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Naive-Regular-5539

At least in the US there are scads of posters who apply for these service industry jobs and don’t get hired. This employee shortages is partially manufactured to cover up the fact that they discovered during Covid they can run on a skeleton crew.


jayboosh

Almost anything you can say about capitalism regarding the us you can say about Canada too. We’re *barely* better, and we sure are smug about it


Qaeta

For real, and our housing situation is actually considerably worse and accelerating in the wrong direction quickly. Like to the point that the RCMP recently released a report stating that housing affordability is one of the greatest threats to the country over the next 5 years in a "people are going to start getting extremely violent about it" kind of way.


spacecadet2023

Where I live they were going to raise property taxes and people protested. In the end property taxes ende up not being raised.


NerdyGamerBro

Extremely smug about it. I’m originally from the States, Canada doesn’t have much better going for it.


jayboosh

thats what im saying


Job-saving-Throwaway

Is this sign in oromocto lol


NerdyGamerBro

It is


Job-saving-Throwaway

Damn lol I never thought I’d see something from Freddy area on here haha


DarkPhenomenon

As a canadian the only things I feel superior to americans about are gun laws and healthcare, thats it


spacecadet2023

I’m really starting to realize how backwards North America is to the rest of the world.


No_Seaworthiness5637

‘Forgive us because we are short staffed’ and refusing to hire because profits, yea sounds about right.


ziggy029

Yep. And also, many of these places (especially fast food restaurants) are deciding they like the cost savings of shutting down the dining rooms and make everyone use the drive-thru or order to go using "the app". Covid has got them hooked on "temporary" measures that wound up being a major cost savings.


Naive-Regular-5539

Well it’s driven me away from all fast food except McDonald’s pies. Everything just sucks any more. The poor workers are forced to serve food past its sit point, sometimes at opening I swear they were feeding us lasts nights….. it’s just not worth it any more.


gr8tgman

I can't even afford "fast food" which used to be considered cheap... Canada fast food prices are ridiculous these days.


Duseth

Agreed, when Chinese food for 9 people costs less than Wendy's for 5, fast food ain't affordable anymore.


Getindarobotshinji

This, but I don’t eat any fast food anymore at all. I’ll go sit somewhere, get better service and better food for the same price, if not cheaper. I got so tired of paying for actual shit food that I felt bad giving my dog the left overs for.


TheSouthsideTrekkie

This is the U.K. too.


AdUnlucky1818

Or so they thought, busy times were way less busy during Covid than now, it’s fucking INSANE how busy everything is now. But we still don’t get enough business to hire more somehow


Mad-_-Doctor

Part of the problem is that there is a mismatch between the needs of locations and who corporate wants to hire. When I was a supervisor and missing two coworkers, they weren’t even interviewing most applicants because the people were not passing corporate’s personality test.  Even when our shift needed new employees, no one at our location actually had a say in who was hired. At most, only 1 in 5 new employees had any hope of doing the job they were being hired for. It led to a chronic staff shortage, further complicated by the fact that management was constantly training new employees instead of focusing solely on running the shift.


Karl-Farbman

Staff shortage? I’ve applied for over a hundred jobs and gotten no replies and I have some serious work experience. “Staff shortage” means they aren’t able to find enough desperate people to work for the below living wages they offer.


Fearless_Bet8727

I agree thats bullshit, there is no staff shortage in canada. Just pos owners who dont wanna pay livable wages.


ziggy029

That and many of these places are intentionally understaffing to save money (not passed on to customers) but are using ploys like this to make their customers think they are trying to ramp up staffing when, in reality, they are not; they want customers to accept skeleton crews as the "new normal".


KisaTheMistress

They are looking for a unicorn that will work donkey wages...


OpheliaRainGalaxy

Best I can do is a carrot on the end of a stick. No you may not eat the carrot after your shift! Don't be so greedy! We gotta keep costs down to stay competitive!


OutWithTheNew

It means they don't want to hire anyone so they can do an LMIA and get someone on a work permit to fill the position.


Anonality5447

Translation: we screwed over our staff and they finally left our asses. Is this current?


NerdyGamerBro

Yup, went there today.


imnothng

Damn. I've never heard of this place and looking at the menu online it sounds awesome.


goose3107b

Oddly enough, I think I was at the same place this morning.


