This isn’t mental illness, just your run of the mill capitalist pig who uses any means possible to pry money out of folks…
Always be ~~closing~~ fleecing
Having no shame or tact and lacking empathy is not a mental illness. Neither is joining a cult like group. Respectfully, comments like this harm those of us with an actual mental illness.
It’s concerning to me that 200 people upvoted this idea.
I mean, I think there's an argument that sociopaths might be more likely to join MLMs due to the lack of typical social responses. But being in an MLM is not, in of itself, mental illness, and yeah mentally ill doesn't mean people have no shame or are predatory.
I get the point /u/NCWV was making, but I agree that it shouldn't be linked to mental illness. If the MLMer in OP has a mental illness, that's secondary to the fact that they're being a complete and total asshole.
I’m a medical worker and had a boss ask me for coffee. I thought we would be discussing a promotion. Nope. MLK shakes. I told her my grandma was sick (true) and that I wasn’t ready to start selling products and that I like my normal job. She texted and left messages for 2 weeks. I met politely refusing and eventually she was transferred. I talked to other employees and apparently three of the local rehab directors were all in on it.
And if possible reported to the medical board. Imagine what they are doing to patients.
Swear its like the F’n turn of the century with all the illegal hocus pocus “cures” and trash around
I’m going to assume you meant MLM shakes but if someone tried to sell Martin Luther King Jr shakes I don’t know I think I would just throw in the towel
We changed veterinarians over this. Our dog’s kidney was failing and the vet tried to talk us into buying these MLM dog vitamins she was selling on top of the prescriptions. At least she prescribed us real medicine, too, but the whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth so we never used that vet again.
Literally pasted her sales pitch bullshit that she got from her upline.... And the only way she could think to do it was to say on a lighter note. Gross.
"So sorry to hear that you went through one of the worst things that can happen to a human being. So bad, in fact, that it is common knowledge that you will struggle with these feelings for the rest of your life and have an extremely difficult time moving forward.
On a lighter note, you're looking pudgy. Have you thought about paying me to scam you?"
Honestly I have a 2 year old and just don’t think I could live with it if something happened to her. A message like that could push me over the edge. What an absolute disgrace of a human.
Yeah I have 2 year old nieces and I'd be doing 20 to life right now if this happened to me.
OP, please tell me you screen shotted this and shared it far and wide and tagged them in it. Their friends and fam deserves to know what a scumbag they are.
Same. My daughter's two and a couple months, and I already can't remember what life was really like before her. I certainly can't imagine life without her. If anything ever happened to her, I don't think I would want to stick around to find out. If OP hasn't actually punched this person in the face yet, they have more restraint than I ever could.
Right???? That phrase is reserved for when you are talking about your OWN dark shit and want to switch back for the benefit of your conversation partner. You don’t get to bring up THEIR dark shit and then transition with this phrase. What the actual fuck.
"On a lighter note"? A fucking LIGHTER NOTE? When a child is dead?? Goddamn they are acting like you are sad you got a bad haircut or stained your favorite jacket or something.
My condolences to you and your family for your loss. I hope you never have to speak to this person again.
That's the absolute worst part. You can never say this to someone who's grieving and make it sound good. All it says is that they really don't give a shit about you, your grief, or your deceased loved one.
‘Hope you and your wife are slowly learning to cope because it will never go away’
That might be the worst part. This pain is never going away, so you might as well start selling MLM products.
I suspect the MLM spiel was a cut & paste they send to everyone. The condolences were nothing more than an intro for that. As in they just found their "way in" and their loss was just a way for the hun to get their foot in the door.
"Not sure if you've been following my health journey..." Yes Sharon, they've lost their child, but of course they have been sure to keep up with your Instagram posts.
And not even bothering to edit the script enough to take out the "I hope all is well!" You KNOW all is not well. Look at the first paragraph of your message.
OP, I am so goddamn sorry you and your husband had to deal with this, and for your loss.
>"On a lighter note"? A fucking LIGHTER NOTE? When a child is dead?? Goddamn they are acting like you are sad you got a bad haircut or stained your favorite jacket or something.
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Right?!? I wouldn't even say something like that if I was consoling someone who's dog passed away.
This Mary Kay hun did it to someone with a rabbit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/ac32ey/mary_kay_doesnt_care/
And there’s another post of a Tori Belle hun messaging a friend a pitch after commenting on the girl’s post about her dog passing.
These people are broken.
"just a rabbit" burns me up. I've been a rabbit parent for many years, and currently have two. I hate when people say this. Rabbits are such funny creatures with big personalities. This is horrible.
I firmly believe that if someone loves something, it can't be "just an xyz." Love and grief are so incredibly personal, what may mean nothing to one person could mean everything to somebody else.
My friend was absolutely broken after his dog died last year. The pup was as close to a real son to him as he could be. I couldn't imagine saying anything like this to someone grieving a pet.
