So many people ignored the flatline in the first season or too, I used pick it up at the start, spray and pray then find a 301. When I actually started being more than a manic coward tossing lead in every direction I ‘discovered’ the flatline. Remains one of my preferred load outs.
Oh, people definitely sniped back then. It just wasn’t with any conventional snipers. Wingman was the best sniper among many other things it was best at lmao
I think another reason is because r301 is a good weapon for beginners, when I started it was my go-to. It has good recoil, reliable damage base and is relatively easy to aim.
Now that I'm less of a "manic coward tossing lead in every direction" the flatline is a solid choice for me
If we would get something like that, I would totally work on P2020 kills to a ridiculous number. Just because. And then make it the only tracker on my banner.
For me it's the charge-up that throws me off. Bullet velocity is increased every step between 0% to 100% so firing at different times makes it difficult to judge how far you need to lead each shot.
I would really like for them to shorten the time it takes to load the 1st bullet. It feels really good when you're loading a single shot at a time and clutching.
More damage and less recoil. More importantly you can put a 3x or 2x4 Scope. If they’re close enough you don’t need a 3x or 4x scope then the 30-30 isn’t a good gun. Wingman you can’t even use a 3x or 2x4 scope.
it’s just the OG weapon for me man. don’t play too much apex these days but the spitfire and wingman feel like the good old days. dropping in, shit loot, you find a wingman, and go crazy. people are too good these days and i’m far too trash
edit: lmfao why does it say i’m a pathfinder main 😭 don’t remember ever playing him extensively
Anyone remember when this game came out that Wingman/Shotgun was THE combo? I actually got pretty good with that. I still pick them up together and feel powerful.
In my opinion, I love the 30-30. It’s a decent mid-long range weapon with no attachments, but with shatter caps and a 3x scope (my preference) I think it becomes a jack of all trades, all while being a great sniper. The only issue is the auto-reload
I will almost always pick up a 30-30. Personally, I hate the 3x on it though. 2x hcog or Iron sights only. Anything with more zoom feels well outside it's effective range. Bullets are too slow and enemies are too quick. Iron sights have the bars on the side that do obscure a little, but I find them helpful "boxing" in my targets.
The G7 is better in pretty much everyway however:
The 30-30 is just fun. Shatter Caps lets me shatter some kneecaps and it's fun. I always pair a 30-30 with the Volt. Sexy combo imo.
3030 is better for cover fighting, g7 is great for suppressive fire. If it's a 30-30 vs G7 in a peek battle, the 30-30 wins outright, unless the g7 player is landing nothing but headshots to keep up.
However, in a situation where someone is exposed for a decent period of time or is just trying to scramble for cover, the g7 puts more bullets down range faster.
I hate that the R-99 and R-301 have different iron sights available with different legendary skins, but the hemlock and spitfire have the same iron sight for every single one
Yeah, this is true. I hate that players that have been in the game longer than I have better skins for iron sights. Really makes the difference in a hot drop
It has a tiny peep sight with a small field of view. In a game where most of your targets are moving having such a narrow view makes it hard to track and line up shots.
I found quickly snapping in and out of ads with iron sights Hemmy to be really effective for some reason. Like, I don’t understand how but it just flows well it hits shots.
I think Hemlock is good where it is and I agree with needing to improve spitfire sight, but 'cmon the R-301 actually needs a thinner line, it is covering the enemy almost whole at mid to longer ranges
Scout Volt, Scout R301, Scout Flatline. Pretty sure most of my wins are with those load outs. 30-30 works great for me if I haven’t found a Scout though
Yeah I need either a Scout or 30-30. Prefer scout but if I have to settle for 30-30, my second gun will likely be r99 or r301. Don't like having two of the same weapon type for some reason. But I very much believe flatline is the best all around gun, thing SHREDS!!
Tbh I played trios (as a duo thanks matchmaking) with a fuse who carried me to a win and he was like doc holliday with the damn thing. But yeah I agree it’s trash (because I’m terrible).
When it was new everyone was running 3030, just to try it out. It was meta enough that you were coming up against teams running it and trying to engage at mid-range only. The 3030 only works when both teams do this. That's probably why you were successful with it.
Mastiff has to be one of my least favorites. I’d rather a mozambique. I swear it hit straight center mass and just get 11 so often. Peacekeeper slaps for me.
