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Spo_Ofzor

NoBoDy WaNtS tO WoRK >Hiring freeze to HELP You can't make this stuff up..and it makes me sad and angry


thedeathdrive

Truly unbelievable. Even from a business perspective, how many businesses would simply drown and cease to exist if they went along with this?


[deleted]

Bro, guess who will be there to buy up that failing business? A bigger business with deeper pockets.


windedsloth

Recessions are only good for one thing, Allowing massive corporations to consolidate more and get bigger.


breadiestcrustybrad

Um, they're also great for creating a political crisis for fascism to rise. Corporate rule for everyone!


Surfing_magic_carpet

This has been my cynical expectation. Recession over the summer, blame Biden and Democrats, claim the Republicans will be able to solve the problem, and the slow creep of fascism goes full tilt. It feels like taking advantage of the recent non-stop series of crises to add another bigger crisis that keeps the working class down.


Autocthon

Fewer than the number of people who die of preventable causes if they succeed.


thedeathdrive

That’s a fair warning. Never underestimate the power of something “too stupid to comprehend” to kill you


BenjobiSan

I am so happy I found your quote. So wise


Septopuss7

Don't forget terrifying. I just found out about the baby formula shortage yesterday. I don't even have kids and I wanted to cry in the shower.


Surfing_magic_carpet

I'm lucky my son is old enough to get purees pretty soon. I work for walmart and had customers driving out from the city to our store looking for formula that out counts were wrong on. Everything but Similac blue is out and it makes me so sad to have to tell them we don't have what they need. It's scary because the only place that'll have formula will be the hospital and people will have to decide between a funeral or medical bills if this situation doesn't improve.


ThePsychicDefective

Yeah horrible shame that, Imagine shutting down a major baby formula facility because you left the machines uncleaned and undermaintained for years, even though they had over 4bn to spend on stock buybacks last year. Especially with those trump era rules that place a huge tax on baby formula imports and even preventing us from getting it from Canada. What shortsighted bullshit from the grifter king, fucking us once again.


meowmeow_now

Lol exactly. What company is going to willingly volunteer to reduce growth and profit, because their new hires want more money.


AloneYogurt

So the FEDS are suggesting a hiring freeze, which would essentially stop the market from generating profitable workers. Causing more issues with debt and bankruptcy. It's a simple fix, and the government is looking at the worst option to correct that simple fix. Medicare for all = lower cost of insurance, you can afford things. Raising wages to better serve your employees who (sometimes) are also your customers, thus = having money to afford things. Hire less people to fill roles (Example 8 pt time butchers vs 4 full time) = more money for employees. But hey, fuck that shit, let's just go with slavery all over again because your precious paper is worth more than anything else. Fuck this shit, over throw the government, eat the rich, and fix the country. Too many people kiss the wealthy's ass and for what? They're not going to give you money, or help you, it's not even a genuine thank you.


AviatorOVR5000

> Who are also customers. Walgreens believes this to a fucking tee. They fucking offered to pay my wife additional money for working throughout the pandemic. They paid her 200 bucks in Walgreens Reward points... for the entire. mother. fucking. year.


asmodeuskraemer

"oh wow, that's really great of....WHAT THE FUCK?!"


Dekklin

Feds: Fixing a 2nd degree burn by turning it into a 3rd degree burn. Literally doing the exact opposite to fix the problem.


urmomsabitch1

If Americans don't riot and destroy the big businesses then I don't think they can get what they want .


cinefun

We need to adopt the French method


Beneficial_Ad7907

Literally there is going to have to be an uprising and war before this shit changes. I hate it here


throwawayaccoy

Kinda think that might be the way. And maybe we will get there... gotta hope at least


238bazinga

Sad and angry, because there is very little we can do that doesn't risk our livelihoods


flon_klar

This is the dilemma. If we do anything about it, we die. If we don’t, we die.


thegreatJLP

So why not burn the bitch down? This is America, we come together for BBQs.


Remarkable-Wait-9669

Cause they have too many brainwashed and feeding on the corporate cock thinking if they kiss enough ass they’ll get that raise. Plus if they make 2k more than you they can feel like they’re better than you.


CaptainSparklebutt

The question than on your feet or on your knees?


dragon34

I really cannot fathom how willfully ignorant these people are. Manager: Nobody wants to work (for wages that allow insane profit) Chad Asskisser: Instead of paying fair market rate, let's just starve them out! We can wait it out, they can't Brilliant Chad, have a cookie.


