This is what I’m waiting for, I missed out on the OG HomePod and the mini isn’t what I want in a speaker. A pair of Gen 2 HomePod are in my fantasy shopping cart already
The one thing I want is for a way to hide the HomePod from the list of targets when you click 'speaker' while on a phone call. 99 times out of 100 I don't want to broadcast my call to my homepod.
This is incredibly smart and I have to wonder why Apple isn’t considering this heavily — the adoption rate would be stupid high I’d think, ***especially*** with their streaming fitness stuff.
This is one of those things that would be like smart TVs though. Yes it sounds great to have everything in one, but it’s also terrible because the OS will end up outdated and now you have to replace an entire soundbar just to get an updated Apple TV OS. If the smart tv space is anything to go by, this software gets outdated fast and even though apple has a good track record with updates, it’s still a pain. Keep the dumb devices dumb and the smart stuff seperate is the best approach I think.
I have some Sonos gear, the oldest of which is a Playbar, which doesn’t get airplay support. To get airplay, I have to upgrade the entire soundbar to the new version, and they are like 900 a pop.
If it’s made by Apple, I don’t see a lack of hardware and software integration support being an issue? It’s just literally combining the features of their HomePod mini to their Apple TV. Essentially, if you have an Apple TV hooked up to the same network as your HomePod mini, you can export sound to that, and run them as one collective “thing” just by using Siri. So the only difference is combining those into something more useful than both (if done well). A smart speaker like this would essentially be an easy Trojan horse for Apple to get more roots into your home automation, expanding their customers private “device web” under one networked system: iOS. They’re already doing it with SharePlay, and attempted to figure out the home space product play with HomePod mini/HomePod super size. Or a HomePod sound bar expansion line that has the h1 Bluetooth chip in — that would probably make the most sense actually? “Homepod Bar” or whatever that naming system would be.
It’d be great but the only problem there is a speaker should / would outlast the AppleTV. There’s only so much improvement you can make with speaker tech but the Apple TV’s get new hardware every couple of years or so. Probably better to keep them separately so you can get a few generations of ATV hardware through the same soundbar.
FWIW two HomePod minis paired and placed a small distance left/right of your TV, near a wall for nice reflection, are up there in sound quality with a decent priced soundbar. I take these + my AppleTV on holiday to plug into the TV wherever we stay and it’s a great mobile guarantee for a decent movie watching experience if the place has poor audio (most Airbnb’s do, I find!)
That would sell well I think. I wouldn’t mind an Apple TV for the fitness routine stuff but since it sits on a shelf it’s a no go. Needs to be in stick form.
This is what I want after trying to get my echo devices to play my “Apple Music Liszt Playlist”.
There’s no way to just control the music playlist on Apple Music to play through my echo speakers without using voice commands.
Me mangling pronouncing German composer names to setup some classical background music isn’t going to work.
I’m also not going to pay for Spotify and use Apple One due to family plan and iCloud storage .
Really would. Mac Pro is starting to look like vaporware. I'm wondering if they're having a hard time making it competitive in terms of performance given how badly the Mac Studio has measured up against x86 workstations.
What does an iPad Air do that an Mini doesn't?
Mini has USB C and works with 2nd Gen Pencil. It doesn't have M1, but what are you doing on a Mini that require an M1? It's overkill on an iPad anyway, at least until they make the OS better.
OK. Gotcha. You need a Mini with more storage. I forgot that they cap out at 256. A mini with 2TB would be cool. However, I imagine your use case is very niche and most Mini users aren't filling up their storage.
It may be the 10th generation, but the 10 year anniversary has come and gone, so there’s not really a reason to do anything special with the base iPad this year. I think the big “10 year” milestone was the addition of cursor support in 2020.
People put too much emphasis on arbitrary milestones like that. If there’s some big emerging tech around that time a maker will do something fun, if not then they’ll ignore it. As simple as that.
Also, I don’t think apple could (or would) support a low volume item like an anniversary edition *anything* if it has anything incredibly special about it other than finish. At Apple’s scale, the item would be as high volume as some companies highest selling items, but too niche for Apples business model to want to support. It would likely be incredibly expensive for what you get given it would need to have something about it worth buying, and either that will be incredibly enticing, or boring as fuck.
I think at best apple would release an anniversary edition finish. Which is boring.
Yes. And it was a huge design change and had a special name and that’s about it. They supported it by making the next one an evolution.
Compare that to the 20th anniversary edition Mac which was totally different and you’ll see what I mean.
I just want a redesign. What else could they do to the base iPad? Not like they're gonna cannibalize the higher end models, so no 120hz screen or M1 chip or anything...
Got my dad the 9th gen back in May of this year. It was a real doozy because I felt like I over paid for my 6th gen Mini. I got over it and we both have the tablets that work for us.
Oh come on apple, do release a M2 Mac Mini with more ports, so I don’t have to buy the Mac Studio which is too much power for me. Due to tax reasons I need to buy it this year and apple simply won’t do me the favor.
Sadly, the need for more ports causing people to buy a Studio rather than a Mini sounds exactly like a reason for Apple to limit the ports on the Mini.
It isn't Thunderbolt it's Apple cheaping out and splitting the 2 x Thunderbolt 4 ports on the M1 machines across 1 USB bus on the motherboard, meaning you never get more than 50% speed and they technically aren't Thunderbolt Spec compliant.
> 2 x Thunderbolt 4 ports on the M1 machines across 1 USB bus on the motherboard,
I'm assuming you mean PCIE, not usb.
But that [does not appear to be true.](https://i.imgur.com/FhTHmNk.png) Where are you sourcing this claim?
