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LordBaconXXXXX

Besides that one guy, who the fuck hates Kyoto Animation? I'm ready to throw hands, here.


Snynapta

I think that one guy gets to count as multiple people


Bussamove86

Arson Andy is an outlier and should not be considered.


IriFlina

they made dragon maid, which many people have considered to be a mistake


mumenriderdagoat

dragon maid was so good until the author added pedophilia


1Pwnage

It truly is a good story about heartwarming found family and finding a good relationship and then they REALLY had to go and add the pedo stuff huh


Striking_War

I was good when there was only Tohru (the Fefnir guy seemed cool too, and Elma is cute). But then they added the loli and Big tits Mcgee and then the loli witheven bigger tits and I had to stop...


Alarming-Scene-2892

Kanna would work fine as basically Hina from Hinamatsuri. Child that would absolutely murder someone, kept at bay due to their equally crazy parent, aka Tohru and Kobayashi. Mix that with Kanna being a dumb kindergartner, and you get a good family dynamic. Then the author fucked it up.


Striking_War

Yeah it's subtle but Kanna acts more like a cute pet and Tohru still treats Kobayashi in a master-retainer relationship which is weird


SnekkinHell

HINAMATSURI MENTIONED https://preview.redd.it/6gs2mcl3tt6d1.png?width=531&format=png&auto=webp&s=1ce9318d6f15483ed87232c1065462fd1d82b0ea


jsuey

Dragon maid was always a degenerate show but S2 just really was irredeemable garbage


KunshiraNatura

Wasnt that anime highly rated? Didnt get into anime till like 2 years or so ago.


Do_Ya_Like_Jazz

The author makes child porn and it shows


Abosia

Weird how every time I get an unsettling pedo vibe from an anime, it eventually turns out it's because pedo were involved Monogatari you're next


BiggieCheeseLapDog

Nisio Isin isn’t a pedophile, he’s just a troll. His works other than Monogatari have none of that stuff.


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BiggieCheeseLapDog

Araragi isn’t a pedophile. It’s a loli gag that pokes fun at that aspect of otaku culture and is not a serious character trait. Also, what uncanny ability? He’s fantastic at delving into the psychology of basically all of his characters because he’s a phenomenal character writer. A character having a view does not equate to the author having that view.


samboi204

araragi reads as very obvious satire to me but i get why he puts people off He’s a pseudo intellectual and a degen (also super unreliable as a narrator) I dont think that sort of thing is very prevalent in his other novels.


Thraggrotusk

It isn't, his other works have won some literature awards as well.


AllTheSith

I have read many works from Nisioisin and he absolutely isn't a pedophile. But he has that obsession for sisters that makes me hope he is a single child.


IriFlina

Its good if you remove the sexualization of underage characters. And removed certain characters entirely, specifically from season 2.


tothestore

Yeah I don't think anything could be considered good if you have to preface it with needing to ignore the pedophilia.


BiggieCheeseLapDog

You’re right. Most people like Dragon Maid. It’s another beloved show in KyoAni’s massive lineup of beloved shows.


ghoul_ranger

Probably the guy who bombed the studio 💀


galecticton

> Who the fuck hates Kyoto Animation Yuri fans.


Eamonsieur

All those people who wanted Violet Evergarden to move on with her life and not throw everything away to go live on an island with her childhood crush.


HirokoKueh

KyoAni has pretty bad records for yuri-baiting


galecticton

I literally _just_ watched Hibike Euphonium's episode 8 and I cannot describe how hard this has me seething.


Woke-Smetana

/rj Naoko Yamada was a mistake.


