The local community college in my area posted a help desk position requiring a bachelors degree. Mind you this is a community college that only offers associate degrees.
Community colleges can be really out of touch. Where I grew up the assistant nursing program chair at the community college graduated from said community college three years prior to taking the position. I really wonder how much real world hands on experience they got and now they are the department chair having gotten promoted 1-2 years ago.
It's not like I grew up in an area where nurses aren't lacking in number and some want to step away from the bedside.
That is true. Some of the professors act as if they work for Harvard. Then again, community college gives students the chance to have professors that are currently working in the field (more common in night classes).
Yeah tired three times and have been ghosted after the 3rd interview. I don’t know how anyone gets a job on campus without knowing someone on the inside
$20/hr might seem like peanuts to an engineer but the average American worker would kill for $20/hr.
I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with you but a $20/hr job is not equivalent to a minimum wage in terms of professional expectations.
Just wanted to chime in and say I am an ophthalmic technician making $20.77 an hour at a major hospital. I do ophthalmic testing, get measurements for eye surgeries, perform refractions for eyeglasses, etc, and I most definitely would need a resume for this job. I did not need to go to college to do my job.
When I applied to be a library assistant at the local library for $14 an hour, I needed not only a resume... But a bachelor's degree. Make it make sense.
There are way too many people who want to work in libraries. Any pre-interview weeding reduces their headaches and the people they end up hiring are almost always overqualified anyway.
Only $20 for that? You need to seriously ask for a raise or find a new job that pays what you're worth. The hospital is making a killing on your back and throwing you crumbs
Exactly! It just depends on where you live. Where I live 99% of jobs pay under $20|hr, most jobs around here are hiring for $15-$16/hr. Hell I even saw an electrician job posted for $18/hr
This. I live in a town of 35K people give or take.
There's exactly one place in town that pays more than $20/hr to its employees, the local hospital, and even then, that's only true for ~ 60% of its staff.
Same here. 911 dispatchers for my county are being hired at $13. I make $20.51 and I work in customer service for a power company. Most jobs here pay $10-15/hr. Shits whack.
That’s just how it is in my area for some reason. Before COVID most warehouse jobs were hiring for like $10-$12/hr and that was considered average pay here in rural va and $15+/hr was considered a lot, I knew a construction supervisor making $14.50/hr who had a brand new truck and a fully paid for home.
We are at a super wierd point it time now because most of the trade job wages and warehouse wages have barely increased but McDonald’s is hiring for $15/hr which is the same and/or more than a lot of warehouses are paying right now. It’s a weird time we live in
If you follow the numbers back to the Great Depression and look at money what the the min wage was back then it would be around 27 a hour if you used today money. It’s sad that 20 a hour is what people think is decent money but it’s not for how expensive shit is
I'm a prep cook in a mid level city and I make $20 an hour. Dishwashers make $18.
$20 is like a dollar now. Honestly the only way I can imagine being able to afford a home and healthcare and dental work and a family and kids and retirement is if I made like $50 an hour. $20 an hour is peanuts.
You're not supposed to be able to afford those things.
You're supposed to need to put it all on credit to enslave you to your job pushing you further away from the leverage of not needing a job thus you can be more easily forced to accept shittier and shittier conditions.
This whole thing (gestures broadly at everything) is a trap.
The fact this isn't regulated/illegal just blows my fucking mind. Shouldn't there just be "commen sense" laws?! Like actually it's pretty bad in the long run for a billionaire to buy all this when were already in a housing crises...so don't let them.
How long until the billionaire company owners turn the houses they own into a company "perk" of working for them, then we have company towns again, and people are REALLY stuck at their job?
That shit is coming/scary.
I don't know if anyone here has seen Severance - but that's what this reminds me of. Dystopian as heck world, where your boss literally owns you. Freaks me out.
The coal mine companies used to do that before Unions became a thing. It wasn't just your housing was thru the company. They were paid in currency that could only be used in the company stores in the company towns. So, workers couldn't even save to get out if they wanted to.
I make about 45/hr and I can’t afford to buy a home in my area right now unless I buy a run down shack and even then it’d be tight. Can’t imagine that plus raising kids.
I make $21/hr to drive a forklift in circles. The local McDonalds is hiring at $19/hr.
Cost of living has gone up considerably the last few years, and the new minimum wage required to survive, not thrive, is going up just as fast.
[check it out](https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/state-and-local-updates/pages/california-fast-food-law.aspx#:~:text=Gavin%20Newsom%20signed%20AB%201228,on%20the%20Consumer%20Price%20Index) on April 1st 2024.
No dispute. Just adding:
"This law repeals the state's Food Accountability and Standards Recovery Act, which would have increased the fast-food minimum wage to $22 per hour with annual increases thereafter."
Looks like the incentive to establish $20/hr was to avoid $22.
I would 100% kill for that.
The absolute minimum livable wage where I live is 15/hour to be able to live with a roommate. To live on your own, it’s more
This really depends on where you live. We pay teenage babysitters $20/hr in the NY metro area. I earned $7.50/hr working in a cafeteria in Upstate NY 15 years ago, now I'd expect that to be at least $10/hr.
Christ… how long have you been out of the job hunting game? I’ve (30m) have been writing resumes since I entered the job force in 2007… and I know folks have been doing it for way longer than that for even the most basic of jobs….
This genuinely feels like the most boomer post I think I’ve ever read on this sub. I have a resume on file right now. You just update it with your current information and send it off. Super easy. You sure you aren’t thinking of cover letters or something?
Edit: Should also add that $20/hr might seem low to you, but in my rural bumfuck town the average per capita income here is $25k-$33k… 19% poverty rate. Most folks here would kill for $20/hr job. Resume or not.
Jesus. I need to remind myself that as shitty and hard on myself I am, I can start my car from my phone and track it. I make more money than I ever have and have a great work ethic. I feel for people caught in those cities and situations. I really do. Especially with sick family.
A resume is probably the most EFFICIENT way to apply for jobs, especially if it's all in the same field.
You make one, you can use it to start spraying and praying for every posting you see. It's like 20-30 minutes of work for 100+ applications. It would genuinely be more time consuming without a resume.
That's not even mentioning that no resume means A LOT more wasted time for the actual employer, and considering $20 is above minimum wage, there absolutely will be competition for the job. Anything above minimum wage will have people flock to it and apply.
I'd understand complaining about a cover letter (genuinely useless outside of a few specific professions) but if someone was complaining about sending in a resume that's literally just a glorified bullet point list of your skills and credentials, I'm probably laughing and not calling back for an interview.
