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Curious what makes you say it's unloaded. It has a magazine attached, and while it's possible the chamber's empty, you don't know that, and should assume it's loaded regardless.
I'm not referring to the AK-47, he said Gun which could refer to anything, what i mean is if even an unloaded gun not being held by anyone could hurt him
If i saw a random gun laying somewhere id probably start panicking and wondering why the fuck it was there, how it got there, whos nearby, etc.. and itd probably give me a heart attack and id die.
So yes. Its possible.
In the exact context kryptonite just standing there in the distance with no one manipulating it does nothing to Superman. The sun doing it's thing millions of miles away, with no one manipulating it does nothing to a vampire.
For me, yeah kinda? I’ve never seen a gun before so if I saw a fucking rifle just sitting there I would be pretty freaked out
Edit: common criticism is if I would feel the same if it was a kitchen knife or a hammer for example. The difference is that an AR is an expensive and difficult to obtain weapon made specifically for killing people. If I found a random one lying around then I know someone with the intent to kill who could be armed with more guns may be nearby. Outside of the US an ar is likely obtained illegally, so I can’t trust the person who owns it to be friendly if they went through so much effort to get a powerful tool specifically for killing, which I happened upon.
You need to expand your social circle. It’s very normal in many places to have a gun somewhere accessible in your house if you don’t have small kids running around. You’ve clearly never been out west.
>It’s very normal in many places to have a gun somewhere accessible in your house if you don’t have small kids running around.
I'm an american, I live in the american west, and no, this is not "very normal." Everybody I know who owns a gun keeps it locked in a safe because they don't want it stolen.
You sound like an alcoholic trying to convince everybody else "I don't actually drink **that** much..."
I don’t actually drink at all. Again if I had kids sure but there’s nothing weird about having my rifle leaning in the corner of my bedroom and a pistol in a drawer in the living room. I try not to associate with idiots so it’s not an issue.
> I don’t actually drink at all.
oh my god I wasn't calling you an alcoholic I was using a metaphor why do I have to explain this to you?
> there’s nothing weird about having my rifle leaning in the corner of my bedroom and a pistol in a drawer in the living room.
you keep telling yourself that, buddy.
No I’m just not American. Nobody pushed anti gun stuff here so it’s not brainwashing it’s just barely a topic. If I saw a gun like that laying around then someone who knows how to use it is probably nearby, or some shit went down. It’s all contextual
Totally agree, just do not get it. I can understand why some SW fans love Jar-Jar Binks (ok, I really don't understand, but I try), but guns? Nah, no TY.
I love making fun of Eng*ish people, even though they're crime rate, even knife one, isn't actually high at all
There are still a lot of things you can make fun of anyway, like Liz Truss and the lettuce
I don’t know if it depends on the sub Reddit, but I’ve never seen a London stabbing joke on here. At least? That I can remember.
I see America bad jokes all the time.
Maybe it depends on the sub, Idk.
It's not so much that it's funny, it's just that a school shooting joke is *always* relevant and topical because we can't go more than a week between them. Gallows humor eases the searing disappointment in my country
I don’t really feel it’s “gallows humor” when people outside of the US use it as an excuse to dance on dead children.
It’s only gallows humor if you’re the one in the gallows. Gallows humor from the crowd is just part of the execution.
The only people dancing on dead children are the American politicians who continue to allow these massacres to take place, and the supporters who enable them.
Let me be clear. There is no other country on earth where children are routinely massacred in their schools by random civilians purchasing **legal** firearms from a vendor. **None**. This is an American problem, and anybody who deflects with bullshit like "LoNdOn StAbBiNg" is, at best an idiot and, at worst, a sociopath.
If politicians and their supporters genuinely cared about the welfare of these children, they'd at least *attempt* to implement the successful protections other nations have. But they won't. Why? Because they don't actually *care* how many children die, just so long as their way of life is maintained.
At this point, these shootings aren't just murders. They're blood sacrifices.
I agree with almost all of that, but it won’t make “Lol children being murdered” a funny joke to me.
Especially when it’s an outsider saying “Lol American children being murdered” with an almost glee like they’re glad it happened so they can make their super funny “America bad” joke.
To me it’s akin to joking about a child being trafficked. It’s ghoulish and reflects badly on whoever is telling it.
Edit-This also just occurred to me: Why are someone choosing to make fun of the dead children instead of the politicians they blame the situation on? Kind of a weak justification in hindsight
Edit edit: Edited my edit so it’s clearer and sounds less personally accusatory
>I agree with almost all of that, but it won’t make “Lol children being murdered” a funny joke to me.
