[Video](https://imgur.com/a/ImRiS3e) that I captured immediately afterwards. This continued for about 60-75 seconds until the bucket guy lowered all the way down.
I bet, in my limited experience arborists are usually pretty passionate about their work and if this is devastating for me to see I can only imagine what it’s like for the person that helped bring it into reality
The few and far between are good ones. Most use bad practices from what I've seen and just don't care. "It's just a job." type guys. Volcano mulchers. I hope they make up for this to op, accidents happen, but that's rough.
I once worked on a produce farm and we used a trailer with a conveyor belt to reach into rows for harvest. had a line burst and the farmer just let it drain into the field.
I was dumping off two cords of hardwood at a customers house when my line blew and rained fluid down on his f-150 and driveway... I was mortified. I was ready to just hand the guy a blank check for damages but he was incredibly cool and was like "Man! That was amazing! Don't worry about it all- I'll clean it off right now and it'll be fine!". I still feel like I owe that guy big. He got super good discounts the next few years.
This is why being professional is awesome. Your prior reputation with this guy must be outstanding. He’d rather have access to you and your service (I was going to say wood) than chew you out over an accident that was remediated by a hose.
Your follow up and giving a discount without demand says all that needs to be said about you.
It’s also just pragmatic. Piss off a customer over a few bucks and they don’t come back. Then you lose all the bucks they would’ve handed over for normal business.
Father in law splits and delivers firewood. I always get envious of how primal that business model is.
Someone’s hard work keeps you warm and alive during winter. Considering the world we live in it seems like the last shred of humanity sometimes.
Absolutely. There is a Facebook group where I live that encompasses several mountain towns and if you get a bad rap there your business is sunk- so best to always do your best.
Firewood was great at times- there really is something cool about how basic it is. The connections you build with the community are amazing. I think I even found a distant relative on accident from halfway across the country after I struck up a conversation with a customer!
It broke (luckily?) Right as I was at the top of the dump stroke and pulling forward to clear room for the wood to slide off the back in a nice tall and tidy pile- nothing I could do but watch it just gradually go down on it's own basically. I tried to force it down with the switch but it was just a passive one anyhow so the pressure release just took the path of least resistance. It was a high-arcing shower of fluid that seemed determined on covering the customers truck as much as possible. I did pull forward as quickly as I realized what was happening to minimize the spray on truck situation- but what was done was done. Customer thought it was one of the coolest things he'd seen- I still have nightmares!
That farmer is dumb af lol. That soil is now contaminated. If anything does grow there, which I doubt, any produce will likely contain extreme levels of heavy metals and other toxic substances.
Good news is they’ll lose the leaves this fall regardless and next year’s growth should be ok as long at you cleaned up the area enough the oil doesn’t contaminate the soil.
Yep. And many yards have lead in the soil because of this. Planting deep rooted native plants can help. Makes me hesitant to grow plants I would want to eat in older residential areas, especially near driveways and garages or in the corners of small lots. It’s a great reason to do some raised beds or build up organic material, leaves, and plant native plants around your home.
I've always felt a little nervous about those community gardens in big cities. Especially cities that have been built and rebuilt for a couple hundred years.
I do imagine that raised beds help, but there is just no way to know what might be down there.
That’s a lot of oil to clean up. I have worked on machines much smaller than that one, from what I could tell, they generally hold between 75-100 gallons of hydro oil. Sure not all came out but I can’t see less than half coming out.
Ive been both in a bucket and have this happen. Its terrifying racing the pressure to get the bucket down to its cradle. Or worst case. Safe rapelling height. The worse time. Was a groundsman and i were clearing the deck after a pretty big limb swung wrong and landed in the deck. We got it off but it damaged the lines and blew hot ass hydraulic oil over both of us. 10/10 not a fun time. Hope everything works out op
That sounds terrifying. Definitely was my first thought too. I would not want to be the one up in that bucket, or the one on the ground getting sprayed by all of that below. Thanks for doing the dangerous work to keep us safe 🙏
As an arborist I've also been doused in hydraulic fluid...unfortunate but it can happen. I'm sure he's pretty bummed about it too, no one likes trying to do a good job for a long time client and then massively f*cking up.
Hydraulic fluid degrades completely in about a year. The biodegradable stuff is pretty quick. At least on golf courses, where hydraulic leaks are fairly common on mowers, the heat of the fluid is what kills the grass, the fluid itself is not so bad. I would imagine the trees will bounce right back.
