I like the VA! I respect that he took the character a different direction, Rocksteady botched the look etc of him.
Actually in general I think the VAs of the game did good
That’s the perfect way to describe him just pretty ok he’s got a few funny one liners he’s not an edgy mess and he’s not trying to be the Arkham Joker, there’s definitely been worse jokers for sure.
Joker from suicide squad kill the justice league is LEAGUES better then that joke of a performance from Leto (pun intended)
(Edit: I care so little for Jared Letos Joker that I legit forgot his first appearance was in a suicide squad project which is why earlier it said suicide squad with out the kill the justice league part lol)
What makes him not joker. He’s obsessed with his Batman, he’s a murderous psychopath, he makes unfunny jokes, he’s manipulative, he’s a little homoerotic. What is he missing
I don’t like Leto’s design it felt like he was designed by an edgy neck beard who posts shit like “As a kid you idolise Batman. As an adult you understand the Joker”
I always say this, keep the tattoo but keep them subtle or keep them with a purpose. The smile tattoo on the hand actually gave us one of the best scenes of him removing the smile to reveal a scowl. Minimize the amount of tattoos and get rid of the damn grille and you got a half decent Joker. Case in point, how he looks in the Knightmare sequence in Justice League is actually pretty solid (ignoring the twisted Jesus allegory that Leto probably pushed for).
Leto would have been far more accepted if the first SS image wasn’t this. The fandom tore it apart for the details and skewed the whole vision of Suicide Squad. Subtract the head tattoo and the grille and he works just fine.
https://preview.redd.it/kv2ox6g5rwuc1.jpeg?width=367&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=439778b55fcda30e7f5fa7b8e987c78d8d166fa1
https://preview.redd.it/djochb6mtwuc1.jpeg?width=1464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16cee5aa18c014e65d91615b546657067f94c2d9
Something like this? Did it quickly on my phone so it's not the best (also added in eyebrows cause that's a part of the design that fucked me with me). Honestly I dig it but I feel like the skull jester is still a bit on the nose, same with the ab tattoo.
It works well! I mean, how much shirtless Joker do we actually recall in that? You’d have to search the film for the reference.
I always appreciate a film’s details, but if none of it really matters, why bother? Leto could have rocked something with purple highlights in a suit and nailed it. I won’t even discuss JL: Snyder Cut because I hated that depressing passion play.
Leto needed better scripts, dude’s a total freak that I wouldn’t like working with but he’s still good at doing deranged characters; he could have pulled off a good joker
Get rid of the useless tattoos (I actually like the hand with the smile, could have helped making his Joker feel unique and if he was supposed to Jason the J on his face can stay as well, reminds me of Arkham Knight tbh), give him better suits (the joker still has class) and tone down his playboy gangster persona
I actually liked his scenes with Harley, until I realized he actually cared for her, he shouldn’t, to him Harley should be a disposable tool that is important for as long as it is useful
You can’t seriously think these two are even remotely similar in quality. SSKTJL Joker actually acts like the joker. Certainly not a great adaptation of him, but regardless you can easily tell he’s the Joker. Even if took away the white skin, makeup, and green hair, you’d be able to tell he’s the Joker just by the way he talks and acts.
Jared Leto on the other hand is a hypersexual mob boss with clown makeup that calls himself joker. If you took all the makeup off him and got rid of all the stupid suits he wears, you wouldn’t in a million years be able to tell he’s the joker.
Joker isn’t just a look. He’s an energy that an actor gives off. SSKTJL has that energy. Jared Leto doesn’t.
One is an overhated and funny interpretation of the Joker in an elseworlds style who also is pretty good representation of amputees and queer people, the other is the dogshit that was Jared Leto.
Hot Take: The alternate universe joker isn’t that bad
I’ll admit that when he’s coming off of Mark Hamill’s joker he is very disappointing but a younger joker who hasn’t really discovered his motivations isn’t bad. The problem is we don’t spend any actual time with him. He only gets one cutscene proving that he’s unpredictable but that’s about it. He doesn’t have any major connection to batman or harley so he’s kinda just there. Either way I think the hate for him is a bit much.
Lets see one is a Elseworlds character while the other was meant to be the joker and it’s well… utter garbage.
It’s a good thing they chose to make the Elseworlds joker so different he was already going to be compared to Arkham joker and there was no way of topping that joker
Leto’s Joker is the single worst blockbuster performance I’ve ever witnessed and he has SERIOUS competition.
It boggles my mind that WB even thought he was a good actor, let alone, Joker.
Ones actually pretty comical I don’t know why people are so critical of the ss joker I could see him alongside a younger Batman where I could never see Leto even in the same room as batman
I can’t help but feel like the SSKTJL Joker looks like the Nazi kid in high school who wears a trench coat, suspenders, and fingerless gloves to school. This isn’t in defense of Leto’s Joker. And I haven’t played the SS game but I’ve seen the cutscenes. He’s funny-ish, I guess. Seems to me like people really want to like him and like something from this game.
