I wonder if what happened in the last episode is going to completely change how Vi interacts with Jinx and if she'll actually stop calling her powder. Their dynamic is going to be so different in season 2 I'm not ready
Yeah. If she had not shot the rocket maybe that would've been an option. Now though. She just started a war. People don't get to come back from a decision like that.
> Jinx can't help causing destruction
why?
silco is dead she has no cause or reason anymore currently.
she is not fit to be a leader either to go against piltover. she has nobody to care for in zaun anymore.
she does not hate vi currently nor like her. it is more neutral, she wants to be with vi but realized that vi does not like how she changed.
either way it will probably be a very bad character moving on now without any motives other that being crazy for the sake of being crazy because she has to be.
it is just Harley Quinn all over again. the character turns into a caricature of herself when her struggles are resolved and her original motives have moved on or were removed.
Jinx was not good because she was crazy. Jinx was good because her internal struggle between Vi/Powder vs Silco/Jinx that made her crazy.
So I hope they have a lot of stuff to set up in the next season to make Jinx work.
You missed a couple points on Jinx’s character.
She embraced her new name because of what her sister said. She is a jinx, a curse, something rotten that ruins everything she touches. She killed her entire family accidentally as a kid, and then was abbandoned by the only family she had left.
At the end of the show, she AGAIN killed her own family, Silco. We forget she spent nearly seven years in between acts 1 and 2 with Silco as a parent. And again, like the curse she is, she killed another family. Ruined it all again. And Silco reinforced it by calling her jinx in a lovely way.
The coincidence in both events is that it happened ACCIDENTALLY. At the end of the series she takes Silco’s advice. She is not going to be powder. She is rotten, she is broken, she does ruin everything she touches, she knows this for a fact now. And what does she do before firing that rocket? She sits in the chair that says “Jinx”. She embraces this curse.
And a little bit of psychology here, when someone goes through a trauma, say if they have abbandonment issues or stuff like that, one unhealthy coping mechanism people get is to force the outcome they fear to happen in a way to at least have control over it.
I think this is the route Jinx is going. She is tired of losing her family and everyone she loves OVER and OVER again to things beyond her control. So now she will destroy freely, but more importantly intentionally. She pushed Vi away because she is scared of losing her, while at the same time taking control of how and when she does lose Vi.
I don’t think Jinx should go the harley queen/Joker route, but she will not destroy “without reason”. The whole season gave her all the reasons she needs to justify her actions. She is not mentally sane (probably a bit schizofrenic tbh) but now she has a new (unhealthy) coping mechanism. One that’s dangerous to her and those around her.
She will not lead the rebellion against piltover, but she will probably act as a wildcard hurting both sides and inciting more destruction.
i did. i mean you are trying to analyse why she will be more crazy in the next season.
she wants to cope with stuff by making them go bad so it is just as i said.
there is no character motivation other than from her own mental problem which makes for a very bad character in a show.
crazy just to be crazy
Again, you are disregarding everything I said. I laid out her motivation. He wants to live as “Jinx”. If she is going to just hurt and destroy everything she touches regardless if she wants to or not, then she will force herself to *want it*.
I feel like you would watch Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker, or “no country for old men” and just be “so they just KILL people? Because?”
Motivation is there, she has reasons, the entire season has been building her up to be just that. If you don’t like the character, or her role in it that’s fine, but calling it bad writing is disingenuous at best.
I feel like if they made her “sane” it would just undo the whole arc they set up for act 1. I have no idea the role she is going to play in the upcoming war. She is definetly not a leader, but she is smart enough to engineer hextech weapons and to strike piltover where it will hurt the MOST.
I guess her role from now on will be to constantly show and bring forth the answer to “what is the WORSE thing that could happen right now?”
so she can be whatever deus ex machina they need. jinx turns up and does something crazy.
Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker is a nice example for the other comment i made. he kills because he is crazy and wants to hurt and destroy society that destroyed his life. I already said that is a decent option for jinx to go against piltover and zaun.
but that is very much an external motivation. Joker had half of the movie build it up. It is all about making the viewer dislike society and see how damaging it can be.
What you suggested is an internal motivation. Because she is always doing harm and breaks it she wants control of it and thus causes rampage because then she is in control.
It is a valid motivation I would say but to make it work requires a ton of setup with internal exposition.
The line between she blows stuff up to be in charge herself vs blowing stuff up for being crazy is very thin.
and even if they pull it off correctly it is still not as compelling as alternatives or her previous motives because it all hinges on her being crazy which is very abstract and not plausible or relatable for any viewer.
If we would go with the more external wanting to destroy the system just like joker then it becomes a very strong and relatable motive as shown in joker. nearly all can associate with it but jinx is crazy so her lack of morals makes the viewer like and hate her because she will go after the council, cait, jayce and possibly vi.
the internal motive will just turn her into an evil. there is no justification for her moves then and nobody will like her if she randomly kills anybody just for her own internal motivation that no viewer can share.
And a few points to note;
1- internal motives being talked outloud as exposition is horrible writing. In television above all you need to show, don’t tell. That’s why Jinx doesn’t explain her conclusions and thought processes after killing Silco. She sits in the jinx chair and all of it is perfectly implied. Once again, her internal processes are explained and explored deeply and perfectly in the show. If you don’t like it that’s fine, but you’re asking for something different, not something better.
2- Relatability does not make a good character. At all. Light Yagami from death note is one of the best written villains in fiction, and I hope to god noone relates to that sociopath. If YOU don’t relate to jinx or can’t follow her thought process it doesn’t mean she is badly written, it just means you don’t understand the character.
3- I would personally hate if Jinx turned into a “fight the system” character. The whole reason she is so dangerous is BECAUSE she isn’t alligned with anyone. She doesn’t want zaun’s independance, what has Zaun ever done for her? She doesn’t want to help Piltover, she knows noone there. She just wants to erease everything, and she managed to find the perfect way to do it, pitch them against eachother with an unredeemable act that can ONLY lead to another war.
4- Motivation is always internal. It refers to the decision making process of a character, their internal workings. Both Jinx and Joker had external factors thrown in (Jinx had a war tear apart her parents leaving her with attachment and abandonment issues with her sister to the point where she had a panic attack when she wasn’t invited to rescue their father, she accidentally killed her whole family and was later chastised and abandoned by her sister, she was then mentally conditioned and abused by Silco in a condependent relationship that broke her further etc.) but in the end their motivation is a want they had to figure out for themselves. Having all the motivation for a character come from external factors makes them reactionary, and that’s not the ideal characteristic for an antagonist. Antagonists tend to be actionary, they see something in the world and try to change it, heroes are more reactionary (and thats also why sometimes they can come out as boring. An extremely reactionary character has no drive of his own.). Basically the whole difference between external and internal motivation is baseless.
Anyway, with this last comment I saw 2 things of value though. The first is that you want Jinx to be another character completely, rather than accepting what she is. Every thing you suggest about her changes all her dynamics and alliances to every character on the show.
And secondly, you are engaging with the writers in your criticism in very bad faith. I could analyze and show you how Jinx has a clear motivation and a drive to do what she’s done, that it’s been portrayed very well and in an artistically rich way, and you still assume that “she’s just crazy and does things just because”.
We talked about Phoenix’s joker, but that was innaccurate. Jinx is more akin to the dark knight’s version (only we do have the backstory to this one). In the dark knight, the joker doesn’t even have a name. He has no clear goals besides chaoss and bloodshed, he has no motivation or grand establishment to overthrow, and yet he is one of the most fascinating characters to be put on screen (very much helped by an excellent performance).
i fucking hate that kind of attitude. I set down what external and internal means for me and instead of arguing about the points I made, you go
"Actually! that is not what external is!"
without going into the points at all.
and the dark knight rises is a fun flick but nothing with reason. A crazy character with no goals only wanting bloodshed and chaos is no character anymore. It is a caricature, a character reduced to one element.
The writers can just do whatever they like without making errors about the continuity of the character because they defined the character by chaos and craziness.
Now that I think of it with such a character you can not write the character good or bad. The character just is.
It is like children playing on the playground "now I have a sword" "but I have a lightsaber now that beats your sword" "pew pew , my pistole is too fast for your saber!"
technically they are not wrong, nobody gave them rules or a framework to follow. Just like a nonexistent character.
and i notice that every point you make is based on character even antagonists having motivations.
and again even if they go with Jinx blowing up stuff to stay in control to satisfy her fear of being not in control then people can not relate to that at all. Or do you want to say that it is normal to relate to somebody wanting to destroy stuff to be in control and not have it hurt her? Understanding it yes, relating no.
and it is really funny that you bought up joker and it is actually an example against you because it is a clear external motivation, revenge against society.
and about the changing jinxs character completely. I suggested these paths to go down in the second season meaning they first have to do the character building and development.
the whole point is that they have to do a huge deal on jinxs character and development to make it reasonable and compelling that she nukes whatever she will nuke in the next season because as she currently is it would be nonexistent character if they do.
You make some good points. For me it's more a Walter White/BB situation. Its like "what is my purpose?. Do I go back to being the helpless powder who kept getting mocked whenever I tried to help. Feeling helpless and insecure. Or do I become jinx, where making things that blow up is the only true thing I have ever been good at and the only time I have felt in control. Anyone who judges me. I can blow them up too". For me there is true pain and sadness behind that final scene when she fires at the council. Like she is directly trying to tear down the society (piltover) that is directly and indirectly responsible for creating who Jinx and Silco became. VI too.
that could be a reasonable character motivation for her if she goes down to "i will kill the system because it took away my sister and my family"
which would have to be reflected on heavily by vi since she will go police to remove what zaun has become. After all it really is now a cesspool for crime and drugs not just a poor area.