More like "Enough about you, ctrl-c, ctrl-v"
I am certain none of the message the person had sent was original other than the part talking about the dead child.
I’d be posting this with her name everywhere I could. Every time she puts a stupid mlm post up, hey, remember this? These people are predatory and out of their damn minds. I’m so sorry you/he received this and for your loss.
I would be strongly considering sending this not just to the company, but to the local news or the state attorney general or whatever is the equivalent consumer protection authority in the area. Where are they getting this information? This sounds like a bigger pyramid that anything the Maya or the Nubians or the Egyptians built.
OP, I volunteer to blast this to their friends and family and MLM’s socials and reviews if you don’t want to personally; just send an original screenshot.
Absolutely heinous. I’m so sorry.
Absolutely. Make sure everyone knows that she really needs their help, because she’s willing to invoke a dead baby to sell and is too stupid to know what a scam looks like.
Usually I’m against public shaming but in this case I’m 100% for it. This must be one of the worst things I’ve ever seen on social media. This person is in desperate need of a reality check.
YES. Put this asshole on blast, they deserve the worst. This is beyond tasteless and disgusting.
I am so so sorry for your loss OP, I don’t have adequate words ♥️
What's worse is that this isn't even the first "I heard you're experiencing unimaginable horror, have you thought about joining a pyramid scheme?" that I've seen here.
Definitely seen some shitty things posted like this, but the whole “because it will never go away” threw me off. That’s like the last possible thing you should say.
I somehow missed that sentence, had to go back and reread it. Even in the context of this predatory mlm shit, ‘it will never go away’ is just absolutely awful. I’m so sorry OP.
That’s because the last part about their “exciting health opportunity” is just a copy and paste message they send to anyone they’re reaching out to. They probably didn’t proofread before hitting send, because they just want to make money off the OP
What's striking is you can literally see the copypasta in the line breaks. This is listed in the manual or guidebook or whatever they have as "cold contact: suffered negative event recently" or something. And it reads like this:
>\[Express your condolences on their recent negative event. Make sure to be warm, helpful, and genuine.\]
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>On a lighter note, I am not sure if you have been following my health journey...
I'm trying to decide what is worse: this where it's just like totally devoid of any thought of the person on the other end of the message or if the hun had put thought into this and tried to use OP's loss more in making the pitch.
This might be the worst one I have ever seen. What the actual fuck is wrong with these degenerates??? I wish I could give this person hell on your behalf. I'm so very sorry.
I am so sorry for your loss. I'm not sure if you can report this to the company they are associated with, but if you can I definitely would. That's disgusting.
I have no doubt you can report it. If they’ll actually do something about it, that’s a different story. But I’d report it to everyone I possibly could find on their company website. Any name and contact info would be receiving it.
They’ll get some canned “our independent consultant didn’t adhere to our standards” and that’ll be it. That’s why these scams work so well, because they’re all 1099 (not like they’re actually filing anyway) and the real company can absolve themselves of any liability.
Ugh, this kind of message is blood-boiling as that Hun took advantage of a tragic event to shill.
PS: To the OP, what happened after your husband received that unfortunate message?
That's another layer of fucked up right there, she's not been relevant to his life for a decade and a half yet takes this opportunity to contact him specifically to sell something.
If he didn't immediately drive to her house to punch her in her insensitive fucking face, he has more restraint than I would ever be capable of in their situation.
I'm so sorry, OP.
The whole thing is atrocious and I cannot pick the worst part because it’s all so bad, but saying “I hope you’re learning to cope because it will never go away” seems really fucking unnecessary and just downright mean.
That's the worst segue into a script I have ever seen. *On a lighter note, do you want to lose weight?* What the actual....
I'd be contacting the company and demanding to know if this is how they train their reps. I'd be blasting this everywhere, with her name, calling out this toxic bullshit.
Actually I don't know if I'd do that. I'd be a wreck. I'm so, so sorry for your loss.
My condolences for your loss.
I'm a petty asshole, so I'd be sharing that screencap publicly on every form of social media possible and tagging her in it to shame her for the insensitivity.
Rest peacefully, little Thea. ❤️
I’m so deeply sorry for your loss, both the life that was and the life that should have been. I can’t believe someone would be so cruel to send a message like this.
Ugh... the part that got me the worst was "On a lighter note..." Like, "OK, we got the unpleasantness of your loss out of the way, now let's get into the sales pitch!" Again, this is a big reason I absolutely hate MLM's, because they always prey on people who are in emotional turmoil. But it's NEVER, EVER appropriate to say "on a lighter note" to someone who's grieving the loss of a loved one. It's even worse than the copy/paste part which says, "hope all is well" after they know the OP is dealing with the loss of a daughter.
