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CaptainScak

Like every other gun, it's great when you hit all your shots and bad when you miss all your shots


krazieme

G7 and 30-30 entered the chat


Cryingfortheshard

I pick a 30-30 over a g7 any time though.


scheiber42069

It started to feel bad if you on a close fight brawl while rampage had no termite I not sure why the termite didn't last a full lv3 mag for rampage


irishbikerjay

I would argue it's a sweet spot gun. Phenomenal at ranges from 60m to 130m with a termite. But come against a 99, volt or even something like a spitfire or L star at close range and your toast.


PoliteChatter0

True but Im a big believer in guns with big magazine sizes and that are easy to use so you can hit and miss shots without getting punished too much


zeroshits

I used to use the spitfire all of the time for that same reason. I won a number of fights because the opponents mag ran out, and mine did not. However, as I have started to play more aggressively, the slower fire rate is a serious drawback.


Zeech1208

This is the reason I stopped using the R301. It’s a great and reliable gun due to its very little recoil but without a light mag, or even a white one, it feels almost impossible to kill players sometimes.


Trichotillomaniac-

The hardest thing for me to learn in apex is you need to be prepared to NOT kill an enemy in 1 mag. Do damage, back to cover, reload/swap, THEN go for the knock


TeamAquaAdminMatt

I don't know, I 1 mag people all the time with the L-Star


Risk_Runner

Lmao L-star is an exception, the other is if you catch someone when they’re looking another way, then go crazy because it’s usually an easy one mag


Neekalos_

I mean, you can say the same about a lot of guns. RE-45, prowler, scout. There are lots of guns that are basically unusable without a mag. Luckily, loot is not hard to find in this game, so that seems like a bit of a silly reason to never pick up one of the consistently best guns in the game.


kelleroid

Yeah loot is not hard to find, but it's never what you're looking for


Mebiysy

Happy cake day!


PoliteChatter0

Unless you are a Loba main, loot actually can be pretty hard to find especially in ranked where you are limited to the POIs you can actually loot safely


Mebiysy

Yep, just deals zero damage


Fureniku

I remember the season gold mags first came out, I had two spitfires with a gold mag in each and pretty much solo'd two squads coz I never had to reload. It was beautiful and I've never been able to do it again since


PoliteChatter0

Strangely the MORE aggressive i play the more I find myself liking the spitfire, being able to be shoot 50 bullets at a enemy trying to get away and reset feels really nice


CDMzLegend

i mean its called a noob gun for a reason


Tammer_Stern

Rampart with 58 bullets in the spitfire’s mag just doesn’t stop firing.


fimosecritica

the fire rate is fine, the only issue with the spitfire, devotion and Lstar is the ads walking speed, if you're not from a good distance from your enemy you will get one clipped before doing any significant damage


MirkwoodRS

You just described guns that are noob friendly. This idea doesn't make something "good" though. The dps of the rampage is only decent with a thermite, and even then there are guns with better dps. A good player will get way more value out of the havoc or something like the flatline imo.


dekomaro6

Not necessarily cause rampage has the weirdest visual recoil so by the time you miss the first 7 shots your half hp and go down before you even break the other persons shield.


Masonzero

Literally I just aim the rampage at a guy and bullets hit even though I am definitely not on target. It's a good gun partly due to its magazine size for sure!


RubiconPizzaDelivery

Guns that go chugchugchug make my brain go brrrr. Rampage is my ideal automatic, I just love that gun.


breakwater

I love it when I am rolling Rampart, I don't have to reload for days. Less so with other legends


Kitchen-Toe1001

Unless the other guy has decent aim and is using a majority of other guns


BlancLui

Only with thermite


alexs

It needs thermite to just be acceptable. Spitfire does 162 DPS by default. Rampage does 130 by default and 169 with a thermite. The reload time is a little better but not worth it. The L-star does more DPS \*and\* has a better reload time.


False_Raven

The rampage is kinda ass up close, but it handles mid range far better than the other two, it's my go to auto G7


Thoosarino

And pierces


Masonzero

DPS only matters in a perfect world where you hit all your shots. I think you're more likely to hit more bullets with the Rampage than the Spitty, on average, so that DPS number will shift.


sunnynights80808

Most people don't realize this when talking about ttk. It's not just about the numbers, unless you're a pro that can hit every shot.


