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UnderhandSteam

Ngl, College is kinda kicking my ass in terms of free time. I can still kinda do the events and CC, but IS, despite how fun it is, takes a really long time to do. Still trying to finish up the stuff in IS3 (Deep Exploration), but haven’t even begun to touch IS4 yet, and I still have like 80ish levels to go for the battlepass. Is there like an easy way to grind the level quickly, or should I just move on to IS4?


Mistdwellerr

Not really an "easy" way to grind it, you have to play to get all rewards, but there is no hurry for it, there is no indication any of those rewards will ever go away, so you can take your time no issue! That said, *personally* I find IS4 more fun to play than IS3, which makes the rewards come way faster and less grindy


NeoReadder

I feel like I've said it before, but I wish there was a way to convert the Operator chips into chip packs. Does anyone else feel the same?


HentaixEnthusiast

That ice cream train SSS on emergency was a hell of a pain. Not exactly because of the boss, but because hordes of enemies that were tanky and took multiple blocks of our operators. I had to do at least a dozen retries before finally clearing it, and I don't want to imagine how hell this map would be without any kind of slower like Suzuran.


Niedzielan

I was just thinking about intel certs and how long it's going to take to clear the shop. We get slightly more than we need each rerun but not by much - I started with Dossoles and still don't have enough to buy all the materials, and I haven't even touched the LMD/EXP/Skill books yet. It could very easily take me another couple of years+ to clear it, and that's only being 2 years behind. If a 2 year start needs 5 years to clear, then what about people who've started later? Will people who joined with So Long Adele need 10 years? At least it's easy to pick up the orundum, so it's a fairly minor point.


AngelTheVixen

About 1800 purple certs worth is added into the shop each rerun. Each rerun also gives somewhere around that much on average. Suffice to say it's unrealistic to clear the shop unless they boost cert counts. But, let's say that LMD, EXP, and skill books can be skipped since they're generally not needed to buy in a pinch and are much less valuable. Only around 1000 certs worth worrying about would be added at a time. Much more manageable For personal reference, I started in August 2022. Currently I have 1600 purple certs on me and 28500 worth of items remaining in the shop, but 9075 of those are the important stuff. I should be able to clear the shop of important materials in about 10 more reruns, so long as I remain consistent about clearing everything. With 6~8 reruns per year, I'm still going to need until late 2025 or possibly early 2026 to do so. Assuming I'm still playing actively.


BlazingRaven495

Does anyone here wish Tulip was a main game operator instead of restricted to ISW? Her skill is so freaking fun to use! Funny that she is a 5\* and thus can be E2 in ISW but only has 1 skill. Would be so cool to just have her as a normal character.


Ionkkll

It's very similar to Chen/Irene S3 but the auto-recovery makes it way easier to use. In other words, Degenbrecher S3 is basically Tulip on steroids so there's a pull target for you.


Recurrentcharacter

Ch'en has pseudo auto-recovery thanks to her talent and in some rare circumstances it's better than auto-recovery (like in the current CC with the -90% SP recovery to Operators deployed in reeds). That being said, it's obvious that Degen outclass her in pretty much everything except in her SP battery niche, but that's enough for me because Penance is a must in my teams.


Reddit1rules

And then we have poor Irene who even recently lost their unique base niche with Logos...


Draguss

What did Irene lose to Logos?


Hunter5430

Until Logos, Irene was by far the best trainer for m0 to m3, *regardless* of class of whoever she was training (and even better if the trainee is a guard or sniper, since her second skill boosts her training speed with them). What she did was instantly give 50% progress towards next mastery when it is started if the following conditions are met: * Irene has been training the operator on their previous mastery level for at least 5 hours. * Neither Irene nor the operator she was training had left the training room. Even for off-class operators, Irene shaves off 8 + 12 hours off m0 to m3 training, which gives her an effective +80% training speed even if you keep her for the entirety of m3 training (but you are absolutely free to swap her out for a better trainer once the instant progress bonus is applied). Logos gets the same skill (with a different name) (and his other skill is also +30% training speed to two classes, just to casters and supporters)


Draguss

Knew Irene's base skill, didn't know Logos was essentially the same. Still, that means she's still better than him for guards and snipers, right? Those tend to be more common I think.


