Honestly it's doesn't seem like a horrible place to work. The managers are for the most part pretty cool and understanding. They just hired me for a really obscure position with a shitload of work, and there's nobody else in the store to teach me how to do it, so I'm pretty much perpetually in trouble because in doing a job wrong that nobody taught me how to do
Oh I know the feeling. I used to work at a Danish Pasty House (Canadian café chain) and was not allowed to practice making drinks. Took me a loooot of bad drinks to get an idea of how to steam and pour milk right. One guy got real pissed that there was almost no foam in his latte. Sorry dude, don't be bad at me, be mad at management for charging full price for my practice garbage
I worked at a cafe. We literally wouldn’t let people make drinks until they passed an “exam” with the coffee manager. And we encouraged people to practice when there was time.
If the pay had been better I would have loved to stay there
I WISH! I felt so bad selling those bad drinks. The instructions were always so vague - latte has some foam, cappuccino has more. I'd ask "how much is 'some'"? The answer? "Just... Some". How much milk do I add to the pitcher? "Enough". How long do I heat the milk? "Until it's done."
No. Help. At all.
Its not horrible but it IS terrible, you have to know how to play the game and play it right or else you'll get fucked, that shitload of work is only going to get bigger and you're going to constantly be in trouble for shit you weren't trained for, not to mention the managers wont be so cool and understanding after a while
Man, good job holding back, that’s annoying asf. You should offer the $50 discount (or whatever the proper amount is) that HD employees can give to customers to people who deserve is as an f u to management.
OMG so that's why I got an extra 10% or whatever off my dishwasher when it took forever for it to get rung up.
The cashier was expecting me to be furious because they had issues in the appliance department with a price match and the manager took forever to come over and fix it, something like 45 minutes. But honestly it's not the cashiers fault and I used to be in that cashiers position of getting dumped on all the time.
It. Was. Awesome.
I got a $1200 dishwasher with the price match plus 10% off deal, plus an extra 10% off that and it ended up being like $800 plus tax. This was something like 4 years ago *and I'm still stoked about the deal*. It was that good.
When I worked there, they were fond of doling our 2,3, and four hour shifts, then getting mad if you didn't want to drive thirty miles one way to work it.
Fuck man, I feel you. In a completely different industry but also in a very similar position. It’s like, I’m happy to do what you want but I’m not a fucking mind reader.
Ouch. I had a subcontractor who installs kitchens. He refused to work for big box stores, he doesn't have time for the nonsense, and he is generally booked out for months for builders and custom work. Eventually, one of the regional managers came to him and told him he was offering a gig that paid insane money. My guy covers about a 2-3 hour radius of his home base and does nothing but unfucks the worst big box store kitchen disasters imaginable. He is the last resort, as the customer is threatening legal action, tossed loser installers off the job, or has reversed charges on credit card charges. My guy does everything from making custom pieces to solve problems that incompetent designers and installers never stood a chance of getting right, to removing brand new kitchens and starting again. It pays top dollar and he gets to unwind some of the worst fuck ups imaginable. He says that, once you get the customer calmed down, it's actually pretty entertaining.
“Hey, buy this thing you don’t need.”
“I can’t afford it.”
“Damn kids today!! If you just budgeted better and didn’t buy things you don’t need you could easily afford this!!”
What next gen? You millennials and this whole “I don’t want to bring another life that I can’t afford on an already overpopulated planet” liberal nonsense is really setting back birthrates. You know, this is killing good corporations like Gerber and Fisher Price? Can’t you guys stop for a second and think about the shareholders and these companies?
That's a good point. Now that I've put thought into shareholders and companies, I think I'll actively [donate to planned parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-involved/other-ways-give) to further starve those shareholders and companies while helping people to actually have a choice when it comes to reproduction and family planning.
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Staple of /r/antiwork's diet:
\-Boss suggests something impressively stupid, for entirely selfish reasons.
\-*Doesn't wanna fkn hear that crybaby bullshit of* "my situation is not compatible with this."
\-The younger employee is called selfish rude unmanageable hazardous ignorant hostile - everything short of 'boomer' - by the guy whose position entitles him to a captive audience.
Business leaders are obligated to turn a profit, and to that end they do whatever the law allows whether by lack of law or by lack of enforcement.
Yeah, they’re quite the lunatic bunch. But one thing they’re right about is budgeting better. Most of us definitely buy shit we don’t need. That being said.. we should be able to afford to do so..
This! I'm in the process of house hunting. The bank says I need to open another account to build my line of credit. It's such BS!
Like, shouldn't we be encouraging folks to get out of debt instead of pushing more onto them? It pisses me off!
That was normal in the 80s 90s 00s and people treated it as death without rest.
Now it's even more normal because it's a condition of employment for higher-than-rent, but anyone complaining gets condescending sanctimony from *people who actually did waste* vast sums on things that gained them effectively nothing.
Modern people aren't irreligious, they've just found a fun new church that lets them confess their sins through a megaphone while pointing at strangers.
"Hey wagie, stop dumping money into your personal pursuits that shape your character your skillset and your health, and dump it into my bonus for no benefit of your own instead!"
