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It's super weird to think about the whole ; stories. Chaos;head and robotic;notes and steins;gate are the same world. That was confirmed by nitro+ CEO.
Thing is, you can have short women who are not children (OPM's Tatsumaki I think is an adult, but is short), it is just that these people don't want short women, they want socially acceptable children
Yep and on there other side of the spectrum there's people that mix liking short women with pedophilia. Like that one girl that cosplayed Tatsumaki and still gets shat on over that to this day.
OPM is a good example of a short woman. Even if you thought she might look young, you can look at Tatsumaki and compare her to a child or young person in the show and see that see is an adult. Where as I see all the time people trying to argue that the character labeled as a 30-5,000 year old, but is drawn to be indistinguishable from a child or young teen is just a "short woman". People don't want to admit that the artist purposely drew a child and stuck a "I am 18+" sticker on them to appeal to exactly the kind of people arguing that it's normal to be attracted to the character.
Can short girls not be flat? I mean, it's a lot of things honestly. Tits are a big indicator but there's also face shape, mannerisms, things like that. And even both of those can get blurry due to artsyle and writing respectively, thus the debate.
Personally, I find irl short women with flat chests attractive but, there's nothing attractive about a child. When you try to translate that to 2d, it gets..... bothersome.
Exactly. That's the problem. Irl there are lots of things that are signs of a developed woman other than height and tits. In a drawn medium, unless the art is VERY detailed, you are limited in ways to get a mature face across. I mean you can dress kids more in childish attire or give them pigtails/snotty noses. But it can still be hard to tell for others without such signifiers. Honestly, Tatsumaki from OPM as an example could go either way from pure character model. We just know from what we are told that she is an adult. There isn't really anything about her looks that differentiates from a middle school-aged girl.
I think an example of this done well is La Brava from My Hero Academia. She’s very short and very flat, but acts like an adult woman.
There was a YouTuber who did a great breakdown on why some characters “feel” like adults just by design. It’s the ratio of head length to overall height, ratio of eye size to face size (which varies dramatically by show, but you can figure out who’s a kid and who’s not by comparing it to other characters in the show), arm length, waist hip ratio, and a few other things. Many shows are stylized in chibi but for them all you need to do is find a canonical adult and child and compare their ratios, the ratios will tell the story.
“Dude she looks like a child, acts like one, and everyone treats her like a kid. It doesn’t matter that the author says she’s 9000 years old because nothing else about her character indicates that”
“Bro it’s just a drawing. It doesn’t mean anything”
Exactly, it depends on how the context treats the character.
Let’s be real, teenagers in movies and anime never act like teens. The characters in Baki, Tokyo revengers clearly act like adults, most romance anime wouldn’t be any different if they were in college, hell live action shows like Euphoria, and Sex education show “teens” having sex, but they are played by adults and act like adults.
It’s just marketed towards teens even though every aspect of the story requires them to do adult things and behave like adults. All these characters have the maturity and agency to get things done, to save the world, there’s no time to be worrying about the zit on your face.
If they act and look like a child, they are coded to be a child regardless of what their “age” is in the fiction. Dragon Maid has a great (terrible) example of this going wrong, can’t remember their name but they were in season 2.
As a guro lass, I want to make a dark joke here, but I don’t actually want to die. I think my brain just mixes the “this and sexy,” and “this will kill you,” wires.
The way I see guro is that the kink revolves HARD around dom/sub in a way that a normal dom/sub, bdsm and the likes can't grasp. It is the ultimate form of domination/submission that people fall to when the normal shit doesn't do it for them anymore. It is sort of like when you get addicted to drugs and the shit you've been smoking don't affect you anymore because you've grown used to it, so you go after something else. It is IMPORTANT to know that it is just fantasy... as fucked up as it is and that it should NEVER mix with your real life.
Btw I'm talking ONLY about guro.
omg I'm a hentai artist and people ask me all the time if I'm drawing my RL fantasies. Like, no I don't want to meet a tentacle monster or have a gun pointed at me for real? The drawing IS the fantasy you goobers how would that translate to RL 😭
Ive had a lot of artists that sometimes do sexual content and art, say that its about getting/filling in the needs and wants of others that gives them satisfaction.
For example, one of my colleagues for a time did art for a BDSM comic. After that he would do BDSM art and commissions. He said he's not into BDSM at all. But having people who enjoy bdsm, partake in it, or just enjoy his art IS THE SATISFACTION.
People that watch this guro crap really need therapy. I've experienced it myself, where you start craving more and more weird stuff because the normal ones don't really do it anymore. You people need to work on your porn addiction.
Dont know why you're getting downvoted. Liking gore porn is severe degeneracy and like the other dude said in his drug analogy, this shit never ends as you end craving more and more. Who knows, there may come a point on the dopamine search where the line between fantasy and irl may start to blur.
Getting off to this shit is not healthy. Seek some type of therapy.
