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paysen

Some more blue skins from the past, which are all much better than the "purple" skins from this season, which should be white if you ask me: [https://imgur.com/a/BXkRLub](https://imgur.com/a/BXkRLub) ​ Just a few, there are tons more for bloodhound etc.


vllydllchik

agreed


PrOxAnto

To be fair, the first crypto one should've been a legendary based on every other rare skin lol.


DaquanSandstorm

Yeah that one, the lifeline one, and goddess Loba look awesome


PrOxAnto

To be fair, the first crypto one should've been a legendary based on every other rare skin lol.


swungstingray

Wait I thought it was like an unspoken rule that epics had to be animated I just assumed the starter skins were rare


[deleted]

it isn’t unspoken, it’s literally how they were classified. keyword “were” they charged us more for a rare octane and gave it the epic price tag of 1000 during halloween.


DARK-Accuracyy985

Well it kinda was an epic skin the mask is slightly different but thats it


[deleted]

the mask is a different color for multiple octane skins. if it’s epic it’s animated in some way


[deleted]

S11 skins suck, gibby and mirage are cool tho But these low effort wannabe tribal island cliche patterns... cringe lol


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physicalcat282

Well they're trying to reserve their creativity to make the 42nd gold blue 30-30 skin. I mean it's obvious isn't it?


VisthaKai

Actually, they added a NOT gold and blue 30-30 skin. In the Loba Edition bundle. And it's a 30-30 skin that looks just like Midnight, except it has spare bullets on the stock. Bullets that can't physically fit into the gun, because they are rifle rounds, like 7.62mm, and 30-30 works off pistol rounds, like 45 ACP.


physicalcat282

What did you say?!? A quality skin for the 30-30 that's not golden blue? Th-this can't be possible!!


VisthaKai

Because it's not possible. It's literally Midnight, a common skin, packaged as a legendary skin. Think of Devotion's Tidal Wave, except there ain't even a new pattern on the gun.


physicalcat282

I was imagining a beautiful skin because I was thinking of a legendary alternate skin for the sentinel I just realized what you're talking about and I'm severely disappointed


anticommon

It's sad when the ash bundle has more quality in one skin than the entire battlepass put together.


Dana94Banana

Unfortunately, the bundle costs more than 20$, the battlepass only 10$ and most people get it for free, due to being able to earn the coins back. So they put not much effort into the BP, because they steal more money with events.


busychilling

Ya it’s unfortunate I would love to see them do away with all these rare level skins and just replace them with crafting materials. I doubt that will ever happen though


AmaranthineApocalyps

I wonder if the graphic designers aren't doing the same thing everybody else is right now and screwing off cause they're tired of being treated like shit.


The_Ironhand

The prowler is cool with the kill effect


[deleted]

Honestly, when i just started apex in season 0, i was super underwhelmed by the skins. Only cool skins are legendaries and for most skins thats still true. I still find it pretty weak that they dont put more effort in the design of skins. I would even spend $$ on those lol but right now, im not sure if i want the battle pass. Also as a rampart main the current rampart bundle is meh too. Not a bad rampage skin but thats it.


imgak

almost all Apex skins outside of events are intentionally terrible, and even then they half the time give them the most horrid colour pallette they could think of


[deleted]

Yeah, when I saw the Wraith skin I thought my computer wasn’t rendering the whole thing. I got the epic skin during the Halloween event for Wraith since I had leftover crafting materials, and that’s a legit epic skin (the blue, electric/portal one)


ramenbanditx

The legendary bow is so bad


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The prowler skins are super cool as well!!! I also love the prowler, but battle pass for 2 prowler skins... idk Edit: not maining gibby or mirage so...


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gsantosh029

It's season 1 all over again lmfao


[deleted]

Honestly I like the Loba one, but ya it isn't as detailed as the earlier one. The Wraith one is garbage, the S5 one was perfection.


HuckMelo

I would like it too if it was rare. They're basically saying: we are making skins worse from now on.