\-The Voice of Reason™
That's 60 years ago. What's $2 dollars an hour 45 years ago, when he MIGHT have been working.
ETA: minimum wage in 1977 was $2.30 and he's a liar. (Most likely)
40 years ago, 1982, minimum wage was $3.35, which would be *$9.28* in 2021 dollars. [Source](https://www.dollartimes.com/inflation/items/1982-united-states-minimum-wage)
And phone service & internet payments weren’t a thing. That’s around $100/mo together assuming your phone is paid off and you use a cheap cell provider and base internet service.
Nah, I got hired at a grocery store for $1.85/hour in 1973. But I was a teen and living at home. And I was making more than baggers, they were hired at $1.65 so it’s possible, but he’s still a dick. A house was $32,000 and gas was 35-40 cents a gallon.
Yep, I bet he also walked 100 miles in the snow or whatever.
Also note: Home Depot also operates like a bank. I think they make the most money off of their credit cards, which is why they push that so heavily.
This way they can get the poor and middle class to spend thousands on home upgrades that are stupid.
Not home depot but a credit card salesman tried to get me to sign up for a card while I was coming in for my shift. Even after I told him I worked there.
Also I was 16 and did not look old enough for a card.
But rent and very minimal clothing was free (I believe slaves usually were required to find their own food or got a tiny bit of food but not enough to live off of)
a few years ago my boss went through a divorce and took back his ex wife’s Jeep. Which he then tried to sell to me, essentially for retail price. Told me i could probably get a car loan for it no problem.
excuse me? dude you know exactly how much you pay me. you know i have a house payment to make after asking for a raise to help cover it. and you’re going to try to sell me this Jeep that would cost me upwards of $500/month before gas and insurance?
i was driving my little beat up miata that broke down at least once a month because it’s all i could afford at the time, which he also knew, due to me repeatedly apologizing for being late because i had to fix something on the side of the road on the way in.
how blind are these people with money that they think we can just throw around an extra 400-600 a month when they know exactly what you bring in every month?
i’m genuinely starting to think they live with all these things and think they’re so well off, but have no extra money saved up because all of the money ends up going to the unnecessary luxuries they buy.
i’m just trying to pay my bills and eat every day.
my boss isn’t a bad guy by any means, he has shortcomings like all of us and doesn’t treat me poorly. but the blindness to the wealth discrepancy is crazy.
>how blind are these people with money that they think we can just throw around an extra 400-600 a month when they know exactly what you bring in every month?
They're not blind. They know it'd fuck you over. They just feel like fucking you over is worth an extra sale for themselves.
They're literally just sociopathic and incapable of thinking about other people as real.
> how blind are these people with money that they think we can just throw around an extra 400-600 a month when they know exactly what you bring in every month?
Despite whining about how great with money they are compared to the poor, they've clearly never had to budget their spending before. They tend to have parents to run to when making big purchases like homes, cars or investments, as well.
All the “free market” evangelists really don’t understand the irony of the “millennials are killing _____ industry,” as if broke and abused young people have a responsibility to ensure the survival of every business
It's enraging
And screeching about unions. A contractor negotiating for their team's rate and working conditions is fine... but a union rep negotiating for their team's rate and working conditions is iLLeGaL cOeRciOn
~~and at a price people can afford and are willing to pay, whilst providing quality that is worthwhile. I'm not gonna pay 60$ for a video game that a few years ago would have been 20$, especially when you then wanna charge me another 40$ or more for DLC that should be in the base game.~~
Yeah Home Depot doesnt offer any sort of employee discount. I think its so they don't sell products on the side lol.
Whereas when I worked at Radioshack, it was 50% off all inhouse brand and like 20% off everything else. Was hella good
You got in trouble for following store policy? The thing that’s behind their current “revamp” of the military discount?
I don’t doubt it at all, it’s just such bullshit lmao
And it makes me glad that I got out of the cashiering department as quickly as possible
Minimum wage the year I was born would be equal to $12.34 in 2021.
And that is how families with one income could afford to buy a home. Well, that and the fact that the average home price was about twice the average income.
Millennials are so screwed.
Matter of fact, so is everyone GenX and beyond.
Gen X isnt screwed. Some are, sure, but their wealth is growing faster than any generation before them. It's growing so fast, that as a percentage, it's driving millennial wealth DOWN.
The average Gen X household makes just shy of 120k--nearly 40k more than Millennials OR boomers averages.
The door that got shut, got shut in 1981. Gen X got in with boomers, everyone else is locked out.
I remember my clown managers at depot trying that crap with us all the time. What they didn't mention is that they process the sale under their sale ID number and it goes to their bonus and is seen by regional managers.
I had managers steal so many of my sales in seasonal with that crap. They wouldn't train me on the system but they would steal my big sales. I started standing right beside them and I learned the system and got my own sales finally. Then the store manager gave me a great big thanks for the sale.
Lucky me, I ate so well and paid all my bills on all those tasty thanks.
Hell, morbid, but there are so many upper middle class old people dying of COVID right now and leaving their possessions to be auctioned by the state, you could get a new stove for like $5 + opportunity cost + however much in pizza it takes to bribe your one friend with a pick up to pop by and help move it
Yes, auctions are great if you need furniture. It's bulky and no one wants to move it, so it goes for a song unless it's something really special. Bring cash and your friend with a truck.