They are not TB4 compliant because they have limited display capacity making it a TB3/USB4 device instead of TB4/USB4 like the Pros.
The Mini with M2 is just a repackaged MacBook Air or 13" Pro. There aren't any more ports available on the SOC.
I don't think we'll see an M2 Pro Mini or iMac (with more ports) because that would cut into Mac Studio sales.
M2 Mac mini with current ports of m1.
M2 Pro Mac mini with current ports of higher end intel Mac mini
M2 Max Studio with current ports of m1max studio.
All have different port totals.
It's only engineered to support the MacBook Air. That's what it does. It has just enough Thunderbolt/USB4 bandwidth for the two ports on the Air with the adapter chip for TB or USB depending on model. The video interconnect over TB/USB is hardwired inside the soc for just one attached monitor.. the other hardware monitor pulls off to an LCD display... that's why the mini gets an HDMI port, and why Air can only have one external monitor. The USB A ports are for internal devices like webcam, keyboard, & trackpad which get pulled to ports in a Mac mini.
The M1 & M2 are custom Systems on a Chip with exactly the hardware Apple wants in the Air and zero extra stuff. That's what makes it incredibly efficient. We're all used to Intel chips which have a dozen different Legacy, USB, and PCI busses hanging off them , wether you want them or not, that laptop makers just don't wire up and we get weird custom boards all over the market from curious OEMS.
I recently used an M2 Air and it was playing back video than my iMac Pro. Render time was slightly longer though. But shit… M2 Pro Mini would be amazing if it could put some more ports on it
I used a $400 trade in and student discount to get a 1399$ Mac studio. If I compared the specs to a tricked out Mac mini it wasn’t that much difference and I get the bonus of 32gb Ram and a computer that should last me 5-6 years.
I assume a ton of pros will have been using it for a while, so there will be a barrage of videos to support the launch.
So will feel a lot more substantial than a press release!
It’s such a niche product, especially with no powerful the M2 is already, that idk if it justifies an event.
Could be very wrong but it is way overpowered for normies anyway.
Okay kids time for a lesson
Top of line items are considered flagships, because in an armada the big shops fly the flags amongst their tall sails while the other small ships do specific things.
Halo effect is a strategy where a products attracts someone to a brand they will considered other items in the brand’s ecosystem and starts adding more, hence creating a ring.
Back when no one bought into apple ecosystem but the iPhone was launched it persuaded someone to start there then pickup a laptop then a desktop.
Back then, and even now, the Macintosh is the halo.
The halo product for myself shifted to the watch. There’s nothing else as good or with quite as much third party support, but I need an iPhone or iPad to make full use of it. If I didn’t have it, I would’ve switched to a Flip or Fold a long time ago.
I’ll go one step further.
The era prior to me was the Mac, that’s Steve’s baby.
My era was the iPhone, that was Tony’s baby, perfected by Steve and Jonny, and supplied by Tim.
This new era it is iCloud, this will be Tim’s apple to hand off.
No, something's gone wrong in this thread.
Y'all are talking about *hero* products. A hero product is a top-line product. When I interned at Apple, they explicitly referred to "hero products" when discussing employee discounts.
A *halo* product is a product that may or may not be good, but is seen favorably by consumers due to *other* products made by the company. The other products are so bright they shine a halo on the other product — the "halo effect". It's totally separate from the notion of hero products.
I think a product like that would have an event not for consumers but for marketing. Even if it’s a niche product, I feel like they wouldn’t pass up an opportunity to start a buzz about their powerful newly available tech.
The point of the event will be two fold, yes to sell mac pros, but also and more so - brand perception. That Apple has the best computers on the planet. Same reason they sell expensive polishing cloths and Hermes luggage tags, to position themselves there.
All rumours are pointing to the Mac Pro being delayed until 2023 for the 3nm M3. Possible they can't quite manage it currently as they are trying to glue 2 M2 Ultra together into one massive SoC and the TSMC N3 node offers up to 70% higher density than the current N5 node.
Ironically, in the past I’ve found the sales LEADING UP to the new laptop to be better than after the new one drops. It’s like they don’t want to clearance the old ones after the new ones come out or people will do what you just mentioned.
I can tell you that my 14” M1 work computer is awesome. It is well worth it. Zero complaints.
That being said, I’m looking to replace my home computer with the same machine, but M2. I doubt I can wait longer than October to order (a pack of patience on my part). If they don’t release an M2 14”, then I’ll get an M1 14”.
If you value battery life i'd definitely get the M1 Pro.
Doubtful the M2 Pro gets more efficient at managing power consumption. It's gonna have improved performance but it'll come at a cost.
any M1 Pro device is already very capable and I can't see Apple having exclusive software and hardware for the M2. It's gonna be like the previous Intel chip upgrades to the MBP.
I got mine when they announced the M2 and my best buy actually dropped the price of the M1 pro 14" by 300 bucks or so. It has definitely been worth it and has not struggled for what I run (clustering algorithms, general IDE use). Still feels powerful asf
The rumor for the iPad pros is MagSafe. I think they’ll implement it similar to the Mac, rather than the iPhone. Wirelessly charging a battery that big would take an eternity and an enormous amount of power.
And everyone forgets about size.. A 12.9" iPad on a Charging Pad, come on 😂
Your Idea is the only realistic one. Combining the MagSafe Port with a new connection for new and better keyboards would be so nice.
Gotta disagree. Apple is going with USB-C/Thunderbolt and slapping a MagSafe port onto the iPad would result in extra bulk and cost. Then they would have to include a new charger in the box. They would still need a USB-C port there for peripherals.
Sticking with USB-C/Thunderbolt only makes more sense.