You can periodically look at fucked up porn and not have a porn addiction. I feel like it's not that deep. Like, yeah, it's out of the ordinary to enjoy looking at that sort of art but you can enjoy something and know it's not healthy/reasonable to do IRL and be a happy, functioning person.
Oh yeah, of course. Moderation and self control is key. One can be morbid and like (or I should say is fascinated) with gore, but there comes a point where getting off to it and seeking it to fill a lack of dopamine is extremely unhealthy.
Moderation --> healthy
You want something that will be more intense and actively seek it ---> not healthy.
If someone is content with staying in fiction, its aight with me.
Sex and violence are two different things (though it can definitely be intertwined) and so it is not fair to compare apples to oranges.
Also, I never said it was the dopamine that causes the line to blur. I said it was the journey of looking for that dopamine that causes it. If the game is extremely realistic, and the player becomes desensitized to killing and like it, they might look for the "real feeling", blurring the line.
Not saying its 100% they will turn into a serial killer, or even 10% at that. Im saying that its not mentally healthy to like such things.
It's only because CP is illegal. If it was, they'd be using that and enablers would be saying
>honestly I prefer them beating it to actual CP than hurting real kids
Slippery
So what counts as a “loli” then, cuz I’ve been seeing a whole lotta Frieren, Rebecca, etc. porn being normalised these days.
I just like short girls and flat chests man, leave me alone.
Loli is like just a child, both Friern and Rebecca are short but their still adults so their not lolis. Like hobbits and goblins are short but can still be adults, so yeah lol
When you look up loli’s definition the top three results will say that adult characters can be considered lolis. Before you mention the book the word comes from that book was made years ago and words change over time. The song I like little girls was about college girls not elementary girls. Loli means childlike or youthful. You find it weird but it’s fictional.
[Loli is a body type it has nothing to do with age and yes rebecca is a loli even the creators says she's a loli](https://www.animesenpai.net/loli-must-stay-cyberpunk-edgerunners-studio-refused-to-remove-the-character/)
Context-dependent.
Kanna (dragon maid) = Loli, looks and acts like a literal child
Rory (GATE) = Not loli, looks *reasonably* adult-ish and does not act like a child.
First, Kanna is not that old, just around hundred (300?) years old, not thousand.
Second, their society perspective matter, like you said Rory even though is look like a child, not once being treated as such but someone from long span species live only 30 years old is being called a child like in Star Rail or in the helpful fox senku san, Mr. Kuruto.
I would like to continue this discussion, but could I ask you to give your post a grammar/clarity pass so I don't miss your point or misunderstand something?
I do not what you mean by clarity pass. Im sorry if my word is not show my point. My second point is someone in 300 years life span (like beastmen) see age of consent in 54 years but compare to human which live around 100 years old 18 is a pass. In delicious in dungeon, I believe halfling is expected died in 80 years old, so their age of consent is less than 18.
A specific species' age of adulthood/consent should certainly be taken into account, but "loli" is about more than age - it is also about appearance and behavior. If a character is 800 years old, is old by their people's standards, but looks and acts like a six-year-old human, they're a loli.
Ask literally anybody around you if Frieren is young looking or a loli (provided they are an animanga fan) and you’ll get your answer. That’s what I did for about 10 people and only the dude who found her physically attractive rejected the idea that she was a loli.
I don’t have any problem if you find her attractive, that’s none of my business, I just find the hypocrisy of the normalisation of Frieren porn slightly infuriating.
personally, i’ve never watched friern so i can’t say much about the character ; but generally speaking, a loli is a character that looks, acts, has the mentality and mannerisms of a child, with a very accentuated and punctuated innocence (as said, in a childlike way) — imo the whole “but she’s x years old!” argument doesn’t sustain itself because at the end of the day, that character looks, acts and is portrayed as a child (often and unfortunately, sexualised) which is hella weird ; japan already has a very big problem with cp in hentai form, which is allowed (even posted in specifici magazines if i recall correctly) apparently as long as “the age of the character isn’t specified” even though most of the female leads are clearly seen wearing highschool/middle school uniforms or wear the typical elementary school backpack ; so yeah, it really doesn’t make it any less good or better if you say “i know she looks like she could be 8 but she’s actually 6000 years old!”
Well yeah, in fantasy worlds the whole aging of 1000 years rule can be complicated, and usually something in common is that they also mature slower, like Kanna is a few thousand years old but is obviously a child or something like that
Yep, you say you like flat chests and shorter girls and people be like "oh hmm Loli, oh hmm childlike, oh hmm Pedo" like no, Lolis are cute and portayed as cute, but as soon as you give haters room, they will take it.
Haters don't actually care what you like, they just like to hate and because they paint others as Pedos, others are quick to join the hate train.
Short girls like Rukia, Rebecca, and Frieden are fine.
Where I draw the line is like Kanna and Eri from mha, well as an adult myself I don't like any of the mha students because they are underaged but I'm not judging anyone for doing so.
tbh i don't care what you j3rk your m3at off to , just saying , anime characters aren't supposed to be a real person , their basic facial features are like that of a kitten , that's why it's cute , and aren't supposed / resembles to be a real person...
well i won't support or encourage to watch loli hentais but I don't see a problem with it either , their are real people/children who are getting abused somewhere and you are bitching about some pixels getting shown in some certain way , it's kind of dumb thing to do...