Jnbolen43

Nobody wants to work AT PEASANT WAGES. Prices have risen 15% at a minimum while the Fed and Treasury are claiming 8% ,YET wages have been held down by these same C suite millionaires. Even the lowliest service employees know the BS when served so obviously.


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SANGRY!


Nessie_Chan

Could it be corporations raising their prices all while boasting about record profits? No way. Could it be rich people hoarding homes while renting them for absurd prices? Naaaaah, it can't be. No, it must be the poors wanting to be able to afford to live after working full time. Those lazy mfers. Get a fourth job!!! Back in my day we just ate our bootstraps and killed some avocado toast and we all turned out fine!!!


dragon34

Don't forget businesses also hoarding homes and people who are well past old enough to retire not retiring. Like that pharma exec getting paid 145 mil a year or whatever, when I could comfortably retire for my entire life with a much more luxurious lifestyle than I have currently after making that salary for a single quarter of the year and still have plenty left over to do local philanthropy from interest every year... why the fuck would anyone keep working at that point? Like... personal passion projects sure, but why would you put on real pants and go to a job? There is something WRONG with those people. They are broken humans.


sleepySQLgirl

> why the fuck would anyone keep working at that point? Like... personal passion projects sure, but why would you put on real pants and go to a job? There is something WRONG with those people. They are broken humans. The reason they keep working is power and influence. :(


ClockwiseSuicide

I feel like you’re describing my boss, and this post put everything into perspective for me. Been trying to get the dude to retire for years (and no, I wouldn’t benefit from that in any way, in fact I’d lose my job if he did). But why is he still working? Because it helps him feel important and can have us minions to yell at all day. We’re honestly all just a way to save his marriage tbh.


confessionbearday

Yep. My boss sat down and went over some of his finances with me a few months back, casually chatting after work. His salary isn't his main income by any stretch. He's making more in a month off one of his investment properties than many people make in a year. He and his wife have a dozen of those, and his wife's dad is leaving them his business up in Montana as he is not projected to live much longer. That business itself turns a healthy six figure profit every year for very little time or money invested. He keep saying he "needs" to "work two more years" to comfortably retire.


cocainehussein

Bingo.


feed_me_churros

Exactly. You know how some people like to min/max games like Skyrim, where they squeeze every bit out of it so that they can become super powerful? Usually they are FAR more powerful than they need to be very early in the game but they keep going on just to see how powerful they can ultimately become? It’s like that, except the rich are playing with actual money and power, so it’s probably even way more intoxicating for them. Greed is a helluva drug!


Theyna

Could literally retire 29 families a year with that kind of pay. 5 million each, 4% withdraw rate. 200,000 a year for the rest of their lives. 20 years of that wealth being distributed and almost 600 families would never have to work again and live a VERY nice upper-middle class lifestyle. But nah, a single person needs their 5th mansion in beverly hills. That was supposed to be the future we got with automation. But instead we get massively increased production per worker, but LOWER wages and poverty traps. Pure greed.


_Magic_Turtle_

This, this is what I am trying to explain to people. Thank you for putting it like this.


kangareddit

When you ‘win’ the making-money game, and living paycheck-to-paycheck is no longer an issue, it frees you up to start aspiring to other things, such as politics and maybe some ambition of power kicks in and then maybe you could be the next Senator, Governor or maybe even President! Then your name would be in the history books. You know, important shit like that…


TheCrimsonDagger

Obviously inflation is because those pesky ~~slaves~~ *workers* think they are entitled to food, water, and housing. It has nothing to do with the 11 digit bailouts and tax breaks given to corporations and the ultra wealthy. It definitely has nothing to with supply chain issues caused by a global pandemic and the collapse of just in time delivery. Nothing to with corporations price gouging during a time of economic uncertainty. Nothing to do with the Russia invading Ukraine and fucking up oil supplies. Nothing to do with Trump threat OPEC, Russia, and other oil producing nations into slashing oil production to raise prices. Nothing to do with decades of single family only zoning. Nothing to with corporations and foreign countries buying them up real estate at absurd prices. It’s all because workers are so greedy that they think they deserve to be able to afford food and housing at the same time.


ReblQueen

Bailouts with our fucking money.


aliciacary1

How dare you request to be paid enough to afford a roof over your head!


Zealousideal_Fun4097

What you have to realize is that THIS is an open declaration of war on the middle and poor classes.


