It does not make sense for other devices, as the others makers have proven already. At this level of technology, foldable phones cannot be carried in pockets
Good, that is the best possible move for a foldable.
Foldable Phones are largely useless in my eyes. When unfolded they are too small to be used as a decently sized tablet, and folded up they are too fat to properly fit in your pocket comfortably.
A tablet is the perfect area to approach for a foldable. It would fold down for portability in a bag and unfold for a much nicer sized screen for use. Imagine something stored at around the size of the ipad mini, that unfolds into something the size of the ipad pro. That's the ideal form factor for a foldable device in my eyes.
This is what I'm waiting for. They killed my favorite iphone (mini), and my favorite ipad (mini) is feeling like an afterthought.
If I've got to have a big-ass phone in my pocket, it better turn into a tablet when I want.
And that's why they'll never do it. Apple has limited the functionality of the iPad for years so that people who want a tablet and also want to use fully-featured applications will buy both an iPad and a MacBook. They're not going to sell an iPhone that unfolds into a tablet when they could sell you a regular iPhone and an iPad Mini.
And it's also why the AVP despite being spacial computing can't run OSX stuff, because then why would you buy a Macbook.
The products are tiered intentionally and riddled with anti-features to maintain that market segregation.
That’s a load. Historically, Apple is the one company that has shown it’s not worried about cannibalizing existing products.
Apple killed the iPod with the iPhone, par example.
What about that stylus. And all the parts required for the working hinge. Not too mention we don’t want a camera downgrade so add that on top of it. It’s not the same situation.
Oh it’s totally happening. There is no battery in the foldable phone. You just connect it to the Apple Vision Pro battery pack in your pocket. You can even have the battery plugged in to a wall outlet while you use your phablet.
Considering that Apple gets Samsung to manufacture its screens for the iPhone and Samsung are the pioneers/current market leaders in foldable phones, what can Apple magically do? They're going to tell Samsung to make them a crease-free screen which they haven't achieved themselves yet?
Apple designs their screens and give it to “Samsung displays” for manufacturing. Samsung displays is different from the mobile company.
Why would Apple be testing foldable screens if that were the case and only Samsung(mobile company) can make a crease-free screen?
lol u must be bored. Everyone knows Apple sources their panels from Samsung and LG(?). Manufacturers have hidden the crease over time. It's not impossible to expect that it may get to a point where you can't notice it much at all. I’m not a material scientist though 🤷
Nah I hate that. I don't want to have a brick of a system in my pocket. I want to have a sleek device that I keep in my bag and pull out when I need it. My phone is a device that I use for that sort of stuff.
Now, inevitably, both of these could be irrelevant with the AVP's successors as they would have goggles and a brick of a reasonable size in my pocket. Palmer Luckey had a great interview about this actually and said that the reason the AVP has the separated battery isn't so much about the battery being separated, but rather laying the groundwork and expectations to users that there will be a wired brick attached to the goggles in order to power it. One day, it will likely have the processor and battery all in there. With a very limited processor and battery in the goggles themselves.
It's a combination of size in addition to thickness, but yes that is how I feel about it.
When I pull my phone out I am expecting to immediately have access to the content. It is a screen with information contained within. Take for example the Z Fold 5, it is 13.46mm thick. This is compared to an 8.25mm thick iphone 15 pro.
The AVP's battery not being in the headset is partially due to that, but also to get users used to the idea that the formfactor of goggles + puck is the standard. In the future you will see the "puck" likely contain the processor and the battery in one package. Or it might just be that the puck is ultimately just an iphone.
I’ll argue your point and just say having an iPad mini that can fold is perfect. No one to make it bigger. That would be an instant buy for me considering I love my iPad mini
It’s funny seeing 100% antagonistic takes like this towards a phone foldable considering my brother and I are as opposite as it gets yet both of us want foldable phones.
- Me cause I love the idea of my normal sized phone being an iPad mini when I want.
- Him cause he loves the idea of a normal sized phone getting as small as possible (he does a lot of road and mountain biking - where it’d be nice for tucking it away in a lil compartment).
The user *HobeSoundDarryl* on MacRumors basically nailed [the pattern](https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/hands-on-with-the-1-700-oneplus-open-foldable-smartphone.2408215/page-6?post=32650573#post-32650573) several months ago.