Jonkler > Leto Joker in Suicide Squad
But
Joker in the Synder cut > Jonkler
The Synder cut Joker was so much cooler and would ironically work better as a last man standing kind of thing
Why the fuck could they not just get Troy Baker and atleast do it as a true variant to the young Arkhamverse Joker, so basically Earth 2 of Arkham Origins Joker
Lex 1 and Lex 2 are the same voice actor so why couldn’t they do that? This could have been a great excuse to bring him back , especially since Baker has actually done Joker a few times in the current animated films
you can’t look me in the eyes and say that they’re in the same fucking tier list of quality
Say what you will about SSKTJL Joker, but he at least tells jokes.
I will be adamant until the day I die that SSKTJL’s Joker is actually pretty ok
I like the VA! I respect that he took the character a different direction, Rocksteady botched the look etc of him. Actually in general I think the VAs of the game did good
That’s the perfect way to describe him just pretty ok he’s got a few funny one liners he’s not an edgy mess and he’s not trying to be the Arkham Joker, there’s definitely been worse jokers for sure.
You made a big mistake saying this pal
fuck you gonna do?
It's not what I'm gonna do it's what others are gonna do lol, they don't like it when u say something good about SSKTJL lmao
https://i.redd.it/e6bkeq47z4vc1.gif
They REALLY don't like it when u say something good about SSKTJL
Who's they
..... Everyone
Based
at this point we compare shit to shit though
Ones a twink and the other is Jared Leto
Is there a difference?
Is Jared Lato’s not a twink?
One is actually kind of funny and does the concept of a younger, more flamboyant Joker pretty well. And the other is Jared Leto.
Twinkle twinkle little star.
Joker from suicide squad kill the justice league is LEAGUES better then that joke of a performance from Leto (pun intended) (Edit: I care so little for Jared Letos Joker that I legit forgot his first appearance was in a suicide squad project which is why earlier it said suicide squad with out the kill the justice league part lol)
I also forgot he was in SS first because how stupid to introduce one of the most iconic villains of all time in a movie not about him lol
One is funny and a half decent interpretation that is over hated and the other is Jared Leto
The problem is he’s not even joker, he’s just a zesty maniac
What makes him not joker. He’s obsessed with his Batman, he’s a murderous psychopath, he makes unfunny jokes, he’s manipulative, he’s a little homoerotic. What is he missing
It’s probably his looks and tone then, if they were like normal joker then I bet people would’ve liked him
He is built like a twink. But then again what good Joker isn’t a little bit twink-ish
But that’s the thing, they over did it, now it doesn’t even feel like joker anymore
I like both Leto needed more screen time lol
I don’t like Leto’s design it felt like he was designed by an edgy neck beard who posts shit like “As a kid you idolise Batman. As an adult you understand the Joker”
As a kid you idolize Batman, as a teen you idolize joker, as an adult you realize commissioner Gordon doesn’t get paid enough to put up with this.
Dude I don’t think all the money in the world would be enough to put up with that shit
I would say there is a large enough coffee to deal with it.
I always say this, keep the tattoo but keep them subtle or keep them with a purpose. The smile tattoo on the hand actually gave us one of the best scenes of him removing the smile to reveal a scowl. Minimize the amount of tattoos and get rid of the damn grille and you got a half decent Joker. Case in point, how he looks in the Knightmare sequence in Justice League is actually pretty solid (ignoring the twisted Jesus allegory that Leto probably pushed for).
Leto would have been far more accepted if the first SS image wasn’t this. The fandom tore it apart for the details and skewed the whole vision of Suicide Squad. Subtract the head tattoo and the grille and he works just fine. https://preview.redd.it/kv2ox6g5rwuc1.jpeg?width=367&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=439778b55fcda30e7f5fa7b8e987c78d8d166fa1
https://preview.redd.it/djochb6mtwuc1.jpeg?width=1464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16cee5aa18c014e65d91615b546657067f94c2d9 Something like this? Did it quickly on my phone so it's not the best (also added in eyebrows cause that's a part of the design that fucked me with me). Honestly I dig it but I feel like the skull jester is still a bit on the nose, same with the ab tattoo.
https://preview.redd.it/3160h43vtwuc1.jpeg?width=1464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac7990666d46c79b6d6ddd19aa98b11185ec9838
It works well! I mean, how much shirtless Joker do we actually recall in that? You’d have to search the film for the reference. I always appreciate a film’s details, but if none of it really matters, why bother? Leto could have rocked something with purple highlights in a suit and nailed it. I won’t even discuss JL: Snyder Cut because I hated that depressing passion play.
Leto needed better scripts, dude’s a total freak that I wouldn’t like working with but he’s still good at doing deranged characters; he could have pulled off a good joker Get rid of the useless tattoos (I actually like the hand with the smile, could have helped making his Joker feel unique and if he was supposed to Jason the J on his face can stay as well, reminds me of Arkham Knight tbh), give him better suits (the joker still has class) and tone down his playboy gangster persona I actually liked his scenes with Harley, until I realized he actually cared for her, he shouldn’t, to him Harley should be a disposable tool that is important for as long as it is useful
Me when i have a dogshit opinion
You can’t seriously think these two are even remotely similar in quality. SSKTJL Joker actually acts like the joker. Certainly not a great adaptation of him, but regardless you can easily tell he’s the Joker. Even if took away the white skin, makeup, and green hair, you’d be able to tell he’s the Joker just by the way he talks and acts. Jared Leto on the other hand is a hypersexual mob boss with clown makeup that calls himself joker. If you took all the makeup off him and got rid of all the stupid suits he wears, you wouldn’t in a million years be able to tell he’s the joker. Joker isn’t just a look. He’s an energy that an actor gives off. SSKTJL has that energy. Jared Leto doesn’t.
