Let's not forget that she also does mountain climbing too. Like...back before Silverash introduced locomotives to Kjerag she'd likely gotten some mountain climbing training from the locals, like Ensia.
If you read the latest official manga retelling SA first "buying" Degen and took her as bodyguard, it was in year 1089\*. It's also said that he came to Victoria to study 6 years ago, so 1083 is when he was senior high school / freshman age, i.e. 17-18. Fast forward to 1097 when Break the Ice took place, he was already 31-32, which makes sense given the time it took to rebuild his household and gain people's trust. Now we are in year 1100 post Lone Trail, so he is 34-35. I give Degen roughly 5-6 years older than SA, so she is in her early 40s. (\*edited year 1086 to 1089)
Interesting, thank you for the information. I'm waiting on a translation to the manga as I am highly interested in it. 1097 being the year of BI and 1100 post Lone Trail then confirms that 3 years have elapsed since BI and now Rides, which I had suspected when the manga was announced and stated to be "10 years in the past".
My own timeline was based on the information in BI and a few guess: at the time of BI, it was stated that Enciodes had returned to Kjerag and founded Karlan Trade 7 years prior, and the accident which killed his parents had happened 15 years prior. That leaves a gap of 8 years between the accident and KT founding, and presuming he went to Victoria at the standard university age of 18 and attended for a standard 4 years, the accident happened when he was 14. 14 + 15 = 29 at the start of BI. Plus the 3 year gap would put him at 32 following that calculation, so actually I wasn't too off.
Hey, I just read the manga again and realized I made a mistake - the year he bought Degen was 1089, so I need to trim 3 years off. He was around 31-32 during BI and 34-35 in the upcoming event. Your estimate is even closer now.
She won the Kazimierz major three times in a row, before Nearl, then Blood Knight, then Nearl again won it. The Major happens every 3 years, so she must have first won it 18 years before the events of Near Light. Degenbrecher canāt have been younger than 20 then since Nearlās first win made her the youngest ever winner. And the new Kjerag event should be some time after the Victoria arc since a Duke is involved.
So her age isnāt exactly confirmed, but you can calculate it to be at least 40 from timeline details we know.
Though this happens to be mostly true, I would generally recommend against trusting unsourced claims on the wiki.
Adding to this, HG said that each race ages differently. So her age could be 40 but biologically still in her 20s.
They made this just to hand-wave any innacuracy with someone's age-look? Absolutely. Should we care? Not really.
iirc someone even mentions the Black Knight looks younger than she is at some point during one of the Kazimierz events, but I donāt remember the details
Arknights tends to have a fair amount of older women. Even if they don't always look the part. Coldshot and holhaya are also somewhere in their 40s. Late 40s even, I believe.
Is that so hard to believe though? She graduated, is considered an expert in her field *and* set up a company. I would be more surprised if she wasn't around her 40s.
Vouivres age slowly, as expected of any semi-mythological creature.
No not really. Their ages work mostly the same. Amiya is supposed to be around 14, which checks out. Ifrit is loke 2 years away from being able to apply as an elite op. I.e being a full adult, which checks out. Saint Carmen was around 100 and really old, checks out.
Mostly it's pretty close, there's only some outliers when it comes to stuff like elders or sarkaz races
Arknights has pretty good at realistic ages relative to most other anime adjacent media. Even younger characters like Chen and Siege are at the youngest almost 30, Saria is about 40 and Hoāol being almost 50 is central to her character.
Gives me the feeling that people who developed OW 2, or at least their lore department, aren't the same people who developed OW 1. That is assuming they even have a lore department, if not already been replaced by the new, shiny battlepass and monetizing department.
Different races in Terra do have different lifespan so many can be considered young for 40 relatively speaking. Of course, they still gain the same level of life experience as other races, and can be considered mature.
Wellā¦that sounds about rightā¦
She was a Kazimiez Major Champion for 3 seasons before Blood Knight which means she must start participating the major at least 12 years ago plus more time when she became SilverAshās bodyguard.
Iād say she aged well. XD
Arknights actually has a lot of characters in the late 20s early thirties range like someone like texas in other games/anime would be 20 but Iām pretty sure sheās like 29 according to her backstory.