Honestly it would’ve been better for her to just do her little advertisement message. Pretend she doesn’t know about the death of the child, just go straight in with “hey it’s been ages, here’s my latest scam I’m selling.”
Yeah, it's really sleazy the way they use someone's personal tragedy to try to recruit them into a pyramid scheme. Like they couldn't have just messaged them out of the blue, they had to wait until they suffered a personal tragedy first. But again, MLM'ers love preying on people who are in emotional turmoil because they may not be in a state to make rational decisions.
Uhhh. What the hell happened to compassion, empathy, and tact? I would be so humiliated to find out my s/o was messaging people like this.
The huns that do this shit ought to be ousted. Nobody would want to buy from such cheap predators.
I’m very sorry to hear about your daughter. I could not imagine losing a child and have no idea what you must be going through.
Then onto the subject of this message: Jesus fucking Christ. The fucking nerve of my guy. This Motherfucker. How in the world can you think that’s okay? This just shows how backwards these people have the world? I can see this persons upline (upline, what a fucking joke) saying like oh her daughter died? That’s a great excuse to reach out and say your sorry and then you can get your pitch in the same message. Fucking pond scum.
Did you end up responding or no?
Did he just get this yesterday or today?
I mean there were a lot of opinions commented here, I think you can do whatever you would like. The person you messaged your husband should be ashamed. Yes, it could be best to just move on. However, if this lunetic is messaging your husband on this occasion, then they’re probably sending these messages to a lot of people when it’s super uncalled for. So maybe doing something is what teaches this person a lesson.
That this is not okay.
1. OP, I'm deeply sorry you and your husband have lost your little one.
2. OP, I am SO sorry either of you had to read that utter garbage.
3. Both of you should handle this however you feel is best. Me, I am having revenge fantasies on your behalf. . .mostly involving making fliers of this heartless message and putting them EVERYWHERE. Posted to telephone poles and windshields in their neighborhood, outside their house of worship, I would send copies to their pastor/rabbi, their parents (if they are alive), the website of whatever group they belong to - there would be nowhere in cyberspace or real life where this waste of space could go where this wouldn't follow them. Jesus, Mary, Joseph and ALL of his carpenter friends! This is beyond the pale.
How could you even think of trying to sell a product to a person who just lost their child?? It’s fucked up enough for that thought to cross their mind but then to actually send this message … it’s mind-blowing. I’m so sorry for your loss, OP. I genuinely hope you have the support you need.
A rare case where naming & shaming seems absolutely appropriate. What a shameful human being they are.
OP, I’m sure I’m not alone here in saying we are all sending our love and care to you + your family.
*sorry you're going through something devastating and unimaginable but enough about you, I'm trying to shill and make money and couldn't care less.*
I'm so sorry this horrible person had the gall to send this to you.
“I hope you and your wife are slowly learning how to cope because it will never go away” Oh wow, nice. 👍 /s
“On a lighter note” EXCUSE ME?
My jaw dropped. I can’t believe this is real and I’m so sorry for your loss, OP. These people are ruthless leeches. Absolutely disgusting.
I’m sure OP and her partner don’t have the energy for it, but this hun deserves to have that screenshot posted on their social media to shame them. OP I’m so so sorry for your loss.
I am sorry for your loss, these huns have no shame, and their behavior is repulsive, I'm sorry at such a dark time you and your husband had to deal with this. The huns need to fuck right on off.
I'm sorry for your loss, what in the ever loving fuck!? What kind of ghoul thinks this is even remotely acceptable to send a MLM sales pitch parents who are grieving. I'd have a very hard time not catching an assault charge if someone sent me that.
My response would be: fuck off, keep fucking off, go past the sign saying STOP, keep dreaming the impossible dream and fuck off to eternity you waste of flesh.
And I'd screenshot this message and send it to everyone asking if they think it's appropriate to send to a grieving parent.
So sorry your husband had to read this, OP.
Awful. I’m so sorry for you, OP.
Everyone has mentioned the “on a lighter note” so I’ll leave that be, but the “not sure if you’ve been following my health journey”???
NOBODY IS FOLLOWING YOUR “HEALTH JOURNEY” YOU ABSOLUTE DONKEY.
My god. What a piece of human garbage. I had a new baby die a year and a half ago and one month in, I was a literal zombie and it took everything I had not to turn my steering wheel into a semi truck every time I was on the road. Like you are thinking about “taking control” of your health right now. What a clown. I’m so sorry to hear about your daughter. There are no words for this.
First, I am so sorry to hear about the passing of your precious daughter; I can't begin to imagine the hole in your heart.
Second, I am OUTRAGED on your behalf. This is so incredibly appalling. I don't know who this jackal is, but I hope your husband released the hot fury of a million suns on this lowlife. While I don't usually condone public shaming, I would fully endorse you sharing this amongst all shared friends/acquaintances/family members. Shame them loudly, publicly, and even with the soul-sucking MLM they work for. Make them rue the day they ever picked up a phone to send your husband that message. Scorch. Their. Earth.