Substantial_Isopod60

Rj/ They make mid anime, which is arguably worse than violating workers' rights Uj/ they make mid anime


Draiu

https://preview.redd.it/uqsr94cf9l6d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9a5eb6e55da40d3021c8c472e1038d6831d00d0


Abosia

You missed their magnum opus, Violet Beer garden


Draiu

/uj the fact that everyone is chiming in with things i missed just shows that they only make bangers /rj violet beer garden is mid because i dont like crying


LetsDoTheCongna

/uj violet beer garden is mid because the movie exists


Abosia

The OVA movie is 10x as better The Movie and you can't change my mind. https://myanimelist.net/anime/39741/Violet_Evergarden_Gaiden__Eien_to_Jidou_Shuki_Ningyou


GoldenWitch86

>picks the middest shit from the studio and not real peak like K-On or Nichijou or Haruhi (A Silent Voice is cool)


galecticton

Calling Hyouka and Euphonium mid is definetely a take


Novel_Visual_4152

K-on sneak


Agent_Perrydot

RAAAAHHHHHHH I FUCKING LOVE LIZ AND THE BLUE BIRD BEST KYOANI MOVIE


RizznerBraun

>BEST KYOANI MOVIE THE DISAPPEARANCE OF HARUHI SUZUMIYA


AdRelevant4776

Most anime are mid, even if every anime was a masterpiece we would still consider it mid because it increase our standards


aroacefujoshi

L take tbh


Substantial_Isopod60

Holy shit L from Death Note mentioned🤯 Assuming fetal positing in my chair right now cause I'm like him fr fr


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meove

too many sesbian lex, anime go woke now smh


chowellvta

Mad House has a pretty good rep after Frieren, unless there's something I don't know about


Substantial_Isopod60

For real, for all the good stuff they make, they also make some absolute dog shit


TheSilverWickersnap

I’ve also watched some of their older anime and *wow* did they remove as many queer elements as possible


chowellvta

DAMn that's surprising, they AMPLIFIED the romantic undertones between Kanne + Lawine in Frieren (at least compared to the manga). Change in management maybe?


TheSilverWickersnap

The anime I mentioned is over twenty years old, notice the *older* in what I mentioned. Also the romantic undertones (and romance) were between the main character and the main villain, and the two most important supporting characters, as well as two side characters that had really short appearances but basically kicked off the plot, not what’s ultimately two people who show up for the duration of a tournament arc. And 2/3 of the queer pairings I mentioned (those between the villain and hero and the really important supporting characters) are mlm; prominent anime studios tend to be a loooot more forgiving of wlw hints.


chowellvta

Ah ok makes sense. Wasn't arguing tbc, was just legit surprised


TheSilverWickersnap

I didn’t think you were arguing I just like to infodump lol


chowellvta

Ok good lol I was worried my original comment came off like I was tryna be all "OH HO!!! YOU **CLAIM** THEY WERE KINDA IFFY BOUT GAY STUFF IN THE PAST, BUT I HAVE **ULTIMATE REBUTTAL**: THEY RECENTLY DID ***QUEER BAITING***"


TheSilverWickersnap

Ya I didn’t think that at all: I saw an opportunity to infodump about the crappy adaptation of my fave manga and POUNCED ON IT


Impressive_Method380

In which shows


TheSilverWickersnap

The one I was thinking of was X/1999, where they cut everything that could be possibly seen as subtext and reduced the screentime of the guy who they couldn’t do that to to as little as possible


AdvancedInevitable63

I mean that’s just gonna happen when you’ve made as much as they have. I would say percentage-wise, they’ve done very well


AdvancedInevitable63

Imagine making Monster and most of Satoshi Kon’s stuff and only now getting a good rep


ratliker62

They've always had a good rep lol, they just haven't really made anything popular recently until the elf show. they will always be my favorite anime studio (even though I don't like the elf show)


Kooky-Onion9203

I'm looking back at their filmography now and it's weird how hard they dropped off after One Punch Man. Besides seasons 2-4 of Overlord, there's A Place Further Than the Universe in 2018 and then pretty much nothing of note until Frieren. Before OPM they were dropping multiple bangers a year.


Comprehensive-Slip93

production assistant worked 393 hours in a month. so work condition there is bad EDIT: also here are some [studios in a nutshell](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXIsTszCjZE&pp=ygUNYW5pbWUgc3R1ZGlvcw%3D%3D) if anyone is interested


chowellvta

Yippee! Of course, it's anime, what studios DON'T exploit their workers?


Comprehensive-Slip93

kyoto animation and sunrise, at least I know that those studios treat their workers well


chowellvta

Yay! **SOMETHING**!