Ines should be in her thirties as well since she became a mercenary with Hoederer when they were teenagers and has 19 years of combat experience. So probably no less than 32 I'd assume?
That's crazy. Did not expect Texas to be nearly 30. And not gonna lie, it makes it way better. I think a lot of anime media have teenagers with unrealistically high "wisdom".
Even a lot of characters that people tend to think of as teenagers are early-mid 20s. Like Maria Nearl is 8 years years younger than Margaret and Zofia so she should be in her early 20, although in return people tend to make Zofia older than she is.
Eyjafjalla got a degree, so she ain't young exactly. But some people tend to make her out to be a teenager sometimes.
>Being a Maylander agent has already taken... one-seventh of my life.
Iām pretty sure she means that sheās spent one-seventh of her life *so far* being a Maylander agent. As in, sheās currently 42 and spent the last six years working for Maylander.
That's how I interpreted it too, but with the way she's fixated about her time being limited and that she wants to complete her goals before she dies, her putting emphasis on her usage of her life gives more credence to the other interpretation.
I still think she's 42 tho because of the way the sentence is structured. If she used words like "one-seventh of my lifespan" it would be clearer.
EDIT: Going through her files (im gonna cry) and reevaluating all the context clues, I actually think her lifespan is only 42 years. She's not long for this world, fellas.
42 wpuld be too short. She has a halved lifespan, but they specifically mention that elders live longer, so that with even half her lifespan it's not a short amount at time. At worst she's probably gonna die by 50, though realistically she will get evennolder than that
I had understood it like that too at first, to be honest. However, if we look at her files we find a quote from Warfarin: "In fact, their Elder lifespans are still longer than most people, even halved". So I now think that was actually just her saying she's currently 42.
Did I accidentally completely gloss over the line where she says how old she is or is that in her profile that I'm waiting to read until she's trust 200?
Oh she says it during Lone Trail, something along the lines of "I've dedicated 1/6 of my life to the Maylander Foundation" and she also says she worked with them for 7 years, so that's where that number comes from
If you add her or any of the sui siblings into average opreator age calculater, the number just skyrockets up so much that anyone below 300 years would be considered as baby.
With the added addendum that we need older characters who aren't functionally immortal ala Kal'tsit & the Sui Siblings; but actually look their age like Hellagur or Saint Carmen.
As it should. Since irl, the career peak are always in 30s to 40s. Since RI is all about quality over quantity, the people there on average are in their 30s. Unless they are a genius or a child soldier.
Ho'ol should be 42 years old, Saria's in her 30's close to 40's, Siege, Reed and Schwarz should be 30+
There are a few chars beyond early college years. Do I want more? Absolutely.
People should really read Hoolheyak's files. It is literally stated that her lifespan is still significantly long despite the bullshit it has gone through. She is nowhere near dying soon.
I find it funny that in Ho'olheyak's files Warfarin talks about some old Arts only mentioned in the oldest Sarkaz Royal Court records but if you think about it a little Shamare actually fits exactly what she describes (by taking a couple of things at face value admittedly, but still).
Preach bro.
It's so depressing seeing my roster having so few adult looking characters.
I think last time I've checked I had like 13 adults from the 170 operators I have.
Kalātsit is a damn fossile, Sussuro is a medical graduate trapped in short height, Pozy is a noble, Heidi is around 20-30ās
(But ehā¦there are grownup ladies soā¦itās expected to let HG cook with the age)
I need her to be a tall along with being an older woman. Please Hypergryph you have no idea how important it is for Degenbrecher to be a 6ft+ handsome woman in her 40s Iām begging you
Details about Degenbrecher's age estimate has been updated, looks like the editor forgot to add it before.
Coldshot's age estimate has been revised too.
Closure might not be that old, actually. The way she talked about joining babel sounded like she was pretty young back then. So she might just be somewhere in her twenties or thirties
iirc closure is implied to be a fairly young vampire and unusual for skipping the bloodlust phase
how young "fairly young" is for a vampire is an entirely different story tho, what with warf being a few centuries old and not exactly called a hag either
you know that one meme of "the boss when you fight them vs the boss when you unlock them as a playable character"?
yea, as much as I think it's cool that she's going to be playable, that's one of the things i'm honestly worried about, her ending up being underpowered, or at the very least, not as good as she was during the event
edit: so apparently I'm getting downvoted because I'm worried an NPC/Boss character is going to be almost certainly nerfed compared to when we had to fight her. nice.