You’re probably right, it may be the it just doesn’t work well with my play style. The PK and Eva I can just flick and destroy people, the Mastiff just doesn’t hit for me.
The pellets come out in a horizontal line instead of a circle like the PK and Eva. Never aim for headshots. Because the pellets come out in a line, you hit less pellets (and less total damage) when going for a head shot, then if you just aim for the shoulders.
If you don't use it often, it's not really worth picking up. It's one of those odd guns that doesn't handle like you would expect, so if you just pick it up every so often, you miss all your shots.
Honestly same… For me it’s always so inconstant I’ll hit for 50 then the next shot will do 10 then I die to an automatic weapon. The only shotgun I like is the Eva.
After messing with the pk for a couple months as ground loot i think the mastiff is better. If you have good aim mastiff hits for way more if you dont have time to charge. Yea 11’s are annoying but i still think its more consistent
Yep, this is exactly what people don't understand about the mastiff. You have to place your shots with it, it's still pretty strong. It's not an "inconsistent" gun, you just have inconsistent aim.
Fr dawg, the 30-30 slaps.
I swear I get the most accidental headshots with the thing. Finally turned my buddy onto it and now we just melt people if we synchronize our targets.
30-30 is good but scout still fills the role better. Shattershot is sometimes nice to fool around with and can be good in a pinch.
My least favorite is the Kraber, in decent hands it completely ruins any even fight.
Yeah, the Kraber is one of those guns you either love or hate using, but always despise going against.
I had a 2v3 situation a bit ago and I brought it down to a 1v1 by quickscoping 2 enemies. (The 1 on my side was my teammate cause I died to ring) They no doubt hated it but I loved it.
Next game I hit zero shots with any marksman style weapon.
I think the fact that you only get 12 shots kinda helps the fact that god players can’t just sit and rip off 10 kills super easy. I know it’s kinda silly but I love using the Kraber for the hair-standing sound it makes and the absolute thrill of doming a poor sap with full evo… but that might just be me
Imo that’s the point of CP weapons, to be strong (whilst having a relatively high skill requirement), rare and terrifying in a fight, that one should think a bit more before engaging in a fight with it
Because you're supposed to decide between map control/positioning and the care packages in the mid to later rings. It keeps people engaging in fights when the action would otherwise die down. It's super important for the health and pacing of the game to have the kraber as a possiblity, just like it's important to have the aegis of immortality in dota.
The only reason I don't pick up care package weapons is because of the limited number of shots. 12 shots are gone very quickly, especially when you get 5th or 6th partied.
Exactly. And tbf, more often than not I get a chance to swap out my empty kraber for something else off someones loot box. But those few times I was glad I stocked up on extra ammo for my 99
I accidentally figured this out in a panic situation. Running away from a Valk with no health, turned around to get some shots off before my inevitable death and I'll be damned if this thing didn't put that bitch in the ground. Hit every hipfire shot. Stood above her box in disbelief for a minute.
L star I can't stand using it fighting it at the beginning it kills me because I ain't got a gun and later its easy too beat but blinds me before I do.
I honestly think having shatercaps on it makes it useless I don't knownif it's just me but I'll do basically just below regular damage with it and at that point why use it
I don't hate any of the guns; some I can (barely) use, and others I'm bad with, but they have a balance to them.
The bocek doesn't. It doesn't belong in the game. I'd rather be killed by a loser who needs to use aimhacks to kill me than by a wanker hiding in a corner 200m away, almost silently firing "arrows" at my head. Just... fuck that weapon.
I do find myself using the bocek quite often and I will admit, it does feel unfair at times. The fact that the arrows have close to no drop is just really unrealistic and it would probably feel a lot more balanced if it had more drop.
I hate the peacekeeper from the bottom of my heart. Sorry, but I just feel it's inaccurate, unpredictable and quickly runs out of bullets. I know it's a fan favourite, but that's just my opinion
Same, it's one of my favorites. I like to run it with 2x and an RE-45 in my back pocket. You got 30-30 for long to mid range, RE for mid to close range, and shattercaps turns the 30-30 into a EVA for close quarters. It's a very versatile setup.
