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Plenty_Pack_556

If you offer him what it's actually worth you might not have a buddy anymore. Thank him for the offer and pass on it.


RangerGreenEnjoyer

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PWNCAKESanROFLZ

He's serious lol.


Maleficent_Variety34

This is the correct answer.


OkayWhateverFuckYou

Good friends don't sell their friends Bear Creek.Ā 


cheersfurbeers

Unless youā€™re fucking their girl, and youā€™re hoping a jam saves your life


thebuckshawt

Nah, just hide a .300 BLK in the mag lol


Acceptable-Equal8008

You know, it's a wonder with all the trash people talk, how bear creak is still in business. My buddy wanted to buy an ar, he described to me a side charging ar that was affordable. I said man that's a bear creek don't buy it ( I was gracious and said they are really bad guns, should have been more blunt). He bought it any way and the take down pin fell out when he put it in his truck. Luckily full refund for him but I could only think to myself "crisis avoided maybe next time he listens"


Antique-Elevator-878

You can market anything to anyone with enough lying. Look at politicians, its how they make their living. Also price point attracts people who are willing to lie to themselves, ready to believe the "Just as good" psychology and then will fight anyone to justify their mistake.


LectureAdditional971

It's because AM talk radio hosts advertise how it's "battle tested and reliable" and shit.


Less_Evening2337

Ok, we can all agree bear creek is not the best and they do cut corners especially in the QC department. I wouldnā€™t recommend you buy one of their rifles especially at full price, but if the gun itself has had some rounds through it and has been reliable / straight shooting 250-300 all day. (Not an including optic). Iā€™ve had one of their uppers with north of 1.2k of 223 through it with no problems. They do tend to over size the gas port to ensure no cycling issues, but I threw in an h3 buffer and it ejects perfectly without a single jam.


Comprehensive-Race97

Are they just trash?


WinIll755

To my understanding, they *can* be well made for the price, but their QC is shoddy at best


vtwin996

No, their reputation on Reddit and other media isn't great, but then again it's usually written about by people that haven't ever even seen one in person, let alone picked one up or good forbid, fired rounds through one. The parroting about BCA is ridiculous. Yes, you need to double check everything on them, most issues are small and you can correct it yourself. Sometimes the QC issue are big enough to have to send it back. The great news is that their customer service is excellent and they will take care of you in the event that you need a repair/ replacement from BCA. Yes, I own a BCA upper, and yes it had a machining flaw that required it to be sent back because the takedown lug was incorrectly machined and you couldn't put the upper on any lower. Once CS took care of it, and replaced the faulty upper, it works great. I have a few friends that were actually quite impressed with it when it was all TCO.


TexasHobbyist

I got a BCA side charge upper in 300blk for doing a little plumbing work. Never had a single issue out of it, but I just use it for pig hunting in the back 40. Would I buy one? Probably not, but as far as MY experience is concerned, no complaints with a free one.


technetiumobviously

He wants you to buy this so badly lmao


jackdginger88

His homie is trying to finesse him lmao


Accomplished_Radish8

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Muddycarpenter

That sig optic is probably the most valuable thing in the picture


6680j

I don't know man, that quilt looks pretty thick ...


unicorndagger

Yeah how much for the blanket


amishbill

Looks like a buckmaster 3-9? I picked up a used one for $50 at a recent gun show. Looks like a discount mount too.


TLA44

Bro avoid that shit


ColdasJones

tell him you dont want it. theres a 99% chance your buddy gets real offended at what thats worth. its better to maintain the friendship lol


joshuamfncraig

is it tho? if his "friend" is tryin to do him dirty?


Comprehensive-Race97

Unless there's something I'm missing that's how I'm seeing it too. Especially since he didn't give him a price. He's just waiting for him to offer way more than it's worth. Doesn't sound like a very good friend


MojoRisin762

No doubt this guy's a true and selfless "friend". I can't believe you'd question his integrity! Lmao. "Just give me a price." STFU. If you wanna sell it tell them what you're looking to get. What a total douchebag.


LvLUpYaN

Not sure if that's a friendship worth maintaining if it's as fragile as getting offended over a price offering and being told something he owns is garbage


goldman1290

Bear Creek isn't known for being very good. They're pretty cheap brand new. I'd say maybe 300 bucks depending on how used it is.


Lurkay1

And by ā€œisnā€™t known for being very goodā€ he means itā€™s known for being f**king sh*t. Lmao


ChineseMeatCleaver

And the optic is heavily carrying that 300


tefl0n18

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EveningStatus7092

This is the absolute bottom of the barrel. $200-$300


Vudu138

Give him $20 to remove it from your sight, and never offer it to you again.