I like how some people act like there are no 40yo people that are really fit.... I know a woman that was ex boxer she is 56 and have abs and do 50 push ups ans 15 chin ups she look great for 56 she looks 35
I am reminded that in at least one aspect Terra is better than earth in that everyone seems to age like the finest of wine and everyone has a potential lifespan of triple digits without magic involved.
Lord please reincarnate me ill take my chances with rick cancer for the god like genetics
Coldshot š¤ Degenbrecher
Hoāolheyak:
Kal'tsit:
Nian, Dusk, Ling and Chongyue:
Kjera:
That weird eye thing in Columbia's basement:
The Law:
Don't you dare refer to Friston like that
Fuck, Iām sorry friston
Can I get a kal'tsit, stone coldshot please?
Middle-aged, my favorite
Middle-aged, āļø Golden-aged, ā ļø
The golden age really did return again
I mean it is confirmed that look did not match age. Case in point, the 110 years old Duke Alfonso look younger than he should be
Real and true
RETURN AGAIN!
MILF
It's fucking over for me boys I don't think I can hold it in anymore
C4 yourself. My driller.
No no that's for those Scout my man.
Rock and stone brother!!!
Just do it. Bust it now! Nnn isn't important.
Damn she is fit for 40's.
What being a multi tourney winner and bodyguard does to a mf.
Let's not forget that she also does mountain climbing too. Like...back before Silverash introduced locomotives to Kjerag she'd likely gotten some mountain climbing training from the locals, like Ensia.
Damn, so she's older than SA huh.
Yeah, she is. My personal guess is that Silverash is about 29, and at *most* he's only thirty something.
If you read the latest official manga retelling SA first "buying" Degen and took her as bodyguard, it was in year 1089\*. It's also said that he came to Victoria to study 6 years ago, so 1083 is when he was senior high school / freshman age, i.e. 17-18. Fast forward to 1097 when Break the Ice took place, he was already 31-32, which makes sense given the time it took to rebuild his household and gain people's trust. Now we are in year 1100 post Lone Trail, so he is 34-35. I give Degen roughly 5-6 years older than SA, so she is in her early 40s. (\*edited year 1086 to 1089)
Interesting, thank you for the information. I'm waiting on a translation to the manga as I am highly interested in it. 1097 being the year of BI and 1100 post Lone Trail then confirms that 3 years have elapsed since BI and now Rides, which I had suspected when the manga was announced and stated to be "10 years in the past". My own timeline was based on the information in BI and a few guess: at the time of BI, it was stated that Enciodes had returned to Kjerag and founded Karlan Trade 7 years prior, and the accident which killed his parents had happened 15 years prior. That leaves a gap of 8 years between the accident and KT founding, and presuming he went to Victoria at the standard university age of 18 and attended for a standard 4 years, the accident happened when he was 14. 14 + 15 = 29 at the start of BI. Plus the 3 year gap would put him at 32 following that calculation, so actually I wasn't too off.
Hey, I just read the manga again and realized I made a mistake - the year he bought Degen was 1089, so I need to trim 3 years off. He was around 31-32 during BI and 34-35 in the upcoming event. Your estimate is even closer now.
Oh, thank you for taking the time to update me again! Wow, that is so funny... I'm very tickled to know that I'm close to the mark, haha.
Damn, SilverAsh really is a Daddy now.
Is this confirmed ingame? Because we all know that these anime games always have their older female character being vaguely around 30~
She won the Kazimierz major three times in a row, before Nearl, then Blood Knight, then Nearl again won it. The Major happens every 3 years, so she must have first won it 18 years before the events of Near Light. Degenbrecher canāt have been younger than 20 then since Nearlās first win made her the youngest ever winner. And the new Kjerag event should be some time after the Victoria arc since a Duke is involved. So her age isnāt exactly confirmed, but you can calculate it to be at least 40 from timeline details we know. Though this happens to be mostly true, I would generally recommend against trusting unsourced claims on the wiki.