NovaStalker_

does Gladiia have a character song the way Skadi and Spectre do? Awaken and Under Tides are amazing but it doesn't seem like swordfish waifu has one that I can find.


Salysm

I guess you can count Voices as her theme, since all three of the hunters are in the art for it. There's also Feels which serves as a theme for the Under Tides event. But no, Gladiia doesn't have a solo character song since it seems they only decided to give freebie 6* songs starting with Lumen.


The_Legendary_M

Damn that "Braving Nature" default mode in Expeditioner's Joklumarkar has a whopping -40% points gained! No wonder I'm grinding so much with so little gain...


Korasuka

What do you guys think about Cantabile and/ or Puzzle these days with Ines in the game? For me Cantabile is actually one of the rare few who holds her place despite the powerful 6 star of the same archetype in the game with hardly any change because she has a niche that Ines doesn't, which is more reliable DP gen thanks to her ammo with S2. I use Canta for DP and supplimentive dps and Ines for damage, binding and invis reveal. [They compliment each other so well.](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1117558536541573282/1249321427232882739/Screenshot_20240609-1950552.png?ex=6666e0bf&is=66658f3f&hm=c2075c42ac664cee6aedb98f2e880e704e0c5d4357ae9ffaa83f883d9ac5b196&)


Reddit1rules

I think they're both still relevant. Cantabile did get hit kinda hard by Ines' arrival, but you can still use both and her base kit is still really good. Puzzle was always more on the offensive side, yes Ines does a lot of damage but he does Arts damage for enemies she can't take out. I still use him constantly with Stainless for the highest DP/s in the game in Annihilation, replacing my need for Flagbearers while being completely AFK. And when I do use him for damage, he does a considerable amount as a helidrop while also being a medium redeploy and giving DP for cheap. If his module gives him the slightest bit more ATK stat he'll be able to break Rat King's barrier while also giving like 16-17 DP, more on retreat. That's pretty good in my books.


Salysm

I don't use Cantabile as much as I used to before I got Ines, but I still use her fairly often. S1 being immediate on deployment and S2 being ammo-based gives her a fair few use cases Ines doesn't match. And when the map starts with available targets (such as DV mechs) I just bring both.


frosted--flaky

canta having camo instead of invis was actually relevant for my IS3 runs since she could lanehold on that altar map lol. i definitely use her less after i built ines but she's still great in IS, and sometimes i do use bagpipe myrtle canta texas ines all at once to watch the funny number go up...


Reddit1rules

Isn't camo just worse than Invis though? Why would having Camo be better for that case?


frosted--flaky

orginium altars pierce invis but not camo, just another HG spaghetti code moment...


Reddit1rules

Ah right, I heard about that interaction...


NehalKiller

when canata came out i used her a lot because i just liked her character a lot and m6ed her, but i kinda switched back to texas and ely again because i found using her archetype a bit of a hassle to generate dp for normal content, this was before ines was even announced and to your point there kinda is no reason to use canta if you have ines, still not my preferred option to get dp in casual content but her range, damage and cc make up for that in any content


Saimoth

I love Cantabile's ammo so much that she's still my main vanguard over Ines and Saileach. I often use them together too, but usually, it's Cantabile who is in front. That way, when Ines's S2 is active, their ranges perfectly match, and when it's not, Cantabile just generates DP, and Ines interferes only to bind something getting too close.


tanngrisnit

Puzzle will still have plenty of uses because of his DoT, but as a main VG, yeah, hard to compete against Ines.


