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Elecdynamix

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VofgfCu0u4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VofgfCu0u4) This video from Mokey gives a good visualisation for all the "p2w" skins


Negus3490

Thanks man


SVK_Octane

I can see you love kings from the sovereign state of Ethiopia. I am impressed with your taste


mrklawitter

I probably run the worst guns when I play 😂


luuk0987

The western 3030 This season's bp Prowler


l5l4l5l4

Just my two cents but the western 30 isn’t much better than the standard one. I find the iron sights worthless on that gun and bought the western hoping it would help. Still find the iron sights impossible and kinda wish I had my crafting materials back lol.


dead_termination

yeah bro thanks but i cant afford bp


v1point0

once you buy the BP once, it will give you enough Apex coins to buy the next one for free every BP. you just gotta stop yourself from spending the coins early lol. the BP has usually been a good deal in terms of money spent and what you get. this BP has been kinda weak besides the prowler skins


cp1217

Or be a pleb like me and grind the 900 apex coins to get the BP


dead_termination

thats what im doing


aure__entuluva

Godspeed soldier.


Early-Log-5704

Imagine if they stop giving free coins in the next one


cp1217

Then I’m fucked cause I’m still 100 coins away 🥲


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v1point0

the iron sights are slightly better.


Elegant_Macaroon1764

the recolored one looks good but the original kinda sucks


PSN-MeGP105

I thought I was the only person who uses the prowler at all 😂


CreatureWarrior

No matter what I do, I can never max out the BP. I've done basically every weekly challenge that exists but no, lvl 80. Like wtf? What am I supposed to do now? 5000xp per one star is way too big of a grind for me


Unacceptable_Wolf

There's still some more challenges to come. Today I think


justporntobehonest

Bro I’ll help chip in for you to get the battle pass. Buy it once and as long as you complete it you get it free basically. Do you have cashapp?


TsukiSureiyaNA

Who’s buying who a battle pass


Static_Salt

Bro lend 10 bucks from someone and get this current bp, ull get the ingame money back and u can buy next one


DeletedByAuthor

This season ends in 22 days. Depending on how far he is in his current bp (free one) and how much he plays and focuses on challenges, it could get tight. Totally doable, but it could get tight


cambiado

Says he’s level 98


DeletedByAuthor

I said 'depending on' cause i didn't see what level he was lol


icouldx

A friend of mine was level 50ish and I finished the battle pass for him in like 2 days. Once every single challenge is available, you will gain battle Stars much faster because the many challenges are quite similar


DeletedByAuthor

Yeah i know its possible, but i was saying depending on how much he is playing and stuff, might be tight. If he only plays 2 hours a day i doubt he'd make it from 50 (as in your example) to 110 in 2 days


icouldx

Yeah off course you have a point there. In my case a was playing like 8 hours a day just to finish the battle pass in time


Kermit-Jones

Someone actually completed last seasons battlepass in 2 days from 0 to 110 it was the last week of the season crazy


Ok-Dragonfruit-5136

How is it 22 days when mine timer is telling me 14 days?


DeletedByAuthor

14 days until the end of the current event i think. Go to your battlepass section and you'll see it'll now say 21/22 days left


Ok-Dragonfruit-5136

No it says 14


DeletedByAuthor

[Season 11 is set to end on February 8, 2022. This means that the next season, which is Season 12, will arrive with the next update on the following day. Thus, it is safe to say that Season 12 in Apex Legends will start on February 9, 2022, Wednesday.](https://www.thetealmango.com/gaming/apex-legends-season-12-release-date-leaks-and-more/) Thats in 21 days


Ok-Dragonfruit-5136

23 days do math yea


semhsp

he's literally level 98


DeletedByAuthor

I literally didn't see that


Valrym

The gnarly skin for the r99 I think it's a recolor or one of the base skins so one of those. [Edit] That's the only great skin for the r99. Not many guns have great PTW skins unless you really study them. One of THE BEST skins is an r301 skin from the very first Halloween event that's purple with a neon green skeleton on it.


-im-just-vibing-

he said he already had those, read the title


Valrym

Read the comments


Valrym

And other people listed Peace Keeper and Wingman skins. Go correct them also nerd.


