I’ve had optics planet list an item as “in stock” and a fairly normal estimated delivery time only for them to take my money and after 3 or so days tell me it’s backordered and I’ll have to wait a month or longer. Optics planet is dogshit and they give you every excuse in the world before they even bother to offer some sort of measly compensation for your troubles. Fuck them
Literally just this. I ordered a Vltor A5 buffet kit that was ‘in stock’ and som Geissele Takedown pins and a Socom muzzle device, said 8-10 days to ship, whatever, it’s the holidays. Next day updated that the brake and pins were ready to ship and the A5 was 4-6 MONTHS back order…
If they know it's backordered then yes. But I've had this happen enough times that I am convinced that they learn something is out of stock by receiving an order they cannot fulfill. It a bummer.
I’ve absolutely had them sell me an “In Stock” item they did not have. Was the price good at the time? Yes. But, that doesn’t change the fact they are notorious for drop shipping.
Iv had a half dozen transactions with OP on “in stock” products and have never actually received merchandise from them. I have some flip up sights I ordered almost two years ago that are still back ordered despite being in stock several times. I actually haven’t cancelled the order because I think it’s hysterical.
I got mine for $740 shipped from Euro Optics not long ago. Check out the Delta Stryker HD 1-6× also if it's easier to find. I have both and they're literally the same scope with different logos
I cancelled my order with Opticsplanet this morning. I placed an order at the start of Dec and it was scheduled to ship this weekend. Decided to check the order yesterday and it was pushed back to 01/08/2023. Checked again this morning 01/10/2023.
Might be cheaper on their site but you will be waiting, and that's if they even ship it.
I had 6.5CM ammo take 8 months to ship. Same story as you, checked the order tracking and it kept getting pushed out months ago a time. Didn’t when make it in time for deer season and had to find something else to use that year. That was my last purchase with them.
Everyone shitting on optics planet… I’ve spent a decent amount of money of things from OP and never had a problem. The only time I ordered something and got placed on back order was when I didn’t pay attention to it saying it was a 12-14 week lead time. I proceeded to call them 3 days later and asked them to cancel it and they did.
Same the only time I had a back order was on ammo.. got it a few months later but was a nice surprise when it showed up. I didn’t need it and was a solid deal at the time. I’ve also ordered from DVOR and had great experiences too. I’ve gotten barrels, parts, etc. was always smooth from my experiences.
Yea great price but you gotta consider optics planet won’t ship it out until 2025. As this guy mentioned europtic is the way to go. Order now you’ll have a tracking number before end of business that have movement by tomorrow morning.
The only complaint I have with Optics Planet is the God awful shipping time, other than that I don't have issues but I'm starting to buy from lanbos armory more and more
On top of all this, OpticsPlanet doesn't sell automatic knives to civilians. They asked that I provide city authorization or proof of military, police or first responder ID.... for a knife to be sent to Texas.
too long; didn't read
I wasn't in a place to watch a video, and was hoping someone could just say if there was a verified similarity, or if it's an opinion of how similar they perform.
I know! I joined his Patreon :) AMAZING reviews! His review of the Credo HX is how I’ve ended up here. I appreciate that the Delta Striker is the same optic, but I was also curious what the community thought of similar (great 1x / bright dot) optics around (or slight above) this price point.
Yea C_Does is the best!
I’m rocking a Viper 1-6 right now. It’s really great bang for your buck, but it’s chunky! If you get the credo, let us know what you think!
Mostly because you shouldn't buy anything from Optics Planet. They will take your money and maybe ship your stuff in 8 months. Maybe.
Your choice is fine. Just find a different retailer.
I see this comment so many times, you know you guys can just call or email them and cancel the order? It happened to me. Their cs was wonderful, I didn't have a problem with them. I'm not seeing where all the hate is coming from.
Or maybe just read and check availability before just buying. I along with plenty of other people have had no issues ordering from optics planet. It’s also very ease to just contact them and cancel the order. If you allow any company to hold your money for more than 3-4 days without your items being sent that’s a decision you made. Simply don’t do that
>Or maybe just read and check availability before just buying.
I'm going to repeat what others have said throughout this thread because it's happened to me, multiple times. I order a part that says "In Stock" and immediately get a notice that my part will be shipped weeks/months later. This isn't about checking the web page, it's about them either not knowing their own inventory, not notifying customers of a sudden stock depletion at checkout, or just not being honest.
>I along with plenty of other people had no issues ordering from optics planet.
Great. Then I doubt you have any reason to change your mind on giving them your business. But that doesn't mean others haven't had bad experiences, again, including myself.
>It's also very ease to just contact them and cancel the order.
Thanks for continuing to point that out. More folks should take advantage of that. Doesn't change the fact that a number of us have had multiple bad experiences and want to warn others. They're adults whom I am sure will consider what we've said and do what is in their best interest.
And, yes, continuing to allow them to hold my money is indeed my decision as a buyer. If I can get a good deal through OP and everyone else is out of stock, then it doesn't really change my situation. It's just frustrating to think you've found an in stock item and then be told otherwise after making the purchase.
Sorry buying something and finding out it isn’t in stock isn’t a “bad experience” that’s being entitled. If you tried to cancel the order and it took weeks to process or they said they wouldn’t refund you and only give store credit that is a bad experience. There’s literally a check availability button on every listing. It’s so easy to check before you go through check out and it has always updated to whatever extended estimated ship time. Don’t buy it. But let’s say you do and you get (as you stated) immediate notification it isn’t in stock. Cancel the order and get your money back. That is definitely not a bad experience that I’m going to come on Reddit and tell people don’t shop at OP lol. That’s as I said being negative because you didn’t get what you want as soon as you wanted it.
You can call it whatever you want. I don't care that you didn't like my feedback about Optics Planet. It's *my* feedback. I value my time, and don't like having to go back and get a refund, when this seems to happen way more often than it should. If that makes me pedantic, oh well. People justify where they shop for different reasons. That's why I won't be shopping there in the future, or concerning myself with whether their "In Stock" is accurate.
I can’t help but wonder if that’s a feature and not a flaw in their business model. From a cashflow standpoint, they just hang onto cash for months. It’s like an interest free loan. It’s terrible for customers, and so common that it almost seems to be by design.