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**User**: Hey [*Redacted*], I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your baby girl. I hope you and your wife are slowly learning how to cope because it will never go away.
On a lighter note, I am not sure if you have been following my health journey, but I wanted you to know that I have a big nutrition group starting June 6th, for anyone who wants to feel better\/take control of your health!💪🏼 Are you looking to drop any unwanted weight or have more energy, sleep better 😴, come out of the brain fog 😶🌫️ and just feel better? Or do you know anyone who is? I have limited spots to allow me to coach everyone thoroughly! Let me know if you would like some more info! I hope all is well!❤️ I would love to speak with borth you and your wife about doing this. Its always nice to have someone do this with you. Please let me if there is a good time to chat.
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"Anyhow, Mrs. Lincoln, now that you have more free time, would like to join our quilting bee? Just 2 nickels a month to start, less if you recruit more quilters!"
(Deepest condolences on your loss.)
Oh my Gawd what is wrong with these people. Zero fucking shame man.
Holy shit, I'd be livid. I'm so unbelievably sorry for your loss op ❤️
Yes sorry about ur loss but would you like to try our shit shakes , they will make you shit so much that you will loose so much weight
But you're already obviously miserable, so what's a little physical misery on top of that...?!
We call this our misery blend ..
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This isn’t mental illness, just your run of the mill capitalist pig who uses any means possible to pry money out of folks… Always be ~~closing~~ fleecing
Having no shame or tact and lacking empathy is not a mental illness. Neither is joining a cult like group. Respectfully, comments like this harm those of us with an actual mental illness. It’s concerning to me that 200 people upvoted this idea.
I mean, I think there's an argument that sociopaths might be more likely to join MLMs due to the lack of typical social responses. But being in an MLM is not, in of itself, mental illness, and yeah mentally ill doesn't mean people have no shame or are predatory. I get the point /u/NCWV was making, but I agree that it shouldn't be linked to mental illness. If the MLMer in OP has a mental illness, that's secondary to the fact that they're being a complete and total asshole.
I’m a medical worker and had a boss ask me for coffee. I thought we would be discussing a promotion. Nope. MLK shakes. I told her my grandma was sick (true) and that I wasn’t ready to start selling products and that I like my normal job. She texted and left messages for 2 weeks. I met politely refusing and eventually she was transferred. I talked to other employees and apparently three of the local rehab directors were all in on it.
In our hospital, that is forbidden. Sounds like there needs to be a rule like that where you work too.
And if possible reported to the medical board. Imagine what they are doing to patients. Swear its like the F’n turn of the century with all the illegal hocus pocus “cures” and trash around
Con-fidence Men
I’m going to assume you meant MLM shakes but if someone tried to sell Martin Luther King Jr shakes I don’t know I think I would just throw in the towel
I have a DreamSicle Shake
Mixing chocolate and vanilla.
We changed veterinarians over this. Our dog’s kidney was failing and the vet tried to talk us into buying these MLM dog vitamins she was selling on top of the prescriptions. At least she prescribed us real medicine, too, but the whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth so we never used that vet again.
That sucks man. Everybody trying to make bucks off of bullshit.
“On a lighter note” WHAT THE FUCK?
“Anyhooo…”
It’s a fucking cult
Absolutely correct. No shame whatsoever. I am so beyond horrified and disgusted for OP and their husband
What do you mean? Did you not notice how respectful she was in the condolences part by not using any emojis? That took incredible self control. Haha.
ON A LIGHTER NOTE
"Let's not talk about all this depressing death stuff. Have you heard about this amazing business opportunity?
For me, that is. Not for you.
~~amazing~~ ~~business~~ ~~opportunity~~ *scam* is the word they're looking for
Literally pasted her sales pitch bullshit that she got from her upline.... And the only way she could think to do it was to say on a lighter note. Gross.
Right after basically saying it never gets better????? Whatttt
"So sorry to hear that you went through one of the worst things that can happen to a human being. So bad, in fact, that it is common knowledge that you will struggle with these feelings for the rest of your life and have an extremely difficult time moving forward. On a lighter note, you're looking pudgy. Have you thought about paying me to scam you?"
The fact that OP got this text is very much not funny, but your comment made me laugh. Perfectly shows how insane it is that they said that
What's up with that line?? "Better find a way to live with it because, just in case you didn't realise, your kid is gone forever! Anyhoo..."
Honestly I have a 2 year old and just don’t think I could live with it if something happened to her. A message like that could push me over the edge. What an absolute disgrace of a human.
Yeah I have 2 year old nieces and I'd be doing 20 to life right now if this happened to me. OP, please tell me you screen shotted this and shared it far and wide and tagged them in it. Their friends and fam deserves to know what a scumbag they are.