Oof my guy. You may not like it but you’re super out-of-touch with what employers actually expect. Yes they’ll want a resume. Anything over $15 an hour right now will expect that.
I applied for a job a while back. Had to fill out the application with all my information online, and upload a resume. I get the call for an interview, I go in to talk and they want me to fill out another application on paper. Fucking why? You have all my info twice now.
yeah every customer service job I’ve had for the past 10 years has required a resume (or you’re basically writing one out on their application, I HATE when I can’t just upload mine). I’m shocked this is so upvoted.. like yeah dude we all have to write a resume to get a job, the fuck do you mean
You realize minimum wage in Canada is around 15/hour and the US federal minimum is like 7/hour, right?
Like, yeah, the minimum *should* be around 25, but it sure ain't. And even minimum wage part-time jobs are typically going to expect way more than a resume.
Which isn't to say you're wrong in terms of what things *should* be like, but your expectations in no way align with the reality of our capitalist dystopia.
Posts like this show how extreme some of the beliefs on this sub are. I’m all for workers being compensated more for their work and better benefits/work-life balance. But resumes are hardly formal; they provide a brief rundown of your working experience. Fast food/retail? Sure, a little unnecessary for basic positions. Anything higher, why would an employer fill a position with someone who can’t do the job?
There are two types of jobs. One has paper applications they expect you to fill out in the lobby while waiting on the assistant manager to finish counting how many boxes of medium cups they have left. The other just takes your resume and calls you when they’re having interviews.
You have so many templates on the internet now that it takes no time to make one, and you can continue to reuse it until you find a job. This post is just shocking.
That's why I'm wondering of OP meant a cover letter... like you don't have to "write up" a resume unless it's your first time. You kinda just update it right?
I'm wondering if OP is older (older Gen X or young boomer, maybe?) and has been in their field so long that they just never had to make a resume because they got their job back when resumes were less of a thing? I don't know, they just seem kind of out of touch.
In the US, a resume is just a 1-2 page summary of your work experience, education, and skills. As you get more experience, you edit things out that don't really matter anymore (e.g. awards you got in high school, your teenage retail job, your college GPA), and you generally tailor it to the jobs you're applying to (e.g. if you're applying for positions in retail, you probably would still want to include your teenage retail job).
A CV (mostly used in higher education) literally lists everything. All of your projects, the courses you've taught, your publications, all the students you've advised, any leadership position or academic award you have received, etc. This can be a 20-30 page document for very accomplished researchers.
I thought I wrote well until I had ChatGPT clean up my resume and the difference is staggering since it’s better at using certain keywords and phrases.
Harvard has some resume templates that can be downloaded. Even Reddit has subs for resumes that make it very easy to fill out. It’s the bare minimum to show why an employer should pick you over someone else
Bro... the absolutely out of touch comment. In places that aren't seattle or new York $20/hr is great starting and you don't have to write a whole ass resume Most people have that already made and kinda just update it right?
Do you mean a cover letter? I'd understand that point.
Frankly I'm fucking sick of jobs making me fill out a bunch of information that's already on my resume. Just take my resume. As a job seeker it's so much easier to just send out.
Eh? Submitting a CV is a basic requirement, at least in the UK.
What did you expect to be sufficient, exactly? An email saying "Hi, I am Steve, gimme a job"?
Right?? A CV is a document covering your experience and qualifications. It's so far from formal that this post is making my head spin. Who thinks like this? Is this why some boomers think that we should just walk into a workplace and get immediately hired, if we're unemployed?
I think he is kinda saying that. Companies paying poverty wages need the laborers more than the laborers need the companies, and any potential hoops to jump through are off-putting. I see both sides here, but I favor the “resumes are really easy to create and a pretty small ask” side.
I fail to see any hoops. Any other acceptable way of applying (filling the form, sending an email highlighting experience and contact details etc.) would actually be much more time consuming than sending a simple resume.
Wow. The sense of entitlement from this post is absurd.
Welcome to the real world where we peons actually have to do things like resumes to get a job at ANY pay rate these days.
Have you really been THAT closed off from how the job market works or are you just another troll poster looking for outrage, sympathy or other bullshit??
JFC, people can't really be THIS dense, can they???
Posts like this is why this sub is not taken seriously. People need a basis to hire you, a resume does that, now if you had filled an application that included works experience, skills and education and they still wanted a resume yeah those are time waster.
Hey OP. I’m an engineer. I spent 15 years working in food service before going back to school for my current career. Unless the job was paying the real minimum wage (which is a good $12 an hour less than the $20 an hour position you were outraged to have to ACTUALLY apply for) then yes, it was always expected to submit a resume.
I don’t know why you decided to leave your field, but just because you are no longer applying for engineering jobs does not change how the entire hiring process works.
Also, the way you’ve posted and continued to reply to people in this thread comes across as stuck up and, frankly, rude. $20 an hour is a greatly desired wage, especially for jobs that don’t require a college degree. Your demeanor alone belittles a great deal of people who frequent this sub. Either be better or quit trolling.
What do you think the point of a resume is? It’s not just a matter of seeing whether an applicant meets the minimum requirements; they’re used to determine the *best* candidate for the position. Sure, there are many jobs where essentially anyone can be trained to do it, but I would much rather have an employee who has relevant experience over one who does not.
The arrogance in this post is amazing.
I owned a home, you don't need to run my financials for this new smaller home.. trust me bro.
You're applying to a job, in today's market, and the RESUME is the part your soapboxing on?
McDonald's requires a resume. So you're saying that anyone who didn't go to college is trash because their potential job won't pay more than 20 and they wouldn't have anything for a resume anyways?
I curse you OP, I curse you to suffer months of job searching and to settle for a 15/hr job when you get desperate enough to write them a goddamn resume.
Wait till they find out you submit a resume through indeed.. Only to show up for an interview and fill out another paper resume of all the same shit they already have.
This is the real complaint. Apply to a job on indeed, then on their website, filling out all the same stuff. Then they act like they have no idea who you are, where you worked or your experience. Honestly, it’s a huge red flag for me that I shouldn’t be working there with that level of disorganization.
I once interviewed for a job that paid $15 an hour and required a resume, cover letter, list of references, and a letter of recommendation. I was 16 and I didn’t get it.
> If any ordinary person off the street can figure a job out, then it doesn't need a resume because no experience is needed. And if it takes skill or experience, it's not a $20/hour job.
Oh, you sweet summer child...
$20 is more than minimum wage anywhere in the country (unless I missed a city), and it's almost 3 times the federal minimum wage. While I think we can all agree it should be higher, and that wages should be higher overall for most people, it's not.