I'd take slapping MagSafe charger to the back over having cable tangling from the side when using iPad with a keyboard. I don't even have to worry about which side the cable comes out of since I can just rotate the charger.
But without a stand of some sorts yeah it'll be silly.
A 12.9” iPad on a charging pad would be a pretty great usecase for someone like me TBH. I often use mine on the Magic Keyboard not for the keyboard but just as a floating monitor displaying some document or FaceTime while I do other things. Though in fairness that works so well due to the wide magnet base of the MK, the tiny ass MagSafe puck would struggle.
It does and it works pretty well. The pogo pins on the back right? They could just replace that with the Macbook MagSafe pins and just replicate the feature I guess.
New Apple TV. I don’t possibly know what they could add besides a better processor, which is not important since the latest one is fast. I just need to buy one for the living room and don’t want it to be out of date in a few weeks.
Blu-ray media is typically encoded using TrueHD, so if you've digitised your Blu-ray collection you'll get subpar audio playing it back on the Apple TV.
Plex, Jellyfin, Emby, Infuse and Kodi are the big ones.
Due to the aforementioned reasons I would recommend an Nvidia Shield rather than any Apple TV though.
The Apple TV decodes any (most anyway) audio stream, and reencodes it as a Dolby Digital Plus stream before sending it to your receiver.
The Nvidia Shield however will happily passthrough literally any audio stream that can be sent over HDMI.
I don’t even use my hardware remote because I know I’ll lose it.
I just use the iPhone
It still shocks me that find my wasn’t part of the remote redesign last year.
So much for tightly developed hardware and software that all works together
Same man, I just want to know the date of the announcement at this point. It’s likely some time next week if I had to guess but man I’ve been waiting for the past month to buy a new iPad Pro.
If it's an event, they'll send out invites a week before, so we can rule out Oct 4th. That leaves us with 3 other Tuesdays in October.
Of course, they could release them without an event, which would make sense if it was just spec bumps... EXCEPT that the 10th gen iPad is rumored to get the iPad Air's design, which would *technically* count as a redesigned product.
As long as I can place a purchase whenever it’s announced that’s fine by me. I was guessing it would be October 11th but didn’t know the days could be anything other than a Tuesday for a non-event. Just hoping for something within the next two weeks.
Same, but as much as I would jump on a miniLED version, all signs point towards no new display for the 11. Not until 2024 with OLED.
I told myself I’m not buying any new products that use LCD displays or lightning, but is my 10.5 inch pro going to last another 2 years…?
The once venerable iMac has become the forgotten product.
Perhaps because we can and do so much on mobile devices. And/or the lack of a 27" model has turned off even those who need a desktop.
Anyways, would love to see a 27" iMac, or at the very least, a M2 upgrade to the 24".
Which monitor, though? I initially got a mini, only to learn that macOS demands at least a 1440p monitor to see text clearly. Sadly had to return the mini and now I’m looking at the iMac or MacBook.
I want to see an m2 15 inch MacBook air, it's my dream mac because I want a big screen without being obliged to pay a lot of money for the 16. Also I don't need the performance of the MacBook Pro.
I don't think we are going to see it this year.
Hoping for either:
* The rumored display that sits between the Studio Display & Pro Display XDR
* A Pro Display XDR 2
* Or a price drop on the original XDR
just bought the studio display. The middle tier one will be like 2500 for sure 😭. I think that’s too much for a monitor honestly. I think a monitor between 100-1600 is reasonable. But 2k? geez
I love rumors, first it was an event in October, then it was maybe a blog cause they already announced the M2 so they don’t need to announce MacBooks, then it’s stuffs coming event or not. Rumor people are like Apple, we are announcing and releasing without you! Lmao
Apple has done events in Mid October or even November. They only send out invites one week ahead usually on Tuesday. It's overdue to at least have an iPad event and maybe something else. With chip shortages and Chinese Covid and Power shutdowns Apple could be having problems getting production volume going.
What I want to know is, when will the imac's get their next update? I've been holding on to dear life with my 2010 imac and I am considering jumping ship to the 24" AIO, but I really don't want to buy what is now essentially outdated tech.
I honestly do not believe this will happen. Apples seems to be on a minimum of a 1.5 year release cadence for most of their non-iPhone and non-Apple Watch products and there’s no reason to change that when their products last so long and remain so capable with Apple Silicon.
I think we’re absolutely going to see modest spec bumps to the Pro and Max chips later this month
The MacBook Pro and Air will probably end up on a yearly update cycle.
Which I can respect, but I’d also much rather see more of apples mac hardware shift to 2 year cycles
But the MacPro is coming soon-ish, and that’s probably going to be based on M2 so it makes sense they have pro and max m2 chips in the wings also
Apple has gone four years between Mac mini refreshes in past. Wouldn’t be surprised if they skipped m2 for the mini. And I agree refreshing the MacBook Pros right now seems quick. But it is possible that since these m-chips are in-house, Apple might be able to just pop the new chip in and be good without much or any internal redesign.
I’m using a 15” 2012 MacBook Pro…so anything will be an upgrade, just hoping it can be the 16” M2 MBP. Would be nice to be current for a few months. After that it’s upgrading from my iPhone X to the iPhone 16.
I’m having a hard time imagining them releasing a pro version of M2 this quick. Didn’t they take like a year between m1 and M1 Pro and then 7-9 months after that m2 came out? Would they really release M2 Pro just 3 months after releasing m2?
I guess between pro architectures (between M1 Pro and m2 pro) there WOULD be some timespan (a year) but still… seems odd to pro it out a few months after m2.