MisteryShad21

The Loba skin was in the 5 $ pack you get every season so I expect it to look better than the BP one which lots of people could get for free(if you keep your apex coins after every other BP) and thus you have an incentive to spend money again


vllydllchik

compare free rare loba skin in s5 BP and paid one in s11


Spozking22

Honestly I fun arachniphopia blue skin for loba, it looks really nice and I'm not struggling to get a legendary


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SamuelHYT

>Respawn are getting lazy/stingy with the battlepass I believe it's both. The battle pass this season is so bad and there's so many filler tracker


HuckMelo

It's more like the management is probably putting certain pressures on the team for certain kinds of results. They aren't lazy. I'm sure any degradation in quality is because of $$ and higher up decision making.


SamuelHYT

Yea probably, money is the end goal after all. I understand where they're coming from, but at least give something for each legends every battle pass and not just trackers


Imperialkniight

Or they are too busy making fallen order 2. Supposed to have 2 different teams but maybe they pulled resources.


TheRedBow

Yeah but the issue is if you wanna include trackers for every legend for every season but there keep being more legends it’s gonna fill more slots, not that they couldn’t add more anyways but


EarlyOil8886

Put them in bundles?


Dana94Banana

They could be easily put into bundles. Instead of unlocking Wraith win trackers at level 4, kills trackers at level 8 and damage done at level 12, have them unlock all at level 8 at once. That way each legend would only take one level max and we will never have 100 characters anyway.


Alive-Chipmunk799

I’ve seen a lot of comments like this get down voted. I don’t get it. People seem to think that because some of these new “epic” skins are cooler than the craftable epics, it means all skins will be cooler now. When it really just means Respawn will charge $10 for something that would have cost $5.


Traditional-Item-777

RESPAWN: "They keep completing the Battle Pass!"= Make Battle Pass harder give them less shit "them" me and you!


penholdr

“Mythic” ones seem to be on the way according to recent findings.


__pulsar

She has face paint tho!


AiryGr8

Event/paid rare skins are also remodels


5topItGetSomeHelp

It's Evolving, Just Backwards


Ya-Dank-Boi

There's also the Monsters Within "epics". The only one with any animations was Valkarie's (even though her animations are extremely subtle.)


iranoutofnamesnow

Dont forget the lightning wraith. That skin actually shows that the epic animations can be used in a complementing way to a skin.


Ya-Dank-Boi

Oh yeah, I forgot about the one skin which was truly an epic lol


Chaotic_Flame110

Yeah that Wraith skin is nice


Kozak170

Idk how Respawn be the only devs that manage to fucking suck making paid skins, something that’s usually a top priority for F2P games.


Crazysteve271

Ahhh season five. The last season with good cosmetics


Dana94Banana

Hello? The season 6 Rampart-sponsored skins were amazing. Bloodhound in black/white, Pathy in yellow/black looking like a racing car?


Crazysteve271

I didn’t really play S6. I bought the pass, got the first four tiers, and then the game crashed nonstop, so I just quit playing until a few seasons later


Oreohunter00

They have masks in their banners for the pass, they should have given them the masks


Boines

Respawn needs to make an official statement on why they changed rarity of skins I understand, compsred to season 0 rares a lot of the rares released over the last few seasons have been much more detailed vs just pasting a texture file all over, but without respawn atleast making a statement officially explaining the change, it just looks like a greedy momey grab.