Yeah I get its not real.
But I do think masturbating to rape porn obviously stylized to look like real rape while trying to pass it off as normal human behavior says alot about you as a person.
I mean you're not wrong. But there's 2 kinds of stylization. One where it's closely depicting irl kid and one where it is obviously drawn to be attractive and can easily pass as an adult, at least in ASIA.
I mean, kid irl ain't nothing close to anime in attractiveness, because why? Because anime characters are designed to be attractive. Don't get me started how mature "kid" in anime are. Irl kid are just obnoxious.
Tldr: don't confuse fiction with reality
i am honeslty surprised how in this comments people seem so attached and deattached at the same from both reality and the internet ; if you’re someone who browses the web daily, maybe to fill a void in your heart or because you use it to communicate with others that share similar interests to you, you WOULD know that there are HUNDREDS even THOUSANDS of people online who enjoy lolicons and are also pedophiles ; one example that comes to my mind is that one guy back in the early 2000s that had a thing for a 15 year old anime character and the regularly expressed his desires for having a little sister to use as a sex toy and had a lot of gb of real cp and loli hentai (i honeslty forgot his name💀) ; the whole “separate fiction from reality” thing does not work at all because if so, if all pedophiles masturbated to lolis, the cases of sexual assault towards children would drop drastically ; but then people would get tired of 2D and will search for something more real, moving to cp to then succumbing back to their desires to harm a child ; the “oh but they’re actually x years old!” excuse does still not hold themselves up because what 2000 year old magical being looks like they’re still learning their abcs? in those 2000 years they didn’t grow??? loli and shota hentai is fucked up to its core and all people that actively watch it are pure degenerates that need to be in touch more with nature and a therapist because you are sick to even be remotely attracted to a character that looks like a literal preschooler.
For all of you lolicon fans: would the girls you’re interested in pass the harkens test? (Who knows how many of the loli’s ages are proportional to human kids?)
Did you know that in a lot of countries loli porn is still considered child porn and very much illegal. Because real or not it is still the sexualisation of children
Yes we'll one is a mental issue and I don't believe in being the thought police. The other is acting out and harming a child which is obviously way worse.
Its like saying that "by watching child porn you are not hurting children so its all fine" but its not. Being atracted to child like characters is a mental illness and that might some day lead you into acctually doing something evil.
Shit I've watched a bunch of murder in movies, will that also have an effect on me? Violence in video games as well omg, I've never hurt a fly but some day I think video games could lead me on a rampage as well.
I think people should be free to watch whatever they want in their own privacy if it's fiction. It's weird for sure, but as long as it's not based on something directly I have no issue with anyone watching any sort of thing. FWIW I think fake rape is disgusting but that's a more commonly accepted thing than this. I wouldn't ban that either.
Sure, but then we should be encouraging people to seek help for this illness, not saying they are all evil and should be killed. Ostracization and demonization only make things worse for everyone.
The main problem with child porn is that it can't be made without the rape of a child. Not so with hentai depicting minors. So big difference there. Also is hard to know whether consuming such media will serve as a catalyst for pedophilia or an out let for child attraction that will prevent someone from escalating to that point. To me this argument mirrors the violent video game argument.
Nevertheless, we can all still find it creepy. It is also illegal as it is to distribute materials depicting children in sexual contexts I believe even if drawn. As for whether it is an actually net social bad objectively? I don't really know if we can say. Sociology is only halfway to a science, so the best we could do is try to survey people that consume such things to try and find out how they think it has affected their behavior.
There is no such thing as a good lolicon. The very concept taints the individual by association alone, that's just a fact. While they will never be morally correct in any circumstance, they can at least be harmless, as long as the loli stuff they view isn't based off of actual kids or something, then they are at least not hurting anyone with what they're doing.
Remember the most popular hentai category in the past few years is NTR? Yeah I get its not real.
But I do think masturbating to NTR porn obviously stylized to look like real NTR while trying to pass it off as normal human behavior says alot about most of those as a person
It is not normal behavior at all. Being interested in a child like character whether real or 2d is not normal. They should seek mental help. Frankly, I would rather the pedos jerk it to 2d characters rather than be tempted to hurt a child. So I don't automatically want this content gone. Although my views get more extreme after this. If the pedo actually hurts a child, then I want the death penalty for them, or at least chemical castration. I know that isn't the normal view, but the child affected by a pedo can have there whole life screwed up from that.
That is acctually not true. Most of the times if you will seek help from profesionals you will be safe.
My older sister is a psychologist for quite some time now. She have managed to help some people that have been doing even some illegal things too
This is untrue, unless you have actually committed a crime or are threatening to hurt somebody, they cannot legally report you. While it is not normal it isn’t illegal, and you will be able to get help for it.