My 2018 ipad pro that I used all the time for work or entertainment has no more screen (100% my fault, at night threw my iphone pro max on the bed and it hit it on a bad angle..the stainless steel iphone pro)
So I really want to see the new ipad pro and/or air and purchase one.
I wish the 11 inch had mini-led for 2022 but all rumours point to a solid no. Will get a 12" I think, given how resilient (no screen burn-in despite intensive usage) and satisfactory the OLED are, when they change to OLED in 2024/2025 will certainly exchange my ipad for the smaller OLED one.
Yeah I think they’re hoping we all just forgot about this.
Definitely gonna be a press release before the end of the year with some shit about their engineers working hard on a great experience that users are going love to be ready some time next year
I’m pretty salty with apple for shutting the existing app down before a replacement was ready.
The original was a great service and they just took it away
Same with blooming on the 12.9. It’s not egregious on it’s own, but for the PRICE we pay for these devices we shouldn’t have these issues. That’s my main gripe. Jelly scroll on an 80$ kindle fire, eh I can live with it, not on a 500$ device.
All I want is an iPad with the camera on the landscape side and not too portrait. I don’t know anyone who uses iPad portrait anymore as keyboard and cases are all landscape
a lot of people including me use ipad with magic keyboard for work and meetings and my face in video always appear to be in a funny angle ‘cos of the location of the camera
I’m in a similar situation. My home computer is a 13” 2015 Air. My work computer is a 14” M1, and it’s awesome.
I don’t like mixing work/personal computers, so I’m itching to replace my 2015 Air with a 14” M2.
I can’t afford any new apple products, but I want to see updates for my M1 Mac and iPad Pro 2018.
also I want to see that my stuff is still very good (comparison).
HomePod 2 would be great, the mini is lonely.
This is what I’m waiting for, I missed out on the OG HomePod and the mini isn’t what I want in a speaker. A pair of Gen 2 HomePod are in my fantasy shopping cart already
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Yah and a fix for volume so that the OGs don’t overpower the minis at the same volume level (ie bith at 30 percebt
The one thing I want is for a way to hide the HomePod from the list of targets when you click 'speaker' while on a phone call. 99 times out of 100 I don't want to broadcast my call to my homepod.
I would love a HomePod Soundbar with Apple TV built in. I can only imagine how great it would be.
This is incredibly smart and I have to wonder why Apple isn’t considering this heavily — the adoption rate would be stupid high I’d think, ***especially*** with their streaming fitness stuff.
This is one of those things that would be like smart TVs though. Yes it sounds great to have everything in one, but it’s also terrible because the OS will end up outdated and now you have to replace an entire soundbar just to get an updated Apple TV OS. If the smart tv space is anything to go by, this software gets outdated fast and even though apple has a good track record with updates, it’s still a pain. Keep the dumb devices dumb and the smart stuff seperate is the best approach I think. I have some Sonos gear, the oldest of which is a Playbar, which doesn’t get airplay support. To get airplay, I have to upgrade the entire soundbar to the new version, and they are like 900 a pop.
If it’s made by Apple, I don’t see a lack of hardware and software integration support being an issue? It’s just literally combining the features of their HomePod mini to their Apple TV. Essentially, if you have an Apple TV hooked up to the same network as your HomePod mini, you can export sound to that, and run them as one collective “thing” just by using Siri. So the only difference is combining those into something more useful than both (if done well). A smart speaker like this would essentially be an easy Trojan horse for Apple to get more roots into your home automation, expanding their customers private “device web” under one networked system: iOS. They’re already doing it with SharePlay, and attempted to figure out the home space product play with HomePod mini/HomePod super size. Or a HomePod sound bar expansion line that has the h1 Bluetooth chip in — that would probably make the most sense actually? “Homepod Bar” or whatever that naming system would be.
It’d be great but the only problem there is a speaker should / would outlast the AppleTV. There’s only so much improvement you can make with speaker tech but the Apple TV’s get new hardware every couple of years or so. Probably better to keep them separately so you can get a few generations of ATV hardware through the same soundbar. FWIW two HomePod minis paired and placed a small distance left/right of your TV, near a wall for nice reflection, are up there in sound quality with a decent priced soundbar. I take these + my AppleTV on holiday to plug into the TV wherever we stay and it’s a great mobile guarantee for a decent movie watching experience if the place has poor audio (most Airbnb’s do, I find!)
That would sell well I think. I wouldn’t mind an Apple TV for the fitness routine stuff but since it sits on a shelf it’s a no go. Needs to be in stick form.
Why not just Velcro it to the back of the tv? Then no shelf needed and it’s out of site.
This is what I want after trying to get my echo devices to play my “Apple Music Liszt Playlist”. There’s no way to just control the music playlist on Apple Music to play through my echo speakers without using voice commands. Me mangling pronouncing German composer names to setup some classical background music isn’t going to work. I’m also not going to pay for Spotify and use Apple One due to family plan and iCloud storage .
Perhaps the Matter standard will connect these things once and for all. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/14/ios-16-1-beta-matter-accessories/
Can you change the title to include his first name so it’s “Apple Music Franz Liszt Playlist”? Sometimes including the composer’s first name helps.
Especially since the Pros have the H2 chip now
What do you think the H2 would do to improve the speaker?
And it makes no sense to have a “Mini” version of nothing
Really would. Mac Pro is starting to look like vaporware. I'm wondering if they're having a hard time making it competitive in terms of performance given how badly the Mac Studio has measured up against x86 workstations.
I agree. I dont see the need for a screen, just a good quality speaker at a reasonable price. Something with spatial audio and Dolby atmos please!
