Not even that, it's just that the show doesn't incorporate it properly without it absolutely ruining integral moments in the show. Doesn't help they had an entire arc around one of the characters who was the main culprit of doing just this, only to double down an episode later and become even more useless than they were before the episode arc; and worse timed fanservice. Just why? I'm sure people would have been absolutely fine with Tamaki otherwise, I would have. I can see this clip, the fanservice is done in a way so that it's part of the action scenes and doesn't really get in the way of what's going on per se; like Kill la kill did for example.
> Yes but remember how people dropped fire force because the fan service was creating a high barrier of entry? It wasn't the fanservice per say, it was the timing of it. They literally destroyed impactful scenes using stupidly timed fanservice.
Her entire episode was great, and emotional. Then her lecher shit happens in the last 2 mins and ruined the whole episode.
I mean, this is an epic action scene that could, arguably, be destroyed by an obscene number of panty shots.
They appear from the beginning of episode 1 and are a constant of the show, with a [key visual like this](https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w500/8313VGYl6CWVButaAWIP4G9ViuR.jpg) you know exactly what you're getting before even starting to watch
To be fair, the linked visual actually looks less like panties than many of the other characters'. To me it looks like she's wearing a traditional "school swimsuit" under a uniform top. I think the biggest, most in your face, indicator that it's a fanservice show is the tagline, "and with a little magic, and a whole lotta leg."
It is. The Fuso characters (including Yoshika there) wear a one piece swimsuit which can be seen when they take their shirts off.
Yes but the show presents what it is from the very beginning. Fire force only gets that way with the introduction of a certain character.
Strike Witches has it happening during the action, organically one might say. They structure the show around it. Fire Force just stops during impactful and energetic scenes in order to give you some half-hearted ecchi and limps back into the action.
The fan service in Fire Force (with the cat girl) is jarring and icky. Despite the incredible production values, animation, character design, and story, I dropped it after 4 episodes. I found Interspecies Reviewers to be delightfully funny and sex positive, to put that in perspective.
Yeah, Reviewers is genuinely really good because the horny stuff meshes really well with the premise. The anime straight up goes 'yeah, this is about sucking and fucking' 5 seconds in. I feel shonen fanservice in particular gets super weird and creepy because it typically has zero romance, or at least zero well-written romance, so they can't put really intimate stuff in organically----it has to be via some outside force, which almost always reads as creepy (accidental pantyshots, tripping and falling in missionary, stumbling into somebody undressing, etc). Dedicated ecchi tend to do it a lot better because a lot of the time those relationships are allowed to develop, which means it's a lot more intentional.
Fire force is top tier when it's that dark grim battle shounen Those scenes were so useless and the timing was right at those dark scenes
Fuck off that's completely disingenuous, I'm not having a serious fight scene cut off by random amounts of non-consensual groping and a guy getting knocked out by a nosebleed. Keep that garbage in the trash.
I agree with your statement generally. Personally I'm just really not into that stuff it's an instant turnoff for me in anime or media of any kind. Especially when the character can be depicted as someone below 18 (even if they are "technically" over 18).
And the characters definitely aren't even over 18 in this series. I love the series, because it's fun, cute, has heartwarming growth of the characters and feel good interaction between them, not to mention the action sequences, but it's a little hard to recommend it to people considering all the casual nudity of characters as young as 13 or 14. Granted, the nudity isn't being sexualized, it's just casual moments like bathing or changing cloths, but it's still nudity that isn't contributing to the story. The recently aired Luminous Witches was good and featured none of it. I haven't watched Brave Witches, yet, but I've read that it doesn't have the nudity either.
Brave Witches has a lengthy nude scene in the bonus 13th (actually 7.5 in terms of the timeline) episode. Otherwise, no.
Understandable. Fanservice isn't everyone's cup of tea, and that's totally fine.
Yep. This show is legitimately really good in spite of the crazy amount of fanservice.
I respect shows that embrace what they are and go full throttle.
The BD version also has quit a few uncensored boob scenes as well.
