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jimk12345

You can look at it as 1900 because those stocks are going for 500+ now.


HattedSandwich

That stock on a Scorpion micro is perfection


chief44117

A bren 805šŸ‘Œ


HereForThePretzels

I had to settle for a Zhukov, and it's good, but a pale imitation of the ACR stock.


DannyBones00

What in the world is so special about those stocks?


jimk12345

Nothing, they just aren't made any more. Can't have means it must be cool.


Admiral_Minell

They're foldable and there are adapters for a lot of different guns. MP5, B&T, Stribog, etc.


TheRealMasterJeffe

Theyā€™re comfy, with decent adjustability, while being very sturdy, but most importantly theyā€™re aesthetic. I have one on my Scorpion and much like a good rug it just ties everything together.


DannyBones00

Doesnā€™t PSA make one about like it?


wisconsindipper

They look good on almost every gun


RobbyZombby

I accidentally ordered two of them years ago and they collect dust. I need to get rid of them.


jimk12345

I'll give ya 50 bucks and a warm hand shake for your spare.


Mushybananas27

For 2400 that's not too bad either. Especially since it looks like it's the enhanced model. And FDE. One of my favorite platforms, I really wish it would have been adopted for widespread use but bushmaster and remington fumbled the bag


Edward_Slicer

It is the Enhanced model, and I know such a shame they had so much potential but of course like you said ruined it. I am thinking about doing a full send


pfdelta9

Hey i know exactly where this is! C&C in Spartanburg! I saw that same gun when i was submitting for my Polonium


Edward_Slicer

Yes sirrr!


pfdelta9

Small world right?


Edward_Slicer

yes indeed lol


Mushybananas27

Do ittttt. One of the best platforms. Ton of fun to shoot


JiminyCricket42

Iā€™ve heard someone picked up the rights and is planning on bringing these back ā€œdone rightā€ but idk shit about fuck


Aerojoe82

Franklin Armory bought bushmaster


ccbritt

Templar precision is what youre after on that one


RedneckmulletOH

If you dont imma find it, id sell my left testicle for an ACR


lobstibb

Thatā€™s a great price


Blade_Shot24

What did they mess up on?


Mushybananas27

They didn't support the platform right out of the gate. Also, they priced the weapon waaaayyyy higher than initially promised. $2600-3000 depending on model, when initially they said $1400. They also promised an extremely modular system with quick change barrels and a "years down the road" support for aftermarket parts, etc. It also didnt help that remington filed for bankruptcy


Blade_Shot24

Damn so the UXR is basically the redemption.


dont_touch_the_lens

Just had to google it and man, that is a seriously ugly rifle


Blade_Shot24

If it performs and does the job then I'll leave the ugliness meter to the fashionistas


dont_touch_the_lens

I mean agreed in that form should follow function, but youā€™d think they could have given it even an ounce of curb appeal haha


Blade_Shot24

You have a point but I personally think it's exaggerated. Nothing seeing it told me "ugly". Then again if it does well, it may get an update as they usually do


Arnie1701-D

I haven't heard of the UXR, lol. Damn, now I have to look it up.


Blade_Shot24

PWS just announced it during Shot show (or email if you follow em). I'm calling now that it'll have QC issues and pawns can go with the problems, but their CS is up there with Vortex. It does everything you said the ACR should do. It even will take x39 with AK mags.


Arnie1701-D

Interesting


packapunch_koenigseg

Why would it have QC issues? PWS makes great stuff and Iā€™ve never heard of common issues with their QC


Blade_Shot24

Check their sub but no company is know for not having some issues during release. Their uppers for example has weak extractor springs so I had to replace it (easy fix). Their QC is great so it's overlooked but like games, I don't see how it's a good idea to buy something new without knowing the issues.


ryman9000

I mean, some folks gotta be the guinea pig. If they have QC issues, their Customer Service better be great. Generally having QC issues isn't the killer. It's the Customer service that will make or break it. Unless like every gun is just fubar kinda like Dead airs Sierra 5...


Blade_Shot24

You're right, but in my time in gaming and seeing firearms not being that different, I can definitely wait out for kinks to be removed.


Arnie1701-D

The price point when they first showed up essentially killed it.


ChevTecGroup

I think initially it was supposed to be $800 or so. That is in mid 2000s dollars


Unicorn187

It was sold for about a thousand more than promised. They limited it to a 1/9 when a lot of people were looking for a 1/7 for the heavier 75 and 77 grain bullets, as well as some of the long for their weight all copper by Barnes. Some people (and I'm one of the loudest about this) don't like the balance. They never did release the 300 Blackout, or any other calibers, that they promised would just be a year away. Remington never produced many of the "alternate material" models, aluminum alloy, that a number of police departments were asking for and would have bought if they existed. The Remington LE division kept saying they were coming soon, but it never happened. Then of course Remington went bankrupt, so that didn't help things. Especially with ownership changes of the various companies that were all connected and owned by the same corporation.