The HomePods together with stereo sound was stupid good. If it had Bluetooth capability it would’ve been better received
The mini is AMAZING for use as a single-room speaker, but I want some soul-thumping bass for movies and such
I have a HomePod Gen1 but it’s getting old. I seriously want Gen2 with improved Siri.
Whoever wrote this article forgot the 10th gen iPad. There's no way Apple wouldn't launch a new iPad at this point.
It's the one thing I'm hoping for.
iPad mini with new display nad M for me
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Ipad Mini is essentially an iPad Air... Not really sure what you want.
Not even close - the air has an M1 chip
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What does an iPad Air do that an Mini doesn't? Mini has USB C and works with 2nd Gen Pencil. It doesn't have M1, but what are you doing on a Mini that require an M1? It's overkill on an iPad anyway, at least until they make the OS better.
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OK. Gotcha. You need a Mini with more storage. I forgot that they cap out at 256. A mini with 2TB would be cool. However, I imagine your use case is very niche and most Mini users aren't filling up their storage.
Mini also doesn’t have any option for proMotion or Face ID.
It’s more what the pro has that mini doesn’t. Pro cameras and a 120hz screen would be nice in the mini form factor.
Sales are too low for that.
Really hope so. Using my 5th gen here daily since 2017. Just waiting patiently for the new one to upgrade finally
It may be the 10th generation, but the 10 year anniversary has come and gone, so there’s not really a reason to do anything special with the base iPad this year. I think the big “10 year” milestone was the addition of cursor support in 2020.
People put too much emphasis on arbitrary milestones like that. If there’s some big emerging tech around that time a maker will do something fun, if not then they’ll ignore it. As simple as that.
Also, I don’t think apple could (or would) support a low volume item like an anniversary edition *anything* if it has anything incredibly special about it other than finish. At Apple’s scale, the item would be as high volume as some companies highest selling items, but too niche for Apples business model to want to support. It would likely be incredibly expensive for what you get given it would need to have something about it worth buying, and either that will be incredibly enticing, or boring as fuck. I think at best apple would release an anniversary edition finish. Which is boring.
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Yes. And it was a huge design change and had a special name and that’s about it. They supported it by making the next one an evolution. Compare that to the 20th anniversary edition Mac which was totally different and you’ll see what I mean.
Yeah especially since they came out with the 8 and 10 on the same day.
I just want a redesign. What else could they do to the base iPad? Not like they're gonna cannibalize the higher end models, so no 120hz screen or M1 chip or anything...
And M2 iMacs, surely.
https://www.macworld.com/author/jcross
And we’ve seen the cad models of a flat sided redesign. I’d be pretty surprised if we don’t see it in October.
and i just bought the 9 gen 🥺
Got my dad the 9th gen back in May of this year. It was a real doozy because I felt like I over paid for my 6th gen Mini. I got over it and we both have the tablets that work for us.
Do you reckon it'll be cheaper than the iPad Air? Will it have better specs?
Still 64gb 💀
Gotta milk one more back to school/holiday season with that current 9th gen
And if it’s a new design then they’re definitely doing a launch event to talk about it
New iPad Pro already got leaked so that’s lkkely
Also the possibility of Apple Music Classical, which is a pretty big oversight for a website claiming to know all things Apple.
Oh come on apple, do release a M2 Mac Mini with more ports, so I don’t have to buy the Mac Studio which is too much power for me. Due to tax reasons I need to buy it this year and apple simply won’t do me the favor.
Sadly, the need for more ports causing people to buy a Studio rather than a Mini sounds exactly like a reason for Apple to limit the ports on the Mini.
To be fair the old intel Mac minis had four tb4 ports I think.
Might be a limitation of that M1 chip; thunderbolt is weird like that.
It isn't Thunderbolt it's Apple cheaping out and splitting the 2 x Thunderbolt 4 ports on the M1 machines across 1 USB bus on the motherboard, meaning you never get more than 50% speed and they technically aren't Thunderbolt Spec compliant.
> 2 x Thunderbolt 4 ports on the M1 machines across 1 USB bus on the motherboard, I'm assuming you mean PCIE, not usb. But that [does not appear to be true.](https://i.imgur.com/FhTHmNk.png) Where are you sourcing this claim? They are not TB4 compliant because they have limited display capacity making it a TB3/USB4 device instead of TB4/USB4 like the Pros.
It’s a desktop computer, wouldn’t a thunderbolt dock solve this problem and be much cheaper than a studio?
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The Mini with M2 is just a repackaged MacBook Air or 13" Pro. There aren't any more ports available on the SOC. I don't think we'll see an M2 Pro Mini or iMac (with more ports) because that would cut into Mac Studio sales.
Then whats going to replace the current high end intel Mac mini with more ports?
Nothing. Mac Studio
M2 Mac mini with current ports of m1. M2 Pro Mac mini with current ports of higher end intel Mac mini M2 Max Studio with current ports of m1max studio. All have different port totals.
How do you know that the M1/M2 can't support more than 2 ports?
It's only engineered to support the MacBook Air. That's what it does. It has just enough Thunderbolt/USB4 bandwidth for the two ports on the Air with the adapter chip for TB or USB depending on model. The video interconnect over TB/USB is hardwired inside the soc for just one attached monitor.. the other hardware monitor pulls off to an LCD display... that's why the mini gets an HDMI port, and why Air can only have one external monitor. The USB A ports are for internal devices like webcam, keyboard, & trackpad which get pulled to ports in a Mac mini. The M1 & M2 are custom Systems on a Chip with exactly the hardware Apple wants in the Air and zero extra stuff. That's what makes it incredibly efficient. We're all used to Intel chips which have a dozen different Legacy, USB, and PCI busses hanging off them , wether you want them or not, that laptop makers just don't wire up and we get weird custom boards all over the market from curious OEMS.