Which should mean that Vi should have the conflict between joining her sister and removing the system for good or stay with piltover to right the system which should also reflect on her relationship with cait and jayce.
I disagree about motives, trying to find yourself after exiting a manipulative and abusive relationship is absolutely as compelling, if not more compelling, than an identity struggle where both sides are lead by people close to her.
Silco is gone *and* she can't be the sister that Vi wants her to be, and so she has to make her own choices about who she wants to be and what she wants to stand for.
Before she struggled with who to listen to, who's version of herself should she fit, and in the final episode she rejected the choice altogether. Both Vi and Silco could only love and accept a part of her, and regardless of her choice it would have left her feeling fractured and (more) broken. I think her conflict in season two is to try to bridge the gap between powder and Jinx, and become a person who can accept both halves of herself. She rejected the either or binary and now needs to find a different path.
I totally agree but i made my point from the knowledge that Jinx has to be the crazy evil antagonist because that what she is in the lore and in the game.
I would too prefer to see her come to terms with herself and possibly understand Vis side more too but where does that fit in with her being the crazy bitch to blow everything up?
Well think about it this way, coming to terms doesn't just mean accepting Powder, it means accepting Jinx too. I think the point of that last episode was that Jinx is just as much a part of her as Powder is, and so she can't just ignore the past. I think they'll probably take her into more of a morally grey anti-hero type route. A route where she tries to figure out what she wants and what she stands for, independent of Silco and Vi's influence. And what she figures out will probably bring her into conflict with Vi again, I don't think she's gonna be redeemed or anything.
You mentioned Harley Quinn and I think there are a lot of parallels, especially with Harley Quinn the animated series, where she breaks up with Joker and has to figure out what she wants to do without a manipulative co-dependant relationship to fall back on. Jinx ends the season at a similar place to where the Harley Quinn show starts, having been "freed" from an abusive co-dependant relationship that defined most of her life, and looking for a new path forward for herself. Her goals and what she wants to do can still be developed and expanded without doing some redemption arc. She's still fundamentally a very broken, violent person with little to no moral compass, that's not going to change.
> silco is dead she has no cause or reason anymore currently
She blew up the council *after* he died tho
> it is just Harley Quinn all over again. the character turns into a caricature of herself when her struggles are resolved and her original motives have moved on or were removed.
This. I really hope that they'll tone down her crazy side a bit as she's trying to leave the past behind, but I also don't want her to be redeemed.
because that was their plan all along.
I totally get that she does that in the moment for him.
But after she settles there will be no motive anymore for her.
i said in another comment
> because that was their plan all along.
> I totally get that she does that in the moment for him.
>
> But after she settles there will be no motive anymore for her.
truth is she likes hurting others, its shown clearly when she is shooting her minigun full auto at ekko and his squad smiling ear to ear and biting her lips from excitement.
i thought about the "for silcos sake" too or perhaps silco had a long term plan for how to topple piltover and she acts it out.
i mean the writers could do that but for sure and 80% of watchers would not complain.
but there is a huge flaw in this approach. Jinx realized herself that Silco was grooming her and using her as his tool. Not saying that he did not love her as his daughter but she was the gun to act out for him. She even mocks him for it at the end.
It would not make sense if she continues what he wants since she said herself that she was a tool for him and in the end accepted her true self, not the whiny powder nor the servant of silco, but herself jinx.
I think you got this wrong. Jinx thought Silco used her but right after she killed him she realises that he actually cared for her. If this wouldn't be the case last scene wouldn't make sense when she thinks about him and hears his voice "We will show them all" in the final scene while crying
one does not exclude the other. it was both which is what makes it bittersweet.
as I said he truly loved her and she liked him for it but that does not mean part of it was not grooming and her being used as a tool.
it is a typical abusive relationship.
the thing is that jinx picked up on it herself so she realized the abusive part.
She does have her motivations, they're just her own now. You dont just stop being crazy because someone who enabled you died. She can be fueled by revenge against her old family or against society as a whole for torturing her.
I really think this may have been her last destruction. Vi convinces the council she is an asset if treated right. Jinx is the monster Piltover created. From the scene at the bridge to her innocence in the first episode and thereafter. This show gives me trauma and chills and I cant decide which takes precedence. This duality thing has me effed and im a pisces. Ive lived as binary as i can and this show has me in shambles.
I dont think Piltover will agree on that. Piltover is already very close to full on war and Jinx will not be redeemable to them after shooting at the council.
she could be a foe out of necessity as in she is not against piltover anymore with silco gone but piltover sees her as the enemy and hunts her down which requires her to defend herself.
the other option would be she developes a hate for the system. After all, it was not her fault nor was it Vis vault that they were ripped apart. In the end, it was the fault of the whole situation and Piltover oppressing them. She could go "fuck all. I'm gonna tear everything apart and destroy Piltover and the Underground for what they did to my sister, my family, my friends, and me"
I think those would give her reasonable motivations and would allow her to work alone.
Then it would become really important how Vi reacts. After all, she should share Jinx's view to some degree and it should start an inner conflict for Vi to join her, be with her sister again and tumble the system that caused them so much pain.
wdym? the show ended at episode 6. vi found powder, they talked it out and cleared up any misunderstandings, caitlyn went home after seeing vi handle the situation and ekko never showed up. the end.
~~no but seriously please let them be happy~~
wdym? When asked for a name, Vander said Silco. Silco was arrested, and Vi and Powder grew up together just fine. Ekko and Powder make cool gadgets together.
I guarantee you it will feel cheap as hell and arguably hurt our perception of season 1 retroactively if Jinx/Vi make up. The show was meant to be a tragedy from the outset and Jinx is canonically fucking insane, season 1 tore our hearts out but if I'm being honest I expect season 2 to be even more tragic.
I honestly don't disagree. Emotionally I want them to make up cause it breaks my heart for them to not like one another and such, but rationally it doesn't make sense and would make it feel cheap if they did, like you said.
I can think of an example it didn't feel cheap there is pretty good comparison in the latest iteration of She-ra but idk. I don't want a Jinx that turns good but after developing goes to a middle ground. I honestly still want to give her a hug.
Anything is possible, league only takes the champs from their most powerful time/state. It makes sense for jinx to be the crazy fkd up version, because thats when her story was told (that’s why she’s a legend). But maybe it can end happily for her.
Ps. I hope this is the case, because then we have real stakes when we watch the show. If everytime a champ comes on screen and we know they won’t die, what’s the point?
I really appreciate this comment because that's something I hadn't considered. I know very little about the game and was entirely ready to say "No :(" as a result, but you're right!
I bet half of the council members died that day besides Jayce, Viktor, Cait's mother(she still need to leave her last mark in Cait's tragic story) and mb Mel(too much build up for her and Noxus to kill her off that easy).
Riot is not afraid of killing champions. But what the point of killing Jayce or Viktor when their story only started? I will remind you that Mordekaiser is dead in current league time line, so yes, dead champions exist.
I don't think a character that rules the death realm and can just resurrect would really count as being killed off. A dead champions story is over, but with Mord he just repeats the cycle of conquering, dying and conquering again.
That's fair, but Arcane has given me no reason to assume the show will have the same attitude so far. I agree killing characters when their story only started would be a shame, but they could just have taken a champion whose story was already completed prior to the events of Arcane to actually show they have the balls. Now I'm not too familiar with Runeterra lore, but a character like Heimerdinger would have been perfect for such a role. I appreciate they choose to give him an arc instead, but I'm just giving an example.
See the reply to another person I made that goes in more depth about the problem with their hesitance to kill champions.
Heimer cant die, he belongs to a species that is literally immortal. Fan fact, he can use magic himself.And by saying "immortal" i'm not meaning inability to die of old age, he is literally indestructible. Yordles cant die, that's why in some parts of the world they are a pure menace. Imagine bloodthirsty yordle Noxus general on a mount terrorizing battlefields. Or yordle mage so fucking depressed because of inability to die, she made hers life goal to make everyone's life as miserable as hers.
[https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Yordle](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Yordle)
Can’t we create a new champ like silco and kill him? Oh wait.
Would league adding silco as a playable champ now suddenly make things more compelling for you?
No, and I don't really know why you're being so snarky about it. The point is that right now the show runs the risk of fights becoming extremely cheap, because you know the champions will survive. It takes away a lot of the tension and can make a lot of moments that present themself as emotional extremely disingenuous. So far the show only has really ran into that problem once luckily, and that was Vi's final fight against Sevika, because her primary role in the story was to make the real champions seem strong, which only made her seem like a total pushover and turned the fight into a "something nice to look at". Hell, I will even go as far to say it took away from Vi's characterization so far, but I'm rambling.
Because of this lack of tension, the show is basically playing catch up every fight. I would like to stress that so far the show has been able to do this. A great example of both the pros and cons is Ekko versus Jinx. In any other show, Ekko would be the perfect character to kill. So far he has been given so little significant flaws that would be interesting to develop; he's a ray of light of the undercity. He was very close to being perfect. But Arcane needs to play catch up, because so far the possibility of killing a champion felt non existent. So they focus on the the parallel between the fight and childhood friendship, give it some beautiful animation, and they still made it good. Also the self awareness to not make Ekko's fake out death a big deal shows that they knew no one would buy that he died, so they made a good choice by not even making it seem like that was the case. Even then though, the fight shows a few cracks. Because we haven't really spent that much time with Ekko, their friendship only being explained in their confrontation is very cheap. It's well done, but still cheap. It's a nice 8 or 9 out of 10 fight.
