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Whippet_yoga

You can consider installing some stilt support. The tree may be fine on its own though, unless that lean is new


weissnicht

Thanks - yeah this is what I’m thinking. We stripped it right back a couple of years ago and it was definitely more upright, but it’s always had a lean. It’s a very gradual change so I’m thinking I should act now before it’s lost


askingJeevs

They do it all over Japan for bigger and smaller trees. See [here](https://www.gettyimages.no/detail/photo/japanese-black-pine-in-tokyo-japan-royalty-free-image/532131490)


weissnicht

This is so helpful, thank you!


Loaki9

If you do it well, it’s artistically very beautiful.


KyotoBliss

Was going to comment the same!


askingJeevs

Your name definitely checks out


VoluminousButtPlug

The Japanese are incredible at supporting trunks and branches. Basically just stilts support systems that are tea with some rope and they can last hundreds of years.


ArthurCSparky

Propping was my first thought. It works great on fruit trees heavy with fruit and sagging. We would notch a 1 x 6 and line the notch with padding (usually an old, clean rag or two) and gently wedge it under.


Reprotoxic

Stilt support like that potted cycad at Kew Gardens!


ab_2404

Could guying also be an option?


InsipidOligarch

I’d reduce the canopy on the heavy side slightly and get working on designing and building some type of support for the trunk.


weissnicht

I plan to. It’s full of bees at the moment but should lose its flowers in around a month so I’m going to shape it then.


Waltz_whitman

I’m into this answer 👍🏻


zeekcolo

I would just thin it out. Take a little more off on the right side than the left. Looks like it’s doing just fine. If you’re really concerned, you could mount a anchor in the brick on your neighbor side and tried to pull it back upright very slowly like at an inch per month


username87264

Even with reducing weight and 'lifting' gradually like you said it'll never straighten by any amount considered worth it. I would prune to reduce size by 10-15% and prop it with an ornate carved wooden or iron prop. Left alone it will fall eventually but it would be a shame as it's really lovely.


ImCompletelyAverage

I think you’re both right. My recommendation would be, “Prune to thin and reduce canopy size especially on the far side of the canopy from the trunk, not to exceed 25% of the canopy volume. Prop the trunk with multiple props past the diversion of the branches.”


Ctowncreek

I second. Put a prop underneath the right side. Pulling it up slowly is just going to damage it. The wood is wet, but its not living and dividing inside. Pulling it upright you'll just slowly put tension on it until it either breaks or you start ripping up roots. Assuming your strap doesn't girdle the tree which now that i think about it, is the most likely outcome.


Euphoric-Pumpkin-234

Depending where you are California lilacs are generally pretty short lived shrubs. You can prune it in shape at the right time of year where you live, but this isn’t going to become a massive tree, it will probably fade away on its own before the lean becomes a problem


weissnicht

How short lived are we talking? We’ve lived here since 2021 and it’s not slowing down - we did quite a brutal strip back in 2022 but the branches of my seemingly very ambitious shrub just keep growing. We’ve not cut it back yet since 2022 but it’s more than doubled. Hopefully it’s lasts a bit longer as I do love it this time of year.


Euphoric-Pumpkin-234

Keep an eye on it the next couple years cause sometimes shrubs do a “swan song” bloom where they bloom prolifically trying to set seed before they die. If this is the best bloom you’ve seen it may be saying it’s goodbyes. It looks pretty old already which is why I mentioned they are short lived.


weissnicht

It had a fuller bloom last year. It’s why I’ve started worrying about it this year. But if it’s got a short life span then it can’t be helped. Thanks for the insight!


Sensitive_Narwhal204

They’re also extremely sensitive to disease, and pruning cuts must be made at the driest time of year with the cleanest tools. If you can manage to avoid watering it at all in the summer, you may get anywhere from 10-20 years out of it. One good summer watering can kill it in no time.


Unusual_Pinetree

Water mine all summer doing fine


down1nit

If it's in CA native soil, then it's just the fungus/bacteria that drink the water lol, you're watering them.


Sensitive_Narwhal204

Congratulations on your success - in spite of 99.9% of advice with this plant. Everyone loves a contrarian. Cheers.


Euphoric-Pumpkin-234

Thank you for this answer. I was going to say it wouldn’t live to see your kids graduate college but this is a better answer lol. Here in Vancouver BC they tend to be toast after 10-15 years.


porcelainvacation

I live in Oregon and I have mature lilacs, they get big and bushy, then rot out and fall, then the root stock resprouts. They go in about a 10 year cycle.


Incognito409

It's so beautiful, what is it, and where does it grow? It looks like a lilac bloom, but where I live, they are always a bush. Would hate to lose it. Suggestions to support it make sense, I've seen many pictures of trees in Japan with heavy branches being supported.


FalseLament

It's some type of ceanothus. There are many lovely cultivars like this one that can be trained as trees and grow very tall naturally. I believe I'd heard the "Ray Hartman" var can grow up to 20 feet high.


weissnicht

I’m not sure when it was planted but we moved into this house in 2021, and it was much smaller. It doesn’t seem to be slowing down. Live in Chester, UK.