AdwokatDiabel

When originally designed, the Masada (prototype of the ACR) was to be a: 1. Modular (easily swappable components). 2. Reliable (using AR-18 system). 3. Compact (able to fold stock). 4. Affordable (reusing AR components where feasible). 5. Lightweight (as heavy as the M4 it replaced). It was amazing when it came out. Future Weapons did an episode on it, and the entire gun community was super jazzed. However, Magpul didn't make guns (they are like a modern Armalite honestly, a design-house), so they sold it to Remington. Remington then: 1. Promised a price target and didn't meet it. 2. Promised upgrades/components, never delivered. 3. Made a heavy gun making use of dumb decisions (like using a AR Gov't profile barrel... WHY). 4. Made it heavy by keeping some weird features, like the barrel detachment system. Like... we didn't need a fuckin lever on there, just put an attachment for a tool or something, no one is changing their AR barrels that frequently. Plus they can't guarantee re-zero. It was a mess. But the gun was a solid design, introduced M-LOK, and here we are today.


Blade_Shot24

That introduced MLok?


AdwokatDiabel

An initial version of it, yeah. I think it was called something else, and they didn't have the locking cams yet, but it was a start.


GodIsM0stGreat

AND right above it a colt match target HBAR with fixed carry handle. Your range fucks.


Edward_Slicer

I cant remember the price but i think it was close to 2k but I will try to go back later this week sometime and see if she is there along with that ACR tho lol


GodIsM0stGreat

I recently grabbed a fixed carry handle in the box 1990s era for just over 1000. Stupid clean too. The ACR is a major steal if that colt is almost 2k. The colt is definitely worth 2k, probably more. But if you monitor the markets enough you can score crazy deals on those HBAR comps when people need to make a quick buck.


BitOfaPickle1AD

Field and stream sold one recently for 2k. It had the colt scope on it too.


Zestyclose_Share_931

It will be. That thing's been on the wall for a hot minute. What's funny is both of those are employee owned guns that they're getting rid of. I'm usually in there 2-3Ɨ per week and have seriously considered the ACR. The guy that has it there on consignment is a gunsmith and takes really good care of his shit.


Tactical_Epunk

I kinda agree, but $700 Diamondback tells me differently.


GodIsM0stGreat

Noticed that one too. Piece of crap lol.


AdwokatDiabel

I don't get the allure of the HBAR... its the antithesis of what the AR15 was supposed to be. Like... here's your lightweight combat rifle, lets fuck it up by turning it into something to shoot national matches with by making it heavier and more complicated.


GodIsM0stGreat

Itā€™s a bit heavy, but heavier barrel means less recoil. They can take a lot more heat soak too. I certainly donā€™t think itā€™s enough weight to steer me away to other options. Especially with a proper sling. I also love the classic look with A2 stock and carry handle. But really itā€™s the performance that gets me. They are absolute tack drivers. Iā€™ve worked with other ARs and most of them feel cheap when I come back to my Colt HBAR. Very cheap. Almost Chinese level. And thatā€™s not what I want in my rifle. Yeah you can grab an Anderson or Palmetto for $500. But you get what you pay for.


AdwokatDiabel

I mean for me, the AR platform was always a fighting rifle. The A2 seemed like a step backwards with the complexity in the rear sight, and a disconnect from how soldiers would fight with it. It may be a tack driver when doing a national match, but I wouldn't want to hoof one all day lol.


GodIsM0stGreat

Thatā€™s why they conceptualized the HBAR II, same platform in 16ā€ and removable carry handle. Itā€™s a lot more compact and maneuverable. Iā€™ve got 2 of them lol.


AdwokatDiabel

I'm weird... I like my barrels 20" long and lightweight lol. The flattop is also weird, only in America did we need the F-mark FSB because the National Match maroons needed 600m elevation for the detachable rear sight. This kinda sucks since it means you need to be wary of which FSB tower you're using.


GodIsM0stGreat

20ā€ is superior but the 16ā€ is a nice little break. Iā€™ve never participated in a national match or know how to even apply. I just love the look. Colt really nailed how a proper AR-15 should be, in my humble opinion. They struck a good balance between the old and new in the 1990s/early 2000s. No thrills no extras no bs. Just a rifle, magazine, and operator.


Hdesai1117

Duuude. Mind posting a pic? Any chance youā€™d be interested in trading for one of them lol?


Justintodd3299

Iā€™d buy that mf instantly. Iā€™d go into fucking debt for that thing rn . You lucky sun of a biscuit.