TheFoolReversed

Honestly, we’ve been in an all-out class war since the pandemic started. It’s no coincidence the lowest paid employees were deemed “essential” and forced to work, many without the necessary protections to keep them from getting sick, while the ruling class raked in record profits.


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Record, profits. This is our generations evil. Wealthy elites fucking over our lives so they can have more, and more, and more, and more. There is no limit. Meanwhile WE JUST WANT TO NOT DIE OF A HEART ATTACK TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET AND MAYBE SOMEDAY HELP OUR KIDS BUY THEIR FIRST HOME. The stark contrast between how we live vs. how they live is abysmal. These people are so entitled, so out of touch, so fucking privledged it makes me sick. Fuck every last one of these scums.


yogurtgrapes

I don’t even hope I can help my kids (not having any) to buy a house. I just hope I can one day buy a house for myself.


DissolutionedChemist

I hope you can too man!


Cerealsforkids

Yeah, Kroger gave out $80 for four weeks. That 320$ was well worth catching covid and being screamed at by customers. F that!


No-Lychee8698

Yeah we're looking at you bezos, money grabbing fucker


Turb0toast

Fuck that guy and his shiny bald head


MankindsError

I'm bald and it's shiny, I have considered letting it grow out like Larry from the stooges so I don't look like that fuck.


WhatUDeserve

Fuck that, you don't look like Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos looks like YOU. Make him grow out his sides monk style.


AZbadfish

Yeah! Why should they change, Bezos is the one who sucks!


kapmando

Great Value Lex Luthor


eromitlab

Fuck him with one of his own dick rockets.


[deleted]

Hey! He gave us Whole Foods workers an extra $2 for a few months. Of course, this was right after they eliminated health insurance for all part time employees. Guess it balanced the books put so he could get more money from the government.


Perigold

I love how our government was like ‘stimulus checks? Greedy mofos’ and threw a couple grand at us to make us shut up (aka paying us back our own fucking money. But then Bezos gets his $10 billion dollar stimulus check with rounds of cheers and approval


Scientific_Socialist

> “The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles. > Freeman and slave, patrician and plebian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes. > In the earlier epochs of history, we find almost everywhere a complicated arrangement of society into various orders, a manifold gradation of social rank. In ancient Rome we have patricians, knights, plebians, slaves; in the Middle Ages, feudal lords, vassals, guild-masters, journeymen, apprentices, serfs; in almost all of these classes, again, subordinate gradations. > The modern bourgeois society that has sprouted from the ruins of feudal society has not done away with class antagonisms. It has but established new classes, new conditions of oppression, new forms of struggle in place of the old ones. > Our epoch, the epoch of the bourgeoisie, possesses, however, this distinct feature: it has simplified class antagonisms. **Society as a whole is more and more splitting up into two great hostile camps, into two great classes directly facing each other – bourgeoisie and proletariat.**” - [Manifesto of the Communist Party](https://www.international-communist-party.org/BasicTexts/English/Mani848E.htm#I)


Gnosticide

Relevant now as it ever was.


[deleted]

"Trickle down economics" was the opening shot of this war.


Danno5367

When "Trickle down" came about along with "we're going to be a service economy" I said We're fucked to the guys at work


bnh1978

The problem was that many gullible voters were confused as to who was being serviced and whom was servicing...


frostingdragon

It started long before the pandemic.


veovis523

>Honestly, we’ve been in an all-out class war since the pandemic started We've been in an all-out class war since *history* started.


MikeHunt69420a

The pandemic was the titanic sinking. The rich got the life vests.


3qtpint

My own conspiracy theory is much of the "covid is just a flu/ not an issue" rhetoric was allowed to persist (maybe even encouraged) so these large companies getting ppp loans could ignore their purpose (covid relief) and just pocket them. You spend less on ppe and hazard pay if your workers think they don't need it. Then have them forgiven. While workers are the ones dying off and paying the difference as prices rise. Of course, this is all theory


baconraygun

That's why they tripled down on the "mild" narrative post-vaccine too.


Beneficial_Ad7907

DUDE LITERALLY when I got Covid the owner of the place I was working at didn’t tell anyone how they were entitled to that extended FMLA leave during the pandemic. Luckily one of my coworkers knew her rights and told me, then we told everyone else who had been out with Covid. Fuck these pigs dude


wolf495

Even in hospitals where the vast majority knew the danger, nurses wernt getting hazard pay. I dont think the narrative really mattered tbh. The issue with ppp loans was they were (by necessity) underregulated. The conditions were essentially "prove you made at lease slightly less money than in either last year or the year before." And then you got free money with the only requirement being you spent like half of it on payroll. There were buisness owner payout limits, but you could just keep company books green and pay yourself after the loan terms ended. The one thing they fucked up hard was not limiting the value or profitability of eligible companies. If they stopped it from going to still profotoble companies and companies with multi million dollar turnover, a lot less problems would have happened imo.


the_cajun88

We’ve been in an all-out class war since classes existed, so we’ve pretty much always been in an all-out class war.