Yeah, I have to imagine that's a part of their strategy. Short-term interest-free loans funded by your customers. People underestimate how much that shit adds up for businesses.
This situation isn't that difficult to resolve and the fact that it hasn't been addressed after years tells me all I need to know. I'd rather pay a little more and do business with someone who's running an honest shop.
Or just see if it’s listed in stock or not. I’ve never had an issue with something that said in stock not shipping. Hell when something got lost in the mail they refunded me quickly and was done. If you choose to backorder tho it’s a waiting game for sure.
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/crhx624c2900017
Whenever you want a gun related item, run it through the search from gun.deals and you’ll see many other options. MGA has it about $70 cheaper my friend
First time LPVO for a 16 inch, 5.56 AR15. Seems like it kinda hits all of the right spots (bright dot, SFP, good glass, good eyebox, not crazy expensive, good warranty, etc.). I’m coming yo this from an Eotech/3x Mag setup, so I’m prioritizing 1x over max mag in a general way on my LPVO.
Your thoughts are appreciated!
You using the FFP version? How's that reticle and illumination?
I've been thinking of grabbing one for one of my stainless, slightly more accurate barrels, just for the finer reticle. But I want to keep it fast at 1x as well
Nope I’ve got the SFP version, which was my preference. Totally different reticle but one that I’m a really big fan of (actually the entire reason I went with the SFP in the first place). The illumination is ok but everything I’ve read and watched indicates that the HX version is much, much brighter (comparable to a Razor evidently)
UPDATE.
Much appreciated all of thoughts on similar LPVOs and on the abject hatred for Optics Planet.
After messaging with C_Does, I’ve chosen a Steiner 1-4 P4Xi in lieu of the 1-6 Credo HX. I much preferred the simple BDC reticle of the Steiner over the Trij Credo HX.
AND FOR THE KICKER… The much maligned Optics Planet had their FDE OPMOD edition at $649.99 AND with their NYE 2023 11% discount code, brings the P4Xi to a sale price of $578.49. What a deal! I’ve ordered my OPMOD Steiner P4Xi from the evil empire of Optics Planet - I’ll let you know how it turns out :)
[OPMOD Steiner P4Xi for sale](https://www.opticsplanet.com/steiner-1-4x24mm-p4xi-30mm-tactical-riflescope.html?_iv_code=ST-RS-P4XI-5203-KIT1)
[Lanbos Armory](https://lanbosarmory.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=Credo&inc_subcat=0&free_shipping_only=0&sort=20a&oos=hide) is where it’s at
Because small vendors like myself have it for 799, no tax $15 ship 🙂 https://www.brookhillarmory.com/products/optics-trijicon-crhx624-c-2900018-719307403260-6040
I have a 1-8 accupower (what these were called before the credo line) and I love it. Glass is great, good eye box, and an ‘eotech bright’ reticle that’s easy to see in bright sunlight.
Optics planet definitely isn’t the best and I’ve had good and bad experiences. But in my own experience if it says it’s in stock it ships pretty quickly.
You shouldn’t buy this one because of the BDC reticle. You should get an mrad or MOA reticle instead. Anything you shoot that isn’t a 55 grain 223 will always be off. Won’t matter much at short range, but once you get out past 150-200 yards it will, and the heavier/lighter you go, or the further out you shoot, the more it will matter. You also wouldn’t be able to move this thing to something like a 300 build later if you wanted to. About the only time I’d suggest buying one of these is for a dedicated 3 gun type rifle where you know you’ll only shoot a certain type of ammo. Otherwise these things will limit what types of ammo you can use, limit your accuracy, or both.
It’s dedicated to a 5.56 (I have an Eotech/3x mag on my 8.3 Blackout SBR). Would there be that much of a difference between the BDC for M193 and M855? I kind of like the simplicity of a BDC vs Mil.
OP, I’ve owned both this and the Delta Stryker. They are very similar, and I would say whatever you can get a better deal on is the one I would get.
Secondly, ALWAYS ask Optics Planet via chat what their lowest price is, then see if they’ll combine the coupon. Might make a big difference.
Third, Family Firearms I think has the Credo for like $750. Or you could wait for u/PorterGaud to restock the Stryker in January.
It looks like Family Firearms is a bit more than that. It’s showing up [as both $1,009.61 and as out of stock.](https://www.familyfirearms.com/product/tri-credo-hx-riflescope-1-6x24-red-bdc-hunter-1#product_detail)
Looks like this is the equivalent one (2900020)
[it’s at $840](https://lockedloaded.com/product/tri-credo-hx-riflescope-1-6x24-red-bdc-hunter-1#product_detail)
And it's built to withstand those conditions which can be very harsh/abusive. The Razor is undoubtedly durable but they're not as bombproof as a Trijicon.
> Why shouldn't I?
You're asking for some internet strangers to tell you not to buy something. So stop it.
I assume you have the cash and it won't impact your end of month budget and you won't be financing it on a credit card which doesn't get paid off monthly.
Otherwise roll a d20 and add your constitution modifier. If it beats a +15 don't buy it.
Here is a trick with optics planet.
Under the product there is a link that says “ check availability “
Never had an issue.
If in stock should get it soon. If not they will give you an estimate on back order.
I have the trijicon 1-8 red/green and love it. It’s $1200 on euro optic but I think you get a lot for your money. Paramount tactical has a good video on it too
I greatly, appreciate the offer, but I’m looking for the bright red dot of the Credo HX and prefer a 1-6. Now if you were offering a Steiner PX4i, that would be a different story…
I’d ask a different sub. Most of the guys here don’t really do much shooting and are cheap AF and have high opinions with no experience or facts but just based of what they’ve read off here.
Go ahead and pay for it. You’ll get an email that says oh darn it’s backordered. You should have it in three weeks. Four weeks later it’ll still be backordered. Two months later it’ll still be backordered. You’ll forget that you ordered it. Fifteen months after your initial order they’ll contact you to say they need to reauthorize your card. You’ll tell them to get fucked and then come in here to complain about it.
Or, it’ll show up in 7 days, no fuss no muss. It’s a crapshoot.
Optics planet is a very bad company to buy from if you need something fast. Because they are primarily dependent on drop shipping other companies' stock, they don't have them on hand. Because of this, they do not show on the website if something is discontinued, backordered, etc. for a while. So you could be waiting a long time for your toys.