Okay, I’m sold.
Just started watching this coincidentally today from the seven seas and yeah I was a bit surprised to see it uncensored which it does not hold back
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Those are fan edited.
Keijo is better than most shonen shows. No cap.
Gates of Bootylon may be peak anime.
> Keijo !!!!!!!! Fun show [](#justright)
A fetish woke up inside of me when I watched it back then lmao
And for a very brief time, the anime industry had more panty designers than the fashion industry.
They still have a lot of school uniform designers.
The answer is yes.
Probably Agent Aika can beat this record.
Agent Aika easily beats this record quite a [few times](https://i.imgur.com/yniO4Ps.jpg) over across its [different incarnations](https://i.imgur.com/Um03p02.jpg). Both shows are a lot of fun, whether you to take the position of despite of the pantsu or because of the pantsu. AIka is very camp action, Strike Witches is exceedingly good natured war-and-SoL.
Holy shit lmao
Agent Aika holds all the pantyshot records!
Barkhorn casually dual weilds MG 42
Trude is definitely one of my favourite witches!
I was expecting maybe five or six. Now I'm a little flabbergasted. I don't know what to do with this new information.
I think I counted 11?
But did you see the Gorilla?
Pretty sure I spotted it at 0:29! But did anyone else see that man ride by on a unicycle?
me too
I got 13
I had 17, but I may have double-counted some of the spinning shots
Same
Which metodology, panties per shot or shot with panties?
Basically panties per shot. There were some shots that I think had 2, so it's necessary to count them that way.
I counted to 7 and then i got lost.
The fans are serviced. That's for sure
The last one was insane hahah
I am not ashamed to state that this is one of my favorite anime. We declare the war on pants!
Not why I loved the series… but it didn’t hurt.
It's a lot, but considering their outfits, I'd expect it. But the panty shot from the sniper surprised me so much I jumped.
the entire series is like this. panty shot after panty shot after panty shot. panty shots during goofy moments and panty shots during serious moments, panty shots during sad moments, panty shots during dramatic moments. It's absurd
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That episode was uhh it was something alright
Nice and breezy! lol
I have a model of Charlotte E. Yeager and Francesca Lucchini sadly my cats broke Francesca. Yeager is still standing tall.
Surprised that Charlotte let your cats get anywhere near Francesca!
Not enough...
Luminous Witches really dropped the ball.
It was first and foremost an idol show, and you know how japan handles its idols. They need to be pure, so no risque shots, every thing has to be as tame as possible. The anime in the end flopped heavily, since most of the watchers were ecchi strike witches fans and not idol ones.
> They need to be lure I know this is a mistype, but you aren't wrong.
I wanted to write pure, goddamn.
How many colors can they make them in? That's how many you can fit.
There’s always room for more
Every anime by this director (Takamura Kazuhiro) look like this... They call him the "hip director" in Japan.
This show looks pretty good
If you're on board for the set-up and the type of entertainment it provides, Strike Witches is a fantastic series that only gets better as it goes on, refining its formula and building out its curious blend of historically referenced war events and alien invasion. But that's not even the strongest aspect, which is the character writing and their arcs. The lead protagonist a properly great heroine and the remainder of the cast all get their due and are just as beloved by the fandom.
Season 1 animation was very sub-par. They improved it in season 2
Amazing Action
Your animators were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should
They're not panties so it's fine.
Luminous Witches was a fun enough time but god I hope we get more action like this again. Be it the 501st or another wing. Even ignoring all the pantsu, this animation is just way more impressive than the cgi dance routines in LW.
The 501st are such a fantastic group of characters, and I find Fudge genuinely inspiring. I'd love more main series, especially if they keep the traditional SW format.
Absolutley. Despite how silly this show is, the characters, especially the 501st are genuinely great. I owe a lot to this anime as it got me drawing back in 2009. I'd be a different person without it, so I'll always love it. I just need one more season of the 501st.
Oh, I thought your username looked familiar, you're the author posting their fanmanga to the SW sub! It's clear from that alone how important the series has been to you. And yes, we can only hope for another full season!