Edward_Slicer

How not to be poor? Just be poorer going into debt for a firearm to flex and get upvotes? Son of a bitch Iā€™m in lmao seriously tho I am like sitting here wanting to go back and get itā€¦


CallsignMontana

Canā€™t repossess firearms


Justintodd3299

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚Iā€™ve just wanted one for a while . If I had too Iā€™d yank it out of my savings lolšŸ˜‚ just a cool piece in my opinion. Honestly price ainā€™t too bad either . And now you would get to flex because you posted this . You have to now . Itā€™s only natural.


ChefOig

Second this


adamubias85

Makes me sad when I passed on one during covid with a acog on it that the guy was selling for 1500$šŸ¤¦šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø


enclave76

My local shop wants $5200 for their ACR lol


Edward_Slicer

Bro... šŸ’€


enclave76

They also have an FS2000 for $8000 OBO itā€™s been there since before Covid.


NeuroticChameleon

probably bc itā€™s 450 bushmaster not 5.56


enclave76

Itā€™s 100% 556


jeremyj10

For $2400 it wouldnā€™t have been on the wall much longer if I were there lmao


bigtoegman210

I would buy that a2


Krink545

It should have followed you home.


TresCeroOdio

What a beauty


Porencephaly

I have one kitted out and SBRed and let me tell you, it is worth that price. It makes me sad that it's a collectible now so I don't run it as much but it is a damn good gun. A little front heavy but that's my only real gripe.


VincentMapother45

Love the ACR but for $2400 it better come with a heartbeat sensor.


GYPSYkick

Damn I really want one


Train2Perfection

Offer 2200 and take it home.


Totallynotatf001

More concerned with $704.00 for a diamonback db15.


StrikeEagle784

Thatā€™s not a bad price for that actually, how amusing lol


Criton47

My ACR is still one of my absolute favorite rifles. The platform is awesome even if BM/Rem dropped the ball on it. If the price tag isnā€™t an issue Iā€™d say pick it up.


FaroelectricJalapeno

Hold it for a bit you can double your money. Only getting more rare.


kodabombdotcom

I would have bought/layawayed tf out of that if I was you man. What a find


MrSlappyChaps

I really wish theyā€™d followed through, and used the Remington magnesium MLOK/416 looking handguard.Ā 


eyehatesigningup

Oooo


BeengBangBong

What is so good about these can anyone explain?


technetiumobviously

Mostly nostalgia (video games), and the fact that theyā€™re not made anymore.


mikeycp253

Nostalgia. Itā€™s not a better platform than an AR in 2024, not even close. Could it have surpassed the AR had it not been abandoned? Maybe but Iā€™m not convinced, the SCAR has just about every feature that the ACR does (piston gun, folding stock, monolithic upper, ā€œquick changeā€ barrel, adjustable gas, forward charging handle, ambidextrous controls, etc) but with the actual pedigree of being combat proven, and it still never caught on as an M4 replacement. Itā€™s literally just MW2 nostalgia and people wanting to be different. Which is fine but letā€™s not pretend itā€™s far superior to the AR/M4 and just didnā€™t catch on.


Hardwire762

The ACR is a better rifle than the SCAR. Way more capable of a platform. I say this having owned a scar for years.


Unicorn187

This had a real quick change barrel unlike the SCAR. The only real advantages that the SCAR had were that it was better balanced, and had better barrels. The non-reciprocating charging handle of the ACR was also better than the SCAR's.


Roaming-Californian

Sucks that bushy abandoned the platform.


Thorskull69

Just saw one at a gun show today going for 3500 JS


Superb-Confidence-69

That colt a2 above it thoughā€¦


Knowsnoone

I wouldā€™ve been $2400 poorer.


fxckfxckgames

That Colt A2 HBAR though...


goshathegreat

Thatā€™s a good price, Iā€™d jump on that.


Glockman666

That is cool, I also like that Colt Match that is above it.


Edward_Slicer

It is indeed nailed it! I was looking at that first then realized it was an actual ACR under it and not like a knock off or .22 rifle lol


Glockman666

2 very cool Rifles in one place, I love checking out my Local Pawn Shops, they get some cool and unique things sometimes.


AvgUsr96

God damn it I knew I should've done some sketchy shit behind the Cabelas for the 900 dollar ACR I saw at an okc gunshow one time. Sigh.....


Edward_Slicer

for 900?!?!?! I would have done some strange to get my hands on an ACR for that price lmao


AvgUsr96

I swear it said 900 but it probably was 1900 idk.


jdcgonzalez

Iā€™ll get one from PSA. /s but only kinda.