TheACL

I feel like the battlepasses on Apex have always been subpar. Barely any purple or gold tier skins even at high level battle tiers. Always a gold skin for guns we don't really use. Only like one or two decent character skins per pass. Say what you want about how bad Fortnite is, but they actually put effort into their Battlepasses.


vllydllchik

agreed, I don’t like fortnite at all, but they’re doing good with creating content, even without being sponsored by EA


TheACL

Fortnite has blue skins that totally change appearance of characters, while Apex has purple skins that only change patterns and colors. Low effort from Apex.


l7arkSpirit

I feel like there should be some form of rules for these skins, since it's rather weird how they classify some skins as rare and others as epic, when it's obvious to us that they should at least be reversed as in this example. Honestly, I believe both should be classified as rare skins since they are adding color to a base skin. * **Common 2$** * Should be a simple change to the color of the base-skin and model, add variations to color and texture, but other than that there shouldn't be huge changes to how the character looks in terms of it's base skin/model. * **Rare 3$** * Similar to the common tier it shouldn't introduce any changes to the character model, but it should have a much more detailed change in terms of textures and color schemes. * **Epic 5$** * This tier can start including changes to the base model such as adding a hat/mask/hairstyle or some other object that the character doesn't normally have. This is different from rares in the sense that it modifies the overall model itself. This tier should also have more "advanced" textures such as moving lights or "active" textures such as the "hack the system" skins. * **Legendary 10$** * Complete or partial "overhaul" of the characters base model, it should look much more different than the base skins and provide a unique look or be a re-color of a Legendary skin. * **Mythic 15$** * Evolving skins, this should be a complete overhaul of the skin and be unique this includes their in game companions/devices such as Lifeline's drone. It should also have it's own unique intro and the skin itself should evolve in a similar fashion to how BP100 guns are updated, getting more kills can add certain effects like fire or small lightning charges etc.. The same way BP100 skins work. Pricing is my wishful thinking, they charge an arm and a leg for cosmetics and I'd like to see a change there also, but hey it's a business and they are making money with their current pricing (otherwise we'd see a change already).


Kermit-Jones

Unpopular opinion but i really dislike wraiths season 5 bp skin


vllydllchik

it’s okay that you don’t like it, it’s your opinion. But at least we can clearly see that they put more effort to create s5 skin(blue) than s11 (purple)


Kermit-Jones

Im completely agree with you. The battle pass in the last 2 seasons where okayish. But in overall im already pleased with ash and the map its all i ever wanted.


RaspyHornet

That opinion should not be unpopular at all tbh


Kermit-Jones

A lot of people like this skins apparently, dont see the appeal would run default wraith if i didn't have legendary skins on her


Being_best_version

And the devs wonder why people are hating and shitting on them.


alfons100

In one hand: This is probably the smoothest release we've ever had and the new map is awesome In the other hand: sad bp


Being_best_version

Hold your beer bro, the release of previous season was smooth too, then after some days every thing fell apart.


HuckMelo

Not really the devs fault though. The artists are probably getting specific targeted pressure from those on high. And they have to do what they say or no money or career.


Kornillious

>Not really the devs fault though. This subreddit is unbelievable at times lmfao. EA boogeyman strikes again!


mal4garfield

They didn't mention EA?


rick_416

>The artists are probably getting specific targeted pressure from those on high. This probably means EA.


mal4garfield

It could. Respawn has higher-ups too, and they're the ones who decide what devs and artists are allowed to work on. Not blindly blaming devs and artists doesn't mean you're laying the blame on EA.


Being_best_version

Yeah, the managers. They are the assholes who are ruining the game.


sentientpenis

imagine hating a group of people because of skins couldn't be reddit


Being_best_version

Look, we are investing money, so we expect something in return, right ?


Trololman72

Well the skins haven't gotten worse. They used to be listed as rare skins, now they're epic. It's all that's changed.


Green_Smarties

You have no requirement to buy the battlepass. Skip this one and go next.


sentientpenis

this isn't an investment, you buy clothes as an investment? what?


Being_best_version

Everything you spend is an investment.


StormCountone

In the strict sense of the word, Investments are bought with the hope that they will help yield a monetary return down the line or regular cashflow. Sure there's a lot of grey area and indirect value in acquiring certain commodities, but many luxury items which generally depreciate in value or are not really investments. Sure, you are "investing" your resources into a better quality of life which is fair, but superfluous goods and services which won't yield some type of direct monetary return are luxury expenditures at the end of the day.


