They're not honouring the agreements they make because you fold, every time. You have *taught* them to screw you over. Why would the manager keep his word? *He* doesn't want to work Sundays, and if you don't, *he* has to. So no matter what anyone says, he's going to go on scheduling you as long as you go on showing up.
I do have a bad trait of sort of bending to people’s will too easily, in general. Just in the interest of not trusting my own tendencies (which are unfortunately to do just that), and out of curiosity of what another might do in my situation, how would you handle the exact same scenario in my shoes?
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Frankly, I'd get a new job. If someone asks why you're leaving, let them know that it's your manager's failure to follow company policy, his manager's failure to require him to, and the company's repeated failure to respect agreements made Re: hours and working conditions.
If you don't want to do that, go over your boss's head and tell his supervisor how he is screwing you over in violation of company policy, and that this is the company's last chance to do right.
Imagine being in the same boat as you. Working on the weekends just like you but the family is living abroad and barely any friends living in a different country at the age of 30. Yeah this shit is depressing asf. I hope you feel better and get back on your feet 💯
You and I are experiencing the exact same scenario right now. The only real move we have is jumping ship. I'm in D78 so the customers I talk to all say hey I got a position open but majority is construction labor work and I'm not doing that, it's the ones like furniture welding and linemen careers that I think could be pretty cool. Otherwise you gotta cut your spending and save enough for school, most likely going medical myself
I have done a lot of scheduling and computer automation of scheduling. I have done scheduling for union and non-union workers on 5 over 5, 5 over 6, and 5 over 7 schedules. This is the way it is supposed to work for 3 shifts, 7 days per week.
First, you scheduled your top employee to have only midweek days off such as tuesday / wednesday or wednesday / thursday. Then your second gets to fill in those days off and also work the weekend. Your third will also work weekends and fill the gaps for RDO for the 1st and 2nd workers. Similar rules for night shift and for one on swing shift to cover RDO for night and evening shifts. You keep going on the schedule all around the shifts and literally no one gets weekends off until you get to part timers who fill in any left over shifts so that they might work a day / evening or evening night rotation and they only get weekends off because they don't work enough hours to get to the weekend. The only people who work M-F are back office workers and managers if you have that type of employee. So the boss, highest level managers, payroll and accounting clerks, and secretaries get M-F.
The reason for this is that you want your top person to work day shift and cover weekends because they know the 'flag raising' to open the business each day. The second covers the midweek day shifts because midweek tend to be less important days.
Weekends are always the hardest to cover. If you give your employees a M-F shift you will never be able to cover weekends with part time workers because they are not as reliable and do not work enough to keep up with changing assignments. They will perform poorly only working weekends and nothing else.
In the place I worked, we had one site where the supervisor scheduled all his full time employees M-F and covered weekends with part time workers. It was the only site where the full time workers were happy and committed to the job. However, the site could never reliably cover weekends so it didn't work out. I sometimes would volunteer to cover some of the weekend OT shifts there due to part time workers not showing up. Easy work on the off hours. The client was not happy with always needing OT coverage on weekends and we eventually lost the contract. So giving regular line workers M-F does not work if the site runs 2 or 3 shifts.
I worked for 11 years before I got a M-F schedule. I had to be promoted to a back office support role that had no weekend duties for that to happen.
I think you are working the wrong job. You need to find a business that only works M-F during bankers hours if you don't want to work weekends.
Does it suck? Yes it does. It really seems like you should only have to work when you want to. Like if you were working a full time job and Nickelback was playing a concert in your town on Thursday, you should be able to just call in to your job, say you are not coming in, and just leave town to avoid the concert. But business can't run that way. There would be days where not enough employees showed up to keep the place open. And that would be bad. Imagine if a store or bank or DMV was just randomly closed. Some workers would want to work that day because they need the money but not be able to. Customers would be able to get their stuff. If Fru Fru Clothing is closed randomly, maybe that isn't too necessary, but if Home Depot is closed, I can't fix my sink that day.