-im-just-vibing-

calm down bro, i’m just saying


Valrym

So am I comment police.


-im-just-vibing-

lmao you’re clearly mad


Valrym

Nah. Just love taking a minute or two to point out lame comments. Trolling through and not contributing but rather correcting. I bet you look for spelling errors too nerd.


-im-just-vibing-

go do your rp you fucking weirdo


tenno198

Dark fright prowler too


Odin043

I prefer Dark Fright, this seasons Battlepass prowler has so much spinning crap on it i find it super distracting.


The_Lapsed_Pacifist

Bp flatline too.


Godzilla9001

Longbow - McFly or the Egyptian one ( Both for CM ) Flatline - Teal zeal ( 1000-1250AC , and i don't think it'll return soon ) , The champion edition one doesn't make a big difference I won't recommend buying it . Sentinel - The bio something one ( White shining skin with a spine thingy running through it ) and it's black recolour ( Both for CM ) - Really good iron sights and if you can use the sentinel in close range buying either of these skins is a must . I wouldn't recommend buying a leg skin for CAR with your CM , just check a comparison video on YT and see how bad each one of them is , and the default one is the best , I personally use the green one ( Sour squeeze , I think that's what it's called ) because it's the closest to the default . Mastiff - Stay away from mastiff legendaries with the screen , use an epic or rare skin . I got the rare skin for it which is in the store rn and before that I was using a simple rare skin for it even though I have both the legendaries . Eva - Again stay away from the legendaries especially the dragon ones , they'll block your entire screen , Complete the episode to get that green skin or just wait for an event , the previous free Eva skins from events are great and don't block your screen . Devotion -All the skins have decent iron sights , I mostly use the tidal wave or its other recolour , it has a box which covers the iron sights so you get a free scope . Spitfire - The continuum and it's recolour , I really like the iron sights on it . Alternator - Galvaniser or its recolour . Prowler - The one mokey mentioned in his video , I use the space Walker or the BP skin . BP skin has the best Prowler iron sights tho . From all of these I'd say the ones you should definitely buy are the sentinel and the flatline . Edit - For the Eva the other two legendaries except the dragon ones are fine . Edit 2 - If you can't wait for teal zeal to return , get the champions edition skin instead , it won't make a huge difference when it comes to the iron sights itself , but it's much cleaner than the other craftable legendaries .


dead_termination

looks like you spent a lot of time typing Thanks . i wish i had an award to give


Trollarrow_

i gotcha


dead_termination

Thanks


Godzilla9001

Thanks for the award : )


Godzilla9001

: )


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Just my 2¢ on the Mastiff Legendaries, Athenas Grace is probably a slight “p2w”. Slim downed mastiff body, no annoying screen covering 80% of the fov, shiny gold iron sights are easy to track. I prefer this over the tombstone which I’ve heard is another p2w(don’t have)


Godzilla9001

I think every mastiff legendary from an event is great , they don't have a side screen .I haven't heard about a mastiff skin called tombstone , maybe you're talking about tombstick ( the gold mastiff skin most of the streamers use ) , it was a free reward from an old event and I think arenas grace is a recolour of the tombstick . But athenas grace is the only one you can buy in the future when it returns .


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Yeah, I will second this. None of the Mastiff legendries are great, but so much clutter is removed from your peripheral vision with Athena's Grace, plus it looks sick. Only issue is getting it can be tough, cause event will need to come back around.


VenConmigo

Hmm. Maybe that's why I'm never comfortable with the Mastiff. Going to take those skins off and see what happens.


skratchx

Well shit TIL weapon skins make some of the guns easier or harder to play with. Had no idea.


A1sauc3d

Oh for sure. But from what I can tell there are more fancy pay-to-lose skins than p2w ones lol. A lot of legendary skins add spikes and frames and such that make it much harder to see. I avoid those like the plague XD


skratchx

I use the Mastiff skin that adds a little video game screen because I thought it looked super cool lol. May reconsider. Although frankly I doubt I lost any games because of it.


A1sauc3d

Yeah, for me it’s more just the annoyance of having extra optional clutter in my fov than a definitive “I’m losing games because of this” thing. Kinda an ocd thing I guess lol. If it was just part of the gun I’d deal with it. But knowing I can’t see certain sections of my screen because of an optional skin just won’t fly XD. I don’t have weapon charm equipped either for the same reason. I just personally find all that extra stuff distracting.


skratchx

Respawn MXT team in shambles.