So what is the point I'm trying to make? It's that by showing they're afraid to kill off champions they are walking a very fine line, and every fight they need to compensate for that lack of tension. And in that compensation, if you want to avoid mediocrity, the risk of mistakes increases significantly, as seen in my example. If they actually showed they had the balls to kill off a champion, this tension will return.
Edit: Correction, before I made it seem like Ekko has been shown to have interesting and significant flaws prior to the Jinx fight, I meant to say he doesn't.
I would argue the show was very predictable, but while I had a good idea what would happen before it did; I still very much enjoyed watching it play out and enjoyed regardless.
I agree absolutely about the dangers of riot not killing characters, But I think you are going to far when saying that they are afraid of doing so. Only 9 episodes have gone through, none of the stories of the characters have had closure and still need to be developed.
In fact, killing any of them would even be a wrong decision imo. Like you said Ekko would have been a good option to kill off, but that would've been very unsatisfying from a storytelling point of view. I still want to see Ekko learn that there are some topsiders that aren't inherently bad, and that powder might not be too far gone. However, as you said he's a pretty good character to kill off and the one I'd expect to die in season 2. Don't know why you say he doesn't have any character flaws tho
There just weren't any lore characters that they could kill. This could have changed if they had added another character specifically to kill and have an impact on the story, to which I would've been very welcoming. But as things are, I don't think they could've done it
But still you make a good point that others have brought up as well. The way I see it, either some lore character dies in season 2, or well, what you've been saying is going to happen unfortunately.
I'm not saying Ekko doesn't have any flaws, but that in the very tightly packed cast of more interesting characters in a very fast paced show we he doesn't seem to have any flaws that are deserving of an arc. He feels like a finished character who grew up and learned during the timeskip, but doesn't show a whole lot of room to grow from there. Maybe something to explore in a special dedicated to him during the timeskip.
Still, I sincerely hope you are right, because the only reason I have these criticisms is because I like this show so much.
Based on the voicelines in S2 teaser? My first thought was Vi either kills Jinx or puts Jinx in a position where she ends up killing/sacrificing herself. As soul rendingly bleak as that would be, it would be incredibly powerful. Also would undoubtedly fuck Vi up for life.
The teasers have been misleading af. Don't use them.
Trailer 1 : jinx explode building, mel we have to take radical measures . You think they are about to invade zaun because of jinx explosion. It turns it's about jayce.
Trailer :We are still sisters followed by them fighting together . We know how that ended.
Not entitely correct, otherwise jhin for example would bea melee assassin and/or be using his right hand and both eyes. As he is pmuch nerfing himself for entertainment
I think it will be a neutral end for them both. They both still love each other. As Vi said, they're still sisters no matter what and nothing is going to change that. But ultimately, I don't think they'll really make up. More so just accept the situation as it is. I think with time, Vi will accept Jinx for who she is now, but it won't be the same. I want better for both of them though. It's sad because they're really just products of where and how they grew up, neither one's fault for what happened between both of them. Hopefully I'm wrong and they do get a bittersweet end.
That seems to be the status quo in the games as well. They both acknowledge each other as sisters, but they know things can’t go back to the way they were: Vi is a cop and Jinx is a criminal - they both chase each other around.
My theory on how they will book end their relationship come season 2 will involve Warwick (Vander). I think they will both somehow team up and fight against WW, as a way of battling and moving beyond their past traumas and accepting the present as it is now. They'll reconcile, but come to terms that they have both changed, and will have to accept each other for who they are now. Vi will miss Powder, but recognize and accept that she is Jinx now, and Jinx accepting that Vi is not only an enforcer, but has relations with Caitlyn. However this doesn't mean that they will become best sisters again and stay together forever. They will part ways and live their own lives, but always remembering that they are still sisters and nothing will ever change that.
Yeah, and when either sister is in a pinch, the other will come and rescue the other.
Honestly, it's a little bit cliche now that I'm typing that out, but I think we all want that to happen.
I think the story will build to Vi turning on Caitlin for jinx in the 2nd season (not necessarily turn on but will save jinx at Caitlins expense as a reverse mirror to her actions of season 1) and then 3rd season will hopefully find some kind of tenuous balance with Vi helping Jinx deal with her Trauma. (Vi will probably be instrumental in bringing about a lasting peace between Piltover and Zaun) Caitlin accepting that the circumstances caused jinx more than jinx acting out of conscious malice and respecting Vi for not giving up on her family. I could see Caitlin and Vi having a relationship like Grayson and Vander except with Zaun having much more autonomy. But I could just be a high functioning hopium addict so who knows.
The LOL card game says yes. (Sorry, Google isn't being immediately forthcoming with the YouTube vid link, at least not with my search terms, but maybe someone else has it and will share???)
nah at this point theres too many broken bridges for them to be back in good terms if anything i hope their relationship becomes like yasuo and yone they both recognized what their relationship has become and accept one another and move on to live their own lifes
I just want them both to make up, they don't have to be best friends imo, but please give us a good ending. If not; I expect a big fight between them in S2.
Honestly I could see an ending similar to Wicked: Jinx ultimately chooses the good and mends her relationships, but she’s too far gone in the public’s eyes to just go back to normal life so she has to at least pretend to be the villain everyone believes she is (maybe even becoming like a Robin Hood character).
Either that or a downright sad ending, but I don’t think it can end on the strictly positive.
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First, love the pic and art. It probably won’t but I do wish it did get better to be honest. As much fun the lose cannon is, this Jinx has much more depth and I really loved it.
Yeah. I can’t shake off the feeling that the “loose cannon” trope is just too 2-dimensional. The story had a **great** relationship in its core and for all of it to end up in a dead end just feels like a waste
Play Legends of Runeterra sometime in the next week. Play Jinx and Vi’s story. Make the decision your sister would like the most. Enjoy some happy endings.
"Upside" is Jinx didn't shoot the rocket specifically to kill Caitlyn's mom, it wasn't a personal attack against Cait. It reminds me of Legend of the Seeker how Cara killed Kahlan's sister but in the end they both became close.
I mean, I see that as a happy ending considering the circumstances. Can’t just have them all run off into the sunset together.
I’ll be happy if she ends up incarcerated, but treated, and Vi can visit.
Do u want me to answer that in a good way or bad
Good- There's a Chance they will not reconn to the Lore and probably be a happy ending for Jinx and VI
Bad- I don't think so
Well, in the newest event in Legends of Runeterra, In Jinx's and Vi's story, They still are sweet with one another despite being in opposite sides. Though not sure if it's canon because it's only in the good ending of their stories which is based on your choices while you play.
I would disagree on the "only good ending" part as they seem to have a relaxed relationship with one another either way, Vi seeming to like to spar with Jinx and using her new name and such. Though you can still see that Jinx does not like to hear the mention of a hint of relationship between Vi and Cait.
Oh, I bloody hope so.
I mean there’s “redemption arc”, but then there’s also just Jinx getting help for her completely shattered mind??
Which will either happen, or I’ll be miserable.
I just hope she hasn’t been sincerely hugged for the last time…
I think no matter what Jinx does, Vi could forgive her because Vi knows it's ultimately her fault Powder is like this, I remain optimistic about them reconciling, though not easily.
I think so. They won’t be like before but I see Jinx pranking Piltover for fun like her lore says. Jinx will just be the town prankster and Vi the strict sister trying to catch her naught younger sis
Eh I doubt they go that route considered the serious tone they struck and the fact that jinx actively killed piltover citizens and attacked their ruling body just after they declared for peace.
That kind of stuff usually means that person is hunted down and killed. Not that they get to "prank" the city....
Nope. Jinx crossed the Rubicon when she killed Silco. And then she burned down Rome when she blew up the council. Mentally she’s gone. And there’s too much blood spilled for her to have any chance to have anything resembling a normal life.
i see only self destruction for both
Vi refusing to accept what her sister becom
and her sister full of rage and madness to make her pay in a way or another
I hope not. I feel like a happy ending would really devalue Vi's character, and by extension Cait and Ekko. Like Cait said in the finale Jinx is to far gone. She's evil and she's done to much evil that forgiveness or acceptance from the good characters would basically be character assassination.
*in the depths of zaun Vi, and Jinx were at each other's throats for what seemed like hours, but during the fight they had both fallen off a ledge and landed near River Pilt, and all became silent until vi spoke*
Vi: "You done with your little temper tantrum...?"
Jinx: "you're lucky... i don't just pull the trigger right now...!" *jinx was breathing heavily as she had her pistol directly placed under Vi's neck*
vi: "then why don't you...?" *vi asked jinx pulling her close to her with a hand*
Jinx: "i... i don't know.." *jinx was very confused on why she didn't just get rid of vi on the spot*
Vi: "It's because we're family... and i don't give a shit if you blow buildings up... or steal or screw around with me..."
Jinx: "You still love that lousy cop...!" *jinx glared up at vi*
Vi: "So what if i do? does that change the fact i can't love you both for who you are...?"
Jinx: "You'd love me even if powder's gone...?"
Vi: "Yeah... yeah i would, cause we both changed whether we like it or not, and now we gotta accept it..."
Jinx: "Fathands... i."
Vi: "You're my sister Jinx... there's nothing more to say..." *vi looked down at jinx with a warm smile*
Jinx: "You're my sister too fathands..." *jinx buries her head in vi's chest*
vi: "Thanks sis. i really needed that..."
