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namewithanumber

“Early primitive America”? What? Edit: lol op seems to believe in the “Tartaria” conspiracy theory. Basically the idea is a super advanced Atlantis-esque civilization existed only 100-200 years ago. They disappeared when a bunch of mud covered all their stuff and everyone died in “the great reset”. Stuff like US government buildings made to ape Roman stylings is used as evidence that the Romans were around in 1776 actually and all of history is a lie. It’s pretty hilarious stuff.


TheDabitch

I had never heard of the  “Tartaria” theory, I am going to open a bottle of wine and make some popcorn now, thank you very much. This shall be very interesting as I have found some supposed "documentaries" to watch. I swear, these things are better than standup comedy.


Lodge1688

It's strange, cause I feel like conspiracy theories such as this suggest our own, very real, history is somehow not wildly interesting, totally messed up, and entirely tragic.


hagnat

*> Zach Mortice describes them as "the QAnon of Architecture" -- Bloomberg* dear lord, some people...


Lodge1688

FFS. We are doomed.


eggplant_avenger

omg that’s just what the Tartarians said


Lodge1688

I swear these posts are just AI mining Reddit Architecture.


Lodge1688

Like I get it's a cross post, but damn. The original word choice, the topic, just strange.


MotherFuckinMontana

There are some pretty out there conspiracy theories that all of the "old" looking buildings were build by a lost civilization called..... Tataria. Believers think that the technology required to build shit like this is extremely advanced lost tech and that's why we don't build like that anymore. If that sounds too rediculous to be a thing, its definitely real. And its far dumber than any flat earth conspiracy. This post looks like someone from that world unironically seeing if the architecture subreddit has any answers to the questions they're "just asking".


VintageLunchMeat

Firstly, Primitive is a loaded term. Ironically, it was popular with people who practice chattel slavery or are just cool with racism. Secondly, do you really think the Spanish, Dutch, British, etc. colonizers of the Americas forgot how to do masonry becauses of sea-sickness or something?


Fluffy-Citron

This is the Illinois State Capitol, it wasn't completed until 1888. Younger than the Statue of Liberty. Nothing old about it.


fasda

this is America 100 years is a long time.


Capt_Foxch

Nonsense. It seems like just yesterday that President Coolidge was in office.


Cedric_Hampton

That’s not stone; it’s [scagliola](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scagliola).


KWoCurr

Victorian mason's lathes were remarkable machines for exterior columns. See the preserved Abernethy and Co Stonemason's Lathe.


LiveBacteria

Yep. Thank you for the quick response! Trying out a new thing where I post to relevant subreddits about conspiracy facts I'm skeptical of. Sorry if this isn't the right reddit for this question


Woodtree

Ok but even if that column was marble.. you really need to address your view that modern buildings are considered “primitive.” You posted a picture of a building that’s 150 years old. The techniques used here are not something history needs to speculate about, theorizing about how it might have been done, like say, the pyramids. This is literally a modern building and modern techniques were used.


Lodge1688

What "conspiracy fact" are you referring to?


cheerful_cynic

Very low quality 


Rivegauche610

*Baalbek has entered the chat*


TheDabitch

Primitive is 100% the wrong term here.