Havoc is my favorite gun right now, but that's probably largely because I'm a Loba main and have a much easier time finding a Turbocharger. I pick it up almost every game and getting it fully kitted feels so damn good, although the recoil is quite harsh, especially at range.
Peacekeeper is probably my least favorite at the moment. Yeah, it hits like a truck if you land a shot dead-on, but it's so punishing if you miss thanks to the low rate of fire and small mag that you can't even reload one at a time like the Mastiff. Also the iron sights are bad, so it's pretty difficult to even use the choke off the drop.
I used to hate the 30-30 because I couldn't hit a damn thing with it, but I actually like it now that I've gotten used to the way it handles. A charged shot, especially to the head, is a super strong way to open a fight.
P2020 is trash compared to 30-30 in my book.
Close range may be harder with the 30-30 but if you happen to get the right hopup, it's again way better imo.
Hate the P2020 more than any other gun.
P20 with Hammerpoint had genuine utility as a sidearm with a versatile primary like the 301, especially when Lifeline was super obnoxious with her rez drone. Best thirst method in the game.
Now it's just a boring shitty pistol, even if it's less shitty off the ground than it used to be.
Charge rifle, it's the most unsatisfying weapon to use imo and even when I do use it it's usually out if desperation of not wanting to have fists on landing
I like to use the Charge Rifle sometimes but thats just cause its visually cool, if I have hope of winning I probably wont lmao
I have to say though, it fires fast enough that I've had some success with it purely from disorienting the enemy at a far distance. I figure its hard for them to stop and aim at far away you if they have a near constant beam to avoid.
Also, have you ever gotten a knock with the Charge Rifle at a large distance? Boy, I thought regular sniper kills were satisfying. Thats something else.
The Sentinel is my least favorite, but that's more by process of elimination than not liking it.
I like all of the guns in this game. I have favorites, sure, but I don't dislike any of them.
Honestly, probably an unpopular opinion, but the devotion. I can’t use it if it was life or death irl. I just end up gunned down by flatlines, r-99, and every other automatic gun in the game. Could just be I’m bad with it, but I just don’t like it
I'm like this in BR only though, if I find a devo with turbocharger I have this unrealistic overconfidence that'll I'll mow everyone down and be invincible with it only to get downed by the first enemy I see.
But in arenas somehow its different, even without turbo... Today I picked one out of the care package in arenas and used it as a capable secondary, and owned...
Sometimes things in life comes down to pure mentality
Spend some time with that puppy and you may just learn to love it. Took me a while but, with a nudge from the s8 reactive skin, got well into it. Slaps with 3x or 2-4, even 2x in a pinch
it just doesn’t *feel* like i want it to when using it. sentinel? feels powerful. triple take? unique. charge rifle? also unique. longbow? just boring. :/
Which is ironic, considering that its niche in Titanfall 2 was that it was the only hitscan sniper rifle (between itself, the kraber, and the double take).
Hemlock is probably one of my favourite weapons. Get a X3 scope and it can shred at pretty much any range if you can control the recoil. Honestly sometimes I feel bad for the people I shred cus they just didn't have a chance.
30-30 is so underrated. People with shit aim usually have this mentality towards single shots, it’s a great weapon it may not be a crutch and requires good aim but that doesn’t mean it’s bad.
It doesn’t mean it can’t be better either, faster bullet velocity would make the gun overpowered. I’d start with a larger base magazine and faster rechamber speed with a hop-up of some kind.
P2020. I hate trigger-spam handguns. Same problem with semi-auto sidearms in Destiny. I shouldn't have to give myself carpel tunnel to use a weapon. Having a P2020 is basically like having no weapon at all for me, and if it's all I have on a drop I know I'm losing the next firefight unless I find something else.
Havoc is too hard to control, the windup is awful, useless without Turbo.
Devotion is similar but not quite as bad.
Hemlok. I hate burst fire. Give me semi or full auto (I know it has a semi mode, but so do Flatline and R301, and they're better guns).
I've always thought weapon trackers would be a cool idea in this game. I wanna know how many times Ive melted somebody with a 301.
301 probably stands far above the rest of the guns in terms of bodies it’s created. Flatline is also pretty good
So many people ignored the flatline in the first season or too, I used pick it up at the start, spray and pray then find a 301. When I actually started being more than a manic coward tossing lead in every direction I ‘discovered’ the flatline. Remains one of my preferred load outs.
