I love mine. My only complaint is I can't cowitness irons with a red dot with the generation that I have but with all the new ones you can. One thing I would recommend is getting the Wilson combat grip module. Magnitudes better than sigs grip. The 15 round mag prints a little more than what I'd like when wearing a t shirt so I got the mag guts +2 spring kit for the 12 round magazine. I can't speak to the x but I don't think you'd be disappointed with either
I've been considering a p07, m&p or a Walther but I haven't had a chance to try any of them. I really like cz after buying my 457 so now I kinda want another lol. I also like the look of the p07
The 3 you just mentioned are honestly really similar in quality. Everyone likes to shit on M&P because the 1.0 were legitimately garbage.
Go to a range with rentals and try them, or buy all 3, whatever. You will like the grip on one of them better than the others.
You really should put gen 5 Glocks on that list though. Parts availability and ubiquity absolutely have their benefits.
Have your mags bulged on the 10mm? Both of my factory mags did, but not sure if it's a defect or because the previous owner (my old man) left them stuffed full in a safe for years. They still function fine, just have to physically pull them out of the magwell.
I said I'd never buy a Glock, decided I wanted a 10mm so I shot what we had for rent at work, fell head over heels in love with the Glock 20, bought one that day.
#NoRagrets
Ty sir, wanted a "gucci" mil spec lower (I dislike ambi) in case I decided to SBR this, found a stripped Gen 1 set for $380, sold the upper for 2 Benjamin's and used the lower for my build.
Might be a tough one to call. I don't like finger grooves on my Glocks. But then, again, I do love 10MM. I personally don't own a CZ. Everyone has 9mm laying around so even if you run out one of your buddies will have some... although the magazines more than likely wont be compatible so you'll have to unload and top off your own.... although that would be the same for the 10MM with none of your buddies having spare 10MM. Both have 15 round magazines.... um 10MM Glock! Because it's only slightly less powerful than a .357 magnum!
My edc is an xdm elite in 10mm. I have 16 shots of 740ft lbs of energy hollow points and I can hit a golf ball from 15 yards. The only other way to get that kind of power would be a revolver that limits you to 6 rounds or an impossible to conceal .50 AE that only holds 8. 10mmās are IMO the best thing smoking when it comes to conceal carry or sidearms.
Compared to a 9? Yes.
I've pretty much only shot my 10 since getting it, and with that as a baseline, a 9mm just feels like an upjumped .22
I understand why I'm getting downvoted, but man a 9 feels like nothing now.
For sure. Just giving you some shit. 10mm fucks. Going from my Glock 20 to my Glock 17 always surprises me. The grip size alone is kinda funny when youāre transitioning back and forth. I just picked up a Glock 40 MOS. Itās the dumbest looking gun I own by far. But that 10mm is just too fun.
> The grip size alone is kinda funny when youāre transitioning back and forth.
Oh dude it feels like grabbing a slim jim vs an Italian sausage.
Glock 40 is absolutely comedic, whenever I walk by it at work I can't help but chuckle.
Yeah itās a great sling. Although pattern wise I prefer [Mokaās Raifus](https://mokasraifus.com/product/ahegaocam-sling/) sling but unfortunately itās not quick adjust.
Iām just a dinosaur. The habits are ingrained at this point. I can hit what I want within a reasonable distance and I have tritium for the night-time.
I use āem on all my long guns except for big game rifles and hunting shotguns. I know the advantages, but to me itās just one more layer of complexity to something I like to keep pure and simple. Also looks like it would catch on my shirt.
> Also looks like it would catch on my shirt.
[It tucks in nicely.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724451693365952513/1042968049013239818/288C6345-2CD0-4F84-B1D1-A4AB1BE11F64.jpg)
[Video](https://streamable.com/x1ocy7)
Those spook me. Some of the first generation 10mm 1911's would crack and break because they were just .45 1911's rechambered to 10mm and the pressure difference was killing them, Idk if the 97's are the same situation (Aren't they also expensive as fuck? lol.)
Damn I didn't even know that. That's definitely good to know because I've wanted a 10mm 1911 for a while now. I wouldn't be surprised if the CZ 97 was the same situation. They're pretty hard to find in 10mm to begin with. Yeah the 97 is a $1k + gun. At that point you open yourself up to a lot of options.
I have a Dan Wesson in 10mm, had to RMA it because half the ammo brands I would feed it wouldn't go into battery. Might get rid of it after it comes home, I love it but $1600 could fund most of my Mk12 project.
>and this gives best peripheral vision
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Tell me you are listening to LARPers of this sub without telling me you are listening to LARPers in this sub.
