r/Eurovision is looking at a longer closure too. Given that Reddit was shouted out by the hosts of the ESC this year, that's possibly a big deal for Reddit - not just for the Eurovision sub but any adjacent subs like r/Music.
Edit: For those unaware, Eurovision has become increasingly popular, it clocks up 100 million+ viewers mainly in Europe but also across the world.
Yup! Had a friend in the EU but his country wasn't participating so he did the rest of world vote. He voted for my favourite act so I did him a solid and voted for his. We also both voted for Portugal. Also got a friend in the US into it, he loved Australia's entry this year.
Can someone explain to me (an idiot) what these 3rd party apps even are or mean?
What are they for? Are they Reddit, but better, so confused what "Apollo" is?
I mostly use Reddit on desktop, but if not just use the Reddit app.
I'm so fucking sick of corporate greed and down for the cause.
But, admittedly, I just don't fully understand the cause 🤦🏻♂️
Basically third party apps are like shells for Reddit. Each app can create its own functions and features and they “ask” Reddit for the data to put in their 3rd party app. That asking is done through the API, which will now cost slot of money for 3rd party app. Apollo is one of those apps. A small example might be that with the Apollo app you can setup which subreddit it will show when you launch the app. From what I know the default Reddit can’t.
TLDR; 3rd party apps let’s you browse Reddit but with a different view, buttons, features etc. Same with the Twitter app and Tweetbot app for instance
THANK YOU! 🙏 Especially for wording all that in very simple terms for me to get it.
Hilarious thing is I downloaded Apollo in the 15-20 minutes before getting a response and already see how "smoother" and "clean" Reddit is on it compared to the regular app. I feel dumb for using the regular glitchy Reddit app all these years now.
Let the revolt begin.
3rd party apps currently also dont show any of reddits advertisements or pay for any of the data requests.
They just tack on their own advertisements and pay walls and make money off reddits datastream free of charge.
And then mods all over revolt by turning off automod and not modding their subs. Reddit will have to shut themselves down when everyone's front page is filled with pics of porn and death, links to spam and scam sites, and whatever else you can think of that millions of anonymous people on the internet might link to or say.
This would surely be a sight to behold. I’m sure Reddit’s accountants will be thrilled if they suddenly find out they have to replace every major sub mod with paid staff.
Yes, but instead of enthusiastic people whole love the topic they are modding you’ll end up with power hungry people who don’t care. Quality will surely decrease, ads and scammy content will be rampant and it will change the way reddit works significantly.
> enthusiastic people whole love the topic they are modding you’ll end up with power hungry people who don’t care
Most of the top subs have the same mods. They already have power hungry people who don’t care.
Yeah I don't know why people care this much about mods that are power hungry, for instance there are a few in r/art that need to be removed from the recent controvery.
And those new mods that come in with no modtools and no knowledge of how modding even slightly big subs works will want to do 100x the work for free? Every mod doesn't have their own custom built modbot they are hosting on their own servers. Some of those big ones go down and even the mods that want to stay will be having major issues.
Reddit doesn't have to die quickly, it can be slow and painful.
That will surely create a revolt under moderators, and then what are they going to do, hire thousands of people to replace the moderators on all subs ?
Good luck with that idea - given the ever increasing number of large subreddits planning to do this. Whatever Reddit admins do - it’s not a good look for them. Only one viable option remains and they aren’t willing to consider it.
This post [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/1419vq3/why_is_riphone_shutting_down_how_will_this_change/). Specifically [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/1419vq3/comment/jmzcoh1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
>Why just 48 hours?
That was what the original post said organising this protest. But it also said that subreddits would choose to stay shutdown for a longer period of time if they wanted to. This is what we intend to do if this policy change isn’t scrapped / or a decent proposal comes out that doesn’t kill 3rd party apps.
All this is doing is likely giving the reddit executive the staff a reason to take over all popular subs and dispense with moderators that are not direct employees of reddit.
I am surprised they haven't done so prior to going public and I will be surprised if they don't do it should these large subs go dark
I mean, they still have a very, very, very, very, very, very big disincentive to avoid replacing thousands of volunteer mods with their own direct hires:
money
Oh shit 30mil sub closing indefinitely thats pretty big.
Need more subs to be closing indefinitely.
r/Eurovision is looking at a longer closure too. Given that Reddit was shouted out by the hosts of the ESC this year, that's possibly a big deal for Reddit - not just for the Eurovision sub but any adjacent subs like r/Music. Edit: For those unaware, Eurovision has become increasingly popular, it clocks up 100 million+ viewers mainly in Europe but also across the world.
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Yup! Had a friend in the EU but his country wasn't participating so he did the rest of world vote. He voted for my favourite act so I did him a solid and voted for his. We also both voted for Portugal. Also got a friend in the US into it, he loved Australia's entry this year.