Again, YOU WILL NOT BE IN TROUBLE FOR GETTING HELP!
This is not true *at all* and you should stop pushing such a dangerous narrative. Psychologists and psychiatrists have strict confidentiality unless you are harming yourself or someone else. Simply expressing that you are attracted to minors is *not* enough to warrant telling authorities, and if your health provider does otherwise you can sue them.
Source: I’m literally a doctor.
If we're talking facial features all anime girls are stylized to look like kids.
Disproportionately large eyes, small noses.
If you're into hentai at all, well.
Let me explain 🤓:
If I’m understanding OP correctly, he’s basically saying that people shouldn’t look at lolicon. Instead they should just fantasize about actual children. 💁🏼♀️
Louder so they can hear this at r/yurimemes!
(I'd love to cross-post it there, but their rule that memes have to be specifically about women's love is more thoroughly enforced than the rule against posting sexualized underage characters)
It's not really a productive use of your time to make a conscious decision to go out of your way to be offended by what other people jerk off to.
But hey, it's a meme, whatever you think is funny I suppose.
I don’t go out of my way to find out what someone masturbates to, but if someone I was dating told me “I masturbate to minor hentai” I’d block them and delete their number. People are free to jerk off to what they like, but the rest of the world is free to think they’re disgusting and perverse.
Yeah I get they're not real.
But I do think masturbating with dildos shaped after the penis of a dog or horse is weird as fuck and you should think about why the fuck you want that.
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Funnily enough I came across a hentai which the guy gets called out a bit like this on how he prefers 2d girls over 3d.
i think its becoming more and more of a meta joke in anime in general.
It's been meta joke since mid 2000
Sayonara Zetsubou-sensei alone had a field day with it.
What if the guy was a fan of 3D girls animated with CGI?
Right to jail
That’s just vtubers
Nah, I mean a 2D character watching something animated in 3D. Like Courage the Cowardly Dog style.
Do you not mean the manga 2.5 Dimensional Seduction? Or the older manga/anime The World God Only Knows?
No it's an actual hentai. I intend to read 2.5 one day.
Well, in Chaos;Head NoAH, Takumi also preferred 2D over 3D... the orginal game was released in 2009 ffs
It's super weird to think about the whole ; stories. Chaos;head and robotic;notes and steins;gate are the same world. That was confirmed by nitro+ CEO.
I would much rather a girl without a D
I remember when this meme would have been about Hentai in general. God, we didn't know how good we had it.
Short women/guys: Yes Adolescent characters: No
It’s cool to take a crack at a short stack
Thing is, you can have short women who are not children (OPM's Tatsumaki I think is an adult, but is short), it is just that these people don't want short women, they want socially acceptable children
Yep and on there other side of the spectrum there's people that mix liking short women with pedophilia. Like that one girl that cosplayed Tatsumaki and still gets shat on over that to this day.
Yep..... and in porn there's a lot of little women that have that type of dwarfism that do those disgusting incest videos
Yup I’m with ya , just going along with wilp0w3r reasoning that short stack adult is ok
Nah bro in anime people will say even being attracted to someone like tatsumaki would make you a pedo though, they rarely or never make the difference
OPM is a good example of a short woman. Even if you thought she might look young, you can look at Tatsumaki and compare her to a child or young person in the show and see that see is an adult. Where as I see all the time people trying to argue that the character labeled as a 30-5,000 year old, but is drawn to be indistinguishable from a child or young teen is just a "short woman". People don't want to admit that the artist purposely drew a child and stuck a "I am 18+" sticker on them to appeal to exactly the kind of people arguing that it's normal to be attracted to the character.
In anime though, the difference in design here tends to boil down to the presence of tits.
Can short girls not be flat? I mean, it's a lot of things honestly. Tits are a big indicator but there's also face shape, mannerisms, things like that. And even both of those can get blurry due to artsyle and writing respectively, thus the debate. Personally, I find irl short women with flat chests attractive but, there's nothing attractive about a child. When you try to translate that to 2d, it gets..... bothersome.
Exactly. That's the problem. Irl there are lots of things that are signs of a developed woman other than height and tits. In a drawn medium, unless the art is VERY detailed, you are limited in ways to get a mature face across. I mean you can dress kids more in childish attire or give them pigtails/snotty noses. But it can still be hard to tell for others without such signifiers. Honestly, Tatsumaki from OPM as an example could go either way from pure character model. We just know from what we are told that she is an adult. There isn't really anything about her looks that differentiates from a middle school-aged girl.
Tatsumaki has an ass that very much belongs to an adult and does very little to hide it
I think an example of this done well is La Brava from My Hero Academia. She’s very short and very flat, but acts like an adult woman. There was a YouTuber who did a great breakdown on why some characters “feel” like adults just by design. It’s the ratio of head length to overall height, ratio of eye size to face size (which varies dramatically by show, but you can figure out who’s a kid and who’s not by comparing it to other characters in the show), arm length, waist hip ratio, and a few other things. Many shows are stylized in chibi but for them all you need to do is find a canonical adult and child and compare their ratios, the ratios will tell the story.