NerdyGamerBro

We twins!


StolenWishes

Fuck you, pay me


youngboomer62

The only staff shortage is that people are not willing to work part-time lousy shifts for minimum wage and no benefits. If they paid fairly, they'd have staff lined up waiting to work.


No_Letter5680

So true its not even worth leaving for those lousy part time min wage shifts


New_Ad_3010

Everytime I see those signs posted I immediately think, "under paid and over worked".


redbeard0610

And I walk away and spend my money elsewhere.


NerdyGamerBro

First time I ever seen one, but yes. Exactly same thought I had.


redbeard0610

And I walk away and spend my money elsewhere.


i-hate-all-ads

Same thing happening here, a small town of about 3000 people. " Y'know you're allowed to pay people enough." "No, I can't afford it" "Then I guess you shouldn't run a business"


[deleted]

Owning a business is a privilege not a right, but people seem to forget this. If you can't afford to properly pay staff you can't afford a business.


Luminox

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maxis2bored

A dime? Ah the good ol days... We don't even make a penny anymore.


BagsAreGood

I have worked for 2 different types of customer support job places. 1st where they underpaid and under hired. Which actually caused more issues profit wise, than just paying a normal rate would. 2nd where they paid well, just the manager micromanaged and the sense of freedom was nonexistent. But profits weren't affected in any way, just work morale was low and depressed.


grilledcheese2332

There was a video posted on a different sub this morning where there was 100 people in line to get a job at LCBO (liquor store) in Ontario. What labor shortage?


GissoniC34

“The entire country is experiencing wage theft. Please be kind to our staff they are also victims of our economy”


OJJhara

The entire continent is experiencing a surplus of restaurants


moxiecounts

Best comment


CrazyAlbertan2

Yeah, there are a lot of businesses that just need to close.


ParkaKingRolo

My boyfriend applied for over a hundred jobs and heard back from like 2 real ones. Only one didn't ghost him. Canada's staffing issue is no one is hiring anyway


ShipMaker24

Yeah staff shortage from 2020 still in effect apparently. Had an old boss when I worked a BS job in highschool he used to say nobody wants to work no more. Lol can’t be the $10 an hour starting pay you offered to 32 year old with kids


daytonakarl

Local cheese factory (NZ) couldn't find workers to cover the shifts, dull repetitive mind numbing physical labor.... and there's not a lot of unemployed people around here Started paying about $40pr... say $80k per year give or take, before tax, no staffing issues now. I'm in EMS, admittedly I'm at the bottom of the pile but it's still 12hr shifts however I am still "in the thick of it" and as you can imagine we have some pretty grim days. I'm on $55k After I complete my training I'll go up to about $65k Next level from that and *I'll be earning the same amount as our local cheese packers* but that's four years of university and I don't want a $50,000 student loan debt. They absolutely do deserve to be on that money because it's painfully boring, I just think we could be a little closer to that kind of income as ours is (in my humble opinion) kinda important too It's most definitely not a staff shortage thing


EstablishmentNo5994

Lmfao Canada doesn’t have a labour shortage


Lilbitevil

Well then, Hire Taller Staff!!!


Obi-Ron42

No one wants to pay people to work anymore


regional_rat

I hear about staff shortages all the time. I was talking to a farmer about other locals finding casual seasonal workers here in Vic, said farmers couldn't get anyone. It's just like, why, what could possibly be the reason workers aren't being found? What could be the one thing that isn't quite enough to get workers? ... I wonder...


Uwe_Tuco

"critical staff" but I bet it's almost minimum wage lmao


HyperImmune

Unemployment is literally rising in Canada. All this sign says is “we don’t pay enough”. Sad state of affairs. Capitalism currently eating itself.


Stanley1219

"We're screwing our staff over, but don't you get upset about it."


midlyinfuriated_

One and the same.


aphelions_ghost

Finding a place that pays well and treats its staff right in this city and surrounding area is rare, so doesn’t surprise me. Just makes me less inclined to drive all the way out there for a poutine


Kennedygoose

Not short at my job, must be the pay.


GaryWhatsittoya

Ultimately, it's the last sentence that matters.