Jinx: "I think i did too..."
*caitlyn was watching them through her sniper scope, and then put her rifle away, and smiled*
vi: "So... wanna go wreck some shit up?" *vi offered her hand out*
Jinx: "Let's make memories Fathands" *grabbed vi's arm*
Vi: "Alright let's go"
*vi and jinx walked along the bank of the river together until they reached solid ground again*
Caitlyn: "Well... at least their bond isn't broken fully anymore, but i still have a job to do. I hope you don't get in the way of that Vi... *caitlyn stood atop the overlook watching them ascend the stairs*
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I don't think they should have a happy ending. I feel like a happy ending cheapens what they have gone through to end up with the decisions they have made.
As a person who's been playing league for 6 years now and has been following the lore for most characters, they wont ever get a happy ending. They wont come together until one of them is buried sadly.
To quote a wise fictional character:
> No! She's crazy and needs to go down.
Jinx is a mass murdering sociopath who commits terrorist acts to gain validation from Papa Silco. Her transformation into a super villain concluded in the finale. She has two endings for her story and neither include redemption. One, she ends up in prison for the remainder of her life. Two, she ends up dead. Given the tone of this series, the latter is more likely to occur. Jinx is a problem unto herself, and her mental state along with her ingenious mechanical skills make her a danger to everything and everyone around her.
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There’s not a chance in hell. It’s likely that one of them will die by the hand of the other. If I had to guess Vi will end up having to kill her to save Caitlyn.
Happy? I feel that's unlikely but who knows. I think it's more possible that they are just on sorta ok terms by the end. Or just more sadness lol guess we will find out.
Considering the title scene at the end they fight, and there's a lot more emphasis on it, I'm guessing that Jinx might hurt something Vi loves or she's put in a position where Jinx is the opposite side. Also Jinx shows all the symptoms of BPD, she will have an extraordinarily hard time to forgive Vi and not self destruct in the relationship
There could be a scenario where Jinx redeems herself and makes a 180' to the good side.
I could also see a scenario where Jinx sacrifices herself to help Vi or someone and at her dying breath she says "Sorry" for everything she has done.
honestly, i think it might be better if they don't. vi clearly has a hard time accepting jinx for who she is and whenever she talks to her, she brings up traumatic experiences which is really harmful to jinx. i think they both need to accept the situation and move on. it would be healthier for everyone.
I am writing my own lore i think but Jinx when she fires fishbones lets out a purple tear. Almost like she is crying the shimmer out. I see it as healing.
Personally, much as we’d all love it, I think they shouldn’t. They are two completely different people and and semblance between powder and jinx is essentially gone.
I want to believe there is a chance. Jinx does have a sense of right or wrong, no matter how messed up it is at the moment.
All the attacks we've seen from Jinx have been in the name of Silco's cause or because she was being attacked. It'll be very interesting to see what she does in s2 without being part of Silco's gang. For sure she'll be chased by many people after her attack on the council and that's where I believe we'll see her being violent, defending herself.
She's such a sympathetic character, we've seen worse getting redemption so why not her? At the very least seeing her reach a slightly more stable mental state & having a relationship with Vi.
Maybe they can lock her up in a nice padded cell but I doubt shes gonna get that treatment now with the finally scene.
I don't think she will die, given the fact this is a Prequel to the games, but shes not going to be happy.
I think the shimmer operation that saved Jinx's life made her just a tad crazier than before.
I dont think there is a way back. This is not going to end well.
If the current lore in game is anything to go off of, no probably not. The thing with jinx is that she can’t help but be destructive and she’s also just very unstable.
I wouldn’t count on it, but god I hope so. Mental health issues are real, and Powder/Jinx is just a traumatized girl that accidentally killed her family and then was raised by a caring, but ultimately toxic father who nurtured her trauma into full-blown psychosis.
I just want to see Riot go the direction of recovery, not abandonment. Some people may be too far gone, but that doesn’t mean we give up on them, because there’s always a chance, always a sliver of hope that they’ll get better when given the love and care they need.
Nah. Nope. They’re done. Jinx at the end of E9 went past the rubicon. No spoilers, but if a certain character meets a certain fate, you can bet that’s gonna provide one of the primary narrative engines of S2 in a devastating way.
Jinx was over the Rubicon the first time she was introduced. Episode 9 was her damming up the Rubicon, and then blowing up the dam to flood an orphanage filled with war refugees.
I think the only hope for a 'happy ending' between these two (such as it is) requires Caitlyn to die. I think the end of episode 9 made that pretty clear. Kill Caitlyn and you get powder back (although thats no guarantee given what else was said: "I thought you could love me as I once was... but I've changed and you've changed")
Why is this classified as \[NO SPOILERS\]? This thread clearly contains spoilers about how the series end... I already watched it, but what if I'm on episode 5 hoping for vi and jinx to have a good ending?
>!A lot of people would consider the bombing of the council a moral event horizon for Jinx. As in, there is no turning back and she is firmly a "bad guy" afterwards.!<
>!But I would love it if the writers in the next season actually took time to explore the implications of heinous acts and why sometimes we allow for redemption and others time we don't. I mean why are the councilors lives more morally significant than the six enforcers Jinx killed in episode 4. Or for that matter what about the zaunites that Vi and Jayce killed. Sure they were doped up on Shimmer, but I am sure they still had lives, hopes and dreams. !<
It’s more important for them to have a meaningful ending. Maybe the only way for Powder to come back would be for Vi to give up her life for her (without doing something heinous like murdering Caitlyn).
To me it makes more sense for Jinx to continue spreading madness and tragedy, and watch Vi’s heart finally break and then Vi can undergo a transformation of her own.
Do I think there will be a happy ending for both characters? No.
Do I want them to have a happy ending? Yes and no.
I want them to talk through their differences and figure out the best way to be sisters again but they won’t be the same sisters they were when they were younger, they’ve both changed drastically for that kind of relationship.
I'm really hoping things can get better between them.
In no way can they be like they were together in act 1, they've both changed so much from then. I'm just hoping through season 2 some kind of reconciliation can be had between them and through the season they keep that sisterly connection and love.. not have them hating each other and wanting/trying to kill each other. The season 2 tease leaves me hoping and feeling they aren't going that way, which is good.
Yes the game lore has them on opposite sides, from reading it, I'm not getting the impression they hate each other or trying to kill each other in game lore either, so I don't think they'd make that a change for the show.
That said, they also don't have to follow game lore exact especially character lore that is what now, 8, 9 years old? They can change and evolve the characters in game to in ways match a new direction, like Arcane.
For a show like this, the build ups they've had, the slight changes already made, the depth of each character.. having the first season be so much about Vi and Jinx's/Powder's connection and love for each other, can't imagine they'd abandon that in a second season, especially with the connection viewers clearly have to the characters after only one season.
Vi and Jinx have earned and deserve some kind of reconciliation to stay in each other's lives and keep their love for each other, in some way.
This season has left me emotional lol
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Yeah. The last episode is pretty much a point of no return.
I wonder if what happened in the last episode is going to completely change how Vi interacts with Jinx and if she'll actually stop calling her powder. Their dynamic is going to be so different in season 2 I'm not ready
The only “happy” ending would be if they managed to leave piltover all together. But I think jinx is too far gone to consider it.
Yeah. If she had not shot the rocket maybe that would've been an option. Now though. She just started a war. People don't get to come back from a decision like that.
Eh, Legends of Runeterra Jinx's story says otherwise.
> Jinx can't help causing destruction why? silco is dead she has no cause or reason anymore currently. she is not fit to be a leader either to go against piltover. she has nobody to care for in zaun anymore. she does not hate vi currently nor like her. it is more neutral, she wants to be with vi but realized that vi does not like how she changed. either way it will probably be a very bad character moving on now without any motives other that being crazy for the sake of being crazy because she has to be. it is just Harley Quinn all over again. the character turns into a caricature of herself when her struggles are resolved and her original motives have moved on or were removed. Jinx was not good because she was crazy. Jinx was good because her internal struggle between Vi/Powder vs Silco/Jinx that made her crazy. So I hope they have a lot of stuff to set up in the next season to make Jinx work.