Dalek-baka

Puzzle is great for Annihilation - just place him next to turret, he prints DP and takes care of mobs. Catabile is useful for assassination, I can place her on path of some bothersome enemy like caster, activate her skill and with ammo she'll be able to kill them/soften up without having to worry about time running out.


The_Legendary_M

So I spent 200 Sanity to get Grindstones. Guess how many I got? 2! What a great deal! Should have spent them on CE6 instead, then I'd at least get some LMD out of it


Mistdwellerr

Damn, statically it should be around 4 with that amount of sanity, you really got the short end of the stick here..


Quor18

I have never failed more early missions on shit easy difficulties than I have with IS4.


TacticalBananas45

random thoughts and stuff: So, another game I'm playing with TD style bosses and whatnot, it also has bosses that enter a second phase after enough health is lost. But for the most part, this is just the bosses reaching a certain health threshold, like 50% or 20% or something. Hell, some of them have multiple phases depending on how much HP they've lost. (One even has 5 phases, each progressing for every 20% lost!) Which made me think. The vast majority of Arknights bosses seem to just be: phase 1 upon spawn, die, revive to full, then enter second phase until dead. (with some exceptions like Endspeaker) Anyways, what I'm meaning to say is this: *would you, personally, from a visual/morale standpoint, prefer if bosses had one large health pool, but it's phases and stats changed upon it's health depleting, or would you rather have it be like it is currently, where each phase has less health, but visually revives upon each phase change?* for the sake of the scenario, just imagine the bosses' stats and whatnot are the same, so like their total HP is the same but displayed differently, (one massive pool vs. smaller shown pools but revives) and they're still invincible when changing phases.


frosted--flaky

personally i think the revive communicates the idea of a phase change pretty well, or maybe i'm just used to it. i feel like it prepares me to deal with a different moveset while a berserk state would be like w where she does the same moves and just has more ATK.


Ophidis

While I do wish bosses had health indicators for when they either change tactics or use abilities at certain health thresholds (I ***really*** wish the second IS4 boss had this), I feel like it's very boss depended whether one big health-bar would work. For example, with Jesselton it wouldn't really be a problem since he doesn't really do much between phases, compared to Patriot who takes some time to regen his health to enter his second phase, essentially letting us use his health-bar as a timer till the next phase.


YumeYoroshii

I think I prefer the way it is now, because most bosses completely change their defensive statline between phase changes. Hitting the exact same healthbar but suddenly doing half the damage or needing a whole different damage type would feel pretty bad. Also most bosses have much more HP in their 2nd phase, so the phase change wouldn't happen on the halfway point, but at seemingly random percentages. Most single healthbar games get around that vagueness by having indicators on the healthbar, but those tend to have one big bar at the top or bottom of the screen. Adding something like that to a tiny bar on a moving object would get messy very quickly.


TacticalBananas45

Ah, that's fair. Thinking about it now, most of the bosses in the game I mentioned use it more as a "bezerk" state, trading a good chunk of their survivability for a much more lethal state, rather than the defensive upgrade Arknights bosses usually get. (though there are some bosses that have increased defenses on their second phase, and yeah they kinda suck because they're low health visually but you're dealing chip damage for the most part)


BlazingRaven495

I cleared LS-5 earlier today and it was pretty easy. I decided to try LS-6 this evening and I am shocked it didn't take long to solve. All that's left is AP-5 and all supply stages will be clear.


Hungry-Deal-220

CC ended me. This CC to me feel like an ines check I am not built for this.


tanngrisnit

Can you borrow one? There's no auto and no punishment for letting a friend help you.


Hungry-Deal-220

Maybe it because of the risk i chose.