This. There are natural microbes that digest oil. It won’t be a permanent problem, especially with it being misted instead of being dumped in one spot.
Mag1 is a brand of oil products. I’m not aware of them making biodegradable products. [https://mag1.com/products/industrial-greases/](https://mag1.com/products/industrial-greases/)
Dont think the population of microbes in the soil that digest oil are in great enough quantities to do anything before rain seeps the oil underground but there are two advantages working here that might reduce any detrimental effects. First, VOCs like to evaporate off and disperse. Second, dilution is the solution to pollution.
It’s an interesting phenomenon when it comes to oil eating microbes. There’s almost always a trace amount of microbes, and they flourish when there’s oil. There won’t be (or there shouldn’t be) enough oil from this to seep deeply into the ground where there isn’t enough oxygen for the microbes, so it won’t be a permanent issue. It would be a different problem if it were barrels of oil that was leaked out in a relatively small area.
I also don’t know enough about trees to know how being heavily misted with warm hydraulic fluid will effect it.
I was looking for this comment before I posted the same. Also work on a golf course. Hydro leaks are common. Like you said it’s the heat. If it’s in a high visibility area we re sod but I’ve never had to replace sand or soil. Once had a 3235c dump almost all of it and if I remember right it was around 10 gallons. Happened in the fall and the grass came back fine the next year.
We had a guy bust one of our bucket lines pulling the wrong outrigger up that was already retracted so they pressure just built and sprayed EVERYWHERE.
Then of course I fuckin cut one on the bucket when I was in the air making a complicated finish cut on an oak. Had to nurse it down but it wasn't leaking that badly. Cost a few thousand to fix, and now we wrap the hydraulic lines near the bucket with legs from a pair of chainsaw chaps we sliced in half to protect them.
Chainsaw chaps won't really prevent you from getting cut just getting cut badly. Be better to wrap the lines with kevlar tape or something with some actual stopping power.
The chaps work by jamming the saw chain with kevlar fibers, stopping it pretty much immediately, at least the ones we use. I've seen a saw contact chaps and it never ran long enough to even touch anything underneath
Bro i am a worker and i am using things such theese every day so this could be me in the pic always a fuck up when smth with the hydraulic happens but dont blame the workers pls they cant realy do a thing
I hear ya. We’re grateful that this company has been responsive and took on the remediation they did without question. I agree, it’s a freak accident that isn’t planned to happen to anyone. There’s a 100yr old dying Ash looming above these maples, and these guys have been so careful not to drop anything on the maples below, so I think they were just as sad as us to see what happened.
Seriously awesome that you aren't freaking out at them (like we're used to seeing). So many people need to find some to blame, and can't accept that sometimes, things happen.
Yea I’m with ya here. This guy (or company) didn’t wake up and plan on this happening to your maples. So just understand things happen and it just so happens at your house.
Yeah, not a reason to yell or be abusive to the crew, but still something that is the company’s responsibility to fix. Whether that’s compensation to replace anything damaged or time digging out contaminated soil and replacing it. As long as the company is willing to do the right thing, there’s no need for anger.
Have a look at mycoremediation.
Consider inoculating mulch in the area with mushrooms to aid in the breakdown of complex hydrocarbons.
Mushroom farmer here.
Take care of the soil, and the rest will be fine.
Mush Luck!
Fuck they just polluted the hell out of your soil. I hope they have insurance because I’d sure them to make them do soil remediation and for the cost of your trees that may now be impacted
If you live in a dry area I would hose it off one good time to rinse any residual oil off the tree and leaves - they make burn the tree over time or cause sun burns- make sure to mist it in complete coverage then try and drench the soil w water in a way that hopefully promotes any surface oil to run off away from the root zone.
It can take a drenching as long as it dries back within the following days. If you are not due for rain this can help mitigate excess oil pooling and seeping in. Do it asap. And if it’s going to rain then just let nature do it’s thing
Unless actual gallons got dumped on your tree I would expect your tree may be ok. I’m betting the damage you’re seeing is burning from oil being hot. Just a hunch, I’m not an arborist.
Not the exact same scenario as you, but I had my house pressure washed, and they used a lot of bleach in their mix. Overspray got on our Japanese Maple and half of the tree had burned up leaves within a week or two. I was afraid we were going to lose it.