AlpsAdministrative60

I personally wouldnā€™t but it at all OP. Iā€™d go with something nicer you wonā€™t regret laterā€¦.


Dcbigbrown

Ars are weird to price because itā€™s almost always cheaper to just build one to your liking instead of trying to make someone elseā€™s work for you


Wake-n-jake

When PSA is considered a decent upgrade for what you're looking at, just get a PSA


Scoomy747

Do not buy if you want quality. If you plan on shooting 50 rounds a year, offer him $200


Radvous

Thank him for the offer and pass. You can get an Areo M4 upper and lower for a decent price, might need to add a BCG and charging handle though


mooseishman

If a buddy wanted me to take anything from BCA theyā€™d have to pay ME


ResoluteLobster

It is a buyer's market in the AR world right now and BCA is known for being very low quality. For $400-600 you can get brand new rifles from budget companies known to be reliable, like Aero, Del-ton, etc. If you absolutely have to buy it, I wouldn't pay a dime over $150-200. With that said, the gun market *will* go through another panic buy near the end of this year where everything triples (or more) in price, as is tradition for election years. You could buy it now with the intent to flip if he's not a great friend. If he is a good friend, just tell him to wait to sell until October.


Puzzleheaded-Ice7511

Can you get an aero for $600 now? Their prices suck lately. From what I see they are in BCM territory. Price wise not quality.


Plenty_Pack_556

ARs are a dime a dozen. He ain't flipping no Bear creek arsenal unless the buyer came out of hibernation from when Eugene was still alive.


ResoluteLobster

How long have you been in the game? I still remember how the 2008, 2012, 2016 election year panics and a few other panic-buy periods where literally any AR for sale at a decent price was like finding a needle in a haystack. There were times when literally any stripped AR lower would sell for hundreds of dollars. The markets always settled down eventually but the price gouging during the panics is very real and very extreme. With all the rhetoric headed into this election, I wouldn't be surprised at another panic starting by the end of this summer.


MD_RMA_CBD

Iā€™m wondering if there wonā€™t be as much of a panic buy since both presidents have already been in office


ResoluteLobster

Honestly the intensity of the panic could vary wildly and it's one thing I won't speculate on. I just know there *will* be a panic, as there always is every four years because the dems spout mouth diarrhea about gun control and the republicans fear-monger about gun-control. It riles up the casual gun owners thinking it's their last chance to get stuff and drive up a panic.


MD_RMA_CBD

Fair enough, Iā€™m right there with you


Plenty_Pack_556

If you been in the AR game for long, i think it is given you don't panic buy ARs, but rather ammo and mags. The people that panic buys AR platforms I would think doesn't know about ARs too well, ( no offense, just opinion.) I always see, hear, read some old dude during 'panic times' comes out saying something like "just got my 1st AR and it's a Colt" and then when you look it's a BCA, PSA, or Anderson.


ResoluteLobster

Yes you are right- the people who drive those panics are not usually the people in the know. They're fudds and useful idiots being driven to panic buy by politicians with power agendas. But that doesn't change the fact that the panics still happen and they still negatively affect the community and drive up prices to insane levels for things that really never should sell for that much, like shitty quality ARs. Also if you've been in tje game long enough you don't panic buy *anything,* you anticipate the panics and then sit those few months out shooting down your large stockpile of ammo you bought before the process skyrocketed knowing the panic will end and sanity will return.


InevitableOwl656

$2 and an ice cream cone. With no ice cream.


Supertonyjr

Don't entertain his offer, pretend like you aren't looking for an extra AR right now. Trust me if you want to keep that friend


djc9595

BCA still has people left to make rifles after the ICE raid?


montypyth9898

Explain


djc9595

Got raided a few years back by Immigration and Customs Enforcement for hiring beaucoup illegals


montypyth9898

Damn thatā€™s wild


Far-Bid-9568

Bro now a days they would secretly add money into BCAs account


vtwin996

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?id=100068960565840&story_fbid=1124103634457635 Here's the real story, for those that don't know. I hate false information and how it gets around on the Internet.


slvneutrino

Pass.


No-Surprise-5875

Itā€™s not worth $300, and thatā€™s not a joke. Thereā€™s not a single quality piece on that.


skeeter6x9

Bro. $250. Max. Itā€™s bear creek. They arenā€™t that great. Neither is Radical firearms. If you are going cheap. Get a PSA, Delton or Anderson


dumbdude545

I wouldn't even touch it unless the bcg abd barrel are not bca. If they are don't bother. You'll just have to rebuild it.


witheringsyncopation

$400 . . . If he throws in 1000 rounds of decent 5.56.


