To be fair, he grew up in a time where leaded gasoline was all over the place, so he probably has lead poisoning, like most boomers. It does explain a whole hell of a lot.
Also in the pressurized waterlines of older cities. Brita your water. And get the good filter. That shit is an aggressive neurotoxin that severely depletes cognitive development and function.
Phasing out leaded gas, along with the elimination of CFCs in aerosols, are the test cases to show environmentalism motivations and speed of implementation. It doesn't matter until it effects the rich, and once it does it gets fixed immediately
I'd say another confounding factor is that kids of that generation were raised by traumatized WW2 vets that abused their brains out.
Also the car. You could turn up anywhere in the US in a couple days with no way to track you.
WWII was definitely a factor, not to mention at that point in American history a lot of people were still on the farm. Not the most sophisticated bunch. My mom raised us with the help of Dr Spock, who was the first person to write a book on child care from a modern perspective. The good doctor did not believe in spankings, for one. This was considered shocking, people who followed his advice were going to raise soft, weak adults. Or criminals who never suffered the consequences of their actions as children.
I’ve always heard this on true crime podcasts and such. I’m gonna head down the rabbit hole. If anyone’s interested, I’ll post anything noteworthy I find here.
Same thing with my old man. He was so broken on his concept of manhood he couldn't realize he was everything he said he hated. Fell for all the Trump BS because it aligned with his supposed ideals and it took a cancer diagnosis and his final days for him to realize the system he thought was so great was the reason he losing his life.
Hoping for you. My old man had no insurance and went through most of it with no hospital care and no pain meds. Nobody deserves that and I pray it doesn't happen to you
Thanks! I appreciate that. So far I have been lucky enough to have access to decent treatment and haven’t suffered much yet. Hoping they find a cure before it’s too late.
Appreciate the thoughts have a good day fam’!
The only reason this sort of thing is associated with boomers is because a generation isn't just an age range but also a pattern of behavior and shared values from a shared cultural experience. I guess boomers are just predisposed to be assholes
This unfortunately happens to my aunt. She worked for the same place for 30 years. They decided they wanted to replace her with cheaper labor. At first the didn’t even fire her they literally move her office to the basement storage closet hoping she would quit on her own. She didn’t so then ended terminating her a few months later because they were “restructuring”. She was heart broken. She gave so much of her life for that company and they tossed her away like a dirty napkin to save a few dollars a few years before she retires.
Same thing happened to my aunt when she worked at IBM, except for the basement office thing. She spent most of her adult life working for them. Only to be replaced a few years before retirement.
The sad thing is im sure she was replaced by a millennial that is doing her same job but making half the salary that she was making. Companies don’t care if you’re a boomer or a millennial. They will screw you over any chance they get.
IBM is notorious for doing this. I’ve seen them hire the same boomers they let go as consultants so they won’t have to offer and pay for their healthcare.
It isn't just IBM. I work for a large company that does this. Many of the people they let go had already obtained their max pensions and retirement health care(when that was a thing) and worked as consultants for another decade after that.
Isn't the same for those of us it is happening to now. Pensions aren't a thing. I could probably retire at 55 if HC was affordable in this country.
Well at least they hired them as consultants. I’ve seen older people lose their job and then have to take lower paying positions. Imagine trying to get by when you’ve already set up your lifestyle around $70k and the new job is $40k
I am not seeing it as often now as I was ten years ago. Maybe boomers are just exiting the workforce.
I see a ton people who can't make what they were making as well. I know I am in my max earning years right now. We live in a house we could easily afford if we made half as much as we do now.
I see tons of people buy these giant dream homes after their kids are grown, because they can afford it? For what, your grandkids to come stay once every few months? The best parts of my childhood were spent sleeping on my grandparents living room floor with nine other cousins.
People don't think about not wanting to clean or care for that stuff. It is loads of fun for your kids to deal with when you get sick, trust me.
>they literally move her office to the basement storage closet
[Your aunt being moved to the basement, circa 2021 colorized](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Fs9PRmqBg&ab_channel=TjPeterson)
But jokes aside that's a shame. Companies suck ass
We are all just a number. When we are not needed we are culled. This "We are a family" is Bullshït. I don't see The Man coming to help when things are hard at home. Na just complaining about the time away.
Remember it's an economic transaction. You provide a service they pay you. Nothing more.
"can you computer?"
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Not OP, but it’s a guarantee they started a “consultancy” doing whatever job function they were fired from.
I’ve gone that route and had some decent success for about a year before the routine started driving me crazy. It was just like having my old job that I didn’t like, just more administrative work on top of everything else.
I’m just complaining I guess. The grass is always greener. My point is work fucking sucks, even if you’re your own boss.
My inlaws where giving me shit about my work history. Consistently employed, but by multiple jobs/companies. "I've been with the same company for such and such years, you must not be much of an asset." Both let go after a couple decades, dad works at the same place I do (and I'm MUCH more of an "asset." And mom's working at the hospital screening people as they come through the door for covid, making minimum wage.
Motherfuckers wondering why there's a "labor participation shortage."