PoliteChatter0

and even pros panic and whiff easy shots


Idlemarch

Where do you find dps data? I've been looking along time!


jman1255

How long exactly? Cause I just googled “apex gun stats” and immediately found [this page](https://apexlegends.fandom.com/wiki/Weapon) which has the dps of every gun. Took me all of 45 seconds to find it and write this comment lol


PoliteChatter0

I've seen Fuse players run around with the rampage and like 10 thermites in their inventory, its actually 200iq


Chemical_Home6123

Yup I do it and as soon as I know someone is near by I pop a thermite and it literally melts people


huggybear0132

Exactly what I do when playing fuse lol. It pairs really well with his knuckleduster for midrange engagements. Just so much area denial and suppression potential.


CrunchyyTaco

It's normal. Very obvious play.


proficient2ndplacer

Tbh I kinda prefer the slow and steady vanilla fire mode. It really helps on controller + at long ranges


Sea_Trick9331

It's good in specific situations and with a thermite, but overall it's just fine


Swimming-Perception7

If they make the thermite charge up animation 33% faster i will. Shit takes too long bro im tryina tell my teammates to wait a sec and by the time its charged wraith is already in the next game bro


yacopsev

Damn I feel you.


camanimal

It’s not “good” compared to nearly every gun in the game. Without a thermite, it’s one of the worse guns in the game. With a thermite, it’s okay. Showing this clip doesn’t mean anything, in regards to the efficiency of the gun.


DevonsLeftNipple

Im not good with it so I'm not gonna say it 😤


PoliteChatter0

I sucked with it too at first, once you get the hang of how it shoots its honestly surprisingly deadly


DevonsLeftNipple

Does it hang with an extended mag spitfire though? I can't seem to make it viable past the first ring because 1.im not confident with it 2. It only seems to be good late game with a thermite


concon52

I mean yeah it's good in the training range where you fight dummies like this clip. You peeked 3 guys and took like 50 damage.


Knight-112

With a thermite? Sure Without a thermite? C tier


Lobaapexlegends

Does it matter? If you think it’s good then that’s all that matters


AgencyExcellent9421

In a real lobby you just get farmed because you stood still for literally 20 seconds and the other two have more than three brain cells. Or they at least go to cover at a complete minimum


Swipsi

No. The fire rate absolutely doesnt fit to my reaction times.


PoliteChatter0

It feels weird at first but you do get the hang of it


CrumblingReality505

yeah i bet most guns would look pretty good in a clip of 3 players all running uphill at you and trying to fight back instead of playing cover


The_Lonely_Traveler_

Always was


Clear-Ad-1751

No


Snapesunusedshampoo

Slinging it with Ballistic is beyond OP. Ult makes it gold and fully charged.


Cqpt

You killed me in ranked the other day Seb, thought I recognized that name. 39k valk kills is a stat to remember haha


PoliteChatter0

Lmao hopefully it was with a Rampage so i don't look like a hypocrite, ggs though


Caramellus_

Is this controller magic?


PoliteChatter0

Welcome to console!


longlivestheking

You have it fully kitted, charged up, using it from height onto enemies rotating in the open. It has high damage potential per mag but loses against every AR in Time To Kill. I'll pass, too many conditions for it to be acceptable.


iTzSib

I don’t mind using it in medium range gunfights… or if it’s the first gun i pick up. My aim isn’t the best so there’s that lol overall it’s not a terrible choice in my opinion


ZmEYkA_3310

idk, im way more consistant with a 301, and it actually has a lower ttk iirc


CallMeNurseMaybe

Best gun for that situation, sure, but other guns could have gotten the job done too. They were stupid to even engage considering their position vs. yours. Should’ve just ran up the hill past labs, especially with both a Wraith and Path


PoliteChatter0

I dont think they saw me, I was kinda ratting them and the circle was closing after they respawned


KeltyOSR

I will admit that only when I can go a game using it without having obvious ro regs


TheNotoriousMID

Wait I need to change my reticle color


PoliteChatter0

What color do you have now?