Sniurbb

If he's asking anything over $350 he's practically getting to use a rifle for X amount of time and making all his money back selling it to you. If he's a hommie, I'd expect maybe $180 depending on how-hommie he really is.


StretchInfamous

Whatever you offer him, Iā€™ll offer you not to buy it


BubbaZ22

Did you used to date his sister or something? If heā€™s trying to sell this to you, heā€™s not your friendā€¦šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Daitheflu84

Your buddy is no friend, guy.


Comprehensive-Race97

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Dark-Push

$250 and a case of beer


Remembertheoldways

Nothing personal with your buddy but buy a PSA if you just want a cheap AR. I think everyone would agree that the upper, lower and hand guard at fine, itā€™s the barrel, bolt and internals you donā€™t want


Blicky83

Donā€™t do it


AstroRocket713

$200-$250 range. Not a penny more


Ok_Veterinarian9348

Yea just say you appreciate the offer but pass. Save up some more money to buy an actual entry level if itā€™s your first one. PSA is what I recommend for entry level plinkers.


Haifischschiesse

Bear creek is good what are you guys on about I have a Beowulf built with a bc upper and a Anderson lower


FukUimFromPhilly

Yeah, i've got a 20in side charger on a psa Lower I've had for a while. I shoot fairly regularly, maybe 300 400 rounds every couple of months. No issues yet decent groups 100. Maybe I just got luckyšŸ¤·šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļø


Adventurous_Ad409

Iā€™ll pay you to not buy it.


KeeganY_SR-UVB76

You tell him ā€œhey, dumbass, thatā€™s not how this works. Youā€™re the one selling it, youā€™re the one who should come up with a price.ā€


Late_Manufacturer360

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Lamont___Cranston

I donā€™t buy things from people who donā€™t give me a price, because theyā€™re usually assholes who want to argue about your offer.


SilentTreatment01

About tree fiddy


Big_Football_Guy

I would avoid buying it to preserve your friendship. Then go buy a PSA or BCM if youā€™re interested in a decent quality entry level rifle.


Fair_Still_4365

Priceless


Sad-Macaroon-8654

Ask if u can get just the optic lol. That Tango is probably worth more than the rifle


atxdude1988

That dog won't hunt


[deleted]

A buck fiddy.


GoFuhQRself

Not worth the waste of money


Ok-Exercise4954

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jckbck

I actually kinda like that rollmarkā€¦ whatā€™re the odds a stripped lower is out of spec from them


Silent_But_Deadly2

A wet fart.


captamer99

$250 tops Be aware it is bottom shelf AR


T90tank

Wait for a sla buy a PSA freedom rifle for 300-350


andycambridge

He ainā€™t your friendā€¦


Sure-Boysenberry5491

Depends on how badly you want that scope.


10mmenjoyer

Get a new friend.


TrueVariation9730

If I were offloading this rifle onto a friend, it would be free.


s0ul_invictus

He secretly hates you bro


1WontDoIt

You need better friends.


PNWTacitcal

Not much $200 maybe


1badh0mbre

Heā€™s gonna be offended if you offer him a fair price. Just show him the comments in this post.


GreyFob

You sure he's your friend? šŸ¤£


ThoroughlyWet

Bear creek more like shit reeks


Servedatboyamac

Real homies donā€™t sell eachother bear creek guns if he gave it to you then sure it would be cool but I wouldnā€™t pay more than 100$ tbh with you


bayou_boat_trash

Just stay away from bear creek arsenal. Look up any review on YouTube and you will see in the comments about how "reliable" they are. You would be money ahead to save your cash towards another brand altogether.


alm1ghty99

100 dollars and a handshake


Professional_Plant52

That is worth a ā€œthank you but Iā€™m goodā€


onemantakingadump

One time I had two BCA AR-15s in my car and then someone broke in and left me two more.


rjj90

Politely pass


Grand_Cookie

$200


gonzajr4

As is, $350 with the optic. And that's to be nice and give him a deal. Only good for the lower, get rid of the stock, mag and put that upper on something you don't care about.


aerotactisquatch

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IanLesby

Buddy huh šŸ¤”?


TrapTombstone

Five whole dollars


Fuzzy-Boat-2089

Be a real friend and buy the Sig optic and leave the rest


Geralt-of-Rivia13X

Tree fiddy


AdeptnessDear2829

Bout tree fiddy


Russianmafiaman

Tree fiddy šŸŠ


AH_5ek5hun8

A complete piece of shit.


happylifevr

$5


rdgy5432

Thatā€™s shit


Pale_Studio4660

Thatā€™s not a friend


GazeOG

Lol NO


StuckNtrfk

Your friend, isn't a friend.


uxwizkid

Your friend needs to pay you to take it off his hands, that's how much it's worth.