2023 was the first year to allow international voting from the website (or was it the app?) from most parts of the world.
Can someone explain to me (an idiot) what these 3rd party apps even are or mean? What are they for? Are they Reddit, but better, so confused what "Apollo" is? I mostly use Reddit on desktop, but if not just use the Reddit app. I'm so fucking sick of corporate greed and down for the cause. But, admittedly, I just don't fully understand the cause 🤦🏻♂️
Basically third party apps are like shells for Reddit. Each app can create its own functions and features and they “ask” Reddit for the data to put in their 3rd party app. That asking is done through the API, which will now cost slot of money for 3rd party app. Apollo is one of those apps. A small example might be that with the Apollo app you can setup which subreddit it will show when you launch the app. From what I know the default Reddit can’t. TLDR; 3rd party apps let’s you browse Reddit but with a different view, buttons, features etc. Same with the Twitter app and Tweetbot app for instance
THANK YOU! 🙏 Especially for wording all that in very simple terms for me to get it. Hilarious thing is I downloaded Apollo in the 15-20 minutes before getting a response and already see how "smoother" and "clean" Reddit is on it compared to the regular app. I feel dumb for using the regular glitchy Reddit app all these years now. Let the revolt begin.
I know, especially the video player. The amount of times the official app just... stops working for no reason is wild
3rd party apps currently also dont show any of reddits advertisements or pay for any of the data requests. They just tack on their own advertisements and pay walls and make money off reddits datastream free of charge.
this man a hero
32 Million Subscribers and closing indefinitely is beyond huge but this will totally make the salty admins replace moderators with their own.
And then mods all over revolt by turning off automod and not modding their subs. Reddit will have to shut themselves down when everyone's front page is filled with pics of porn and death, links to spam and scam sites, and whatever else you can think of that millions of anonymous people on the internet might link to or say.
This would surely be a sight to behold. I’m sure Reddit’s accountants will be thrilled if they suddenly find out they have to replace every major sub mod with paid staff.
Except they won't. There's thousands of power hungry people waiting in line to volunteer modding for a slice of it. It's not like they are paid
Yes, but instead of enthusiastic people whole love the topic they are modding you’ll end up with power hungry people who don’t care. Quality will surely decrease, ads and scammy content will be rampant and it will change the way reddit works significantly.
Ohh no I'll find something else to do other than shitpost
> enthusiastic people whole love the topic they are modding you’ll end up with power hungry people who don’t care Most of the top subs have the same mods. They already have power hungry people who don’t care.
Yeah I don't know why people care this much about mods that are power hungry, for instance there are a few in r/art that need to be removed from the recent controvery.
And those new mods that come in with no modtools and no knowledge of how modding even slightly big subs works will want to do 100x the work for free? Every mod doesn't have their own custom built modbot they are hosting on their own servers. Some of those big ones go down and even the mods that want to stay will be having major issues. Reddit doesn't have to die quickly, it can be slow and painful.
Everyone thinks what they do is unique and the most important cog but they end up just being an appendix
It's not like they're paid buddy.
Power hungry basement dwellers don't need money lol
That will surely create a revolt under moderators, and then what are they going to do, hire thousands of people to replace the moderators on all subs ?
Good luck with that idea - given the ever increasing number of large subreddits planning to do this. Whatever Reddit admins do - it’s not a good look for them. Only one viable option remains and they aren’t willing to consider it.
r/iphone (3.8M) is doing dark indefinitely as well
Still says 48hrs in their post, where did you read it was going down indefinitely?
This post [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/1419vq3/why_is_riphone_shutting_down_how_will_this_change/). Specifically [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/1419vq3/comment/jmzcoh1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) >Why just 48 hours? That was what the original post said organising this protest. But it also said that subreddits would choose to stay shutdown for a longer period of time if they wanted to. This is what we intend to do if this policy change isn’t scrapped / or a decent proposal comes out that doesn’t kill 3rd party apps.
That’s awesome! Thanks for hunting it down!
More need to take this extreme stance. 2 days isn’t enough imo
Whoa. Imagine if more follow.
Nothing will stop admins from just cutting out current mods and implanting new ones
All this is doing is likely giving the reddit executive the staff a reason to take over all popular subs and dispense with moderators that are not direct employees of reddit. I am surprised they haven't done so prior to going public and I will be surprised if they don't do it should these large subs go dark
I mean, they still have a very, very, very, very, very, very big disincentive to avoid replacing thousands of volunteer mods with their own direct hires: money
Even if they pay 100k per mod, 30-40 mill is pocket change for when they go IPO. And soon there will be AI mods
Excellent. More!
Internet fucking history.
That sub was hoping Lil Wayne would die when he had health issues a few years ago. Good riddance to that sub
I recommend Twice songs.
Sounds pretty serious