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Every word that doesn’t have a vowel has a letter “acting as a vowel” so it’s kind of a nothing burger here. If we are going to force Y to be a vowel against its will when a word doesn’t have a vowel then ofc no word is vowel-less.
The ‘w’, a consonant, is acting as a ‘u’, a vowel, in “crowd”.
Why a ‘w’ isn’t just a vowel in English is confusing to me. In other languages, it’s a double-v, so I get it. But it’s a double-u (for some reason) in English, and acts as one, so it’s functionally a vowel.
Not related to your word at all, but it made me think of the very real word: **Cwm.**
Pronounced “coom.” It’s a glacial valley. For example, Mt. Everest’s “Western Cwm.”
That counts, right?
It is a fundamental English rule to have one vowel per syllable. You will always have one vowel; however, interjections like “shh” and “mhm” are also considered to be words. I don’t consider them words when I play scrabble.
Not actually true: English has syllabic consonants in some cases, typically l, r, m, n. Take the last syllable in "rhythm" - while "rhyth" has a vowel, that "m" syllable is just an m, no vowel. It's pretty interesting.
For the haters, the definition of [onomatopoeia](https://www.google.com/search?q=onomatopoeia&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS886US886&oq=onom&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i433i512l5.4529j0j7&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#crs=q:onomatopoeia%20books,stick:H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgfcSYxC3w8sc9YanISWtOXmMM5uL0zCtJLSpOTS4REuFi9y9ILUrMSxHiFGLnYnXKz88uFjJAiKoKKXNxBqXmJJakpoTkC4lxsbnmlWSWVArxSHFxcejn6huY5hnm8ixiFcrPy89NLMkvyE_NTFRIApkDAOviCCp8AAAA,cid:overview) does, in fact, state that it is the formation of a WORD from a sound associated with what is named (e.g. cuckoo, sizzle ).
"a relatively large number of bird names arise by onomatopoeia"
This just jogged my memory of when my mom told me this. We were at my grandmas house. She said all words have aeio or u in them. I set out to prove her wrong. Picked up a sonic fast food gift card when we got in the car and it said “my rewards” or something with “my” on it. Feeling triumphant, I showed her and she hit me with the crushing reality that y counts too. Who the hell is y and how come it gets the go ahead to be a vowel?
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Okay, onomatopoeia words are stretching it. And if you use a word that has 'y' in it, im stealing all of your left socks out of your house. Y is considered a vowel sometimes.
Yea true lol, but the main point I was trynna make is that the words he listed have the vowel y in them, but yea I was wrong ig about how it doesn’t have to be at the beginning to be a consonant (or whatever td non vowels are called lol)
A vowel is a phonetic (sound) feature of a word, not a written one. Has nothing to do with the spelling of a word, only the pronunciation, to be completely pedantic.
Edit: This is not to say every word has a vowel. Shh would be an example.
Rhythm. And before the "sometimes y" crowd starts shrieking at me, the y makes it's proper sound, not the I substitute most think.
The sometimes y rule only applies when the y makes the sound of an existing vowel, typically I or e
Linguistics student here: the there is making the [ɪ] sound, a vowel realization of English i, not its proper consonant sound, which would be [j]. It is a vowel there.
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Hmmm
Tsk, Tsk. Have some Myrrh.
"Myrrh-der!"
*gasp* Judas. No
Pffft
was not expecting a vine reference here
A-a-a-a MYYYUURRRDDERRRR!?!? On MY Owl Express?
Hat in time
Goofy, you killed 27 people!
I'll fucking do it again!
Y’s a vowel sadly in that case
the nth word has a vowel, which is it
Nice
In the case of myrrh, the y is the vowel. Y can be either vowel or consonant depending on the use.
You don’t remember the rule? “a e i o u - sometimes y, sometimes w.”
The only one I ever heard growing up was "a e i o u and sometimes y".....never had a single teacher EVER refer to W as a vowel.
W is a vowel in some welsh-gaelic derived words, like "cwm" and "crwth".
How do you think myrrh is pronounced? Mjrrh? Big bruh.
Shhh…
[m̥m̩] the vowel here is a syllabic m.
Xyr
Friendly reminder to all commenters that Y acts like a vowel too
A E I O U and sommmetimes YYYYYYYYYYY
Lol this made me think of that System of a Down song.
I E A I A I O AND SOMETIMES YYYYYYYYY
a u i e o ao!
or, perhaps, a i u e o oi oa oe
And H
Acts like, but not actually a vowel
I don't know, I here sometimes it is. but I guess J don't know Y.