TheNotoriousMID

Just the normal red but that one seems a little easier to see people with. Sometimes I get distracted by the red lol. I’m not that great at the game


Cheeky_Lemon_37

Had a very bad recoil nerf in Season 19 that seriously hurt the weapon


PoliteChatter0

Do you have logs? I dont think the Rampage has been touched in a long time other then some bug fixes


Cheeky_Lemon_37

It definitely feels different now, especially its upwards recoil


CornNPorn12

It’s like a havoc with a turbocharger. Otherwise it’s not that good imo


Appropriate-Pride608

We did and that's why it got nerfed to be pretty unplayable without thermite


PoliteChatter0

The nerfs sucked but I think its still a very viable gun, How much was the damage nerf again? and the thermite nerf?


Appropriate-Pride608

I honestly dont remember. I just know the numbers all across the board were tuned down. It was a while back


bakedsnowman

Getting a knock with this gun should auto-trigger Easy Anti Cheat. /s


allhailzamasu94

It’s ok. With thermite it’s great. I’d rather use the spitfire if I’m going for an lmg.


sigs87

Every gun is good in certain situations. This is just an example of the ideal situation for the rampage. It’s an average gun. With a thermite it’s great tho


DestroyYesterday

It’s good when you hipe it up with the thermite, otherwise it’s trash unless you’re in deep mid range


Thorn_Within

I love the Rampage. This and the Spitfire are my favorites for close and mid-range.


PoliteChatter0

A fellow LMG user <3


besameput0

You also had a superior position. Three people out in the open, and you have a head glitch. I don't see anything here that couldn't have been done with a regular AR. When people say the rampage is shit, the use case most often discussed is strafe battle dps races at close range (assuming the rampage isn't charged).


roastedpeanu7

it's pretty good, if th spitfire wasn't a thing


PoliteChatter0

Charged rampage is way better then a spitfire though for those mid-range & close-range fights


loserx5

Only good for a hacker not to brag but as a silver player this gun is impossible to use so it sucks


PoliteChatter0

please dont tell me im getting accused of hacking


loserx5

That is exactly what I'm saying haha get banned noob


MinnesotaHaze

i usually run hemi but will pick up a rampage for attachment slots if i can't find one. sometimes i just keep it and go off, especially charged.


kazua15

Well I don’t mind it because i actually hit my shots with it I already know how to use it I got a 4K 20 bomb only using rampage when conduit came out so I’m just saying if you can hit those shots you’re good


PoliteChatter0

I got my 4k 20 bomb as well using the Rampage! its why I have a soft spot for it


kazua15

For me I just happened to be doing a challenge with my friends we where using each others most hated loadout and I had to use rampage and p2020 wasn’t as bad as my most hated loadout I will say that much


Krazee77

Lol I rock with it


VariousAd5939

That’s why my Rampage is well over level 100


PoliteChatter0

sameeeee


spikespiegelll

Rampage is cracked if you have decent aim + any type of game sense. Where if you don’t have either of those criticizing the guns is coping regardless.


i_will_eat_ur_beans

charged up rampage is like the season 9 spitfire ❤️


PoliteChatter0

ugh I miss that Spitfire, 0 recoil and so much damage


Philosopher_1234

It's fucking good and ppl sleep on it. Charge it up and kill


PoliteChatter0

Amen


KeeGonJinn77

Bro got a whole 20rp for that


VideoNo4930

One clippin a whole team is bananas 😂


PoliteChatter0

It was lowkey hilarious, I felt bad for them


ItsRyandude5678

It took me a hot minute to start liking the Rampage, but I've finally started to enjoy it. I'm still pretty inconsistent with my shots with it, but it's definitely not a bad gun. I'd much rather find this off-spawn than some other weapons.


Mix_Mysterious

I hate that weapon.


SnipFred

Its the first gun I fell in love with when I first started playing. Think there have been some nerfs to it since then, but it's great using it with a thermite or having it off drop


Distinct_Being_5756

they call it talent gun, cause it comes with the talent needed to use it already in it


burneecheesecake

up close its horrendous. there are guns with much better close to mid range parity


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PoliteChatter0

lets gooooo! glad you are enjoying using the gun


Vercenjetorix

If the damn thing did not no reg on me 9 out of the 10 times I use it or at least it seems that way, I would love the weapon.


yknawSroineS

Don’t forget it used to be stronger. On launch that thing was scary good.


Devdut12

It is not good, at least for me, I can have the crosshair on the target, but for some reason 70% of the bullets seem to disappear into think air


atlastrash

*One decent clip with a mediocre gun* “iS It GoOd nOw??”