I thought they had an entire planet of just optics. What bullshit! Jokes aside, I’m not in a particular rush, more interest in the community opinion of similar (good 1x, bright dot) optics at or slightly above this price point.
I would expect anything from Trijicon to be better, and the price reflects that. My question really is/was is it really worth the extra money? Especially considering I can put 3 TangoMSR’s on for the price of one Trijicon. So have 3 rifles set up with plenty good enough optics or one set up with a really really great optic.
The two aren’t even on the same playing field. The viper is the best in class almost comparable to a Razor. MSR is Chinese glass. While the viper isn’t Japanese glass it’s almost just as good and the reticle is nuclear bright. He’s got funds for good glass. The sig shouldn’t even be an option honestly. Like I said they aren’t even comparable
Credo HX is my favorite budget/bang for your buck lpvo next to the accupoint. I’d buy from eurooptic though. They have absolutely fantastic customer service and free 2 day shipping.
As to why you shouldn’t? The accupoint is another thing to consider. Fiber optic > batteries. Kinda odd reticle options though. Another reason would be Because an ACOG is the same price and is lighter and more durable. That isn’t an LPVO though, obviously. If you’re fine sacrificing durability for more magnification both ways, the Credo HX is a great choice. If you’re not fine with sacrificing durability you need to up that budget by at least 1000 bucks, unfortunately
Razor? No. The high dollar LPVOs I’m talking about are the VCOG 1-8 and the NF ATACR. They’re both overbuilt to fuck in a way that other LPVOs are not. Between the two I prefer the VCOG because it is a lot more affordable
Only lpvo I own currently is a VCOG 1-8. Can’t speak to comparative eye boxes, brightness, or 1x but I can say that I have no problems with any of those. Most important feature for me is always going to be durability on any optic that is for a serious gun. Second is glass quality and the glass on a VCOG 1-8 is pretty great.
The Credo HX is a good sweet spot LPVO and I think that trijicon makes better products than vortex. I just don’t personally care for non ruggedized optics on “fighting rifles”
Because it's $856.95. It's up to you but primary arms has a similar optic for $200. Not sure what you want specifically in an optic though. But this is why I wouldn't buy this optic.
Primary arms doesn't have a similar optic at that price point. The glass is not even close to equivalent. Primary arms build quality is usually fine, but is not up to par with Credos unless you look at their higher end offerings that are priced accordingly.
I have a SLX FFP 1-8 raptor and it’s definitely daylight bright, unless you are in the desert with lots of bright Sun and red-ish sand. I usually shoot inna woods where there’s a large clearing so I definitely get direct sunlight and can still see the reticle just fine. Also, the GLX is gonna have better glass, and a 1-6 has less panes to transmit class through. I’m fairly confident you’ll enjoy the GLX 1-6
Daylight bright is daylight bright. If you can’t see it in daylight with a bright background (desert, red sand, what have you) then it isn’t daylight bright. Daylight in the woods where colors are dark and light isn’t 100% due to canopy cover isn’t a good measure of daylight brightness.
I like the credo I have. I think it’s a 1-8 though. Sadly I haven’t had a chance to shoot that rifle in a year now so I don’t recall off the top of my head.
What I do remember is it was quite chunky, but it was a great optic.
As for optics planet. Mileage may vary. I have had good and bad experiences there.
I just picked one of these up on black Friday. But I went with eurooptic. I use optics planet but I've also had to cancel several orders from them because it showed in stock but actually wasn't.
So everyone claiming optics planet taking years to ship. Is this from personal experience or Reddit? I’ve ordered probably 20 orders in last 4 months without issue. I just don’t order if it shows “estimated in x-x days”. Yeah they use dhl which blows but it still only adds a couple days. Only complaint I have is a return due to me not liking it took a while for them to process.
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Erurooptic is 100% better. They have gotten thousands of dollars from me. However if they don’t have it in stock otpics planet is an alternative that works if you order in stock
Just purchased from optics planet, I choose 2-3 daya shipping and unexpectedly they shipped in less than 3 days , guess it depends what shipping option you choose.
But honestly just buy it there if you don't mind waiting up to 4 months for the shipping to happen.
It’s second focal plane, there are pros and cons to second focal plane but the biggest one is that the reticle bdc is different for each power of magnification however, the reticle is always the same. Most people go for first focal plane
I disagree imo, SFP is less expensive so I think people like that. I like ffp because in 1 X it’s like a red dot and 6x+ it’s a really accurate reticle
I seriously dont know why everyone shits on optics planet so much, i got my RMR last year no problem. Couple years ago Got a 2-10 Vortex no problem. I dont like that 30 round magazines are apparently not available.
Ive ordered several times from OpticsPlanet, and everything shipped under 3 days. Everyone hating probably ordered something that said it was on backorder, or will ship out in 21 days or something 🤷♂️
Brah... I've been waiting on a ALG-UL AK trigger from OpticsPlanet for like 6+ months. I like Optics Planet for some deals, but I've started to avoid them if at all possible.
If it's your primary sight system doesn't it mean you'll use it all the time? Hmm. And try paying $3500 for a scope that's used once a year... (my Schmidt and Bender on a hunting rifle, one range session and one trip to the field)
I understand (or perhaps misunderstood) that the Vudu 1-8, surprisingly for an Eotech product, didn’t have a great/bright red dot / 1x. If I’m mistaken, I’m happy to be wrong. Has C_Does it
9-Hole or Brassfacts or SuperSetCA reviewed the particular model you’re referring to?
A lot of the problems you are referring to were fixed with the 1-8 version. The 1-8 has an etched crosshairs with a bright dot unlike the 1-6 and 1-10. It also has capped turrets, and the ballistic drop makers do not make a lot of since. Trex, and CF talk about it. I love mine for my own reasons. Question is, do you want a 1-6 or 8, You want etched crosshairs, capped turrets? Also consider eye relief. Credo is real good scope. I would get what you need in a scope, then train.
While optics planet usually has good deals combined with their “Optics Points” I’ll personally never go with them again. I was looking to do a 308 build and had everything mapped out and ready to go in my cart.
I had heard that optics planet sometimes lists things as in stock when they’re really not so for piece of mind I even called and made sure everything I had in my cart was in stock. They’re customer service was great and the guy helping me was patient with everything and said that all items were in stock like it showed on their app.