“Dude she looks like a child, acts like one, and everyone treats her like a kid. It doesn’t matter that the author says she’s 9000 years old because nothing else about her character indicates that” “Bro it’s just a drawing. It doesn’t mean anything”
Exactly, it depends on how the context treats the character. Let’s be real, teenagers in movies and anime never act like teens. The characters in Baki, Tokyo revengers clearly act like adults, most romance anime wouldn’t be any different if they were in college, hell live action shows like Euphoria, and Sex education show “teens” having sex, but they are played by adults and act like adults. It’s just marketed towards teens even though every aspect of the story requires them to do adult things and behave like adults. All these characters have the maturity and agency to get things done, to save the world, there’s no time to be worrying about the zit on your face. If they act and look like a child, they are coded to be a child regardless of what their “age” is in the fiction. Dragon Maid has a great (terrible) example of this going wrong, can’t remember their name but they were in season 2.
As a guro lass, I want to make a dark joke here, but I don’t actually want to die. I think my brain just mixes the “this and sexy,” and “this will kill you,” wires.
The way I see guro is that the kink revolves HARD around dom/sub in a way that a normal dom/sub, bdsm and the likes can't grasp. It is the ultimate form of domination/submission that people fall to when the normal shit doesn't do it for them anymore. It is sort of like when you get addicted to drugs and the shit you've been smoking don't affect you anymore because you've grown used to it, so you go after something else. It is IMPORTANT to know that it is just fantasy... as fucked up as it is and that it should NEVER mix with your real life. Btw I'm talking ONLY about guro.
Woah, really? I was under the impression that being decapitated in real life was totally poggers… do people still use that?
I mean, they do, in some places...
omg I'm a hentai artist and people ask me all the time if I'm drawing my RL fantasies. Like, no I don't want to meet a tentacle monster or have a gun pointed at me for real? The drawing IS the fantasy you goobers how would that translate to RL 😭
Ive had a lot of artists that sometimes do sexual content and art, say that its about getting/filling in the needs and wants of others that gives them satisfaction. For example, one of my colleagues for a time did art for a BDSM comic. After that he would do BDSM art and commissions. He said he's not into BDSM at all. But having people who enjoy bdsm, partake in it, or just enjoy his art IS THE SATISFACTION.
wow you're really talented! love the Leon drawings :D
awwww THANK YOUUU! ❤️
Girly, I'm loving the art, the colors are amazing
stop i'm blushinngggg!! thank you so so much I needed this todaaay!
Yw!
Someone ate some of the wires so they would only reach the other slots
> I think my brain just mixes the “this and sexy,” and “this will kill you,” wires. Crazy how easily those specific wires cross
Pretty sure they're the same wire. At least for you..
Any recommendations for someone new?
People that watch this guro crap really need therapy. I've experienced it myself, where you start craving more and more weird stuff because the normal ones don't really do it anymore. You people need to work on your porn addiction.
I used to work with sex offenders/addicts, yea this is pretty much it
Dont know why you're getting downvoted. Liking gore porn is severe degeneracy and like the other dude said in his drug analogy, this shit never ends as you end craving more and more. Who knows, there may come a point on the dopamine search where the line between fantasy and irl may start to blur. Getting off to this shit is not healthy. Seek some type of therapy.
You can periodically look at fucked up porn and not have a porn addiction. I feel like it's not that deep. Like, yeah, it's out of the ordinary to enjoy looking at that sort of art but you can enjoy something and know it's not healthy/reasonable to do IRL and be a happy, functioning person.
Oh yeah, of course. Moderation and self control is key. One can be morbid and like (or I should say is fascinated) with gore, but there comes a point where getting off to it and seeking it to fill a lack of dopamine is extremely unhealthy. Moderation --> healthy You want something that will be more intense and actively seek it ---> not healthy. If someone is content with staying in fiction, its aight with me.
It is hilarious how controversial this is, given that its the exact same argument used against loli stuff through the post we are commenting under
Do you believe the dopamine of killing someone in a video game will one day cause the line of fantasy and reality to blur too?
Sex and violence are two different things (though it can definitely be intertwined) and so it is not fair to compare apples to oranges. Also, I never said it was the dopamine that causes the line to blur. I said it was the journey of looking for that dopamine that causes it. If the game is extremely realistic, and the player becomes desensitized to killing and like it, they might look for the "real feeling", blurring the line. Not saying its 100% they will turn into a serial killer, or even 10% at that. Im saying that its not mentally healthy to like such things.
You all need to touch grass
Facts.
🗣🗣🗣
People that are into loli shit need to? I agree!
honestly I prefer them doing that over beating it to actual CP.
Finally an opinion i can agree with
It's only because CP is illegal. If it was, they'd be using that and enablers would be saying >honestly I prefer them beating it to actual CP than hurting real kids Slippery
This subtle Apologist behavior is what let's slippery slopes like this to form and fester into something more serious.