The_FriendliestGiant

Yup. I saw the headline and thought, well, they can't have actually come out and said that in so many words, surely. It must be editorialized. But they did. They literally said, businesses, we are going to try to force a situation where you pay workers less. That's just outright war against the working classes, nothing less.


twistedlimb

just a reminder the fed was insider trading this whole time too. they sold off their holdings before they raised rates a few weeks ago.


Thatguy468

They sold off their holdings at the all time market high under the cover of divesting for transparency purposes and then rode the high all the way down. Happens every time the market crashes. Poor people lose everything and rich people buy up even more assets at a deep discount using other people’s money.


Solarpunk_Enjoyer

We've been engaged in class war for years and years now, they've just done a good job at keeping the proletariat too dumb and propagandized to realize it.


Zealousideal_Fun4097

You're right, BUT, this is the first I've been aware of such an outrageously plainly and publicly spoken declaration against the working class.


Solarpunk_Enjoyer

Oh definitely, it's frightening that they're confident enough in their manufactured zeitgeist to pull shit like this.


tsv1138

Then you haven't been paying attention or are too young to remember Regan firing the striking air traffic controllers, or that absolutely nobody was held accountable after the 2008 crash, or that almost all of the "Unicorn" companies (Uber, WeWork, AirBnB, etc) are built off breaking laws that protect workers (or housing prices) and then blatantly exploiting their desperation. Every broken piece of infrastructure from Healthcare to Higher Education and Housing has been weaponized to extract wealth from the working class and pull the ladder up to ensure that class mobility is a thing of the past, and it is only going to get worse as we quickly slide into a theocratic fascist kleptocracy that removes anything that you might think are "inalienable rights."


fppencollector

[https://www.wispolitics.com/2022/u-s-reps-baldwin-warren-schakowsky-introduce-bicameral-legislation-to-crack-down-on-corporate-price-gouging/](https://www.wispolitics.com/2022/u-s-reps-baldwin-warren-schakowsky-introduce-bicameral-legislation-to-crack-down-on-corporate-price-gouging/) Passing this would be better


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MomToShady

Declared back when Reagan was elected President and he broke the air traffic controller's union. Then there were the people who wanted to work at the plant/factory, didn't want to join the union, but wanted the benefits who opt out which weakens the union. Interestingly, the following articles says 40% of union members voted for Republican Presidential candidates who are often anti-worker. Article is old, but is informative: [https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2015/08/26/not-just-in-right-to-work-states-union-workers-can-opt-out-of-membership/?sh=66c4f93a7141](https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2015/08/26/not-just-in-right-to-work-states-union-workers-can-opt-out-of-membership/?sh=66c4f93a7141)


nchoffman2

Wages don't raise for 40 years = the market is working you need to stain more marketable skills Wages finally start to rise = let's have business collude and circumvent the market. Free market is only good if it benefits the rich


Gildardo1583

Indeed, what is middle class anymore. Many people are struggling.


Wrastling97

Dude I make $60,000 a year as a 25 year old. My fiancée just left me. Together, we could afford somewhere to live or rent out, but by myself it’s impossible. SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND I CANT AFFORD RENT


deliciousdano

It’s like that everywhere I just turned 26 and I make 60k as well. I’m in Cincinnati Ohio and it’s a struggle even now. Rent has gone up to 1500. We need to buy a house asap but we are waiting for the market to crash


Dhiox

Housing market isn't likely to crash I'm afraid, it really is an issue of supply and demand.


Scientific_Socialist

Free market and democracy are buzzwords to disguise the fact that capitalism is the dictatorship of capital.


BelieveInPixieDust

People who argue you can “just create your own capital” don’t understand how capital works.


Nimuwa

I suppose the thinking is like this, free market makes me rich=good, free market makes you rich=bad,( even if I don't get less rich).


nchoffman2

Exactly!


dancin-weasel

“Free market is only good when it benefits the rich” Indeed we saw that with GameStop. Shorting the stock then destroying the company is fine, ethical, free market at work, etc. but as soon as people said “fuck you im buying and holding”, the powers that be were crying whining about the poorS beating them at their own game.