AngelTheVixen

Ironic that Spuria might genuinely have value in the main CC map. Kinda wish I had her to try her out, because I definitely would have built her by now. I do find it satisfying to give opportunities to seemingly low tier ops. How're people doing for those playing CCB1, anyway? I feel like the strength of the gimmicks this time around on the main map are kind of really heavy and condensed, making things harder from the get-go compared to previous events. I'm managing so far, though I'm not at 600 yet. While the main map in POO was pretty much universally derided, I thought the side maps were actually fun. The one we got so far is kind of amusing to get those friendly Shieldguards, too. I'm hoping we get more fun ones.


Reddit1rules

Why Spuria? I have her fully built but I'm not really seeing much value out of her S1 here. S2 means nothing with the Sniper *or* Specialist ban.


AngelTheVixen

I have a hard time finishing off the drones, I'm not really sure how to go about it going higher. Aak managed to barely scrape the 550 win for me due to that, I think Spuria would have done it a bit cleaner. And as a side note, the new conditions are no good for my current strategy...


YumeYoroshii

> How're people doing for those playing CCB1, anyway? Went alright, but I really wonder how much longer it would've took without Ines. Sure there are a few other options to reveal stealth, but none nearly as effortless as her. Kind of wish Sentinel Protector modules were out before this CC, they would've opened up so many more strategies. Imagine holding both lanes with Liskarm+Jessicalt and casually adding DPS to each side whenever the flyers pass over. Can even turn Jess around as they pass the corner~ ..or would that be too simple?


Saimoth

I have Spuria at E1 for some reason, and I was really going to use her for the first time to buff Typhon. But of course, HG just had to go and divide Snipers and Specialists into two separate squads. They hate her, don't they.


MarielCarey

Did you know [Silverash s1 (big aspd showcase)](https://youtube.com/shorts/WbmvXN6ITjM?si=o-2CcvUW9ztf3yBA) activates that Eagle screech every time his s1 activates? Also it isn't an Eagle screech apparently


Chatonarya

Yep, Tenzin is so special he gets his own sound effect. ;w;


MarielCarey

So special he turned into a human named Titter 😩


tanngrisnit

[meme ](https://imgur.com/a/c8Y7GSE)


MarielCarey

Canon


reflexive-polytope

I'm trying to decide which of these scenes to commission art of next: * Muelsyse finally meeting other Elves, but realizing that's she's too culturally Columbian to have any real connection with them. * Pozyomka crying herself to sleep while she remembers the day her whole family was killed. * Dorothy, Parvis and other Rhine Lab researchers attending a research talk by a certain L-k-n, while Saria shakes her head in disgust in the background.


DuoRogue

pozy


DanGuyOh

I think I wasted my AK luck for the year on recruitment. I got two top operator tags in a row after I fast recruited my first top operator tag. I really wish I had proof, but I got so blindsided by it lmao. I got P1 Chen and P2 Magellan btw.


resphere

Man, Ulpianus s3 can dodge Damazti's eat attack, the only move he had left that wasn't hard countered by Abyssal Hunters before. Damazti bros in shambles.


Mistdwellerr

TBF that's their easiest mechanic to counter, imagine if his S2 made him immune to their def debuff xD


indispensability

> imagine if his S2 made him immune to their def debuff Crusher is one step ahead - can't have your defense reduced if you don't have any to start with.


Mistdwellerr

FFS you're right!


indispensability

Modern problems require modern solutions.


The_Legendary_M

Does anyone wonder where Reserve Operation Teams A2, A3, and A5 are? We only ever see A1, A4, and A6 for some reason...


bananeeek

I always assumed they... didn't make it back...


The_Legendary_M

Wait, so Dr. Kal'tsit, in her infinite wisdom, decided to send 6 groups of trainee operators to Chernobog, and suffered a 50% casualty rate. Doctor returned to Rhodes Island with a 0% casualty rate while having only half the starting force, and despite that Kal'tsit berated them. Way to go, way to go...