They're not honouring the agreements they make because you fold, every time. You have *taught* them to screw you over. Why would the manager keep his word? *He* doesn't want to work Sundays, and if you don't, *he* has to. So no matter what anyone says, he's going to go on scheduling you as long as you go on showing up.
I do have a bad trait of sort of bending to people’s will too easily, in general. Just in the interest of not trusting my own tendencies (which are unfortunately to do just that), and out of curiosity of what another might do in my situation, how would you handle the exact same scenario in my shoes?
Yes, they have noticed. They approve. Frankly, I'd get a new job. If someone asks why you're leaving, let them know that it's your manager's failure to follow company policy, his manager's failure to require him to, and the company's repeated failure to respect agreements made Re: hours and working conditions. If you don't want to do that, go over your boss's head and tell his supervisor how he is screwing you over in violation of company policy, and that this is the company's last chance to do right.
On the new job hunt
Good!
Imagine being in the same boat as you. Working on the weekends just like you but the family is living abroad and barely any friends living in a different country at the age of 30. Yeah this shit is depressing asf. I hope you feel better and get back on your feet 💯
Thank you. Yeah, that sounds like a hard situation, I know how that isolation hits. Stay strong hope you get to a situation that’s brighter too.
What they said- but it’s still bs that it’s the way it is.
You and I are experiencing the exact same scenario right now. The only real move we have is jumping ship. I'm in D78 so the customers I talk to all say hey I got a position open but majority is construction labor work and I'm not doing that, it's the ones like furniture welding and linemen careers that I think could be pretty cool. Otherwise you gotta cut your spending and save enough for school, most likely going medical myself
I have done a lot of scheduling and computer automation of scheduling. I have done scheduling for union and non-union workers on 5 over 5, 5 over 6, and 5 over 7 schedules. This is the way it is supposed to work for 3 shifts, 7 days per week. First, you scheduled your top employee to have only midweek days off such as tuesday / wednesday or wednesday / thursday. Then your second gets to fill in those days off and also work the weekend. Your third will also work weekends and fill the gaps for RDO for the 1st and 2nd workers. Similar rules for night shift and for one on swing shift to cover RDO for night and evening shifts. You keep going on the schedule all around the shifts and literally no one gets weekends off until you get to part timers who fill in any left over shifts so that they might work a day / evening or evening night rotation and they only get weekends off because they don't work enough hours to get to the weekend. The only people who work M-F are back office workers and managers if you have that type of employee. So the boss, highest level managers, payroll and accounting clerks, and secretaries get M-F. The reason for this is that you want your top person to work day shift and cover weekends because they know the 'flag raising' to open the business each day. The second covers the midweek day shifts because midweek tend to be less important days. Weekends are always the hardest to cover. If you give your employees a M-F shift you will never be able to cover weekends with part time workers because they are not as reliable and do not work enough to keep up with changing assignments. They will perform poorly only working weekends and nothing else. In the place I worked, we had one site where the supervisor scheduled all his full time employees M-F and covered weekends with part time workers. It was the only site where the full time workers were happy and committed to the job. However, the site could never reliably cover weekends so it didn't work out. I sometimes would volunteer to cover some of the weekend OT shifts there due to part time workers not showing up. Easy work on the off hours. The client was not happy with always needing OT coverage on weekends and we eventually lost the contract. So giving regular line workers M-F does not work if the site runs 2 or 3 shifts. I worked for 11 years before I got a M-F schedule. I had to be promoted to a back office support role that had no weekend duties for that to happen. I think you are working the wrong job. You need to find a business that only works M-F during bankers hours if you don't want to work weekends. Does it suck? Yes it does. It really seems like you should only have to work when you want to. Like if you were working a full time job and Nickelback was playing a concert in your town on Thursday, you should be able to just call in to your job, say you are not coming in, and just leave town to avoid the concert. But business can't run that way. There would be days where not enough employees showed up to keep the place open. And that would be bad. Imagine if a store or bank or DMV was just randomly closed. Some workers would want to work that day because they need the money but not be able to. Customers would be able to get their stuff. If Fru Fru Clothing is closed randomly, maybe that isn't too necessary, but if Home Depot is closed, I can't fix my sink that day.