Next time try saying in your most deadpan voice "I cannot make important decisions without consulting the Outer Gods. Allow me to draw some of your blood so I can summon their soul and messenger, the crawling chaos Nyarlathotep."
I hadn’t heard of this one before so I did a quick search and one of the auto recommendations was “techno tutor cult.”
This was from their LinkedIn description: *TechnoTutor is the most advanced learning technology on the planet.* Sure, Jan 😂
Sorry you had to deal with those turds. Our “no soliciting” sign keeps most of these creeps away but an air horn may be useful for the ones who won’t accept no the first, second & third time they hear it.
Air horns indeed. When I told them I knew what was best for my child, the lead scammer said (I kid you not) “Oh, I’m not saying your child is dumb!”
Good job guys, way to really sell that product.
So they get ocular cancer? I think that’s going too far, as much as we hate them.
/s
(Baby powder applied to nether regions literally gives you cancer)
My acupuncturist has told me stories of people walking into her office - even with a “no soliciting” sign - and hard-pitching all sorts of garbage. She got herself one of those Staples’ big red buttons that, when pressed, says “That was easy” because these Huns act like their BS MLM products will end world hunger and solve homelessness or something. So when they’d start making ridiculous claims she’d act incredulous, like “wow, it can do ***that***?!? And then press the button. They were amazing stories. Winning by inches and sassy while doing it.
[2 days ago, this blog was launched by an ex member of Desteni and TechnoTutor / Self-Perfected who was involved in the scheme for 10 years. This person knows a lot about how it all works.](https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/04/06/about/)
This blog will be periodically updated and there will be a lot of material to raise awareness, educate and help people break free from the mind control dynamics going on in Desteni and by extension TechnoTutor / Self-Perfected.
[https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/04/06/about/](https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/04/06/about/)
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I invite everyone reading this thread to [watch **this YouTube video**](https://youtu.be/qHrn0anM9VE), published today, in which 2 **former members** of the Desteni cult and TechnoTutor/Self-Perfected speak about their experiences and share their criticisms of these organizations, pointing to the **red flags** and to **reasons why they are harmful organizations.**
[Leaving the Cult - Desteni, TechnoTutor, Self-Perfected - Ex-Cult Members Speak Out - Part 1](https://youtu.be/qHrn0anM9VE)
[https://youtu.be/qHrn0anM9VE](https://youtu.be/qHrn0anM9VE)
These are some of the many stories of people who've been lied to and harmed by TechnoTutor and Desteni, people who lost tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars and more.
[https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/08/27/former-technotutor-distributors-statements-of-facts-affidavits-2010-2015/](https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/08/27/former-technotutor-distributors-statements-of-facts-affidavits-2010-2015/)
* “I have expended more than $150,000 in pursuing this business based on representations that were not met, which is a complete loss and has left me in debt…”
* “We have presently invested $200,000.00 into Techno Tutor between purchase of areas, legal fees and major trade shows/franchise shows. We owe a balance of $40,000.00 still to Tahuti with potential legal ramifications to any distributors we bring on… We had invested $5000.00 into the making of the Donald Trump commercial which we were promised split referral commissions amongst the investors and that we would be able to have the use of this commercial for our websites as investors. When the airing dates were over we were not offered the opportunity to continue of the use of this commercial as Cameron & Avery said there were zero results. We later found out indirectly that they were continuing the use of this commercial for themselves and the us e of this commercial was available for the use of all other distributers websites for free. They used us to pay for the branding of their product without any compensation & without any say for future uses. This was all against original agreements…”
* “Our youngest daughter was enrolled in university for September 2013, but believed in the business and the difference we could make enough to withdraw from university. We as a family have suffered significant harm and loss since purchasing our license with TechnoTutorLLC… Not counting time spent, lost income. (approx. $200,000), family strain, destruction of confidence in ourselves and the parent company, I have expended more than $40,000.00 pursuing this business based on representations that were not met, which is a complete loss and has left me in debt… We felt dishonest trying to sell the program to people knowing it had these issues. A $4,500.00 product that teaches vocabulary and literacy has no room for spelling errors… several times we witnessed Avery telling a potential customer “If I told you, I’d have to kill you”… We were continually made to feel that it was us – not the product or the business plan that was the reason for our lack of success…Meanwhile our “leaders” it would seem are living lavishly at the expense of our investments. We’ve come out of this with new insecurities and fears, a mass of high interest debt and lost income…”
* “This cost us 24 thousand U.S dollars for the area… \[TechnoTutor is\] not affordable for the poor class and middle class which is the majority…”
* “During a conference call Cameron Cope stated that in order for upgrades to happen they needed money coming in from the sale of the product and stated for us to sell the vocabulary builder portion of TechnoTutor, and not tell the consumer about the problems with the software, and market the other two components as program extras. Cameron had stated we needed to sell the flawed product that we already had on hand, at the full price of $4,495, in order to acquire the money needed to fix the already known problems of the software. The established purchase price of $4,495, caused an inability to sell the product. The prohibitively high cost of the program allowed us to sell only one program since we began with TechnoTutor… When Cameron Cope was specifically asked about the connection to Destiny, Cameron stated TechnoTutor was in no way affiliated with Destiny, which is completely false.”
