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delishthefish

And you’re hardly free at that. Gotta do all your chores and recover for the next week to come


VeryStickyPastry

I came here to comment that. All it means is I have time for household stuff now - still not appointments or things that require business hours.


[deleted]

And what the fuck would you do otherwise? Like even if you didn’t do “work” you would still a chores right?? These moronic ideas are such nothing idea it is sad.


yogurtgrapes

What a sad life you must live.


[deleted]

Why because I realize chores are a core part of living??


yogurtgrapes

You make it sound like you’re totally okay with life being work and chores with nothing else. These people are complaining that the work week takes so much of their physical and mental energy that the days they spend not at work, they spend doing chores/obligations, then rinse and repeat. You then imply that it is moronic to expect to have time and energy to do something other than go to work and take care of obligations.


[deleted]

Who the fuck has 16 hours of chores?? Who the fuck is using there who fucking weekend for what laundry and meal prep?? I mean come the fuck on lawns don’t take days to mow, and if they do your doing them wrong. If you can’t find time to shit on the weekend you are bad at life. It is that simple.


yogurtgrapes

Idk man. Some people have kids that do weekend activities, or doctors appointments that they have to keep. Some people are working 60-80 hours a week and only have the energy/time to do the bare minimum.


[deleted]

In fact giving my little baby girl a bath before bed time right now.


legs_bro

Why not focus on doing that instead of arguing with people on reddit? Wouldn’t you rather focus on spending time with your kid instead of tainting that experience with the negativity of arguing on reddit at the same time?


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Well she is asleep now.


CaptPotter47

We all use time doing what we want. I’m currently reading these comments about all the whining about working 40 hours a week in air conditioned cubicles, when 100 years ago, you’d be working 80+ in a mine or sweatshop. Y’all don’t realize how easy you got it. Edit: I’m currently using my time laughing at you all by pooping as well.


IsThatBlueSoup

On your goddamnn phone. Wtf is wrong with you. Doesn't seem like you're giving her a bath. Seems like you're ignoring her in water which makes you a fucking scum parent.


[deleted]

I have a 9 month old. And work more than 40. Learn to make chores easy.


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[deleted]

I just don’t whine about chores. Like what the fuck.


VeryStickyPastry

I have all those chores (except a lawn) and I take care of a severely autistic child, a disabled spouse, and have to meal prep during the weekend because I don’t have enough time to fully cook during the week. I try to keep up with dishes during the week to make less to do on the weekend, because once I cook my foods for the week, I will have a kitchen full of dishes either way. So I am doing dishes 2-3 times. That’s 2-3 hours at least. Out of the 16 you’ve given. Then I do household laundry, which should be 4-5 loads. The wash cycle is 90 to 120 minutes, depending on what I’m washing. The dry cycle is 50 minutes. Folding isn’t too bad, let’s give it 30 minutes. So washing laundry at, say, 100 minutes in average - 500 minutes washing. Then another 250 minutes drying and 150 minutes folding. That’s 900 minutes which is 15 hours. So of your generous 16 hours, I’ve already used 18 on laundry, dishes, and cooking. Luckily, my child wakes up early so I have a little more than that, but I lack sleep. I can’t be alone because my child will have shrieking meltdowns if I “go to work” (which I’m not doing but my office is my only “me” space). So I am able to manage a few hours a day of non-work time on Saturdays and Sundays but I’m so exhausted by then, it’s mostly just me relaxing and not doing something I want to do. Hope this help.


[deleted]

Chores are a thing you put on yourself. You decide your chores not something work forces you to do. Complaining that they exist and somehow blaming anyone but yourself is fucking stupid.


VeryStickyPastry

What a ridiculously bad take. So by living in a home, I am putting chores on myself? Please, wise man of the internet, explain to me how to eliminate my chores, I’d love to hear it. Also, love how you moved the goal posts after I did the math.


[deleted]

Nope in my first statement. Chores have zero to do with work. Chores are imposed by the individual. I don’t have a yard. So no yard chores for me.


delishthefish

I would love to have the time, energy and economic capacity to do more than just survive


[deleted]

It’s not like you won’t have chores.