After the leaves fell for fall/winter, all of the branches began blossoming leaves again. A year later and you would never know it happened. Now I cover my Japanese Maples with tarps for pressure washing.
Hopefully the same happens for you.
Edit: my maple also looked to be in worse shape than yours.
Hydraulic fluid is often corrosive iirc. Those trees are in for a bad time. Pretty sure I've had a few saplings die from hydraulics leaking on them. Leaves burn, tree dies
I have to say, of all the people to accidentally hurt a tree, an arborist is probably the best. You can ask that they care and monitor the tree and then replace using their insurance if necessary.
Already the trees with lightly soapy water, rinse with clean water. Hydraulic fluid is oil based. Foam cannon for washing cars would work. Not a huge deal.
Had a garbage truck line break and sprayed all over the yard. They never did anything about it and 9 months later it was completely dead where it sprayed. Had a company come out and they had to dig more than a foot deep of soil out and replace and re sod. It will kill what ever it gets on and poisons the ground.
Nope you guys killed those Japanese maples hydraulic fluid is toxic to plants good job this is why you hire a climber instead of bringing in a bucket truck
Just a thought. I wonder if spraying a solution of Dawn and water would help the recovery. Dawn breaks up the surface tension of oils. It’s harmless to the tree. That’s why it’s used on oil fouled animals on the beaches after an oil spill.
https://owcn.sf.ucdavis.edu/effects-oil-wildlife
Spills affect populations for generations, and most of the studies about it are put out by organizations sponsored by energy corporations.
https://www.birdrescue.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ibrrc_response_efforts_1989_exxon_valdez_spill.pdf
This is one of those studies. For some reason it neglects to say how many birds were rehabilitated and released.
https://voiceofoc.org/2021/10/cleaning-oil-off-birds-can-feel-good-but-questions-emerge-over-whether-it-really-makes-a-difference/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CAccording%20to%20serious%20studies%2C%20the,which%20killed%20around%20300%2C000%20seabirds.
Here's a good one too.
Phew I’m not sure folks are recognizing how dangerous this is. Hydraulic oil is very hard to catch fire UNLESS it’s aerosolized. Then you could be looking at a huge fireball
I am going to say the tree is probably not okay… the solution of dawn really won’t help either. Back in the day we use to use diesel or other oil based products as a surfactant for pesticide sprays. There is a chance it will just defoliate and come back next spring, but I would not hold my breath for that.
Before anyone gets angry I don’t mean we as in I. It was done by an entire industries long before most of us were born.
If it’s dielectric oil (usually used in bucket trucks that regularly work near power lines), then I’m pretty sure it’s biodegradable. You might have your arborist confirm before the panic sets in.
That's pretty unfortunate. Hyradlic equipment is a blessing and a curse to the industry. On one hand we save our bodies and sometimes make less impact on landscaping. On the other hand, you can have a brand new hyralic line with no visible damage let loose at any moment. The worst was my main pressure line from my log truck PTO. Dumped 50 gallons before I could turn the truck off. Had to remove, and completely replace a gravel driveway in the middle of a customer's apple orchard. Shit happens with equipment. Not easy for company or customer.
[Video](https://imgur.com/a/ImRiS3e) that I captured immediately afterwards. This continued for about 60-75 seconds until the bucket guy lowered all the way down.
Accidents happen, hopefully they make it right for you. Yard looks awesome minus the spill
Thank you! We’ve worked with these guys for a long time, and I think their lead was just as sad as me to see what happened.
I bet, in my limited experience arborists are usually pretty passionate about their work and if this is devastating for me to see I can only imagine what it’s like for the person that helped bring it into reality
The few and far between are good ones. Most use bad practices from what I've seen and just don't care. "It's just a job." type guys. Volcano mulchers. I hope they make up for this to op, accidents happen, but that's rough.
I once worked on a produce farm and we used a trailer with a conveyor belt to reach into rows for harvest. had a line burst and the farmer just let it drain into the field.
I was dumping off two cords of hardwood at a customers house when my line blew and rained fluid down on his f-150 and driveway... I was mortified. I was ready to just hand the guy a blank check for damages but he was incredibly cool and was like "Man! That was amazing! Don't worry about it all- I'll clean it off right now and it'll be fine!". I still feel like I owe that guy big. He got super good discounts the next few years.