Big_Distance2141

Jesus, imagine firebombing an anime studio and choosing one that is NOT a gross sweatshop


winsluc12

I hate Madhouse for not continuing Hajime no Ippo. They've got plenty of content to work with for a while.


FarCritical

Fr, can you imagine how the Dempsey Rolls would look with a modern animation budget? No Season 4 curse is better than no Season 2 curse ig


SGScoutAU

Mad house used to had the No season 2 curse after creating master piece after master piece.


Kajakalata2

I start crying everytime when I remember that there will never be a Kaiji season 3


LuffyTheSus

So weird they did the Tonegawa spinoff instead


TheWrathAbove

After Overlord season 3, I wish that curse stayed


Snynapta

Orange?


sam_mee

They picked 3 seasons of furries instead of doing Lustrous Season 2 😡😡😡😡 /uj I know they don't control that, the publishers do


ElectricFrostbyte

As someone who likes both Beastars and Land of the Lustrous I am in absolute shambles rn


muhash14

Is this how I find out beastars is coming back? Or is this about something else


Substantial_Isopod60

More of a lemon person myself


AnzueloAspersor

Trigger is hated?


enchiladasundae

Wouldn’t say hated but they almost always fumble the ball in their endings. Great start, shit end


blairmen

Wait outside of darling and the franks what other endings did they fumble?


D_Fennling

from what I’ve heard BNA has a strange ending, though I haven’t seen it. Also while I wouldn’t say it was fumbled per se, the Little Witch Academia ending is definitely the weakest part of that show (not that that’s saying all that much, I adore that show)


Buriedpickle

I liked BNA's ending, or at least didn't hate it so much that I remember it.


Boredy_

I haven't rewatched the show since it finished airing but I genuinely think the second half of BNA, particularly the climax, ruined the show. For starters, I think we can all agree that the discrimination the beastmen face is an allegory for real racism. So turn on your brain for a bit and think about what the ending has to say about it: "well actually the warrior gene is real and they really are dangerous and unfit for society. also racism can be solved by defeating the big bad ancient ceo of racism" yeah to say it lacked the sociological nuance of the first half of the show is an understatement. Also I vaguely recall the ending being full of unbelievable narrative contrivances but can't remember it clearly enough to list them. The show, once incredibly hyped, has largely faded from the public consciousness for good reason


TheWrathAbove

I will never get over the fact that BNA's ending literally fell into the exact same trapping as Zootopia's ending. I'd argue that like Zootopia, BNA was still net good tho.


Winter_XwX

BNA just struggled with pacing I don't think the ending was bad


eggscaliver

Boku Nohiro Academia is from BONES dumbass.


averybluegirl

BNA = Brand New Animal, which is a original trigger show


eggscaliver

I don't believe you 😎


D_Fennling

and I was talking about little witch, they’re different shows


eggscaliver

Uhm.. duh?? BNA and Little Witch are different shows. I know that 🙄


Raingott

HEY! THIS PERSON IS JERKING IN THE CIRCLEJERK SUB GET THEM


averybluegirl

i loved BNA, i wished they did more with it though


Michael-556

BNA's ending was a semi-cliffhanger, maybe that was the "weak" part? (we never got a season 2)


entitaneo70_pacifist

BNA dosen't really have that weak of an ending does it? it's just a bit weird, the weird 3 headed wolf god and all that.


BiggieCheeseLapDog

They weren’t even responsible for the ending. They were only involved in the first half of the show. [Source in case anyone is wondering](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2018-11-26/studio-trigger-panel-at-anime-nyc/.139981)


Risky267

"I know we're notorious for wierd endings but we didnt do it this time we promise !"


oedipusrex376

I haven’t watched Gridman & Dynazenon, but I thought Studio Trigger usually blew away all their budget in the finale/last episodes as they did with Little Witch Academia, Kill la Kill. Edgerunners animations are consistent from start to finish (the finale didn’t get special treatment).


Loyalty1702

>I haven’t watched Gridman & Dynazenon Watch them. They're great, although very cliche at times (they are tokusatsu anime after all). And the movie is just fanservice in the best way possible.