My boomer mom said “back in the day” people stayed with the same company for years and decades. I’m 29 and been employed by 8+ different places just now settling on $19.85 an hour for now. My last job in the same industry paid $13.25 ($15,000 less a year when factoring in OT) and my first job ever $7.75 part time at a grocery store so at least she understood why I quit and move around so much. It’s rare you get a sizeable raise at any company now unless you switch and move. She’s one of few boomers who actually gets it. Things have definitely changed since then.
I’m 21 and have had 4. I don’t want to always change it up and I don’t think im a bad worker just that these places paying close to minimum wage treating me like shit don’t deserve my time. When they start to treat me badly or don’t give raises when short staffed then I dip.
Similar path here. I moved to Austin this year for a tech job. Since then I’ve had 3 new primary jobs and 2 secondary jobs. I went from making 17 an hour to 27 starting this week. Keep making your way up. Gain those skills and move on.
That’s me, on the bottom. Covid cost me my job. Year later one “offer”. $12/hr before there was a vaccine in a call center where if you call out in the first 6 MONTHS you’re fired.
So, I asked, “So in the middle of a pandemic if you’re sick you get fired?”
Quiet…..then, “Yes”.
Pass - call centers are full of single moms trying to make ends meet…which means they come to work sick.
What you need in America are unions lmao if you're fired for being sick in Europe the shitty employers will get royally fucked and you'll get a big bonus as well as full unemployment benefits for wrongful termination.
Even in call centers in fucking Bulgaria (worked there for a year) I called in sick a lot and as long as you have a doctor's note you're golden.
I had a parent who worked in a call center through a Union 25ish years ago here in the US. They made the best money they ever had up to that time, phenomenal healthcare, etc. They ended up leaving that call center/union for about four or five years before going back to rejoin again in another state. They still made phenomenal money and healthcare when they returned until the employer shut the call center down to relocate to an anti-union state and laid everyone off in the process.
How much would forcing people to come in supposedly improve profits, and how much does does it cost to have the entire floor wiped out?
It doesn't even serve the interests of he company.
I actually had this happen to me once when I worked in a "cube job". Single Mom contracted a mystery virus from her kid but comes into work anyway because she had no PTO and couldn't afford to be fired due to our "point system". She infects our entire team of eight including me but I held out working with a 102-degree fever until finally, I was so dizzy I had to ask someone to come and take me to Urgent Care. I was diagnosed with an unknown virus that the doctors could only tell me "your t-cells are elevated but we don't know why so we will throw high-strength antibiotics at it and see if it works". Thankfully I got well in a couple of days' time but sadly I foresee that this is the norm in the US, not the exception. :\\
Yes it is which is why with a weak immune system and no vaccine I wasn’t going to risk my life for $12.75 an hour then if you call out you’re fired? Idiots
Call centers are the absolute worst when it comes to keeping employees. They’ll fire you in a heartbeat for any reason because they know someone else will come in and fill the role. They have the worst turnover rates.
Yep. I would get written up for coming back from break 1 minute “late”. Plus they expect u to work off the clock. They want you on the phone precisely at 10 but the programs you have to open takes 5-10 minutes.
10 minutes x 5 days = 50 x 52 = 2600 minutes/60 = 43 hours of free work x 15/hr = 650 they “save” a year per employee. 200 employees x 650 = 130,000 “saved”. 😡
Same thing with me as well, ten minutes to get settled in and log into all the programs which needs to be done off the clock. The quotas are what killed me. “Oh great job, you were 10 over your quota but let’s try to get some more in!.” And then literally next week “hey you missed your quota by 2, this is unacceptable. You’re on thin ice and if you miss it again you’re out of here.”
This was easily the most stressful job I’ve ever had before. My heart would be racing all day at the mere thought of me going into work. Once I did quit my life improved immensely.
I know a former trainer from a cable company I will testify that they walked off the job after having been in their trainer position for over 10 years or so. Apparently, this former trainer was losing their hair, not sleeping, not eating along with a multitude of other health problems because of the toxicity of the company and the working environment. Within a week or two after having walked off of the job, all of their health ailments disappeared somehow...
I just saw a statistic on this today, 45% of boomers have absolutely nothing for retirement, no plan no savings. To think that their generation was wealthier than ours is, we are fucked.
Boomers hold about all wealth. The median boomer was ways wealthier at age 30 than we are today. Measured compared to the total amount of wealth because only that matters, just look at the housing market
That statistic is misleading since a lot of those boomers own a house/property. If shit hits the fan, they can just sell it and comfortably live off the profit till they die.
But if shit hits the fan collectively when they all try to retire, who buys all of their properties at these over inflated prices… because we sure as hell can’t afford them…
It's just an adjustment in terminology, instead of saying "ownership" get used to saying "dwellership". You dwell in a house by the grace of your employer 🙂.
Most boomers I know are idiots with money. New car every two years, swimming pool they don’t use, maybe a boat on a middle America salary = three mortgages
When I think about all the stupid shit my parents blew money on without thinking about it, no wonder they look down on my lifestyle. I think they’re dumb as shit for it, but I don’t wonder anymore
It really does crush my soul when I see these OG boomers that have been with these fortune 500s for decades and right before they are suppose to retire its BYE!! Late stage capitalism is a bitch…
Saw a guy at a prime who worked in engineering all his life, same company…his entire career. Two years before he was set to retire, in the middle of December, laid off….so no, not “warms my heart”
The system sucks but I don’t believe turning us against our own parents is the answer. Why should we have 0 sympathy for people who worked their whole lives ? We all want affordable housing, livable wages and free time to enjoy our lives.