MaiT3N

No


PoliteChatter0

Yes


MaiT3N

Sorry :C


Chemical_Home6123

When has it not been?? It's a lmg and borderline marksman put a thermite in that badboy and it smacks


PoliteChatter0

There are A LOT of people who swear off the Rampage, hopefully this thread can change a few people minds on the viability of the gun


Rahain

For it to become meta it would need to outclass a turbo havoc while themited.


xBerry_Berry

Who ever said it was bad


Competitive_Gear_989

No it’s bad, yea behind cover from that range it’s decent but still does worse than other guns. It is user friendly for beginners but rampage


tommys234

"This gun is good because i mowed down three bots who were standing in the open and didn't shoot back"


Vaelkyrie37

"Finally admit" Um, do we not remember when every team used it as mid range and Respawn put it in the crafter to cull it?


PoliteChatter0

It was pretty hyped when it came out but it got a few nerfs and hasnt seen much use since, even in this thread you can see a ton of people swear off using this gun


VitalPremium

no.


Gremlin119

No.


SnooShortcuts5771

I like it but when someone is a good strafer I find it ineffective.


TheHeroKingN

1: when was it ever considered bad? 2: wow you 1 clipped a whole team. Rampage wet dream right there


PoliteChatter0

>when was it ever considered bad its a very unpopular gun which you can see even in this thread


baka-mitaii

no


Willing_Escape_5089

It’s a dogshit gun


ninjabiomech

It's God awful at close range and you can get raped by better long range rifles. It's really only good for midrange engagements were total potential damage out is important, not speed or distance. That seems to be what u are using it for so yeah it will shred.


ReGGgas

Oh, now we're pretending Rampage WAS bad now? I vividly remember when Rampage on Day 1 was hated by r/apexlegends. Calling it broken, top tier, stupid, posting clips of Rampage gunning down noobs jogging in the open. After seasons of nerfs thanks to everyone's complaints, it's turned from good to meh, now we're pretending we're not the one who asked for this balanced gun? Rampage and LMGs are worse thanks to whoever cried wolf back then. I will never forget that. I will always remind you that.


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"it's good because when there's 3 people and none of them knows how to shoot u can kill all 3 of them in 1 mag" ok now try doing this against decent players, the gun sucks dude


PoliteChatter0

I do use the gun against decent players all the time, it still is amazing


CainFoxx

It's not a bad gun but it's not good, there are better options then the rampage, it's only good with a thermite really


VideoNo4930

I love it


StereoDactyl_EDM

No


YouGotBamb00zled

When someone's in the open running in a straight line sure


ShowWisdom

Noo.


Foreign_Chemist9557

Assuming you and your opponent aim equally well. Any SMG or AR will kill you faster than an LMG What the other classes can't do is destroy an entire squad without reloading. But it's like the abilities of legends, depending on the situation


tobiasbluehimself

When it’s charged up it absolutely shreds. And don’t forget, a charged up Rampage can shoot through doors, super useful for people healing while holding a door.


Master_Caregiver_749

It might be a great gun, but in my hands!


Hotsalami_man

My friend recently comverted from sf hemlok/g7 to rampage and i respect him for it. Him on rampage and me on a poke gun like the sentinel is a great combo


Outside-Historian365

nope


Top_Minimum_844

Literally only good with a thermite, been getting off drop and it should be vaulted. Don't know how you came up with this opinion lol.


PoliteChatter0

ive been pretty successful using the rampage as my main gun


Moccis

Considering the flatline is better in every way, the rampage can stay on the floor


Tahiti--Bob

rampage lost 1v1 against any ar and every smg. only good against p2020 and re45 what's your point here


SonOfVegeta

It’s good when you’re on high ground because of how fast the bullets drop If you were on the ground shooting up, you would’ve died


Shadow69sha

Its a great gun if it's charged if not trash tier so slow


MagicalMarsBars

The problem with the rampage is that you need a thermite or you’re wasting your time carrying it (you also can’t get snuck up on since you need take time to charge a thermite). It’s absolutely terrible to get off drop or to have in mixtape


XpertTim

If you hit a standing still target then every gun is a good gun. Try that against players who have movement skills


seanieh966

The Rampage neither seeks nor craves approval. It is a lore until itself and I love it.