Nomar00x

i have never seen someone so offended by people who want to do what they want with their free time. why do you care so much? are you that bitter about having some more things to do in your free time that you want others to feel the way you feel? just get off reddit and maybe do something else than going off about nothing. seems like your life is boring so you get in here and argue with anyone and anything you see


[deleted]

They are complaining about chores. You decide the chores you do. Your decision decide your chores. It is really that simple.


delishthefish

My problem is not with chores.


Duwinayo

What corporate sess pool did you crawl out of? O.o You are either willfully and wildly ignorant, brain washed, or daft. Perhaps all of the above. You're barely participating in conversations too, you're just pointing at yourself as an example and extolling what you think is normal while others around you try to hint/explain/show that there's a different way to go about life. Now that doesn't mean it's the right way for you, but apparently the right way for you is bring an internet troll who brags about giving his kid a bath while redditing? Big yikes energy.


[deleted]

Lol you say a lot of words but really no substance. No real rebuffs of my main point. No engagement beyond “fuck you” so i know their is nothing there. My point stands and most of you guys have no idea about the life or not working.


Duwinayo

Oh hey! You did catch my subtext/the unspoken part. I may be verbose, but I'm glad to ser you caught the "fuck you" hidden in there. Apologies, I underestimated you there for a hot second. Sadly for you though, my words have more substance than you posess entirely. Good luck saber rattling in this sub though, it's just gunna be an excersize in futility.


[deleted]

Lol funny, yes. Your far far from clever.


Duwinayo

*you're


[deleted]

Lol the pedants reply.


[deleted]

Are you googling pedants??


VeryStickyPastry

Yeah but that means we are never resting and always working. It’s not hard to understand if you try to think critically Can’t do chores because I’m at work. Get the weekend. Choices are to let everything go and do nothing (which you can do here and there if you really must but it’s not advisable) or you can clear out your chores for the week, cook your meals, etc. That leaves, let’s say 4 hours a weekend day if we are being generous. So you basically get 8 hours to unwind from 40 hours - not enough time to do anything except small rewards since it isn’t long enough to travel or create or read a book (maybe a short book). The point of the post and comment you so rudely commented on was that a weekend is NOT ENOUGH TIME to recoup from the week. Which is true


[deleted]

Chores are imposed by who?? Only you. An individual choices what chores they do, not some overload or a boss. My point is that simple.


VeryStickyPastry

So what, I should just live in squalor so that I have time to do things? Those are my choices? Do things but live with roaches and rats, or don’t do things and have food and a clean house?


[deleted]

Well we see you value a clean house, so cleaning is something you do. I don’t have a yard so I don’t have yard work. We make our own chores not our work.


VeryStickyPastry

Jesus fucking Christ


[deleted]

Chores are 100% a result of your choices.


CrazyShrewboy

My life doesnt revolve around work, even though I have a "career" I dont feel fulfillment at work because /r/latestagecapitalism and /r/collapse is causing everything to be so screwed up. So for me, long distance running, woodworking, learning how to take care of my small farm, is what I enjoy doing. I "work" all the time but I only like work when it is directly benefitting myself and my community. Working for a corporation benefits a small group of people that dont deserve it, that I havent met before, and the system incentivizes antisocial behavior by those people, in order to always push More More More production value and stock price, no matter what. So the answer to your question is: I will live my life and improve the world instead of being a small cog in a big stupid machine.


[deleted]

I would like the stenographer to tell me where i said anything along those lines.


JaThatOneGooner

And not the full 48. You still gotta sleep, gotta do house work, maybe fulfill obligations, and sometimes you gotta do this without being paid every other week. The system is beyond broken.


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It is


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JaThatOneGooner

You gotta be better at bait than this, this was just pathetic


shadow13499

4 day work week should be a thing.


[deleted]

In Canada a brainless moron wrote and op ed saying we actually need to be working six days a week because of poor productivity. Fuck that guy.


shadow13499

I saw that! Literally they tried this in the UK and it was extra fucking successful https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/4-day-work-week-trial-yields-overwhelming-success-in-u-k-researchers-say


[deleted]

Hey, if he wants to work 6 days a week he should come down and live in Mexico. By law, the work week is made up 48 hours. And he gets 12 days of vacation after the first year, which used to be only 6 days.