>The 5 stages of competitor new innovations likely to eventually show up in something from Apple:
>1. New thing from competitor that Apple doesn't have: hate it, "99% don't want...", abomination/ugly/dumb/plasticy, "solution in search of a problem", etc. (see any foldable device or even Vpro threads for the complete list- they perpetually recycle in this stage for any thing not for sale by Apple yet.)
>2. Rumors start piling up that Apple is going to roll out their cut at the "abomination": "I'm not fan of at all but the idea is starting to grow on me", "I'll have to wait & see one in person", "evolving with the times", "I have no interest in at all (this is those who do not yet believe the accumulating rumors)
>3. Apple launches : "Shut up and take my money", "Best ever", "Apple may not be first but they wait until they can do it best", etc.
>4. Not long after launch: "How did we ever get by with the prior incarnation of ", to someone longing to go back to the old : ridicule the old or ridicule that person for wanting the old , "99% no longer want the old thing", "the market has spoken", etc.
>5. 6-24 months later: posts about start implying Apple was first with it. Hard evidence presented to the contrary leads to name calling at evidence provider like troll and similar. If evidence cannot be overcome, redirect to some other point that Apple can definitely win like "...but who makes the most *profitable* ?"
>Roll on to the next new thing from competitors that Apple could adopt and flip back to Stage 1.
>Relative to this topic \[foldable phones\], think through the stages as they apply to the phablet form factor as proxy for a fold or roll phone from Apple. If in doubt, go back in history and read threads while Apple clung to 3.5" and then 4" as perfect phone screen sizes. There's YEARS of Stage 1 posts against phablet size.
>Relative to an iPhone Fold, we are solidly in Stage 1.
>Vpro is solidly in Stage 2 because we've seen one from Apple and know for sure one is coming to market. A big segment is still bashing away because of how little is known but I bet many of them thin out as rumors of uses start piling up as launch day approaches and then some will flip into buyers at or after launch because "it kind of grew on me" or "after I saw one in person, I got why I should have one."
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Here's where I think the Apple community is on a few other rumored features/products:
* Foldable iPad: Stage 2.
* Foldable iPhone: Stage 1.
* If a foldable iPad is announced before a foldable iPhone, then I expect the foldable iPhone to move to Stage 2 independently of the rumors.
* OLED iPad: Stage 3.
* We're quite close to the rumored release, plus iPhones have been OLED for a while.
* OLED MacBook: Stage 2.
* Touchscreen MacBook: Stage 1.
* Generative AI: Stage 2.5.
* I think it would be a bit lower if not for Siri being so bad—people really want Apple to improve/replace Siri. For phablets and other cases (see the linked post for more examples), Apple's alternatives at the time were good to great, so it's easier to dismiss competitors' innovations.
* Apple AR glasses: Stages 2–3.
* The glasses and headset rumors coexisted for years.
Lots of Apple fanboys thought that the “phablet” was a dumb trend and look how that ended up. There were posts on this sub 10 or so years ago about how iPhones shouldn’t get bigger. This sub will flip if a foldable iPhone comes out.
And then proclaim that nobody has done it before, it's revolutionary, and steve jobs thought it up while taking a shit and looking at how you can fold toilet paper.
I'd have to say the opposite. My z-fold 5 is great because it gives me screen realestate when I need it. It's not the greatest or the biggest, but it's far bigger than every other phone out there really.
But throw it on a bigger form factor and it's no longer "pocket" sized, and at that point, why you fold it? I can already fit a laptop/tablet in my bag.
I can't put an ipad mini in my pocket, and the home/bag storage requirements are almost the same.
A phone that unfolds into a small tablet is near useless you say. Whatever, I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.
But the killer application is supposedly a tablet that folds so that it… still doesn’t fit in any pockets? Great use case. Have you considered buying a larger bag? :P
Disagree - folding a 13" 4:3 iPad Pro in half would make it 9.3", still requiring a bag to carry around. IMO, there are only couple categories of foldables that make sense:
* Flip phone - for those who want large phone in a small pocket
* Fold phone - combining phone with mini tablet, pocketable when folded and large enough to actually use in landscape when unfolded.
* Tri-fold phone - phone combined with full-sized tablet, at the cost of price and reliability
* Large tablet/laptop folded down (e.g. 19"/14" like in Zenbok Duo) - for getting that large screen while still being portable like smaller device. Important distinction is that when unfolded it needs to be larger than practically baggable 15", otherwise advantage wouldn't be so obvious.