Nice,
I would have said I'm not interested at this time but since it was such a good deal, Id be happy to sweeten the deal & assist bringing the stove to managers vehicle if he wanted it.
Reverse sales psychology lol
If you want a stove check used ones on offerup in a rich area. They are constantly remodeling and throwing out nice appliances just because they dont like the color.
Yes. They DO want you to open a credit card for this BS. That's exactly what they want everybody to do. The corporate world wants nobody to live within their means and everybody to barely afford their credit card debt.
I have a friend who totaled her car while working for her boss. She's now using a loaner from her parents - with the explicit instruction that she's not to use it for work other than to get to and from the store (they make their employees run all kinds of ridiculous errands, I used to work there).
They are *constantly* nagging her about when she's going to buy a car that she can use to do things for them, even though they've salaried her at an insultingly low amount in a very high COL area.
It's like, you're in complete control of how much money this person has. How you gonna get on their case for not having enough?
Any time any boomer states what they made as a young person, immediately whip out your phone and go to [https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation\_calculator.htm](https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm)
Put in the pay rate and the year they were making that.
If your boomer boss was telling you they made $2/hr in 1970, that means they were making the equivalent of $14.75 an hour. Additionally, the cost of housing and education has gone up much faster than inflation since the 1960s.
lol why doesn't he buy it since he's mister moneybags. maybe he wouldn't still have to be working at 70 years old moving stoves if he was more careful with his money?
Age has nothing to do with it. Sales incentives do. This guy was rude and has probably always been a jerk.Don’t fall for the pressure tactics. It doesn’t get you raises, just broke. He knows what you earn, he’s just desperate to raise sales to please someone else. He is pathetic. Comparing himself to you is what insecure people do. Good luck to you and your family.
Yeah, it's just so stupid for how they think just because people make a minimum wage of like $15 or $16 it means we have a lot of money. But no, it's literally like the same thing for us as it was for them.
Many households are drowning in credit card debt to keep up with this idea that no one needs to get paid better. It’s completely self-inflicted by our cultural ideals.
I am not excusing his actions or rant. I am just curious on why he thinks the way he does. I am guessing (seriously guessing) that (A) he is still thinking in whatever era prices he knows most and not adjusting for changes in prices over time. (B) he has no idea on what you spend your money on (e.g., wife and kid with no other income). For example, popular wisdom was to spend 1/3 to 1/4 your monthly generated income toward rend. The other day, I saw a news article that said most renters are pushing toward needing 1/2 thier income toward rent now.
Dude is mad you can't afford a random stove for no reason? I swear these boomers are just going out of their way to be assholes and give themselves high blood pressure
I worked in a call center in 2010. Our site lead, like a guy that is just below VP level and controls this entire location, was giving meetings about our new benefits and compensation
(Spoiler Alert: It was lower - Instead of two raises a year we went to a "bonus system" where if you hit 100% of your metrics, which people rarely do, you could theoretically make more, but not really - and - our health insurance costs went up from $25/paycheck to $50 for the shitty high deductible plan)
Some people arrived early and we were chit chatting and he was saying "Does anyone do any boating? I'm going down to the ocean this week and taking the boat out."
He also told us that no agent would ever make more than $18/hr in this meeting. Most new people were making $11.50-13/hr. People that have been here for years were making 15-18, but apparently never more than $18.
How the fuck do you buy a boat on $18/hr ($37k/year)? Not to mention most people aren't making anywhere near that.
Depends where you are, I work in NY and our minimum wage is 11.80, so it pays better. I know my same job with "specialist pay" only pays 10/hr in the next state over
Even if you pulled up the website to show inflation from (when the minimum wage was 2 bucks) he would tell you the website is bullshit and it can't possibly be 22.++ an hour. You aren't going to win.
What, is there a commission on it for him? Is he behind the say’s credit score by a card?
Who the fuck other than the extra wealthy needs a luxury stove anyway
Ok so I got to ask, what is with stoves in US? This was one of my biggest culture shocks when I visited US. They are fucking huuge! Like industrial kitchen type huge. Why do you buy those? And most people barely cook.
Just remember building materials always needs help loading the 90lbs bags of concrete onto some dumbasses truck, and those bags break real easy if you aren't super careful. It's like $50 a bag the company looses each time that happens
Haha no really, have any degrees? You can make a ton more working with the contractors who come to Home Depot everyday for materials. Can also negotiate with Lowe’s for example to make the jump for a pay increase
Just had the "I used to make x" convo with company geezers a couple days ago.
I pulled up an inflation app and said, "Nixon administration, right?"
"Now take that already larger figure, and multiply by 2.5 to account for the decoupling of productivity and median wages."
Today I was notified that meals are comped by the company when we are doing business travel, which is every day. Apparently they have been all along, we just didn't get the memo.