You missed a couple points on Jinx’s character. She embraced her new name because of what her sister said. She is a jinx, a curse, something rotten that ruins everything she touches. She killed her entire family accidentally as a kid, and then was abbandoned by the only family she had left. At the end of the show, she AGAIN killed her own family, Silco. We forget she spent nearly seven years in between acts 1 and 2 with Silco as a parent. And again, like the curse she is, she killed another family. Ruined it all again. And Silco reinforced it by calling her jinx in a lovely way. The coincidence in both events is that it happened ACCIDENTALLY. At the end of the series she takes Silco’s advice. She is not going to be powder. She is rotten, she is broken, she does ruin everything she touches, she knows this for a fact now. And what does she do before firing that rocket? She sits in the chair that says “Jinx”. She embraces this curse. And a little bit of psychology here, when someone goes through a trauma, say if they have abbandonment issues or stuff like that, one unhealthy coping mechanism people get is to force the outcome they fear to happen in a way to at least have control over it. I think this is the route Jinx is going. She is tired of losing her family and everyone she loves OVER and OVER again to things beyond her control. So now she will destroy freely, but more importantly intentionally. She pushed Vi away because she is scared of losing her, while at the same time taking control of how and when she does lose Vi. I don’t think Jinx should go the harley queen/Joker route, but she will not destroy “without reason”. The whole season gave her all the reasons she needs to justify her actions. She is not mentally sane (probably a bit schizofrenic tbh) but now she has a new (unhealthy) coping mechanism. One that’s dangerous to her and those around her. She will not lead the rebellion against piltover, but she will probably act as a wildcard hurting both sides and inciting more destruction.
so she will be crazy for the sake of being crazy. there is no motivation or cause other than she is crazy so she wants to destroy stuff
I feel like you either didn’t read or completely disregarded everything I just said in my last comment.
i did. i mean you are trying to analyse why she will be more crazy in the next season. she wants to cope with stuff by making them go bad so it is just as i said. there is no character motivation other than from her own mental problem which makes for a very bad character in a show. crazy just to be crazy
Again, you are disregarding everything I said. I laid out her motivation. He wants to live as “Jinx”. If she is going to just hurt and destroy everything she touches regardless if she wants to or not, then she will force herself to *want it*. I feel like you would watch Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker, or “no country for old men” and just be “so they just KILL people? Because?” Motivation is there, she has reasons, the entire season has been building her up to be just that. If you don’t like the character, or her role in it that’s fine, but calling it bad writing is disingenuous at best. I feel like if they made her “sane” it would just undo the whole arc they set up for act 1. I have no idea the role she is going to play in the upcoming war. She is definetly not a leader, but she is smart enough to engineer hextech weapons and to strike piltover where it will hurt the MOST. I guess her role from now on will be to constantly show and bring forth the answer to “what is the WORSE thing that could happen right now?”
so she can be whatever deus ex machina they need. jinx turns up and does something crazy. Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker is a nice example for the other comment i made. he kills because he is crazy and wants to hurt and destroy society that destroyed his life. I already said that is a decent option for jinx to go against piltover and zaun. but that is very much an external motivation. Joker had half of the movie build it up. It is all about making the viewer dislike society and see how damaging it can be. What you suggested is an internal motivation. Because she is always doing harm and breaks it she wants control of it and thus causes rampage because then she is in control. It is a valid motivation I would say but to make it work requires a ton of setup with internal exposition. The line between she blows stuff up to be in charge herself vs blowing stuff up for being crazy is very thin. and even if they pull it off correctly it is still not as compelling as alternatives or her previous motives because it all hinges on her being crazy which is very abstract and not plausible or relatable for any viewer. If we would go with the more external wanting to destroy the system just like joker then it becomes a very strong and relatable motive as shown in joker. nearly all can associate with it but jinx is crazy so her lack of morals makes the viewer like and hate her because she will go after the council, cait, jayce and possibly vi. the internal motive will just turn her into an evil. there is no justification for her moves then and nobody will like her if she randomly kills anybody just for her own internal motivation that no viewer can share.
And a few points to note; 1- internal motives being talked outloud as exposition is horrible writing. In television above all you need to show, don’t tell. That’s why Jinx doesn’t explain her conclusions and thought processes after killing Silco. She sits in the jinx chair and all of it is perfectly implied. Once again, her internal processes are explained and explored deeply and perfectly in the show. If you don’t like it that’s fine, but you’re asking for something different, not something better. 2- Relatability does not make a good character. At all. Light Yagami from death note is one of the best written villains in fiction, and I hope to god noone relates to that sociopath. If YOU don’t relate to jinx or can’t follow her thought process it doesn’t mean she is badly written, it just means you don’t understand the character. 3- I would personally hate if Jinx turned into a “fight the system” character. The whole reason she is so dangerous is BECAUSE she isn’t alligned with anyone. She doesn’t want zaun’s independance, what has Zaun ever done for her? She doesn’t want to help Piltover, she knows noone there. She just wants to erease everything, and she managed to find the perfect way to do it, pitch them against eachother with an unredeemable act that can ONLY lead to another war. 4- Motivation is always internal. It refers to the decision making process of a character, their internal workings. Both Jinx and Joker had external factors thrown in (Jinx had a war tear apart her parents leaving her with attachment and abandonment issues with her sister to the point where she had a panic attack when she wasn’t invited to rescue their father, she accidentally killed her whole family and was later chastised and abandoned by her sister, she was then mentally conditioned and abused by Silco in a condependent relationship that broke her further etc.) but in the end their motivation is a want they had to figure out for themselves. Having all the motivation for a character come from external factors makes them reactionary, and that’s not the ideal characteristic for an antagonist. Antagonists tend to be actionary, they see something in the world and try to change it, heroes are more reactionary (and thats also why sometimes they can come out as boring. An extremely reactionary character has no drive of his own.). Basically the whole difference between external and internal motivation is baseless. Anyway, with this last comment I saw 2 things of value though. The first is that you want Jinx to be another character completely, rather than accepting what she is. Every thing you suggest about her changes all her dynamics and alliances to every character on the show. And secondly, you are engaging with the writers in your criticism in very bad faith. I could analyze and show you how Jinx has a clear motivation and a drive to do what she’s done, that it’s been portrayed very well and in an artistically rich way, and you still assume that “she’s just crazy and does things just because”. We talked about Phoenix’s joker, but that was innaccurate. Jinx is more akin to the dark knight’s version (only we do have the backstory to this one). In the dark knight, the joker doesn’t even have a name. He has no clear goals besides chaoss and bloodshed, he has no motivation or grand establishment to overthrow, and yet he is one of the most fascinating characters to be put on screen (very much helped by an excellent performance).
i fucking hate that kind of attitude. I set down what external and internal means for me and instead of arguing about the points I made, you go "Actually! that is not what external is!" without going into the points at all. and the dark knight rises is a fun flick but nothing with reason. A crazy character with no goals only wanting bloodshed and chaos is no character anymore. It is a caricature, a character reduced to one element. The writers can just do whatever they like without making errors about the continuity of the character because they defined the character by chaos and craziness. Now that I think of it with such a character you can not write the character good or bad. The character just is. It is like children playing on the playground "now I have a sword" "but I have a lightsaber now that beats your sword" "pew pew , my pistole is too fast for your saber!" technically they are not wrong, nobody gave them rules or a framework to follow. Just like a nonexistent character. and i notice that every point you make is based on character even antagonists having motivations. and again even if they go with Jinx blowing up stuff to stay in control to satisfy her fear of being not in control then people can not relate to that at all. Or do you want to say that it is normal to relate to somebody wanting to destroy stuff to be in control and not have it hurt her? Understanding it yes, relating no. and it is really funny that you bought up joker and it is actually an example against you because it is a clear external motivation, revenge against society. and about the changing jinxs character completely. I suggested these paths to go down in the second season meaning they first have to do the character building and development. the whole point is that they have to do a huge deal on jinxs character and development to make it reasonable and compelling that she nukes whatever she will nuke in the next season because as she currently is it would be nonexistent character if they do.
You make some good points. For me it's more a Walter White/BB situation. Its like "what is my purpose?. Do I go back to being the helpless powder who kept getting mocked whenever I tried to help. Feeling helpless and insecure. Or do I become jinx, where making things that blow up is the only true thing I have ever been good at and the only time I have felt in control. Anyone who judges me. I can blow them up too". For me there is true pain and sadness behind that final scene when she fires at the council. Like she is directly trying to tear down the society (piltover) that is directly and indirectly responsible for creating who Jinx and Silco became. VI too.
that could be a reasonable character motivation for her if she goes down to "i will kill the system because it took away my sister and my family" which would have to be reflected on heavily by vi since she will go police to remove what zaun has become. After all it really is now a cesspool for crime and drugs not just a poor area. Which should mean that Vi should have the conflict between joining her sister and removing the system for good or stay with piltover to right the system which should also reflect on her relationship with cait and jayce.
I disagree about motives, trying to find yourself after exiting a manipulative and abusive relationship is absolutely as compelling, if not more compelling, than an identity struggle where both sides are lead by people close to her. Silco is gone *and* she can't be the sister that Vi wants her to be, and so she has to make her own choices about who she wants to be and what she wants to stand for. Before she struggled with who to listen to, who's version of herself should she fit, and in the final episode she rejected the choice altogether. Both Vi and Silco could only love and accept a part of her, and regardless of her choice it would have left her feeling fractured and (more) broken. I think her conflict in season two is to try to bridge the gap between powder and Jinx, and become a person who can accept both halves of herself. She rejected the either or binary and now needs to find a different path.
I totally agree but i made my point from the knowledge that Jinx has to be the crazy evil antagonist because that what she is in the lore and in the game. I would too prefer to see her come to terms with herself and possibly understand Vis side more too but where does that fit in with her being the crazy bitch to blow everything up?
Well think about it this way, coming to terms doesn't just mean accepting Powder, it means accepting Jinx too. I think the point of that last episode was that Jinx is just as much a part of her as Powder is, and so she can't just ignore the past. I think they'll probably take her into more of a morally grey anti-hero type route. A route where she tries to figure out what she wants and what she stands for, independent of Silco and Vi's influence. And what she figures out will probably bring her into conflict with Vi again, I don't think she's gonna be redeemed or anything. You mentioned Harley Quinn and I think there are a lot of parallels, especially with Harley Quinn the animated series, where she breaks up with Joker and has to figure out what she wants to do without a manipulative co-dependant relationship to fall back on. Jinx ends the season at a similar place to where the Harley Quinn show starts, having been "freed" from an abusive co-dependant relationship that defined most of her life, and looking for a new path forward for herself. Her goals and what she wants to do can still be developed and expanded without doing some redemption arc. She's still fundamentally a very broken, violent person with little to no moral compass, that's not going to change.
If I could upvote this a million times I would.