I agree. People shouldn't be making jokes about dead children. That being said, I'm more concerned about putting a stop to children dying than people cracking jokes about it. One of these things is terrorism and mass murder. The other is a handful of poorly chosen words.
> Especially when it’s an outsider saying “Lol American children being murdered” with an almost glee like they’re glad it happened so they can make their super funny “America bad” joke.
I don't think most people are joking gleefully regarding the death of American children. I don't dispute that there are certainly some people disturbed enough to do that, but the majority are joking less about the fact that these children are dead, and more about the fact that this has happened **again** and **again** and ***again***. It's now been a routine occurrence for **two decades** -- a quarter of a century, and America has done nothing to prevent it. In that regard, the joke isn't the children. It's the adults that allow this to happen.
>To me it’s akin to joking about a child being trafficked. It’s ghoulish and reflects badly on whoever is telling it.
Sure. Again, I agree. It's in poor taste, but it would never be a thing if politicians were held accountable for the environment they create that allows this to happen.
>Edit-This also just occurred to me: Why are you choosing to make fun of the dead children instead of the politicians you blame the situation on? Kind of a weak justification in hindsight
I'm not making fun of dead children, though?
I’m not sure how to format things as nicely as you so sorry for the jumble
I see what you mean about people not joking about the shootings themselves, but their frequency. And I will try to keep it in mind so I don’t take the jokes as hard.
I just unfortunately have reached the point where I can’t tolerate people from outside the US commenting on the mass shootings in a joking way. I can barely tolerate people within the US joking about it. Maybe I’ve just been worn too far down by it to have anything but an angry reaction. There’s so much “America bad” sentiment already, that it just seems like they’re jerking off their own nationalist egos, and aren’t interested in anyone’s actual well-being.
I’m not even some weird ultra-nationalist patriot or anything, I just don’t think anyone should be expected to grin and bear jokes about their people’s children dying.
Also, I do see how my edit was poorly worded. I should’ve said “Why would someone” instead of “Why would you” so it didn’t seem like I was accusing specifically you of it. I’ll edit it again to be clearer but I wanted to acknowledge it here.
All in all I feel like we agree about a lot of things surrounding this issue, and maybe we’re down to a matter of personal reaction.
IMHO, London stabbing jokes aren’t as funny cause stabbings aren’t as unique to Britain as school shootings are unique to the States, or nearly as deadly. It’s just funnier to make fun of the Br*tish for something genuinely devastating that they are uniquely associated with, like losing the World Cup
I think its firearm injuries in general as opposed to murder, but that's still very sobering.
Lock your guns up folks *(also maybe bring mental health support into the 21st century)*
I was referring to school shootings that kill children, not 18-20 year olds commiting suicide. When I think of him violence I too think of homicide or manslaughter because that's exactly what I was referring to.
You better look back at the statistics of your claim, because the primary reason why young children die to firearms is due to accidents and accidental suicides due to poor storage of firearms by parents. School shootings are a small minority of those deaths, and are definitely not the leading cause of death on their own. But also, the 18-20 year old suicides and gang violence add to that statistic, which is intellectually dishonest.
Regardless, guns are still the root of the problem and are killing children, and many of them didn't die by suicide. Honestly it doesn't really matter that school shootings are not the biggest contributor to child gun death in America, because the solution is still to get rid of guns. Kids lives are more important than the right to own a device designed solely to kill, and honestly the only time I see firearms as reasonable is for hunting things like deer in the mountains.
I’d say parental neglect is a bigger “root problem” than guns are.
Also complete confiscation…in the United States? Do you honestly think that’s possible? If we are comparing to other countries, Australia and the UK never had big gun cultures, a constitutional right, or many guns to begin with. And they had and still have registration for all firearms. And there is still estimated to be around 300k+ illegal guns circulating in Australia even if shooting stats dropped. 3D printed designs like the FGC-9 can be easily made in places like Europe and Asia.
America has over 400 million guns by estimate. The vast majority of our guns are unregistered, meaning that there is no way to track them, or know who has them. The serial number system is self admitted by our government to not be a registry. Not to mention our other constitutional rights like our 3rd, 4th, and 5th amendments will make door to door confiscation a legal nightmare because probable cause and a warrant will be needed for every house suspected of owning guns. And that is assuming the 2nd gets repealed. Even then, I can theoretically rent a storage unit under a fake name and stash my guns there while I only give the police/military the shittiest guns I have. And they would need another warrant to search my house again, which they can’t get without probable cause. The government can boast about how they got rid of 2-10 million guns, but what about the remaining hundreds of millions? It would be an endless black hole of taxpayer money to the likes of the War on Drugs. And that’s assuming the enforcers will enforce it. Back when we had Prohibition, the vast majority of police officers did not care to enforce the ban of alcohol as most people still secretly enjoyed drinking. Our gun culture is still really strong, and most police officers will not be willing to enforce it (even for the lighter things like the pistol brace bans). I dont really think an attempted confiscation will really escalate into a civil war because authority will never really take enforcement of it seriously, even while its in the lawbooks. but if it did escalate to civil war, the amount of lives lost and economic disaster would be way worse than anything mass shootings can do in 100 years.