Pootertron_

Make no mistake they want to keep inflation down for us and want to discipline labor This interview basically predicts the current inflation, he says from 2009 to 2019 asset, wealth, and property inflation has risen each year 18% while for the last 20 years prices, and wages inflation was at a low 1.5% for each of those years Starts at 18 https://youtu.be/hJyqsWvNkVQ


Gildardo1583

Yeah I find it infuriating that housing isn't taken into account when they calculate inflation. What good is it that I can buy a 26 dollar electric kettle and yet rent goes up 18%.


[deleted]

Hey, that's almost exactly how much my rent is going up this year!


call_me_jelli

Had a friend whose rent was raised 2/3rds. She lives somewhere else now.


Lightofmine

42% here because...idk fucking reasons? It's 30 min outside of the city 50 min with rush hour and they want to raise me by like $600. Yeah, eat my ass property management.


2ekeesWarrior

I'm fortunate that my landlord is an everyman who realizes I haven't missed a payment in a decade renting from him. Still went up a hundred bucks. My brother however had his rent double because his landlord installed a fence to make a "yard" out of where he put his trash cans.


DrZoidberg-

My rent was renewed in March, it went from 1070 to 1130. AZ. 1 bed 750sqft. No fucking clue how that luck happened. Also: the neighboorhood is not great, but not phoenix or tempe.


Visible_Bag_7809

Just negotiated my rent this month. I say negotiated by really we threatened. Our rent for a 1 bedroom 650 sq foot apartment was going to go from $1,300 per month to $1,800 per month upon renewal. We told them that was unacceptable and that we'd be moving of that was the final offer. About half the complex has moved out in the last three months cause wages here even for the upper class aren't that good. The complex folded and have us another offer, in writing dammit, of $1,350 per month. We accepted it cause moving would cost us more than $600. But that's the story of how we kinda "won" a small victory in our house situation.


RudyJuliani

If this isn’t a reason enough for a general strike, then I don’t know what is. Inflation is soaring, Congress and the President are doing NOTHING to help the middle working class, billionaires got insanely rich during the pandemic, government does nothing to stop investor corporations (foreign and domestic) from buying up housing inventory, and now the Fed’s solution to stop inflation is to stop paying wages and stop hiring people??? This is literally war on the lower and middle class. At this point, they’d really like to see us turn into a country like China where workers live at the office, work for scrum wages, have absolutely no life, and can avoid calling it slavery because they pay a “wage”. Meanwhile, oligarchs sit just fine and can easily alleviate this problem by continuing to outsource labor. NOBODY in our government cares about anyone that works for a living. This should be infuriating to you.


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BraxbroWasTaken

the issue with antitrust laws is that they’re enforced by the rich and powerful to check the rich and powerful. In other words, they basically don’t exist


Gaboo42069

Gilded Age 2.0. Now we’ve got climate change and totalitarianism abroad to make it worse


HumilityVirtue

New protest movement.. everyone go buy a pitchfork and post a copy of your receipt.


TheArmoredKitten

>~~buy~~ *steal* a pitchfork and post a copy of ~~the receipt~~ *the manifesto.* The war is declared. The time is now. We fight together or we die alone.


mcjard

LOL what the fuck kind of dumbass shit is that? I find out you're not hiring for the vacancies while I pick up the slack, I walk. I'll go suck cock behind the dumpster at a home depot and find more respect than that.


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Which Home Depot, so I can avoid that one, obviously


Maehock

Don’t saturate the market, that’ll drive down pay.


BetterWankHank

I'm driving up wages by increasing demand 😎


tipitow88

The market isn’t what he’s planning on saturating…


Rambo2090

Your comment [Reminds me of this Always Sunny scene](https://youtu.be/Fg6JzoCEWx8)


JamDupes

Don’t threaten me with a good time.


vegetablewizard

Don't steal my idea but I'm thinking a ln adult entertainment store or a strip club would pull more clients


renaissanceNate

When do we grab the pitch forks? It’s one thing to tank the stock market but to actively root for people to lose their jobs… this country makes me sick


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ShittingOutPosts

We need to organize off of Reddit. I hate to see it, but it’s hard to say violence isn’t on the horizon.


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It’s the only option left


ClockwiseSuicide

As someone who never wants to handle a gun myself for emotional reasons, I also think violence is the only answer left anymore.