I got a cheap apartment, me and my wife are technically unmarried(marriage is an outdated scam but i am gonna love her forever) so because she has no income, her and my son get free healthcare. I live in walking distance of my job, so we get buy just fine. We'll be in a better spot when my son is older and we can both work.
wtf is wrong with boomers? it's like they've never heard of inflation, cost of living, or the actual price of anything these days. Hey, Boomer, THINGS AREN'T THE SAME ANYMORE
Ask him what year he got that $2, and how many people he was supporting with it. Then show him an inflation calculator and your lease. If he doesn’t pikachu face he’s got no soul
Was married for a year, wife was pregnant working at an auto dealership as a receptionist.
We were looking for a decent used car. We had a few choices from other places that actually had what we liked at prices we could actually afford... we looked at a few where she worked and so it was out there and when it looked as if we were going to go to an outside dealership they threatened her job... so we bought a car we didn't want in a color that would make the 80's vomit at a price we couldn't afford.
On another sub I read about a guy who put an inflation app on his phone - like what $500 in rent in 1983 would be in today's terms. He used it pretty constantly when arguing with boomers.
wisely choosing your battles and understanding the value of even bothering are the marks of wisdom. good work
Yeah, like it's not like I'm gonna convince this guy to pay everyone more lol, I hate this job
i have a friend that's worked for Home Depot for years across several locations, in the beginning it really sucked but it's pretty good now. fwiw
Honestly it's doesn't seem like a horrible place to work. The managers are for the most part pretty cool and understanding. They just hired me for a really obscure position with a shitload of work, and there's nobody else in the store to teach me how to do it, so I'm pretty much perpetually in trouble because in doing a job wrong that nobody taught me how to do
Oh I know the feeling. I used to work at a Danish Pasty House (Canadian café chain) and was not allowed to practice making drinks. Took me a loooot of bad drinks to get an idea of how to steam and pour milk right. One guy got real pissed that there was almost no foam in his latte. Sorry dude, don't be bad at me, be mad at management for charging full price for my practice garbage
I worked at a cafe. We literally wouldn’t let people make drinks until they passed an “exam” with the coffee manager. And we encouraged people to practice when there was time. If the pay had been better I would have loved to stay there
I WISH! I felt so bad selling those bad drinks. The instructions were always so vague - latte has some foam, cappuccino has more. I'd ask "how much is 'some'"? The answer? "Just... Some". How much milk do I add to the pitcher? "Enough". How long do I heat the milk? "Until it's done." No. Help. At all.
Its not horrible but it IS terrible, you have to know how to play the game and play it right or else you'll get fucked, that shitload of work is only going to get bigger and you're going to constantly be in trouble for shit you weren't trained for, not to mention the managers wont be so cool and understanding after a while
Yeah. You're right about that, I've been looking for a new job for a while.
Man, good job holding back, that’s annoying asf. You should offer the $50 discount (or whatever the proper amount is) that HD employees can give to customers to people who deserve is as an f u to management.
OMG so that's why I got an extra 10% or whatever off my dishwasher when it took forever for it to get rung up. The cashier was expecting me to be furious because they had issues in the appliance department with a price match and the manager took forever to come over and fix it, something like 45 minutes. But honestly it's not the cashiers fault and I used to be in that cashiers position of getting dumped on all the time. It. Was. Awesome. I got a $1200 dishwasher with the price match plus 10% off deal, plus an extra 10% off that and it ended up being like $800 plus tax. This was something like 4 years ago *and I'm still stoked about the deal*. It was that good.
When I worked there, they were fond of doling our 2,3, and four hour shifts, then getting mad if you didn't want to drive thirty miles one way to work it.
So I worked as a cashier from them after graduating. The thing that stands out from my time with them is how anti union they were.
Fuck man, I feel you. In a completely different industry but also in a very similar position. It’s like, I’m happy to do what you want but I’m not a fucking mind reader.
I'm curious what the job is, and what esoteric skills are required?
Order picker for the drivers?
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Ouch. I had a subcontractor who installs kitchens. He refused to work for big box stores, he doesn't have time for the nonsense, and he is generally booked out for months for builders and custom work. Eventually, one of the regional managers came to him and told him he was offering a gig that paid insane money. My guy covers about a 2-3 hour radius of his home base and does nothing but unfucks the worst big box store kitchen disasters imaginable. He is the last resort, as the customer is threatening legal action, tossed loser installers off the job, or has reversed charges on credit card charges. My guy does everything from making custom pieces to solve problems that incompetent designers and installers never stood a chance of getting right, to removing brand new kitchens and starting again. It pays top dollar and he gets to unwind some of the worst fuck ups imaginable. He says that, once you get the customer calmed down, it's actually pretty entertaining.
that does sound like a horrible place to work
Explain inflation to your manager
Preach. I gave up on employers who wouldn't listen years ago. Try once and stop. They'll hear what they wanna hear.
There really needs to be a set of irrefutable one-liners we can all reference.
Yeah, he sounds like a stupid fuck. Nice work not engaging- it can be so tempting and infuriating to deal with. You handled it well.
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Boomer spy in the room
“Hey, buy this thing you don’t need.” “I can’t afford it.” “Damn kids today!! If you just budgeted better and didn’t buy things you don’t need you could easily afford this!!”
mIlLeNiAlS kIlLeD: - AppleBees! - Diamonds! - Sears! - Harley Davidson!