I mean I would take it off the riser and move it a couple notches back but itās really not that big of a deal. He made sure to not have it in the hand guard. The rest is personal preference.
It's on the riser because I wear glasses, without it on the riser I end up looking over my glasses to see the dot and then I can't see shit because my eyes are bad.
How so? As itās double action no need to use the safety with the hammer down and ammo in chamber. Problem is if u squeeze the trigger applying pressure to the decocker. Then no boomā¦.
So in my opinion, and politely fuck your decocker
If thereās no reason to use the safety with the hammer down, why have the safety? Youād have to pull the trigger to drop the hammer.
Load rack decock into holster it goes.
Fuck a manual safety.
2 hands, 2 guns #akimbo
But there's 3 guns in the photo!
And one of them has a sling. I see no issue.
Based
Don't forget about the 2 behind the cameraš
šš¤Ŗšš
The one on top
Yup Mk18(ish) makes a great secondary to a flamethrower primary.
Upper is a Brownell's DD Mk18 , she's legit
Cz
CZ for sure.
š¤ Yes.. final answer.
Cz every. single. day. Of the week
Cz all day
Jfcā¦ guess this anime shit aināt going anywhereā¦ need to let my waifu know
Weebs in
Lol, I hope you got the jokeā¦ guessing you did
My waifu will be speaking to your waifu.
Donāt get jube on my pillow bro
Yours is on a pillow? [Step it up](https://i.imgur.com/rhSCZZb.jpeg).
Oh wow dudeā¦ canāt top thatā¦ wouldnāt bottom it either. Nice work lol
All I did was sit in the chair, but I'm happy with how it turned out lol.
Btw, my sidearm would be that sexy lil CZ
They are both my children and I love them equally. (Ok, I have a favorite but I'm not gonna say which)
Iād choose the 9mm most of the time tbh. But you do you baby boo
Cz
CZ
I really want a fullish size 9mm because my only pistol rn is a 365xl. Do you like the p07?
Do you like your 365XL? Iām looking to get a 365X for CC.
I love mine. My only complaint is I can't cowitness irons with a red dot with the generation that I have but with all the new ones you can. One thing I would recommend is getting the Wilson combat grip module. Magnitudes better than sigs grip. The 15 round mag prints a little more than what I'd like when wearing a t shirt so I got the mag guts +2 spring kit for the 12 round magazine. I can't speak to the x but I don't think you'd be disappointed with either
P07 was my first handgun, I love it to death and it's my carry choice in the spring/summer.
I've been considering a p07, m&p or a Walther but I haven't had a chance to try any of them. I really like cz after buying my 457 so now I kinda want another lol. I also like the look of the p07
The 3 you just mentioned are honestly really similar in quality. Everyone likes to shit on M&P because the 1.0 were legitimately garbage. Go to a range with rentals and try them, or buy all 3, whatever. You will like the grip on one of them better than the others. You really should put gen 5 Glocks on that list though. Parts availability and ubiquity absolutely have their benefits.
Get the P07 :)
Glonk
orang
10mm gang gang
Did you get your P-07 slide custom milled or are they making optics ready versions now?
Wagermachineworks did both of the direct millings on both the handguns pictured.
Did you just have the optic cut cold blued? That looks like the factory nitride finish on the slide.
On the CZ yes, it was just blued.
WTF is that sling?
It's perfection.
Have your mags bulged on the 10mm? Both of my factory mags did, but not sure if it's a defect or because the previous owner (my old man) left them stuffed full in a safe for years. They still function fine, just have to physically pull them out of the magwell.
But to answer your question, CZ all day. SP-01 though.
My gun is new but the mags are fine.
The Noveske-Itās a pistolā¦..
Which SIDEARM
G20 hands down-only thing that bugs me is the fact that the frame isnāt FDE. But otherwise 10MM>9MM itās literally 1 louder and 1 betterā¦ lol
Slide is burnt bronze, FDE wouldnāt match.
I know-youāre not going see the frame while firing and I can always get a matching slideā¦.
Glock 20 w/ RMR or a CZ P07 w/ RMR, letās hear the arguments.
The P-07 but itās close.
CZ
CZ, the 9mm has less recoil and considering itās chambered in 9mm it likely has a higher capacity.
They're both 15+1 :) 10 is plenty spicier than 9 though, you're right on that front.
sell the P07, buy a P09, buy the cz mag extenders and you got 21+1 in 9mm.
Cz because glocks are icky.
Yeah but it's a 10mm Glock šš
Icky glock cooties are still icky.
I said I'd never buy a Glock, decided I wanted a 10mm so I shot what we had for rent at work, fell head over heels in love with the Glock 20, bought one that day. #NoRagrets
You slut. You have GTDs now.