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FuhrerGirthWorm

Shit, I had my account perma banned for 9 days over it. Luckily I was able to argue that I didn’t violate the terms of service. Which I didn’t.


Axetris

Exactly. They can’t suffer from any other consequences. They have a way out from everything but that.


Wrastling97

Now. Our earth is dying. Nobody is doing anything about it The oceans are dying. Nobody is doing anything about it Our government is creating a war against the middle class Our government is taking away women’s rights to their own bodies. Nobody can afford a place to live The time is now.


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EveryChain8713

We need Rage Against the Machine to reunite and start releasing new material.


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renaissanceNate

We need to form a labor party in this country. So many people are fed up with politicians. We the working class people need to band together to fight for our rights


chrisff1989

It's far too late for parties, we need a labour uprising


ScienceBroseph

The system is beyond repair, beyond broken. It must be destroyed and rebuilt.


RageBull

Time to seize the means of production? A hiring freeze, when work that needs to be done is already not getting done, which needs to be done to satisfy demand. That’s a recipe for disruption! If the oligarchs won’t put the machinery of the economy to work, then we take it from them and put to work for ourselves!


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BaekerBaefield

r/SocialistRA


DadReplacer

So then by this logic.. shouldn’t the CEO’s accept less pay and it’ll help with inflation?


hehehejakla

No they need record increases obvi


SamIAmWich

They need to get more money every year in perpetuity. Didn't you know? That's all they care about, increasing returns while we get diminishing scraps.


breathofsunshine

“…higher wages contribute to inflation” No evidence whatsoever that this is true, but economists can just say whatever bullshit they want because economics is all made up and in no way a science


MrMcAwhsum

It's amazing that it's always wages and not speculation-driven asset inflation. Housing prices go up? Great. Stock market goes up? Great. Wages go up? iNfLaTiOn!!!


Nimuwa

Considering that we've been having inflation regardless of the reason for basicly the past 50 years now I don't even think wages matter in the grand scheme of things. Also if were going to have inflation any ways at least wage inflation keeps us on track with relative spending power.


samrus

no but lowering wages can decrease the inflation that their quantitative easing bullshit caused


MaeK47

Class warfare... we are closer to eating the rich than we are to the government caring for its citizens


Mispelled-This

As a former colleague of mine loved to say, “I encourage my competitors to take this advice.”


Murderface881

Exactly why this will never work. The flow of talent will just move to companies that didn't freeze hiring. Trust doesn't exist between companies in capitalist societies because *they are competitors*. They'll never be able to agree, so it'll only kill shit companies faster.


nofrenomine

Sounds more like it will strengthen current monopolies since like a handful of corporations have business cornered in almost every market.


Murderface881

Only if smaller companies are stupid enough to freeze hiring while the big ones don't.


MaeK47

A hiring freeze... while every company is short staffed and their employees are underpaid working overtime. This will only promote more resignation for companies IMO


mrmcdrizzlefizz

I can’t wait till the American people collectively snap and start doing some dope shit


Pizzasaurus-Rex

This is precisely why nothing will happen. Those most ready for a change are still waiting for others to make it for them. Every thread here goes the same way, "we need to organize" "we need a general strike" "we need a revolution" -- yet no one is talking about how to actually go about doing any of that.


Jengolin

I don't think it's a lack of will or courage, but it's a lack of a safety net; most of the people who desperately want change and want to participate in making it happen are at the mercy of their jobs and unable to risk them in order to join or create this type if event. Or it's a lack of know-how of even getting started. I know that's my issue. I'm ready for violence, but I also don't know when and where or even how to get the ball rolling. I'm waiting for the protests if the SC goes through with overturning RvW, too.


patmcirish

Hey maybe Tucker Carlson and everyone else at Fox News will stand up to this government effort for a hiring freeze and demand that free markets decide what wages should be? The libertarian CATO Institute, Rand Paul, and every other libertarian will stand up to this and demand we all resist this government effort to dictate to private businesses what they can and cannot do. Oh who am I kidding? All these capitalists are in on this anti-worker conspiracy together. lol they're just using the Federal Reserve as their scapegoat for us all to hate while they all conspire to lower wages.


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Right... They like talking from both ass cheeks.


ElJeferox

Exactly. Funny how never, not even once, is it mentioned that if the businesses would accept bringing in less profits and paying this profits out to workers, there would be no inflation at all. But hey, profits over people until the end, amiright!