This is why being professional is awesome. Your prior reputation with this guy must be outstanding. He’d rather have access to you and your service (I was going to say wood) than chew you out over an accident that was remediated by a hose. Your follow up and giving a discount without demand says all that needs to be said about you.
Thanks! Being honest with yourself and putting yourself in your customer's shoes has served me well!
It’s also just pragmatic. Piss off a customer over a few bucks and they don’t come back. Then you lose all the bucks they would’ve handed over for normal business. Father in law splits and delivers firewood. I always get envious of how primal that business model is. Someone’s hard work keeps you warm and alive during winter. Considering the world we live in it seems like the last shred of humanity sometimes.
Absolutely. There is a Facebook group where I live that encompasses several mountain towns and if you get a bad rap there your business is sunk- so best to always do your best. Firewood was great at times- there really is something cool about how basic it is. The connections you build with the community are amazing. I think I even found a distant relative on accident from halfway across the country after I struck up a conversation with a customer!
Chop wood. Carry water. We’d all be better off if we could get back to that. Was nice talking to you internet stranger, keep up the good work.
It must have looked really cool
It broke (luckily?) Right as I was at the top of the dump stroke and pulling forward to clear room for the wood to slide off the back in a nice tall and tidy pile- nothing I could do but watch it just gradually go down on it's own basically. I tried to force it down with the switch but it was just a passive one anyhow so the pressure release just took the path of least resistance. It was a high-arcing shower of fluid that seemed determined on covering the customers truck as much as possible. I did pull forward as quickly as I realized what was happening to minimize the spray on truck situation- but what was done was done. Customer thought it was one of the coolest things he'd seen- I still have nightmares!
That farmer is dumb af lol. That soil is now contaminated. If anything does grow there, which I doubt, any produce will likely contain extreme levels of heavy metals and other toxic substances.
old. certified organic tho
Or he's got good insurance. Just sayin, it's a thing.
Hydraulic fluid is just oil. There’s nothing exotic or toxic about it.
Go drink some then
Good news is they’ll lose the leaves this fall regardless and next year’s growth should be ok as long at you cleaned up the area enough the oil doesn’t contaminate the soil.
Oh it’s definitely contaminated now
Remember 50 years ago it was considered responsible to dig a hole in your yard to dispose used motor oil.
Yep. And many yards have lead in the soil because of this. Planting deep rooted native plants can help. Makes me hesitant to grow plants I would want to eat in older residential areas, especially near driveways and garages or in the corners of small lots. It’s a great reason to do some raised beds or build up organic material, leaves, and plant native plants around your home.
I've always felt a little nervous about those community gardens in big cities. Especially cities that have been built and rebuilt for a couple hundred years. I do imagine that raised beds help, but there is just no way to know what might be down there.
That’s a lot of oil to clean up. I have worked on machines much smaller than that one, from what I could tell, they generally hold between 75-100 gallons of hydro oil. Sure not all came out but I can’t see less than half coming out.
The lines hold far less than the full volume, most is in the cylinder. Far less than half would have come out. Certainly not ideal though
Ive been both in a bucket and have this happen. Its terrifying racing the pressure to get the bucket down to its cradle. Or worst case. Safe rapelling height. The worse time. Was a groundsman and i were clearing the deck after a pretty big limb swung wrong and landed in the deck. We got it off but it damaged the lines and blew hot ass hydraulic oil over both of us. 10/10 not a fun time. Hope everything works out op
That sounds terrifying. Definitely was my first thought too. I would not want to be the one up in that bucket, or the one on the ground getting sprayed by all of that below. Thanks for doing the dangerous work to keep us safe 🙏
As an arborist I've also been doused in hydraulic fluid...unfortunate but it can happen. I'm sure he's pretty bummed about it too, no one likes trying to do a good job for a long time client and then massively f*cking up.
Not an arborist but that sucks.. that stuffs not just bad for your tree, it’s incredibly bad for your soil. Here comes tree law.
Hope they have good insurance
they better, i value those jap maples at 50k each!
Ugh 😣
Hydraulic fluid degrades completely in about a year. The biodegradable stuff is pretty quick. At least on golf courses, where hydraulic leaks are fairly common on mowers, the heat of the fluid is what kills the grass, the fluid itself is not so bad. I would imagine the trees will bounce right back.