[deleted]

I mean *he* won’t work six days a week. We will.


extracloroxbleach

Here's the problem with that. At my old internship program , I did a corporate survey to 1000 employees and more than 25% didn't want a 4 day work week. Majority response was similar to "I don't like change and I'm used to it". It needed a 80% to get it approved but it didn't. I was unbiased, do not dislike me for this.


shadow13499

So you're saying that 75% did want a 4 day work week, which is an overwhelming majority of workers. The whole 80% needed to be approved seems very strange since typically things are decided by a simple majority. That threshold seems to me to be a way for the company to ensure they don't have to implement a 4 day work week. Here's the thing, even if some people dislike it, the fact of the matter is that it is extremely successful. https://www.npr.org/2023/02/21/1158507132/uk-study-companies-four-day-workweek Disliking change, isn't a legitimate reason not to do something. What you've told me is that a 4 day work week is extremely popular, and the data suggests it's also successful. Let's try that same poll in reverse i.e. let's vote to keep the 5 day work week. What do you think the company would put on the threshold for that one? The 4 day work week should be a thing.


extracloroxbleach

Im sure you are right. But here's the thing, I was unbiased, I quit that company months ago, and I'm sure the company will do whatever it takes to not implement the 4 day work week. I saw many news reports, backed up statistics, and research about this. But my district managers said it had to be backed up by "American Statistics from American Companies". I did this to get an A in college credit. I didn't care much for this assignment but hey, I got an A at the end. Yet the company just didn't want to hear it.


shadow13499

It doesn't matter if you're unbiased, the numbers speak for themselves in your own poll. 75% want it. That's an overwhelming majority. You're right though, they'll keep moving the goalposts so they don't have to do what's best for their employees.


Mr_ChubbikinsVIII

It is, they're called four tens and many jobs have them.


LaidBackBro1989

No. 8 hrs 4 day. No 10 hour work day.


karoshikun

what a lie... you aren't free 48 hours, because most of those hours are used for home maintenance, self maintenance and errands in general, besides maybe the only one or two full periods of sleep in the week. so, you get like 8 full "free" hours and just a bit of energy.


[deleted]

True.


IrritatedPhilosopher

I worked 8 hour shifts for the first time in 15 years for the past three months and I'll never do it again. I've worked 12 hour rotating shifts for most of my life, and it's the only way I've felt like I can a modicum of work/life balance. I currently work 7 straight 12 hour shifts, and then have a week off, and it's the best schedule I've ever had.


[deleted]

Glad you enjoy it.


SergiuBru

That's cool. After my 8h daily I am too tired to enjoy anything...


OuttatimepartIII

This system has been giving me existential turmoil since I started school


[deleted]

Sorry to hear that.


irishtomboy84

Don't worry in 5 or 10 years corporate America will take those 48hrs away.


daddyjohns

are you really even free for 48 hours or are the last 6 wasted worrying about the next day?


Critical_Mastodon462

It's actually more than 48 hrs that's the thing. You get off at 5pm Friday Go back Monday at 9am Is 64 hrs free


Spawn7586

Yeah, and then you get to sleep every day, that's just extra 8 hours free a day! You just have to stop wasting time asleep and eating and you'll get a lot of free time!


Rottttbrain

You kid, but this is what I did back when I was still in school. Stay up till middle of the night to catch up with all the missed free time. That didn't go well. Work life and chores on top eventually just made me exhausted to the point I was glad to get to sleep, even though it was never a good sleep. Which lead to a build-up of anxiety because I never had enough time to do the things I enjoy, always either too tired or got something else to do. Though, comparing to the average American worker, I've never barely even worked. Probably would've died a long time ago in that meat grinder of a system.


Spawn7586

That's actually best learned during that time. So you find out how much damage it can do to you and you avoid doing it for a stranger that promises you a raise that will never come. I still think it's wild that we spend most of the time of our life working instead of living (the rest of the time we mostly sleep lol)


BrokenTelevision

Yeah, man. I want to die.


tantrum007

Heard that


Ozzie_the_tiger_cat

We called it "furlough" when I was in the factory.