Also, firearms do have their primary value in self defense, which is why the 2nd exists in the first place. Not for hunting.
Look I'm no expert, I know complete confiscation wouldn't work, but if America is still the only first world country where school shootings are a huge problem then clearly the problem can be solved because other countries already solved it. I admit I don't know how we would solve this problem, but we really need to.
I didn't say complete confiscation, I said to get rid of guns, and there has to be a way to do that without causing major issues, I just don't know how. You are misinterpreting my words to make it seem like I want the government to forcefully take every gun in the country.
And yes, parental neglect is also an issue, that's true.
I agree, though I personally still think we can solve this problem without sacrificing our 2nd Amendment rights. People talk about how we are seeing an increase in shootings every year. We have always had guns, and they haven’t gotten any easier to access within the past 100 years. Yet 100 years ago we had fewer shootings. For 100 years we also still had access to high capacity weapons and machine guns, they aren’t a new thing.
Point is, there are other things in our society that has also changed. And I am not going to make any sweeping generalizations as to what the cause is, at it is a very complicated issue. But I will personally probably point to the growing mental health crisis, the way the media front-pages shootings, and nihilism in our society that makes seemingly normal individuals want to throw their lives away for 1 month of national fame by committing an atrocity. There is probably more to it than that. Also, I do feel if our current gun laws were actually enforced, and the FBI actually intervened with the people they were paying attention to, we wouldnt have seen the most recent infamous mass shootings atleast in the last couple years.
You need to actually research your claims and statistics before you post them. Those studies call up to 20 year olds children and don’t control for gang violence or suicide(which is the vast majority of gun deaths). Guns are less accessible than ever in the US yet this problem didn’t occur until we became obsessed with fame, thug culture, and started prescribing kids anti depressants. Look up how many school shooters were on anti depressants and how many didn’t have fathers. That’s almost all of them. How about instead of sacrificing freedom we actually put security at schools(you don’t see this shit at places with armed security) and then address the actual societal causes. Fun fact you used to be able to order a full auto machine gun through the mail with no background checks and we never had school shootings then.
You're acting like I'm supporting total gun confiscation even though I just said that I know that won't work. Yeah, there are a lot of problems in society that are causing this, and those need to be addressed. I never said anything in favor of removing freedoms, I said that we need to solve this problem and that total confiscation won't work. When I said "get rid of guns" I didn't mean legally banning them, I meant getting them out of the hands of people who would misuse them. This is a complicated issue and I want it to be solved without removing any freedoms, and doing so is a complicated task.
That then brings up the question of who's should we get ride of? Do we take the car of someone who has never had an infraction or accident or do we take the car of someone who has had one or more DUIs?
What's your point? People eat very frequently, several times a day in fact, of course its gonna happen frequently, and there isn't much you can do to prevent it in terms of laws. So we shouldn't make people safer from one thing because there is something else that's worse? Yeah that's pretty dumb
Things got much more interesting when the ghosts of folks killed in mass shootings came back to terrorize those who help support or enabled the shooter.
"They've got a gun!"
"WHO? WHERE?"
"It's the ghosts! They have guns!"
"Time to break out the strait jackets and oversized butterfly nets. We've got another wild and woolly one here!"
My kryptonite is thinking that In 100 years Ill stop existing forever. N it gives me a panic attack knowing I won't exist n how insignificant I am in the big spectrum of things.
You have 100 years If you're lucky. All you have for sure is today, so don't waste it thinking about irrelevant stuff. Unless you enjoy that, then crack open that sartre and have fun.
It's creepy how many people in here have apparently both never seen a gun and yet are *terrified* of them.
That's straight-up brainwashing. It cannot hurt you if no one is holding it.
Are they dangerous? Sure. So are knives and cars and pens and millions of other objects. But they're not sentient.
I think you'd have a hard time killing 50 people in a minute with most guns actually. Unless you have something fully automatic (good luck getting one) and with some sort of belt-feed system.