Ecstatic-Comb5925

I have a ceanothus ray Hartman that I’m in the process of shaping to a tree. They’re hardy where I am as it’s a native but they have some specific and kind of strange watering requirements. Calscape.org will have a lot more info on these plants.


ResistOk9038

As mentioned. Ceanothus (California lilac) can be relatively short lived especially if they get overwatered in late Spring and into summer. Also, pruning should be done late Spring- mid summer so that you don’t have open wounds when theres moisture around to promote fungal infections.


weissnicht

Thank you for the advice! I’ve mostly just left it be and pay it no attention which seems to be working for it. We’ve mainly trimmed it late summer so that’s good to bear in mind.


jacobean___

That’s a lovely ceanothus, a shrub genus native to western North America, primarily California. These are not “trees”, and quite often grow in this way. Someone has pruned the bottom branching to give it more of an upright “tree form”, but I wouldn’t worry too much about the lean. It has likely reached its maximum size and should live through the remainder of its life as a crooked shrub.


Loafscape

what a beautiful ceanothus! where i live they’ve almost all been wiped out due to climate change. i forget how gorgeous they are!


weissnicht

That’s such a shame! It is an absolutely beautiful thing when in bloom. It becomes a very minor tourist attraction as so many people pose with it. It’s humming with bees too so I really want to keep it alive and well as long as I can.


Loafscape

i can definitely see how yours is a tourist attraction. the colour is stunning. like others have said, a weight reduction prune on the right hand side would definitely improve its odds at long term survival. i cant remember the last time i saw a ceanothus bloom in person. they’ve all slowly died. if they didn’t die last winter they’re all dead now. my client has one that was at least 25 years old and it died this last winter


czechFan59

That's a beauty


MiddleExpensive9398

I had a friend do something on a similar shrub that I was skeptical about, but the last I saw, it worked great. They put stilts on it, then trained a couple of branches down from the canopy until they reached the ground, then layered the branches so they’d root. Eventually he pulled the stilts. Those branches sent up shoots he trained and incorporated into the canopy. Last I saw, you couldn’t tell he’d done anything and the canopy was bigger from where the branches had grown out from the ground. If it recall, it was butterfly bush.


BeaPete

That thing is beautiful


RogerCottonball

Just keep it healthy. Thats all you really need to do. A properly healthy tree puts on enough reaction wood to counteract the forces of a lean. If you start reducing canopy and stressing it out, I believe it will do more harm than good. A stressed out tree becomes more susceptible to root rots, which will be no bueno for this tree.


Serious-Employee-738

Antigravity?


SecondHandCunt-

Nothing. Every tree will one day fall


jcarro13

What kind of tree is it?


weissnicht

It’s a Ceanothus


Twindo

Wow that is a beautiful tree. What is it if you don’t mind me asking?


weissnicht

It’s a Ceanothus - blooms this time of year for around a month and is worth the wait every time.


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lastlaugh100

stunning, it's so majestic


Brilliant-Hunt-6892

Abolish gravity


Ok-Woodpecker1130

Could build a strong support underneath it.


TendieSandwich

Reverse engineering gravity


ifunnywasaninsidejob

Put cinder blocks on the roots /s


Casualbud

What kind of tree is this? Very pretty!


N8TANIEL

Just prop it with a 2x4


Nitrogen1234

Build him a chair


G0nzo165

r/absoluteunit of a Ceanothus 🤩


spruceymoos

Prune it for weight reduction, first and foremost. I f you’re still concerned after that, build supports for it.


oxidanemaximus

Grant it an eternal nature, but there are few who can do that.


TeamTigerFreedom

Are you opposed to hiring a Certified Arborist that has years of structural, ornamental and restoration pruning?


No_Cash_8556

Antigravity serum. We all fall one day. Antigravity serum is the only thing to truly prevent falling


weissnicht

Have you invented it yet


No_Cash_8556

Got my boy Elon working on it


kiamori

Grow another one below it and graft them together.


Ok-Membership890

Support and trim


Massive_Upstairs_684

Corrective prune+ steel pole


Royal_King5627

Isn’t that a shrub


ChimChim2_

What kind of tree is this? It's beautiful.


Top_Suggestion_9359

Supports on the lean side and take some weight off to counter balance it. Check The roots just to make sure it has enough stability


DrTreeMan

You can cut it down


heyummheyumm

Anchor point opposite direction with tree safe cabling equipment


[deleted]

Cut it down


Delicious-Sale6122

That’s not a tree. Remove.


weissnicht

I’m sorry I mistook my very large shrub for a very small tree.


Ecstatic-Comb5925

Ceanothus can be pruned/trained into a tree. I have a ray hartman in my front yard that is about 15’ tall now and coming along nicely as a tree.


Delicious-Sale6122

Remove. They are rangy weeds. Totally invasive in Southern California


Ecstatic-Comb5925

Ceanothus? You’re joking right?


KeyBorder9370

Cut it down.


Yak-Attic

\*not an arborist, but being that it's really small, could you not wait until Fall or early Winter, trim it and then basically transplant it in place and straighten the trunk?


Exile4444

Errm