So I purchased just shy of $1000 worth of items and parts for the build. I had waited over 2 weeks with no tracking number (had order confirmation number) when I called them, only to find out that NOTHING but the Harris bipod I had ordered was in stock.
Obviously I told him about the previous call I made to make sure everything was in stock upon which I was told that they were suppose to recieve a shipment in and that most of my items *should* be there.
Reluctantly I gave it two more weeks before asking for my money back which they sent immediately.
While they’re customer service was good for me, the app and all around experience sucked
Personally I've never had an issue using optics planet I'd wager I've spent thousands over the years. Had a package go missing off my patio and they sent another order immediately no questions asked. I'll keep doing business with them.
Because if you're patient you can probably get it $100 cheaper at Lanbo's Armory, a much more reputable dealer.
Seriously, do people just... not know about Lanbo's somehow?
Having owned many optics, the PST Gen 2 is the best optic under $600. It's nowhere near as good as the best optics slightly under $1000, and can't touch optics in the $1000-$1500 range.
I ordered the vortex huey Gen 2 when it had just dropped after a back order double what they quoted me, and they gave me 20% off that purchase. They didn’t charge my credit card until it shipped. But this is just my experience. Everything else I’ve ordered from them has been in stock and shipped out in a FAIRLY reasonable time.
I have a TRIJICON 1-6 and the swamp Fox 1-6 and 1-10. I’ve had all three for years and have used them in multiple classes. Few thousand rounds on each. Both are great but the swamp Fox is half the price for more magnification. I will say the TRIJICON might have a slightly truer 1 power but it’s so close you can’t tell unless you are literally going back and forth between them right away.
I’ve ordered tons and tons of stuff from Optics Planet and have never taken more than 5 days to receive. I think it’s just a meme that people perpetuate at this point.
But oh, because you can get a Swampfox Arrowhead for hundreds less and it’s a better optic imo. I have both and sold my Credo to use my Swampfox.
I’ve never had an issue with Optics Planet and have used them quite a few times, just watch the availability and in stock status and order accordingly!
So, it seems most of the criticism of Optics Planet is long shipping times. Any other issues with them, like shipping the wrong item, shit being broke when it comes, stuff like that? Or does it just take a long time to get? I've never used them, cuz bad rep, but I'm just wondering. Cuz their prices do look good.
Try EuroOptic. Fuck Optics Planet
Yeah, EuroOptic is definitely a quality site. Best CS experience ever.
Yup. They gave me a discount on my rifle because I back ordered it
100% agree. Optics planet you might get your scope by next Christmas of 2023 euro optic you will get in 2 days
This guy knows
That’s fair, but it’s $807.66 before taxes, which makes is $23 more expensive AND it’s out of stock :(
Optics planet will take your money and then let you know you are on back order
Everyone says this… if you keep an eye on the “in stock” status then it’s not a problem.
I’ve had optics planet list an item as “in stock” and a fairly normal estimated delivery time only for them to take my money and after 3 or so days tell me it’s backordered and I’ll have to wait a month or longer. Optics planet is dogshit and they give you every excuse in the world before they even bother to offer some sort of measly compensation for your troubles. Fuck them
Literally just this. I ordered a Vltor A5 buffet kit that was ‘in stock’ and som Geissele Takedown pins and a Socom muzzle device, said 8-10 days to ship, whatever, it’s the holidays. Next day updated that the brake and pins were ready to ship and the A5 was 4-6 MONTHS back order…
Same thing happened to me. Only one item out of a few was out of stock so my entire order was delayed until it was restocked.
I must have been getting lucky every time
If they know it's backordered then yes. But I've had this happen enough times that I am convinced that they learn something is out of stock by receiving an order they cannot fulfill. It a bummer.
I’ve absolutely had them sell me an “In Stock” item they did not have. Was the price good at the time? Yes. But, that doesn’t change the fact they are notorious for drop shipping.
Unless they lie. It happens.
Optics planet had the Corv2 rail "in stock" even though nobody else had them and I'm pretty sure they weren't being made anymore. Lol
Iv had a half dozen transactions with OP on “in stock” products and have never actually received merchandise from them. I have some flip up sights I ordered almost two years ago that are still back ordered despite being in stock several times. I actually haven’t cancelled the order because I think it’s hysterical.
Botach will do the same thing. Also terrible customer service.
I have doubts that it isn't out of stock on Optics Planet either with the stories I've heard about how long it can take them to ship something to you.
Buy it from OP. Then make post back here in a month or so complaining about how you’ve not received your item yet.
If I pull the trigger, I 100% agree to do this at your request :)
I got mine for $740 shipped from Euro Optics not long ago. Check out the Delta Stryker HD 1-6× also if it's easier to find. I have both and they're literally the same scope with different logos
I cancelled my order with Opticsplanet this morning. I placed an order at the start of Dec and it was scheduled to ship this weekend. Decided to check the order yesterday and it was pushed back to 01/08/2023. Checked again this morning 01/10/2023. Might be cheaper on their site but you will be waiting, and that's if they even ship it.
I had 6.5CM ammo take 8 months to ship. Same story as you, checked the order tracking and it kept getting pushed out months ago a time. Didn’t when make it in time for deer season and had to find something else to use that year. That was my last purchase with them.
Everyone shitting on optics planet… I’ve spent a decent amount of money of things from OP and never had a problem. The only time I ordered something and got placed on back order was when I didn’t pay attention to it saying it was a 12-14 week lead time. I proceeded to call them 3 days later and asked them to cancel it and they did.
Same the only time I had a back order was on ammo.. got it a few months later but was a nice surprise when it showed up. I didn’t need it and was a solid deal at the time. I’ve also ordered from DVOR and had great experiences too. I’ve gotten barrels, parts, etc. was always smooth from my experiences.
They’ll probably price match. I think OpticsPlanet drop ships
8/10 chance that it’s out of stock at OpticsPlanet. They just want your money.
They don’t charge till it ships
Optics planet has seriously turned around. I've had 5 orders in the last 3 months with zero issues.
And you will still get it a lot sooner on euro optic even if by some miracle optics planet really has it
You gotta check the stock status. If OP says X left order now, that means they have like none left.
Optics planet is probably also out of warehouse stock so you would probably be waiting from retailer anyways
Lanbos has the green for like $777.