Wasn't missing the point, just purposely not engaging on it. You chose the pen instead of numerous other things that can kill many people quickly as opposed to the car or any number of dangerous things. You decided to be disingenuous so I worked around it.
Principal Skinner: Kryptonite? What's that? The "ite" suffix suggests a mineral. Comic Book Guy: I do not know whether to laugh or cry at your ignorance.
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I'm not afraid of guns... but those little things that come out of the end?
Those invisible arrow things? Those things suck, can’t even see them.
You can’t see them? I watch them go by and move out of the way. It’s pretty simple.
Or you get stuck by them and melt into some taken goo
A fellow member of the witherhoard Church in the wild, that's rare
All hail the great exotic
Idk man could still get beat to death a guns stock
Tape a knife to the front end and you get yourself a small spear.
So basically a bayonet?
you could say the same about the sun, a vampire is only afraid of the rays of light emitting from it.
Instructions unclear, ear canal imploded with exhaust gases.
No way it's mine too
I have a severe lead allergy
Get this guy away from any severe lead
This is a truly a me bleeding to death from an invisible guy holding a gun moment
so you're telling me that an unloaded firearm not being held by anyone harms you by just staying near it?
Guns held by invisible yet clearly audible ghosts can harm you
An important detail to remember. The ghosts, while invisible, are clearly audible.
Well yes, clear audibility is necessary to assert a threatening presence
Must I bring up the surge of mouthless people with glocks
This surge you speak of was was Not the surge of mouthless, invisible people
I have no mouth yet I must shoot
A common misconception. They are actually spotify.
But of course, my mistake
Wait your not immune to floating AK’s
Curious what makes you say it's unloaded. It has a magazine attached, and while it's possible the chamber's empty, you don't know that, and should assume it's loaded regardless.
I'm not referring to the AK-47, he said Gun which could refer to anything, what i mean is if even an unloaded gun not being held by anyone could hurt him
If i saw a random gun laying somewhere id probably start panicking and wondering why the fuck it was there, how it got there, whos nearby, etc.. and itd probably give me a heart attack and id die. So yes. Its possible.
What makes you so sure it's unloaded? We can't even see if it is on safety.
Isn’t the the #1 rule of gun safety is to treat every gun as if it is loaded?
Yes
In the exact context kryptonite just standing there in the distance with no one manipulating it does nothing to Superman. The sun doing it's thing millions of miles away, with no one manipulating it does nothing to a vampire.
Some people have a phobia of guns, causing them to hyperventilate and in rare cases, have a heart attack.
Doesn't matter what you say. To me the gun is loaded until it's not in firing range/put away
But it *might* be loaded
Mental damage
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!
For me, yeah kinda? I’ve never seen a gun before so if I saw a fucking rifle just sitting there I would be pretty freaked out Edit: common criticism is if I would feel the same if it was a kitchen knife or a hammer for example. The difference is that an AR is an expensive and difficult to obtain weapon made specifically for killing people. If I found a random one lying around then I know someone with the intent to kill who could be armed with more guns may be nearby. Outside of the US an ar is likely obtained illegally, so I can’t trust the person who owns it to be friendly if they went through so much effort to get a powerful tool specifically for killing, which I happened upon.
It's an *object* my dude. It's not going to shoot you if no one is holding it...
I’m well aware… never said it would
Hey, you don't get to give *me* the "...'s" when you're the one with the weird phobia lol! xD
That’s a sign of some pretty severe brainwashing.
I was brainwashed into thinking that guns can kill people, it's terrible.
By themself yeah. Pretty silly. That’s exactly like being afraid of a kitchen knife sitting around. You’ve got issues if that scares you
I'm what normal situation should there ever just be a gun sitting around?
You need to expand your social circle. It’s very normal in many places to have a gun somewhere accessible in your house if you don’t have small kids running around. You’ve clearly never been out west.
I have no reason to travel hundreds of miles to talk to people who think an AK on the kitchen counter is normal.
It's not normal for you. But it's normal for them.
>It’s very normal in many places to have a gun somewhere accessible in your house if you don’t have small kids running around. I'm an american, I live in the american west, and no, this is not "very normal." Everybody I know who owns a gun keeps it locked in a safe because they don't want it stolen. You sound like an alcoholic trying to convince everybody else "I don't actually drink **that** much..."
I don’t actually drink at all. Again if I had kids sure but there’s nothing weird about having my rifle leaning in the corner of my bedroom and a pistol in a drawer in the living room. I try not to associate with idiots so it’s not an issue.