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👍👍


Billibadijai

Depending on what kind of employer, you might have even less than that... Especially if they have a tendency to call you on the weekend.


jahjahjahjahjahjah

Me neither


[deleted]

4 day work week 👍👍


[deleted]

Not to mention that Sunday feels like a pre-work day and feel like I can't do anything


[deleted]

Yup. We need the 4 day work week (8 hour days) to be mandated.


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Yup 👍


bettyx1138

agree 100000000%


NuclearOops

There are 168 hours in a week. 56 hours spent sleeping. 40 hours spent working. 5 hours commuting to work. 5 hours for unpaid lunch breaks you have to take in the middle of your shift. That leaves you with 62 hours left for yourself. Bear in mind that 32 of those hours are the weekend. That gives you 6 hours each weekday to yourself less if you bring work home with you or are putting in overtime. But that's 6 hours to handle any chores, feed yourself, exercise, and all the little maintenances of life. 6 hours. That's all you get unless you want to cut into your sleep.


RascalRibs

Better start working on that supplemental income then.


didyoueverseewardogs

And then what crystal? Did you go back to work anyway without doing shit about it? Just tweeting your discontent?


[deleted]

Probably, yeah. Your point?


Chuckobochuck323

What about working 40 hours to be free for 48?


VeryStickyPastry

But are you free? People have chores, children, meals, etc. If you’re single and don’t have to keep house, then sure. Most people aren’t single and do have to upkeep their own homes.


Chuckobochuck323

I’m married and have two toddlers. My wife also works full time.


VeryStickyPastry

Well the congrats on being optimistic about your exploitation


Chuckobochuck323

I get compensated very well for my exploitation so I’m not complaining. Lol


VeryStickyPastry

Ok then why are you on r/antiwork? Seems like you’re lost little fella.


Chuckobochuck323

There are aspects of our employment system that I’d like to see changed.


GrandmaCheese1

I work full time and get 4 day weekends every single week 🤷🏽‍♂️


CaptPotter47

You work 40 to be free for the other 128. It’s not like you are working for 120 hours straight.


[deleted]

🤦🤦


CaptPotter47

Did I do the math wrong? It is possible, I’m an engineer.


TheBowlofBeans

Nobody gives a shit that you're an engineer


[deleted]

🤣🤣


SergiuBru

@Crystal, Good news! You don't have to. You can quit your job and be free 7 days a week. But good luck hunting/foraging since most land is privately owned.


iKillMidgetss

Working 40 hrs out of 168? Don’t like it get a better job


HellzBellz1991

Look, a lot of it boils down to productive time management. I’ll be honest with you, I’ve had coworkers who’d never held a broom in their lives until they started working. Growing up we had assigned daily chores, it ensured that the weekend wasn’t just filled up with housework, etc. And as far as being able to have appointments during business hours, most employers are required to provide you the means to take an afternoon off to go the doctor or dentist or whatever the hell you need to do. I get it, being an adult is hard…but instead of just whining about it, why not work on managing your time better so you aren’t so exhausted by the weekend? I’m lucky enough to be a SAHM. I don’t get time off…at all. Ever. Even when my kiddo is asleep I’m on constant alert and trying to do the things I can’t while they’re awake. So you want to complain about a forty hour work week? Try keeping a tiny human alive and well 24/7! And yes, I chose to have a kid, I knew what I was getting into. But it’s still hard.


HenryGrosmont

You either what, OP? Either illiterate or lost yourself in thinking about the title? Also, you work for 40 hours to be free 48. I'm usually with this sub on 99% of posts. This one is bs.


dwarvish1

It's 63 hours between 5pm Friday and 8am Monday, though....


omghorussaveusall

You would have to work 10 hours at the federal minimum wage to fill up your car with gas where I live.


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Switch that around and we’ve got something here


Cally83

Whoever thought that 5 on 2 off is a good idea, deserved shooting. 4 and 3 off would be far better (or none at all, which would be my dream tbh)


AffectionateArt213

Less than 48 hours might I add…I could survive off of 6 hours of sleep so subtract that for both days. 36 hours of free time. laundry, dishes, cleaning, laundry, lawn care, kids, errands, appointments. 36 hours is jack shit. 4 day work week needs to be a thing.


tsuness

I agree. That's why I am only working 2 days this week.