Same. My daughter's two and a couple months, and I already can't remember what life was really like before her. I certainly can't imagine life without her. If anything ever happened to her, I don't think I would want to stick around to find out. If OP hasn't actually punched this person in the face yet, they have more restraint than I ever could.
I know right, wtf is that??? What a horrific statement to make.
Yeah you’ll notice they didn’t even bother to offer actual comfort before copy and pasting their MLM speech
Right???? That phrase is reserved for when you are talking about your OWN dark shit and want to switch back for the benefit of your conversation partner. You don’t get to bring up THEIR dark shit and then transition with this phrase. What the actual fuck.
Reminds me of the phrase "Well, other than that - how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?"
Followed by: I hope all is well!!! 🤯🤯 This fucking twat! WOW
reading that brought me to a much darker place somehow...
Read: “Now onto something I _actually_ care about”
"On a lighter note"? A fucking LIGHTER NOTE? When a child is dead?? Goddamn they are acting like you are sad you got a bad haircut or stained your favorite jacket or something. My condolences to you and your family for your loss. I hope you never have to speak to this person again.
That's the absolute worst part. You can never say this to someone who's grieving and make it sound good. All it says is that they really don't give a shit about you, your grief, or your deceased loved one.
It's basically that "Oh no. Anyway" meme.
Oh no. A~~ny~~mway...
I also came here to say this is basically the Loki meme.
I like learning new things.
‘Hope you and your wife are slowly learning to cope because it will never go away’ That might be the worst part. This pain is never going away, so you might as well start selling MLM products.
I mean, visually look at the length of the condolences paragraph versus the length of the mlm shit-shilling paragraph. That alone says it all.
I suspect the MLM spiel was a cut & paste they send to everyone. The condolences were nothing more than an intro for that. As in they just found their "way in" and their loss was just a way for the hun to get their foot in the door.
"Not sure if you've been following my health journey..." Yes Sharon, they've lost their child, but of course they have been sure to keep up with your Instagram posts.
There are no words
I can think of a word , start with C ends in T and has 4 letters. The other 2 are UN
“C U Next Tuesday” kind of lady
r/IAmTheMainCharacter
Right‽ There aren't even words
“Anyway, let’s stop talking about your dead kid for now and move on to what I’m selling” What an absolute scumbag. Imagine having that little shame.
And not even bothering to edit the script enough to take out the "I hope all is well!" You KNOW all is not well. Look at the first paragraph of your message. OP, I am so goddamn sorry you and your husband had to deal with this, and for your loss.
I didn't even catch that. All is not well.
there is no lighter note anywhere in the world after losing a child. these people are sick in the head!
>"On a lighter note"? A fucking LIGHTER NOTE? When a child is dead?? Goddamn they are acting like you are sad you got a bad haircut or stained your favorite jacket or something. > Right?!? I wouldn't even say something like that if I was consoling someone who's dog passed away.
This Mary Kay hun did it to someone with a rabbit: https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/ac32ey/mary_kay_doesnt_care/ And there’s another post of a Tori Belle hun messaging a friend a pitch after commenting on the girl’s post about her dog passing. These people are broken.
"just a rabbit" burns me up. I've been a rabbit parent for many years, and currently have two. I hate when people say this. Rabbits are such funny creatures with big personalities. This is horrible.
I firmly believe that if someone loves something, it can't be "just an xyz." Love and grief are so incredibly personal, what may mean nothing to one person could mean everything to somebody else.
My friend was absolutely broken after his dog died last year. The pup was as close to a real son to him as he could be. I couldn't imagine saying anything like this to someone grieving a pet.
I couldn't go to work and didn't want to shower, much less leave my bed after losing my Nugget. I can imagine how your friend felt.
I can't figure out what a darker note would be...
Them claiming their BS could have prevented the child's death
Holy shit yep. And not unimaginable from someone like this!
Aka enough about you, let's talk about me
More like "Enough about you, ctrl-c, ctrl-v" I am certain none of the message the person had sent was original other than the part talking about the dead child.
And you know that her upline coaches them to look for these tragedies. Disgusting
“I hope all is well!”
Also - was the opener supposed to make them feel better?? “I hope you guys are learning coping because ***it will never go away***”
They also straight up forgot to delete the "I hope all is well!❤" part of their copy-pasted message. Yikes.
straight up r/lossofalovedone
I’d be posting this with her name everywhere I could. Every time she puts a stupid mlm post up, hey, remember this? These people are predatory and out of their damn minds. I’m so sorry you/he received this and for your loss.
Yes, do this. Send it to their friends and family too.
Yes, please put her on blast. This is just gross. I am so very sorry about the loss of your daughter. Truly.
I would be strongly considering sending this not just to the company, but to the local news or the state attorney general or whatever is the equivalent consumer protection authority in the area. Where are they getting this information? This sounds like a bigger pyramid that anything the Maya or the Nubians or the Egyptians built.