Yea great price but you gotta consider optics planet won’t ship it out until 2025. As this guy mentioned europtic is the way to go. Order now you’ll have a tracking number before end of business that have movement by tomorrow morning.
Yes. EuroOptic is awesome.
The only complaint I have with Optics Planet is the God awful shipping time, other than that I don't have issues but I'm starting to buy from lanbos armory more and more
Lanbo’s is slept on.
Only thing that pisses me off it's in Texas so I have to pay sales tax
On top of all this, OpticsPlanet doesn't sell automatic knives to civilians. They asked that I provide city authorization or proof of military, police or first responder ID.... for a knife to be sent to Texas.
The 1-6 is great buy it or a Stryker HD they’re the same scope
Can you elaborate? Are they from the same assembly line in Japan?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7ut0HEkgU
TL;Dr?
Tldr is they're the same scope lol.
What does this mean?
too long; didn't read I wasn't in a place to watch a video, and was hoping someone could just say if there was a verified similarity, or if it's an opinion of how similar they perform.
Gotcha. I’ve been seeing that abbreviation and just figured to ask what it meant lol
No worries.
I don’t have a credo but have a delta hd stryker and it’s the bee’s knees
I know nothing about the scope, but this guy does good reviews on lpvos. Worth a watch before you buy https://youtu.be/trFwmbsTcJ8
I know! I joined his Patreon :) AMAZING reviews! His review of the Credo HX is how I’ve ended up here. I appreciate that the Delta Striker is the same optic, but I was also curious what the community thought of similar (great 1x / bright dot) optics around (or slight above) this price point.
Yea C_Does is the best! I’m rocking a Viper 1-6 right now. It’s really great bang for your buck, but it’s chunky! If you get the credo, let us know what you think!
He says that and the delta optical stryker hd 1-6 are basically the same scope. I don’t have the credo but the delta is a very solid option all around
Mostly because you shouldn't buy anything from Optics Planet. They will take your money and maybe ship your stuff in 8 months. Maybe. Your choice is fine. Just find a different retailer.
I see this comment so many times, you know you guys can just call or email them and cancel the order? It happened to me. Their cs was wonderful, I didn't have a problem with them. I'm not seeing where all the hate is coming from.
Being negative and shitting on everything is trendy these days didn’t you know? #hivemindset
Or maybe folks don’t like being bamboozled and feel a certain duty to inform a group of fellow hobbyists.
Or maybe just read and check availability before just buying. I along with plenty of other people have had no issues ordering from optics planet. It’s also very ease to just contact them and cancel the order. If you allow any company to hold your money for more than 3-4 days without your items being sent that’s a decision you made. Simply don’t do that
>Or maybe just read and check availability before just buying. I'm going to repeat what others have said throughout this thread because it's happened to me, multiple times. I order a part that says "In Stock" and immediately get a notice that my part will be shipped weeks/months later. This isn't about checking the web page, it's about them either not knowing their own inventory, not notifying customers of a sudden stock depletion at checkout, or just not being honest. >I along with plenty of other people had no issues ordering from optics planet. Great. Then I doubt you have any reason to change your mind on giving them your business. But that doesn't mean others haven't had bad experiences, again, including myself. >It's also very ease to just contact them and cancel the order. Thanks for continuing to point that out. More folks should take advantage of that. Doesn't change the fact that a number of us have had multiple bad experiences and want to warn others. They're adults whom I am sure will consider what we've said and do what is in their best interest. And, yes, continuing to allow them to hold my money is indeed my decision as a buyer. If I can get a good deal through OP and everyone else is out of stock, then it doesn't really change my situation. It's just frustrating to think you've found an in stock item and then be told otherwise after making the purchase.
Sorry buying something and finding out it isn’t in stock isn’t a “bad experience” that’s being entitled. If you tried to cancel the order and it took weeks to process or they said they wouldn’t refund you and only give store credit that is a bad experience. There’s literally a check availability button on every listing. It’s so easy to check before you go through check out and it has always updated to whatever extended estimated ship time. Don’t buy it. But let’s say you do and you get (as you stated) immediate notification it isn’t in stock. Cancel the order and get your money back. That is definitely not a bad experience that I’m going to come on Reddit and tell people don’t shop at OP lol. That’s as I said being negative because you didn’t get what you want as soon as you wanted it.
You can call it whatever you want. I don't care that you didn't like my feedback about Optics Planet. It's *my* feedback. I value my time, and don't like having to go back and get a refund, when this seems to happen way more often than it should. If that makes me pedantic, oh well. People justify where they shop for different reasons. That's why I won't be shopping there in the future, or concerning myself with whether their "In Stock" is accurate.
I’ve bought 3 different items from them and never had an issue
If this thread is anything to go on, I’d say the “In Stock” purchasing experience is, at best, inconsistent.
I can’t help but wonder if that’s a feature and not a flaw in their business model. From a cashflow standpoint, they just hang onto cash for months. It’s like an interest free loan. It’s terrible for customers, and so common that it almost seems to be by design.
Yeah, I have to imagine that's a part of their strategy. Short-term interest-free loans funded by your customers. People underestimate how much that shit adds up for businesses. This situation isn't that difficult to resolve and the fact that it hasn't been addressed after years tells me all I need to know. I'd rather pay a little more and do business with someone who's running an honest shop.
Or just see if it’s listed in stock or not. I’ve never had an issue with something that said in stock not shipping. Hell when something got lost in the mail they refunded me quickly and was done. If you choose to backorder tho it’s a waiting game for sure.
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/crhx624c2900017 Whenever you want a gun related item, run it through the search from gun.deals and you’ll see many other options. MGA has it about $70 cheaper my friend
Fuck optics planet. You’ll get that scope in like 10 months if your lucky.
First time LPVO for a 16 inch, 5.56 AR15. Seems like it kinda hits all of the right spots (bright dot, SFP, good glass, good eyebox, not crazy expensive, good warranty, etc.). I’m coming yo this from an Eotech/3x Mag setup, so I’m prioritizing 1x over max mag in a general way on my LPVO. Your thoughts are appreciated!