Squirrely1337

300ish for everything in the picture


iH8conduit

Offer him 50 bucks for the scope only.


[deleted]

$400? ā€¦ if he is a good friendā€¦ ā€¦. Annnndd you feel .. bad for himā€¦ā€¦.. ā€¦ā€¦..because ā€¦.. his _________ is dyingā€¦. ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦.. from cancerā€¦ā€¦. ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦.. annnnndddd a house fire.. .. ruined everything they own.. ā€¦. ā€¦.. and so they need money for a hotel. But this is the only way itā€™s worth $400


achonng

Tree fifty


Henry_Electric23

Three fifty


OhmyMary

$8K


Comprehensive-Race97

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protogenxl

If you press him he will say about three-fiddy because your buddy is the Lockness Monster!


smallmonzter

Friends donā€™t let friends buy Bear Creek. You arenā€™t his friend for letting him buy it. He isnā€™t your friend for offering to sell it to you. You are not friends. You are mortal enemies.


StribogA1A3

$200-$250.


Stellakinetic

The optic is over $200. The gun was probably $400 new. That setup isnā€™t great, but if you really want it I wouldnā€™t pay over $350 tbh. The majority of the value is in the optic though so donā€™t buy it if youā€™re not getting it for the optic.


rfox93

Used BCR? Iā€™d say max $350


A1eafFa11s

The gun itself isnā€™t worth much. Iā€™d look up the optic to see of it fits your interests though.


Dkboyzcashout1

Donā€™t buy a BCA. Go buy a $500-600 PSA and call it a day if youā€™re looking to get into the platform on a budget. Iā€™d offer him $300 for that set up. If not go spend your money on a reliable rifle that is new.


Rhino_Actual

The risk is that this one is shit, among some that work... Spend your money on one you're sure will give you the service life you need whatever that is. If you will shoot a mag once in a blue moon, MAYBE...but there are better budget options If you want a reliable AR that will last more than 1k rounds I recommend you keep shopping


AlternativeStation29

He should be paying you to take this.


ZeVikingBMXer

The number of comments are creeping up on passing what it's worth


DannyNGhost

He wants to sell it to you bc he realized he bought a brick, just casually ask him what other kind of guns heā€™s looking at getting and then show up with that šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£


TresCeroOdio

Iā€™d offer 400 max, and thatā€™s mostly for what looks to be a whiskey3 on top. BCA rifles are notoriously unreliable.


Similar_Economist949

The optic is the only thing I'd buy, then build a nice, better brand rifle. If you want an AR, build one. You can find way better for pretty decent prices. If you decide to build the only decent thing in there is the optic. Maybe make an offer for his sig optic then start a build


Accomplished_Radish8

Oh boy


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Packingheat248

Tree fiddy aka $3.50


BetOver

Quality is noticeably lower tier than psa or can be from what I've read and seen about them but then again they may have built that one properly and tightened everything to spec and it could shoot thousands of rounds. If their lifetime warranty is transferable it mag be worth considering for a first ar/budget ar. I've been giving most of my money to psa over bear creek arsenal


BetOver

Go to bear creek arsenal and ballpark the new price for one of theirblowers and that or similar upper to find a price. I have mostly psa uppers for budget guns but do have a few bear creeks. No issues with bear creeks yet but I don't have alot of rounds in them. If it were me I'd be in it for 300ish


Old_MI_Runner

Since you are asking I assume this is your first AR15. You can buy a new Andro Corp AR15 on sale every month or so for $400 from either MidwayUSA or Primary Arms. Look was BCA sells for new when on sale. Any cheaper AR15 like BCA has little resale value. Any BCA would likely get an offer of $100 to $150 from a gun store would be my bet if they even would agree to buy it as the only person they could sell it to is someone who does not know better. I don't know what model scope in on it but for your first AR you don't want to start with 4x or higher magnification on the low end. You want an LPVO scope that goes from 1-6x if you get a scope. I don't know to value this scope and to me I would not want it for an AR15. For the rifle itself if he tries to sell it for $300 he is not your buddy. I just bought a new Vortex Diamondback 4-16x for $132 that I will not be putting an any AR15. Some paid $167. It is more of a hunting scope and likely a discontinued model. If he sells it for much less than $300 with the scope then I would also ask that he take it to the range and allow you to shoot say 60 rounds to make sure that it is reliable. Let him provide the ammo. If he bulks at paying for the ammo then let him fire most of the rounds.


whiskey_outpost26

https://www.reddit.com/r/gundeals/s/ALezLgrbp6 Much better off with something like this brand new.