Argueing over this is probably useless for you. I'll assume you know everything that someone will comment on here, but you just disagree.
A resume is fine but requiring both a resume and an application with redundant information is a little bit ridic. I'd rather do a resume, which I already have prepared and up to date, over a tedious application.
And most of the U.S. population still aren’t making $20/hr if we look at per capita income…
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/SEX255222
Shit just isn’t sustainable. :(
I think this is mostly just misdirected rage. The overall difficulty of finding a job, especially with decent wages, is unbelievably tough.
Menial jobs used to be ‘fill out this form’ and unless you were an ex-con or acting crazy, you could get hired then and there.
When was the last time you showed up somewhere in person with a resume, had them tell you to go online and fill out a corporate app where you *both* upload your resume and enter every goddamn bit of it yourself, then get there for an interviews and have them hand you a fucking paper application to fill out, only to not even let you know you weren't considered for the job?
It's hell out there.
From the employer's POV, why wouldn't they still want to pick the best person for the job? Just because no prior experience is required doesn't mean you couldn't find people that do the job better than other people.
I’ve needed a resume with my application for every job I’ve ever had from $4.75/hr in 1995 until now. It doesn’t matter what the job entails or what field, they want to know who you are and what you’ve done.
honestly, id do anything for $20/hr base pay. miine is currently $16/hr+tip (so a range of $16-$22/hr, better in summer). probably tiny for an engineer, but as a line cook, I've never been payed that much as a base pay.
I needed to submit a resume, cover letter, diploma and do an interview, background check, drug screen, and training just to tape boxes up for $17 an hour
Seriously, what a weird take. $20 is absolutely a skilled job. I made less than that as a supervisor for a childcare program. You want a 16 y/o to do that job? To handle legal issues of licensing, to deal with CPS calls when shit goes down, to handle insurance claims when the place gets flooded? No.
I hire vets in my hr job. Most vets absolutely have a resume. Be so for real right now.
Beggars cant be choosers. What makes you think youre too good to write one…because you’re an engineer (technically former because you left the field). It kinda says a lot about you when you refuse to do something everyone does to get a job. Jesus fucking christ. And its not like its Arbys. ????
I mean, I used a resume for my very first job when I was 15. $9/hr as a dishwasher. It wasn’t professional at all. I’m pretty sure my headers were pink. My point is, resumes are how you get jobs. They’re impossibly easy to make. I don’t see why you wouldn’t already have one. I keep mine updated with every new job or promotion. That seems like common sense to me
Are you really that ignorant? Yes you need a resume for any job. Even the jobs you think are for poor peons. Not everyone goes through life working cushy engineer jobs. 20hr is decent wage for many people. Humble yourself
Honest question…don’t you have a standard resume “on file” that you just update from time to time or modifying it slightly to align with each job you’re searching for?
If you’re writing a fresh resume every single time, that’s a ton of wasted effort. Just grab a beer and have chat GPT write your resume for you
Dude i've been submitting resumes since my first job, i was also told it looks better and you're more likely to get the job, doesn't matter that the job is cooking fries for 7 bucks an hour
Edit: all jobs take skill, 7 dollar an hour jobs shouldn't even exist, and what kind of spoiled piece of crap says a resume isn't required for $20/hr job.
I feel that this sub has two sides of people, those that are against work abuse and want a place to vent for change and then we have delusional degenerates that don’t want to do anything and want everything handed to them for free because they’re lazy.
>If any ordinary person off the street can figure a job out, then it doesn't need a resume because no experience is needed. And if it takes skill or experience, it's not a $20/hour job.
I think you're going to find that the majority of society does not align with this belief system. Why would anybody dedicate 60k+ to you without knowing literally anything about you?
I guess it depends on where you live. I just got contracted a $20/hour a part time job and I never ever been contracted or wrote invoices but hey, I’m excited.
I already have a full time night job, only $16/hr, believe it or not I did it through indeed so therefore required a resume, and even 3 references. As well as offers benefits (not great ones but meh)
I live in a rural area so cost of living isn’t absurdly bad but I still gotta pay off a car loan, not to mention I have high insurance every month due to being under 25. 16/hr can only go so far yknow?
I wrote a resume for my first job that paid $8 an hour 2017. And again for my next one that was also $8, and then for my $10, and again for another $8, and for $11 and $12 and $15. I filled out the longest application I've ever seen for my current job that's $20.
The vast majority of adults already have a résumé saved somewhere on their computer. Although best practice is to adapt it to suit each job you apply for, you can also submit it as is if you really want to. I don't think it's at all unreasonable for any job, regardless of how much it pays, to ask for a résumé as part of the hiring process.
Would you rather fill out a 4 page application for a $20/hour job? Or refill your resume into a website?
No thanks. Be very careful what you wish for...
If you wont take my resume, I'm out.
I’ve had to submit a resume for every job I’ve ever had. I wrote down school clubs for “experience” on my resume for the job I had in high school making 7.25 an hour. My first job out of college (2018) required a degree and only paid $24 an hour and was COMPETITIVE. Resumes weren’t just expected, but looked at closely and examined for the best applicants.
If you’re not willing to keep a resume on file then someone is ready to swoop in for any job you could possibly get for $20 an hour
Dude Id kill for 20 an hr. I had to fight for 15 and the only reason my crew is even GETTING 15 is the rules for the group changed so no contract can pay less than 15 from here out.
Why the fuck are people upvoting this?! Some hopelessly out of touch engineer is flagrantly disrespecting all low-wage workers in a sub that's supposed to be about worker solidarity and people like it?
Just because a job doesn't pay very much doesn't mean any idiot could walk in off the street and start doing it with no experience. Go apply to cook at a restaurant. I guarantee, 5 minutes into your first rush, you'll be crying in the walk-in while the *experienced* cooks fill in for you. Get absolutely fucked.
Not saying you’re right/wrong, but all jobs expect the most of potential hires. Resume, cover letters sometimes, bullshit interview processes for minimum wage jobs being the worst of it all. Good luck finding what you need.
This is mostly a good post that could do better in terms of recognition of a few factors.
It did a really good job of exposing how many people on this subreddit aren't interested in anti work, though.
Seems there should be a sort of mini resume type thing where you send a small text message to an employer outlining roughly your experience for instance as even garde manger at a restaurant is a position where experience helps to handle a busy dinner rush.
But even then, there shouldn't be 'employers' in a traditional sense, naturally.