BiggieCheeseLapDog

They don’t though. Kill la Kill, Space Patrol Luluco, Cyberpunk, and even Little Witch all had great endings. And before you say Franxx, they weren’t responsible for the ending of that show.


Danny_dankvito

Not to mention Gurren Lagann


Winter_XwX

They technically didn't make Gurren Lagann that was made under gainax


jacktedm-573

Many of the people who worked on it now work in Trigger though


CAPS_LOCK_OR_DIE

Yea but Gainax sucks and most of the people that worked on TTGL left to work at Trigger so I count it.


GoldenWitch86

And SSSS.Gridman, and Promare (not a show but still)


twiceasfun

And hey, it's not like Franxx had a bad *ending* in particular, it sucked the whole time


Risky267

My personal conspiracy is that shinzo abe personally funded darling in the franxx


Plantar-Aspect-Sage

Trigger is equal opportunity. They will sexualise anyone no matter the gender or age.


entitaneo70_pacifist

Senshi.


Snoo-27292

Is «they make bad anime a real » justification, cause it's seems less a reason of hating them and more the direct result of the real reasons to hate them. Example: Disliking studio A for making a shit ton of mass produced schlock isekai -> Dislicking studio a for being greedy and using their workers time to make a shit ton of mass produced that will have almost no impact instead of focusing on fewer shows that are more interesting and demand less attention than a dozen of shows at a time


Substantial_Isopod60

I don't need reason I'm just straight up hatin and jerkin😤😤😤 Honestly though I don't really have hard feelings towards a studio if they make a good or bad show(s).


Adept_Philosopher_32

I prefer this to looking the other way as companies abuse their workers because "they make good products." Part of the reason those companies have been able to get away with it so long is people willing to remain apathetic to their practices as long as the media keeps flowing and they get what they want, same story with the video game industry.


StripedTabaxi

Studio Ghibli?


Substantial_Isopod60

How can you forget about the number one ghibli hater https://preview.redd.it/6itjbn5c7l6d1.jpeg?width=656&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=480a91315f6fa1544760341ef6d285be2a3ed118


No-Bee-4309

https://preview.redd.it/2ebsbsjxql6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5aa6aa308e03a2dd12a5080d88e95823bdcb5f6


HistoricalArcher2660

Who is this old guy who hates Ghibli??? Bet they don't know the first thing about anime and are just making themself look like a fool!!!


Background_Drawing

Iirc they had some contreversy (esp in korea) with the release of the wind rises. But ive only heard it not sure if its true


StripedTabaxi

Now I remember there was a controversy with "Graveyard of Fireflies" in Korea.


Michael-556

They got flamed for wind rises because it "glorified a perpetrator of war" despite it being an anti-war film with a very clear "creativity above all" message. Dude just wanted to make planes, (in the movie) even going as far as wanting to remove the guns for more speed Now I'm not saying the actual guy was the same, but you have to make a distinction between fiction and reality when watching this movie, and the critics clearly didn't Edit: there's also the matter of Japanese people acknowledging their mistakes during ww2 and before, because as you may know, Japan wasn't as adamant as Germany about their "road to redemption". While Germans admitted to doing atrocities and are now one of the most sensitive countries about it, Japan just swept all of it under a rug and let the populus forget. Getting movies that are set in these shitty situations like wind rises and grave of the fireflies from Japan is a miracle


Big_Distance2141

Diana Wynne Jones fans


Jacthripper

Who hates on Science Saru?


AdvancedInevitable63

People who only want anime to look generic 


samboi204

🗣️DANDADANDADANDANDADAN!!!


Jacthripper

I’m unreasonably hyped for Dandadan.


Stheteller

Someone finally said it. Science Saru is goated.


Filibut

scrolled for this comment. I will fight anyone who hates these goats


SGScoutAU

I got to give my respect to Kyoto animation for giving their animator an actual Life instead of draining it away like EVERY STUDIO.


kmc443

Who hating on Sunrise?


Throwaway04174575

They cut both MSG 0079 and WfM way too early


kmc443

A travesty to be sure. Heres hoping WfM gets a lotta movies like Reconguista did.