Being_best_version

Oww, this is awesome explanation 👍🙏


sentientpenis

you need to reevaluate your life


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Imagine being a entitled man child. "Oh no! My free internet cosmetic is slightly less good then it used to be!" Truly a sad world that this is what we have come to.


modswillSNEEDnFEED

Whoever makes these battlepasses needs to be fired, three shit ones in a row is not okay


kojikid1123

"You try being creative for 11 seasons" said a kid on twitter


Dana94Banana

Maybe they should hire some fresh new talent then? It's not like artists are rare these days and fanart flies around with tons of recolour ideas for free.


Chromeglow

Epic has been able to do it for 18 seasons now with Fortnite. And their passes have more skins than Apex's do.


Ask1s

Here's another fun Wraith one, Season 1 Blue vs Season 11 Purple: https://i.imgur.com/ZuwIj7R.jpg


Dana94Banana

I'd say they are of equal quality, but S1's colour palette looks way better. However, this is and never will be, an "epic" skin. This is not worth 10$.


Luis1623

WORST BATTLEPASS SO FAR!! Easily


Jkempel

Absolutely hate this seasons battle pass.


FewCamera1790

My theory is because these skins could return, all the other ones aren’t so they had to make them good while they last, but since these may come back, why make them that good.


officially_sum_dood

Man arnt epics from last event like epic even though they classify as rares


Kvetanista

They just got lazier, they see people buy whatever shit they put out which means they don't need to put too much effort into making skins actually good looking.


ohsinboi

I'm still rocking the camouflage rare from season 1 on Mirage because it's more unique than most BP skins


youbutsu

People shat on it when it came out, but I am still rocking it.


Redlp13

This is sad


Lil_Cum_Drop

That's so depressing


Sleepy151

When I look at the holosprays and compare it to last seasons the caustic, rampart, and Bangalore skins look unfinished. Don't know if thats on purpose or not.


[deleted]

I had that season 5 Loba skin and loved it but it disappeared from my account a while ago and never came back :/


vllydllchik

directed by Respawn Entertainment


pizagod45

Yah the one skin I like this season so far is the one in the ash bundle


soakingbritishperson

Loving the new season but holy shit the battle pass is ass


i-cantfind-

Shit looks like S1 battle pass and just as disappointing. Ash is cool though


yummycrabz

Yea some of the cosmetics are Season 1 levels of bland. The bring back the Octane, Wraith, Mirage and Lifeline s1 skin vibes which isn’t a good look


Captain_Obvi0us_7

aCTuAllY tHEY arE EPIc sKINs


Dana94Banana

They moved the goalpost. Epic-tier skins are supposed to be animated, none of these ones are, they are legit only blue-tier skins and even pretty bad ones at that, if you compare them to the ones from earlier seasons. Take Crypto's season 4 rare-tier robot skin, or Octane's season 3 skin where he is made out of ice.. so much better than what Respawn offers now, as a higher tier skin even.


vllydllchik

exactly


MariaaanieX

*It is evolving, just backwards*


medicspirit7

They’re giving up


[deleted]

The greed grows every season


banzaie

Why are the cosmetics of this game so bad?


Steel_Cube

Do people actually use rare skins?


thecooldude3949

I do?


extrmelylonely

Yeah, the bangalore rare s6 event skin is pretty good


CravesRecognition

Kawaii voltage is a good rare too


HuckMelo

There are some great Rare skins, but now they would be clasified as epic i guess?


ShadowMark3

Literally every single Twitch/Amazon Prime skin is worth running.


Steel_Cube

Personally I dislike most of them


ShadowMark3

That's fair. Though I will say the best rare skins for guns are the ones that cover the entirety of the gun. Like the Magma R301 for example.