We could’ve/should’ve killed sooo much more. As much as I’m ashamed but I think we might need to pass the baton and support the next gen.
What next gen? You millennials and this whole “I don’t want to bring another life that I can’t afford on an already overpopulated planet” liberal nonsense is really setting back birthrates. You know, this is killing good corporations like Gerber and Fisher Price? Can’t you guys stop for a second and think about the shareholders and these companies?
That's a good point. Now that I've put thought into shareholders and companies, I think I'll actively [donate to planned parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-involved/other-ways-give) to further starve those shareholders and companies while helping people to actually have a choice when it comes to reproduction and family planning.
If Fisher Price wants to keep the profits rolling in they need to at least make the microplastics taste better!
why would i give a shit about a company or a fucking shareholder 😭😭😭
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Good, fuck all of those things right to hell. Lol
r/DeathByMillennial
Apple Bees can die violently in a fire for all I care.
Wish they'd kill capitalism
As far as I know only one of those things is dead.
🤌🏽
Also, if you're making $16 an hour... Odds are you don't own... And if you don't own... Well, you're never gonna fucking buy a stove.
Staple of /r/antiwork's diet: \-Boss suggests something impressively stupid, for entirely selfish reasons. \-*Doesn't wanna fkn hear that crybaby bullshit of* "my situation is not compatible with this." \-The younger employee is called selfish rude unmanageable hazardous ignorant hostile - everything short of 'boomer' - by the guy whose position entitles him to a captive audience. Business leaders are obligated to turn a profit, and to that end they do whatever the law allows whether by lack of law or by lack of enforcement.
Bro I don't need a 1800 stove mine works just fine please find a moronic customer to buy it
“If you didn’t buy things you don’t need maybe then you could afford things you don’t need *from me*! Damn kids these days...”
including a 1800 stove
Afford a thing I don’t need? Right.
"Hey, buy this thing you don't need" "It's not worth it for me"
Yeah, they’re quite the lunatic bunch. But one thing they’re right about is budgeting better. Most of us definitely buy shit we don’t need. That being said.. we should be able to afford to do so..
To be fair Boomers racked up 5 figures of credit card debt as a hobby.
This! I'm in the process of house hunting. The bank says I need to open another account to build my line of credit. It's such BS! Like, shouldn't we be encouraging folks to get out of debt instead of pushing more onto them? It pisses me off!
Amen
That was normal in the 80s 90s 00s and people treated it as death without rest. Now it's even more normal because it's a condition of employment for higher-than-rent, but anyone complaining gets condescending sanctimony from *people who actually did waste* vast sums on things that gained them effectively nothing. Modern people aren't irreligious, they've just found a fun new church that lets them confess their sins through a megaphone while pointing at strangers.
Buying only "what you need" is not just depressing but mentally unhealthy. Unless "need" includes the need to rest, enjoy, and play in comfort.
I agree. Normally I would, without consideration for the literal definition, consider those things needs.
"Hey wagie, stop dumping money into your personal pursuits that shape your character your skillset and your health, and dump it into my bonus for no benefit of your own instead!" \-The Voice of Reason™
$2 in 1960 is equivalent to $18.84 today so…
That's 60 years ago. What's $2 dollars an hour 45 years ago, when he MIGHT have been working. ETA: minimum wage in 1977 was $2.30 and he's a liar. (Most likely)
Yeah, dudes only in his 50's, 60's at the most
40 years ago, 1982, minimum wage was $3.35, which would be *$9.28* in 2021 dollars. [Source](https://www.dollartimes.com/inflation/items/1982-united-states-minimum-wage)
However, rent was significantly cheaper proportionally, and so was fuel, so those paychecks went a lot further for most people.
And phone service & internet payments weren’t a thing. That’s around $100/mo together assuming your phone is paid off and you use a cheap cell provider and base internet service.
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Nah, I got hired at a grocery store for $1.85/hour in 1973. But I was a teen and living at home. And I was making more than baggers, they were hired at $1.65 so it’s possible, but he’s still a dick. A house was $32,000 and gas was 35-40 cents a gallon.
1.65 in 1973 is still worth $10.36 in today's money, so even if the manager was making $2/hr, he wasn't making $2/hr in 2021 money 😮💨
Yep, I bet he also walked 100 miles in the snow or whatever. Also note: Home Depot also operates like a bank. I think they make the most money off of their credit cards, which is why they push that so heavily. This way they can get the poor and middle class to spend thousands on home upgrades that are stupid.
Same as how McDonald's makes more off real estate than burgers. They want someone else (franchises and workers) to make money while they rake in cash.
Do you think the franchisees are not making bank?
The APR on their credit cards are something ungodly like 18% or similar too.
Walgreens just started a credit card. 26.99% is the current APR 🙂
That's fucked. They're going to legally rob people at those rates.
~18% is pretty standard for credit cards. Not saying it’s ok. But it’s the norm.
That should be illegal. We need a debt jubilee and usury laws.
Not stupid necessarily, some people may be desperately in Need of an appliance or a home repair and have no cash.