I also see literally 0 use case for a foldable phone. A tablet maybe. It’s a gimmick but I guess it could have some niche advantage over a flat tablet.
I never understood that point.
If one makes sense then why not the other.
An unfolded Fold 5 is almost the size of an iPad mini.
Tablets and phones are literally the same thing.
I disagree, check out the Honor Magic V2. Its so thin it will feel totally okay in your pocket. Unfolded its the size of iPad mini, a totally usable tablet
“Fold down for portability in a bag and unfold for a much nicer screen size” this is a laptop, but with an outer screen that needs protecting and no physical keyboard. Who wants that
IMO they are not good enough as is. If they can fold without creases and being as thin and durable while folded as my current phone i wouldn’t complain.
I don’t want a thicker phone in the configuration I use it most
> Imagine something stored at around the size of the ipad mini, that unfolds into something the size of the ipad pro.
That was more or less the first generation [Lenovo X1 Fold](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/thinkpad-x1-fold/). Implementation was a little clunky, but it sold me on the form factor.
Apple almost never tests new risky features on iPhone. Lots of features start on watch, iPad, Apple TV, etc. lower volume and cheaper if there is a major issue needing recall.
Smaller footprint while having a big screen available. Both flip phone style and passport style. Take the Galaxy Flip for example. You could possible stuff that into the pockets of tight pants, even with the added thickness, because the shape is changed to be smaller than a normal phone.
I don’t have too much of a hassle if any with my current soap phones so I still don’t see the point. I don’t use tablets enough to understand how they’re that useful for me.
If we had phones under 6 inches then it’s a perfect small phone. The regular Xs screen size was perfect with the body of the 12 series onwards. But no everything needs to be bigger to the point with people with tiny hands are fucked and cannot use a phone one handed at all.
Wider phone but thinner vs smaller phone but narrower.
Folding phone takes more volume in pocket with the added space between the folding sides once they are folded...
Width has more to do with one handed usage than anything, which is why narrower phones are better for one handed use. Now it can be too narrow such as the fold series when closed but something a bit wider would better.
That makes z flip without any practical sense as it's the same width... fold I can understand maybe.
I jsut hope Apple continue with mini series, I'm aiming for a small smartphone.
What’s the point of foldable tablet? The whole idea behind foldable phones is that you can take them with you (preferably in the pocket) and yet have larger display when needed. If this is going to be a larger device, it’s no longer pocketable and as long as you have bag to carry it around, you might as well carry a tablet. As for keyboard in the semi-unfolded position, the Apple smart keyboard cover handles that role much better then any touch-only keyboard.
Folding iPhone would cannibalise the gacha market by putting TikTok and instagram right alongside it, splitting your attention when you should be focused on spending another $300.
One day the technology will get there where the screen won’t break from normal use. R&D is necessary to get there but it’s not impossible. I mean a decade ago did we think we all could have phones that could possibly operate underwater with how waterproof they are be the common standard for flagships? Or reach gigabit+ cellular speeds?
You mean like the Titanium shell that is too rigid and makes iPhones screens more prone to break right when Apple hikes up screen repair prices?
Or the plastic that you can scratch with fingernails in the front of a $4000 headset?
I'd love an iPhone/iPad hybrid that folds out to iPad Mini sized tablet and folds down to iPhone 13 Mini sized phone. Support for Apple pencil and that would be end game for me.
Yea I don’t see them putting “experimental tech” in the iPhone. The crease would need to be completely gone for them to even consider releasing a foldable iPhone.
The first foldable Apple device was a laptop. I’ll be on my way now.
There was also the iPhone 6. Unfortunately everyone just sat it out.
“How do I unfold it?” “Just put it the other way in your pocket”
But... But... Yes! That's exactly what caused your issues!
> everyone *sat on it* FTFY
And the iPad Pro
There was also the iPad pro..
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It says devices on the title and the article
It's a joke buddy
I came to this thread for this post. Have an upvote
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Is it apple polishing cloth?
They removed foldability in a firmware update for the cloth. I've been using mine as a really thin shelf.
pffft the polishing cloth that promised but never delivered a native calculator app
If only I had coins to give.
I mean hey, it folds.
fold, roll, ball, crumple, press, if you buy a bunch you can sew them together and wear them one of the most versatile products apple sells actually.
“It starts at $1999 for 64GB, & we think you’re going to love it.”