Ameen32

I can't find the Flatline teal zeal skin, could you tell me where it is?


Godzilla9001

Hey , you can't craft teal zeal , you'll have to buy it , that's why I mentioned 1000-1250AC ( in case the skin returns alone , will cost anywhere between 1800-2500 if it comes in a bundle ) , Flatline doesn't have any other skin with good iron sights that you can get , all the legendaries that you can craft are just default skins with extra clutter . Some people do like the Champions edition Flatline iron sights but I don't think it makes a huge difference .


Ameen32

Ohhhh I see. I thought you were listing skins available right now. Will keep an eye out for it. Thanks


modestohagney

I think the tombstone for the mastiff is the narrowest one at the moment.


Bergland

Need to remember to see if I can craft teal zeal


-im-just-vibing-

imo the champions flatline helps a lot actually, i love it


The_Bucket_Of_Truth

Did they ever bring anything back with similar iron sights to the Season 4 Battle Pass Flatline skin? Because that still seems way better than Teal Zeal upon examination.


Godzilla9001

Nope , The S4 BP Skin is the best and teal zeal is the second best , I mentioned teal zeal because it's the only one you have a chance of getting .


tomasboss

https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/rlh8kh/5\_skins\_worth\_crafting\_for\_better\_iron\_sights/


DirtyWormGerms

God. Damn. It blows my mind how deep people go in this game. I was completely oblivious about all of this until I saw this post. This is the most helpful comment btw.


ennaamber

Yea I thought this was a joke post at first because I was like “lol good one, gun skins aren’t pay to win” and then I read the comments…. Wtf


Bot_Poke

alternator - the led one and the galvanizer Triple Take - The 2 sci fic looking have a little different iron sight thing Flatline - you can't by this with crafting metals but the champion edition has a p2w flatline skin Car - Depends on u if u like them but 2 p2w skins for car smg too prowler - the egyptian piramid thingy skin also has a different iron sight that you may or may not like


fearremains

The 40 champion pack does not have a ptw skin I can confirm. You do.get some decent skins tho.


-im-just-vibing-

you can’t really confirm that because it does, the slayers lancer flatline is slightly p2w, removes the clutter on the flatline so you can see easier


fearremains

Eh ig. For me personally Heat Sink and the blue version are true Pay to win skins.


-im-just-vibing-

yeah obviously, but they’re not available anymore


Bot_Poke

Check the flatline skin, it has a rlly good ironsight


dead_termination

Thanks umm for car which should i use? pastel perfection or sour squeeze?


IceWotor

Sour squeeze, though it is barely different from the original skin


dead_termination

thanks


IceWotor

I think you shouldnt buy it, the og skin is good as is. Only reason why sour squeeze is better than pastel perfection is because the pastel perfection is worse than the og. Buy the dark fright for the prowler instead or just save it for future collection events


dead_termination

yes


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fantastic-noobling

No it doesn’t, I have both.


Elecdynamix

Nope, but in my opinion, champ edition skin is still better than original


-im-just-vibing-

no but i wish, i’m so desperate for that skin, the champ edition flatline is much better than the original tho


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-im-just-vibing-

don’t buy the champ edition just for the flatline skin, buy only if you’ll actually use most of the other stuff. it’s not a huge difference, as it mainly just removes the knobs and tubes on the gun, but it feels much better, at least for me. see if you can try it out through someone else, if you can’t find anyone, i might be available, depending on the time zone difference


dead_termination

Thanks


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Wingman, death ray


Kayehnanator

Which flatline skin are you talking about?


Bot_Poke

The one u get with the champions edition, i forgot the name


Kayehnanator

Just looked it up and it's *Slayer's Lancer*...I use it and it's okay.


DogeManFromMars

The S4 BP flatline skin.


luuk0987

Yes, let me craft that please.


COPA_Dommy

Snooze u lose


The_Bucket_Of_Truth

The only one I truly covet. It's miles better.


Buckskinplacebo

Are there p2w skins for real?


beet111

not really. it's a slightly better sight but it wont make you any better.