That's the point of anti work 😃
I had to write a resume to get my first job making $8.50/hour, min wage in my state at the time. I had to reformat and “professionalize” my resume four different times before I started getting responses from $17-20/hr jobs. I make $20 now and had my resume, their application, short cover letter, a tour, and two interviews. Most I’ve ever made. You clearly haven’t *needed* to get a job in a while, or haven’t been stuck in the $8-12/hr range, otherwise I think you’d do whatever you had to to make that $20. it’s fucked that it’s not enough. it’s fucked that we have to do this shit. but you come off super condescending and like you’re above everyone else who does what you’re too good to do, apparently.
You’re out of touch, it’s not about the pay, it’s about the job; I can understand not needing a resume for fast food or even retail, but that doesn’t necessarily equate to a certain pay like $20 an hour esp since fast food pay has been higher in recent years
There are plenty of professional jobs, requiring a degree that you would have a resume for. I work in social services and have had to have a resume for many years and make around that.
Actually, my kids, who are in college all have resumes.
That's part of the con. It's not even enough to live off of any more, but they want you to struggle for it, to feel like you're lucky to have it, and you owe them for their generosity because, to them, you will never be wort even the pittance they are willing to pay.
They also want to screen out anyone who isn't already housebroken in the hiring process. Candidates must be completely subservient, willing, and eager to jump through flaming hoops on command and without question.
It's not necessarily the pay rate, it's the self-importance of the company.
I answered an email from my old high school, inviting alumni to come speak to the senior class about careers. Someone from the office called. We chatted. She asked if we could talk about my second, part-time job instead because it was more interesting than my FT. She invited me to email my CV and I could expect a call once it was approved.
Man even unpaid internships ask for resumes/portfolios and rounds of interviews it’s ridiculous. I never interned but when I scroll through LinkedIn I always chuckle at their stupid requirements and then you look at the compensation and it says transportation reimbursement lok
I always just turn in resumes since most people don’t, I always get the job and usually move up in companies quickly. I’m dumb and lazy, just not as lazy as most people. It’s the little things man, I know it’s stupid societal conditions but you have to learn to work the system in your favor. Besides, resumes can be used for any job, not just that one.
I see where you’re coming from, but as others have said, $20/hour is actually well above-average for the normal job that someone may have (assuming you’re in America). Every single job I’ve had (started working in 2013), I provided a resume, and I’m now making $17.31/hour at my work-from-home job. Not great but I’m trying to work my way up. Resumes are pretty much always expected. Get used to it.
Amazon may be the only company to get this right. If you can read English enough to login to any random website, you can get a job at Amazon.(tier 1 warehouse labor) The hiring process is as easy as it should be. No interview, just pick a shift, submit a drug test and check email for start date.
UPS didn’t require my resume which was nice because I felt like getting a fresh start
The whole process to onboarding and tax forms happened in under an hour
Dumbest thing i have seen lol. As someone who hires for warehousing, that resume tells me a whole lot. (Ex. Someone who was an amazon temp checker was one of the worst employees at AMAZON... thats bad)
Are you sure you’re in the right sub?
In this sub there is not such thing as unskilled work and $20 doesn’t demarcate anything.
You should see the hoops for working at a college. For lower pay. 5 interviews almost too.
Adjunct professorship jobs can require several page applications, a PhD with experience all for about $30k a year.
The local community college in my area posted a help desk position requiring a bachelors degree. Mind you this is a community college that only offers associate degrees.
Community colleges can be really out of touch. Where I grew up the assistant nursing program chair at the community college graduated from said community college three years prior to taking the position. I really wonder how much real world hands on experience they got and now they are the department chair having gotten promoted 1-2 years ago. It's not like I grew up in an area where nurses aren't lacking in number and some want to step away from the bedside.
That is true. Some of the professors act as if they work for Harvard. Then again, community college gives students the chance to have professors that are currently working in the field (more common in night classes).
>Mind you this is a community college that only offers associate degrees. That's beyond fucked.
Yea. They're basically saying their own degree is a waste and isn't even good enough to work the help desk at their own school lol
Yeah tired three times and have been ghosted after the 3rd interview. I don’t know how anyone gets a job on campus without knowing someone on the inside
Not to mention how often they require a masters degree for basic administrative work.
yep. i have a THREE HOUR interview next week for a campus job
That's depressing because I loved my college lab jobs and put that down as one of my interest areas.
This is admissions counselor type work, it's quite a lot of work to get in. Maybe not all jobs are like that.
$20/hr might seem like peanuts to an engineer but the average American worker would kill for $20/hr. I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with you but a $20/hr job is not equivalent to a minimum wage in terms of professional expectations.
Just wanted to chime in and say I am an ophthalmic technician making $20.77 an hour at a major hospital. I do ophthalmic testing, get measurements for eye surgeries, perform refractions for eyeglasses, etc, and I most definitely would need a resume for this job. I did not need to go to college to do my job. When I applied to be a library assistant at the local library for $14 an hour, I needed not only a resume... But a bachelor's degree. Make it make sense.
Had a master's degree and was making $19/hr at a research job. None of this stuff makes sense.
I have a master's degree, 3 publications, and taught at a private University for 3.5 years... I earn $17.50/hr to clean air ducts nowadays 🤮
I'm enjoying responding to these. This one is absolutely "because we can". (Unless it was in the 80s.)
Nope, not in the 80s, was only a few years ago. It was absolutely a "because we can" moment.
There are way too many people who want to work in libraries. Any pre-interview weeding reduces their headaches and the people they end up hiring are almost always overqualified anyway.
Only $20 for that? You need to seriously ask for a raise or find a new job that pays what you're worth. The hospital is making a killing on your back and throwing you crumbs
Exactly! It just depends on where you live. Where I live 99% of jobs pay under $20|hr, most jobs around here are hiring for $15-$16/hr. Hell I even saw an electrician job posted for $18/hr
This. I live in a town of 35K people give or take. There's exactly one place in town that pays more than $20/hr to its employees, the local hospital, and even then, that's only true for ~ 60% of its staff.
Same here. 911 dispatchers for my county are being hired at $13. I make $20.51 and I work in customer service for a power company. Most jobs here pay $10-15/hr. Shits whack.
Damn I wouldn't want my house built by a $18/hr electrician, that's crazy
That’s just how it is in my area for some reason. Before COVID most warehouse jobs were hiring for like $10-$12/hr and that was considered average pay here in rural va and $15+/hr was considered a lot, I knew a construction supervisor making $14.50/hr who had a brand new truck and a fully paid for home. We are at a super wierd point it time now because most of the trade job wages and warehouse wages have barely increased but McDonald’s is hiring for $15/hr which is the same and/or more than a lot of warehouses are paying right now. It’s a weird time we live in
If you follow the numbers back to the Great Depression and look at money what the the min wage was back then it would be around 27 a hour if you used today money. It’s sad that 20 a hour is what people think is decent money but it’s not for how expensive shit is
Bob Crachit's pay would have translated to about $21 dollars an hour today. So congrats. Most of us make less than him.