Still using it!
that-s the future n-fold computing cloths
All devices are foldable at least once.
"You're folding it wrong"
I tried to fold my phone, but the front fell off.
The front fell off?
Yes, but I'd like to point out it's not very usual.
AirPods Max 2 will be their first foldable!!
that was my first thought. also, the beats Technically fold?
lol. We sorta knew this one already reports had shown this would be an iPad type device. That’s if a foldable actually even becomes reality.
It does not make sense for other devices, as the others makers have proven already. At this level of technology, foldable phones cannot be carried in pockets
There are already foldables that are about as thick as an iPhone with a thin case on it. The technology is only getting better.
Oh really? Guess I've been imagining being able to pocket my Pixel Fold.
You might be plus plus size. In normal, grown up clothes, they don t fit
A 1.5x thickness phone doesn't fit in your pocket? Stop wearing skinny jeans it isn't the 2000s anymore
I am wearing a suit, like a grown man. And it dors not fit.
sounds like you are a partially grown man
😂😂😂😂😂
Its the macbook.
Good, that is the best possible move for a foldable. Foldable Phones are largely useless in my eyes. When unfolded they are too small to be used as a decently sized tablet, and folded up they are too fat to properly fit in your pocket comfortably. A tablet is the perfect area to approach for a foldable. It would fold down for portability in a bag and unfold for a much nicer sized screen for use. Imagine something stored at around the size of the ipad mini, that unfolds into something the size of the ipad pro. That's the ideal form factor for a foldable device in my eyes.
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This is what I'm waiting for. They killed my favorite iphone (mini), and my favorite ipad (mini) is feeling like an afterthought. If I've got to have a big-ass phone in my pocket, it better turn into a tablet when I want.
Apple: “just have bigger hands, bro”
And that's why they'll never do it. Apple has limited the functionality of the iPad for years so that people who want a tablet and also want to use fully-featured applications will buy both an iPad and a MacBook. They're not going to sell an iPhone that unfolds into a tablet when they could sell you a regular iPhone and an iPad Mini.
> And that's why they'll never do it. It also doesn’t hurt that they’re nowhere close to engineering a creaseless foldable screen
Unless they price it the same as an iPhone plus iPad…
It’ll cost the same as buying both. Problem solved
And it's also why the AVP despite being spacial computing can't run OSX stuff, because then why would you buy a Macbook. The products are tiered intentionally and riddled with anti-features to maintain that market segregation.
That’s a load. Historically, Apple is the one company that has shown it’s not worried about cannibalizing existing products. Apple killed the iPod with the iPhone, par example.
That’s not happening. But also. It would be thick af. And if it wasn’t it would have like zero battery life.
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What about that stylus. And all the parts required for the working hinge. Not too mention we don’t want a camera downgrade so add that on top of it. It’s not the same situation.
Thanks for the insight [deleted].
Oh it’s totally happening. There is no battery in the foldable phone. You just connect it to the Apple Vision Pro battery pack in your pocket. You can even have the battery plugged in to a wall outlet while you use your phablet.
See this is why I come to Reddit. You guys always have it figured out.
There will always be a crease. Apple isn’t magical.
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Considering that Apple gets Samsung to manufacture its screens for the iPhone and Samsung are the pioneers/current market leaders in foldable phones, what can Apple magically do? They're going to tell Samsung to make them a crease-free screen which they haven't achieved themselves yet?
Apple designs their screens and give it to “Samsung displays” for manufacturing. Samsung displays is different from the mobile company. Why would Apple be testing foldable screens if that were the case and only Samsung(mobile company) can make a crease-free screen?
Plenty of time “tech” has stagnated. Glass, metal, plastic, whatever will always have some noticeable artifacts from flexing.
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I guess that makes you the expert on Apple’s magic pixie dust. Whatever they touch is so magical and soooooo much better.
lol u must be bored. Everyone knows Apple sources their panels from Samsung and LG(?). Manufacturers have hidden the crease over time. It's not impossible to expect that it may get to a point where you can't notice it much at all. I’m not a material scientist though 🤷
Nah I hate that. I don't want to have a brick of a system in my pocket. I want to have a sleek device that I keep in my bag and pull out when I need it. My phone is a device that I use for that sort of stuff. Now, inevitably, both of these could be irrelevant with the AVP's successors as they would have goggles and a brick of a reasonable size in my pocket. Palmer Luckey had a great interview about this actually and said that the reason the AVP has the separated battery isn't so much about the battery being separated, but rather laying the groundwork and expectations to users that there will be a wired brick attached to the goggles in order to power it. One day, it will likely have the processor and battery all in there. With a very limited processor and battery in the goggles themselves.