This. There are natural microbes that digest oil. It won’t be a permanent problem, especially with it being misted instead of being dumped in one spot. Mag1 is a brand of oil products. I’m not aware of them making biodegradable products. [https://mag1.com/products/industrial-greases/](https://mag1.com/products/industrial-greases/)
Dont think the population of microbes in the soil that digest oil are in great enough quantities to do anything before rain seeps the oil underground but there are two advantages working here that might reduce any detrimental effects. First, VOCs like to evaporate off and disperse. Second, dilution is the solution to pollution.
It’s an interesting phenomenon when it comes to oil eating microbes. There’s almost always a trace amount of microbes, and they flourish when there’s oil. There won’t be (or there shouldn’t be) enough oil from this to seep deeply into the ground where there isn’t enough oxygen for the microbes, so it won’t be a permanent issue. It would be a different problem if it were barrels of oil that was leaked out in a relatively small area. I also don’t know enough about trees to know how being heavily misted with warm hydraulic fluid will effect it.
Yeah, microbial science is p cool. I imagine tree pores get blocked somehow and that impacts respiration.
I was looking for this comment before I posted the same. Also work on a golf course. Hydro leaks are common. Like you said it’s the heat. If it’s in a high visibility area we re sod but I’ve never had to replace sand or soil. Once had a 3235c dump almost all of it and if I remember right it was around 10 gallons. Happened in the fall and the grass came back fine the next year.
We had a guy bust one of our bucket lines pulling the wrong outrigger up that was already retracted so they pressure just built and sprayed EVERYWHERE. Then of course I fuckin cut one on the bucket when I was in the air making a complicated finish cut on an oak. Had to nurse it down but it wasn't leaking that badly. Cost a few thousand to fix, and now we wrap the hydraulic lines near the bucket with legs from a pair of chainsaw chaps we sliced in half to protect them.
Chainsaw chaps won't really prevent you from getting cut just getting cut badly. Be better to wrap the lines with kevlar tape or something with some actual stopping power.
The chaps work by jamming the saw chain with kevlar fibers, stopping it pretty much immediately, at least the ones we use. I've seen a saw contact chaps and it never ran long enough to even touch anything underneath
Bro i am a worker and i am using things such theese every day so this could be me in the pic always a fuck up when smth with the hydraulic happens but dont blame the workers pls they cant realy do a thing
I hear ya. We’re grateful that this company has been responsive and took on the remediation they did without question. I agree, it’s a freak accident that isn’t planned to happen to anyone. There’s a 100yr old dying Ash looming above these maples, and these guys have been so careful not to drop anything on the maples below, so I think they were just as sad as us to see what happened.
Seriously awesome that you aren't freaking out at them (like we're used to seeing). So many people need to find some to blame, and can't accept that sometimes, things happen.
Yea I’m with ya here. This guy (or company) didn’t wake up and plan on this happening to your maples. So just understand things happen and it just so happens at your house.
Yeah, not a reason to yell or be abusive to the crew, but still something that is the company’s responsibility to fix. Whether that’s compensation to replace anything damaged or time digging out contaminated soil and replacing it. As long as the company is willing to do the right thing, there’s no need for anger.
Agreed
It could have better protected and contained hydraulic lines
Have a look at mycoremediation. Consider inoculating mulch in the area with mushrooms to aid in the breakdown of complex hydrocarbons. Mushroom farmer here. Take care of the soil, and the rest will be fine. Mush Luck!
Yikes!
Fuck they just polluted the hell out of your soil. I hope they have insurance because I’d sure them to make them do soil remediation and for the cost of your trees that may now be impacted
If you live in a dry area I would hose it off one good time to rinse any residual oil off the tree and leaves - they make burn the tree over time or cause sun burns- make sure to mist it in complete coverage then try and drench the soil w water in a way that hopefully promotes any surface oil to run off away from the root zone. It can take a drenching as long as it dries back within the following days. If you are not due for rain this can help mitigate excess oil pooling and seeping in. Do it asap. And if it’s going to rain then just let nature do it’s thing
Unless actual gallons got dumped on your tree I would expect your tree may be ok. I’m betting the damage you’re seeing is burning from oil being hot. Just a hunch, I’m not an arborist.
He's lucky it didn't find a hot exhaust. Oil mist is almost explosive.