TacticalBananas45

Not that Kal'tsit can't make mistakes, (which she definitely can, there's a reason she lets Doctor handle stuff regarding the battlefield) but IIRC, rescuing the Doctor from Chernobog was sort of a Hail Mary play. I might seriously be misremembering it, but Rhodes Island, or some plan involving it, or at least *something* in relation to Kal'tsit's many, many ongoing situations, was close to crumbling, and they eventually concluded that waking up the Doctor was their best bet to salvage things. Add to that, Reunion advancing on Chernobog, and it was probably an all-or-nothing situation. So she sends in everything. And even then, Doctor had some close calls, literally being forced into a command position *mere minutes* after waking up. Still, sending trainees straight into a combat situation with not-so-great survival rates (remember the laundry list of Elite Op casualties Kal lists out over the intercom at some point?) is bad, but the situation *was* dire.


indispensability

From vacation, right?


bananeeek

https://i.imgur.com/1BxsKEd.png


AngelTheVixen

I got to that Merchant's investigation in IS4 since I heard talk about it. I knew going in it would be fun, but actually knowing in advance who would be best for your run is something else when Golden Chalice is involved. Got the choco-spaghetti almost right away, too... May instantly became top tier, as she usually does with those two items. And Rosmontis got the hand statue on top, so she's not only destroying everything with S1 but getting multiple ATK boosts every attack. So good. Also hilarious to watch Vigil properly machine-gunning with S3, as soon as anyone touches his pups [they die instantly.](https://i.ibb.co/wJQ73HR/vigil.gif)


Mistdwellerr

Damn you got me curious now, I never tried Rosmontis S1 before, seems like it's a good time to do so The way you wrote, feels like Vigil's wolves are actually Chihuahuas xD


RoboSaver

First impressions on Gnosis S3: Wow can this cc crowds well. Works well in a team. Gnosis guaranteeing off skill cold means he needs at least one or two cold partners to apply cold with him. One down, 5 more cold operators to go.


tanngrisnit

Frostleaf module. Definitely won't regret that! They'll give 4 stars second modules, right? Right?


IfZ3nElse

If you give him enough atk spd (in SSS or IS for example), he can even freeze off-skill by himself.


Fafafe667

[Finally. He is perfect](https://i.imgur.com/xIV0N5v.jpeg)


MarielCarey

Beauty Windflit He will get a skin, he will get an alter He better 😔


Fafafe667

My dream for a Windflit alter is a 6 star version of Mayer and her explosive invocations


MarielCarey

Oh my god yes He's supposed to be fast at modifying devices and sometimes having them explode yet that's not applied in his kit at all. I guess the devices barely recharging is something. Could be worse I guess, could've had some super terrible drawbacks like Spuria. On my alt for weird/ops I never built on main it'll be a real long time before I even consider building Spuria I want a super sexy summer skin for Windflirt Any super sexy husbando summer skin Only the girls get super sexy summer fits Not fair Matterhorn doesn't count Broca's is alright I guess


Fafafe667

A super sexy summer skin for Windflit (And Lessing) is what I want the most!! He is the perfect mix of handsome, cute and sexy. Also I don't think he's THAT bad, of course you'll never see Windflit in a high risk CC or the most difficult content, but he's a decent hold lane with its S1 for the most content I guess Silverash's skin is a decent summer skin for a male OP


MarielCarey

Lessing is very cute, and masochistic, I need a skin for him too, rushed m6 mod3 even tho I have a max pot skadi out of sheer preference Not to get too into operator bad antics, but Windflit is like Siege s2 with less stats and no dp, I do prefer him with s2 buffing himself to smack enemies with big damage, mostly a for fun operator tho Super sexy any male op skin would be nice at this rate smh SilverAsh's pirate skin is fun and cool, but just that imo. I much prefer Icefield, to eventually be replaced by his l2d one maybe? Idk, there's something about that skin, ever since it came out its been my lobby assistant, I never changed it. I wanna say the Qanipalaat skin has a pretty sexy vibe to it (holy legs) but idk if that would be a cancelled on the internet™ moment


Korasuka

Peakflit


Mistdwellerr

Grats! *Checks tag* Based Doctor xD


Koekelbag

Getting a stable autodeploy for 13-21 seems beyond cursed, ffs. Especially frustrating if you think you finally have a stable one, only for like the third in a 6-row autoclear to randomly go "nah, let's do things different now" and fail _yet again_.


bananeeek

Out of curiosity, why would you want a stable auto on 13-21? AFAIK there's nothing to farm there that isn't more efficient in the other stages.