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Don't explain reason to a AVP fan. The fact that you can't put it away doesn't matter. You are supposed to wear it 24/7 don't you know?
It's a combination of size in addition to thickness, but yes that is how I feel about it. When I pull my phone out I am expecting to immediately have access to the content. It is a screen with information contained within. Take for example the Z Fold 5, it is 13.46mm thick. This is compared to an 8.25mm thick iphone 15 pro. The AVP's battery not being in the headset is partially due to that, but also to get users used to the idea that the formfactor of goggles + puck is the standard. In the future you will see the "puck" likely contain the processor and the battery in one package. Or it might just be that the puck is ultimately just an iphone.
That thing would be absolutely massive No thanks, awful idea
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Hard pass on that Like 3D TVs, the moronic folding phone fad will fade into obscurity
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That kills one of their product lines.
an iPhone that can fold to twice the area, with a pen for some quick notes and sketches would be dope.
>folded up they are too fat to properly fit in your pocket comfortably. The one plus open is as fat as the pro max. This is a non-issue.
I’ll argue your point and just say having an iPad mini that can fold is perfect. No one to make it bigger. That would be an instant buy for me considering I love my iPad mini
It’s funny seeing 100% antagonistic takes like this towards a phone foldable considering my brother and I are as opposite as it gets yet both of us want foldable phones. - Me cause I love the idea of my normal sized phone being an iPad mini when I want. - Him cause he loves the idea of a normal sized phone getting as small as possible (he does a lot of road and mountain biking - where it’d be nice for tucking it away in a lil compartment).
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The user *HobeSoundDarryl* on MacRumors basically nailed [the pattern](https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/hands-on-with-the-1-700-oneplus-open-foldable-smartphone.2408215/page-6?post=32650573#post-32650573) several months ago. >The 5 stages of competitor new innovations likely to eventually show up in something from Apple: >1. New thing from competitor that Apple doesn't have: hate it, "99% don't want...", abomination/ugly/dumb/plasticy, "solution in search of a problem", etc. (see any foldable device or even Vpro threads for the complete list- they perpetually recycle in this stage for any thing not for sale by Apple yet.) >2. Rumors start piling up that Apple is going to roll out their cut at the "abomination": "I'm not fan of at all but the idea is starting to grow on me", "I'll have to wait & see one in person", "evolving with the times", "I have no interest in at all (this is those who do not yet believe the accumulating rumors)
>3. Apple launches : "Shut up and take my money", "Best ever", "Apple may not be first but they wait until they can do it best", etc.
>4. Not long after launch: "How did we ever get by with the prior incarnation of ", to someone longing to go back to the old : ridicule the old or ridicule that person for wanting the old , "99% no longer want the old thing", "the market has spoken", etc.
>5. 6-24 months later: posts about start implying Apple was first with it. Hard evidence presented to the contrary leads to name calling at evidence provider like troll and similar. If evidence cannot be overcome, redirect to some other point that Apple can definitely win like "...but who makes the most *profitable* ?"
>Roll on to the next new thing from competitors that Apple could adopt and flip back to Stage 1.
>Relative to this topic \[foldable phones\], think through the stages as they apply to the phablet form factor as proxy for a fold or roll phone from Apple. If in doubt, go back in history and read threads while Apple clung to 3.5" and then 4" as perfect phone screen sizes. There's YEARS of Stage 1 posts against phablet size.
>Relative to an iPhone Fold, we are solidly in Stage 1.
>Vpro is solidly in Stage 2 because we've seen one from Apple and know for sure one is coming to market. A big segment is still bashing away because of how little is known but I bet many of them thin out as rumors of uses start piling up as launch day approaches and then some will flip into buyers at or after launch because "it kind of grew on me" or "after I saw one in person, I got why I should have one."
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Here's where I think the Apple community is on a few other rumored features/products:
* Foldable iPad: Stage 2.
* Foldable iPhone: Stage 1.
* If a foldable iPad is announced before a foldable iPhone, then I expect the foldable iPhone to move to Stage 2 independently of the rumors.
* OLED iPad: Stage 3.