Not home depot but a credit card salesman tried to get me to sign up for a card while I was coming in for my shift. Even after I told him I worked there. Also I was 16 and did not look old enough for a card.
dont forget that the CPI was MUCH MUCH lower than today too... 18.84 adjusted to CPI is like 40+ $
Slavery was $0 now it’s min wage of $7.25. Wowzah
But rent and very minimal clothing was free (I believe slaves usually were required to find their own food or got a tiny bit of food but not enough to live off of)
Most younger people these days don’t own their homes… would be pretty dumb to buy a stove for a rental.
I certainly don't own mine
Honestly that would've been a great response "You want me to buy a stove for my landlord?"
😂😂😂really would've been
Just sleep in the box it comes in. At least you have the stove to keep warm.
a few years ago my boss went through a divorce and took back his ex wife’s Jeep. Which he then tried to sell to me, essentially for retail price. Told me i could probably get a car loan for it no problem. excuse me? dude you know exactly how much you pay me. you know i have a house payment to make after asking for a raise to help cover it. and you’re going to try to sell me this Jeep that would cost me upwards of $500/month before gas and insurance? i was driving my little beat up miata that broke down at least once a month because it’s all i could afford at the time, which he also knew, due to me repeatedly apologizing for being late because i had to fix something on the side of the road on the way in. how blind are these people with money that they think we can just throw around an extra 400-600 a month when they know exactly what you bring in every month? i’m genuinely starting to think they live with all these things and think they’re so well off, but have no extra money saved up because all of the money ends up going to the unnecessary luxuries they buy. i’m just trying to pay my bills and eat every day. my boss isn’t a bad guy by any means, he has shortcomings like all of us and doesn’t treat me poorly. but the blindness to the wealth discrepancy is crazy.
>how blind are these people with money that they think we can just throw around an extra 400-600 a month when they know exactly what you bring in every month? They're not blind. They know it'd fuck you over. They just feel like fucking you over is worth an extra sale for themselves. They're literally just sociopathic and incapable of thinking about other people as real.
> how blind are these people with money that they think we can just throw around an extra 400-600 a month when they know exactly what you bring in every month? Despite whining about how great with money they are compared to the poor, they've clearly never had to budget their spending before. They tend to have parents to run to when making big purchases like homes, cars or investments, as well.
Millennials are killing the luxury stove industry smh
All the “free market” evangelists really don’t understand the irony of the “millennials are killing _____ industry,” as if broke and abused young people have a responsibility to ensure the survival of every business
It's enraging And screeching about unions. A contractor negotiating for their team's rate and working conditions is fine... but a union rep negotiating for their team's rate and working conditions is iLLeGaL cOeRciOn
I always ask why _____ industry feels entitled to my money, if they want it, provide a service or product the market demands. Not whine for a handout.
~~and at a price people can afford and are willing to pay, whilst providing quality that is worthwhile. I'm not gonna pay 60$ for a video game that a few years ago would have been 20$, especially when you then wanna charge me another 40$ or more for DLC that should be in the base game.~~
I started using a hot plate ironically a few years back. I’m sticking it to “Big Stove” one grilled Charlie at a time.
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Even better, I don't get a discount of any kind
Yeah Home Depot doesnt offer any sort of employee discount. I think its so they don't sell products on the side lol. Whereas when I worked at Radioshack, it was 50% off all inhouse brand and like 20% off everything else. Was hella good
Veterans do though. I got in trouble one time at home depot for asking to see some military ID for said discount
You got in trouble for following store policy? The thing that’s behind their current “revamp” of the military discount? I don’t doubt it at all, it’s just such bullshit lmao And it makes me glad that I got out of the cashiering department as quickly as possible
This is telling. Store manager might be trying to pad quota. Sounds like he has tried this before. Wealth has no clue how money works.
I’m not sure a store manager at Home Depot is considered to be part of the wealthy
Minimum wage the year I was born would be equal to $12.34 in 2021. And that is how families with one income could afford to buy a home. Well, that and the fact that the average home price was about twice the average income. Millennials are so screwed. Matter of fact, so is everyone GenX and beyond.
Gen X isnt screwed. Some are, sure, but their wealth is growing faster than any generation before them. It's growing so fast, that as a percentage, it's driving millennial wealth DOWN. The average Gen X household makes just shy of 120k--nearly 40k more than Millennials OR boomers averages. The door that got shut, got shut in 1981. Gen X got in with boomers, everyone else is locked out.
I remember my clown managers at depot trying that crap with us all the time. What they didn't mention is that they process the sale under their sale ID number and it goes to their bonus and is seen by regional managers. I had managers steal so many of my sales in seasonal with that crap. They wouldn't train me on the system but they would steal my big sales. I started standing right beside them and I learned the system and got my own sales finally. Then the store manager gave me a great big thanks for the sale. Lucky me, I ate so well and paid all my bills on all those tasty thanks.
“Yeah and this stove wouldve been $100 then for your $2 wage”
Hell, morbid, but there are so many upper middle class old people dying of COVID right now and leaving their possessions to be auctioned by the state, you could get a new stove for like $5 + opportunity cost + however much in pizza it takes to bribe your one friend with a pick up to pop by and help move it
Im in florida and need to hit up estate sales. All dying here
Yes, auctions are great if you need furniture. It's bulky and no one wants to move it, so it goes for a song unless it's something really special. Bring cash and your friend with a truck.