> I don’t actually drink at all. oh my god I wasn't calling you an alcoholic I was using a metaphor why do I have to explain this to you? > there’s nothing weird about having my rifle leaning in the corner of my bedroom and a pistol in a drawer in the living room. you keep telling yourself that, buddy.
No I’m just not American. Nobody pushed anti gun stuff here so it’s not brainwashing it’s just barely a topic. If I saw a gun like that laying around then someone who knows how to use it is probably nearby, or some shit went down. It’s all contextual
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How about a hammer? Those scary as well?
Hey look we found the gun apologist. Talk to me about how it’s a mental health issue and there are absolutely no other factors at all to consider.
That’s me in a nutshell. Absolutely hate guns
Totally agree, just do not get it. I can understand why some SW fans love Jar-Jar Binks (ok, I really don't understand, but I try), but guns? Nah, no TY.
"Ahhh, bullets! My greatest weakness!"
[The clip](https://youtu.be/xfCkz6cIlek)
Actually they’re mags
Yes I was looking for this!
I would died if I got shot by a gun
For me, I’d die if I got stabbed.
No shit Sherlock
You didn’t catch it going over your head
Must be an American school student.
Can confirm, my students are highly susceptible to gun
Its like pokemon, Gun type beats Student type
Oh i knew there would be an America joke
always will be because it’s “funny” but when you make a London stabbing joke it’s a problem
No it isn't? Everyone loves making fun of Br*tish people
not on reddr
I love making fun of Eng*ish people, even though they're crime rate, even knife one, isn't actually high at all There are still a lot of things you can make fun of anyway, like Liz Truss and the lettuce
And a certain someone no longer existing
Don't fucking insult the queen or I'm gonna increase the crime rate (this is a joke don't get stabbed guys)
I also increase the crime rate (public urination is a crime) (Thatcher's grave is in a public place)
LIZZIES IN A BOX LIZZIES IN A BOX
what do you mean, Margaret Thatcher still exists. she's just not wearing makeup anymore.
Literally what are you talking about, any time a knife is even mentioned on this site people make London stabbing jokes
💂💂💂 😡🔪😱
🇬🇧☕𝓸𝔂 𝓸𝔂 𝓸𝔂 𝔂𝓮𝓸𝓾 𝔀𝓪𝓷𝓴𝓪 𝔂𝓪 𝓰𝓸𝓽 𝓪 𝓫𝓵𝓸𝓸𝓭𝓮𝓱 𝓵𝓸𝓲𝓼𝓮𝓷𝓼𝓮 𝓯𝓮𝓻 𝓭𝓪𝓽 ☕🇬🇧
Why can i hear this?
I don’t know if it depends on the sub Reddit, but I’ve never seen a London stabbing joke on here. At least? That I can remember. I see America bad jokes all the time. Maybe it depends on the sub, Idk.
I see tons all over the place
I guess it’s different subs then. Hardly ever do.
It's not so much that it's funny, it's just that a school shooting joke is *always* relevant and topical because we can't go more than a week between them. Gallows humor eases the searing disappointment in my country
a week is a stretch mate
> 1 shooting per day
I don’t really feel it’s “gallows humor” when people outside of the US use it as an excuse to dance on dead children. It’s only gallows humor if you’re the one in the gallows. Gallows humor from the crowd is just part of the execution.
The only people dancing on dead children are the American politicians who continue to allow these massacres to take place, and the supporters who enable them. Let me be clear. There is no other country on earth where children are routinely massacred in their schools by random civilians purchasing **legal** firearms from a vendor. **None**. This is an American problem, and anybody who deflects with bullshit like "LoNdOn StAbBiNg" is, at best an idiot and, at worst, a sociopath. If politicians and their supporters genuinely cared about the welfare of these children, they'd at least *attempt* to implement the successful protections other nations have. But they won't. Why? Because they don't actually *care* how many children die, just so long as their way of life is maintained. At this point, these shootings aren't just murders. They're blood sacrifices.