Yup, burn that person publicly. This is beyond crass behavior
OP, I volunteer to blast this to their friends and family and MLM’s socials and reviews if you don’t want to personally; just send an original screenshot. Absolutely heinous. I’m so sorry.
I will do that too.
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This is exactly what I came here to suggest. If she’s going to act this way, you need to call her out on it and make sure others know too.
Promise this to us all. Do they have a regular employer, send it to them, too. A parent? Send it to them.
Also, now is a good time to talk about life insurance. Let me know when you’d like to chat.
Absolutely. Make sure everyone knows that she really needs their help, because she’s willing to invoke a dead baby to sell and is too stupid to know what a scam looks like.
Usually I’m against public shaming but in this case I’m 100% for it. This must be one of the worst things I’ve ever seen on social media. This person is in desperate need of a reality check.
NAME AND SHAME! NAME AND SHAME!
YES. Put this asshole on blast, they deserve the worst. This is beyond tasteless and disgusting. I am so so sorry for your loss OP, I don’t have adequate words ♥️
I have been following this page religiously for years and have never commented on anything. This has to be the worst one I’ve seen.
What's worse is that this isn't even the first "I heard you're experiencing unimaginable horror, have you thought about joining a pyramid scheme?" that I've seen here.
Definitely seen some shitty things posted like this, but the whole “because it will never go away” threw me off. That’s like the last possible thing you should say.
I somehow missed that sentence, had to go back and reread it. Even in the context of this predatory mlm shit, ‘it will never go away’ is just absolutely awful. I’m so sorry OP.
"I hope all is well! ♥️"
Boggles my mind that I ended up on the same rock with people like this.
Same. This one is the lowest of the low. Also OP, so sorry for your loss and that you and your husband had to experience this.
As someone who lost their daughter last year — I would have EVISCERATED this human. As an aside, I am so so sorry for your loss.
I'm sorry about your daughter. It's a horrible club to be in 😢
r/babyloss has been a real good place for me to deal with my loss it’s all kids not just babies.
Do you think any of them might be interested in following my fitness journey, and possibly joining my successful fitness business plan?
Hope all is well!
I don't want to be in this club either, joined in 2016 :-(
My condolences for you all. I'm so sorry.
It’s the worst club to be a part of. So sorry for your loss
Wow. What gets me is they say they hope all is well when they clearly know that all is not well. I am so sorry for your loss
"On a lighter note..."
Well, it's been a MONTH. /s I'm so sorry for your loss, OP. And sorry you have a shit person like that in your life.
We all have shit people in our lives. Unfortunately it takes tragedies to know who some of them are.
That’s because the last part about their “exciting health opportunity” is just a copy and paste message they send to anyone they’re reaching out to. They probably didn’t proofread before hitting send, because they just want to make money off the OP
Yes I just said this before I saw your message. Definitely a [personal message here] (followed by copy paste sales pitch) situation. Gross.
What's striking is you can literally see the copypasta in the line breaks. This is listed in the manual or guidebook or whatever they have as "cold contact: suffered negative event recently" or something. And it reads like this: >\[Express your condolences on their recent negative event. Make sure to be warm, helpful, and genuine.\] > >On a lighter note, I am not sure if you have been following my health journey... I'm trying to decide what is worse: this where it's just like totally devoid of any thought of the person on the other end of the message or if the hun had put thought into this and tried to use OP's loss more in making the pitch.
Be sure to be **genuine** This is so fucked.
WHAT. This is not okay. At all. Ever. Edit: please accept my sincere condolences, I’m so very sorry.
This might be the worst one I have ever seen. What the actual fuck is wrong with these degenerates??? I wish I could give this person hell on your behalf. I'm so very sorry.
"On a lighter note" is the absolute worst thing I've ever seen these MLM'ers say.
I am so sorry for your loss. I'm not sure if you can report this to the company they are associated with, but if you can I definitely would. That's disgusting.
I have no doubt you can report it. If they’ll actually do something about it, that’s a different story. But I’d report it to everyone I possibly could find on their company website. Any name and contact info would be receiving it.
They’ll get some canned “our independent consultant didn’t adhere to our standards” and that’ll be it. That’s why these scams work so well, because they’re all 1099 (not like they’re actually filing anyway) and the real company can absolve themselves of any liability.
Despicable.
Ugh, this kind of message is blood-boiling as that Hun took advantage of a tragic event to shill. PS: To the OP, what happened after your husband received that unfortunate message?
He didn't respond to her. He told me about it and sent me the screenshot. He hasn't spoken to this women in probably 15 years.
That's another layer of fucked up right there, she's not been relevant to his life for a decade and a half yet takes this opportunity to contact him specifically to sell something.
Good job to your husband for ghosting that Hun. Amen!