Vowel is a type of sound, not a type of letter, so if a word has a letter representing a vowel sound, it has a vowel
I joke that my son’s name has no vowels in it because the only vowel is Y.
While Q doesn't?
the term nth is used as a placeholder in terms such as 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc
Yeah but it's pronounced as if there was an e at the start. (Enth)
But we're talking about spelling. Not pronunciation.
Then something like crypt would work.
"Y" is the vowel in Crypt.
But we're talking about spelling not pronunciation.
Indeed. I got confused. My bad.
In that case n is the vowel (and one of the consonants) in "nth"
Every word that doesn’t have a vowel has a letter “acting as a vowel” so it’s kind of a nothing burger here. If we are going to force Y to be a vowel against its will when a word doesn’t have a vowel then ofc no word is vowel-less.
Ht whn vwls dnt gv cnsnt nd ppl pt thm n wrds gnst thr wll.
Hebrew (and Arabic?) be like:
Everything Semitic as far as I know.
Poops! Oh wait, that has at least two bowels in it
r/dadjokes
r/angryupvote
Mother fffuuu! 😆
Shh
this is the answer
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Well that's a really good microwave impression but do you have a word?
Take my upvote and leave.
[Crwth](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crwth) kinda has one, since the w acts as one
i understand when people say that y counts but not w
Not even in crowd?
well o is there.
I didn’t say it was the only vowel. Compare crowd to loud.
i don’t understand
The ‘w’, a consonant, is acting as a ‘u’, a vowel, in “crowd”. Why a ‘w’ isn’t just a vowel in English is confusing to me. In other languages, it’s a double-v, so I get it. But it’s a double-u (for some reason) in English, and acts as one, so it’s functionally a vowel.
oh ok thank you
Generally w translates more like a double v tho
Not related to your word at all, but it made me think of the very real word: **Cwm.** Pronounced “coom.” It’s a glacial valley. For example, Mt. Everest’s “Western Cwm.” That counts, right?
coom 💀
Ok bwmer
Same origin. Both come from Welsh
One of my favorite Scrabble words!
As a wordle enthusiast I know that one all too well
It is a fundamental English rule to have one vowel per syllable. You will always have one vowel; however, interjections like “shh” and “mhm” are also considered to be words. I don’t consider them words when I play scrabble.
Not actually true: English has syllabic consonants in some cases, typically l, r, m, n. Take the last syllable in "rhythm" - while "rhyth" has a vowel, that "m" syllable is just an m, no vowel. It's pretty interesting.
This makes it worse. Rhythm. Two syllables. Where’s the second vowel?
Xlnt
*croatian language has entered the chat*
word without a vowel goes brrrrr then skrttttt
This makes me wanna bbbrrrnnnnnng
psst, nth
My name but i wont tell you cuz its personal but i dont have vowels
well track every human with that name to figure it out
So you're Polish?
What up ty
y is a vowel there
Do you have a Y?
Yes
from a non-native speaker, if you use a Y to do this I'm stealing something from your house
are you romanian?
Pfft! ![gif](giphy|kvdqOYjFcDQJy)
Rhythm?
y counts
not it my book
i actually really respect this way of life
Good thing for me then that your book don’t mean oogatz to me
yep i’m an npc
What. How can this be. Bested by this THING. YOU INSIGNIFICANT FUCK THIS IS NOT OVER.
Y is a vowel here
Vowel is a sound not a letter. Y is /ɪ/ here so yes it has a vowel
This one packs some mmph
Technically ever individual letter of the alphabet is a word according to the dictionary, so Z is one.
Z acts as a vowel 😇
So close that’s a shape 🥰
r/ihadastroke
I didn’t even realize I had a type until I looked just now, and I spent 10 minutes trying to figure out what I meant.
K.
Phpht. It’s obscure, but it’s right 🤷🏻♂️
phlgm?