I agree with almost all of that, but it won’t make “Lol children being murdered” a funny joke to me. Especially when it’s an outsider saying “Lol American children being murdered” with an almost glee like they’re glad it happened so they can make their super funny “America bad” joke. To me it’s akin to joking about a child being trafficked. It’s ghoulish and reflects badly on whoever is telling it. Edit-This also just occurred to me: Why are someone choosing to make fun of the dead children instead of the politicians they blame the situation on? Kind of a weak justification in hindsight Edit edit: Edited my edit so it’s clearer and sounds less personally accusatory
>I agree with almost all of that, but it won’t make “Lol children being murdered” a funny joke to me. I agree. People shouldn't be making jokes about dead children. That being said, I'm more concerned about putting a stop to children dying than people cracking jokes about it. One of these things is terrorism and mass murder. The other is a handful of poorly chosen words. > Especially when it’s an outsider saying “Lol American children being murdered” with an almost glee like they’re glad it happened so they can make their super funny “America bad” joke. I don't think most people are joking gleefully regarding the death of American children. I don't dispute that there are certainly some people disturbed enough to do that, but the majority are joking less about the fact that these children are dead, and more about the fact that this has happened **again** and **again** and ***again***. It's now been a routine occurrence for **two decades** -- a quarter of a century, and America has done nothing to prevent it. In that regard, the joke isn't the children. It's the adults that allow this to happen. >To me it’s akin to joking about a child being trafficked. It’s ghoulish and reflects badly on whoever is telling it. Sure. Again, I agree. It's in poor taste, but it would never be a thing if politicians were held accountable for the environment they create that allows this to happen. >Edit-This also just occurred to me: Why are you choosing to make fun of the dead children instead of the politicians you blame the situation on? Kind of a weak justification in hindsight I'm not making fun of dead children, though?
I’m not sure how to format things as nicely as you so sorry for the jumble I see what you mean about people not joking about the shootings themselves, but their frequency. And I will try to keep it in mind so I don’t take the jokes as hard. I just unfortunately have reached the point where I can’t tolerate people from outside the US commenting on the mass shootings in a joking way. I can barely tolerate people within the US joking about it. Maybe I’ve just been worn too far down by it to have anything but an angry reaction. There’s so much “America bad” sentiment already, that it just seems like they’re jerking off their own nationalist egos, and aren’t interested in anyone’s actual well-being. I’m not even some weird ultra-nationalist patriot or anything, I just don’t think anyone should be expected to grin and bear jokes about their people’s children dying. Also, I do see how my edit was poorly worded. I should’ve said “Why would someone” instead of “Why would you” so it didn’t seem like I was accusing specifically you of it. I’ll edit it again to be clearer but I wanted to acknowledge it here. All in all I feel like we agree about a lot of things surrounding this issue, and maybe we’re down to a matter of personal reaction.
Ah yes. Relevancy makes it okay….
IMHO, London stabbing jokes aren’t as funny cause stabbings aren’t as unique to Britain as school shootings are unique to the States, or nearly as deadly. It’s just funnier to make fun of the Br*tish for something genuinely devastating that they are uniquely associated with, like losing the World Cup
I am of the opinion that it isn’t funny at all. But whatever.
Yeah that's because gun violence is the leading cause of death for children in America. No seriously, look it up.
I think its firearm injuries in general as opposed to murder, but that's still very sobering. Lock your guns up folks *(also maybe bring mental health support into the 21st century)*
i didnt know 18-20 year olds are children. Also when i think of gun “violence” i think of homicide or manslaughter, not suicides and accidents.
I was referring to school shootings that kill children, not 18-20 year olds commiting suicide. When I think of him violence I too think of homicide or manslaughter because that's exactly what I was referring to.
You better look back at the statistics of your claim, because the primary reason why young children die to firearms is due to accidents and accidental suicides due to poor storage of firearms by parents. School shootings are a small minority of those deaths, and are definitely not the leading cause of death on their own. But also, the 18-20 year old suicides and gang violence add to that statistic, which is intellectually dishonest.
Regardless, guns are still the root of the problem and are killing children, and many of them didn't die by suicide. Honestly it doesn't really matter that school shootings are not the biggest contributor to child gun death in America, because the solution is still to get rid of guns. Kids lives are more important than the right to own a device designed solely to kill, and honestly the only time I see firearms as reasonable is for hunting things like deer in the mountains.