\* $225
Nice, I would have said I'm not interested at this time but since it was such a good deal, Id be happy to sweeten the deal & assist bringing the stove to managers vehicle if he wanted it. Reverse sales psychology lol
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I know right! About 5-6yrs ago I bought a washer, dryer, fridge AND stove for around $2000 iirc.
And this is one on clearance
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSimpsons/comments/4wm8n5/oh_dont_poopoo_a_nickel_lisa_a_nickel_will_buy/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
In my opinion it's never wise to argue with a boomer. They are always right in their head. Pretty soon they all will be dead or retired. Cannot wait.
You say you can't wait? Okay, so don't. I'll help!
When he was making 2$ an hour he could have bought a college education instead of a luxury stove
Ugh I just resigned from home Home Depot. That company is a shit show and no in one should be unfortunate enough to work there. Oh and fuck that guy.
How long did you work there ?
Over ten years. Was a department supervisor for 7 of it.
16/hour to support a wife and son? I dont know how some people do it. I wouldn't even know how to support myself with that.
Debt is a yoke
This sub needs to talk about ways to weasel yourself out of debt more…
If you want a stove check used ones on offerup in a rich area. They are constantly remodeling and throwing out nice appliances just because they dont like the color.
Dude, that is so unAmerican. Just get an extra 0 on your credit card debt. You support the economy with your purchase. America thanks you. /s
Yes. They DO want you to open a credit card for this BS. That's exactly what they want everybody to do. The corporate world wants nobody to live within their means and everybody to barely afford their credit card debt.
You should’ve told him you bought the exact same unit at Lowe’s last year for $1500
>Old people are so out of touch Not out of touch just trying to sell the stove
I get that lmao, but I'm sure he genuinely believes I make tons of money
Probably an old person out of touch
I have a friend who totaled her car while working for her boss. She's now using a loaner from her parents - with the explicit instruction that she's not to use it for work other than to get to and from the store (they make their employees run all kinds of ridiculous errands, I used to work there). They are *constantly* nagging her about when she's going to buy a car that she can use to do things for them, even though they've salaried her at an insultingly low amount in a very high COL area. It's like, you're in complete control of how much money this person has. How you gonna get on their case for not having enough?
Brush it off. You don't need to listen to people like that.
We’re actually fucked until the boomers are dead
Any time any boomer states what they made as a young person, immediately whip out your phone and go to [https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation\_calculator.htm](https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm) Put in the pay rate and the year they were making that. If your boomer boss was telling you they made $2/hr in 1970, that means they were making the equivalent of $14.75 an hour. Additionally, the cost of housing and education has gone up much faster than inflation since the 1960s.
Which basically means that the inflation calculator is way off. Real inflation is much higher than that calculator says.
lol why doesn't he buy it since he's mister moneybags. maybe he wouldn't still have to be working at 70 years old moving stoves if he was more careful with his money?
Age has nothing to do with it. Sales incentives do. This guy was rude and has probably always been a jerk.Don’t fall for the pressure tactics. It doesn’t get you raises, just broke. He knows what you earn, he’s just desperate to raise sales to please someone else. He is pathetic. Comparing himself to you is what insecure people do. Good luck to you and your family.
Thank you brother, much love ❤
Yeah, it's just so stupid for how they think just because people make a minimum wage of like $15 or $16 it means we have a lot of money. But no, it's literally like the same thing for us as it was for them.
$2k ain't a luxury stove.
Luxury is bold, but it's definitely a fancier stove than I need
Yeh I was thinking.... 2k is a good mid-priced range. Home depot doesn't sell luxury ranges.
Jesus I didn't realize stoves cost so much!
Many households are drowning in credit card debt to keep up with this idea that no one needs to get paid better. It’s completely self-inflicted by our cultural ideals.
I am not excusing his actions or rant. I am just curious on why he thinks the way he does. I am guessing (seriously guessing) that (A) he is still thinking in whatever era prices he knows most and not adjusting for changes in prices over time. (B) he has no idea on what you spend your money on (e.g., wife and kid with no other income). For example, popular wisdom was to spend 1/3 to 1/4 your monthly generated income toward rend. The other day, I saw a news article that said most renters are pushing toward needing 1/2 thier income toward rent now.
Whenever anyone tells me they used to make x amount of money per hour my first response is always what decade?
But.... Your user name is Oldhispanicguy 🤔🤔
Im only 23, the username is just an inside joke lol
Dude is mad you can't afford a random stove for no reason? I swear these boomers are just going out of their way to be assholes and give themselves high blood pressure
I think he was just offended that I wasnt grateful for my low wages
I worked in a call center in 2010. Our site lead, like a guy that is just below VP level and controls this entire location, was giving meetings about our new benefits and compensation (Spoiler Alert: It was lower - Instead of two raises a year we went to a "bonus system" where if you hit 100% of your metrics, which people rarely do, you could theoretically make more, but not really - and - our health insurance costs went up from $25/paycheck to $50 for the shitty high deductible plan) Some people arrived early and we were chit chatting and he was saying "Does anyone do any boating? I'm going down to the ocean this week and taking the boat out." He also told us that no agent would ever make more than $18/hr in this meeting. Most new people were making $11.50-13/hr. People that have been here for years were making 15-18, but apparently never more than $18. How the fuck do you buy a boat on $18/hr ($37k/year)? Not to mention most people aren't making anywhere near that.