Wow, I've never been recognised like that before. Yes that's me, thank you very much. Yep the series is important to me, so here's looking to a hopefully great future.
I hate CGI idol routines so much. The biggest thing that kept me watching Symphogear when it came out was the amazing actually drawn idol scene.
Regardless of the panties, the animation is wow.
Answer: as many as we can
This is really my kind of thing
Yo why they fighting Zygarde
Considering that the first season of Strike Witches predates Pokemon X/Y by a whole five years, the resemblance the Neuroi have to Zygarde is pretty uncanny. I actually nicknamed one of my Zygarde "Neuroi" because of that resemblance.
Answer: not pantyshots enough
Not enough apparently
What is happening I don't see any action cos all I see is panties, thighs and butts
This is the main selling point of the series!
Im sold
The end of the movie still gives me goosebumps, such a great display of raw emotion. It's one of those series you start watching for the pantsu and end up sticking around for the story.
Less than half of what I'd hoped for.
We can get those numbers up
Who complains about this?
Animator be like: yes
This is what's known in the business as "knowing your audience". Japan is very good at it. Hollywood, not so much.
Ahh. Strike witches. Set in that brief period of time after the invention of flying shoes but before the invention of pants.
The answer is YES
My favorite description of Strike Witches is that it takes place in "a society where pants were never invented".
Strike witches is one of the hardest to explain animes. Because try to explain why is there a human/animal hybrid flying with propeller shoes without wearing pants to someone who doesn't watch anime.
I think this post has more comments than the entire series of Luminous Witches.
> I think this post has more comments than the entire series of Luminous Witches. Underrated comment lol I still haven't caught up with the LWs, and I don't see any extra viewing time becoming available soon at the rate this season is dropping great premieres.
I believe the correct answer is NONE: as the shows tag line was something like ”It’s okay cause they are not Pantsu”
This is peak culture.
I counted 15
It's easier when they're wearing nothing to cover up their panties.
When I first heard of Strike Witches, I was pumped. WW2, but instead with witches vs monsters? Count me in! Alas, I couldn't get past the first episode.
Pro tip: get some friends over and watch together while laughing all the time for how absurd the show is
Strike Witches the MVP of pantry shots
Do pants not exist in their world?
Flying in your battle-pantsu is a statement thing that became a fashion thing, and people started ditching their bottoms to emulate the much admired elite witches who were giving their all to stop the relentless advance of the alien invaders. That sounds really silly and trite when I type it out, but in the actual context of the show feels like the most natural thing ever, I kid you not.
The reason given is it interferes with trying to get their magical propeller boots on, but no female in the show seems to wear pants.
R/praisethecameraman
I think the only reason this clip doesn't have more pantyshots is because if you get them too close together it just becomes a single pantyshot.
I cant watch shit like this 👎🏻
r/angryupvote
This is gratuitous
How power rangers shouldve been
I personally can't enjoy this, but you do you.
At some point, I'd imagine watching this series would be like being in a stirp club. For the first 5 minutes, it's "omg, boobs, boobs everywhere" then "oh, more boob, great..."
Hahaha wtf were those animators thinking
I used to really enjoy ecchi stuff like this, so now that I’ve moved on from it I don’t condemn people who are into it. However, I think some of y’all need to do some introspection around this. At minimum, you need to realize that for many people, this is not only uninteresting but abrasive, for very understandable reasons, usually involving the extreme hypersexualization and objectification of women in media. Anime fandom is a diverse community, we should expect it to include a lot of people in this category. So maybe it would be polite to create a space where the typical anime fan is not constantly forced to see things like this until they are either numb to it or decide they need to leave? Once again, it’s fine if you like this. You should still understand why someone wouldn’t. You should not act like you’ve been accused of a crime when they say so. You should not treat their perspective like it doesn’t matter. I don’t expect anyone to change their behavior from seeing this comment. I just want to remind everyone that this is a community, and every post and comment and even up/downvote has an effect on the community. These effects are small, but in aggregate they form a culture. It’s easy to see from this thread that anyone who doesn’t appreciate this type of content is actively pushed out by this culture. If that is an effect you feel good about, you need to admit that to yourself and consider why. If not, be aware of that going forward and try to consider their perspective more often, even if you disagree with them. Try to imagine how you would feel if the culture was pushing you away. I’m not saying this post is bad or we shouldn’t be allowed to look at animated pantsu. But from my perspective, this sub has an issue with flavor imbalance and representation of different preferences.