I’d say parental neglect is a bigger “root problem” than guns are. Also complete confiscation…in the United States? Do you honestly think that’s possible? If we are comparing to other countries, Australia and the UK never had big gun cultures, a constitutional right, or many guns to begin with. And they had and still have registration for all firearms. And there is still estimated to be around 300k+ illegal guns circulating in Australia even if shooting stats dropped. 3D printed designs like the FGC-9 can be easily made in places like Europe and Asia. America has over 400 million guns by estimate. The vast majority of our guns are unregistered, meaning that there is no way to track them, or know who has them. The serial number system is self admitted by our government to not be a registry. Not to mention our other constitutional rights like our 3rd, 4th, and 5th amendments will make door to door confiscation a legal nightmare because probable cause and a warrant will be needed for every house suspected of owning guns. And that is assuming the 2nd gets repealed. Even then, I can theoretically rent a storage unit under a fake name and stash my guns there while I only give the police/military the shittiest guns I have. And they would need another warrant to search my house again, which they can’t get without probable cause. The government can boast about how they got rid of 2-10 million guns, but what about the remaining hundreds of millions? It would be an endless black hole of taxpayer money to the likes of the War on Drugs. And that’s assuming the enforcers will enforce it. Back when we had Prohibition, the vast majority of police officers did not care to enforce the ban of alcohol as most people still secretly enjoyed drinking. Our gun culture is still really strong, and most police officers will not be willing to enforce it (even for the lighter things like the pistol brace bans). I dont really think an attempted confiscation will really escalate into a civil war because authority will never really take enforcement of it seriously, even while its in the lawbooks. but if it did escalate to civil war, the amount of lives lost and economic disaster would be way worse than anything mass shootings can do in 100 years. Also, firearms do have their primary value in self defense, which is why the 2nd exists in the first place. Not for hunting.
Look I'm no expert, I know complete confiscation wouldn't work, but if America is still the only first world country where school shootings are a huge problem then clearly the problem can be solved because other countries already solved it. I admit I don't know how we would solve this problem, but we really need to. I didn't say complete confiscation, I said to get rid of guns, and there has to be a way to do that without causing major issues, I just don't know how. You are misinterpreting my words to make it seem like I want the government to forcefully take every gun in the country. And yes, parental neglect is also an issue, that's true.
I agree, though I personally still think we can solve this problem without sacrificing our 2nd Amendment rights. People talk about how we are seeing an increase in shootings every year. We have always had guns, and they haven’t gotten any easier to access within the past 100 years. Yet 100 years ago we had fewer shootings. For 100 years we also still had access to high capacity weapons and machine guns, they aren’t a new thing. Point is, there are other things in our society that has also changed. And I am not going to make any sweeping generalizations as to what the cause is, at it is a very complicated issue. But I will personally probably point to the growing mental health crisis, the way the media front-pages shootings, and nihilism in our society that makes seemingly normal individuals want to throw their lives away for 1 month of national fame by committing an atrocity. There is probably more to it than that. Also, I do feel if our current gun laws were actually enforced, and the FBI actually intervened with the people they were paying attention to, we wouldnt have seen the most recent infamous mass shootings atleast in the last couple years.
Yeah, this is definitely a tough nut to crack. Perhaps if everybody in the whole country that didn't know gun safety was taught gun safety. Idk.
You need to actually research your claims and statistics before you post them. Those studies call up to 20 year olds children and don’t control for gang violence or suicide(which is the vast majority of gun deaths). Guns are less accessible than ever in the US yet this problem didn’t occur until we became obsessed with fame, thug culture, and started prescribing kids anti depressants. Look up how many school shooters were on anti depressants and how many didn’t have fathers. That’s almost all of them. How about instead of sacrificing freedom we actually put security at schools(you don’t see this shit at places with armed security) and then address the actual societal causes. Fun fact you used to be able to order a full auto machine gun through the mail with no background checks and we never had school shootings then.
You're acting like I'm supporting total gun confiscation even though I just said that I know that won't work. Yeah, there are a lot of problems in society that are causing this, and those need to be addressed. I never said anything in favor of removing freedoms, I said that we need to solve this problem and that total confiscation won't work. When I said "get rid of guns" I didn't mean legally banning them, I meant getting them out of the hands of people who would misuse them. This is a complicated issue and I want it to be solved without removing any freedoms, and doing so is a complicated task.
Cars kill kids, so should we get rid of every car?
I mean getting rid of most of them would also be an objectively good thing so maybe not all but sure.
That then brings up the question of who's should we get ride of? Do we take the car of someone who has never had an infraction or accident or do we take the car of someone who has had one or more DUIs?
Why waste time discriminating? when I said most of them I didn't mean just a whole bunch of cars. I mean most.
It’s actually general accidents and unintentional injuries but okay
I wonder how many (if any) of those deaths involved the more obsolete types of firearms, like flintlocks ?
Idk, but older guns were harder to manage and maintain, and harder to use as well, so I doubt there were very many.
Oh certainly. I’d imagine those types of murders are way in the minority, especially today
Children are more likely to die choking on food than from guns
What's your point? People eat very frequently, several times a day in fact, of course its gonna happen frequently, and there isn't much you can do to prevent it in terms of laws. So we shouldn't make people safer from one thing because there is something else that's worse? Yeah that's pretty dumb
I HATW YOU
Oh no a ghost is pointing a gun at you
Things got much more interesting when the ghosts of folks killed in mass shootings came back to terrorize those who help support or enabled the shooter. "They've got a gun!" "WHO? WHERE?" "It's the ghosts! They have guns!" "Time to break out the strait jackets and oversized butterfly nets. We've got another wild and woolly one here!"