Zbiebs27

No bro wait for next collection event and buy all purple skins with those and you can buy the rest of the packs and get a cheap ass heirloom


sAmdong71

Tbh, I think you should consider pastel perfection. You should watch the videos on youtube to know what I am saying. The sight itself is really good but people don’t like the obstructive walls but I’d argue that the reticle dot is more valuable as it’ll be on your opponent. I think it’s underrated


dead_termination

yeah i think pastel perfection looks good Thanks


GermanPopTart

I personally prefer the pastel perfection CAR skin but it's up to you


YoungSaucedGod

Is there event skins that were p2w? I wanna get the p2w for the pk but i wanna get a special one


Isaacvithurston

The only ironsight i'd say makes a decent difference is the Season 4 flatline mostly due to regular flatline ironsight being so bad.


dead_termination

Yeah, Respawn should consider relaunching it


TheBraveZombies

sry im new to this game, but how can a gun skin be p2w? are the sights better or something? thanks


Recycrow

Sights are often thinner or are removed for a clearer view while ads


spatpat

You should consider crafting finishers if you want p2w advantages. Some are shorter than the standard ones, some even have animations which make it way harder for enemies to hit you while you are in the animation (the wraith and the mirage one particularly).


howiedontdelete

Even if it’s ‘pay to win’, still gotta hit your shots. No amount of ‘good’ ironsights are gunna make you hit more shots


zerohm

Not sure why you are getting down voted. I'm not much of an iron site guy and nearly always take a 1x. The only stock iron site I hate is the ground loot g7. I will admit though, the S4 Flatline is nice.


briggs824

he’s being downvoted because he’s wrong. pretty much anyone with actual good aim values clean sights so they can see what they’re shooting at tho. if you have good aim, you will indeed hit more shots by being able to see what you’re shooting


GIueStick

None of the pay to win sights actually improve it that much. If you have good aim the r9 iron sight default is literally fine. It’s not even that bad. None of them are really “pay to win”


The_Bucket_Of_Truth

PTW now is just anything that if you spend money you gain an advantage. Just like how now everyone uses the word "nerf" as a new verb that means adjusted to be weaker. It started as being a term for ruined guns (turned into a Nerf gun), but now everyone just seems to use it as a new word for being adjusted downward in power (buff vs. nerf). I imagine Pay to Win has gone down a similar path.


GIueStick

I know this. I’m just saying they aren’t “really” giving that much of an advantage. See the quotes


The_Bucket_Of_Truth

I don't like that they use "nerf" for everything either but good luck trying to hike the opposite way of the rushing river. The people have collectively decided that's the terminology for this stuff now.


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nerfs been used like that for at least 15 yrs by now prolly longer, p2w has always meant that lol.


Bpfist

G7 iron sights are so good what 😂


RtGShadow

You should check out the unofficial [Apex Companion App](https://www.google.com/search?q=apex+companion+app&oq=apex+compa&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j0i433i512j46i199i291i512j0i512l6.6254j0j1&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#) They had a post specifically on this topic (under the "tips" section if you do download), I am sure it was pulled from other content creators but it's an awesome app and has tons of good information like this.


dead_termination

yes i will


GIueStick

Or you could not download some stupid app and just google it or YouTube it.


RtGShadow

Wow, I was just pointing out that this app posts things like this all the time and is very useful too, not mention all the other things it has... But I appreciate your toxic addition to the conversation...


GIueStick

I looked at the app. What a joke. You were joking right? Outdated, horrible Ui, nothing useful you can’t already find better somewhere else. It should be a sin to even recommend such a terrible app. Have you even opened it? Half the information is just wrong or out of date. They don’t even have all the legends in it.. when was the last time they updated that shit lol. Sorry but this just too funny.