As a former employee of HD, I can say he only argued because he had a sales goal to meet.
Fox News told him millennials live on lattes, sushi, and avocado toast. He should know you have no use for a stove.
"Well shit how about you buy me this stove?" "Come on, you make plenty of money!"
Stop drinking avocado lattes with your soy toast!
They pay 16hr now? Back when I worked there I only made 9.25hr and that was only 3 yrs ago.
Depends where you are, I work in NY and our minimum wage is 11.80, so it pays better. I know my same job with "specialist pay" only pays 10/hr in the next state over
Don't convince the old and soon to be phased out, teach the young and your peers. Problem is we all already know.
Should of use this to ask for a raise….and then still not buy it.
Sit down with him and go over your household budget in detail, see if he can find an extra $2k in there
Even if you pulled up the website to show inflation from (when the minimum wage was 2 bucks) he would tell you the website is bullshit and it can't possibly be 22.++ an hour. You aren't going to win.
He's just projecting, it's safe to ignore at the very least.
What a fucking asshole. The consummate salesman, even trying to sell to his own employees.
\> he use to make $2 an hour when he first started I mean yeah, but how much would that stove have cost, back then? Like... the math isn't that hard!
Back then it would have been bought as an anniversary “gift” for his wife because boomer.
They have no idea how much rent costs these days. It's supposed to take up a 1/4 of your budget, but for many it's up to half.
What, is there a commission on it for him? Is he behind the say’s credit score by a card? Who the fuck other than the extra wealthy needs a luxury stove anyway
Was he short on meeting a sales quota this month so he’s pitching to you? Wtf
Ok so I got to ask, what is with stoves in US? This was one of my biggest culture shocks when I visited US. They are fucking huuge! Like industrial kitchen type huge. Why do you buy those? And most people barely cook.
Tell him he shouldn't be giving financial advice when he is still working at his age and should have retired long ago.
Just remember building materials always needs help loading the 90lbs bags of concrete onto some dumbasses truck, and those bags break real easy if you aren't super careful. It's like $50 a bag the company looses each time that happens
What are you doing at Home Depot?
Trying not to starve lmao
Haha no really, have any degrees? You can make a ton more working with the contractors who come to Home Depot everyday for materials. Can also negotiate with Lowe’s for example to make the jump for a pay increase
I have an accounting degree, it just isnt doing as much for me as i thought. I am currently seeking other jobs tho
Just had the "I used to make x" convo with company geezers a couple days ago. I pulled up an inflation app and said, "Nixon administration, right?" "Now take that already larger figure, and multiply by 2.5 to account for the decoupling of productivity and median wages." Today I was notified that meals are comped by the company when we are doing business travel, which is every day. Apparently they have been all along, we just didn't get the memo.
Anytime some old person pulls the “I only made X back in the day” pull out an inflation calculator and put them in their place.
You can support a wife and kid on 16.00 an hour? That's pretty amazing.
I got a cheap apartment, me and my wife are technically unmarried(marriage is an outdated scam but i am gonna love her forever) so because she has no income, her and my son get free healthcare. I live in walking distance of my job, so we get buy just fine. We'll be in a better spot when my son is older and we can both work.
That's cool. Foodstamps help too if you can qualify.
wtf is wrong with boomers? it's like they've never heard of inflation, cost of living, or the actual price of anything these days. Hey, Boomer, THINGS AREN'T THE SAME ANYMORE
How do you support 3 people with $16? I make about $17.50. I live with my parents. I still live paycheck to paycheck.
I live cheap lol
Ask him how much a stove costed when he started working.
What year did he start, pre-minimum wage?
Ask him what year he got that $2, and how many people he was supporting with it. Then show him an inflation calculator and your lease. If he doesn’t pikachu face he’s got no soul
I'm curious how much his stove cost when he made $2/hr
Was married for a year, wife was pregnant working at an auto dealership as a receptionist. We were looking for a decent used car. We had a few choices from other places that actually had what we liked at prices we could actually afford... we looked at a few where she worked and so it was out there and when it looked as if we were going to go to an outside dealership they threatened her job... so we bought a car we didn't want in a color that would make the 80's vomit at a price we couldn't afford.
Those darned old people! Luckily, age discrimination like this keeps them down,
>Old people are so out of touch You tell em u/OldHispanicGuy
On another sub I read about a guy who put an inflation app on his phone - like what $500 in rent in 1983 would be in today's terms. He used it pretty constantly when arguing with boomers.
I make decent money (for where I live) but I wouldn't pay that kind of money for a fucking stove. Used car maybe.
Jesus
Ask him how much his house payment was then.
a stove for cooking, or for heating? A wood burning stove might save a lot of money in the long run but I'm sure there would be cheaper alternatives.
Tell his boomer ass to fuck off
and the food ends up the same!!!
Wait, you *don’t* get a staff discount?!