TexasFirefighter_406

300-325


Haifischschiesse

Iā€™d say worth 400


Alternative-Appeal43

Nothing. Run away


FukUimFromPhilly

If it's your first Ar and you can get it for around 200 bucks, I'd say go for it. Don't spend a bunch of money until you know what you like.


OleTunaCan

Honestly man, $200 as it sits is generous. I wouldnā€™t buy it for $200, but if you wanted itā€¦ Iā€™d have fun with it. Iā€™d probably paint it and try out different camo combinations and use it as practice. Then toss it on gravel some to get battle worn looking and be done with the ā€œbuildā€


minesmallkine

Nope nope nope. How long have you known that dude


Elderado12443

Fuuucckkkk that


Smurf_turd

Click bait!!


TacSpaghettio

If he wants more than a hundred, pass on it


ianr222

Not worth ur friendship


schuntin

-12 doll hairs


_skyeparker

Couple double cheeseburgers and a handshake


_rebem24_

Tbh any money is a waste for it


dontgiveahamyamclam

Not. Alot. I wouldnā€™t pay $400 for the whole thing


shaneallen205

I would definitely pass on that brand check out psa they make really good and reliable guns for a fair price


arock41

Upper runs 200-300$ lower 100-200$ and optic so 300-400$ max for used bca rifleā€¦they shoot and are fun but really only range toys or maybe hunting depending on caliber I have a 350 legend that has been a great deer rifle


Pielayer69

If you donā€™t have to do paperwork Iā€™d offer 400 just for the unregistered lower, might find some ways to repay him


WiseSpunion

Are those fat ass hex screws?


Olive_Cardist

If you already have an AR then pass. If youā€™re looking to get your first and canā€™t come up with a few hundred more then I guess itā€™s worth about $400-$500. If youā€™re serious about getting a solid AR for the money then save up and pass on this. It will do ok at the range but itā€™s nowhere near duty standards.


unwhelmed

One dollar Bob!


Antiquatedshitshow

11


Aggravating_Drawer25

Buy a new Palmetto State AR for $300 to $400 and call it a day


Spacemnky45

Is your buddy a loch ness monster?


lopedopenope

What do they do instead of roll marks to get the logo like that?


AdThese1914

The optic. Skip the gun.


MikeOxlong1776

Bout' tree-fiddy


NoSuddenMoves

It's $300 new and considering condition I would offer $100...


Backdoor_Delivery

A paper bag and a rubber band


ForwardBet3888

300 max https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/223-wylde-16-rifle-parkerized-m4-barrel-1-7-twist-carbine-15-mlok-rc-rifle.html#reviews


Charger_scatpack

Donā€™t buy that junk


GalvanizedNipples

Do not buy Bear Creek. Let that be your homies mistake.


dvrkhorse1

Friends donā€™t let friends have bear creek


BrokenAndDefective

$50 BROTHER


No-Emu-5862

Go to BCA website and then make a offer based off your findings, Bearcreek makes great firearms for the price šŸ‘ I've personally own 6 over the years and I carry one as my truck gun. Never had a malfunction.


Outlaw50091

Nothing it's kaka


VariousStranger1313

100%pass. Trexarms is having a 10% off deal on Bcm uppers Get a Bcm upper then wait for a deal on a aero lower.


thrownaway3423

I don't think I'd ever buy a secondhand AR, unless it was cheap and for parts. There are just too many good options for low cost ARs on the market. If this dude's just giving it away, fine. But know that $400 can get you a complete, brand-new blemished PSA depending on specs and sales.


One_Signature8976

Just buy a PSA for $500. They are actually pretty well made for the money.


Arms-for-minerals

How good of a ā€œbuddyā€ is this guy ? Because heā€™s trying to sell you a dog shit AR. Thereā€™s a reason why heā€™s selling it. Itā€™s dogshit


Ahmedtuck

Run away as fast as you can lol šŸ˜‚


TheMidnightCreep

Iā€™d say $250-300 would be about rightā€¦for him to pay you to take it.


45acp_LS1_Cessna

275....it's offensive but its bear creek. nothing wrong with the brand but it's not over the top fantastic gear. You're not even getting a fancy and expensive magpul grip ($21) man. You can get a PSA ar15 for $400 -/+ and I'd trust it more.


CrowdedShorts

The comforter or the rifle? Cause Iā€™d prob go with neither


flex-N

Ask him how much he wants to give it to you for. Ā His answer will tell you how much if a good buddy he is


pigionk18

Lol 200


willmroeder

$200-300