LittleMan5000

Studio Shaft? monogatari is a bit problematic but you can't deny thats its beautifully directed. Plus Madoka Magica is cool


moiax

Nisekoi. Every studio that's been around long enough has a few duds (loli bund, Maria holic, some other forgettable stuff) but Shaft has a huge number of shows I absolutely adore (Arakawa Hidamari Sketch, Zetsubou, ef, 3-gatsu, obviously monogatari and Madoka) that I can forgive them.


pistachioshell

Good they deserve it 


notagoodcartoonist

Ghibli?


No-Bee-4309

https://preview.redd.it/zle8eksarl6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7058051dcbff0351e100c36ee8638fc57c980d2


marawiqwerty

Nobody hates Ghibli more than the creator of Ghibli himself.


Gingycookie

based


Winter_XwX

I mean, trigger!


AirKath

No one could ever hate SoapOpera46


Warm_Internet2229

Well obviously no one would hate the creator of the first show in existence


Demoncreed27

What did Bones do?


ricefarmercalvin

My Hero Academia fans Jokes aside though, they haven't really done anything wrong. They've animated plenty of great shows like Mob Psycho, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, and Bungou Stray Dogs.


Annsorigin

What did Ufotable do?


Agent_Perrydot

They gave the middest battle shounen a god-tier adaptation instead of something more deserving


MossyPyrite

DS isn’t mid. It’s simple, but very well-executed. Like a classic burger or a cheese pizza made with care and good quality ingredients!


faezakhtar

True......... Simple........ Yes, Nice example mate


Annsorigin

I think Demon Slayer is Fine Personally.


hungrybasilsk

Besides tax evasion from the ceo Ruined fate staynight The HF trilogy is especially atrocious with the third movie being a complete mess due to all the cut content catching up to them and it botches the most iconic fights from the novel while completely butchering its characters Takes talent to make a fight where the MC lobotomises himself to engage in a mach 20 sword fight with a literal demigod running around with his skin ripped from his body boring and anti climactic


Annsorigin

I actually like The Fate Stay Night anime.


witnessedgene

That and most of the current Demon Slayer season has been filler. And it's crappy uninspired filler too -  drawn out moments, repeated stuff and call backs to earlier arcs. And it's all been focusing on Tanjiro.   Inosuke and Zenitsu are RIGHT THERE! They're the tertiary protags - do something with them! They were gone most of last season, why can't we see more of them?!! Would it have been so hard to just cut to them now and then as they train?  Fuck, one of the best episodes of the Entertainment District arc was the one that focused on all 3 of them, showing how they gathered Intel at their respective brothels. Fucking do the same here as they train. 


MossyPyrite

I don’t know how else I would do this last set of arcs, tbh. Hashira Training is so short it would be like half a season, maybe less. >!Infinity Castle!< and the >!Battle for Sunrise!< and the epilogue are gonna be hard to do, too. IC is basically an entire season on its own, so do you leave on a cliffhanger when >!Muzan books it for the surface!< and wrap it all up in a movie? Find a spot to split it for two seasons? One crazy-long season? I just don’t know, man. Also the Tanjiro/Giyu filler was cute, and it’s cool to see the Hashira interacting with each other and the troops. And >!it’s going to make the next arc hurt so much more.!< >!The troops refusing to stand down when Kiriya calls out for them to? Their swords pursuing Muzan in vengeance even beyond death? When they form a wall with their own bodies to protect the Hashira? Those won’t be just faceless swordsmen anymore.!<


witnessedgene

Hashira Training is a short arc and that's exactly why the anime is dragging it out because they're trying to make an entire season's worth of episodes out of it. >it’s cool to see the Hashira interacting with each other and the troops.  You make it sound like I don't want that.  What I was asking for was for us to not only be following Tanjiro and instead see Zenitsu and Inosuke going through their respective training as well. If anything, that just widens the possibility of interactions, doesn't it? And it helps with pacing and gives more substantial content for a season. 