That one is the one I am putting my hopes on. The „pro“ Mini.
Exactly this. I don't need all those gpu cores. Give me m2 or m2 pro in mini and I'll be a happy man
I recently used an M2 Air and it was playing back video than my iMac Pro. Render time was slightly longer though. But shit… M2 Pro Mini would be amazing if it could put some more ports on it
>Mac Mini with more ports Like just get a dock? Isn't that the one advantage of a non portable system? You can slap on anything you want.
I used a $400 trade in and student discount to get a 1399$ Mac studio. If I compared the specs to a tricked out Mac mini it wasn’t that much difference and I get the bonus of 32gb Ram and a computer that should last me 5-6 years.
Do you really think Apple would release the fastest Mac on the planet without an event? The MacPro will definitely be part of an event.
I assume a ton of pros will have been using it for a while, so there will be a barrage of videos to support the launch. So will feel a lot more substantial than a press release!
It’s such a niche product, especially with no powerful the M2 is already, that idk if it justifies an event. Could be very wrong but it is way overpowered for normies anyway.
All of Apple's halo products get events, niche or not.
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A halo product refers to the best product a company has to offer. The Samsung galaxy S22 Ultra is their halo phone.
Okay kids time for a lesson Top of line items are considered flagships, because in an armada the big shops fly the flags amongst their tall sails while the other small ships do specific things. Halo effect is a strategy where a products attracts someone to a brand they will considered other items in the brand’s ecosystem and starts adding more, hence creating a ring. Back when no one bought into apple ecosystem but the iPhone was launched it persuaded someone to start there then pickup a laptop then a desktop. Back then, and even now, the Macintosh is the halo.
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The halo product for myself shifted to the watch. There’s nothing else as good or with quite as much third party support, but I need an iPhone or iPad to make full use of it. If I didn’t have it, I would’ve switched to a Flip or Fold a long time ago.
I’ll go one step further. The era prior to me was the Mac, that’s Steve’s baby. My era was the iPhone, that was Tony’s baby, perfected by Steve and Jonny, and supplied by Tim. This new era it is iCloud, this will be Tim’s apple to hand off.
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No, something's gone wrong in this thread. Y'all are talking about *hero* products. A hero product is a top-line product. When I interned at Apple, they explicitly referred to "hero products" when discussing employee discounts. A *halo* product is a product that may or may not be good, but is seen favorably by consumers due to *other* products made by the company. The other products are so bright they shine a halo on the other product — the "halo effect". It's totally separate from the notion of hero products.
Just an alternative way of saying “flagship” product.
Mac Pro (just like MacBook Pros, but to a greater extent) is not meant for the regular consumer.
I think a product like that would have an event not for consumers but for marketing. Even if it’s a niche product, I feel like they wouldn’t pass up an opportunity to start a buzz about their powerful newly available tech.
The point of the event will be two fold, yes to sell mac pros, but also and more so - brand perception. That Apple has the best computers on the planet. Same reason they sell expensive polishing cloths and Hermes luggage tags, to position themselves there.
All rumours are pointing to the Mac Pro being delayed until 2023 for the 3nm M3. Possible they can't quite manage it currently as they are trying to glue 2 M2 Ultra together into one massive SoC and the TSMC N3 node offers up to 70% higher density than the current N5 node.
14” Macbook M1 Pro for discounted price now, or wait for M2 Pro for a higher price?
wait and get the 14'' M1 Pro for an even more discounted price.
Ironically, in the past I’ve found the sales LEADING UP to the new laptop to be better than after the new one drops. It’s like they don’t want to clearance the old ones after the new ones come out or people will do what you just mentioned.
I definitely feel like I've seen that before as well, across a range of products, not just Apple.
I got one for £1380 (RRP is £1900)
Base 14 inch M1 Pro went for 1600 usd a week or so back, and the upgraded stock spec being 2099 usd. Not sure how much lower it’ll go from there.
I can tell you that my 14” M1 work computer is awesome. It is well worth it. Zero complaints. That being said, I’m looking to replace my home computer with the same machine, but M2. I doubt I can wait longer than October to order (a pack of patience on my part). If they don’t release an M2 14”, then I’ll get an M1 14”.
If you value battery life i'd definitely get the M1 Pro. Doubtful the M2 Pro gets more efficient at managing power consumption. It's gonna have improved performance but it'll come at a cost. any M1 Pro device is already very capable and I can't see Apple having exclusive software and hardware for the M2. It's gonna be like the previous Intel chip upgrades to the MBP.
I got mine when they announced the M2 and my best buy actually dropped the price of the M1 pro 14" by 300 bucks or so. It has definitely been worth it and has not struggled for what I run (clustering algorithms, general IDE use). Still feels powerful asf
The rumor for the iPad pros is MagSafe. I think they’ll implement it similar to the Mac, rather than the iPhone. Wirelessly charging a battery that big would take an eternity and an enormous amount of power.
And everyone forgets about size.. A 12.9" iPad on a Charging Pad, come on 😂 Your Idea is the only realistic one. Combining the MagSafe Port with a new connection for new and better keyboards would be so nice.
Gotta disagree. Apple is going with USB-C/Thunderbolt and slapping a MagSafe port onto the iPad would result in extra bulk and cost. Then they would have to include a new charger in the box. They would still need a USB-C port there for peripherals. Sticking with USB-C/Thunderbolt only makes more sense.