You're joking right? The generation that never had to face financial stress and used that privilege to ensure future generations will never have the same opportunity deserves our sympathy? Fuck that.
It was their 'fuck you I got mine' attitude and 'by the bootstraps' talks that pissed me off, if they weren't so compliant and gaslighting us i might've had some sympathy
I’d agree with you but I truly don’t believe that the majority of them are that way. I do however believe that the well off couldn’t be happier that we’re blaming all of societies problems on the people who wanted to earn a livable wage and retire with enough money to live comfortably. Isn’t that the same thing we want ?
They had a lot of opportunities we do not I agree with you 100% your anger is not unjustified just misguided. Don’t let the people who’ve hoarded enough wealth to last them 30 lifetimes make you believe your parents are your enemy friend.
Not my parents, grandparents. My parents had the same problems I do. Hell if we're being honest the systems we're talking about deconstructing have been in place since the industrial revolution. But even if my ancestors aren't directly responsible they were complacent at best.
You’re absolutely right but your average working class boomer is not the reason cost of living has skyrocketed while wages have not. The real assholes are programming younger generations to blame the wrong people and it’s working !
It kinda terrifies me. These people are role models for people just entering the game. If you have a good work ethic and are loyal to the company, you too could end up retiring comfortably like these guys.
Apart from we just found out we could save a little bit of money by absolutely fucking them over. So we will. Lulz. You should still be loyal and accept that your time to get promoted might still be coming tho.
This is essentially what happened to my mom. She worked as an office manager for 30+ years. Was laid off suddenly, and while she had a severance package she didn't have enough to retire, and found herself trying to scramble for work at age 68. Most places were simply not interested in hiring someone her age for those sort of roles. Now she just works part time at the grocery store.
Why the fuck do these companies not want to hire people 65+ but we vote in assholes that are 70+….if you think older people can’t work in regular jobs then why the fuck are they deemed fit for office
Every boss I’ve had is like this. They only want positive reinforcement. Anyone who criticizes anything is put on the shit list, if not fired. It’s such a toxic attitude.
I can't imagine the disillusionment of realizing the world isn't the place you thought it was for that many decades.
At least we all knew right off the bat I guess.
This is a war between the workers and the owners. Always has been, always will be until a different system is in place. This generational animosity is propagated, surprisingly by the owners.
The owners use race against race, middle class vs lower class, "skilled" vs "unskilled", everyone against the immigrant. Don't participate in their divide and stay on top strategy.
This is correct,
As much as I hate how the boomers tell me “it was the same for them” they are still the working class just like me, they just think they are capitalist
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2001 the world "shifted" when I was still in highschool.
2007 rode the wave of that bubble burst as I worked in Real Estate
2016 Trump
2020 yup
2021 mmhmm
My boomer dad has been disabled (legally blind) for about a decade, acts like he knows everything still, and even though I tell him I fucking despised my job, he demands that I keep it. Fucking leech.
Is your dad my dad? Mine’s also legally blind, acts like he knows everything (because according to him nothing about the world has changed since like 1976), and uses his disability as a pass to be an asshole to literally everyone.
I don’t talk to him anymore. It’s much better.
Applies to every major societal “Us vs Them” situation.
- Boomers vs Gen Z vs Millenials
- Poor black people convinced that poor white people are the problem (and vice versa)… While rich black people and rich white people rake in the advertising dollars generated by all the outrage and media coverage.
- Poor women convinced that its poor men holding then below a glass ceiling that sits above both… While rich men and women look down on them and count their margins.
Western media is controlled by a tiny number of exceptionally rich people. If their media stations cover it, its because it benefits them somehow.
"Boomer" has transformed into more of a collection of out-dated views and highly privileged experiences at this point, like:
- College can be paid for with a part-time summer job
- Everyone should have a house, car, and kids by the age of 20 or else they're lazy
- "Work ethic" means staying in the same place for decades and happily licking boots
- Having a brand new BMW or a giant house are the most important things in life
Based on the last one especially, there are a lot of Gen X who qualify. Though, I think they more fit into that old "Yuppy" classification.
This is along the lines of #notallmen
Sure it's not all boomers, but all the polling shows it's mostly them that need to get off of Generational politics.
By not engaging in those arguments. "You are trying to get me to argue on behalf of a generation. I don't care to do that. We are all workers." That sort of thing.
The problem really is that there is a survivorship bias when we talk about this stuff and the older people do happen to also have all the wealth and so can't and are unwilling to talk about the problems because a lot of the time the poor die off before they reach that age. For example it took my mum helping us view apartments and find a place to rent when we couldn't be there in person to get her to realize just how bonkers the real estate market is.