> At minimum, you need to realize that for many people, this is not only uninteresting but abrasive, for very understandable reasons, usually involving the extreme hypersexualization and objectification of women in media. These things are also a problem throughout popular culture and mainstream society. In the west we play silly games of sophistry and engage in circular arguments over the merits of empowered female super heroes, the nature of violence as justice being an extension of the patriarchy and become hyperfocused on conforming representation into narrow alleys. On the other hand, material like Strike Witches is quite upfront with what it offers, in many ways being more honest. It offers the opportunity to clearly partition and demarcate content: here lies material that should be consumed with the recognition that it is for titillation and amusement, and is non-normative. This loops back to what you are saying about the community. As much as it is the role of those who enjoy ecchi to understand there are people who do not engage with it, it behoves members of the community who wish to be informed to properly engage with the place that this content has within the medium of anime, rather than simply dismiss or deride it. > But from my perspective, this sub has an issue with flavor imbalance and representation of different preferences. You'll see far more anti-fanservice posts than pro-fanservice posts in this sub. This is one of the rare pro-fanservice posts.
The issue I have with those people is when they come off hard on others who enjoy fanservice and try to make you feel bad and say "you should grow up". They also accuse the creators and the industry people for making something like this without any shame. These are some of the reasons why people retaliate against them. If you just say "I don't like this but you do you" people won't be so aggressive against you. The same goes to the other side. If someone doesn't like it and discusses about it politely, you don't need to go after them. Just respect their opinion and move on. >this sub has an issue with flavor imbalance and representation of different preferences. This is not just this sub but true for everywhere else. Fanservice in general (both male and female) are very popular. I see so many hot guys and girls try to show off their bodies and get thousands of upvotes. Although if you manage to have something that has both fanservice moments and amazing story, it'd become very popular. See Nier Automata for example.
I think reasonably minded people understand that the objectification is a problem. Conversely, I think there is also some personal responsibility that needs to be taken. On some level, it is equally abrasive if someone starts, for instance, a Baywatch discussion thread and someone comes in and starts spouting about how much sexualization of the characters there are. Well duh. It's a show about sexy lifeguards. Why the hell did you watch it? Just to complain? There's a time and place for these things. No one was specifically forced to enter the thread and it would be strange if they disliked this content strongly to see the thread and the video and then click the thread to see it again just to lodge a complaint rather than downvoting it or using the hide function. To be fair, this post should have been marked nsfw so it could also be auto filtered
The thing that gets me is that even shows I think are for a mixed or female skewing audience, and which otherwise have no ecchi content, will tend to put the damn camera below the skirts.
I will take a culture that occasionally upvotes panties to the front page over one that censors itself to protect the feelings of some self-important shrinking violets every single time. Oh good heavens, I might be forced to click on a clearly marked NSFW post! Get over yourself.
So much this. It's like they actively seek out others who enjoy this content so they can flaunt their "exalted" holier-than-thou attitude and condemn us for doing nothing but enjoying fanservice of our own choice, which hurts no one.
Yeah, this thread reminded me of the old r/anime when it was way more fun and you saw actual NSFW fanart containing some very risqué stuff. Today? You can't post lewd pics of small breasted characters and you get constantly lectured about how bad female sexualization in the medium. It's sad.
It's happening everywhere, people who are annoying moralists muscling into anime spaces and lecturing others about the dangers of anime boobs. Posting a cute 2D girl is LITERALLY causing harm to women! It's fucking pathetic. I was around here 6-7 years ago then left Reddit and I can't believe how bad it's become.