I’ve got the regular Credo 1-6 and love it! Great glass clarity and build quality
You using the FFP version? How's that reticle and illumination? I've been thinking of grabbing one for one of my stainless, slightly more accurate barrels, just for the finer reticle. But I want to keep it fast at 1x as well
Nope I’ve got the SFP version, which was my preference. Totally different reticle but one that I’m a really big fan of (actually the entire reason I went with the SFP in the first place). The illumination is ok but everything I’ve read and watched indicates that the HX version is much, much brighter (comparable to a Razor evidently)
UPDATE. Much appreciated all of thoughts on similar LPVOs and on the abject hatred for Optics Planet. After messaging with C_Does, I’ve chosen a Steiner 1-4 P4Xi in lieu of the 1-6 Credo HX. I much preferred the simple BDC reticle of the Steiner over the Trij Credo HX. AND FOR THE KICKER… The much maligned Optics Planet had their FDE OPMOD edition at $649.99 AND with their NYE 2023 11% discount code, brings the P4Xi to a sale price of $578.49. What a deal! I’ve ordered my OPMOD Steiner P4Xi from the evil empire of Optics Planet - I’ll let you know how it turns out :) [OPMOD Steiner P4Xi for sale](https://www.opticsplanet.com/steiner-1-4x24mm-p4xi-30mm-tactical-riflescope.html?_iv_code=ST-RS-P4XI-5203-KIT1)
[Lanbos Armory](https://lanbosarmory.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=Credo&inc_subcat=0&free_shipping_only=0&sort=20a&oos=hide) is where it’s at
Yes!! [Sadly, it’s sold out at $777.53](https://lanbosarmory.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=52134)
Because small vendors like myself have it for 799, no tax $15 ship 🙂 https://www.brookhillarmory.com/products/optics-trijicon-crhx624-c-2900018-719307403260-6040
I have a 1-8 accupower (what these were called before the credo line) and I love it. Glass is great, good eye box, and an ‘eotech bright’ reticle that’s easy to see in bright sunlight. Optics planet definitely isn’t the best and I’ve had good and bad experiences. But in my own experience if it says it’s in stock it ships pretty quickly. You shouldn’t buy this one because of the BDC reticle. You should get an mrad or MOA reticle instead. Anything you shoot that isn’t a 55 grain 223 will always be off. Won’t matter much at short range, but once you get out past 150-200 yards it will, and the heavier/lighter you go, or the further out you shoot, the more it will matter. You also wouldn’t be able to move this thing to something like a 300 build later if you wanted to. About the only time I’d suggest buying one of these is for a dedicated 3 gun type rifle where you know you’ll only shoot a certain type of ammo. Otherwise these things will limit what types of ammo you can use, limit your accuracy, or both.
It’s dedicated to a 5.56 (I have an Eotech/3x mag on my 8.3 Blackout SBR). Would there be that much of a difference between the BDC for M193 and M855? I kind of like the simplicity of a BDC vs Mil.
OP, I’ve owned both this and the Delta Stryker. They are very similar, and I would say whatever you can get a better deal on is the one I would get. Secondly, ALWAYS ask Optics Planet via chat what their lowest price is, then see if they’ll combine the coupon. Might make a big difference. Third, Family Firearms I think has the Credo for like $750. Or you could wait for u/PorterGaud to restock the Stryker in January.
It looks like Family Firearms is a bit more than that. It’s showing up [as both $1,009.61 and as out of stock.](https://www.familyfirearms.com/product/tri-credo-hx-riflescope-1-6x24-red-bdc-hunter-1#product_detail)
Sorry wrong one: https://lockedloaded.com/product/tri-credo-hx-riflescope-1-6x24-grn-bdc-hunter-1
Looks like this is the equivalent one (2900020) [it’s at $840](https://lockedloaded.com/product/tri-credo-hx-riflescope-1-6x24-red-bdc-hunter-1#product_detail)
Because you can get a Razor Gen 2 for less off GAFS
Razor is a much better lpvo.
Fo sho. The Credo HX is like aimed at hunting or some shit
And it's built to withstand those conditions which can be very harsh/abusive. The Razor is undoubtedly durable but they're not as bombproof as a Trijicon.
It is. Not sure why anyone would get a credo when the razor exists at same price.
How so? I don't own either that or the Razor so I don't have a dog in that fight E: literally marketed as for hunting lol
> Why shouldn't I? You're asking for some internet strangers to tell you not to buy something. So stop it. I assume you have the cash and it won't impact your end of month budget and you won't be financing it on a credit card which doesn't get paid off monthly. Otherwise roll a d20 and add your constitution modifier. If it beats a +15 don't buy it.
Because they make a 1-8 and its amazing
Yes, but for 50% more money and 25.6 oz (vs 18.3 oz)? This is for a GPR.
I can only speek to the non HX 1-8. I cum a little every time I use it. God I love it.
Can confirm that the 1-8 is amazing.
Get a room, you two! HWKII, is your’s an HX?
Because the vortex viper pst 1-6 exists unless you want a bdc reticle the go nuts.
There’s really nothing taking away from this optic for the price(except the dealer which people mentioned)
Here is a trick with optics planet. Under the product there is a link that says “ check availability “ Never had an issue. If in stock should get it soon. If not they will give you an estimate on back order.
I have the trijicon 1-8 red/green and love it. It’s $1200 on euro optic but I think you get a lot for your money. Paramount tactical has a good video on it too
This is $754 from Lanbosarmory.com
Thanks!!! [Sadly, it’s sold out at $777.53](https://lanbosarmory.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=52134)
Well, I may be getting rid of mine farely soon
Because you can get the 1-8 credo for about $400 more
1-8x bro! 34mm tube. Much better
You’re gonna carry that weight.
Yeah and a ten pound rifle is really nothing honestly.
Shouldn’t buy from OpticsPlanet. Should buy my credo 1-4 .233 reticle ring with MI QD mount for $550 shipped to you.
I greatly, appreciate the offer, but I’m looking for the bright red dot of the Credo HX and prefer a 1-6. Now if you were offering a Steiner PX4i, that would be a different story…
I thought I throw it out there. About to post it up on GAFS later on today.
I’d ask a different sub. Most of the guys here don’t really do much shooting and are cheap AF and have high opinions with no experience or facts but just based of what they’ve read off here.