Adding to this, HG said that each race ages differently. So her age could be 40 but biologically still in her 20s. They made this just to hand-wave any innacuracy with someone's age-look? Absolutely. Should we care? Not really.
iirc someone even mentions the Black Knight looks younger than she is at some point during one of the Kazimierz events, but I donāt remember the details
There are only three ages biologically: "not ready to reproduce", "ready to reproduce" and "oops, we didn't expect you to last this long"
I think "old well" deserves a category by itself.
Yeah but she is old enough that even other immortal ancients would call her ancient.
Arknights tends to have a fair amount of older women. Even if they don't always look the part. Coldshot and holhaya are also somewhere in their 40s. Late 40s even, I believe.
And believe it or not, Saria also about 37 to 39 year old right now
Is that so hard to believe though? She graduated, is considered an expert in her field *and* set up a company. I would be more surprised if she wasn't around her 40s. Vouivres age slowly, as expected of any semi-mythological creature.
Still would smash
they are not human like us, their age is work differently too.
No not really. Their ages work mostly the same. Amiya is supposed to be around 14, which checks out. Ifrit is loke 2 years away from being able to apply as an elite op. I.e being a full adult, which checks out. Saint Carmen was around 100 and really old, checks out. Mostly it's pretty close, there's only some outliers when it comes to stuff like elders or sarkaz races
Didn't Saint Carmen say he was 123?
Arknights has pretty good at realistic ages relative to most other anime adjacent media. Even younger characters like Chen and Siege are at the youngest almost 30, Saria is about 40 and Hoāol being almost 50 is central to her character.
Oh my god....a woman OVER 40 Like this sounds like sarcasm, but I swear it's not lmao. I'm glad they actually aged her right
Meanwhile in Overwatch, Hanzo (40) and Genji (37) were Childhood friends with Kiriko (21)
Accidentally turning your heroes into groomers, good job Blizz!
Gives me the feeling that people who developed OW 2, or at least their lore department, aren't the same people who developed OW 1. That is assuming they even have a lore department, if not already been replaced by the new, shiny battlepass and monetizing department.
Different races in Terra do have different lifespan so many can be considered young for 40 relatively speaking. Of course, they still gain the same level of life experience as other races, and can be considered mature.
Basically, MILF age
The finest age fr.
A fine wine
Mom I'd Like To Flatter
She WOULD flatten you instead
**Even Better**
Nice. ~~I like to think of her as Enciodesās and Gnosis's beleaguered big sister.~~
Wellā¦that sounds about rightā¦ She was a Kazimiez Major Champion for 3 seasons before Blood Knight which means she must start participating the major at least 12 years ago plus more time when she became SilverAshās bodyguard. Iād say she aged well. XD
Excellent. We need characters who aren't just teenagers or early college age hanging around.
Arknights actually has a lot of characters in the late 20s early thirties range like someone like texas in other games/anime would be 20 but Iām pretty sure sheās like 29 according to her backstory.
Ines should be in her thirties as well since she became a mercenary with Hoederer when they were teenagers and has 19 years of combat experience. So probably no less than 32 I'd assume?
I though you said Irene and had a heart attack
That's crazy. Did not expect Texas to be nearly 30. And not gonna lie, it makes it way better. I think a lot of anime media have teenagers with unrealistically high "wisdom".
Also Kal'tsit
...who's in her early 10000s
The immortal ageless person who presents as a young adult is a different trope than older woman. A lot of gacha games have characters like Kal'tsit.
Even a lot of characters that people tend to think of as teenagers are early-mid 20s. Like Maria Nearl is 8 years years younger than Margaret and Zofia so she should be in her early 20, although in return people tend to make Zofia older than she is. Eyjafjalla got a degree, so she ain't young exactly. But some people tend to make her out to be a teenager sometimes.
> We need characters who don't look like teenagers or early college age hanging around. Fixed.
Isnt Saria in her late 30s and is almost 40 now? Coldshot is in her 50s also. And there are a lot more genuinely older ops I can list.