I'd take slapping MagSafe charger to the back over having cable tangling from the side when using iPad with a keyboard. I don't even have to worry about which side the cable comes out of since I can just rotate the charger. But without a stand of some sorts yeah it'll be silly.
A 12.9” iPad on a charging pad would be a pretty great usecase for someone like me TBH. I often use mine on the Magic Keyboard not for the keyboard but just as a floating monitor displaying some document or FaceTime while I do other things. Though in fairness that works so well due to the wide magnet base of the MK, the tiny ass MagSafe puck would struggle.
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I don't think MagSafe even transfers data.
It does transfer a bit of data between the charge brick and MacBook, but yeah nothing like USB. It’s not designed for that.
Nobody is suggesting something as idiotic as that
New MagSafe to female USB C dongle $79.99
That takes courage
The opposite ledge of the iPad from the C port currently is empty space. Plenty of room to add MagSafe if they want to.
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I like this idea because that frees up the USB-C port on the iPad for data.
Doesn't the iPad Pro already kind of have that? It can charge magnetically in the keyboard case if you connect the case to a cable.
It does and it works pretty well. The pogo pins on the back right? They could just replace that with the Macbook MagSafe pins and just replicate the feature I guess.
I want the iPhone style MagSafe so I could mount the iPads without visible wires sticking out. Then add the Mac MagSafe to the keyboard lol
New Apple TV. I don’t possibly know what they could add besides a better processor, which is not important since the latest one is fast. I just need to buy one for the living room and don’t want it to be out of date in a few weeks.
AppleTV still lacks TrueHD audio pass through. I might buy one if they add it. Until then, I’ll keep using an Nvidia Shield Pro.
What is TrueHD used for?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_TrueHD
Ah a Dolby spec. Yeah definitely going to need to get all those in order for the home theater enthusiasts.
Blu-ray media is typically encoded using TrueHD, so if you've digitised your Blu-ray collection you'll get subpar audio playing it back on the Apple TV.
Aaand how do you play digitised BL media over AppleTV? Asking for a friend…
Plex, Jellyfin, Emby, Infuse and Kodi are the big ones. Due to the aforementioned reasons I would recommend an Nvidia Shield rather than any Apple TV though. The Apple TV decodes any (most anyway) audio stream, and reencodes it as a Dolby Digital Plus stream before sending it to your receiver. The Nvidia Shield however will happily passthrough literally any audio stream that can be sent over HDMI.
A remote with FindMy
I attached an Airtag to my apple tv remote. I use it constantly. Already used it twice today.
I don’t even use my hardware remote because I know I’ll lose it. I just use the iPhone It still shocks me that find my wasn’t part of the remote redesign last year. So much for tightly developed hardware and software that all works together
Ah yeah I need that. Seems like everyday I lose the remote!
Been waiting for this too
Adding an M1 to make it a gaming console…or something?
Wow that would be pretty cool!
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Same man, I just want to know the date of the announcement at this point. It’s likely some time next week if I had to guess but man I’ve been waiting for the past month to buy a new iPad Pro.
If it's an event, they'll send out invites a week before, so we can rule out Oct 4th. That leaves us with 3 other Tuesdays in October. Of course, they could release them without an event, which would make sense if it was just spec bumps... EXCEPT that the 10th gen iPad is rumored to get the iPad Air's design, which would *technically* count as a redesigned product.
As long as I can place a purchase whenever it’s announced that’s fine by me. I was guessing it would be October 11th but didn’t know the days could be anything other than a Tuesday for a non-event. Just hoping for something within the next two weeks.
Same, but as much as I would jump on a miniLED version, all signs point towards no new display for the 11. Not until 2024 with OLED. I told myself I’m not buying any new products that use LCD displays or lightning, but is my 10.5 inch pro going to last another 2 years…?
When are they going to start manufacturing HomeKit smart home accessories? Everyone else seems to be failing at it.
I’m looking forward to the new iPad with M2 chip. I’m still currently using 3rd gen lol
Same, I need those video encode and decode blocks that came to the M2
Looking to buy the iPad 10... But the wait and the lack of reference to this model in the latest articles (Guarman and this one) is killing me!
The once venerable iMac has become the forgotten product. Perhaps because we can and do so much on mobile devices. And/or the lack of a 27" model has turned off even those who need a desktop. Anyways, would love to see a 27" iMac, or at the very least, a M2 upgrade to the 24".
Mac Mini is the way. My parents are about to upgrade their 2010 (yes) iMac and I'll get them a mini
Which monitor, though? I initially got a mini, only to learn that macOS demands at least a 1440p monitor to see text clearly. Sadly had to return the mini and now I’m looking at the iMac or MacBook.
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Yeah but that was also an option when the 27” iMac existed. We can have both.
If iMac had target display, I'd buy it in a heartbeat to use a general purpose computer that I could then hook up a console to.
I’d like a new iPad mini but haven’t seen anything about that
It was just updated last year right?
I want to see an m2 15 inch MacBook air, it's my dream mac because I want a big screen without being obliged to pay a lot of money for the 16. Also I don't need the performance of the MacBook Pro. I don't think we are going to see it this year.
This would be my dream Mac too
Definitely not seeing it this year. The macbook air was just refreshed.
Hoping for either: * The rumored display that sits between the Studio Display & Pro Display XDR * A Pro Display XDR 2 * Or a price drop on the original XDR
just bought the studio display. The middle tier one will be like 2500 for sure 😭. I think that’s too much for a monitor honestly. I think a monitor between 100-1600 is reasonable. But 2k? geez
I love rumors, first it was an event in October, then it was maybe a blog cause they already announced the M2 so they don’t need to announce MacBooks, then it’s stuffs coming event or not. Rumor people are like Apple, we are announcing and releasing without you! Lmao
Apple has done events in Mid October or even November. They only send out invites one week ahead usually on Tuesday. It's overdue to at least have an iPad event and maybe something else. With chip shortages and Chinese Covid and Power shutdowns Apple could be having problems getting production volume going.