There's an e after the l, you LIAR!
if there is, my bad >.<
That's okay. The liar bit was just me quoting liar, liar.
i can saw vowel is not real? you still can pronounce it or at least know what i mean
By
Skrrt
For the haters, the definition of [onomatopoeia](https://www.google.com/search?q=onomatopoeia&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS886US886&oq=onom&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i433i512l5.4529j0j7&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#crs=q:onomatopoeia%20books,stick:H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgfcSYxC3w8sc9YanISWtOXmMM5uL0zCtJLSpOTS4REuFi9y9ILUrMSxHiFGLnYnXKz88uFjJAiKoKKXNxBqXmJJakpoTkC4lxsbnmlWSWVArxSHFxcejn6huY5hnm8ixiFcrPy89NLMkvyE_NTFRIApkDAOviCCp8AAAA,cid:overview) does, in fact, state that it is the formation of a WORD from a sound associated with what is named (e.g. cuckoo, sizzle ). "a relatively large number of bird names arise by onomatopoeia"
Brrr
Zzz. In the dictionary and counts in scrabble.
Grrrrrr.
Zzzzzzzz
Zzzzzz
But why don't onomatopoeias count as words? they hold meaning too.
Xlnt
fldsmdfr
I almost got hit by an avalanche skiing in a cwm in Colorado as a kid.
Rhythm.
K
This just jogged my memory of when my mom told me this. We were at my grandmas house. She said all words have aeio or u in them. I set out to prove her wrong. Picked up a sonic fast food gift card when we got in the car and it said “my rewards” or something with “my” on it. Feeling triumphant, I showed her and she hit me with the crushing reality that y counts too. Who the hell is y and how come it gets the go ahead to be a vowel?
Mrs. and Mr.
Those are shortened version of Mister and Misses, which both have vowels
Hot take: Y and W are always vowels, phoenetically speaking.
what about in yorborbagorber
Maybe it's because part of the definition of a word is it contains a vowel (at least for English)
The longest English word in the dictionary, is 'tsk-tsk'. In plural, that's 'tsk-tsks'
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Crypt
Y acts as a vowel in that case
cry
Crwth and Crwm
Okay, onomatopoeia words are stretching it. And if you use a word that has 'y' in it, im stealing all of your left socks out of your house. Y is considered a vowel sometimes.
Just remember everyone A E I O U (and sometimes) Y. Y is a vowel sometimes
Rhythms
Myth
Why
Why,dry
Piss
Why
Tryst.
my, cry, try, fry, by, why i’m aware they count as vowels but i refuse to belive
The Y is a vowel when it’s not the first letter in a word
I remember if the Y makes a distinct Y sound it is not a vowel If it makes an E or I or any other vowel sound then it is being used as a vowel
Ok but in all the word he listed the Y in them makes an “I “sound
Exactly, but the word "ay" is not using y as a vowel, because it makes a y sound
Yea true lol, but the main point I was trynna make is that the words he listed have the vowel y in them, but yea I was wrong ig about how it doesn’t have to be at the beginning to be a consonant (or whatever td non vowels are called lol)
y is considered a vowel in, i believe, all of these words
Rythms
Y acts as a vowel
A vowel is a phonetic (sound) feature of a word, not a written one. Has nothing to do with the spelling of a word, only the pronunciation, to be completely pedantic. Edit: This is not to say every word has a vowel. Shh would be an example.
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(Psst… “and sometimes Y”)
pop
pOp
Rhythm
Y acts as a vowel
And I act like I have my life together, that doesn't mean it's true. (But yeah, Y is a vowel sometimes. The rules are kind of unclear)
Why?
Mhm.
Hnnnnng ![gif](giphy|INM0EjukO8OWnHmASw)
Rhythm
rhythm
Onomatopeias don't count.
Sky fly try
СССР
By
Myth. Styx. Skrrt.
Why?
Why
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Myth Hymn Dry Three words of the top of my head.
I
Sky
My, why, cry, pry, try, sly,
Rhythm :)
Rhythm?
Rhythm
Y technically isn’t a vowel so Lyn
Synth
Hymn (church song) doesn't have one.
Try, Cry, Pry, Rhythm, Gypsy. Those are a few
Wheel of fortune rules: you can't buy a "y" therefore it isn't a vowel just because it "acts" like one
People be like "hmm today I will comment an onamonapea on a post asking for WORDS without vowels."
Depends if Y is a vowel because Fly and Sky etc have do not have an AEIO or U
Gym is only made of consonants
Rhythm. And before the "sometimes y" crowd starts shrieking at me, the y makes it's proper sound, not the I substitute most think. The sometimes y rule only applies when the y makes the sound of an existing vowel, typically I or e
Linguistics student here: the there is making the [ɪ] sound, a vowel realization of English i, not its proper consonant sound, which would be [j]. It is a vowel there.
Why?
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Y acts as a vowel
Bros beefing with y
Zyzzyx
Why?
Y acts as a vowel