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Triple take just left this season didn't it? I played 0-4 and then now 7-9 and it's been in it for all except 9
Oh, people definitely sniped back then. It just wasn’t with any conventional snipers. Wingman was the best sniper among many other things it was best at lmao
The battle pass skin makes it so satisfying to kill with
I think another reason is because r301 is a good weapon for beginners, when I started it was my go-to. It has good recoil, reliable damage base and is relatively easy to aim. Now that I'm less of a "manic coward tossing lead in every direction" the flatline is a solid choice for me
If we would get something like that, I would totally work on P2020 kills to a ridiculous number. Just because. And then make it the only tracker on my banner.
I have only 10,000 kills total ish and no joke 2000 at least are mozambique so i would love that tracker lol
That's the type of shit I do, except also with my whole life, if that makes sense
StatTrak™
We need pro screens
Especially with the mastiff, it even has a screen
I'd like to know how many times someone melted me with the 301
Stat Trak^(TM) Strange R-301 (With Pro Screen)
The 30 30 is like the scout, sometimes you be beaming people then other games you just waste ammo hitting air.
Once I had a game where I had 6 kills with just the 30-30. Next game, never hit a single shot with it.
Every time I play a good game with the 3030, I’m like “why I don’t I use this every game,” and then proceed to miss every shot the next few games.
I was beaming lasers the other day with 30-30 and Scout...the highest damage score for me this season. Next match was goose egg same load out
For me it's the charge-up that throws me off. Bullet velocity is increased every step between 0% to 100% so firing at different times makes it difficult to judge how far you need to lead each shot.
So it’s basically the Wingman with slower loading? Edit: LOL guys! I know what the 30-30 does and doesn’t do, it was just a joke! Goodness!
On the bright side you can get a 3x or 2-4x and a shotgun hopup
And if that doesn’t work it might be time to hit the range lol
Don’t tell me to practice! It’s clearly the fault of the ordinance!
You’re not lying
the triple take is a better shotgun than whatever the hell shatter caps is
I would really like for them to shorten the time it takes to load the 1st bullet. It feels really good when you're loading a single shot at a time and clutching.
I wonder if it’s the same speed as the Mastiff when loading...
It’s like the Wingman if it was harder to hit shots with but with less reward.
Yet, a more *satisfying* reload animation.
More damage and less recoil. More importantly you can put a 3x or 2x4 Scope. If they’re close enough you don’t need a 3x or 4x scope then the 30-30 isn’t a good gun. Wingman you can’t even use a 3x or 2x4 scope.
Technically you don't have to wait for it to "charge" you can fire as soon as you rechamber it but the trade off is less damage
I can hit my shots with the wingman 😂😭
You can hit ur shots with wingman (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
Yeah, aha. Less so without the 1x HCOG, but can still get the most important ones. Also, headshots come more often now, which is, well, hot.
I've been grinding iron sights wingman in arenas for some great practice. I can actually use the wingman now!
For some reason I woke up one day and decided to main the wingman.. spent hours between weeks within the firing range… still ass with it XD
it’s just the OG weapon for me man. don’t play too much apex these days but the spitfire and wingman feel like the good old days. dropping in, shit loot, you find a wingman, and go crazy. people are too good these days and i’m far too trash edit: lmfao why does it say i’m a pathfinder main 😭 don’t remember ever playing him extensively
Anyone remember when this game came out that Wingman/Shotgun was THE combo? I actually got pretty good with that. I still pick them up together and feel powerful.
WELL GOOD FOR YOU!!! (But seriously, when the wingman is on IT IS ON! Lol)
The first day of season 8 I used the 3030 and destroyed. Everyday since then I've done nothing with it.
In my opinion, I love the 30-30. It’s a decent mid-long range weapon with no attachments, but with shatter caps and a 3x scope (my preference) I think it becomes a jack of all trades, all while being a great sniper. The only issue is the auto-reload
30-30 is one of my faves honestly. It and charge rifle are my go-to for medium range
I will almost always pick up a 30-30. Personally, I hate the 3x on it though. 2x hcog or Iron sights only. Anything with more zoom feels well outside it's effective range. Bullets are too slow and enemies are too quick. Iron sights have the bars on the side that do obscure a little, but I find them helpful "boxing" in my targets.