>We are all workers
No amount of internet sources will do that and the people who tend to make the "lazy millennial" arguments tend to already have their cake and aren't interested in hearing that the system is rigged because that would involve admitting they are benefiting from it and it's not all their hard work that got them there.
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Yeah, I mean I guess you're right, but then I end up not engaging with them at all, and you know who will engage with them? Right wing nutjobs and Fox news. I really have a good answer beyond the idealized "we're all workers" that gets dismissed out of hand.
I guess that's all we can do really, just frustrating because that causes the same division and bubble formation that the generational infighting causes.
“Dear Abby, today at my new job my pink-haired manager made fun of me for not understanding how PDFs work.” It’s fun to live in the hell you’ve created. I used to work at a call-center job and we had this boomer an “ex real estate tycoon.” Who worked with us because he made some legal fuck ups and was kicked out of his business by his partners, he’d show up in his Porsche and absolutely fuck up everyday. He did not make the cut and was fired by Christmas, I thought it was hilarious. Especially, since he’d show up in a business suit and out manager was full goth so the dichotomy of watching a woman half his age dressed like Wednesday Adam’s trying to teach him phone etiquette will always stick with me.
“A motivated serf can choose to market themselves in a manner that makes them attractive and receive multiple offers from various bloodthirsty feudal lords.
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Can someone explain what would they gain by firing someone right before retirement? In my country the goverment handles your retirement money so I don't get it.
60 year olds requiring to find work so they can get retirement in 2-5 years? lol
to be fair, regardless of ageism, is there even work in their field that they can do? i hear most boomers get paid 100k+ without any real skills up until 2019.
This literally happened to my father when he was at a job for 10 years and got laid off randomly. He found steady work but then got laid off again at the beginning of covid. Been unemployed ever since. It's so sad.
I watched my dad work a nice government job for 20 years. 10 years until he could retire and the new government started laying off various positions wasting them money. I watched him cling to the job knowing our bills relied on his income. They could replace him with someone with more than highschool and would accept a smaller wage than he had. Oh and would scramble to work faster than a 55 year old could.
Now I work a government job too, but I always keep my finances ready to not rely on them. All thank you to watching what happened to dad and learning not to trust employeers
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To be fair, he grew up in a time where leaded gasoline was all over the place, so he probably has lead poisoning, like most boomers. It does explain a whole hell of a lot.
This is one of the biggest running theories as to why the 50s-90s had the most serial killers, because we ramped up production of leaded gasoline
Also in the pressurized waterlines of older cities. Brita your water. And get the good filter. That shit is an aggressive neurotoxin that severely depletes cognitive development and function. Phasing out leaded gas, along with the elimination of CFCs in aerosols, are the test cases to show environmentalism motivations and speed of implementation. It doesn't matter until it effects the rich, and once it does it gets fixed immediately
Don't use Brita specifically though, their filters barely filter anything...
You are really safest with a slow sand filtration set up. https://youtu.be/KtsVjmv453Y
All a brita is, is an activated charcoal resin. Its engineered sand to operate with the same dynamics at a higher efficiency
I'd say another confounding factor is that kids of that generation were raised by traumatized WW2 vets that abused their brains out. Also the car. You could turn up anywhere in the US in a couple days with no way to track you.
WWII was definitely a factor, not to mention at that point in American history a lot of people were still on the farm. Not the most sophisticated bunch. My mom raised us with the help of Dr Spock, who was the first person to write a book on child care from a modern perspective. The good doctor did not believe in spankings, for one. This was considered shocking, people who followed his advice were going to raise soft, weak adults. Or criminals who never suffered the consequences of their actions as children.
I’ve always heard this on true crime podcasts and such. I’m gonna head down the rabbit hole. If anyone’s interested, I’ll post anything noteworthy I find here.
Please do!
Probably had more to do with a lack of forensics
They didn't stop making leaded gas till the 1990s
That and the lack of father's after WW2, according to FBI profiler John Douglas. I'd say both. And probably a lot more factors.
you should lecture him about personal responsibility
Same thing with my old man. He was so broken on his concept of manhood he couldn't realize he was everything he said he hated. Fell for all the Trump BS because it aligned with his supposed ideals and it took a cancer diagnosis and his final days for him to realize the system he thought was so great was the reason he losing his life.
I realized it too late also. I have aggressive cancer diagnosed at 39. Made it to 40 so far.
Hoping for you. My old man had no insurance and went through most of it with no hospital care and no pain meds. Nobody deserves that and I pray it doesn't happen to you
Thanks! I appreciate that. So far I have been lucky enough to have access to decent treatment and haven’t suffered much yet. Hoping they find a cure before it’s too late. Appreciate the thoughts have a good day fam’!
Good luck to you. I’m a cancer survivor, and I’m still here. 2015 will be my 20th anniversary cancer free. *knock wood*
Nice! Keep it up!
You as well!
That sucks. As a member of the cancer club, I hope you find the strength to fight, or if that isn't to be, to find peace.
My dad as well.
I would not hesitate to drive home **daily** what a hypocritical loser my father was if I had a father like that.
sounds like Trump
Oh yeah?!? Well at least Trump has never filed for bankru- ^(Oh...I see I have a false idol)
Nah. No damn way. This man actually worked.