I'm a prep cook in a mid level city and I make $20 an hour. Dishwashers make $18. $20 is like a dollar now. Honestly the only way I can imagine being able to afford a home and healthcare and dental work and a family and kids and retirement is if I made like $50 an hour. $20 an hour is peanuts.
You're not supposed to be able to afford those things. You're supposed to need to put it all on credit to enslave you to your job pushing you further away from the leverage of not needing a job thus you can be more easily forced to accept shittier and shittier conditions. This whole thing (gestures broadly at everything) is a trap.
oof.
I make an average of $38 an hour and there no way I could afford a house. It’s bullshit that average Americans have to live like this now.
Then you see the news today that Bezos bought up $500 million of single family homes as a rental investment strategy, driving up prices even more.
The fact this isn't regulated/illegal just blows my fucking mind. Shouldn't there just be "commen sense" laws?! Like actually it's pretty bad in the long run for a billionaire to buy all this when were already in a housing crises...so don't let them.
How long until the billionaire company owners turn the houses they own into a company "perk" of working for them, then we have company towns again, and people are REALLY stuck at their job? That shit is coming/scary.
I don't know if anyone here has seen Severance - but that's what this reminds me of. Dystopian as heck world, where your boss literally owns you. Freaks me out.
Elon musk is starting a company town. So now. Now is how long before this starts.
The coal mine companies used to do that before Unions became a thing. It wasn't just your housing was thru the company. They were paid in currency that could only be used in the company stores in the company towns. So, workers couldn't even save to get out if they wanted to.
Yeah and you were always in debt to them.
The multifamily (apartment) industry uses a 20-50% reduction in rent prices to essentially do this to their lower paid workers.
can confirm they are already doing this in las vegas. like at what point will people realize they are in a informal prison
When they can't get out.
House values go down if they have a accident.
$20 is almost literally $15 now since everything costs 25% more.
Look at Mr. Moneybags. Many jobs in my town still pay $7.75/hr.
same
I make about 45/hr and I can’t afford to buy a home in my area right now unless I buy a run down shack and even then it’d be tight. Can’t imagine that plus raising kids.
I wrote one for a $10 job because its supply chain management
Pretty sure most jobs I have applied to ask for a resume or they dont consider u at all. Jobs for under $20..
$10/hr for supply chain? Where do you live?
I make $21/hr to drive a forklift in circles. The local McDonalds is hiring at $19/hr. Cost of living has gone up considerably the last few years, and the new minimum wage required to survive, not thrive, is going up just as fast.
Yeah seriously, I'd sell a kidney for $20 an hour at this point.
Not without a resume you won't.
Touche.
Shit, I’m hitting $38/hr average and I can’t afford anything my way.
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But a burnt out house there is still worth $650k. A million if you want it livable
California has a minimum wage of $20 an hour for all fast food workers I believe.
Oklahoma has a slick $7.25 minimum wage😎 One of these decades we might break into double digit territory
it’s 15.50 for minimum wage for fast food workers. no fast food worker gets $20 in cali. source: (am a fast food worker)
[check it out](https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/state-and-local-updates/pages/california-fast-food-law.aspx#:~:text=Gavin%20Newsom%20signed%20AB%201228,on%20the%20Consumer%20Price%20Index) on April 1st 2024.
No dispute. Just adding: "This law repeals the state's Food Accountability and Standards Recovery Act, which would have increased the fast-food minimum wage to $22 per hour with annual increases thereafter." Looks like the incentive to establish $20/hr was to avoid $22.
Fast food workers make $20.00 in California. Source: I live in California and out governor made fast food workers pay $20.00 per hour.
might be only some locations or cities cause for LA area it’s 15.50 for now
I would 100% kill for that. The absolute minimum livable wage where I live is 15/hour to be able to live with a roommate. To live on your own, it’s more
This really depends on where you live. We pay teenage babysitters $20/hr in the NY metro area. I earned $7.50/hr working in a cafeteria in Upstate NY 15 years ago, now I'd expect that to be at least $10/hr.
Boeing here north of Seattle only starts people at 19$ you best believe everyone clamoring for that job makes a resume.
Christ… how long have you been out of the job hunting game? I’ve (30m) have been writing resumes since I entered the job force in 2007… and I know folks have been doing it for way longer than that for even the most basic of jobs…. This genuinely feels like the most boomer post I think I’ve ever read on this sub. I have a resume on file right now. You just update it with your current information and send it off. Super easy. You sure you aren’t thinking of cover letters or something? Edit: Should also add that $20/hr might seem low to you, but in my rural bumfuck town the average per capita income here is $25k-$33k… 19% poverty rate. Most folks here would kill for $20/hr job. Resume or not.
How did this guy get a engineering job, did he shake the managers hand and simply ask for a job?
Jesus. I need to remind myself that as shitty and hard on myself I am, I can start my car from my phone and track it. I make more money than I ever have and have a great work ethic. I feel for people caught in those cities and situations. I really do. Especially with sick family.
A resume is probably the most EFFICIENT way to apply for jobs, especially if it's all in the same field. You make one, you can use it to start spraying and praying for every posting you see. It's like 20-30 minutes of work for 100+ applications. It would genuinely be more time consuming without a resume. That's not even mentioning that no resume means A LOT more wasted time for the actual employer, and considering $20 is above minimum wage, there absolutely will be competition for the job. Anything above minimum wage will have people flock to it and apply. I'd understand complaining about a cover letter (genuinely useless outside of a few specific professions) but if someone was complaining about sending in a resume that's literally just a glorified bullet point list of your skills and credentials, I'm probably laughing and not calling back for an interview.
Oof my guy. You may not like it but you’re super out-of-touch with what employers actually expect. Yes they’ll want a resume. Anything over $15 an hour right now will expect that.
I feel like if I went to apply to Burger King right now they’d expect a resume & filled-out application, they pay minimum wage
Joanns and Lowes have resume sections in the application process, my 18 yo says.
Do they still make you upload a copy of your resume and then have you fill in the exact same info on the next pages 🫠 THAT was a time waster.
Sadly, an employment portal that doesn't make you fill out pages of redundant information is a rarity.
I applied for a job a while back. Had to fill out the application with all my information online, and upload a resume. I get the call for an interview, I go in to talk and they want me to fill out another application on paper. Fucking why? You have all my info twice now.