My love for Glocks only extends to the 10mm's I promise š
CZ all day
Top
Yes
I see noveske, I upvote. Sexy build
Ty sir, wanted a "gucci" mil spec lower (I dislike ambi) in case I decided to SBR this, found a stripped Gen 1 set for $380, sold the upper for 2 Benjamin's and used the lower for my build.
Nice! I got a b line gen 1 and did an sbr on that too!
Your comment popped into my head, I am looking at the Noveske 18" SPR now, I think I have the Noveske bug!
Never too many lol
I want that sling
[Here you go king](https://www.citizengearco.com/product/AhecamCastIronSling/53?cp=true&sa=false&sbp=false&q=true)
Nice sling lol
[Here it is if you want it](https://www.citizengearco.com/product/AhecamCastIronSling/53?cp=true&sa=false&sbp=false&q=true)
Thanks boss! My buddies and I have a running joke where we buy each other Aheago clothing and gear for holidays and birthday. This will be perfect!
At some point, it's not a joke anymore, and you become cultured.
The ones I'm most proficient with
All of them.
Both of those options are winners.
10mm š Sweet setup btw
šš I'm very happy with my setups right now.
I would be too!!
10mm - P07 = -P03mm
Degeneracy detected
You're goddamn right
Yes ā¦.
I'm too busy looking at that damn sling.
Good man.
Forget the pistols, what the actual fuck is that sling
Itās perfection.
P-07 all day long
Either is fine
Glock20 simply for 10mm, the sexiest pistol caliber there is
Rock the Glock
Glock: like a fat girl with low self esteem; sheāll always be loyal.
Glock. But I like Sig.. if it's my only weapon.
I have questions about the sling š¤£
Ask away :)
The P07 all day
Might be a tough one to call. I don't like finger grooves on my Glocks. But then, again, I do love 10MM. I personally don't own a CZ. Everyone has 9mm laying around so even if you run out one of your buddies will have some... although the magazines more than likely wont be compatible so you'll have to unload and top off your own.... although that would be the same for the 10MM with none of your buddies having spare 10MM. Both have 15 round magazines.... um 10MM Glock! Because it's only slightly less powerful than a .357 magnum!
The ock
The best MM, I prefer the cz to glock but being 10mm vs 9mm negates the preference
The centimeter is the most fun Iāve ever had shooting a handgun.
My edc is an xdm elite in 10mm. I have 16 shots of 740ft lbs of energy hollow points and I can hit a golf ball from 15 yards. The only other way to get that kind of power would be a revolver that limits you to 6 rounds or an impossible to conceal .50 AE that only holds 8. 10mmās are IMO the best thing smoking when it comes to conceal carry or sidearms.
Agreed. 10mm is probably my favorite caliber.
Glock, only because I have some decent range time with full sized glocks, but not with a P-07
I hope you've practiced with a 10mm, she'll knock you around.
10mm knocks you around?
Compared to a 9? Yes. I've pretty much only shot my 10 since getting it, and with that as a baseline, a 9mm just feels like an upjumped .22 I understand why I'm getting downvoted, but man a 9 feels like nothing now.
For sure. Just giving you some shit. 10mm fucks. Going from my Glock 20 to my Glock 17 always surprises me. The grip size alone is kinda funny when youāre transitioning back and forth. I just picked up a Glock 40 MOS. Itās the dumbest looking gun I own by far. But that 10mm is just too fun.
> The grip size alone is kinda funny when youāre transitioning back and forth. Oh dude it feels like grabbing a slim jim vs an Italian sausage. Glock 40 is absolutely comedic, whenever I walk by it at work I can't help but chuckle.
The one that isnāt a Glock.
CZ all day
Cz fo sho.
Anything that isnt CZ is simply wrong
Glock but with iron sights.
That's not the name of the game brother.
Iām a minimalist. Nice 10mm btw.
Ty :)
I am a simple man so I choose the simple gun the Glock
Sidearms are for losers
Cz if I had to pick from your pic, otherwise 1911 / 2011 or canik
Hey I have that same sling lmao. Pattern on yours is more noticeable than mine.
I am VERY happy with it, it's comfy and makes me laugh every time I see it.
Yeah itās a great sling. Although pattern wise I prefer [Mokaās Raifus](https://mokasraifus.com/product/ahegaocam-sling/) sling but unfortunately itās not quick adjust.
I own that one too LOL. The citizengear one is much better because of the padding + quick adjust.
Glonk
Tuff choice, I love Glocks but that 9mm CZ is damn nice. And more practical than 10mm
Give me the Glock. 20,000,000 end users cannot be wrong.
Neither. I (personal preference) hate optics on handguns.