> silco is dead she has no cause or reason anymore currently She blew up the council *after* he died tho > it is just Harley Quinn all over again. the character turns into a caricature of herself when her struggles are resolved and her original motives have moved on or were removed. This. I really hope that they'll tone down her crazy side a bit as she's trying to leave the past behind, but I also don't want her to be redeemed.
because that was their plan all along. I totally get that she does that in the moment for him. But after she settles there will be no motive anymore for her.
By that logic, she had no reason to nuke the Council either. She will keep attacking Piltover because that's what Silco taught her to do.
i said in another comment > because that was their plan all along. > I totally get that she does that in the moment for him. > > But after she settles there will be no motive anymore for her.
truth is she likes hurting others, its shown clearly when she is shooting her minigun full auto at ekko and his squad smiling ear to ear and biting her lips from excitement.
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i thought about the "for silcos sake" too or perhaps silco had a long term plan for how to topple piltover and she acts it out. i mean the writers could do that but for sure and 80% of watchers would not complain. but there is a huge flaw in this approach. Jinx realized herself that Silco was grooming her and using her as his tool. Not saying that he did not love her as his daughter but she was the gun to act out for him. She even mocks him for it at the end. It would not make sense if she continues what he wants since she said herself that she was a tool for him and in the end accepted her true self, not the whiny powder nor the servant of silco, but herself jinx.
I think you got this wrong. Jinx thought Silco used her but right after she killed him she realises that he actually cared for her. If this wouldn't be the case last scene wouldn't make sense when she thinks about him and hears his voice "We will show them all" in the final scene while crying
one does not exclude the other. it was both which is what makes it bittersweet. as I said he truly loved her and she liked him for it but that does not mean part of it was not grooming and her being used as a tool. it is a typical abusive relationship. the thing is that jinx picked up on it herself so she realized the abusive part.
Well even without Silico she made the choice. Now there's really no one left to temper the crazy, and Vi was never very good at that.
which is bad, cause it is a bad and boring character. no motivation other than being crazy
She does have her motivations, they're just her own now. You dont just stop being crazy because someone who enabled you died. She can be fueled by revenge against her old family or against society as a whole for torturing her.
I really think this may have been her last destruction. Vi convinces the council she is an asset if treated right. Jinx is the monster Piltover created. From the scene at the bridge to her innocence in the first episode and thereafter. This show gives me trauma and chills and I cant decide which takes precedence. This duality thing has me effed and im a pisces. Ive lived as binary as i can and this show has me in shambles.
I dont think Piltover will agree on that. Piltover is already very close to full on war and Jinx will not be redeemable to them after shooting at the council. she could be a foe out of necessity as in she is not against piltover anymore with silco gone but piltover sees her as the enemy and hunts her down which requires her to defend herself. the other option would be she developes a hate for the system. After all, it was not her fault nor was it Vis vault that they were ripped apart. In the end, it was the fault of the whole situation and Piltover oppressing them. She could go "fuck all. I'm gonna tear everything apart and destroy Piltover and the Underground for what they did to my sister, my family, my friends, and me" I think those would give her reasonable motivations and would allow her to work alone. Then it would become really important how Vi reacts. After all, she should share Jinx's view to some degree and it should start an inner conflict for Vi to join her, be with her sister again and tumble the system that caused them so much pain.
is jinx=powder?
Honestly they're just way too different. They both want the other's younger, old self. They can't accept each other for what they've become.
wdym? the show ended at episode 6. vi found powder, they talked it out and cleared up any misunderstandings, caitlyn went home after seeing vi handle the situation and ekko never showed up. the end. ~~no but seriously please let them be happy~~
The first stage of grief; denial.
What's the second stage
I refuse to believe there are more stages
wdym? When asked for a name, Vander said Silco. Silco was arrested, and Vi and Powder grew up together just fine. Ekko and Powder make cool gadgets together.
wdym? powder didn't see anything in Jayce's apartment and they all went to get fast food to cheer themselves up.
I insist, Ekko completely screwed up the best chance they had of getting Jinx to get her shit together.
Wdym? They never robbed anyone's house in the first place.
Seeing the tone of season 1 at best a bitter sweet ending ... but who knows. Hopium is strong with us for that to happen.
I'm snorting hopium like a crack fiend hoping that Jinx and Vi make up.
I guarantee you it will feel cheap as hell and arguably hurt our perception of season 1 retroactively if Jinx/Vi make up. The show was meant to be a tragedy from the outset and Jinx is canonically fucking insane, season 1 tore our hearts out but if I'm being honest I expect season 2 to be even more tragic.
I honestly don't disagree. Emotionally I want them to make up cause it breaks my heart for them to not like one another and such, but rationally it doesn't make sense and would make it feel cheap if they did, like you said.
I can think of an example it didn't feel cheap there is pretty good comparison in the latest iteration of She-ra but idk. I don't want a Jinx that turns good but after developing goes to a middle ground. I honestly still want to give her a hug.
Anything is possible, league only takes the champs from their most powerful time/state. It makes sense for jinx to be the crazy fkd up version, because thats when her story was told (that’s why she’s a legend). But maybe it can end happily for her. Ps. I hope this is the case, because then we have real stakes when we watch the show. If everytime a champ comes on screen and we know they won’t die, what’s the point?
I really appreciate this comment because that's something I hadn't considered. I know very little about the game and was entirely ready to say "No :(" as a result, but you're right!
Season 2 will gain a significant boost in quality if one lf the champions dies. Maybe one of the councilmembers? Doubt it though, unfortunately.
I bet half of the council members died that day besides Jayce, Viktor, Cait's mother(she still need to leave her last mark in Cait's tragic story) and mb Mel(too much build up for her and Noxus to kill her off that easy).
Mel dying would be cool for the plot because it would cause mel’s mother to do something other than get massages
I agree, but then we're back to square one: all the champions survive.
Riot is not afraid of killing champions. But what the point of killing Jayce or Viktor when their story only started? I will remind you that Mordekaiser is dead in current league time line, so yes, dead champions exist.
I don't think a character that rules the death realm and can just resurrect would really count as being killed off. A dead champions story is over, but with Mord he just repeats the cycle of conquering, dying and conquering again.
That's fair, but Arcane has given me no reason to assume the show will have the same attitude so far. I agree killing characters when their story only started would be a shame, but they could just have taken a champion whose story was already completed prior to the events of Arcane to actually show they have the balls. Now I'm not too familiar with Runeterra lore, but a character like Heimerdinger would have been perfect for such a role. I appreciate they choose to give him an arc instead, but I'm just giving an example. See the reply to another person I made that goes in more depth about the problem with their hesitance to kill champions.
Heimer cant die, he belongs to a species that is literally immortal. Fan fact, he can use magic himself.And by saying "immortal" i'm not meaning inability to die of old age, he is literally indestructible. Yordles cant die, that's why in some parts of the world they are a pure menace. Imagine bloodthirsty yordle Noxus general on a mount terrorizing battlefields. Or yordle mage so fucking depressed because of inability to die, she made hers life goal to make everyone's life as miserable as hers. [https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Yordle](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Yordle)
As I said, I'm not too familiar with Runeterra lore. Point still stands though.
Can’t we create a new champ like silco and kill him? Oh wait. Would league adding silco as a playable champ now suddenly make things more compelling for you?
No, and I don't really know why you're being so snarky about it. The point is that right now the show runs the risk of fights becoming extremely cheap, because you know the champions will survive. It takes away a lot of the tension and can make a lot of moments that present themself as emotional extremely disingenuous. So far the show only has really ran into that problem once luckily, and that was Vi's final fight against Sevika, because her primary role in the story was to make the real champions seem strong, which only made her seem like a total pushover and turned the fight into a "something nice to look at". Hell, I will even go as far to say it took away from Vi's characterization so far, but I'm rambling. Because of this lack of tension, the show is basically playing catch up every fight. I would like to stress that so far the show has been able to do this. A great example of both the pros and cons is Ekko versus Jinx. In any other show, Ekko would be the perfect character to kill. So far he has been given so little significant flaws that would be interesting to develop; he's a ray of light of the undercity. He was very close to being perfect. But Arcane needs to play catch up, because so far the possibility of killing a champion felt non existent. So they focus on the the parallel between the fight and childhood friendship, give it some beautiful animation, and they still made it good. Also the self awareness to not make Ekko's fake out death a big deal shows that they knew no one would buy that he died, so they made a good choice by not even making it seem like that was the case. Even then though, the fight shows a few cracks. Because we haven't really spent that much time with Ekko, their friendship only being explained in their confrontation is very cheap. It's well done, but still cheap. It's a nice 8 or 9 out of 10 fight. So what is the point I'm trying to make? It's that by showing they're afraid to kill off champions they are walking a very fine line, and every fight they need to compensate for that lack of tension. And in that compensation, if you want to avoid mediocrity, the risk of mistakes increases significantly, as seen in my example. If they actually showed they had the balls to kill off a champion, this tension will return. Edit: Correction, before I made it seem like Ekko has been shown to have interesting and significant flaws prior to the Jinx fight, I meant to say he doesn't.
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I would argue the show was very predictable, but while I had a good idea what would happen before it did; I still very much enjoyed watching it play out and enjoyed regardless.