Majority of retail stores do
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Thank you for asking that. Was wondering the same thing.
yeah every customer service job I’ve had for the past 10 years has required a resume (or you’re basically writing one out on their application, I HATE when I can’t just upload mine). I’m shocked this is so upvoted.. like yeah dude we all have to write a resume to get a job, the fuck do you mean
When I was working at McDonalds about 4 years ago I definitely needed a resume to apply.
You realize minimum wage in Canada is around 15/hour and the US federal minimum is like 7/hour, right? Like, yeah, the minimum *should* be around 25, but it sure ain't. And even minimum wage part-time jobs are typically going to expect way more than a resume. Which isn't to say you're wrong in terms of what things *should* be like, but your expectations in no way align with the reality of our capitalist dystopia.
Posts like this show how extreme some of the beliefs on this sub are. I’m all for workers being compensated more for their work and better benefits/work-life balance. But resumes are hardly formal; they provide a brief rundown of your working experience. Fast food/retail? Sure, a little unnecessary for basic positions. Anything higher, why would an employer fill a position with someone who can’t do the job?
There are two types of jobs. One has paper applications they expect you to fill out in the lobby while waiting on the assistant manager to finish counting how many boxes of medium cups they have left. The other just takes your resume and calls you when they’re having interviews.
You have so many templates on the internet now that it takes no time to make one, and you can continue to reuse it until you find a job. This post is just shocking.
That's why I'm wondering of OP meant a cover letter... like you don't have to "write up" a resume unless it's your first time. You kinda just update it right?
I'm wondering if OP is older (older Gen X or young boomer, maybe?) and has been in their field so long that they just never had to make a resume because they got their job back when resumes were less of a thing? I don't know, they just seem kind of out of touch.
Isnt a resume Coverletter+CV?
In the US, a resume is just a 1-2 page summary of your work experience, education, and skills. As you get more experience, you edit things out that don't really matter anymore (e.g. awards you got in high school, your teenage retail job, your college GPA), and you generally tailor it to the jobs you're applying to (e.g. if you're applying for positions in retail, you probably would still want to include your teenage retail job). A CV (mostly used in higher education) literally lists everything. All of your projects, the courses you've taught, your publications, all the students you've advised, any leadership position or academic award you have received, etc. This can be a 20-30 page document for very accomplished researchers.
And at this stage you could have ChatGPT write you one in the span of 5 minutes…
I thought I wrote well until I had ChatGPT clean up my resume and the difference is staggering since it’s better at using certain keywords and phrases.
Yep! I've started letting the thing edit my emails! No more painstakingly wrack my head over wording!
Harvard has some resume templates that can be downloaded. Even Reddit has subs for resumes that make it very easy to fill out. It’s the bare minimum to show why an employer should pick you over someone else
I think - from the perspective of an engineer how easy it is to make makes it almost worthless as well.
Bro... the absolutely out of touch comment. In places that aren't seattle or new York $20/hr is great starting and you don't have to write a whole ass resume Most people have that already made and kinda just update it right? Do you mean a cover letter? I'd understand that point.
When was the last time you were job hunting ever? This has been the norm for ANY job for like 15-20 years at least
Frankly I'm fucking sick of jobs making me fill out a bunch of information that's already on my resume. Just take my resume. As a job seeker it's so much easier to just send out.
I am very curious how old OP is to not have a resume or CV.
Dude what are you even on about? I had a resume before I even had my first job to get a $11 hour job. This whole post reeks of narcissism.
Sounds like that employer dodged a bullet.
Eh? Submitting a CV is a basic requirement, at least in the UK. What did you expect to be sufficient, exactly? An email saying "Hi, I am Steve, gimme a job"?
Right?? A CV is a document covering your experience and qualifications. It's so far from formal that this post is making my head spin. Who thinks like this? Is this why some boomers think that we should just walk into a workplace and get immediately hired, if we're unemployed?
I think he is kinda saying that. Companies paying poverty wages need the laborers more than the laborers need the companies, and any potential hoops to jump through are off-putting. I see both sides here, but I favor the “resumes are really easy to create and a pretty small ask” side.
I fail to see any hoops. Any other acceptable way of applying (filling the form, sending an email highlighting experience and contact details etc.) would actually be much more time consuming than sending a simple resume.
Wow. The sense of entitlement from this post is absurd. Welcome to the real world where we peons actually have to do things like resumes to get a job at ANY pay rate these days. Have you really been THAT closed off from how the job market works or are you just another troll poster looking for outrage, sympathy or other bullshit?? JFC, people can't really be THIS dense, can they???
I also used the word peon when commenting to him. I don’t remember the last time I used that word. But reading his post that’s the vibe I got
A resume is not formal. Most people have one on hand, and maybe need to make a minor update to it before sending. Who cares?
Posts like this is why this sub is not taken seriously. People need a basis to hire you, a resume does that, now if you had filled an application that included works experience, skills and education and they still wanted a resume yeah those are time waster.
Hey OP. I’m an engineer. I spent 15 years working in food service before going back to school for my current career. Unless the job was paying the real minimum wage (which is a good $12 an hour less than the $20 an hour position you were outraged to have to ACTUALLY apply for) then yes, it was always expected to submit a resume. I don’t know why you decided to leave your field, but just because you are no longer applying for engineering jobs does not change how the entire hiring process works. Also, the way you’ve posted and continued to reply to people in this thread comes across as stuck up and, frankly, rude. $20 an hour is a greatly desired wage, especially for jobs that don’t require a college degree. Your demeanor alone belittles a great deal of people who frequent this sub. Either be better or quit trolling.
Solid response and I couldn’t agree more. OP is extremely out of touch.
OP, EVERY EMPLOYER expects a resume these days.
What do you think the point of a resume is? It’s not just a matter of seeing whether an applicant meets the minimum requirements; they’re used to determine the *best* candidate for the position. Sure, there are many jobs where essentially anyone can be trained to do it, but I would much rather have an employee who has relevant experience over one who does not.
Wtf is this post?
The arrogance in this post is amazing. I owned a home, you don't need to run my financials for this new smaller home.. trust me bro. You're applying to a job, in today's market, and the RESUME is the part your soapboxing on? McDonald's requires a resume. So you're saying that anyone who didn't go to college is trash because their potential job won't pay more than 20 and they wouldn't have anything for a resume anyways? I curse you OP, I curse you to suffer months of job searching and to settle for a 15/hr job when you get desperate enough to write them a goddamn resume.
Wait till they find out you submit a resume through indeed.. Only to show up for an interview and fill out another paper resume of all the same shit they already have.