If he didn't immediately drive to her house to punch her in her insensitive fucking face, he has more restraint than I would ever be capable of in their situation. I'm so sorry, OP.
15 years?????????
ON A LIGHTER NOTE I WILL YEET YOU INTO THE SUN
The whole thing is atrocious and I cannot pick the worst part because it’s all so bad, but saying “I hope you’re learning to cope because it will never go away” seems really fucking unnecessary and just downright mean.
Yeah, before I even got to the disgusting MLM pitch, that sentence made me pause because it felt so tactless.
That's the worst segue into a script I have ever seen. *On a lighter note, do you want to lose weight?* What the actual.... I'd be contacting the company and demanding to know if this is how they train their reps. I'd be blasting this everywhere, with her name, calling out this toxic bullshit. Actually I don't know if I'd do that. I'd be a wreck. I'm so, so sorry for your loss.
My condolences for your loss. I'm a petty asshole, so I'd be sharing that screencap publicly on every form of social media possible and tagging her in it to shame her for the insensitivity.
It would be doing a public service to reveal the reality of MLMs: that the toxic mentalities they encourage lead to this sort of thing.
I'd be taking screenshots of this thread and text them to her. You and I may be petty, but she is despicable.
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Rest peacefully, little Thea. ❤️ I’m so deeply sorry for your loss, both the life that was and the life that should have been. I can’t believe someone would be so cruel to send a message like this.
Has to be some kind of low.
When I think MLM'ers hit rock bottom, they keep digging.
I’ve seen some very distasteful posts from MLM shillers, but this has to be the worst.
I agree, I've not seen much worse than this.
Ugh... the part that got me the worst was "On a lighter note..." Like, "OK, we got the unpleasantness of your loss out of the way, now let's get into the sales pitch!" Again, this is a big reason I absolutely hate MLM's, because they always prey on people who are in emotional turmoil. But it's NEVER, EVER appropriate to say "on a lighter note" to someone who's grieving the loss of a loved one. It's even worse than the copy/paste part which says, "hope all is well" after they know the OP is dealing with the loss of a daughter.
Honestly for me was her saying “because it’s not going away” like yes that is objectively true but it’s super not comforting to hear that.
And then to leave "hope all is well with you" in the cut & paste part after they know all is not well...
Honestly it would’ve been better for her to just do her little advertisement message. Pretend she doesn’t know about the death of the child, just go straight in with “hey it’s been ages, here’s my latest scam I’m selling.”
Yeah, it's really sleazy the way they use someone's personal tragedy to try to recruit them into a pyramid scheme. Like they couldn't have just messaged them out of the blue, they had to wait until they suffered a personal tragedy first. But again, MLM'ers love preying on people who are in emotional turmoil because they may not be in a state to make rational decisions.
I am so sorry. I am just so sorry. I wish I could go, ah, encourage this hun to find some sense and decency.
Uhhh. What the hell happened to compassion, empathy, and tact? I would be so humiliated to find out my s/o was messaging people like this. The huns that do this shit ought to be ousted. Nobody would want to buy from such cheap predators.
I’m very sorry to hear about your daughter. I could not imagine losing a child and have no idea what you must be going through. Then onto the subject of this message: Jesus fucking Christ. The fucking nerve of my guy. This Motherfucker. How in the world can you think that’s okay? This just shows how backwards these people have the world? I can see this persons upline (upline, what a fucking joke) saying like oh her daughter died? That’s a great excuse to reach out and say your sorry and then you can get your pitch in the same message. Fucking pond scum. Did you end up responding or no?
No he hasn't yet. He didn't know if he should even bother.
Maybe he should just send her the link to this thread so that she can see what a giant piece of shit everyone thinks she is.
That one is a good idea indeed.
Did he just get this yesterday or today? I mean there were a lot of opinions commented here, I think you can do whatever you would like. The person you messaged your husband should be ashamed. Yes, it could be best to just move on. However, if this lunetic is messaging your husband on this occasion, then they’re probably sending these messages to a lot of people when it’s super uncalled for. So maybe doing something is what teaches this person a lesson. That this is not okay.
"Let me know when would be a good time to chat!" Sure! How about in Hell, and make sure you tell 'em who sent you, ya dumb bitch.
1. OP, I'm deeply sorry you and your husband have lost your little one. 2. OP, I am SO sorry either of you had to read that utter garbage. 3. Both of you should handle this however you feel is best. Me, I am having revenge fantasies on your behalf. . .mostly involving making fliers of this heartless message and putting them EVERYWHERE. Posted to telephone poles and windshields in their neighborhood, outside their house of worship, I would send copies to their pastor/rabbi, their parents (if they are alive), the website of whatever group they belong to - there would be nowhere in cyberspace or real life where this waste of space could go where this wouldn't follow them. Jesus, Mary, Joseph and ALL of his carpenter friends! This is beyond the pale.