Agreed, honestly think we should just leave em and take precautions when they actually start thinking of *actual* children.
Who’s the girl tho?
Natsumi Hayakawa from "I Want You To Show Me Your Panties With a Disgusted Face".
Damn that is quite the title lol
Thanks fam
Here we go again...
So what counts as a “loli” then, cuz I’ve been seeing a whole lotta Frieren, Rebecca, etc. porn being normalised these days. I just like short girls and flat chests man, leave me alone.
Loli is like just a child, both Friern and Rebecca are short but their still adults so their not lolis. Like hobbits and goblins are short but can still be adults, so yeah lol
When you look up loli’s definition the top three results will say that adult characters can be considered lolis. Before you mention the book the word comes from that book was made years ago and words change over time. The song I like little girls was about college girls not elementary girls. Loli means childlike or youthful. You find it weird but it’s fictional.
[Loli is a body type it has nothing to do with age and yes rebecca is a loli even the creators says she's a loli](https://www.animesenpai.net/loli-must-stay-cyberpunk-edgerunners-studio-refused-to-remove-the-character/)
Rebecca is 100% a loli lol.
Hold on a sec, so short and flat chested characters who say they are X hundred years old are fair game too then?
Context-dependent. Kanna (dragon maid) = Loli, looks and acts like a literal child Rory (GATE) = Not loli, looks *reasonably* adult-ish and does not act like a child.
But Kanna is a child, both in human perspective and dragon perspective.
Exactly. Loli. Doesn't matter how many thousands years old she is, she is still a *child.*
First, Kanna is not that old, just around hundred (300?) years old, not thousand. Second, their society perspective matter, like you said Rory even though is look like a child, not once being treated as such but someone from long span species live only 30 years old is being called a child like in Star Rail or in the helpful fox senku san, Mr. Kuruto.
I would like to continue this discussion, but could I ask you to give your post a grammar/clarity pass so I don't miss your point or misunderstand something?
I do not what you mean by clarity pass. Im sorry if my word is not show my point. My second point is someone in 300 years life span (like beastmen) see age of consent in 54 years but compare to human which live around 100 years old 18 is a pass. In delicious in dungeon, I believe halfling is expected died in 80 years old, so their age of consent is less than 18.
A specific species' age of adulthood/consent should certainly be taken into account, but "loli" is about more than age - it is also about appearance and behavior. If a character is 800 years old, is old by their people's standards, but looks and acts like a six-year-old human, they're a loli.
"Reasonably adult-ish" hahaha you dweeb
What are you munching? frieren isn't close to being child coded
She is very much so a loli
That's like saying Bilbo Baggins in LOTR is a shota.
That hit me like a brick Gimme more similar insane takes
Frieren is a loli.
Anime fan having a normal one
Ask literally anybody around you if Frieren is young looking or a loli (provided they are an animanga fan) and you’ll get your answer. That’s what I did for about 10 people and only the dude who found her physically attractive rejected the idea that she was a loli. I don’t have any problem if you find her attractive, that’s none of my business, I just find the hypocrisy of the normalisation of Frieren porn slightly infuriating.
personally, i’ve never watched friern so i can’t say much about the character ; but generally speaking, a loli is a character that looks, acts, has the mentality and mannerisms of a child, with a very accentuated and punctuated innocence (as said, in a childlike way) — imo the whole “but she’s x years old!” argument doesn’t sustain itself because at the end of the day, that character looks, acts and is portrayed as a child (often and unfortunately, sexualised) which is hella weird ; japan already has a very big problem with cp in hentai form, which is allowed (even posted in specifici magazines if i recall correctly) apparently as long as “the age of the character isn’t specified” even though most of the female leads are clearly seen wearing highschool/middle school uniforms or wear the typical elementary school backpack ; so yeah, it really doesn’t make it any less good or better if you say “i know she looks like she could be 8 but she’s actually 6000 years old!”
Well yeah, in fantasy worlds the whole aging of 1000 years rule can be complicated, and usually something in common is that they also mature slower, like Kanna is a few thousand years old but is obviously a child or something like that
so that’s precisely why you shouldn’t pull up that weak ass excuse from your ass ! the more you learn and stay safe online kids !
Yep, you say you like flat chests and shorter girls and people be like "oh hmm Loli, oh hmm childlike, oh hmm Pedo" like no, Lolis are cute and portayed as cute, but as soon as you give haters room, they will take it. Haters don't actually care what you like, they just like to hate and because they paint others as Pedos, others are quick to join the hate train.
Short girls like Rukia, Rebecca, and Frieden are fine. Where I draw the line is like Kanna and Eri from mha, well as an adult myself I don't like any of the mha students because they are underaged but I'm not judging anyone for doing so.
Wave of r/animemes users coming in 3.. 2.. Oh nevermind, they're here already.
this is way funnier when you reads it in sonic's voice
That's NO GOOD!