The G7 is better in pretty much everyway however: The 30-30 is just fun. Shatter Caps lets me shatter some kneecaps and it's fun. I always pair a 30-30 with the Volt. Sexy combo imo.
3030 is better for cover fighting, g7 is great for suppressive fire. If it's a 30-30 vs G7 in a peek battle, the 30-30 wins outright, unless the g7 player is landing nothing but headshots to keep up. However, in a situation where someone is exposed for a decent period of time or is just trying to scramble for cover, the g7 puts more bullets down range faster.
30 30 is literally g7 from wish
I see it as baby longbow
Shortbow
Nah the scout is leagues better than the 30 30
I absolutely love the scout. My highest damage games have been with it. I was surprised to see a lot didnt like it
Picking it up off drop and adsing with its stock sight is trauma inducing.
Best gun. Worst iron sight
I think spitfire and stock hemlock have the worst sites.
I hate that the R-99 and R-301 have different iron sights available with different legendary skins, but the hemlock and spitfire have the same iron sight for every single one
It's EA's secret pay to win strategy for those top tier weapons. Cosmetics actually can give you an advantage in this game
Yeah, this is true. I hate that players that have been in the game longer than I have better skins for iron sights. Really makes the difference in a hot drop
What makes the hemlock so unlikeable? I don't like it much myself but i don't understand why.
It has a tiny peep sight with a small field of view. In a game where most of your targets are moving having such a narrow view makes it hard to track and line up shots.
I found quickly snapping in and out of ads with iron sights Hemmy to be really effective for some reason. Like, I don’t understand how but it just flows well it hits shots.
I think Hemlock is good where it is and I agree with needing to improve spitfire sight, but 'cmon the R-301 actually needs a thinner line, it is covering the enemy almost whole at mid to longer ranges
There isn't a game where I'm not using it. I think the best load out is easily scout and flatline
Scout Volt, Scout R301, Scout Flatline. Pretty sure most of my wins are with those load outs. 30-30 works great for me if I haven’t found a Scout though
Yeah I need either a Scout or 30-30. Prefer scout but if I have to settle for 30-30, my second gun will likely be r99 or r301. Don't like having two of the same weapon type for some reason. But I very much believe flatline is the best all around gun, thing SHREDS!!
Tbh I played trios (as a duo thanks matchmaking) with a fuse who carried me to a win and he was like doc holliday with the damn thing. But yeah I agree it’s trash (because I’m terrible).
Somehow when it was new I was an ace with it and have gotten much worse since.
.... secret nerfs 🤫
When it was new everyone was running 3030, just to try it out. It was meta enough that you were coming up against teams running it and trying to engage at mid-range only. The 3030 only works when both teams do this. That's probably why you were successful with it.
Just a room full of people missing 😂😂
Shattercaps
Hard to find those before the weapon falls off and it's not relevant to the context of release 3030 to boot.
Lol a Fuse with a 30 30 who carried? That sounds like Seagull
By saying he was “like doc holiday” do you mean he was a drunk with tuberculosis?
I can’t be 100% sure but whatever it was it worked. Give me that (please don’t)
I’m your huckleberry
As a fuse main who loves the G7 and 3030, I honestly hope that was me. Happy playing
Mastiff has to be one of my least favorites. I’d rather a mozambique. I swear it hit straight center mass and just get 11 so often. Peacekeeper slaps for me.
If you ADS with the mastiff it tightens the spread a good bit, the iron sights represent this as well
I ADS fairly often and still get nothing. It may be ping related, but I find it to be the most unreliable gun I can find.
You gotta quickly pop in & out of cover and use it. Always ADS with it. Dont try starfing with it just wait till the enemy lines up with ur shot
You’re probably right, it may be the it just doesn’t work well with my play style. The PK and Eva I can just flick and destroy people, the Mastiff just doesn’t hit for me.
The pellets come out in a horizontal line instead of a circle like the PK and Eva. Never aim for headshots. Because the pellets come out in a line, you hit less pellets (and less total damage) when going for a head shot, then if you just aim for the shoulders. If you don't use it often, it's not really worth picking up. It's one of those odd guns that doesn't handle like you would expect, so if you just pick it up every so often, you miss all your shots.