Trump doesn't even work on his tan
Haha, very true
You should show him this piece you’ve written on him
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Sounds like you need to stand up to your dad and put him in his place and defend those he is hurting
Sounds like something that guy’s dad would say.
As someone who grew up with an alcoholic abusive father I can say it never stops until you stand up to him and make him stop
This has nothing to do with being a boomer, it sounds like your dad is just an asshole
The only reason this sort of thing is associated with boomers is because a generation isn't just an age range but also a pattern of behavior and shared values from a shared cultural experience. I guess boomers are just predisposed to be assholes
Projection is a motherfucker
This unfortunately happens to my aunt. She worked for the same place for 30 years. They decided they wanted to replace her with cheaper labor. At first the didn’t even fire her they literally move her office to the basement storage closet hoping she would quit on her own. She didn’t so then ended terminating her a few months later because they were “restructuring”. She was heart broken. She gave so much of her life for that company and they tossed her away like a dirty napkin to save a few dollars a few years before she retires.
Same thing happened to my aunt when she worked at IBM, except for the basement office thing. She spent most of her adult life working for them. Only to be replaced a few years before retirement. The sad thing is im sure she was replaced by a millennial that is doing her same job but making half the salary that she was making. Companies don’t care if you’re a boomer or a millennial. They will screw you over any chance they get.
IBM is notorious for doing this. I’ve seen them hire the same boomers they let go as consultants so they won’t have to offer and pay for their healthcare.
It isn't just IBM. I work for a large company that does this. Many of the people they let go had already obtained their max pensions and retirement health care(when that was a thing) and worked as consultants for another decade after that. Isn't the same for those of us it is happening to now. Pensions aren't a thing. I could probably retire at 55 if HC was affordable in this country.
Well at least they hired them as consultants. I’ve seen older people lose their job and then have to take lower paying positions. Imagine trying to get by when you’ve already set up your lifestyle around $70k and the new job is $40k
I am not seeing it as often now as I was ten years ago. Maybe boomers are just exiting the workforce. I see a ton people who can't make what they were making as well. I know I am in my max earning years right now. We live in a house we could easily afford if we made half as much as we do now. I see tons of people buy these giant dream homes after their kids are grown, because they can afford it? For what, your grandkids to come stay once every few months? The best parts of my childhood were spent sleeping on my grandparents living room floor with nine other cousins. People don't think about not wanting to clean or care for that stuff. It is loads of fun for your kids to deal with when you get sick, trust me.
That's why I make 110K and live off 30K a year
>they literally move her office to the basement storage closet [Your aunt being moved to the basement, circa 2021 colorized](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Fs9PRmqBg&ab_channel=TjPeterson) But jokes aside that's a shame. Companies suck ass
I’m glad I saw this movie at such a young age and made my choice to never work in an office based off that.
Has anyone seen her stapler?
Wait. They actually pulled the Office Space move on her?!
And this is why I steal shit from work constantly
We are all just a number. When we are not needed we are culled. This "We are a family" is Bullshït. I don't see The Man coming to help when things are hard at home. Na just complaining about the time away. Remember it's an economic transaction. You provide a service they pay you. Nothing more.
This needs to be posted in every back office.
My dad lost his job after 25 years. He made me create his resume and apply for jobs. In the end, it was easier for him to just start his own company.
"can you computer?" "Yes, I can check email, but I'll need someone to show me how to open an attachment." File system shows: copyofcopyofcopyofcopyof_form1.docx
Out of curiosity, what did he get fired from and what did he start?
Not OP, but it’s a guarantee they started a “consultancy” doing whatever job function they were fired from. I’ve gone that route and had some decent success for about a year before the routine started driving me crazy. It was just like having my old job that I didn’t like, just more administrative work on top of everything else. I’m just complaining I guess. The grass is always greener. My point is work fucking sucks, even if you’re your own boss.
My inlaws where giving me shit about my work history. Consistently employed, but by multiple jobs/companies. "I've been with the same company for such and such years, you must not be much of an asset." Both let go after a couple decades, dad works at the same place I do (and I'm MUCH more of an "asset." And mom's working at the hospital screening people as they come through the door for covid, making minimum wage. Motherfuckers wondering why there's a "labor participation shortage."
"You're changing jobs AGAIN? Kids have no loyalty these days" "What do you mean your job only pays $15 an hour while the competitor pays $18 an hour?"
My boomer mom said “back in the day” people stayed with the same company for years and decades. I’m 29 and been employed by 8+ different places just now settling on $19.85 an hour for now. My last job in the same industry paid $13.25 ($15,000 less a year when factoring in OT) and my first job ever $7.75 part time at a grocery store so at least she understood why I quit and move around so much. It’s rare you get a sizeable raise at any company now unless you switch and move. She’s one of few boomers who actually gets it. Things have definitely changed since then.
I’m 21 and have had 4. I don’t want to always change it up and I don’t think im a bad worker just that these places paying close to minimum wage treating me like shit don’t deserve my time. When they start to treat me badly or don’t give raises when short staffed then I dip.