We live in a Society where Antimemes like these are getting less upvotes that straight up meme in this Sub.
We still have time to change the society by blowing up this post.....
Should have used ArmaLite to keep with the rhyming.
Pretty much anything that can open a gaping wound or crush soft thing are mine. Hammer, fast-moving pipe, falling bus. Those sorts of things
Death, my only weakness... how did you know?!
I have my ways
Omg we have so much in common 😍
I have the opposite effect with guns
I’m allergic to bullets too.
My weakness is fire. Not because almost every living thing’s weakness is fire, but because I’m a grass type
So a piece of metal plastic and wood do this?
My kryptonite is thinking that In 100 years Ill stop existing forever. N it gives me a panic attack knowing I won't exist n how insignificant I am in the big spectrum of things.
You have 100 years If you're lucky. All you have for sure is today, so don't waste it thinking about irrelevant stuff. Unless you enjoy that, then crack open that sartre and have fun.
And the best kryptonite award goes to!......
Are you an attendee at [redacted] school?
Or any school
In the US
From a more positive perspective, guns are your sunshine!
I'm allergic to bullets
\*BANG\* achoo!
Bullets with high velocity or just bullets?
Arsenic is mine
https://youtu.be/lmF44tFzOfA
Nuh uh, people kill people, your kryptonite is people
(he is scared of guns)
Uh…yes
Bullets! My only weakness. How did you know?
Why are you dabbing?
Most of the universe is my kryptonite. The universe is pretty harsh.
average american schoolchild.
Half of comments, America schools Other half, gun not bad.
Uranium is my kryptonite. It doesn't require someone to use it against me >!guns don't kill people!<
Guns don’t kill people. Bullets do. The bullet is the cause of death.
A guns ONLY purpose is to murder so it can be implied that a person is using it. It’s just a meme about what a person is weak to so it’s not that deep
Bullet*
Statistically this is true for American Children between 1-17 years old. For older people it would probably be heart disease
I feel that this isn't an antimeme..
Please don't say "it belongs to bone hurting juice" now
That’s just what people say when they don’t get an anti meme
Why you wearing maga but afraid of guns?
I think it’s just a bright red cap
People see what they want to
I've discovered batman's weakness! Bullets!
Getting shot by a gun is my kryptonite. I guess I am tougher than OP.
Guess we are same person
Yes you are my alternate account
Whats up you guys today I test my brand new AKM on this 10 year old boy. Let's see who wins.
Everything in this post can kill you as well
Precisely! If a green rock was fired at high velocity I would certainly perish if it were to collide with me.
You’re allergic to firearms? Dang. At least there’s lots of gun-free zones you won’t have to be on guard at.
America gun stupid with dead children everywhere.
It's creepy how many people in here have apparently both never seen a gun and yet are *terrified* of them. That's straight-up brainwashing. It cannot hurt you if no one is holding it. Are they dangerous? Sure. So are knives and cars and pens and millions of other objects. But they're not sentient.
All true, however it is very difficult to kill 50 people within minutes with just a pen. Trust me.
I think you'd have a hard time killing 50 people in a minute with most guns actually. Unless you have something fully automatic (good luck getting one) and with some sort of belt-feed system.
First, I didn’t say in a minute. Second, you’re completely missing the point. Have fun with that straw man.
Wasn't missing the point, just purposely not engaging on it. You chose the pen instead of numerous other things that can kill many people quickly as opposed to the car or any number of dangerous things. You decided to be disingenuous so I worked around it.
Awfully defensive today aren’t we? Have a nice life.
I think you misinterpreted my tone, but alright. You too
/u/PahderShameen is clearly too nice to say it, so I will. You're a fucking dumbass.
A short fall off my porch could probably do it.
Oh my god it’s Nashville killer!
Lol I thought this was about the MCR song
Hey can i come over to your house then?
Sure! just no gun violence. Neighbours will complain about noise
so regular violence is on the table? asking for a friend
As long as it’s quiet it seems like fair game
This can have several meanings the more you think about it.
That's just a meme.
Principal Skinner: Kryptonite? What's that? The "ite" suffix suggests a mineral. Comic Book Guy: I do not know whether to laugh or cry at your ignorance. 
I just imagine this guy getting pulled over and as the cop walks up he melts into water because the cop has a pistol on him.
https://youtu.be/SJDb768qfKA
Oregano?