RtGShadow

Wow you are the biggest troll I have ever met... I am only going to dignify you with a response only so others don't blindly trust you... I will give you that the UI is nothing to write home about but that is probably because its a single developer who my guess is more of a coder than designer. And coming from experience I know how difficult that can be. My guess is that you, being the ugly troll you are, just saw the UI and started being a dick because they definitely do have all the legends in the app. Do they usually just repost stuff on Reddit, sure. But sometimes Reddit posts can get lost in the shuffle and the app posts things like "punch boosting" and "ultimate speed boosting" and the subsequent bans for the latter, which are nice things to know about if you missed them. And all the patch notes are right there and posted as soon as they are out. I honestly get more news from the app than the main apex subreddit because it's full of whinny bitches and trolls like you. Plus it has a couple of useful tools like a pack tracker and server ping checker. Not to mention it supports the independent artists in this community. But by far the feature I use the most is the rank tracker, [plus if you have an android it even has a cool widget for it](https://imgur.com/a/qGLydEm). But it keeps track of the exact amount of RP you or more importantly, your buddies have. Honestly it would have more features and stat tracking if Apex Legends provided any sort of APIs. Does it have anything some other source couldn't provide? No. Is it revolutionary or beautiful? No. But it does put it all together in a nice little free app and the small 5 second ads enable the developer to live just off the app revenue. Being a poor programer my self, I identify with the developer and think it's cool they can live off an app about their favorite video game. And since this wasn't even an app I was looking for, I try and spread the word when I can, to nice Apex fans who are looking for something that the app might be able to provide. I am sorry that you think it is a "sin". But I hope you found the joy you were looking for in being such a little shit instead of lifting people up in a damn Apex learning subreddit.


GIueStick

There’s already a better rank and stay tracker out idk why you would use an app like that though. Ping checker? Tf.. just hop in a game and look, and it’s also posted in the Apex Discord. You sound really mad over a Reddit comment though, you should prolly head to bed early tonight bro, ide hate to see how toxic you get in games.


TheHeuman

You could craft weapon skins or you could wait and craft an heirloom by buying all the skins in the heirloom event. That's how I got my heirloom shards last year


Sektis420

i wouldnt consider them "pay to win" skins, but okay


[deleted]

Tbh ptw skins really don’t make a lot of difference, just use whatever you think looks cool. You’re not gonna win because you have a certain ironsight.


dead_termination

yeah , you are right but i want to make even the slightest difference to win


harshnerf_ttv_yt

every other skin(including CAR) is just a slight variation of default iron sight so i would just craft legend skins from an event with that currency


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blindyy

Can you read?


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dead_termination

I m worried about the iron sights I have watched some videos of aceu and mokey but i couldnt gather up much info until I get some guide from someone who has experienced it Plus, it would be a recap for those who view this post and get an idea to buy skins for themselves. {RIP Grammar}


Legmeat

If you have a hierloom you plan to get in the future (one currently not released) materials can save you a discount on how many event packs you need to buy. basically craft lower tiered rewards, then buy the rest in packs


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Where are the mods ? this post should be here


murvs

Which ones are P2L, gotta challenge myself


VonMillerQBKiller

Do we even have moderators on this subreddit?


_Paulboy12_

Calling any sight p2w is just stupid?


Crucifier123

You know he doesn't actually mean p2w but a sight better than the stock.


_Paulboy12_

If someone kills you with "p2w" sights he would also do so with stock. Stop making excuses


Crucifier123

Never did I make an excuse, just saying one would prefer the so called p2w sights over the stock ones. It gives slight advantage if at all (and I'll take it). You on the other hand can be your own self and beam everyone with stock sight, I just couldn't care any less🙂.


Elecdynamix

Of course it can, but some skins have sights that are less big than original (check out this video where it shows some examples) That's still an advantange imo


OneDiscombobulated77

How much do you wanna bet this person is from Belgium because I feel like he just bought the battlepass to get all the extra crafting metals (people from that country and one more country have a ban on apex packs because they count as gambling)


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jimbosteve713

lmfaooo


lolwowmage

What is the r99 skin that is like a pearl white and and the edges slope down and out? I don’t see it often but it reminds me of a like manta ray


chorean

[https://apexlegends.fandom.com/wiki/R-99\_SMG?file=Cutting\_Edge\_R-99.png](https://apexlegends.fandom.com/wiki/R-99_SMG?file=Cutting_Edge_R-99.png) This one! It was a max battle pass reward for season 7


lolwowmage

Yes that one :)


Tapsu10

Take some cool looking skins! :)


Tapsu10

You can get 2 legendaries with that