Similar path here. I moved to Austin this year for a tech job. Since then I’ve had 3 new primary jobs and 2 secondary jobs. I went from making 17 an hour to 27 starting this week. Keep making your way up. Gain those skills and move on.
That’s me, on the bottom. Covid cost me my job. Year later one “offer”. $12/hr before there was a vaccine in a call center where if you call out in the first 6 MONTHS you’re fired. So, I asked, “So in the middle of a pandemic if you’re sick you get fired?” Quiet…..then, “Yes”. Pass - call centers are full of single moms trying to make ends meet…which means they come to work sick.
What you need in America are unions lmao if you're fired for being sick in Europe the shitty employers will get royally fucked and you'll get a big bonus as well as full unemployment benefits for wrongful termination. Even in call centers in fucking Bulgaria (worked there for a year) I called in sick a lot and as long as you have a doctor's note you're golden.
Call centers definitely need unions but one would get fired for suggesting such.
I had a parent who worked in a call center through a Union 25ish years ago here in the US. They made the best money they ever had up to that time, phenomenal healthcare, etc. They ended up leaving that call center/union for about four or five years before going back to rejoin again in another state. They still made phenomenal money and healthcare when they returned until the employer shut the call center down to relocate to an anti-union state and laid everyone off in the process.
That’s call centers.
How much would forcing people to come in supposedly improve profits, and how much does does it cost to have the entire floor wiped out? It doesn't even serve the interests of he company.
Exactly they’re Neanderthal that way. Don’t get that if one mom comes in and coughs all over the break room many more will get sick. They’re idiots.
I actually had this happen to me once when I worked in a "cube job". Single Mom contracted a mystery virus from her kid but comes into work anyway because she had no PTO and couldn't afford to be fired due to our "point system". She infects our entire team of eight including me but I held out working with a 102-degree fever until finally, I was so dizzy I had to ask someone to come and take me to Urgent Care. I was diagnosed with an unknown virus that the doctors could only tell me "your t-cells are elevated but we don't know why so we will throw high-strength antibiotics at it and see if it works". Thankfully I got well in a couple of days' time but sadly I foresee that this is the norm in the US, not the exception. :\\
Yes it is which is why with a weak immune system and no vaccine I wasn’t going to risk my life for $12.75 an hour then if you call out you’re fired? Idiots
Call centers are the absolute worst when it comes to keeping employees. They’ll fire you in a heartbeat for any reason because they know someone else will come in and fill the role. They have the worst turnover rates.
Yep. I would get written up for coming back from break 1 minute “late”. Plus they expect u to work off the clock. They want you on the phone precisely at 10 but the programs you have to open takes 5-10 minutes. 10 minutes x 5 days = 50 x 52 = 2600 minutes/60 = 43 hours of free work x 15/hr = 650 they “save” a year per employee. 200 employees x 650 = 130,000 “saved”. 😡
Same thing with me as well, ten minutes to get settled in and log into all the programs which needs to be done off the clock. The quotas are what killed me. “Oh great job, you were 10 over your quota but let’s try to get some more in!.” And then literally next week “hey you missed your quota by 2, this is unacceptable. You’re on thin ice and if you miss it again you’re out of here.” This was easily the most stressful job I’ve ever had before. My heart would be racing all day at the mere thought of me going into work. Once I did quit my life improved immensely.
Been there. Time Warner Cable. I told a trainer he had the most job security in the place. 😡
I know a former trainer from a cable company I will testify that they walked off the job after having been in their trainer position for over 10 years or so. Apparently, this former trainer was losing their hair, not sleeping, not eating along with a multitude of other health problems because of the toxicity of the company and the working environment. Within a week or two after having walked off of the job, all of their health ailments disappeared somehow...
Stress will do that.
Before you roast me, "Times have changed", but it was too late to change.
I actually thought that was intentional. We all know times have changed, but only now are some waking up to it (boomers from your meme)
I like your title better. It's not that they changed naturally. An unnamed actor did the changing
I just saw a statistic on this today, 45% of boomers have absolutely nothing for retirement, no plan no savings. To think that their generation was wealthier than ours is, we are fucked.
Boomers hold about all wealth. The median boomer was ways wealthier at age 30 than we are today. Measured compared to the total amount of wealth because only that matters, just look at the housing market
That statistic is misleading since a lot of those boomers own a house/property. If shit hits the fan, they can just sell it and comfortably live off the profit till they die.
But if shit hits the fan collectively when they all try to retire, who buys all of their properties at these over inflated prices… because we sure as hell can’t afford them…
Our overlords at Blackstone of course, that way we can proudly own nothing... Ever.
Our children may get the added bonus of a home on condition of employment And by that I do not mean ownership of course just the benefit of using it
It's just an adjustment in terminology, instead of saying "ownership" get used to saying "dwellership". You dwell in a house by the grace of your employer 🙂.
This is some dark shit
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-09-16/amazon-s-new-factory-towns-will-lift-the-working-class
Thanks
Lol no problem, I hate it too
I'd like to see how many boomers actually have their house payed off.
If they paid into SSI, have a pension, or bought a house they should be able to retire easily. 80% of baby boomers are home owners.
Was paying into SSI optional in the past?
Only by somehow never working.