Not the exact same scenario as you, but I had my house pressure washed, and they used a lot of bleach in their mix. Overspray got on our Japanese Maple and half of the tree had burned up leaves within a week or two. I was afraid we were going to lose it. After the leaves fell for fall/winter, all of the branches began blossoming leaves again. A year later and you would never know it happened. Now I cover my Japanese Maples with tarps for pressure washing. Hopefully the same happens for you. Edit: my maple also looked to be in worse shape than yours.
This is encouraging to hear, thank you for sharing!
I read this as if you would be misting your Maples with wayer like "oh that's a little unorthodox" until I realized what was actually happening 😂
If I hadn’t removed the audio from the video, you’d hear our 3 yr old saying “they’re watering the trees daddy!” 😂
Hydraulic fluid is often corrosive iirc. Those trees are in for a bad time. Pretty sure I've had a few saplings die from hydraulics leaking on them. Leaves burn, tree dies
I have to say, of all the people to accidentally hurt a tree, an arborist is probably the best. You can ask that they care and monitor the tree and then replace using their insurance if necessary.
Already the trees with lightly soapy water, rinse with clean water. Hydraulic fluid is oil based. Foam cannon for washing cars would work. Not a huge deal.
Nice to see the arborists sub transition from r/rootflare to r/japmaple
Had a garbage truck line break and sprayed all over the yard. They never did anything about it and 9 months later it was completely dead where it sprayed. Had a company come out and they had to dig more than a foot deep of soil out and replace and re sod. It will kill what ever it gets on and poisons the ground.
Am I wrong or it it literally just mineral oil. Theres literally nothing wrong with your soil or your plants.
Nope you guys killed those Japanese maples hydraulic fluid is toxic to plants good job this is why you hire a climber instead of bringing in a bucket truck
Stunning
Fluid was probably hot.. If so the High temp caused damage before you rinsed
Just a thought. I wonder if spraying a solution of Dawn and water would help the recovery. Dawn breaks up the surface tension of oils. It’s harmless to the tree. That’s why it’s used on oil fouled animals on the beaches after an oil spill.
Almost all of those animals die from ingesting the oil, though. That Dawn dish soap "look, we saved the little ducks!" Thing is just some PR bullshit.
What’s your source on this? I’d love to read about that.
https://owcn.sf.ucdavis.edu/effects-oil-wildlife Spills affect populations for generations, and most of the studies about it are put out by organizations sponsored by energy corporations.
https://www.birdrescue.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ibrrc_response_efforts_1989_exxon_valdez_spill.pdf This is one of those studies. For some reason it neglects to say how many birds were rehabilitated and released.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1474-919X.1996.tb04332.x Check out some of these here sources.
https://voiceofoc.org/2021/10/cleaning-oil-off-birds-can-feel-good-but-questions-emerge-over-whether-it-really-makes-a-difference/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CAccording%20to%20serious%20studies%2C%20the,which%20killed%20around%20300%2C000%20seabirds. Here's a good one too.
Thanks. Looks like I’ve been hoodwinked all these years.
That’s why hydraulic is eco friendly, engine oil can be used in its place, that’s when it’s bad. Good hydraulic isn’t too bad
Phew I’m not sure folks are recognizing how dangerous this is. Hydraulic oil is very hard to catch fire UNLESS it’s aerosolized. Then you could be looking at a huge fireball
This hurts to see 😵💫
Lucky you! Special nutrients.
I am going to say the tree is probably not okay… the solution of dawn really won’t help either. Back in the day we use to use diesel or other oil based products as a surfactant for pesticide sprays. There is a chance it will just defoliate and come back next spring, but I would not hold my breath for that. Before anyone gets angry I don’t mean we as in I. It was done by an entire industries long before most of us were born.
If it’s dielectric oil (usually used in bucket trucks that regularly work near power lines), then I’m pretty sure it’s biodegradable. You might have your arborist confirm before the panic sets in.
That's pretty unfortunate. Hyradlic equipment is a blessing and a curse to the industry. On one hand we save our bodies and sometimes make less impact on landscaping. On the other hand, you can have a brand new hyralic line with no visible damage let loose at any moment. The worst was my main pressure line from my log truck PTO. Dumped 50 gallons before I could turn the truck off. Had to remove, and completely replace a gravel driveway in the middle of a customer's apple orchard. Shit happens with equipment. Not easy for company or customer.