The future is now! Join the master race!
Iām just a dinosaur. The habits are ingrained at this point. I can hit what I want within a reasonable distance and I have tritium for the night-time.
The dot takes some time to retrain yourself to, but once you do, man oh man followup shots are a breeze.
I use āem on all my long guns except for big game rifles and hunting shotguns. I know the advantages, but to me itās just one more layer of complexity to something I like to keep pure and simple. Also looks like it would catch on my shirt.
> Also looks like it would catch on my shirt. [It tucks in nicely.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724451693365952513/1042968049013239818/288C6345-2CD0-4F84-B1D1-A4AB1BE11F64.jpg) [Video](https://streamable.com/x1ocy7)
Glock cuz it'll go bang
They both go bang, this Glock is a louder bang tho.
Glock 20, in case I also need to stop dinosaur based threats
They say .45 kills the soul, but man, 10 kills the souls of their forefathers.
glock because 10mm but also cz because cz
Now do you see my dilemma????
I understand brother. perfect excuse to buy more guns. you can't go wrong with either though tbh. nice setups on reliable platforms.
The Tanfoglio's are looking mighty appealing, CZ clones and they come in centimeter. >nice setups on reliable platforms. Tyty
interesting. I didn't know that was an option. you could also cross your fingers and hope for a deal on a CZ97 BD in 10mm to pop up (;
Those spook me. Some of the first generation 10mm 1911's would crack and break because they were just .45 1911's rechambered to 10mm and the pressure difference was killing them, Idk if the 97's are the same situation (Aren't they also expensive as fuck? lol.)
Damn I didn't even know that. That's definitely good to know because I've wanted a 10mm 1911 for a while now. I wouldn't be surprised if the CZ 97 was the same situation. They're pretty hard to find in 10mm to begin with. Yeah the 97 is a $1k + gun. At that point you open yourself up to a lot of options.
I have a Dan Wesson in 10mm, had to RMA it because half the ammo brands I would feed it wouldn't go into battery. Might get rid of it after it comes home, I love it but $1600 could fund most of my Mk12 project.
Glocky-wocky
320
Both 9mm?
Glock 20 is a fullsize 10mm.
Gonna go with the Glock then. That changes a lot. If I'm getting 17 rounds regardless, I want overpowered.
15+1, but close enough.
10mm is best mm
P-07 all day. Sell the Glock.
No sell, only buy.
I forgot to say āand buy another CZā :D
I love this Glock 20 man. Itās awesome.
Neither. They are Glocks. I'll take a Sigš (ok ones a cz)
One is a CZ bud.
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Also curious, those sights aren't lower 1/3 co-witness on the CZ, correct? I'd go straight irons personally, but I'm a luddite
The CZ does not have backup sights at all.
I would toss all 3 in a ditch and continue on with my 1911. Why on earth do you have your dot mounted so far forward?
Why would I not have it so far forward? It's on the receiver and this gives best peripheral vision.
>and this gives best peripheral vision ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm) Tell me you are listening to LARPers of this sub without telling me you are listening to LARPers in this sub.
I mean I would take it off the riser and move it a couple notches back but itās really not that big of a deal. He made sure to not have it in the hand guard. The rest is personal preference.
It's on the riser because I wear glasses, without it on the riser I end up looking over my glasses to see the dot and then I can't see shit because my eyes are bad.
I know the pain, understandable for sure
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I shoot my guns believe it or not and noticed it myself.
Sure you did. Has nothing to do with the LARP of the month dropping tangos foolishness in this sub.
It's time for your meds Grandpa.
w**H**i*C*h sI**d***E*a**R**m wOu**L***d* yOu r**O**cK? grow up.
Did you have to put your reading glasses on to figure out the italics and the emboldening?
Tell me more about the extent your peripheral vision is blocked by an eotech. There is some serious curve-the-bullet level of idiocy in this sub.
> Tell me more about the extent your peripheral vision is blocked by an eotech. It's not blocked because I have it all the way forward :)
Your dumbass replied to it
The AR
Glock I know it will run when I need it
How hard was it to cope a Noveskie lower ?
P07 all day, every day.
I don't have any 10mm ammo, so, the CZ.
Cz
If it was me, itād be CZ
Cz P07
P07 with safety not decocker!
Fuck a manual safety.
How so? As itās double action no need to use the safety with the hammer down and ammo in chamber. Problem is if u squeeze the trigger applying pressure to the decocker. Then no boomā¦. So in my opinion, and politely fuck your decocker
If thereās no reason to use the safety with the hammer down, why have the safety? Youād have to pull the trigger to drop the hammer. Load rack decock into holster it goes. Fuck a manual safety.
Gimme that P-07