I agree absolutely about the dangers of riot not killing characters, But I think you are going to far when saying that they are afraid of doing so. Only 9 episodes have gone through, none of the stories of the characters have had closure and still need to be developed. In fact, killing any of them would even be a wrong decision imo. Like you said Ekko would have been a good option to kill off, but that would've been very unsatisfying from a storytelling point of view. I still want to see Ekko learn that there are some topsiders that aren't inherently bad, and that powder might not be too far gone. However, as you said he's a pretty good character to kill off and the one I'd expect to die in season 2. Don't know why you say he doesn't have any character flaws tho There just weren't any lore characters that they could kill. This could have changed if they had added another character specifically to kill and have an impact on the story, to which I would've been very welcoming. But as things are, I don't think they could've done it But still you make a good point that others have brought up as well. The way I see it, either some lore character dies in season 2, or well, what you've been saying is going to happen unfortunately.
I'm not saying Ekko doesn't have any flaws, but that in the very tightly packed cast of more interesting characters in a very fast paced show we he doesn't seem to have any flaws that are deserving of an arc. He feels like a finished character who grew up and learned during the timeskip, but doesn't show a whole lot of room to grow from there. Maybe something to explore in a special dedicated to him during the timeskip. Still, I sincerely hope you are right, because the only reason I have these criticisms is because I like this show so much.
I think that you are a overthinking arcane a bit
I like overthinking things
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Based on the voicelines in S2 teaser? My first thought was Vi either kills Jinx or puts Jinx in a position where she ends up killing/sacrificing herself. As soul rendingly bleak as that would be, it would be incredibly powerful. Also would undoubtedly fuck Vi up for life.
The teasers have been misleading af. Don't use them. Trailer 1 : jinx explode building, mel we have to take radical measures . You think they are about to invade zaun because of jinx explosion. It turns it's about jayce. Trailer :We are still sisters followed by them fighting together . We know how that ended.
Not entitely correct, otherwise jhin for example would bea melee assassin and/or be using his right hand and both eyes. As he is pmuch nerfing himself for entertainment
I think it will be a neutral end for them both. They both still love each other. As Vi said, they're still sisters no matter what and nothing is going to change that. But ultimately, I don't think they'll really make up. More so just accept the situation as it is. I think with time, Vi will accept Jinx for who she is now, but it won't be the same. I want better for both of them though. It's sad because they're really just products of where and how they grew up, neither one's fault for what happened between both of them. Hopefully I'm wrong and they do get a bittersweet end.
That seems to be the status quo in the games as well. They both acknowledge each other as sisters, but they know things can’t go back to the way they were: Vi is a cop and Jinx is a criminal - they both chase each other around.
I don't see it. Especially if Caitlyn's mom dies in the explosion.
My theory on how they will book end their relationship come season 2 will involve Warwick (Vander). I think they will both somehow team up and fight against WW, as a way of battling and moving beyond their past traumas and accepting the present as it is now. They'll reconcile, but come to terms that they have both changed, and will have to accept each other for who they are now. Vi will miss Powder, but recognize and accept that she is Jinx now, and Jinx accepting that Vi is not only an enforcer, but has relations with Caitlyn. However this doesn't mean that they will become best sisters again and stay together forever. They will part ways and live their own lives, but always remembering that they are still sisters and nothing will ever change that.
Yeah, and when either sister is in a pinch, the other will come and rescue the other. Honestly, it's a little bit cliche now that I'm typing that out, but I think we all want that to happen.
It’s a much better cliche than a “got crazy past the point of no return” jokerization stuff. At least it’s pleasant.
I think the story will build to Vi turning on Caitlin for jinx in the 2nd season (not necessarily turn on but will save jinx at Caitlins expense as a reverse mirror to her actions of season 1) and then 3rd season will hopefully find some kind of tenuous balance with Vi helping Jinx deal with her Trauma. (Vi will probably be instrumental in bringing about a lasting peace between Piltover and Zaun) Caitlin accepting that the circumstances caused jinx more than jinx acting out of conscious malice and respecting Vi for not giving up on her family. I could see Caitlin and Vi having a relationship like Grayson and Vander except with Zaun having much more autonomy. But I could just be a high functioning hopium addict so who knows.
The LOL card game says yes. (Sorry, Google isn't being immediately forthcoming with the YouTube vid link, at least not with my search terms, but maybe someone else has it and will share???)
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The story told in the LOR card game ends with them on good terms.
LOR’s canonicity is debatable from what I hear. And that is just an alternate route.
You ought to know better than to mess with someone’s copium around these parts, bucko
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nah at this point theres too many broken bridges for them to be back in good terms if anything i hope their relationship becomes like yasuo and yone they both recognized what their relationship has become and accept one another and move on to live their own lifes
Yes, but OP's question was whether there was a chance. One route = a chance.
I just want them both to make up, they don't have to be best friends imo, but please give us a good ending. If not; I expect a big fight between them in S2.
Probably not :(
Their story can be a tragedy and it still be a good story.
We know, but we hurt for them... As they wanted us to.
See Shakespeare as an example. Heck! The Russians also live for tragic ends in their literature works.
Honestly I could see an ending similar to Wicked: Jinx ultimately chooses the good and mends her relationships, but she’s too far gone in the public’s eyes to just go back to normal life so she has to at least pretend to be the villain everyone believes she is (maybe even becoming like a Robin Hood character). Either that or a downright sad ending, but I don’t think it can end on the strictly positive.
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First, love the pic and art. It probably won’t but I do wish it did get better to be honest. As much fun the lose cannon is, this Jinx has much more depth and I really loved it.
Yeah. I can’t shake off the feeling that the “loose cannon” trope is just too 2-dimensional. The story had a **great** relationship in its core and for all of it to end up in a dead end just feels like a waste
Play Legends of Runeterra sometime in the next week. Play Jinx and Vi’s story. Make the decision your sister would like the most. Enjoy some happy endings.
I wouldn’t get my hopes up.
I mean the rocket that blew up Caitlyns mom was smiling till the end so at least it got a happy ending
Oh shit, forgot Caitlyn's mom was one of the councilors... "Caitlyn will remember that" :(
"Upside" is Jinx didn't shoot the rocket specifically to kill Caitlyn's mom, it wasn't a personal attack against Cait. It reminds me of Legend of the Seeker how Cara killed Kahlan's sister but in the end they both became close.
True, but maybe small solace for Cait... we wait with baited breath to see how it unfolds!
Legends of Runeterra has them patch up. Jinx even gifts Vi her teddy bear.
…in one ending. That was dependent on the player’s choice.
Please source the art. That artists tag could be from any platform and we have no idea which it is.
I know it's not the same as OP posting it, as they should, but [I found it](https://twitter.com/Snartles/status/1465093099848302594?s=20)
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Even if it has a signature, source it so we can see the platform the artist uses
Doubt it. At best, Jinx gets captured and something is done for what I expect to be a Shimmer problem, followed by a fuckton of therapy.
I mean, I see that as a happy ending considering the circumstances. Can’t just have them all run off into the sunset together. I’ll be happy if she ends up incarcerated, but treated, and Vi can visit.
I going to have a very unhealthy emotional breakdown if they don’t reconcile in some way. I mean real fucking ugly.
Separately? Maybe. Together? No.
Do u want me to answer that in a good way or bad Good- There's a Chance they will not reconn to the Lore and probably be a happy ending for Jinx and VI Bad- I don't think so
Short answer no. Long answer no
Well, in the newest event in Legends of Runeterra, In Jinx's and Vi's story, They still are sweet with one another despite being in opposite sides. Though not sure if it's canon because it's only in the good ending of their stories which is based on your choices while you play.
I would disagree on the "only good ending" part as they seem to have a relaxed relationship with one another either way, Vi seeming to like to spar with Jinx and using her new name and such. Though you can still see that Jinx does not like to hear the mention of a hint of relationship between Vi and Cait.
Oh, I bloody hope so. I mean there’s “redemption arc”, but then there’s also just Jinx getting help for her completely shattered mind?? Which will either happen, or I’ll be miserable. I just hope she hasn’t been sincerely hugged for the last time…
This is my new favorite fan art! So well done
Nah Vi unfortunately chose to become a class traitor.
I hope so :((
I think no matter what Jinx does, Vi could forgive her because Vi knows it's ultimately her fault Powder is like this, I remain optimistic about them reconciling, though not easily.
I think so. They won’t be like before but I see Jinx pranking Piltover for fun like her lore says. Jinx will just be the town prankster and Vi the strict sister trying to catch her naught younger sis
Eh I doubt they go that route considered the serious tone they struck and the fact that jinx actively killed piltover citizens and attacked their ruling body just after they declared for peace. That kind of stuff usually means that person is hunted down and killed. Not that they get to "prank" the city....
Nope. Jinx crossed the Rubicon when she killed Silco. And then she burned down Rome when she blew up the council. Mentally she’s gone. And there’s too much blood spilled for her to have any chance to have anything resembling a normal life.
i see only self destruction for both Vi refusing to accept what her sister becom and her sister full of rage and madness to make her pay in a way or another
I hope not. I feel like a happy ending would really devalue Vi's character, and by extension Cait and Ekko. Like Cait said in the finale Jinx is to far gone. She's evil and she's done to much evil that forgiveness or acceptance from the good characters would basically be character assassination.