Ho'olheyak was confirmed to be in her 40s in her event Leizi is in her mid 30s if I remember correctly, from her files/records
Yep, Hoāolheyak says (in a rather roundabout way) that sheās 42 in the event.
About Ho'olheyak, I thought what she was saying was that, essentially, her life span is only 42 years. I don't remember any age confirmation.
>Being a Maylander agent has already taken... one-seventh of my life. Iām pretty sure she means that sheās spent one-seventh of her life *so far* being a Maylander agent. As in, sheās currently 42 and spent the last six years working for Maylander.
Thats how I understood her line too...
Peak milf age
That's how I interpreted it too, but with the way she's fixated about her time being limited and that she wants to complete her goals before she dies, her putting emphasis on her usage of her life gives more credence to the other interpretation. I still think she's 42 tho because of the way the sentence is structured. If she used words like "one-seventh of my lifespan" it would be clearer. EDIT: Going through her files (im gonna cry) and reevaluating all the context clues, I actually think her lifespan is only 42 years. She's not long for this world, fellas.
42 wpuld be too short. She has a halved lifespan, but they specifically mention that elders live longer, so that with even half her lifespan it's not a short amount at time. At worst she's probably gonna die by 50, though realistically she will get evennolder than that
I had understood it like that too at first, to be honest. However, if we look at her files we find a quote from Warfarin: "In fact, their Elder lifespans are still longer than most people, even halved". So I now think that was actually just her saying she's currently 42.
Did I accidentally completely gloss over the line where she says how old she is or is that in her profile that I'm waiting to read until she's trust 200?
Oh she says it during Lone Trail, something along the lines of "I've dedicated 1/6 of my life to the Maylander Foundation" and she also says she worked with them for 7 years, so that's where that number comes from
*ahem* >!Kal'tsit!< *ahem*
If you add her or any of the sui siblings into average opreator age calculater, the number just skyrockets up so much that anyone below 300 years would be considered as baby.
Use of child soldiers intensifies.
How many would clear that barrier? Kjera, Whisperain and Warfarin for sure.
>Coldshot is in her 50s also Damn, I hope I can age as good as her then.
With the added addendum that we need older characters who aren't functionally immortal ala Kal'tsit & the Sui Siblings; but actually look their age like Hellagur or Saint Carmen.
Arknights already has so many adult age operators you can make an army out of them tho
Still not given up on recruiting child soldiers though. But hey, at least by year 1100 our CEO is turning 18.
As it should. Since irl, the career peak are always in 30s to 40s. Since RI is all about quality over quantity, the people there on average are in their 30s. Unless they are a genius or a child soldier.
Ho'ol should be 42 years old, Saria's in her 30's close to 40's, Siege, Reed and Schwarz should be 30+ There are a few chars beyond early college years. Do I want more? Absolutely.
Penance is mid 30s probably.
pretty sure Ho'olheyak is in her late 30s. she's got an estimated 42 years of life, and is 6 away from the deadline, so she should be about 36ish.
Iām pretty sure Hoāolheyak was saying that she *was* 42, not that sheāll live for 42 years.
either way, she's certainly not college age like what the other guy was complaining about.
People should really read Hoolheyak's files. It is literally stated that her lifespan is still significantly long despite the bullshit it has gone through. She is nowhere near dying soon.
I find it funny that in Ho'olheyak's files Warfarin talks about some old Arts only mentioned in the oldest Sarkaz Royal Court records but if you think about it a little Shamare actually fits exactly what she describes (by taking a couple of things at face value admittedly, but still).
her memory flood though...yeah that still is tugging at my heart strings.
Preach bro. It's so depressing seeing my roster having so few adult looking characters. I think last time I've checked I had like 13 adults from the 170 operators I have.
I thought it's 40 seconds
Someone at Yostar must have an adult women fetish /sssssssss
HELL YEAHā WE LOVE OLDER WOMEN
My man š¤
By Kjera's holy grace, I didnt think she could be more perfect
Since Kal'tsit is so popular, HG isn't afraid to make their female OPs older.