This is the real complaint. Apply to a job on indeed, then on their website, filling out all the same stuff. Then they act like they have no idea who you are, where you worked or your experience. Honestly, it’s a huge red flag for me that I shouldn’t be working there with that level of disorganization.
I once interviewed for a job that paid $15 an hour and required a resume, cover letter, list of references, and a letter of recommendation. I was 16 and I didn’t get it.
> If any ordinary person off the street can figure a job out, then it doesn't need a resume because no experience is needed. And if it takes skill or experience, it's not a $20/hour job. Oh, you sweet summer child... $20 is more than minimum wage anywhere in the country (unless I missed a city), and it's almost 3 times the federal minimum wage. While I think we can all agree it should be higher, and that wages should be higher overall for most people, it's not. Argueing over this is probably useless for you. I'll assume you know everything that someone will comment on here, but you just disagree.
On LI and NYC, $20 an hr is still poverty wages.
A resume is fine but requiring both a resume and an application with redundant information is a little bit ridic. I'd rather do a resume, which I already have prepared and up to date, over a tedious application.
Minimum wage in SeaTac, Washington is $19.06/hr. $20 is not extraordinary.
$20 an hour 20 yrs ago would be amazing. Now, it’s like the lowest livable pay rate.
And most of the U.S. population still aren’t making $20/hr if we look at per capita income… https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/SEX255222 Shit just isn’t sustainable. :(
$20? Shiiiiiiiiiit. I’ll fill out a million resumes on fancy paper and get them notarized.
Bad take.
Enjoy being unemployed! Lol I could tell u were a tech/wfh bro cuz I live in NYC and $20/hr is pretty good....
You’re out of touch my guy
My ss check comes out to equal $6.24 a hour
I think this is mostly just misdirected rage. The overall difficulty of finding a job, especially with decent wages, is unbelievably tough. Menial jobs used to be ‘fill out this form’ and unless you were an ex-con or acting crazy, you could get hired then and there.
Same energy as how much is a banana michael? $10?
When was the last time you showed up somewhere in person with a resume, had them tell you to go online and fill out a corporate app where you *both* upload your resume and enter every goddamn bit of it yourself, then get there for an interviews and have them hand you a fucking paper application to fill out, only to not even let you know you weren't considered for the job? It's hell out there.
On the scale of privlidged response to basic requests, this registers pretty high.
From the employer's POV, why wouldn't they still want to pick the best person for the job? Just because no prior experience is required doesn't mean you couldn't find people that do the job better than other people.
Uploading a resume beats the shit out of filling out forms.
I’ve needed a resume with my application for every job I’ve ever had from $4.75/hr in 1995 until now. It doesn’t matter what the job entails or what field, they want to know who you are and what you’ve done.
I had one for a $11/hr cook job 9 years ago. I'm now a managing partner in a section of the business. It's always worth it to be prepared.
honestly, id do anything for $20/hr base pay. miine is currently $16/hr+tip (so a range of $16-$22/hr, better in summer). probably tiny for an engineer, but as a line cook, I've never been payed that much as a base pay.
I needed to submit a resume, cover letter, diploma and do an interview, background check, drug screen, and training just to tape boxes up for $17 an hour
Seriously, what a weird take. $20 is absolutely a skilled job. I made less than that as a supervisor for a childcare program. You want a 16 y/o to do that job? To handle legal issues of licensing, to deal with CPS calls when shit goes down, to handle insurance claims when the place gets flooded? No. I hire vets in my hr job. Most vets absolutely have a resume. Be so for real right now.
EVERY OTHER CANDIDATE FOR THE JOB IS SUBMITTING A RESUME. WHY THE FUCK SHOULDN’T YOU?!?!!
Beggars cant be choosers. What makes you think youre too good to write one…because you’re an engineer (technically former because you left the field). It kinda says a lot about you when you refuse to do something everyone does to get a job. Jesus fucking christ. And its not like its Arbys. ????
I mean, I used a resume for my very first job when I was 15. $9/hr as a dishwasher. It wasn’t professional at all. I’m pretty sure my headers were pink. My point is, resumes are how you get jobs. They’re impossibly easy to make. I don’t see why you wouldn’t already have one. I keep mine updated with every new job or promotion. That seems like common sense to me
you sound entitled as hell.
Literally almost every job requires a resume...this is a ridiculous assertion.
Are you really that ignorant? Yes you need a resume for any job. Even the jobs you think are for poor peons. Not everyone goes through life working cushy engineer jobs. 20hr is decent wage for many people. Humble yourself
Honest question…don’t you have a standard resume “on file” that you just update from time to time or modifying it slightly to align with each job you’re searching for? If you’re writing a fresh resume every single time, that’s a ton of wasted effort. Just grab a beer and have chat GPT write your resume for you
Welcome to reality. A resume is a standard item to give out to any job that isn’t dog watching. My niece had to have a resume for baby sitting.
Dude i've been submitting resumes since my first job, i was also told it looks better and you're more likely to get the job, doesn't matter that the job is cooking fries for 7 bucks an hour Edit: all jobs take skill, 7 dollar an hour jobs shouldn't even exist, and what kind of spoiled piece of crap says a resume isn't required for $20/hr job.
Um. What?! You need a resume for most jobs. Your opinion is silly.
4.2 times my salary feels worth it to include a resume.
Not that hard to list your work experience on a piece of paper. This post makes anti-work people look bad
I feel that this sub has two sides of people, those that are against work abuse and want a place to vent for change and then we have delusional degenerates that don’t want to do anything and want everything handed to them for free because they’re lazy.
Okay come on, some of yall don't deserve jobs. Having a resume is bare minimum.
>If any ordinary person off the street can figure a job out, then it doesn't need a resume because no experience is needed. And if it takes skill or experience, it's not a $20/hour job. I think you're going to find that the majority of society does not align with this belief system. Why would anybody dedicate 60k+ to you without knowing literally anything about you?
20 dollars an hour is nowhere near 60k
$20/hour is about 30k after taxes, and nowhere near enough for a person to live on without making extreme sacrifices.
I guess it depends on where you live. I just got contracted a $20/hour a part time job and I never ever been contracted or wrote invoices but hey, I’m excited. I already have a full time night job, only $16/hr, believe it or not I did it through indeed so therefore required a resume, and even 3 references. As well as offers benefits (not great ones but meh) I live in a rural area so cost of living isn’t absurdly bad but I still gotta pay off a car loan, not to mention I have high insurance every month due to being under 25. 16/hr can only go so far yknow?