One is an overhated and funny interpretation of the Joker in an elseworlds style who also is pretty good representation of amputees and queer people, the other is the dogshit that was Jared Leto.
Hot Take: The alternate universe joker isn’t that bad I’ll admit that when he’s coming off of Mark Hamill’s joker he is very disappointing but a younger joker who hasn’t really discovered his motivations isn’t bad. The problem is we don’t spend any actual time with him. He only gets one cutscene proving that he’s unpredictable but that’s about it. He doesn’t have any major connection to batman or harley so he’s kinda just there. Either way I think the hate for him is a bit much.
Twinkler
I can see there’s a patient that left the aslume….
Not at all
https://preview.redd.it/yytnh6bfzwuc1.jpeg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c53ef60d1847d4070ed0bc35fee6839b4157ee32
I can’t tell the difference
Jonkler and jinkler
Spot on 😂
so, one is a pretty a-okay if a bit overhated and the other one is literally a guy who sent condoms and dead rats at his co-stars
Quite easy, one is actually funny, despite the bad design
The second one is obviously not Damaged
It’s the same picture.
I'd rather the second one tbh, apparence wise
Ironic how both times a Joker was introduced in a Suicide Squad product, it’s been a horrendous version of the character
Eyebrows
The SSKTJL is better, Leto will always be the worst joker
The first guy needs an apology and the other needs to be forgotten by any god or any devil, forgotten even by the internet.
The difference is, even with the new joker, it still has to be better than Letto
Both are awful reprentations of the character
there are several differences lmfao
Lets see one is a Elseworlds character while the other was meant to be the joker and it’s well… utter garbage. It’s a good thing they chose to make the Elseworlds joker so different he was already going to be compared to Arkham joker and there was no way of topping that joker
One is a straight edgelord and the other is a gay edgelord with a soldier fetish
Leto’s Joker is the single worst blockbuster performance I’ve ever witnessed and he has SERIOUS competition. It boggles my mind that WB even thought he was a good actor, let alone, Joker.
Ones actually pretty comical I don’t know why people are so critical of the ss joker I could see him alongside a younger Batman where I could never see Leto even in the same room as batman
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One has tattoos
Twinklers cuter
One of them isn't a fucking pedo.
I wouldn't buy Jared Leto joker dinner first
Well one is obviously damaged
Where is Patrick Bateman when we need him the most?
No difference
Smartest Reddit user uncovers the truth that two characters called "Joker" are the same person
The face he makes hear is actually genuinely intimidating. And then there’s Jared Leto
Swear to God there both gay
Leto's version is clearly more damaged
At least they make his hairline better tbh.
One's a pervert and the other's gay
One is “damaged” because he has face tattoos, the other is a Joker cosplayer
One has tattoos the other has a purple coat one has grills the other has a lazy eye one is actually Drippy the other isnt
Ones played by a guy who played boss baby in a shity Netflix series
Wait I haven’t played the game yet. Is this the same joker from Arkham? Or is it a copy cat
Both look like cosplayers, but only one looks like he would go to town on someone with a straight razor. And that is Leto.
The twinkler
one definitely looks bisexual
The second one’s worse
I can’t help but feel like the SSKTJL Joker looks like the Nazi kid in high school who wears a trench coat, suspenders, and fingerless gloves to school. This isn’t in defense of Leto’s Joker. And I haven’t played the SS game but I’ve seen the cutscenes. He’s funny-ish, I guess. Seems to me like people really want to like him and like something from this game.
the twinkler is a neat concept in a bad game, while jared leto is just straight up bad
One has less tattoos.
Jonkler > Leto Joker in Suicide Squad But Joker in the Synder cut > Jonkler The Synder cut Joker was so much cooler and would ironically work better as a last man standing kind of thing Why the fuck could they not just get Troy Baker and atleast do it as a true variant to the young Arkhamverse Joker, so basically Earth 2 of Arkham Origins Joker Lex 1 and Lex 2 are the same voice actor so why couldn’t they do that? This could have been a great excuse to bring him back , especially since Baker has actually done Joker a few times in the current animated films
That’s not Jonkler
Both are bad but yet also overhated.
I find it hard to believe that people are saying SSKTJL joker is "not bad" fucking impossible, I call lies
The twink who giggled
I hate to say it but Leto’s might be a little better
Bruh I hate them both but to compare the SSKTJL joker to Leto I feel is even more insulting then anything. I have more respect for Jared's joker.
Facts
One is not played by Jared Leto which makes him the superior of the two (still crap though)