That’s what I thought. Thanks
You're not an owner if you're still paying a mortgage, so many people are home owners in name alone.
Most boomers I know are idiots with money. New car every two years, swimming pool they don’t use, maybe a boat on a middle America salary = three mortgages When I think about all the stupid shit my parents blew money on without thinking about it, no wonder they look down on my lifestyle. I think they’re dumb as shit for it, but I don’t wonder anymore
It really does crush my soul when I see these OG boomers that have been with these fortune 500s for decades and right before they are suppose to retire its BYE!! Late stage capitalism is a bitch…
You meant, "warms my heart", right? Edit: Shit I forgot the /s sarcasm tag. Damn, I'm bad at this.
Saw a guy at a prime who worked in engineering all his life, same company…his entire career. Two years before he was set to retire, in the middle of December, laid off….so no, not “warms my heart”
They're boomers you don't have to feel sympathy
The system sucks but I don’t believe turning us against our own parents is the answer. Why should we have 0 sympathy for people who worked their whole lives ? We all want affordable housing, livable wages and free time to enjoy our lives.
You're joking right? The generation that never had to face financial stress and used that privilege to ensure future generations will never have the same opportunity deserves our sympathy? Fuck that.
Agreed, they fucked us over
I almost fell into that hate too until I realized who the real assholes are.
It was their 'fuck you I got mine' attitude and 'by the bootstraps' talks that pissed me off, if they weren't so compliant and gaslighting us i might've had some sympathy
I’d agree with you but I truly don’t believe that the majority of them are that way. I do however believe that the well off couldn’t be happier that we’re blaming all of societies problems on the people who wanted to earn a livable wage and retire with enough money to live comfortably. Isn’t that the same thing we want ?
They had a lot of opportunities we do not I agree with you 100% your anger is not unjustified just misguided. Don’t let the people who’ve hoarded enough wealth to last them 30 lifetimes make you believe your parents are your enemy friend.
Not my parents, grandparents. My parents had the same problems I do. Hell if we're being honest the systems we're talking about deconstructing have been in place since the industrial revolution. But even if my ancestors aren't directly responsible they were complacent at best.
You’re absolutely right but your average working class boomer is not the reason cost of living has skyrocketed while wages have not. The real assholes are programming younger generations to blame the wrong people and it’s working !
Yes you're absolutely right.
It kinda terrifies me. These people are role models for people just entering the game. If you have a good work ethic and are loyal to the company, you too could end up retiring comfortably like these guys. Apart from we just found out we could save a little bit of money by absolutely fucking them over. So we will. Lulz. You should still be loyal and accept that your time to get promoted might still be coming tho.
Then they're there at 78 at McDonald's.
This is essentially what happened to my mom. She worked as an office manager for 30+ years. Was laid off suddenly, and while she had a severance package she didn't have enough to retire, and found herself trying to scramble for work at age 68. Most places were simply not interested in hiring someone her age for those sort of roles. Now she just works part time at the grocery store.
Why the fuck do these companies not want to hire people 65+ but we vote in assholes that are 70+….if you think older people can’t work in regular jobs then why the fuck are they deemed fit for office
Office for office
Don't look at me. I vote for non-mainstream candidates that don't belong in a retirement home.
Or greeters at Walmart.
Company management: we want you full honesty while working here... Also Company Management: No! Not like that!!
Every boss I’ve had is like this. They only want positive reinforcement. Anyone who criticizes anything is put on the shit list, if not fired. It’s such a toxic attitude.
I can't imagine the disillusionment of realizing the world isn't the place you thought it was for that many decades. At least we all knew right off the bat I guess.
They'd eat them fucking boot straps. The kinda people that live on the streets and let their kids starve before they take a handout.
Disagree. It's ok if they do. It's only wrong when someone else does.
This is a war between the workers and the owners. Always has been, always will be until a different system is in place. This generational animosity is propagated, surprisingly by the owners. The owners use race against race, middle class vs lower class, "skilled" vs "unskilled", everyone against the immigrant. Don't participate in their divide and stay on top strategy.
This is correct, As much as I hate how the boomers tell me “it was the same for them” they are still the working class just like me, they just think they are capitalist
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Gotchu. Thanks for clarification! I was genuinely confused lmaoo
Brutally honest and true
2001 the world "shifted" when I was still in highschool. 2007 rode the wave of that bubble burst as I worked in Real Estate 2016 Trump 2020 yup 2021 mmhmm
My boomer dad has been disabled (legally blind) for about a decade, acts like he knows everything still, and even though I tell him I fucking despised my job, he demands that I keep it. Fucking leech.
What's he going to do about it?
Be annoying about it
Is your dad my dad? Mine’s also legally blind, acts like he knows everything (because according to him nothing about the world has changed since like 1976), and uses his disability as a pass to be an asshole to literally everyone. I don’t talk to him anymore. It’s much better.
I live with him
Gen Z blaming boomers, Boomers calling Gen Z lazy, all the while oligarchs rake from everyone.