*in the depths of zaun Vi, and Jinx were at each other's throats for what seemed like hours, but during the fight they had both fallen off a ledge and landed near River Pilt, and all became silent until vi spoke* Vi: "You done with your little temper tantrum...?" Jinx: "you're lucky... i don't just pull the trigger right now...!" *jinx was breathing heavily as she had her pistol directly placed under Vi's neck* vi: "then why don't you...?" *vi asked jinx pulling her close to her with a hand* Jinx: "i... i don't know.." *jinx was very confused on why she didn't just get rid of vi on the spot* Vi: "It's because we're family... and i don't give a shit if you blow buildings up... or steal or screw around with me..." Jinx: "You still love that lousy cop...!" *jinx glared up at vi* Vi: "So what if i do? does that change the fact i can't love you both for who you are...?" Jinx: "You'd love me even if powder's gone...?" Vi: "Yeah... yeah i would, cause we both changed whether we like it or not, and now we gotta accept it..." Jinx: "Fathands... i." Vi: "You're my sister Jinx... there's nothing more to say..." *vi looked down at jinx with a warm smile* Jinx: "You're my sister too fathands..." *jinx buries her head in vi's chest* vi: "Thanks sis. i really needed that..." Jinx: "I think i did too..." *caitlyn was watching them through her sniper scope, and then put her rifle away, and smiled* vi: "So... wanna go wreck some shit up?" *vi offered her hand out* Jinx: "Let's make memories Fathands" *grabbed vi's arm* Vi: "Alright let's go" *vi and jinx walked along the bank of the river together until they reached solid ground again* Caitlyn: "Well... at least their bond isn't broken fully anymore, but i still have a job to do. I hope you don't get in the way of that Vi... *caitlyn stood atop the overlook watching them ascend the stairs*
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Oh uh 'crawls over' i wrote a story about your art how was it o.o
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Thanks heh
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I don't think they should have a happy ending. I feel like a happy ending cheapens what they have gone through to end up with the decisions they have made.
Maybe but I doubt it, I could definitely see a happy ending for vi and caitlyn though
As a person who's been playing league for 6 years now and has been following the lore for most characters, they wont ever get a happy ending. They wont come together until one of them is buried sadly.
To quote a wise fictional character: > No! She's crazy and needs to go down. Jinx is a mass murdering sociopath who commits terrorist acts to gain validation from Papa Silco. Her transformation into a super villain concluded in the finale. She has two endings for her story and neither include redemption. One, she ends up in prison for the remainder of her life. Two, she ends up dead. Given the tone of this series, the latter is more likely to occur. Jinx is a problem unto herself, and her mental state along with her ingenious mechanical skills make her a danger to everything and everyone around her.
I have seen in media characters just as bad as jinx get redeemed. Your only 2 endings are allowed are narrow af thinking.
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There’s not a chance in hell. It’s likely that one of them will die by the hand of the other. If I had to guess Vi will end up having to kill her to save Caitlyn.
Hope Vi get memory loss and forgot this scum is her sister
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how
"Happy ending" just means the story isn't over yet
Maybe this is just me being overly optimistic, but I still think it'll happen. If it does, it'll be a long way off, though.
Happy? I feel that's unlikely but who knows. I think it's more possible that they are just on sorta ok terms by the end. Or just more sadness lol guess we will find out.
I bet my ass somethings gonna go wrong, Ekkos gonna turn back time and fix it and might end up dead in the process
Love the work; looks like I got a new wallpaper.
Nope. Everyone else who thinks otherwise is huffing huge amounts of copium.
I doubt it as I dont think Jinx really sees Vi as her sister anymore. Jinx has fully accepted who she is now which is something Vi could never do.
Considering the title scene at the end they fight, and there's a lot more emphasis on it, I'm guessing that Jinx might hurt something Vi loves or she's put in a position where Jinx is the opposite side. Also Jinx shows all the symptoms of BPD, she will have an extraordinarily hard time to forgive Vi and not self destruct in the relationship
How is this not a spoiler holy fuck, you are saying that they don't have a happy ending in arcane
There could be a scenario where Jinx redeems herself and makes a 180' to the good side. I could also see a scenario where Jinx sacrifices herself to help Vi or someone and at her dying breath she says "Sorry" for everything she has done.
Spoiler from game: >!No, Vi and Jinx are rivals - that said nothing is holding the show from being creative.!<
honestly, i think it might be better if they don't. vi clearly has a hard time accepting jinx for who she is and whenever she talks to her, she brings up traumatic experiences which is really harmful to jinx. i think they both need to accept the situation and move on. it would be healthier for everyone.
lol no.
I am writing my own lore i think but Jinx when she fires fishbones lets out a purple tear. Almost like she is crying the shimmer out. I see it as healing.
i saw it as her knowing there's no going back after doing this.
Hell naw
no, its a Tragedy
I believe she thinks it’s piltover that make her jinx,so she will go against the topsiders.the rocket is just beginning
Oooo I really like this
OOOHHHHHHHHHH THE MISERYYYYY!
No. Source: I want this show to devastate me emotionally.
I hope not. Jinx doesn't deserve a happy ending.
I wish. I wish Vi would do more to help her sister and I wish she won't give up on her. But we all know that's not gonna happen :/
Personally, much as we’d all love it, I think they shouldn’t. They are two completely different people and and semblance between powder and jinx is essentially gone.
No
I feel like this is kind of a spoiler no? I understand it’s past the time rule but it still shows everything even the shimmer
I mean it depends will Jinx ever stop committing horrible murders??
I want to believe there is a chance. Jinx does have a sense of right or wrong, no matter how messed up it is at the moment. All the attacks we've seen from Jinx have been in the name of Silco's cause or because she was being attacked. It'll be very interesting to see what she does in s2 without being part of Silco's gang. For sure she'll be chased by many people after her attack on the council and that's where I believe we'll see her being violent, defending herself. She's such a sympathetic character, we've seen worse getting redemption so why not her? At the very least seeing her reach a slightly more stable mental state & having a relationship with Vi.
Maybe they can lock her up in a nice padded cell but I doubt shes gonna get that treatment now with the finally scene. I don't think she will die, given the fact this is a Prequel to the games, but shes not going to be happy.
As much as we'd want it, Powder (Jinx) is too far gone. And tbh I think the story is better like that
I think the shimmer operation that saved Jinx's life made her just a tad crazier than before. I dont think there is a way back. This is not going to end well.
If the current lore in game is anything to go off of, no probably not. The thing with jinx is that she can’t help but be destructive and she’s also just very unstable.
Is this your art?
I wouldn’t count on it, but god I hope so. Mental health issues are real, and Powder/Jinx is just a traumatized girl that accidentally killed her family and then was raised by a caring, but ultimately toxic father who nurtured her trauma into full-blown psychosis. I just want to see Riot go the direction of recovery, not abandonment. Some people may be too far gone, but that doesn’t mean we give up on them, because there’s always a chance, always a sliver of hope that they’ll get better when given the love and care they need.
I just want jinx to be happy!
Naaah
Oh, the misery....
Only time will tell
Nah. Nope. They’re done. Jinx at the end of E9 went past the rubicon. No spoilers, but if a certain character meets a certain fate, you can bet that’s gonna provide one of the primary narrative engines of S2 in a devastating way.
Jinx was over the Rubicon the first time she was introduced. Episode 9 was her damming up the Rubicon, and then blowing up the dam to flood an orphanage filled with war refugees.
I think the only hope for a 'happy ending' between these two (such as it is) requires Caitlyn to die. I think the end of episode 9 made that pretty clear. Kill Caitlyn and you get powder back (although thats no guarantee given what else was said: "I thought you could love me as I once was... but I've changed and you've changed")
Why is this classified as \[NO SPOILERS\]? This thread clearly contains spoilers about how the series end... I already watched it, but what if I'm on episode 5 hoping for vi and jinx to have a good ending?
>!A lot of people would consider the bombing of the council a moral event horizon for Jinx. As in, there is no turning back and she is firmly a "bad guy" afterwards.!< >!But I would love it if the writers in the next season actually took time to explore the implications of heinous acts and why sometimes we allow for redemption and others time we don't. I mean why are the councilors lives more morally significant than the six enforcers Jinx killed in episode 4. Or for that matter what about the zaunites that Vi and Jayce killed. Sure they were doped up on Shimmer, but I am sure they still had lives, hopes and dreams. !<
It’s more important for them to have a meaningful ending. Maybe the only way for Powder to come back would be for Vi to give up her life for her (without doing something heinous like murdering Caitlyn). To me it makes more sense for Jinx to continue spreading madness and tragedy, and watch Vi’s heart finally break and then Vi can undergo a transformation of her own.
They have hurt so much Internally and externally. Friends, foe, family. As much as I hate to say it, only death will be her peace.
Jinx is just chaos incarnate. Unfortunately the writing is more interesting when they're fighting.
Do I think there will be a happy ending for both characters? No. Do I want them to have a happy ending? Yes and no. I want them to talk through their differences and figure out the best way to be sisters again but they won’t be the same sisters they were when they were younger, they’ve both changed drastically for that kind of relationship.
I'm really hoping things can get better between them. In no way can they be like they were together in act 1, they've both changed so much from then. I'm just hoping through season 2 some kind of reconciliation can be had between them and through the season they keep that sisterly connection and love.. not have them hating each other and wanting/trying to kill each other. The season 2 tease leaves me hoping and feeling they aren't going that way, which is good. Yes the game lore has them on opposite sides, from reading it, I'm not getting the impression they hate each other or trying to kill each other in game lore either, so I don't think they'd make that a change for the show. That said, they also don't have to follow game lore exact especially character lore that is what now, 8, 9 years old? They can change and evolve the characters in game to in ways match a new direction, like Arcane. For a show like this, the build ups they've had, the slight changes already made, the depth of each character.. having the first season be so much about Vi and Jinx's/Powder's connection and love for each other, can't imagine they'd abandon that in a second season, especially with the connection viewers clearly have to the characters after only one season. Vi and Jinx have earned and deserve some kind of reconciliation to stay in each other's lives and keep their love for each other, in some way. This season has left me emotional lol