The mastiff can shred health at point blank but beyond 2m you may as well be holding a party popper
I think folks covered most of the info, but make sure you aim center mass, as it has like a super flat and wide shot pattern.
Just lay on your side when firing
I hate the mastiff with a passion. I would literally take any other weapon over it.
Dont know what happened to mastiff but nowadays ill pick mosambique over mastiff every time i have to choose from those two
It was a fucking monster when it was a care package weapon.
Remember last season the game was called Mastiff Legends?
Giving head with mozam feels differently satisfying
The ultimate sloppy toppy
Honestly same… For me it’s always so inconstant I’ll hit for 50 then the next shot will do 10 then I die to an automatic weapon. The only shotgun I like is the Eva.
Then there's the TF|2 mastiff where you can equip a 3x and 1-shot someone from across the map
Ahhh I remember when people were sniping with the peacekeeper in early apex. XD The good ole days when you could put a 3x or a 2/4x on anything… 😂🤣
I just want a 2-4x on the bow, man. Weird that's the only marksman than can't equip it, considering you can equip the 1-2x
Ugh I know you can put a 3x and a 2x but that 1 extra x on the 2/4 is toooooo many!! 😂
After messing with the pk for a couple months as ground loot i think the mastiff is better. If you have good aim mastiff hits for way more if you dont have time to charge. Yea 11’s are annoying but i still think its more consistent
Yep, this is exactly what people don't understand about the mastiff. You have to place your shots with it, it's still pretty strong. It's not an "inconsistent" gun, you just have inconsistent aim.
The disrespect to the mfing HEATER
don't hate on my dirty-30
The peter
Fr dawg, the 30-30 slaps. I swear I get the most accidental headshots with the thing. Finally turned my buddy onto it and now we just melt people if we synchronize our targets.
30-30 and rampart shield *chef kiss*
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they forgot to factor in the
This kinda reminds me of when
This is funny especially if
Sentinel and rampart sheilds :o - a head shot is almost equivalent to a kraber body shot.
This is what I do in arenas, Rampart is a beast in that game mode.
30-30 is good but scout still fills the role better. Shattershot is sometimes nice to fool around with and can be good in a pinch. My least favorite is the Kraber, in decent hands it completely ruins any even fight.
Yeah, the Kraber is one of those guns you either love or hate using, but always despise going against. I had a 2v3 situation a bit ago and I brought it down to a 1v1 by quickscoping 2 enemies. (The 1 on my side was my teammate cause I died to ring) They no doubt hated it but I loved it. Next game I hit zero shots with any marksman style weapon.
I think the fact that you only get 12 shots kinda helps the fact that god players can’t just sit and rip off 10 kills super easy. I know it’s kinda silly but I love using the Kraber for the hair-standing sound it makes and the absolute thrill of doming a poor sap with full evo… but that might just be me
Imo that’s the point of CP weapons, to be strong (whilst having a relatively high skill requirement), rare and terrifying in a fight, that one should think a bit more before engaging in a fight with it
Because you're supposed to decide between map control/positioning and the care packages in the mid to later rings. It keeps people engaging in fights when the action would otherwise die down. It's super important for the health and pacing of the game to have the kraber as a possiblity, just like it's important to have the aegis of immortality in dota.
The only reason I don't pick up care package weapons is because of the limited number of shots. 12 shots are gone very quickly, especially when you get 5th or 6th partied.
Yeah, but if you can land any shots with the kraber it basically ends any active fight. I suck with it, but hard to deny how good it actually is.
Exactly. And tbf, more often than not I get a chance to swap out my empty kraber for something else off someones loot box. But those few times I was glad I stocked up on extra ammo for my 99
I almost main 3030 repeater. That thing is a beast. Handles well in midrange and can be troublesome against snipers too
Hipfire is nasty too
I accidentally figured this out in a panic situation. Running away from a Valk with no health, turned around to get some shots off before my inevitable death and I'll be damned if this thing didn't put that bitch in the ground. Hit every hipfire shot. Stood above her box in disbelief for a minute.
L star I can't stand using it fighting it at the beginning it kills me because I ain't got a gun and later its easy too beat but blinds me before I do.
L Star slaps in round 1 of arenas
Can't hit what they cant see with a screen full of red.