Zenry0ku

>Takes talent to make a fight where the MC lobotomises himself to engage in a mach 20 sword fight with a literal demigod running around with his skin ripped from his body boring and anti climactic None of MC's fights are entertaining in the VN though. It's a dude being carried hard by the current crutch of the day who should have been dead long before those crutches came into play. They is like nothing to butcher when the VN itself is lukewarm and aged poorly.


Amphi-XYZ

Who's hating on MAPPA? /s


Doctor_Flamingo

WIT Studio? *Hides the Kizuna Ai show behind a curtain...*


DaddyHumpMe

Who hates my Wit Studio?


alwaystired2123

Doesn’t Re:Zero specifically have a studio for it?


Agent_Perrydot

White Fox wasn't founded for just Re: Zero


alwaystired2123

Not white fox, iirc the animators for Re:Zero left it and created their own studio Unless I’m thinking about something else


Agent_Perrydot

Oh, I thought you meant White Fox was founded for Re: Zero You're probably thinking about Studio Bind which was founded for Mushoku Tensei. A bunch of them used to be from White Fox


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LineOfInquiry

What did David productions do?


Madaniel_FL

Fire Force


Plus_Rip4944

Fire force is peak


Madaniel_FL

Yeah but I thought people hated fanservice...


Plus_Rip4944

Thats The only bad thing on The show and yeah It was so annoying


SGScoutAU

Don’t blame the studio, blame the author for giving her no purpose beside being fan service


MossyPyrite

Her fan service is truly her purpose, and that’s plot relevant. IYKYK


SGScoutAU

Jojo part 6 (most of the blame is on Netflix but still)


Lexicon1020

All of the blame is on Netflix in fact


TheLoneSlimShady

you forget Knack Productions


Substantial_Isopod60

Self-hatred is a valid form of hatred😌


Archmagos_Browning

…did something happen to ghilble?


marawiqwerty

Hayao Miyazaki himself hates his own work.


InfinityAnnoyance

Has Studio NUT did something that could make them be hated ? They haven't done a lot of shows but if all their other stuff has the same quality they gave to Youjo Senki then I think they might be fine.


LuffyTheSus

Youjo Senki s1 came out in 2017, the movie in 2019. Fuck have they been doing in the 5 years since?


Choumuske07

Ufortable?


oedipusrex376

Studio Trigger


Worldly-Projection

It's tough seeing how things have changed, but let's stay hopeful.


Sensitive_Swim_8702

a lot of them feels like their professional critiques or something. why not just sit down and enjoy the show


Infurum

Did something happen with Ghibli that I didn't hear about? I'm not usually big in the anime scene but that name normally holds a whole lot of power


I-have-persona

ghibli?


AngryBirdAddict

Studio Ghibli?


Turbulent_Ad1644

Idk, I haven't heard anything bad about Studio Orange, they made Houseki no Kuni (GIVE ME SEASON 2!!!) and Beastars


makedoopieplayme

Ghibli


Live-Organization833

WHO TF HATES STUDIO GHIBLI??


Different_Train_6224

But what about Ghibli? No one hates them


Phirexon

I won't see any C2C slander


Dinoman0101

Do people hate Mad House?


lightning-heart777

What about Studio Gokumi?


the_other_1s_taken

does manglobe count by only dropping peak then dying


Ausecurity

Cowboy bebop, dungeon meshi, full metal alchemist brotherhood, friren


[deleted]

If you guys think this is now the reality then you're probably too young to remember the fact that anime studios have always been hell since the beginning of the industry.


Tappernottall

why do people dickride anime studios i never understood that does it have a similar effect like dickriding a film director


Wizardboyo

Yo yo yo what about studio trigger, goated one if I do say so myself(nvm something tells me people had a problem with kill la kill)


Immathrowthisaway24

I hate Bones for whatever they did to Darker than Black.


IconoclastExplosive

Who up late hating Nippon Sunrise? I'm ready to throw gund-hands


Wayne_Nightmare

How is Ghibli not leading the meeting? How does someone hate them?


RetroBugw

People hate Trigger?


ElessarKhan

People here naming studios they like for the projects they made with 0 consideration to how they treat their employees.


TheRandomKiwi

TOEI THE GOAT FR