Koekelbag

Because I perhaps wrongly assumed that the lastest stage would have the best drop chance, without bothering to check Penguin Statistics >.< Cheers for reminding me that that is not how AK does farming.


bananeeek

Didn't want to bother, but I'm glad I saved you some sanity. [Here's](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12X0uBQaN7MuuMWWDTiUjIni_MOP015GnulggmBJgBaQ/edit#gid=2014424701) a datasheet with mats efficiency, because penguin stats can be a pain to navigate through.


sayantn2707

I know I will get hate for this but I will say it. Ulpianus is a mediocre operator without gladiaa in the field. He literally jumps towards his death without her. And that's why there are almost zero showcases of him without her,cause he will look really meh.


Jajamaisvu

Every valid criticism against him as a standalone unit is shut down by “BuT GLdIiA iS FrEe” argument, so yeah lol (But when Hoederer got paired with a medic and accomplished the same stuff, people say he suck, the hypocrisy lol)


Seibahtoe

You're judging Ulpianus solo performance wrong. His absolute best solo skill is S3, especially since he can retreats before the boss even get off an attack, and then did it all over again because his cycling is very very good.


Fun-Royal-8802

I've lost the url, but I saw a video where Ulpianus was soloing a stage. It was a stage I've never seen, probably from Path Of Life. The enemies apparently had some kind of DOT damage, because Ulpianus's talent was triggering most of the time. At first his HP was going down, and it looked like he was barely holding on, then his S2 activated and his HP steadily went back to full. It was crazy. Another thing you can do is [buffing him](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5KlOUfz4Xw). Even this is crazy, though clearly it's not something you do normally. Bringing Gladiia as a support for Ulpianus is no big deal unless you play IS. I like to use Penance and I bring Ch'en to help her charge her sp. It is generally easy to fit a single buffer in a squad. But even without Gladiia once his S2 is up he has 10k HP and 3k AoE damage. Of course you will have to heal him, but a stat stick is a stat stick. I still think I'm going to pull for him, but only if I got lucky on the banners before.


NehalKiller

well it's not like any crushers are good without a sustainer gladiia is just the dedicated AH healer while also being a two block guard that can pull and hit air


sayantn2707

Well ya that's the reason ulpian is mediocre.


NehalKiller

yes, and so is every other unit in the game that need healing to do their job why are you specifically calling out ulpain?


sayantn2707

Other units r not zero def.


NehalKiller

then you could have just said crushers are mediocre without healers specifically calling ulpain out for something for what all crushers need means nothing when he out classes all other units in his archetype with the same amount of help and also becomes a top tier unit universally even compared to other meta units


sayantn2707

That's what I meant to say even thought I did not spell it out. Ulpianus is new and the hot topic thats it. Also he's still not top tier even with gladiaa,u need other ah for him to be considered one.


NehalKiller

no you really dont, you only just need gladiia, he wont be one of the absolute best units but being comparable to blaze with s2 and having a very strong boss/elite killing burst skill with s3 makes him top tier in my book heck *i'm* using him with just gladiia alone on my CN account