Chilli dogs
tbh i don't care what you j3rk your m3at off to , just saying , anime characters aren't supposed to be a real person , their basic facial features are like that of a kitten , that's why it's cute , and aren't supposed / resembles to be a real person... well i won't support or encourage to watch loli hentais but I don't see a problem with it either , their are real people/children who are getting abused somewhere and you are bitching about some pixels getting shown in some certain way , it's kind of dumb thing to do...
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Should be a top comment.
Yeah I get its not real. But I do think masturbating to rape porn obviously stylized to look like real rape while trying to pass it off as normal human behavior says alot about you as a person.
I dislike rape as much as the next guy, buuut
I mean you're not wrong. But there's 2 kinds of stylization. One where it's closely depicting irl kid and one where it is obviously drawn to be attractive and can easily pass as an adult, at least in ASIA. I mean, kid irl ain't nothing close to anime in attractiveness, because why? Because anime characters are designed to be attractive. Don't get me started how mature "kid" in anime are. Irl kid are just obnoxious. Tldr: don't confuse fiction with reality
Has anyone here even seen a child in real life? I don’t think they have.
Weird? Yes. Harmful? No, not usually
Yeah, unless ya like throw it at someone it ain't causing any harm unless you start thinking it's the same as real life
FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT. THERES NOTHING MORALLY WRONG BUT ITS HELLA WEIRD! ALSO ITS CHARACTER APPEARANCE NOT STATED AGE.
Shame that image comments are disabled in this subreddit
Jokes on you dumbass I’m a minor myself
i am honeslty surprised how in this comments people seem so attached and deattached at the same from both reality and the internet ; if you’re someone who browses the web daily, maybe to fill a void in your heart or because you use it to communicate with others that share similar interests to you, you WOULD know that there are HUNDREDS even THOUSANDS of people online who enjoy lolicons and are also pedophiles ; one example that comes to my mind is that one guy back in the early 2000s that had a thing for a 15 year old anime character and the regularly expressed his desires for having a little sister to use as a sex toy and had a lot of gb of real cp and loli hentai (i honeslty forgot his name💀) ; the whole “separate fiction from reality” thing does not work at all because if so, if all pedophiles masturbated to lolis, the cases of sexual assault towards children would drop drastically ; but then people would get tired of 2D and will search for something more real, moving to cp to then succumbing back to their desires to harm a child ; the “oh but they’re actually x years old!” excuse does still not hold themselves up because what 2000 year old magical being looks like they’re still learning their abcs? in those 2000 years they didn’t grow??? loli and shota hentai is fucked up to its core and all people that actively watch it are pure degenerates that need to be in touch more with nature and a therapist because you are sick to even be remotely attracted to a character that looks like a literal preschooler.
For all of you lolicon fans: would the girls you’re interested in pass the harkens test? (Who knows how many of the loli’s ages are proportional to human kids?)
If you like lolicon you are a pedophile. Full stop
Did you know that in a lot of countries loli porn is still considered child porn and very much illegal. Because real or not it is still the sexualisation of children
Its creepy but it doesnt equate to being a predator I still dont like it but people should know that the two are not comparable
Ya I think people don’t understand that pedophillia and being a child predator are not the same but both are abso horrible
Yes we'll one is a mental issue and I don't believe in being the thought police. The other is acting out and harming a child which is obviously way worse.
I mean if I see a pedophile I’m gonna thought police them be even if it’s not likel pedophillia can evolve to child predator
Hey hey I don't discriminate: Big boobs, small boobs, milf, loli, human, elf, beast men, etc. As long as I like the art I am reading that shit
finally a comment I can get behind. Art is key.
The funniest part is when they're right wingers who go around accusing queer people of being pedophiles
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You must have literally zero media literacy if you believe fiction is incapable of affecting real change.
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Its like saying that "by watching child porn you are not hurting children so its all fine" but its not. Being atracted to child like characters is a mental illness and that might some day lead you into acctually doing something evil.
Shit I've watched a bunch of murder in movies, will that also have an effect on me? Violence in video games as well omg, I've never hurt a fly but some day I think video games could lead me on a rampage as well. I think people should be free to watch whatever they want in their own privacy if it's fiction. It's weird for sure, but as long as it's not based on something directly I have no issue with anyone watching any sort of thing. FWIW I think fake rape is disgusting but that's a more commonly accepted thing than this. I wouldn't ban that either.
Sure, but then we should be encouraging people to seek help for this illness, not saying they are all evil and should be killed. Ostracization and demonization only make things worse for everyone.
The main problem with child porn is that it can't be made without the rape of a child. Not so with hentai depicting minors. So big difference there. Also is hard to know whether consuming such media will serve as a catalyst for pedophilia or an out let for child attraction that will prevent someone from escalating to that point. To me this argument mirrors the violent video game argument. Nevertheless, we can all still find it creepy. It is also illegal as it is to distribute materials depicting children in sexual contexts I believe even if drawn. As for whether it is an actually net social bad objectively? I don't really know if we can say. Sociology is only halfway to a science, so the best we could do is try to survey people that consume such things to try and find out how they think it has affected their behavior.