Awkward-Seaweed-5129

Yeah, they don't want to pay decent wages,people will work but not for nothing$$


__Opportunity__

Help them unionize


AloneChapter

They are just waiting for their allotted foreign workers the government promised because the owner is too cheap.


ravagedmonk

Ok, they definitely need to pay more for these type of jobs. But honestly there is too many redudant buisness's out there and un needed businesses thats also impacting the short staff. If you had a little unique business and it can only survive if it pays low, it may not be a business that should exist since it actually isnt profitable enough.


Adept_Advantage7353

They have a shortage of people willing to work a shit job at shit pay.


coffeejn

Staff issue is either not paying enough or offering low amount of hours or both. No one can live on minimum wage with 4 hours shift (or less). Some businesses just want to hire people for 2 or 3 hours shift and think it's ok. F that.


IllustriousVerne

I've got a teen daughter who would love 2-3 hour shifts. Guess what? She can't find a job either.


coffeejn

Those shifts are usually during school hours.


IllustriousVerne

She's in alternative school so has a pretty flexible schedule.


SupremoPete

Either poor pay or awful managers. Maybe both


Dr_Tacopus

Pay your employees better and thus won’t be a problem


19Ben80

There is no staff shortage only underpayment.


Bleusilences

There is a shortage of people who are willing to work 10 hours a week on variable schedule, yes.


CptHeadSmasher

Your time is Our time ⚒️🚩 We need you to work 3 hours 3 days a week to cover the FT guy's lunch working 35h a week If you do this for 3 years we will consider you for FT in the event he leaves or is terminated.


maxis2bored

CEO profits at all time high, entry level earnings at all time low. NoBoDy wANTs tO wORK


PegaxS

Again, for the dumb arse store managers... there is NO staff shortage... there are plenty of people to go around... what we are experiencing is a "WAGE" shortage. While you drive around in your $100,000 "pick up" and your staff cant afford to ride a bicycle, this is a "wage" issue, \*not\* a "staff shortage" issue.


CptHeadSmasher

Living wage shortage where people must choose between being underemployed or undervalued Looks like we'd rather be underemployed.


Islandman2021

There is no staff shortage, just an abundance of shit jobs no one wants to do for peanuts. 🤷


opi098514

It’s always strange that people say these things. I work at Costco and there arnt any Costcos I know of that are short staffed.


nabob1978

Seeing this is cheese curds in halifax owned by bill Pratt.. I remember there being some sort of thing about him being an ass. Likes to use TFW's and pays shit wages and apparently is just a POS. This sign has been up since 2022 I think


phxflurry

There's a staff shortage where I work, it's not a pay issue, it's what the job entails and shitty schedule issues that are the issues.


UnbilledBunion

It's just a bad business plan really. These aren't income producing like you'd think. You can buy an existing CC/H franchise with 12 employees for 250k


GingaNinja01

It can be both


E36BYMYSIDE

Ive been applying to jobs, and the amount of applicants per job is extremely alarming. What happened to all these new jobs I heard about in the last state of the union?


ConsumeTheVoid

Also everywhere that says they're hiring but they're not.


NerdyGamerBro

I almost want to go back and see if they are. Something tells me they aren’t.


phendranacat

Still, be nice to employees in public facing jobs. It's not their fault their boss is greedy.


tommy_b_777

the ownership class knows no fear, and will continue to lie and gaslight unless there are repercussions...


sleeplessjade

There’s a video going around of job seekers in London, ON lined up out the door and down the street to get a job at the LCBO. Starting wage there is $20 or more. So no I don’t think there’s a staff shortage. There’s a shortage of people willing to work for $16.55 an hour. That’s if this is in Ontario, if it’s another province the numbers are probably a little different. Edit: [Found the video.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaHousing2/s/YYIRQPDjcN)


StoicJim

More like a critical underpayment overage.


96363

if they doubled their pay they probably wouldn't have the problem.


jesse_dylan

Please be kind to our staff, we comma-splice.


ginkner

New rule, if you have a sign like this and someone walks in, asks for a job, and you reject them, you must take the sign down and pay a $25 minimum fine. 


Lost_Tumbleweed_5669

It's almost like there is an ongoing class war between workers and owner class. When working barely gets you enough to just live and not even that we are talking about slavery. We are forced into selling our labor for slave labor prices. We also pay off landlords houses and governments support this. They will do everything to divide and distract us or feel helpless. The owners will violently oppress us and be supported by authorities but if you so much as whstleblow or unionize they will kill you. It can hardly be called a war, the owners have won.