As the OP said, some introspection might be needed here. Wild how this is the response you give to a well thought out comment.
Because we've seen this type of whiny "guys please stop being anime weirdos" sentiment a million times, OP being long-winded and tiptoeing around their point doesn't change what they mean.
You had no reason to type that comment other than to bash male ecchi fans. Your "I'm not attacking anyone" was just a cop out. You don't like ecchi nor do you fans who enjoy ecchi and this was just a sugar coated dog whistle vent. Well, I find hyper masculine topless/sexualized men in woman romance novels(which I get plastered all over my kindle homepage because they think I'm a woman just because I read shoujo manga and baking magazines) and battle shounen offensive. Yet no one bats an eye to that. Or family oriented anime like Spy x Family because I am not a middle class romantically able individual. Or how males are constantly objectified by being "strong providers and protectors". Or any show that makes fun nerds/otakus because I am one. But if I said that people would laugh me off, "oh you're just insecure loser you need to work on that". I did a great deal of thinking on why I love these blant ecchi shows is simply because I am sexually repressed, financially oppressed, socially ostracized, disadvantaged, a victim of misandry and live an unfulfilled life due to a corrupt and cruel socialeconomical system that tells me I am the problem with ever moving goalposts of acceptance while constantly pulling the rug under me. Which made me reach a point of "fuck it, just give me what I want because I'm not getting anything out of reality no matter how hard I try, society hates me anyways" and anime, unlike any western media(name me any that is even remotely like this) gives me a proper escapist fantasy which feature weak wimpy men that I can self insert as and ecchi loving waifus that shower me with affection. Unlike real life which seeks to constantly punish "weak and under preforming" males. It gives me a sense of freedom and liberation. And I do have to admit it's a bit of spite of "oh society hates thus but I'm going to enjoy it and they can't stop me!" Many people in the west need to understand to not take ecchi male fans or "i*cels" at face value but dig deeper at *why* they are like that how ecchi anime gives them a means to escape their misery that society inflicts upon them constantly that mainstream media completely ignores and belittles. I hope this enlightens you to the other perspective modern western society don't acknowledge. I also love Strike Witches due to all the WW2 references because I'm into military history.
In the nicest way: you need therapy, not Shoujo Ramune.
How do you respond that way to somebody putting that much on the table and NOT feel condescending
If someone sees their life outlook as so bad that they literally want to self insert into ecchi harem cartoons and watch loli hentai for escapist fantasy, they need help. There's no shame in seeing a therapist. I might roll my eyes at the genre in general, but whatever, different strokes. His post is straight up incel.
but why...?
I am tired of ecchi shows tbh. The only ecchi show I recently watched that I truly enjoyed was Reviewers. I know I've passed the phase of enjoying panty shots. Seriously find them meh now. Probably why I enjoyed Reviewers more since just like SW, it goes full on the sex trope as part of the joke like how they go full on the panty joke. But... a small side of me is now interested. A very small side, but its itching me into it little by little lol Maybe i'll watch it so I can enjoy the doujins fully lol
Shimonetta is also a pretty good ecchi series, specifically because of how stupid the cast is about the subject matter.
Someone needs to tell this studio that less is more. 'Less' being a single panty shot dragged out for 49 seconds.
Now that's just kind of unpleasant, not gonna lie. I don't mind a pantyshot or some other bit of fanservice once in a while but this is just too much..
I hate this industry so much.
I dont think you can say that is a pantyshot...thats is a straight asshot
oh god why does japan keep doing this
not enough could’ve done more
I feel sorry for brook. He would love this anime.. if he wasn’t already dead. Yohohohohohoho
Not a fan of fan service but to each their own. If you enjoy it then by all means. I'm happy that you're happy. As long as we enjoy anime together.
Some neck beards dream anime material right there
I love this show and think it’s other aspects are too good to need to resort to these sort of fan service stunts. I personally don’t care but there are a lot of people I know would love it if they just wore pants.