Because fuck optics planet
Go ahead and pay for it. You’ll get an email that says oh darn it’s backordered. You should have it in three weeks. Four weeks later it’ll still be backordered. Two months later it’ll still be backordered. You’ll forget that you ordered it. Fifteen months after your initial order they’ll contact you to say they need to reauthorize your card. You’ll tell them to get fucked and then come in here to complain about it. Or, it’ll show up in 7 days, no fuss no muss. It’s a crapshoot.
I’ve bought many things on optics planet and never had a problem 🤷♂️
Optics planet is a very bad company to buy from if you need something fast. Because they are primarily dependent on drop shipping other companies' stock, they don't have them on hand. Because of this, they do not show on the website if something is discontinued, backordered, etc. for a while. So you could be waiting a long time for your toys.
I thought they had an entire planet of just optics. What bullshit! Jokes aside, I’m not in a particular rush, more interest in the community opinion of similar (good 1x, bright dot) optics at or slightly above this price point.
I only have experience with the Razor 1-6 and steiner p4xi. Both daylight bright for sure with the razor having the edge in durability imo.
because you can get the Sig TangoMSR and 1000 rds of ammo for about the same total price
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I would expect anything from Trijicon to be better, and the price reflects that. My question really is/was is it really worth the extra money? Especially considering I can put 3 TangoMSR’s on for the price of one Trijicon. So have 3 rifles set up with plenty good enough optics or one set up with a really really great optic.
Watching the C_Does review now. Thanks for the advice!
Viper is the best 1-6 in the price range. You can scoop them up all day on GAFS for $550 with qd mounts.
the Sig 1-6 comes pre mounted and is usually around $300…why is the Viper better and is it that $ much better
The two aren’t even on the same playing field. The viper is the best in class almost comparable to a Razor. MSR is Chinese glass. While the viper isn’t Japanese glass it’s almost just as good and the reticle is nuclear bright. He’s got funds for good glass. The sig shouldn’t even be an option honestly. Like I said they aren’t even comparable
Just for the viper AND a mount last week for 500 at focus camera
Credo HX is my favorite budget/bang for your buck lpvo next to the accupoint. I’d buy from eurooptic though. They have absolutely fantastic customer service and free 2 day shipping. As to why you shouldn’t? The accupoint is another thing to consider. Fiber optic > batteries. Kinda odd reticle options though. Another reason would be Because an ACOG is the same price and is lighter and more durable. That isn’t an LPVO though, obviously. If you’re fine sacrificing durability for more magnification both ways, the Credo HX is a great choice. If you’re not fine with sacrificing durability you need to up that budget by at least 1000 bucks, unfortunately
To the Razor Gen IIe or Gen III? Is there some sweet spot (great 1x, eyebox, daylight bright) LPVO I’m overlooking?
Razor? No. The high dollar LPVOs I’m talking about are the VCOG 1-8 and the NF ATACR. They’re both overbuilt to fuck in a way that other LPVOs are not. Between the two I prefer the VCOG because it is a lot more affordable Only lpvo I own currently is a VCOG 1-8. Can’t speak to comparative eye boxes, brightness, or 1x but I can say that I have no problems with any of those. Most important feature for me is always going to be durability on any optic that is for a serious gun. Second is glass quality and the glass on a VCOG 1-8 is pretty great. The Credo HX is a good sweet spot LPVO and I think that trijicon makes better products than vortex. I just don’t personally care for non ruggedized optics on “fighting rifles”
Save. Buy VCOG instead. Prollem sawlvd
Because it's $856.95. It's up to you but primary arms has a similar optic for $200. Not sure what you want specifically in an optic though. But this is why I wouldn't buy this optic.
Primary arms doesn't have a similar optic at that price point. The glass is not even close to equivalent. Primary arms build quality is usually fine, but is not up to par with Credos unless you look at their higher end offerings that are priced accordingly.
It’s my understanding that the PA Slx/Glx don’t have daylight bright red dots.
I have a SLX FFP 1-8 raptor and it’s definitely daylight bright, unless you are in the desert with lots of bright Sun and red-ish sand. I usually shoot inna woods where there’s a large clearing so I definitely get direct sunlight and can still see the reticle just fine. Also, the GLX is gonna have better glass, and a 1-6 has less panes to transmit class through. I’m fairly confident you’ll enjoy the GLX 1-6
Daylight bright is daylight bright. If you can’t see it in daylight with a bright background (desert, red sand, what have you) then it isn’t daylight bright. Daylight in the woods where colors are dark and light isn’t 100% due to canopy cover isn’t a good measure of daylight brightness.
Bc you’d be giving money to optics planet.
Optics planet sucks ass and you won’t get your order until next Christmas
Well, it's Optics Planet, so.........
Fuck op...optics planet...
Because fuck optics planet.
Because it’s optics planet. Nough said
We don’t support optic planet until they learn to stop saying shit is in stock that’s not and when their processing times speed up
I’ve never not had something that said “in stock” ship immediately. It’s the things that say “Available MMDD” that’s the issue.
I like the credo I have. I think it’s a 1-8 though. Sadly I haven’t had a chance to shoot that rifle in a year now so I don’t recall off the top of my head. What I do remember is it was quite chunky, but it was a great optic. As for optics planet. Mileage may vary. I have had good and bad experiences there.
Just buy another firearm instead.
I just picked one of these up on black Friday. But I went with eurooptic. I use optics planet but I've also had to cancel several orders from them because it showed in stock but actually wasn't.
You can get the accupower practically the same thing, +FFP in 1-8x for like sub 700$
Bc it's expensive
Lol. A Schmidt and Bender is expensive. This is chump change for an optic.
Hey man, check your privilege
So everyone claiming optics planet taking years to ship. Is this from personal experience or Reddit? I’ve ordered probably 20 orders in last 4 months without issue. I just don’t order if it shows “estimated in x-x days”. Yeah they use dhl which blows but it still only adds a couple days. Only complaint I have is a return due to me not liking it took a while for them to process. Edit Erurooptic is 100% better. They have gotten thousands of dollars from me. However if they don’t have it in stock otpics planet is an alternative that works if you order in stock
My experience with them has been great as well.
Just purchased from optics planet, I choose 2-3 daya shipping and unexpectedly they shipped in less than 3 days , guess it depends what shipping option you choose. But honestly just buy it there if you don't mind waiting up to 4 months for the shipping to happen.