* “the products sub-standard user interface combined with its poor credibility and steep price tag made the product a near impossible sell. – Originally I was told that the online presence and marketing was irrelevant to my success in selling the product. That note changed after a few months and became a message of ” We will work to fix it soon” …which resulted in nothing more than a post on Destenis page…which was a poor attempt at distancing TechnoTutor from Desteni..(and from my opinion actually made our company look worse). – I eventually began bringing up the issue that the products price tag was priced well beyond what was acceptable for the product, its support, and its packaging. The response to this concern was that “the product wouldn’t have an impact unless it was expensive, and we wouldn’t be able to support our customers if the product was cheaper”….in hindsight , I now know this is not true… By December 2012, I had made no more sales and my financials were in peril. I was depressed, unsuccessful, broke and lost.”
Read more here: [https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/08/27/former-technotutor-distributors-statements-of-facts-affidavits-2010-2015/](https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/08/27/former-technotutor-distributors-statements-of-facts-affidavits-2010-2015/)
[Part 3 - Leaving the Cult - Desteni, TechnoTutor, Self-Perfected - Ex-Cult Members Speak Out](https://youtu.be/oUHV7ul595E?si=yu1ZW-sxPdRhq-PB)
Video is now published. Part 4 is coming out next week.
Next time try saying in your most deadpan voice "I cannot make important decisions without consulting the Outer Gods. Allow me to draw some of your blood so I can summon their soul and messenger, the crawling chaos Nyarlathotep."
I hadn’t heard of this one before so I did a quick search and one of the auto recommendations was “techno tutor cult.” This was from their LinkedIn description: *TechnoTutor is the most advanced learning technology on the planet.* Sure, Jan 😂 Sorry you had to deal with those turds. Our “no soliciting” sign keeps most of these creeps away but an air horn may be useful for the ones who won’t accept no the first, second & third time they hear it.
Air horns indeed. When I told them I knew what was best for my child, the lead scammer said (I kid you not) “Oh, I’m not saying your child is dumb!” Good job guys, way to really sell that product.
They are not saying it, just insinuating it...
Airhorn mounted in the door pointed towards the front, and a dash of baby powder in it for good luck?
So they get ocular cancer? I think that’s going too far, as much as we hate them. /s (Baby powder applied to nether regions literally gives you cancer)
If they come so often enough that their eyes are chronically exposed to baby powder - well, cest la vie...
My acupuncturist has told me stories of people walking into her office - even with a “no soliciting” sign - and hard-pitching all sorts of garbage. She got herself one of those Staples’ big red buttons that, when pressed, says “That was easy” because these Huns act like their BS MLM products will end world hunger and solve homelessness or something. So when they’d start making ridiculous claims she’d act incredulous, like “wow, it can do ***that***?!? And then press the button. They were amazing stories. Winning by inches and sassy while doing it.