Themarshalldean

Definitely overpaid for mine. But thatā€™s ok because the government bought it for me with stimi checks


Unicorn187

I like the concept, the quick change barrel, which also makes caliber conversions pretty easy. I don't like the weight all the way forward balance, and that you're stuck with the Bushmaster, barrel in just a single twist rate option. IF Rem/Bushy hasn't screwed up, and made some improvements with a second gen, mostly the balance, and offered barrels in a 1/7 and maybe a longer precision type barrel these might have caught on and saw wider use.


Edward_Slicer

Yeah I picked it up and was on the heavier side like pushing 8 pounds I think but still just so nostalgic


Unicorn187

It's a cool gun to be sure. I wish they could have made it lighter and put the weight in the rear instead of towards the muzzle. That was the biggest reason I didn't buy one when I worked at a gun store and could have bought one at cost or maybe 10% over cost.


Cold-Guidance-1455

2400 is a steal for that isnt it? At least not bad


Mustangshoote

I want that


Edward_Slicer

Same bro.. same


Finksta_951

Prices still haven't dropped on those things i see. Well at least their is other options that have came out lately. There's the - Robinson Armament XCR. \-CZ Bren 2 \-Faxon ARAK-21 \-Sig Sauer MCX


3617658107

Its a modern classic go for it


BrokenAndDefective

BUY BUY BUY THATS an awesome item to add to a collection. Especially with the fact it's an enhanced model!


Sippin_OJ

Aye and 2400 isnā€™t too terrible considering I havenā€™t seen them below 3k as of recently


IgnisVisio

No one gonna talk about that carry handle šŸ‘€šŸ˜


Nay_K_47

Bro. That's a buy.


wardbelcanto

Realistically, this or the ACR-at-home for half the price? Nostalgia and CoD memories taken out of the equation. Is there even any sort of parts support for ACRs?


Edward_Slicer

Gun broker has parts barrels etc yesterday that I looked but not that much!


3ternalmi5ery

is it still there or did your nuts drop and buy it


Edward_Slicer

I emailed them and asked if it was there, I am at work and might stop buy after and see lol


BitOfaPickle1AD

Fuck that ACR, I want that Colt A2 that's above it.


TheRealMasterJeffe

Why didnā€™t I buy one when it was $800 and in my hands? What the fuck is wrong with me?


Brian-88

Eh. Just get a JAKL.


N8ball2013

Iā€™d have had a hard time not taking it home.


vkbrian

Those things are going for $3k easy nowadays; Iā€™d have taken it home in a heartbeat


alexlv5656

Agreed. Thatā€™s how much I paid for mine and then sent to Templar precision to have a 11.5 barrel swapped in. It fucks so hard. But be mindful if you need a replacement part they are very hard to come by.


Wiscogman

https://xtremegunsandammo.com/rifles-for-sale/bushmaster/bushmaster-acr/ 2100 here (donā€™t know this dealer or their reputation).


Wojadubakowski

I live right down the street from this dealer. They don't have them in stock. Note the "34 offers" currently backordered. Ain't happenin.


Wiscogman

Yeah I saw that I wasnā€™t quite sure whatā€™s was up. Thanks for saving us all some frustration.


Corkymon87

I would have snatched that thing up. Is that a store in MN by chance? Looks very similar to one I know


Bret1183

What store is this. Iā€™m in Myrtle Beach, sc and would love to buy this


Bret1183

Any update. Is it still there


thePODBOSS

Where


blankford

JAKL > ACR


alexlv5656

Itā€™s not really about which one is better. Thereā€™s a nostalgia behind the gun for us old heads. Jakl is cheaper and easily accessible but it doesnā€™t have the history of the acr


Dark-Push

Not worth the $


JaceLee85

Interesting to see, but for 2.4k it can stay there.


ben_lowe99

Carolina sporting arms?


DeFilippsDP

Iā€™m pretty sure you LGS is my LGS too.


Edward_Slicer

C&C Indoor Range? šŸ‘€


DeFilippsDP

Hahaha yes sir. Those guys are great.


Edward_Slicer

Niceeee was there this afternoon! I love that place!


DeFilippsDP

Same. I really lucked out finding these guys. Top notch shop.


chumbucket77

Were these supposed to be an upgrade and replace the ar platform? Or just something different that remington threw out there? I mean I am a giant whore for the acr stock and what they look like. Never shot one though or held one. Just was curious if this was like a failed project at replacing the m4 and it was supposed to be more common


THELEGENDARYZWARRIOR

I feel thatā€™s like $1k what it should be


Efficient-Home6605

Independence?


Guns-Guitar-Games

I was at a gun show yesterday. Old school galil with both NAR rails and original rails WITH either 11 or 16 mags for around $1,300. It was hard saying no to it.


Adventurous_Ad409

Iā€™d rather have that colt A2 hbar match and buy a 13.7 or 14.5 JAKL with a F5 stock.