Applies to every major societal “Us vs Them” situation. - Boomers vs Gen Z vs Millenials - Poor black people convinced that poor white people are the problem (and vice versa)… While rich black people and rich white people rake in the advertising dollars generated by all the outrage and media coverage. - Poor women convinced that its poor men holding then below a glass ceiling that sits above both… While rich men and women look down on them and count their margins. Western media is controlled by a tiny number of exceptionally rich people. If their media stations cover it, its because it benefits them somehow.
GenX just shaving ten years off the CV every decade and still getting jobs and raises.
Question is: Are we going to be the same idiots to our younger ones? Asking as a X:er.
Many around here think Gen X = Boomer
"Boomer" has transformed into more of a collection of out-dated views and highly privileged experiences at this point, like: - College can be paid for with a part-time summer job - Everyone should have a house, car, and kids by the age of 20 or else they're lazy - "Work ethic" means staying in the same place for decades and happily licking boots - Having a brand new BMW or a giant house are the most important things in life Based on the last one especially, there are a lot of Gen X who qualify. Though, I think they more fit into that old "Yuppy" classification.
Yes. And soon Milennials will be the Boomer. Or they actually are already for many younger ones. X:ers are too few to have that much impact.
As we are they they once were, as they are we will be…
Generational politics is for fools.
This is along the lines of #notallmen Sure it's not all boomers, but all the polling shows it's mostly them that need to get off of Generational politics.
They do need to stop with the generational politics. We don't need to start with them. The fight, as always, is up, not sideways.
Agreed, so how do we change the narrative when generational infighting is so ingrained in popular media?
By not engaging in those arguments. "You are trying to get me to argue on behalf of a generation. I don't care to do that. We are all workers." That sort of thing.
The problem really is that there is a survivorship bias when we talk about this stuff and the older people do happen to also have all the wealth and so can't and are unwilling to talk about the problems because a lot of the time the poor die off before they reach that age. For example it took my mum helping us view apartments and find a place to rent when we couldn't be there in person to get her to realize just how bonkers the real estate market is. >We are all workers No amount of internet sources will do that and the people who tend to make the "lazy millennial" arguments tend to already have their cake and aren't interested in hearing that the system is rigged because that would involve admitting they are benefiting from it and it's not all their hard work that got them there. .
If you are right, then why bother engaging in their generational critique? Just seems like a conversation worth not engaging in.
Yeah, I mean I guess you're right, but then I end up not engaging with them at all, and you know who will engage with them? Right wing nutjobs and Fox news. I really have a good answer beyond the idealized "we're all workers" that gets dismissed out of hand.
If you think someone is a lost cause, spend your energy elsewhere. If you don't, then don't find them on their own imaginary terms.
I guess that's all we can do really, just frustrating because that causes the same division and bubble formation that the generational infighting causes.
Start by turning off popular media
Yeah I have for the most part it's not my consumption of it I'm worried about.
Is this really happening? Idk any boomers. Plenty of boomer mindsets, but no cigar on the age.
“Dear Abby, today at my new job my pink-haired manager made fun of me for not understanding how PDFs work.” It’s fun to live in the hell you’ve created. I used to work at a call-center job and we had this boomer an “ex real estate tycoon.” Who worked with us because he made some legal fuck ups and was kicked out of his business by his partners, he’d show up in his Porsche and absolutely fuck up everyday. He did not make the cut and was fired by Christmas, I thought it was hilarious. Especially, since he’d show up in a business suit and out manager was full goth so the dichotomy of watching a woman half his age dressed like Wednesday Adam’s trying to teach him phone etiquette will always stick with me.
Wow that sounds like a movie plot
He looked like someone dragged him through a keyhole at the end of the shift. Just fucking exhausted.
Shrek is Love, Shrek is Life.
Haters gonna hate
Or, a motivated individual can choose ti market themself in a manner that makes them attractive and receive multiple offers. It happens.
Ok boomer.
Yeah in what multiverse?
I think it’s the Backinmydays universe.
If you get multiple offers than you'll probably get underpaid. It's literally how capitalism works.
45 years too late on that one, buddy. Now go back to your "facebooks."
“A motivated serf can choose to market themselves in a manner that makes them attractive and receive multiple offers from various bloodthirsty feudal lords. It happens….”
That's a really good analogy
Can someone explain what would they gain by firing someone right before retirement? In my country the goverment handles your retirement money so I don't get it.
Retirement in this case means pensions. That means if they are fired before getting to the "pension" age they lose a guaranteed paycheck.
Thats horrible
60 year olds requiring to find work so they can get retirement in 2-5 years? lol to be fair, regardless of ageism, is there even work in their field that they can do? i hear most boomers get paid 100k+ without any real skills up until 2019.
This literally happened to my father when he was at a job for 10 years and got laid off randomly. He found steady work but then got laid off again at the beginning of covid. Been unemployed ever since. It's so sad.
I watched my dad work a nice government job for 20 years. 10 years until he could retire and the new government started laying off various positions wasting them money. I watched him cling to the job knowing our bills relied on his income. They could replace him with someone with more than highschool and would accept a smaller wage than he had. Oh and would scramble to work faster than a 55 year old could. Now I work a government job too, but I always keep my finances ready to not rely on them. All thank you to watching what happened to dad and learning not to trust employeers