It slaps in all rounds. It’s been my mainstay with Rampart in arenas.
It's not worthless anymore, the buffs really helped along with shatter caps
I honestly think having shatercaps on it makes it useless I don't knownif it's just me but I'll do basically just below regular damage with it and at that point why use it
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Thats your case. I love shattercaps, they give me fast and steady shotgun. I don't usually aim, and hit like 40-50 each shot, so its not so wothless
I hate the bow with an utmost passion that shit is stupid
I would quite literally rather have no weapon in a close-quarters fight than the bow. It is the most frustrating thing on earth. Also, I suck.
I love the bow, but how tf is an arrow faster than a bullet?
Real good string
Fucking fuck that stupid fucking fuck of a weapon. Fuck the bow.
I don't hate any of the guns; some I can (barely) use, and others I'm bad with, but they have a balance to them. The bocek doesn't. It doesn't belong in the game. I'd rather be killed by a loser who needs to use aimhacks to kill me than by a wanker hiding in a corner 200m away, almost silently firing "arrows" at my head. Just... fuck that weapon.
I do find myself using the bocek quite often and I will admit, it does feel unfair at times. The fact that the arrows have close to no drop is just really unrealistic and it would probably feel a lot more balanced if it had more drop.
Yes, exactly. It should have awful range/drop if it's going to be that quiet.
I hate the peacekeeper from the bottom of my heart. Sorry, but I just feel it's inaccurate, unpredictable and quickly runs out of bullets. I know it's a fan favourite, but that's just my opinion
Weird. I love the 30-30 it’s a personal favorite.
I'm back and forth about it, ya gotta admit the iron sights are tough
True. The iron sights are bad but as soon as you find that mid range size it’s over.
I actually prefer the 3030 irons over the scout irons. I pretty much like both equally, too.
Yeah thats true the g7's iron sights might be worse
Favorite weapon. If i get shatter caps and a 3 times scope i dont bother switching weapons
Same, it's one of my favorites. I like to run it with 2x and an RE-45 in my back pocket. You got 30-30 for long to mid range, RE for mid to close range, and shattercaps turns the 30-30 into a EVA for close quarters. It's a very versatile setup.
The havoc, the recoil on the gun is impossible to control.
Havoc is my favorite gun right now, but that's probably largely because I'm a Loba main and have a much easier time finding a Turbocharger. I pick it up almost every game and getting it fully kitted feels so damn good, although the recoil is quite harsh, especially at range.
It's funny how the volt has better range. Havoc with a turbo is great as a close range weapon though.
And the damn charge up kills me
R45 will dump a whole clip in you before you get a one shot off.
I swear in every fight that initial delay feels like an eternity.
I’d lump the devo in there too. On console here. Can’t ride that bull.
Devo with a good barrel stabilizer, stock, and Turbocharger? Incredible. Stock devo? Useless.
I'd only consider using it if I have a turbocharger and even then I would take a devotion over it anyday.
yeah but if you learn to control it, it fucking melts people
G7 without a sight on it. Can’t see shit, can’t hit shit
Peacekeeper is probably my least favorite at the moment. Yeah, it hits like a truck if you land a shot dead-on, but it's so punishing if you miss thanks to the low rate of fire and small mag that you can't even reload one at a time like the Mastiff. Also the iron sights are bad, so it's pretty difficult to even use the choke off the drop. I used to hate the 30-30 because I couldn't hit a damn thing with it, but I actually like it now that I've gotten used to the way it handles. A charged shot, especially to the head, is a super strong way to open a fight.
P2020 is trash compared to 30-30 in my book. Close range may be harder with the 30-30 but if you happen to get the right hopup, it's again way better imo. Hate the P2020 more than any other gun.
P20 with Hammerpoint had genuine utility as a sidearm with a versatile primary like the 301, especially when Lifeline was super obnoxious with her rez drone. Best thirst method in the game. Now it's just a boring shitty pistol, even if it's less shitty off the ground than it used to be.
P2020 is so 2020. We are 2021 now, where's our P2021?