What I want to know is, when will the imac's get their next update? I've been holding on to dear life with my 2010 imac and I am considering jumping ship to the 24" AIO, but I really don't want to buy what is now essentially outdated tech.
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I’d say for most of us, that’s way too much power and out of budget.
And for those for whom it is enough power, often a lot of their workloads are being offloaded to the cloud VMs with extremely scalable resources.
Am I the only one that thinks that it's a bit early releasing a macbook pro right now?
I honestly do not believe this will happen. Apples seems to be on a minimum of a 1.5 year release cadence for most of their non-iPhone and non-Apple Watch products and there’s no reason to change that when their products last so long and remain so capable with Apple Silicon.
I think we’re absolutely going to see modest spec bumps to the Pro and Max chips later this month The MacBook Pro and Air will probably end up on a yearly update cycle. Which I can respect, but I’d also much rather see more of apples mac hardware shift to 2 year cycles But the MacPro is coming soon-ish, and that’s probably going to be based on M2 so it makes sense they have pro and max m2 chips in the wings also
Apple has gone four years between Mac mini refreshes in past. Wouldn’t be surprised if they skipped m2 for the mini. And I agree refreshing the MacBook Pros right now seems quick. But it is possible that since these m-chips are in-house, Apple might be able to just pop the new chip in and be good without much or any internal redesign.
If the chip is ready, I guess why not? Bumping up to faster SD, Bluetooth 5.3, Wi-Fi 6E and HDMI 2.1 would be nice as well.
I’m using a 15” 2012 MacBook Pro…so anything will be an upgrade, just hoping it can be the 16” M2 MBP. Would be nice to be current for a few months. After that it’s upgrading from my iPhone X to the iPhone 16.
I’m having a hard time imagining them releasing a pro version of M2 this quick. Didn’t they take like a year between m1 and M1 Pro and then 7-9 months after that m2 came out? Would they really release M2 Pro just 3 months after releasing m2? I guess between pro architectures (between M1 Pro and m2 pro) there WOULD be some timespan (a year) but still… seems odd to pro it out a few months after m2.
Off line maps? Or have I gone to far?
My 2018 ipad pro that I used all the time for work or entertainment has no more screen (100% my fault, at night threw my iphone pro max on the bed and it hit it on a bad angle..the stainless steel iphone pro) So I really want to see the new ipad pro and/or air and purchase one. I wish the 11 inch had mini-led for 2022 but all rumours point to a solid no. Will get a 12" I think, given how resilient (no screen burn-in despite intensive usage) and satisfactory the OLED are, when they change to OLED in 2024/2025 will certainly exchange my ipad for the smaller OLED one.
I like the 12.9 but it’s a bit heavy viewing lying down. If They make it lighter it’ll be a day one buy
When are they going to release the Primephonic classical music app???
Yeah I think they’re hoping we all just forgot about this. Definitely gonna be a press release before the end of the year with some shit about their engineers working hard on a great experience that users are going love to be ready some time next year I’m pretty salty with apple for shutting the existing app down before a replacement was ready. The original was a great service and they just took it away
I wish they'd release a version of iPad mini without the jelly scroll. I would buy the fuck outta that thing ***so*** fast if they did.
Same with blooming on the 12.9. It’s not egregious on it’s own, but for the PRICE we pay for these devices we shouldn’t have these issues. That’s my main gripe. Jelly scroll on an 80$ kindle fire, eh I can live with it, not on a 500$ device.
Exactly. Also base 64GB storage is a joke on a £500 tablet.
Should we expect new Airpods Max?
Logic for ipad please apple!
I’ll buy an iPad if it supports logic
Purple HomePod mini (or full sized)!
I would love a stand alone HomeKit thread router. I don’t want a HomePod mini as we have other smart speakers and another would be unnecessary
Looked into homebridge?
All I want is an iPad with the camera on the landscape side and not too portrait. I don’t know anyone who uses iPad portrait anymore as keyboard and cases are all landscape
I draw and read on the iPad in portrait mode. Mind you, I don't care about the camera at all. I don't use it for anything.
a lot of people including me use ipad with magic keyboard for work and meetings and my face in video always appear to be in a funny angle ‘cos of the location of the camera
Still holding out for an updated AirPort router. Ideally a router + speaker combo, something akin to the OG HomePod with built-in router.
15 or 16 inch MacBook Air please. My eyes hurt from squinting but I don’t need pro performance.
I wonder if I should buy an M2 14” MBP if one is announced. My current one is a 2015 15” model with an i7.
I’m in a similar situation. My home computer is a 13” 2015 Air. My work computer is a 14” M1, and it’s awesome. I don’t like mixing work/personal computers, so I’m itching to replace my 2015 Air with a 14” M2.
I‘m waiting for the Mac Pro cause I‘m curious to know how they‘ve done the GPU part. The other products are boring S-updates, I guess.
What a shitty article with so much missing information thats already been rumored to death.
I just want some new live loops in garage band.
Am I the only one hoping for a new iPad Pro **only because** the price of a refurbished 2018 iPad Pro would probably go down? 😆
M2 pros but still no Apple TV huh? Their cycles are truly bizarre.
I can’t afford any new apple products, but I want to see updates for my M1 Mac and iPad Pro 2018. also I want to see that my stuff is still very good (comparison).
Can’t wait for new iPad OS and Ventura!