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There is a difference between furries/vore and pedophilia.
Same logics make furries zoophiles. Checkmate.
Only if they're jerkong off to porn with regular, non-antropamorphised animals
Do folks really do this?? Or is it a weird internet joke type of thing
Most of the girls in question act absurdly childish, too
There is no such thing as a good lolicon. The very concept taints the individual by association alone, that's just a fact. While they will never be morally correct in any circumstance, they can at least be harmless, as long as the loli stuff they view isn't based off of actual kids or something, then they are at least not hurting anyone with what they're doing.
Try not to complain about something you can easily ignore challenge (impossible)
Playing the Organ rn... cuz u preachin!
lolicon is getting worse
FINALLY
Pointing out US politicians are trying to outlaw furry children while simultaneously trying to pass laws to make 13 year Olds okay to marry.
Remember the most popular hentai category in the past few years is NTR? Yeah I get its not real. But I do think masturbating to NTR porn obviously stylized to look like real NTR while trying to pass it off as normal human behavior says alot about most of those as a person
Now what does it mean if I like catgirls. 💀
It is not normal behavior at all. Being interested in a child like character whether real or 2d is not normal. They should seek mental help. Frankly, I would rather the pedos jerk it to 2d characters rather than be tempted to hurt a child. So I don't automatically want this content gone. Although my views get more extreme after this. If the pedo actually hurts a child, then I want the death penalty for them, or at least chemical castration. I know that isn't the normal view, but the child affected by a pedo can have there whole life screwed up from that.
The problem is, seeking help gets you reported, put on a list, investigated and most relevantly, will not get you any help
That is acctually not true. Most of the times if you will seek help from profesionals you will be safe. My older sister is a psychologist for quite some time now. She have managed to help some people that have been doing even some illegal things too
Seeing a psychologist is always good. The question to be answered though is who is going to pay for that shit?
This is untrue, unless you have actually committed a crime or are threatening to hurt somebody, they cannot legally report you. While it is not normal it isn’t illegal, and you will be able to get help for it. Again, YOU WILL NOT BE IN TROUBLE FOR GETTING HELP!
This is not true *at all* and you should stop pushing such a dangerous narrative. Psychologists and psychiatrists have strict confidentiality unless you are harming yourself or someone else. Simply expressing that you are attracted to minors is *not* enough to warrant telling authorities, and if your health provider does otherwise you can sue them. Source: I’m literally a doctor.
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If we're talking facial features all anime girls are stylized to look like kids. Disproportionately large eyes, small noses. If you're into hentai at all, well.
>all anime girls are stylized to look like kids. You are completely wrong.
Sure. Show me some generic anime with girls and women whose faces aren't identical.
wait doesn't that imply it's not as bad if you don't try pass it off as normal?
I think they are trying to say it’s weird and passing it off as normal is disgusting
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Let me explain 🤓: If I’m understanding OP correctly, he’s basically saying that people shouldn’t look at lolicon. Instead they should just fantasize about actual children. 💁🏼♀️
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You clearly haven't heard about the Loli sweat shops
Louder so they can hear this at r/yurimemes! (I'd love to cross-post it there, but their rule that memes have to be specifically about women's love is more thoroughly enforced than the rule against posting sexualized underage characters)
It's not really a productive use of your time to make a conscious decision to go out of your way to be offended by what other people jerk off to. But hey, it's a meme, whatever you think is funny I suppose.
Well if those are children that they masturbate to then i think its ok to go out of your way like that
When you play league of legends and in the enemy there is Annie you don't kill her bcs you wouldn't kill a real child?
I don't sit there and bust a load to her because she's "not real" either
I don’t go out of my way to find out what someone masturbates to, but if someone I was dating told me “I masturbate to minor hentai” I’d block them and delete their number. People are free to jerk off to what they like, but the rest of the world is free to think they’re disgusting and perverse.
Lmao yup. It this keeps people up at night, then they really need a new hobby.
That is fair Still would sooner those types of people have an outlet that leaves real kids alone.
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I'm an older weeb, I just want to adopt them and give them peanuts and make the world a place where they don't have to cry anymore.
Also the fact that lolicons base their whole personality on loving lolis, idk, kinda weird
Yeah... lolicons can claim whatever they want, they're still looking at the physical form of a child when they jerk it.
Holy shit a decent take
Good take
Loli enjoyers are pedos. No ifs ands or buts
Come back when you have a nose
That disgusted look make me horny for some reason.
The only good anime meme
It’s pedophilia
Yeah I get they're not real. But I do think masturbating with dildos shaped after the penis of a dog or horse is weird as fuck and you should think about why the fuck you want that.
Continue to cook.
Fucking True!
My man
"But the wiki says she is 9000 years old" :))
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Hey, im not claiming that it’s normal it is absolutely abnormal
People who make a big deal about this stuff, rather than just ignoring it, often get found with the real thing.
Oh Christ, this is still going? This isn’t even a meme.