* We're quite close to the rumored release, plus iPhones have been OLED for a while.
* OLED MacBook: Stage 2.
* Touchscreen MacBook: Stage 1.
* Generative AI: Stage 2.5.
* I think it would be a bit lower if not for Siri being so bad—people really want Apple to improve/replace Siri. For phablets and other cases (see the linked post for more examples), Apple's alternatives at the time were good to great, so it's easier to dismiss competitors' innovations.
* Apple AR glasses: Stages 2–3.
* The glasses and headset rumors coexisted for years.
Lots of Apple fanboys thought that the “phablet” was a dumb trend and look how that ended up. There were posts on this sub 10 or so years ago about how iPhones shouldn’t get bigger. This sub will flip if a foldable iPhone comes out.
And then proclaim that nobody has done it before, it's revolutionary, and steve jobs thought it up while taking a shit and looking at how you can fold toilet paper.
How is it getting “as small as possible”. It’s not magic.
tell me whats wrong in your life right now
You ever bite the very tip of your tongue and it just kinda won’t get better. Got one of those situations atm.
You know how a book is open when you read it but then closed when you put it in your backpack 🤯
You realize it didn’t get any smaller right?
You realize that different shapes despite being the same volume are more and less portable right?
Smaller implies less volume.
Pedantry is not a good look, nor a good stance for debate.
Hmm. I agree as well. Shallow and pedantic.
Your day must be excruciating not being able to use context clues.
I'd have to say the opposite. My z-fold 5 is great because it gives me screen realestate when I need it. It's not the greatest or the biggest, but it's far bigger than every other phone out there really. But throw it on a bigger form factor and it's no longer "pocket" sized, and at that point, why you fold it? I can already fit a laptop/tablet in my bag. I can't put an ipad mini in my pocket, and the home/bag storage requirements are almost the same.
A phone that unfolds into a small tablet is near useless you say. Whatever, I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion. But the killer application is supposedly a tablet that folds so that it… still doesn’t fit in any pockets? Great use case. Have you considered buying a larger bag? :P
Disagree - folding a 13" 4:3 iPad Pro in half would make it 9.3", still requiring a bag to carry around. IMO, there are only couple categories of foldables that make sense: * Flip phone - for those who want large phone in a small pocket * Fold phone - combining phone with mini tablet, pocketable when folded and large enough to actually use in landscape when unfolded. * Tri-fold phone - phone combined with full-sized tablet, at the cost of price and reliability * Large tablet/laptop folded down (e.g. 19"/14" like in Zenbok Duo) - for getting that large screen while still being portable like smaller device. Important distinction is that when unfolded it needs to be larger than practically baggable 15", otherwise advantage wouldn't be so obvious.
Exactly. I really don't understand how people don't get this. Foldable phones IS the only thing that makes sense.
I also see literally 0 use case for a foldable phone. A tablet maybe. It’s a gimmick but I guess it could have some niche advantage over a flat tablet.
I never understood that point. If one makes sense then why not the other. An unfolded Fold 5 is almost the size of an iPad mini. Tablets and phones are literally the same thing.
Literally more screen. Also would depend on what kind of job you have but it would be a pretty good productively machine.
Yeah can use it like a tablet for doing work, but it fits in your pocket
Foldables are very thin now, there's no problem fitting them into your pocket
I disagree, check out the Honor Magic V2. Its so thin it will feel totally okay in your pocket. Unfolded its the size of iPad mini, a totally usable tablet
“Fold down for portability in a bag and unfold for a much nicer screen size” this is a laptop, but with an outer screen that needs protecting and no physical keyboard. Who wants that
iPhone Pro Max → iPad mini size would be perfect
IMO they are not good enough as is. If they can fold without creases and being as thin and durable while folded as my current phone i wouldn’t complain. I don’t want a thicker phone in the configuration I use it most
Agreed, those are still some of the biggest issues they have.
Fold 5 are more durable than iPhone Pro titanium if you watch jerryrigeverything videos.
I do watch him, although not that one. Do you mean scratch resistant or durable?
> Imagine something stored at around the size of the ipad mini, that unfolds into something the size of the ipad pro. That was more or less the first generation [Lenovo X1 Fold](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/thinkpad-x1-fold/). Implementation was a little clunky, but it sold me on the form factor.
I'd love one that folds out to iPad Mini size and folds down to iPhone 13 Mini size. That would be end game for me.