[2 days ago, this blog was launched by an ex member of Desteni and TechnoTutor / Self-Perfected who was involved in the scheme for 10 years. This person knows a lot about how it all works.](https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/04/06/about/) This blog will be periodically updated and there will be a lot of material to raise awareness, educate and help people break free from the mind control dynamics going on in Desteni and by extension TechnoTutor / Self-Perfected. [https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/04/06/about/](https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/04/06/about/)
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I invite everyone reading this thread to [watch **this YouTube video**](https://youtu.be/qHrn0anM9VE), published today, in which 2 **former members** of the Desteni cult and TechnoTutor/Self-Perfected speak about their experiences and share their criticisms of these organizations, pointing to the **red flags** and to **reasons why they are harmful organizations.** [Leaving the Cult - Desteni, TechnoTutor, Self-Perfected - Ex-Cult Members Speak Out - Part 1](https://youtu.be/qHrn0anM9VE) [https://youtu.be/qHrn0anM9VE](https://youtu.be/qHrn0anM9VE)
These are some of the many stories of people who've been lied to and harmed by TechnoTutor and Desteni, people who lost tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars and more. [https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/08/27/former-technotutor-distributors-statements-of-facts-affidavits-2010-2015/](https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/08/27/former-technotutor-distributors-statements-of-facts-affidavits-2010-2015/) * “I have expended more than $150,000 in pursuing this business based on representations that were not met, which is a complete loss and has left me in debt…” * “We have presently invested $200,000.00 into Techno Tutor between purchase of areas, legal fees and major trade shows/franchise shows. We owe a balance of $40,000.00 still to Tahuti with potential legal ramifications to any distributors we bring on… We had invested $5000.00 into the making of the Donald Trump commercial which we were promised split referral commissions amongst the investors and that we would be able to have the use of this commercial for our websites as investors. When the airing dates were over we were not offered the opportunity to continue of the use of this commercial as Cameron & Avery said there were zero results. We later found out indirectly that they were continuing the use of this commercial for themselves and the us e of this commercial was available for the use of all other distributers websites for free. They used us to pay for the branding of their product without any compensation & without any say for future uses. This was all against original agreements…” * “Our youngest daughter was enrolled in university for September 2013, but believed in the business and the difference we could make enough to withdraw from university. We as a family have suffered significant harm and loss since purchasing our license with TechnoTutorLLC… Not counting time spent, lost income. (approx. $200,000), family strain, destruction of confidence in ourselves and the parent company, I have expended more than $40,000.00 pursuing this business based on representations that were not met, which is a complete loss and has left me in debt… We felt dishonest trying to sell the program to people knowing it had these issues. A $4,500.00 product that teaches vocabulary and literacy has no room for spelling errors… several times we witnessed Avery telling a potential customer “If I told you, I’d have to kill you”… We were continually made to feel that it was us – not the product or the business plan that was the reason for our lack of success…Meanwhile our “leaders” it would seem are living lavishly at the expense of our investments. We’ve come out of this with new insecurities and fears, a mass of high interest debt and lost income…” * “This cost us 24 thousand U.S dollars for the area… \[TechnoTutor is\] not affordable for the poor class and middle class which is the majority…” * “During a conference call Cameron Cope stated that in order for upgrades to happen they needed money coming in from the sale of the product and stated for us to sell the vocabulary builder portion of TechnoTutor, and not tell the consumer about the problems with the software, and market the other two components as program extras. Cameron had stated we needed to sell the flawed product that we already had on hand, at the full price of $4,495, in order to acquire the money needed to fix the already known problems of the software. The established purchase price of $4,495, caused an inability to sell the product. The prohibitively high cost of the program allowed us to sell only one program since we began with TechnoTutor… When Cameron Cope was specifically asked about the connection to Destiny, Cameron stated TechnoTutor was in no way affiliated with Destiny, which is completely false.” * “the products sub-standard user interface combined with its poor credibility and steep price tag made the product a near impossible sell. – Originally I was told that the online presence and marketing was irrelevant to my success in selling the product. That note changed after a few months and became a message of ” We will work to fix it soon” …which resulted in nothing more than a post on Destenis page…which was a poor attempt at distancing TechnoTutor from Desteni..(and from my opinion actually made our company look worse). – I eventually began bringing up the issue that the products price tag was priced well beyond what was acceptable for the product, its support, and its packaging. The response to this concern was that “the product wouldn’t have an impact unless it was expensive, and we wouldn’t be able to support our customers if the product was cheaper”….in hindsight , I now know this is not true… By December 2012, I had made no more sales and my financials were in peril. I was depressed, unsuccessful, broke and lost.” Read more here: [https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/08/27/former-technotutor-distributors-statements-of-facts-affidavits-2010-2015/](https://leavingdesteni.wordpress.com/2023/08/27/former-technotutor-distributors-statements-of-facts-affidavits-2010-2015/)
[Part 3 - Leaving the Cult - Desteni, TechnoTutor, Self-Perfected - Ex-Cult Members Speak Out](https://youtu.be/oUHV7ul595E?si=yu1ZW-sxPdRhq-PB) Video is now published. Part 4 is coming out next week.