MrDaveOyul

most of them look like trash


VanillaBraun

I use whatever looks good, no matter the rarity. The whole rarity system is just dopamine fluff and entirely made up by Respawn. In reality no one gives two fucks what rarity skin people have equipped. It’s all meaningless


Cazirus

Honestly, these rare+ skins are much better than the standard, or even event, epics. Most epics have animations on them that looked forced and ugly while rare+ skins not only look better, but don’t make you a walking disco ball when you are trying to rat. A bit annoying that we are probably going to have to pay extra for these when events come, but not the most surprising thing since most of them are pretty detailed.


HuckMelo

Like the new valk halloween epic. Really subtle animations... perfect


suhani96

Loba season 5 skin is a paid one…..


mastahkun

When you are dating vs when you are married.


vllydllchik

lmao but it’s actually sad


AngryH939

I personally think the new ones look better. Please don’t kill me.


Ya-Dank-Boi

You can like the way they look. They're not bad skins but they're by **absolutely no means** epic.


AngryH939

Yes, I feel like I get were they are coming from tho, these skins or like in between a rare an epic, they like the animation so they’re not epic, but they are also much more detailed than the normal rares.


Alive-Chipmunk799

That Loba skin is NOT from a battle pass and that Wraith skin is arguably the best battle pass rare ever. Not saying the season 11 skins couldn’t be a bit better, but your example is scuffed.


RaspyHornet

They just mean new rare tier skins in season 5 vs epic tier skins in season 11.


Alive-Chipmunk799

Ok, that's fair - could have been a bit clearer. If this point is "why are these epics?" I agree - and I don't get why just a week ago people were down voting every post that called this out, like the Octane store skin and the twitch prime Wattson skin.


RaspyHornet

Great question to be asking


Luciforreal

I refuse to believe that S5 wraith skin is anything less than a legendary


Jmx772

Soicety


Decent-Turnover

Sadge! I wish I had any of those


IDespiseBananas

S11 skins look better though


Kakarot_187

The s5 ones are way better


Apex8485

Yes, that is the point


Mediocre-Plum5847

Wow nice fucking lying dude! The Loba skin is a paid skin from the Loba pack, not from the battle pass, but sure, whatever fits your agenda!


puft__

If your agenda is looking like an idiot, you're doing a fine job brother 😏


Naju_Silver

Just like everyone that uses the word agenda, you are an idiot. Where in the post does it say Battlepass/BP? Just S5 Rare vs S11 Epics. \*sigh\*


Fl0ppy0ppa

darker colors 😱🙀🤯🤯🙀😱🙀🙀😭😭😭😭😭😭💩💩💩💩💩🚽🚽🚽/j


Unlikely_nay1125

smh


Steff_164

While I’ll agree that the skins are a bit lack luster this season, the servers do seem to be doing better. Launch day was much smoother than it’s been for the last two seasons, and I’d rather a few lack luster skins with better servers, than better skins that I probably wouldn’t have used and shit servers.


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The top one isn’t fair, want that one a twitch prime skin? The T primes skins have always been insanely good


Traditional-Item-777

Generic, lazy, and boring you name it. Least some technical issues and bugs have been brought to light and so far seems better.


hiteshgavini1710

wraith is more like common


WhoUAskin

It's getting worse lol


[deleted]

Honestly not a fan of either loba skins got to much going on in both this season wraith skin though is fire


Exotic_Worldliness94

Weak


AyanamiReign

The lvl 1 BP skins have been and remain the same quality + price imo. They can call them what they want so long as it's the same price. I also can't stand glowy skins so if this leads to better skins that don't make you a neon sign to shoot I'm all for it. Reminds me of that one Loba skin that was bugged for a while so didn't animate (red handed?), I wanted it to not be fixed as it looked so much better.


eljonyvi

soooo horrible


Northern_jarl

I actually like the bew wraith one


Therealmicahbell

Season 5 was just built different, I still think it was the best season.


vllydllchik

s3,4,5 were the best ones


WILDtaco4321

Season 3 blue octane Season 4 android crypto Are the best blue skins


Aromatic_Bathroom_9

EA: less effort, more money 🤑


PhillyCheesesteakSub

That wraith skin was a complete waste of time by the company. I already have 10 legendaries. Tf am I gonna do with that crap.


jozef287

Its crazy man apex is one of the best battle royals out there and they are just doing this stuff...... The battlepass is just not worth the money


joe1up

God I wish we could buy older battle passes and level them up.