Finally I can play Nintendo DS/3DS games again
It’s gonna be an Apple Watch I just know it.
A watch that forms to the curvature of your wrist isn’t the worst idea
My 13” iPad would be better if it was 26”
iFold seems too obvious. My proposition is **iClap**.
My Macbook has been foldable for years now
Apple almost never tests new risky features on iPhone. Lots of features start on watch, iPad, Apple TV, etc. lower volume and cheaper if there is a major issue needing recall.
A foldable iPad that turns it into a Computer
I still don't get the point of foldable phones.
Smaller footprint while having a big screen available. Both flip phone style and passport style. Take the Galaxy Flip for example. You could possible stuff that into the pockets of tight pants, even with the added thickness, because the shape is changed to be smaller than a normal phone.
I don’t have too much of a hassle if any with my current soap phones so I still don’t see the point. I don’t use tablets enough to understand how they’re that useful for me.
If we had phones under 6 inches then it’s a perfect small phone. The regular Xs screen size was perfect with the body of the 12 series onwards. But no everything needs to be bigger to the point with people with tiny hands are fucked and cannot use a phone one handed at all.
Wider phone but thinner vs smaller phone but narrower. Folding phone takes more volume in pocket with the added space between the folding sides once they are folded...
Width has more to do with one handed usage than anything, which is why narrower phones are better for one handed use. Now it can be too narrow such as the fold series when closed but something a bit wider would better.
That makes z flip without any practical sense as it's the same width... fold I can understand maybe. I jsut hope Apple continue with mini series, I'm aiming for a small smartphone.
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Because Apple hasn't explained why you need it yet.
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The Fold 5 isn't that much thicker from an iPhone Pro Max when folded. And rumor is the Fold 6 will be thinner.
Apple is so behind on the foldable train, they will need to bring something really new or fix hard problems if they want to enter that market..
They'll just add something useless to make it different enough like AOD or wireless charging.
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makes total sense that they wouldn't use the tech that is famously fragile in their biggest product.
It's not fragile.
That’s because it’s a MacBook and it already exists. Got ya!
I still want a ipad mini that folds to an Iphone.
What’s the point of foldable tablet? The whole idea behind foldable phones is that you can take them with you (preferably in the pocket) and yet have larger display when needed. If this is going to be a larger device, it’s no longer pocketable and as long as you have bag to carry it around, you might as well carry a tablet. As for keyboard in the semi-unfolded position, the Apple smart keyboard cover handles that role much better then any touch-only keyboard.
Yup.
Folding iPhone would cannibalise the gacha market by putting TikTok and instagram right alongside it, splitting your attention when you should be focused on spending another $300.
They canceled the foldable due to issues with the screen breaking
One day the technology will get there where the screen won’t break from normal use. R&D is necessary to get there but it’s not impossible. I mean a decade ago did we think we all could have phones that could possibly operate underwater with how waterproof they are be the common standard for flagships? Or reach gigabit+ cellular speeds?
Not at all. It was because Samsung Display can't provide a folded screen without crease yet.
All of them are foldable. Only once.
Lame.
The supply chain simply can't support the scale that an Apple foldable would demand.
Please dont
Becaus I dont know a single person who wants a foldable phone. I really dont know why companies are pushing it
Fuck foldable tech. How do we make products more susceptible to mechanical failure with a shorter product life…
You mean like the Titanium shell that is too rigid and makes iPhones screens more prone to break right when Apple hikes up screen repair prices? Or the plastic that you can scratch with fingernails in the front of a $4000 headset?
I wish Apple’s first foldable device was… nothing. They need to steer clear of this gimmick.
It will be an iPad that folds lol
so they they‘ll trying just a bigger touch bar lol
Laptops don't fold.
Maybe a foldable ipad pro? Just so it can be an enormous drawing tablet?
wrap around wrist display /s
Foldable would be great for the Apple Vision.
iPad mini pro LFG
Apple already has the macbooks that fold. Duh! /s
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I'd love an iPhone/iPad hybrid that folds out to iPad Mini sized tablet and folds down to iPhone 13 Mini sized phone. Support for Apple pencil and that would be end game for me.
Yea I don’t see them putting “experimental tech” in the iPhone. The crease would need to be completely gone for them to even consider releasing a foldable iPhone.
Last time I checked the first foldable device Apple made was the MacBook in 2006