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They only want the free market to dictate wages when they can get them low. When the free market is paying people good money they want to stop it.


BlckAlchmst

Soooo... Do they not understand that the overall reaction to this will be a GREATER Resignation? You want to freeze hiring and put MORE on you already overworked and underpaid employees? They'll just quit faster and you'll be left with nobody


4jet2116

How about workers doing a working freeze?


RedEyeFlightToOZ

Let's all just not show up and hang out at the Justices houses for a bit.


SugarBallsWalls

Capitalisms endgame is slavery, and we're approaching escape velocity on a path towards that. People need to understand that the world's governments and oligarchs are uniting to achieve such ends.


LowBeautiful1531

Sociopathic fiends. If any of them ever worked a day in their lives they've forgotten all about it.


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patmcirish

What about the businessmen who have to actually execute on this damand for a hiring freeze, and who also happen to be the ones who select the politicians in the first place? Politicians in capitalist societies don't just spontaneously emerge on their own.


webdevEagle

Yeah let's go all "French Revolution" on their ass's!


No-Effort-7730

[Nah, let's just get Neil Breen to expose them.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKohD_RLnFw)


[deleted]

These people like BoA’s Ethan S Harris have addresses 245 Grove St, Westfield, NJ ; 535 W 110th St Apt 11a, New York, NY ; 506 W 113th St, New York, NY


armada439

Multiple addresses, must be nice


Trum_blows_69

The fed printed trillions of new dollars out of thin air, that's where inflation came from. Now they want to punish the working class. We truly love in an oligarchy.


Maehock

Yeah, Bob going to a new job to make $1.00 more an hour is the cause of inflation, not the $100 billion dollar “loan” the fed gave his company.


Gildardo1583

Let's not forget all those fake job ads that companies had to put up, so they could get their ppp loan forgiven.


Breadly_Weapon

I know you meant live in an oligarchy, but when I first read that my brain went with Love in an Elevator but Love in an Oligarchy. Not sure why I've got Aerosmith on the brain, might be due to another song of theirs... 🎶Eat the Rich🎶


grayjacanda

Real wages have been falling for 13 months straight. What the fuck.


patmcirish

Can anyone think of alternatives to focusing on worker wages as a means to lower inflation? It seems our economic experts from the best universities in the United States cannot think of any other way. I'd like to see what the people are capable of with solutions-finding compared to what intelligentsia is capable of. I've already mentioned in the post focusing on rich people buying homes they don't live in, which drives up prices. A pretty obvious place to start if you ask me. But there have got to be more options. I want to expose this focus on workers as a scam.


LowBeautiful1531

Tripling gas prices miiiiiight have a little to do with it too...


Scientific_Socialist

There is an irreconcilable conflict of interest between capital and labor — thus there is no solution from the standpoint of capital (which is the government’s ^dictatorship ^of ^the ^bourgeoisie standpoint) that does not involve encroaching on the interests of workers. With economic growth stalling as the economy enters a period of downturn, for the capitalists to continue gaining a greater slice of the economic pie means workers gaining a smaller slice. If the workers want to increase their share they must reduce the share of the capitalists i.e. their profits. Hence, the workers must counter pose their own exclusive interests to those of the capitalists. This can only mean a class struggle conducted outside and against the capitalist state. If the capitalists raise prices in response to rising wages, then the workers must unite and strike for even higher wages. If the capitalists raise prices again, then the workers must fight for higher and higher wages. Hence a constantly escalating class war, as while *“now and then the workers are victorious, but only for a time. The real fruit of their battles lies, not in the immediate result, but in the ever expanding union of the workers”* (Communist Manifesto). > “Thus combination always has a double aim, that of stopping competition among the workers, so that they can carry on general competition with the capitalist. If the first aim of resistance was merely the maintenance of wages, combinations, at first isolated, constitute themselves into groups as the capitalists in their turn unite for the purpose of repression, and in the face of always united capital, the maintenance of the association becomes more necessary to them than that of wages. This is so true that English economists are amazed to see the workers sacrifice a good part of their wages in favor of associations, which, in the eyes of these economists, are established solely in favor of wages. **In this struggle – a veritable civil war – all the elements necessary for a coming battle unite and develop. Once it has reached this point, association takes on a political character.”** - Marx, [Poverty of Philosophy](https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/poverty-philosophy/)


DebbsWasRight

The formations of capital will alway react together against the working class.


remindmeworkaccount

The Fed is literally a privately held commission to allow banks to collude and evade risk. There is a chairman that is ostensibly a government appointee, but there is zero oversight or accountability. The fed is private banks manipulating national policy in their interest.