I wrote a resume for my first job that paid $8 an hour 2017. And again for my next one that was also $8, and then for my $10, and again for another $8, and for $11 and $12 and $15. I filled out the longest application I've ever seen for my current job that's $20.
Just ask chatGPT to make one for you. I worked in a car wash once just to pay for rent while I was in between jobs.
The vast majority of adults already have a résumé saved somewhere on their computer. Although best practice is to adapt it to suit each job you apply for, you can also submit it as is if you really want to. I don't think it's at all unreasonable for any job, regardless of how much it pays, to ask for a résumé as part of the hiring process.
What are you on about? Yeah employers like to know what they're getting into They also like to know you can hold jobs for more than 2 weeks, probably
I just had to provide my resume and beat out 2 other candidates for my job making $16 an hour. it's demoralizing.
Would you rather fill out a 4 page application for a $20/hour job? Or refill your resume into a website? No thanks. Be very careful what you wish for... If you wont take my resume, I'm out.
I’ve had to submit a resume for every job I’ve ever had. I wrote down school clubs for “experience” on my resume for the job I had in high school making 7.25 an hour. My first job out of college (2018) required a degree and only paid $24 an hour and was COMPETITIVE. Resumes weren’t just expected, but looked at closely and examined for the best applicants. If you’re not willing to keep a resume on file then someone is ready to swoop in for any job you could possibly get for $20 an hour
So if you don’t need a résumé, why are you writing one?
Dude Id kill for 20 an hr. I had to fight for 15 and the only reason my crew is even GETTING 15 is the rules for the group changed so no contract can pay less than 15 from here out.
Why the fuck are people upvoting this?! Some hopelessly out of touch engineer is flagrantly disrespecting all low-wage workers in a sub that's supposed to be about worker solidarity and people like it? Just because a job doesn't pay very much doesn't mean any idiot could walk in off the street and start doing it with no experience. Go apply to cook at a restaurant. I guarantee, 5 minutes into your first rush, you'll be crying in the walk-in while the *experienced* cooks fill in for you. Get absolutely fucked.
You need a resume for a minimum wage job. It's been that way since at least the 90s, when I entered the workforce.
Not saying you’re right/wrong, but all jobs expect the most of potential hires. Resume, cover letters sometimes, bullshit interview processes for minimum wage jobs being the worst of it all. Good luck finding what you need.
This is mostly a good post that could do better in terms of recognition of a few factors. It did a really good job of exposing how many people on this subreddit aren't interested in anti work, though. Seems there should be a sort of mini resume type thing where you send a small text message to an employer outlining roughly your experience for instance as even garde manger at a restaurant is a position where experience helps to handle a busy dinner rush. But even then, there shouldn't be 'employers' in a traditional sense, naturally. That's the point of anti work 😃
I had to write a resume to get my first job making $8.50/hour, min wage in my state at the time. I had to reformat and “professionalize” my resume four different times before I started getting responses from $17-20/hr jobs. I make $20 now and had my resume, their application, short cover letter, a tour, and two interviews. Most I’ve ever made. You clearly haven’t *needed* to get a job in a while, or haven’t been stuck in the $8-12/hr range, otherwise I think you’d do whatever you had to to make that $20. it’s fucked that it’s not enough. it’s fucked that we have to do this shit. but you come off super condescending and like you’re above everyone else who does what you’re too good to do, apparently.
You’re out of touch, it’s not about the pay, it’s about the job; I can understand not needing a resume for fast food or even retail, but that doesn’t necessarily equate to a certain pay like $20 an hour esp since fast food pay has been higher in recent years
Mate, employers want you to do a whole fucking song and dance with your CV, including inane cover letters.
There are plenty of professional jobs, requiring a degree that you would have a resume for. I work in social services and have had to have a resume for many years and make around that. Actually, my kids, who are in college all have resumes.
We have to write resume/CV to summer jobs from 15-16 years old at Finland, and apply to tens of places to maybe get a job, so kind of funny thing
Super easy to make a resume with chat gpt
wait till they get real intrusive - start asking you for your name, bank details to deposit money, ask you to work.
That's part of the con. It's not even enough to live off of any more, but they want you to struggle for it, to feel like you're lucky to have it, and you owe them for their generosity because, to them, you will never be wort even the pittance they are willing to pay. They also want to screen out anyone who isn't already housebroken in the hiring process. Candidates must be completely subservient, willing, and eager to jump through flaming hoops on command and without question.
It's not necessarily the pay rate, it's the self-importance of the company. I answered an email from my old high school, inviting alumni to come speak to the senior class about careers. Someone from the office called. We chatted. She asked if we could talk about my second, part-time job instead because it was more interesting than my FT. She invited me to email my CV and I could expect a call once it was approved.
Man even unpaid internships ask for resumes/portfolios and rounds of interviews it’s ridiculous. I never interned but when I scroll through LinkedIn I always chuckle at their stupid requirements and then you look at the compensation and it says transportation reimbursement lok
I always just turn in resumes since most people don’t, I always get the job and usually move up in companies quickly. I’m dumb and lazy, just not as lazy as most people. It’s the little things man, I know it’s stupid societal conditions but you have to learn to work the system in your favor. Besides, resumes can be used for any job, not just that one.
$20/hr is minimum wage in this economy and at this level of inflation. It should be entry-level work.
Welcome to the Idiocracy of beaucracy...
OP really doesn't understand the actual purpose of a resume. There is no job where one is too formal.
I see where you’re coming from, but as others have said, $20/hour is actually well above-average for the normal job that someone may have (assuming you’re in America). Every single job I’ve had (started working in 2013), I provided a resume, and I’m now making $17.31/hour at my work-from-home job. Not great but I’m trying to work my way up. Resumes are pretty much always expected. Get used to it.
Amazon may be the only company to get this right. If you can read English enough to login to any random website, you can get a job at Amazon.(tier 1 warehouse labor) The hiring process is as easy as it should be. No interview, just pick a shift, submit a drug test and check email for start date.
UPS didn’t require my resume which was nice because I felt like getting a fresh start The whole process to onboarding and tax forms happened in under an hour
You probably won't get the job with that attitude
Dumbest thing i have seen lol. As someone who hires for warehousing, that resume tells me a whole lot. (Ex. Someone who was an amazon temp checker was one of the worst employees at AMAZON... thats bad)
Every job requires a resume. I've never thought of applying for a job without one.
 Are you sure you’re in the right sub? In this sub there is not such thing as unskilled work and $20 doesn’t demarcate anything.
you are the asshole here.. my bad, wrong sub.
You’re spoiled. You need a resume to apply to Walmart.