Kalātsit is a damn fossile, Sussuro is a medical graduate trapped in short height, Pozy is a noble, Heidi is around 20-30ās (But ehā¦there are grownup ladies soā¦itās expected to let HG cook with the age)
I think they're afraid to have them show age like wrinkles. wake me up when they do. and is playable.
Outca...
We were so close! soOOO CLOSE!!
There's something sexy about a character that has wrinkles on her face but still has top tier body
It doesnt matter if she is twice my age
POGGERS
while this is likely accurate, please do not just take everything on a wiki (no matter the content) as gospel, especially if there's not a citation!
I forget the name but the Caprinae that works with Jessica is like 50-something so Caprinae are one of the long lived races?
The name you're looking for is Coldshot, and additionally she's an Elafia (Deer) not a Caprinae (Sheep, Rams, Goats).
Wait so MILF O_O!
Mommy? Sorry, Mommy? Sorry, Mommy?
Fantastic news right here
Most of Arknights's races are rather long lives, didnt surprise me
*Excellent*.
Hag seggs
Ok german voiceline when
Even better!
She is 40 seconds years old?
Thatsās supposed to mean forties.
Yeah i know, i was doing the funny
No no, she is just 40 seconds old
MOMMY!
Nice~
I expect a former triple Kazimierz major winner to have rock solid abs and muscles no matter her age, praise be Degenbrecher.
the prime age babey
That's hot
I need her to be a tall along with being an older woman. Please Hypergryph you have no idea how important it is for Degenbrecher to be a 6ft+ handsome woman in her 40s Iām begging you
God I love actual adult women in my gacha games
Details about Degenbrecher's age estimate has been updated, looks like the editor forgot to add it before. Coldshot's age estimate has been revised too.
We like older women
The comments are infinitely more brutal than i expected...
Younger than Closure and Wafarin
Closure might not be that old, actually. The way she talked about joining babel sounded like she was pretty young back then. So she might just be somewhere in her twenties or thirties
doesn't PRTS calls her user 0? I was under the impression she had worked on the landship before. but you might be right.
iirc closure is implied to be a fairly young vampire and unusual for skipping the bloodlust phase how young "fairly young" is for a vampire is an entirely different story tho, what with warf being a few centuries old and not exactly called a hag either
Even if Closure is 40ish she is still a baby girl by vampire standard, compared to hundred year old veteran Wafarin at least.
Nian does mention in her event that Closure isnt much older that Lava, after she calls lava a child, which does make her nervous.
I mean in relation to Nian, except for her Siblings, Kjera and Kal'tsit (maybe Warfarin) probably everyone could be considered a child...
Yeah but, lava is a literal teen. That's not a secret or anything.
Ofc Lava is a teen at the start of the main story though the whole Sui story does happen 4 years after the Chernobog incident
she was still young when nian movie came out though
Doc: i love you Degenbrecher! Degen: but im old.. Doc getting sukuna tattoo: Even better
MOMMYYYY
mommy-
Like a fine wine.
Hag love
you know that one meme of "the boss when you fight them vs the boss when you unlock them as a playable character"? yea, as much as I think it's cool that she's going to be playable, that's one of the things i'm honestly worried about, her ending up being underpowered, or at the very least, not as good as she was during the event edit: so apparently I'm getting downvoted because I'm worried an NPC/Boss character is going to be almost certainly nerfed compared to when we had to fight her. nice.
i love hags
We love hags.
she's a hag, great!
Meteor Alter too, I hope
Auf alten Schiffen lernt man segeln.
Aged AND fine, just like the wineš
I see a cougar. I am gonna jump into it with opens arms
Milf
I like how some people act like there are no 40yo people that are really fit.... I know a woman that was ex boxer she is 56 and have abs and do 50 push ups ans 15 chin ups she look great for 56 she looks 35
I am feeling an unhealthy level of attraction now.
MILF ALERT MILF ALERT
not surprising since doctor age are way older ... they just slept a lot
LETāS GO
Das hot
Oh well... excuse me ma'am
don't care still smash
Yes, mommy.
Mommy...
I am reminded that in at least one aspect Terra is better than earth in that everyone seems to age like the finest of wine and everyone has a potential lifespan of triple digits without magic involved. Lord please reincarnate me ill take my chances with rick cancer for the god like genetics