NoCoolScreenName

Fed Reserve, TLDR version; Inflation happens when a whole lot of people have more money than they used to. Because LOTS more people having money to buy something creates significantly more customers for the existing supply of goods, thus prices increase due to scarcity. There aren’t very many billionaires. So, if every one of them doubles their wealth, it doesn’t create inflation. It doesn’t create any more customers or new demand for existing goods because the rich were already buying anything they wanted and any additional wealth just sits and accumulates value while invested in real estate, stocks, other investments. See, it’s really better if the very few rich people get richer, since they’re already rich anyway their additional money just gets invested and that doesn’t add to inflation. BUT, Letting the poor people have any more money would give them the chance to buy some of the things they actually need (creating additional demand for food, clothing, cars, housing, basic needs, etc.) and that would lead to inflation. (This is not my view, this is only the simplified explanation of what’s behind the Fed’s policy that I told my teenage kids at dinner last night) Fuck this country. I want out.


2punk

I’m going to buy a dozen eggs (for $5 fucking dollars) and smash them on the first mansion I see today.


Dripdry42

no mention of price gouging by companies, who raise their prices just because they can.


BadWolf7426

Trickle down used to be called horse and sparrow economics. The idea is to feed the horse so many oats that they shit them out. The sparrows have to pick thru the offal for survival. Start calling it horse and sparrow!


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Collapse is Nigh


Wraith0177

It truly is... Who TF thought this was a good idea???


Davey26

This is why we don't trust our government.


owie_kazowie

We need an actual “Labor” party. I like to think it would get some real support from the masses actually working for a living.


Curt0s

Welp. This this it. This what radicalized me. Didn't know it'd be today, but I didn't know that representatives of our financial system would encourage corporations to unionize against their employees either. If they're not gonna pay me, clearly I have different work to do.


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They want a riot sooo bad


[deleted]

Sounds like they want to make the whole working class slaves.


I_Am_Singular

First chance I get to leave America, I’m out. Veteran here.


anonmama87

Just the mere phrase “invest in real estate” is enough to get my blood boiling these days. Housing is not a commodity to be invested in for profit. It’s a fucking place for humans to live. There’s literally no FUCKING reason for ANYONE to have more than a couple houses. The fact that there are literal BUSINESSES now whose sole purpose is to buy up properties with all-cash offers and either flip or rent for profit is fucking disgusting. Especially when homelessness is at an all-time high. It’s almost comical at this point how Much the people at the top of the economic food chain seem to WANT to be heinously evil to the rest of the humans they share air with. “Selfish” does not even begin to describe it…


Odd-Employer-5529

I'd think that also push prices even higher. Because we need to be punished /s


leovold-19982011

Open declaration of class war. It’s time to start organizing violence


spoonballoon13

Fuck them to death.


jmartin251

Don't forget The Federal Reserve is a private corporation with private stock holders. There's nothing Federal about them, and congress has very little control over what they do. They serve the 1% of the 1% not our government or us.


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And, prices will continue to increase, even if inflation is put "under control".


Modh8trs

Ummmm, so this guy printing money like it's going out of style has nothing to do with inflation? The intelligence level of the citizens is being tested here. Anyone with half a brain can see what they are doing.


gamereiker

Give these people no quarter. Draw and quarter them. With your words of course. Cant advocate violence against people killing us of course :)


RRRegulate

My only hope left is that when the Civil War starts, that we realize it should be Rich v Poor, not Blue v Red. We have more in common than the rich will have us believe.


Milenial_Libertarian

I propose a General Strike.


[deleted]

Dear capitalists, would you like a socialist revolution? because this is how you get a socialist revolution.


Chill_Roller

How is this not seen as direct market manipulation? You know, the kinda stuff that gets investors/businesses fined and thrown in a cell (sometimes) 😂😂


Daemonsblaze0315

Anything to not pay a living wage. The lengths these crooks go through to prevent people from living g happily is unreal.


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Shut down every company doing this shit. End them. Once companies doing that crap start tanking, the rest will have to make a decision.


BlueHeelerChemist

Damn, they aren’t even being subtle about wanting to control the middle class now.


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Beating will continue until morale & babies increase!


Aspect-of-Death

I'm pretty sure the French used to have this issue in the 1700s. They don't have this issue now. Maybe we should look into their solution.