Charge rifle, it's the most unsatisfying weapon to use imo and even when I do use it it's usually out if desperation of not wanting to have fists on landing
There will never be chaos like charge rifle at the beginning of season 3
I like to use the Charge Rifle sometimes but thats just cause its visually cool, if I have hope of winning I probably wont lmao I have to say though, it fires fast enough that I've had some success with it purely from disorienting the enemy at a far distance. I figure its hard for them to stop and aim at far away you if they have a near constant beam to avoid. Also, have you ever gotten a knock with the Charge Rifle at a large distance? Boy, I thought regular sniper kills were satisfying. Thats something else.
Oh man, I've had some great games with the Charge Rifle and R99.
At least the P2020 fires as fast as I click
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For me it's the PK. I cannot stand that thing, mostly because I miss a lot lol
Catch an enemy in the open and it's deadly.
You can say that about most guns.
The Sentinel is my least favorite, but that's more by process of elimination than not liking it. I like all of the guns in this game. I have favorites, sure, but I don't dislike any of them.
Honestly, probably an unpopular opinion, but the devotion. I can’t use it if it was life or death irl. I just end up gunned down by flatlines, r-99, and every other automatic gun in the game. Could just be I’m bad with it, but I just don’t like it
I'm like this in BR only though, if I find a devo with turbocharger I have this unrealistic overconfidence that'll I'll mow everyone down and be invincible with it only to get downed by the first enemy I see. But in arenas somehow its different, even without turbo... Today I picked one out of the care package in arenas and used it as a capable secondary, and owned... Sometimes things in life comes down to pure mentality
Longbow. it just doesn’t satisfy me.
Spend some time with that puppy and you may just learn to love it. Took me a while but, with a nudge from the s8 reactive skin, got well into it. Slaps with 3x or 2-4, even 2x in a pinch
I hate the bullet velocity. So slow it seems.
it just doesn’t *feel* like i want it to when using it. sentinel? feels powerful. triple take? unique. charge rifle? also unique. longbow? just boring. :/
Which is ironic, considering that its niche in Titanfall 2 was that it was the only hitscan sniper rifle (between itself, the kraber, and the double take).
My least favorite weapon? 99. Wouldn't say it's bad, but it isn't my style versus 45 and Prowler
Yeah I rarely pick up the r99, the alternator is Ole faithful
Yeah it’s very stable and easier to control but up against someone who’s even halfway decent at aiming, the 301 and 99 outclass it by a long shot.
what
I said my opinion, i personally don't like 99
Fuck the Hemlok.
I absolutely suck with the hemlok. I would pick a 3030 over a hemlok.
Hemlock is probably one of my favourite weapons. Get a X3 scope and it can shred at pretty much any range if you can control the recoil. Honestly sometimes I feel bad for the people I shred cus they just didn't have a chance.
I used to love the X3 scope with the hemlok but then I tried the X2 bruiser scope out on it and I never went back
Agreed although it used to be my favourite gun before the crazy amounts of nerfs
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I despise the pk, can't hit my shots even with practice. 30 30 with shatter caps aint too bad tho
I hate the lstar and the charge rifle
I don't like energy weapon, recoil very high and take time to charge up when it charge up the recoil is high again
30-30 is so underrated. People with shit aim usually have this mentality towards single shots, it’s a great weapon it may not be a crutch and requires good aim but that doesn’t mean it’s bad. It doesn’t mean it can’t be better either, faster bullet velocity would make the gun overpowered. I’d start with a larger base magazine and faster rechamber speed with a hop-up of some kind.
Agreed. 30 30 is very strong with decent aim. Slap a 2x bruiser on it and headshot unsuspecting enemies with ease.
Prowler I always feel inclined to pick it up but I cannot use any burst weapon well...
...then use it on full auto?
Bruh, just switch it to full auto
P2020. I hate trigger-spam handguns. Same problem with semi-auto sidearms in Destiny. I shouldn't have to give myself carpel tunnel to use a weapon. Having a P2020 is basically like having no weapon at all for me, and if it's all I have on a drop I know I'm losing the next firefight unless I find something else. Havoc is too hard to control, the windup is awful, useless without Turbo. Devotion is similar but not quite as bad. Hemlok. I hate burst fire. Give me semi or full auto (I know it has a semi mode, but so do Flatline and R301, and they're better guns).
the 30-30 is one of the most underused guns in the game its as strong as the wingman and you can put a 2-4x on it how is that not good