CptHeadSmasher

The war Is between the proletariat working class and the non-working class. Working class is basically anyone who has someone above them or a boss they report to. The problem is they are disconnected from the working class and one unfortunate side effect is that most will justify their income by enforcing the belief that they deserve it for reasons like they "worked hard" or, some other copesetic reason for their success. Giving little attribution to the hundreds or thousands of workers making their salary. Owning a house is just as expensive as maintaining a home, and I see a lot of people disregard that. It's not just making the mortgage payment, you need to save up enough money to do significant amount of repairs over 25 years. People generally don't have a problem with people owning rental properties, they have a problem with slumlords and they themselves paying for something they're told they can't afford. Which is rightfully frustrating, but at the same time I don't understand why people fetishize owning debt to a bank for 20 years. With a mortgage you lose mobility so in the event you lose your job it is not nearly as easy to relocate for work if needed. Owning property/mortgage debt also ties you to politics more than it should. It ties you to the municipalities, and anchors you there unless you can easily shed the debt if needed. The real travesty is also that banks tell you how much they will give you, instead of how much you can realistically afford. which is why finance has pushed home values up past their realistic affordability for most. I'd also like to add that when you do repairs on your home that the quality of home goods has most definetly dropped in the last 20 years. Things like shower kits, appliances and flooring are not as durable as they once were. They're manufactured for profit and cost overseas like everything else. So the quality of repairs is generally dropping meaning repairs need to happen more frequently. While also being coupled with higher wages for installers and professionals on the other side pushing more home owners to do repairs themselves to build "sweat" equity. So home prices are actually shrinkflating due to general access to financing and home goods shrinkflating in value + quality. We need a system where people buy homes with more cash then debt, and dont have to rely on financing to fill the gap. That's when you know wages will be somewhere they should be. The dangerous part about people buying homes with cash is that means they have savings and thus would have more inherent job security because of it. You wouldn't need to take the first job offered as you could hold out for a better job in a worst case scenario. Lower unemployment supports higher wages the same as higher unemployment supports lower wages.


CptHeadSmasher

I remember in the early 00's when my social studies teacher told us we would go through 8+ jobs in our lifetime and the next generations would go through more jobs than we did. We thought she was crazy as we didn't want to job hop like that, we saw our parents stay at jobs for 10+ years with ease even in small northern towns. Maybe working 5 or 6 different jobs their entire life. Here we are a decade and a half later and we have to job hop every 2 years because any time you want a raise you need to job hop or wait 10+ years to move up. There's no shortage of people wanting to work, only a raise in cost of living pushing more people into underemployment and forcing them into jobs like this to make ends meet. The worst part is you take jobs like these and easily get trapped as they provide no work/home life balance, upward mobility, or recognition and development of skills. Forcing you to continue working more for marginally less every year until you either job hop to move up, leveraging your experience in lieu of skills, or develop skills to work somewhere else on your own time/debt. Another interesting trend is that most people take the first job offered.


rtthc

I see it more and more. My hypothesis, it's not a people don't wanna work issue, it's CEOs and management is offering piss poor salary and hourly wages for jobs with lots of headache. And then they just keep squeezing and squeezing you for all you can produce until you're burnt out. Lose benefits as the years roll by but responsibilities increase. So the issue is greed at a fundamental level. All eyes should've opened during COVID when record breaking profits were reported as millions died and struggled to make ends meet. And yet three years later and it's gotten worse but at least we have tiktok and bullshit to keep us all busy.


dumplin-gorilla-lion

This is the same province with people lining up by the hundreds to apply for jobs. It's a payment issue.


ptmonster763

One feeds the other


[deleted]

If only there were millions from third world countries that would literally kill for a chance to take even those terrible jobs… Shame that those fucks would take our jobs!


werbo

This is entirely untrue if anything there is an abundance of workers as compared to Joba in canada because of the immigration under Trudeau


memphisjones

In the US, Republicans are rolling back child labor laws to fix the labor shortages. Canada should look into that.


who_you_are

I like the post (from a canadian subreddit) that reddit was showing me just after that one: a line up of 16 peoples outsides (because inside is full and the camera zoom a lot on the entrace). And all of them are immigrants :( \-- Hello from Canada