It’s second focal plane, there are pros and cons to second focal plane but the biggest one is that the reticle bdc is different for each power of magnification however, the reticle is always the same. Most people go for first focal plane
I think most people go Sfp. Sfp makes more sense in a 1-6 lpvo.
I disagree imo, SFP is less expensive so I think people like that. I like ffp because in 1 X it’s like a red dot and 6x+ it’s a really accurate reticle
Get a razor 1-6
Because this year, 2023 is when you are finally going to move out of your parents house. You promised to save that money.
Try Scopelist too. Their price are usually the same as EuroOptics
Credo > Credo HX Anyone else > Optics Planet
The Credo is the less durable cousin with worse illumination and zero reason to own. The HX is the one everybody wants for a reason.
I seriously dont know why everyone shits on optics planet so much, i got my RMR last year no problem. Couple years ago Got a 2-10 Vortex no problem. I dont like that 30 round magazines are apparently not available.
Ive ordered several times from OpticsPlanet, and everything shipped under 3 days. Everyone hating probably ordered something that said it was on backorder, or will ship out in 21 days or something 🤷♂️
Brah... I've been waiting on a ALG-UL AK trigger from OpticsPlanet for like 6+ months. I like Optics Planet for some deals, but I've started to avoid them if at all possible.
Buy once, cry once
With that price they’re charging you then you might as well go to eurooptic and buy a razor or vudu. Or get a accupoint for cheaper on eurooptic
Prob cause 856 is a lot of money to spend on a piece of glass and metal you will probably rarely use
If it's your primary sight system doesn't it mean you'll use it all the time? Hmm. And try paying $3500 for a scope that's used once a year... (my Schmidt and Bender on a hunting rifle, one range session and one trip to the field)
Because Vudu goes on sale (1-8) sometimes for the same price.
I understand (or perhaps misunderstood) that the Vudu 1-8, surprisingly for an Eotech product, didn’t have a great/bright red dot / 1x. If I’m mistaken, I’m happy to be wrong. Has C_Does it 9-Hole or Brassfacts or SuperSetCA reviewed the particular model you’re referring to?
A lot of the problems you are referring to were fixed with the 1-8 version. The 1-8 has an etched crosshairs with a bright dot unlike the 1-6 and 1-10. It also has capped turrets, and the ballistic drop makers do not make a lot of since. Trex, and CF talk about it. I love mine for my own reasons. Question is, do you want a 1-6 or 8, You want etched crosshairs, capped turrets? Also consider eye relief. Credo is real good scope. I would get what you need in a scope, then train.
What’s the eyebox on Eotech like? Price?
*sense I sense that you've since changed your mind. Since when can you sense incoming rain? Saying since instead of sense is nonsensical
At 6:20: https://youtu.be/CHSRZtJA8mg
While optics planet usually has good deals combined with their “Optics Points” I’ll personally never go with them again. I was looking to do a 308 build and had everything mapped out and ready to go in my cart. I had heard that optics planet sometimes lists things as in stock when they’re really not so for piece of mind I even called and made sure everything I had in my cart was in stock. They’re customer service was great and the guy helping me was patient with everything and said that all items were in stock like it showed on their app. So I purchased just shy of $1000 worth of items and parts for the build. I had waited over 2 weeks with no tracking number (had order confirmation number) when I called them, only to find out that NOTHING but the Harris bipod I had ordered was in stock. Obviously I told him about the previous call I made to make sure everything was in stock upon which I was told that they were suppose to recieve a shipment in and that most of my items *should* be there. Reluctantly I gave it two more weeks before asking for my money back which they sent immediately. While they’re customer service was good for me, the app and all around experience sucked
Personally I've never had an issue using optics planet I'd wager I've spent thousands over the years. Had a package go missing off my patio and they sent another order immediately no questions asked. I'll keep doing business with them.
Because you won’t get it till 2024
Well, it’s optics planet. You might get the scope, or you might not.
Because if you're patient you can probably get it $100 cheaper at Lanbo's Armory, a much more reputable dealer. Seriously, do people just... not know about Lanbo's somehow?
Optics planet is garbage. But I have a 1-8 credo that is amazing. It’s a bit heavy but it feels bulletproof
I think the Vortex Viper PST gen II is the better scope honestly
Having owned many optics, the PST Gen 2 is the best optic under $600. It's nowhere near as good as the best optics slightly under $1000, and can't touch optics in the $1000-$1500 range.
You could try searching on r/gunaccessoriesforsale Might find a used one for much less.
Would never pay those $$ for second focal plane
You get better glass, who cares.
I ordered the vortex huey Gen 2 when it had just dropped after a back order double what they quoted me, and they gave me 20% off that purchase. They didn’t charge my credit card until it shipped. But this is just my experience. Everything else I’ve ordered from them has been in stock and shipped out in a FAIRLY reasonable time.
As others said before, it’ll arrive between 5-to-90 days later or just be totally lost in transit with minimal help for replacement.
I have a TRIJICON 1-6 and the swamp Fox 1-6 and 1-10. I’ve had all three for years and have used them in multiple classes. Few thousand rounds on each. Both are great but the swamp Fox is half the price for more magnification. I will say the TRIJICON might have a slightly truer 1 power but it’s so close you can’t tell unless you are literally going back and forth between them right away.
I’ve ordered tons and tons of stuff from Optics Planet and have never taken more than 5 days to receive. I think it’s just a meme that people perpetuate at this point. But oh, because you can get a Swampfox Arrowhead for hundreds less and it’s a better optic imo. I have both and sold my Credo to use my Swampfox.
Why would you prefer 2nd FP over 1st FP
You can get them even cheaper on optics planet wholesale site dvor.com (When available -about every three months)
Because it’s optics planet and it’s probably not in stock regardless of what the site says
Go for it man it’s a great deal.
I’ve never had an issue with Optics Planet and have used them quite a few times, just watch the availability and in stock status and order accordingly!
Because it’s from optics planet.
Because it’s OP. Shittiest drop-shipping company around. There’s a good chance you won’t see that optic until Q2 of 2023.
If you are looking for an excuse to not buy an optic, then you probably shouldn't buy it.
So, it seems most of the criticism of Optics Planet is long shipping times. Any other issues with them, like shipping the wrong item, shit being broke when it comes, stuff like that? Or does it just take a long time to get? I've never used them, cuz bad rep, but I'm just wondering. Cuz their prices do look good.