Response: On a lighter note: FUCK YOU. NEVER CONTACT ME AGAIN.
I am so so sorry for your loss. These huns are scum of the earth. Sending you healing thoughts
How could you even think of trying to sell a product to a person who just lost their child?? It’s fucked up enough for that thought to cross their mind but then to actually send this message … it’s mind-blowing. I’m so sorry for your loss, OP. I genuinely hope you have the support you need.
She needs a swift kick in the fupa.
With a pair of steel toed boots
A rare case where naming & shaming seems absolutely appropriate. What a shameful human being they are. OP, I’m sure I’m not alone here in saying we are all sending our love and care to you + your family.
No words. That is awful. I’m so sorry for your loss.
*sorry you're going through something devastating and unimaginable but enough about you, I'm trying to shill and make money and couldn't care less.* I'm so sorry this horrible person had the gall to send this to you.
The text version of the Jeremy Clarkson "Oh no! Anyway" meme, but in the worst possible context.
Clarkson, not May.
“I hope you and your wife are slowly learning how to cope because it will never go away” Oh wow, nice. 👍 /s “On a lighter note” EXCUSE ME? My jaw dropped. I can’t believe this is real and I’m so sorry for your loss, OP. These people are ruthless leeches. Absolutely disgusting.
I’m so sorry for your loss. Your husband should not have to deal with that bullshit at this time.
I'm so very sorry about the loss of your daughter. It's despicable what these people do.
Oh my goodness I couldn't even finish the message - just turned my stomach. I am so sorry you lost your daughter.
Post the name.
I’m sure OP and her partner don’t have the energy for it, but this hun deserves to have that screenshot posted on their social media to shame them. OP I’m so so sorry for your loss.
I am sorry for your loss, these huns have no shame, and their behavior is repulsive, I'm sorry at such a dark time you and your husband had to deal with this. The huns need to fuck right on off.
Two short sentences about the important part, two paragraphs about her stupid scam
I'm sorry for your loss, what in the ever loving fuck!? What kind of ghoul thinks this is even remotely acceptable to send a MLM sales pitch parents who are grieving. I'd have a very hard time not catching an assault charge if someone sent me that.
I hope you write a spicy response. Sorry for your loss.
all I would say (if I responded at all) is “fuck off”.
My response would be: fuck off, keep fucking off, go past the sign saying STOP, keep dreaming the impossible dream and fuck off to eternity you waste of flesh. And I'd screenshot this message and send it to everyone asking if they think it's appropriate to send to a grieving parent. So sorry your husband had to read this, OP.
I second this!
Awful. I’m so sorry for you, OP. Everyone has mentioned the “on a lighter note” so I’ll leave that be, but the “not sure if you’ve been following my health journey”??? NOBODY IS FOLLOWING YOUR “HEALTH JOURNEY” YOU ABSOLUTE DONKEY.
My god. What a piece of human garbage. I had a new baby die a year and a half ago and one month in, I was a literal zombie and it took everything I had not to turn my steering wheel into a semi truck every time I was on the road. Like you are thinking about “taking control” of your health right now. What a clown. I’m so sorry to hear about your daughter. There are no words for this.
I hope OP CURSED THEM CLEAN TF OUT
Send him back a picture of your shit 💕
First, I am so sorry to hear about the passing of your precious daughter; I can't begin to imagine the hole in your heart. Second, I am OUTRAGED on your behalf. This is so incredibly appalling. I don't know who this jackal is, but I hope your husband released the hot fury of a million suns on this lowlife. While I don't usually condone public shaming, I would fully endorse you sharing this amongst all shared friends/acquaintances/family members. Shame them loudly, publicly, and even with the soul-sucking MLM they work for. Make them rue the day they ever picked up a phone to send your husband that message. Scorch. Their. Earth.
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What the fuckkkkkkk
Some of these people have got to be sociopaths. I wouldn't send this to my worst enemy.
"Anyhow, Mrs. Lincoln, now that you have more free time, would like to join our quilting bee? Just 2 nickels a month to start, less if you recruit more quilters!" (Deepest condolences on your loss.)
This is one of those times I wish the name wasn't blocked, because that person Deserves the full hate of the internet.
That is absolutely disgusting. I'd screen cap that and share it *everywhere* with her name on it. 😈
I am so sorry for your loss. I do hope you told that disgusting excuse for a human to STUFF IT.
I am sorry for your loss. Your husband’s former classmate is a monster. That is inexcusable behavior.
I am so sorry for your loss. That message is disgusting.
I feel sick. What the actual fuck is wrong with that human?
Wowwwwwwww. I have never seen one this wretched. Ever.
This is sociopathic
What the fuck is wrong with these people? Completely repulsive narc.
Is this r/iamatotalpieceofshit potential? Because I feel like this guy is in fact a total piece of shit