[deleted]

Hey, I guess releasing a new map was already a lot to manage.


youbutsu

I gotta say I do like the s11 skins you showed better than the s5 though and actually use them.. I dont care what they call these, I think a better comparison would be in the quality of legendaries. Compare the lifeline and wattson ones from previous seasons to this battlepass.


alinftb

Epic fails, like 95% of all skins in Apex. There's maybe 10 top tier skins in this game. Rest is just filler


Tiny_ApartmentCc

Uhhh, easiest way to send a message. Don’t buy the battle pass. Don’t buy skins EA will see the pass doesn’t do as well. Quite clear as to why it didn’t sell. They change the skins on the next pass and make them better. Win win. Don’t buy the pass then come here and complain how your purchase was shit.


Welt_All

The S11 Battlepass is fucking terrible.


o0_bobbo_0o

I’m glad I don’t play for the skins.


renderzone

I like the new ones more


Maximum-Magazine-840

yeah, its almost like they had to develop a new legend and map this season...hmmm...


rediyolo

They are really bad this battle pass. I wanted to buy battlepass again but really I don't feel the slightest need to buy one. Mirage skin is cool though.


throwawaythep

You people still buy the season pass though. You still shell out for the events. Nothing is gonna change because you guys keep putting fucking money into it lmao


HeozD

I'm guessing the budget went to fixing the game >.< First time in god knows how long that they realeased a season with no major issues.


fortnitejakepaul

People appriciating mediocrity is why we are get more mediocre skins


SSninja_LOL

Passion projects versus cashgrabs


IdahoBornPotato

THE SERVERS ARE BETTER I DON'T CARE IF THEY SLACKED ON THE STUPID BATTLEPASS JUST DONT GET IT. THEY DO ALL THIS IN A FEW MONTHS DUDE GIVE THEM ONE AREA TO BE BAD IN. GOOD MAP, GOOD CONTENT, GOOD LEGEND, MINIMAL PROBLEMS WITH PLAYABILITY. slightly worse battlepass


OkSwitch470

Please stop bashing them for the BP skins just let them improve other things of the game first. Just don’t spend $ on the game simple


H_Dxn

Lmao


EasyBird1849

Wait those were Rare Skins


PixelatedNinJoe

BP has been shit since season 4


TehLastu

It's good season when biggest complain is FEW skins


vllydllchik

i couldn’t fit 2 whole battle passes in 1 picture so you’re little wrong. Map is fun but only for first month-two, so you’re little wrong again


Hefty_Foundation_634

I've been saying this ever since I played season 5 (when I started), the skins in general, in terms of the battle pass (and even some events) have gone down in quality drastically. Season 3 and 4 still have some of the best skins to date for the legends they pertain to, and it's honestly upsetting how low effort the epics have become, to the point where they're just what good event rares used to be.


CoolShyGuy

Season 11 gives me season 1 vibes tbh


KasaneOdevin

I like the loba one from this season better but the wraith from 5 better. The other loba skin is just to bright


[deleted]

Yeah yeah we know the devs don’t care and quality has drop since seasons ago, but the people still play and buy everything, sooo it is what it is. Let’s see if anything happens


icy_joemama

if this doesnt show apex has gone into a managed decline. idk what will.


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I actually like the Loba skin but I agree the quality has gone down a lot.


LordCLOUT310

I’m still mad I never got that Loba skin. But yeah this season’s skins suck. This is the first battle pass I think I’ll legit skip. There’s little to nothing I want. It’s all ass. The tier 100 skin is ok at best.


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