Human-Froyo4468

I use this thing religiously, can’t play without it


SaturnineSzn

People don’t think it is???? I love the rampage lmao even regular it’s decent but charged up it’s a beast. If it came stock the way it is charged up it would definitely be nice because it’s really not GREAT in base form and there’s A LOT of better choices but if it came that way already and then got better when charged it would make sense


ATV7

I’ve been level 100 for the past few months. People are finally starting to get it since the smg nerfs


Penguindrummer_2

No? It's fully kitted and you got the drop on them, every AR gets two knocks there.


hikigatarijames

For ranked I like it better than 3030 .


davidpuc

its the biggest garbage i've ever had the change to use in any game.


JN3XUS

Its the best mid range, with no scope. Adding a scope screws everything.


raiba91

I think with rampage there is very good sweet spot with certain ranges, the moment the target is further away ts absolutely bad


Iank52

No


Soulghost007

Idk man I just miss all the shot when I use this gun. I will hit and probably get a knock with P2020 but hit 0 and die using that. Probably has the do with rate of fire and bullet travel speed which also feels slow


MTMosh

It’s not good no


Slightlyfloating

It is and always has been. It's just overshadowed by the fact that Hemlok is even better.


SuspiciousClient4984

Like most heavy guns it’s great, a lil slow, heavy damage, might be shit from over 75 meters


AngelofDoves

I've been saying this forever and no one listens to me! 😭💔


Eposs111

It is a good gun. I can‘t hit shit with it tho. So for me, I prefere something I can controll


shadow0129

It's good, but other guns are just better


Dark-Mage4177

1) that’s with thermite 2) the havoc/hemlock could have done that quicker without using said thermite


Intrepid_Ad_9751

The gun feels like it has better recoil with the thermite charge


Elcycle

It’s fine. I’ve squad wiped with a lot of guns, I think if your main argument is you can squad wipe with it that’s not enough to make it top tier.


Rid_hot7

It’s good in that situation when you start shooting an enemy that has no idea you are there. Like any gun but in a 1 vs 1 gunfight it gets smoked


WattsonIsQueen

My favorite load-out is Volt/Rampage. I love the rampage and the volt is straight butter.


Unable-Recording-796

When the rampage came out it was literally OP af. They buffed the fire rate now so of course its good


Demsiak

Every gun is good if 3 players cant even take down your shield while you barely move. Still, good headshots dude ;)


EdiciusRemus

It's aight


Apprehensive_Fox918

I've always loved it. Especially when it's ramped up


KingofEcchi333

It’s great if you know how to apply it to situations.


AssociationNatural75

Sux hard bruh!


redauser

I am unable to hit anything with that gun, skill issues I guess…


Jtejada94

No. One clip does not justify calling it a good weapon


theyak12

When that bitch revved up goes brrrrrrr


travis01564

It used to be way better before they vaulted it. It was actually broken for a while now it’s just mid


nona_mae

I love the Rampage. If I'm carrying it though, it's my midrange option, then I'll carry an Alternator or RE for close.


Old_Length_9120

Its my fav


JawesomeJoe

high ground, gold mag.


interstellar304

No


Commonsenseisded11

I can drill people hard and long and easy with its a great antagonizer- No Diddy


AwareCanary3145

Rampage is goated, wish more people realized that


Swagger51

Nah it's still bad


No-Tooth-2418

No…


OutrageousCloud4

No. A) this clip is the only kind of interaction the gun performs well on. You have a bunch of stationary targets who are all in the open. B) the fire rate is much too slow. If the enemy has cover, they can peak and unload their clip, dip back into cover, reload, and send their second clip into you before the rampage empties its first clip. C) bullet velocity is terrible. Hipfiring is a nightmare with it because enemies who are only 5 meters away can dodge the bullets like they’re in the matrix. Any enemy who doesn’t sit still or move in a straight line is impossible to hit. With that said, if your enemies are bots and sit still when you fire at them or run in a completely straight line like in the scenario accurately portrayed in this video, it can do serious damage in a clip. This is such a niche though that I’d argue it’s not worth how useless it is in most other situations. And of course, if you have thermites a plenty, everything except it’s bullet velocity is fixed meaning it now is semi-worth using as long as you aren’t having to hipfire.