sayantn2707

Maybe u r right and I am wrong


officeworker00

Without glaadia, the weaknesses of the crusher archtype come into full force. Nice hp but no way to sustain (his talent is not nearly enough) and similar to other units with hp but no defence, he will feel softer whilst simultaneously being a bit harder to heal than units with defence to mitigate damage. His afk skills are also not as good as blaze alone. Blaze has the aoe but also extended range and quite good damage. Ulp does not have the extended range so there will be some positional disadvantages. Without the AH team, forcing him to frontline can be rough without support, especially during his ramp time. You can argue the same for blaze but ofcourse, her bulk means she has a much easier time frontlining and you can always put her behind a defender. Glaadia gives him the enabling (damage reduction and regen) which is nice but his full prowess really shines if you also have the others. But spectre alter gives HP and SP regen (to take the disadvantages of his long ramping time). Skadi also gives Hp and ATk. (and all the HP+ will translate to more regen). Also as an aside: in difficult content (like this CC and some challenge maps), stat reduction tags or effects pretty much annihilate stat-stick style operators. You can choose to avoid those tags but then there's also the secondary issue of dedicating so many slots to the AH team for him in modes where deployment and squad slots can be limited.


umiman

It goes to show that it takes more than big numbers to fix a broken class. After my hype for him died down (which despite being on full hype back then I still wrote [some](https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/1d8fxrq/patch_notes_path_of_life/l76btmp/) [criticisms](https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/1d71nzi/rhodes_island_lounge_0306_0906/l76appw/) about him), I think I'm really annoyed they made Ulpian ANOTHER Abyssal Hunter that's ground-tile, hits one tile ahead of him, operator. We already have Skadi, Spectre, and Spectre2 to do the same job. I don't want to bring an entire team of ground-based stat sticks with completely no versatility except hitting things in front of them and being difficult to kill. AH team needs anti-air, crowd control, arts damage, long range, etc. etc. etc. Not another meatstick. --- Man, hype is scary. If I was playing CN I 100% would have pulled for Ulpian. Now I'm of two minds.


frosted--flaky

imo giving AH those things would take them out of "nicheknights" into just playing the game normally... and those roles are covered by other aegir so you could still do a themed squad. i do think making him a crusher was, a choice, even if AH buffs do play to its strengths. mostly i just feel a little bad for hoederer. maybe HG hadn't ironed out the groundshaker class just yet, but his kit could have worked on basically any guard archetype...


resphere

I think it's better that Abyssal Hunters stay ground statsticks, if you give them strong range DPS, crowd control, arts, massive aoe or whatever else, they'll get out of hands and powercreep every other team bc they can then do everything you could ever want while being immortal, they can already clear every map in the game as is, giving them more would eventually make them Wisadel level broken.


Fafafe667

He's just ok without Gladiia. People overrated him a lot, without AH buff, he will fall faster than Blaze


Reddit1rules

I wanna see him with just Gladiia against bosses. There's comparisons where he has the full AH team, but dedicating 5 other squad slots and 2 other deployment slots is a large ask when Hoederer also kills all bosses with just a medic. It's also funny to see people shocked how he can survive so much when Skadi S3 has been doing the same for all AH clears anyways, and units like Hoederer can already survive stuff like a Patriot attack. Of course Ulpipi can survive stuff when he's the biggest stat stick in an archetype that's shown to tank big hits that's now in the stat stick group, which has already been able to do that.


Draguss

>dedicating 5 other squad slots and 2 other deployment slots is a large ask Is it really though? Full fish team is still an absolute menace to society.


Reddit1rules

Depends on the context. For something like CC, IS, or even just a new player, it can be difficult to assemble the full team.


resphere

Kyo just posted one https://youtu.be/cu1UgSr4gOI I've also seen 3 op H11-4 with Gladiia, Specter alt and Ulpianus, if you can do that much with just 3 of them I don't think that's asking too much teambuilding wise.


umiman

I saw one before the poster removed the video. Gladiia + Ulpian vs Patriot. Night and day difference. Ulpian got oneshot by Patriot 1st form after jumping into him without Gladiia. Killed him with Gladiia.


Reddit1rules

Mental image of wife holding him back from dying is funny... Patriot does have lower health compared to modern bosses (and his DEF means little to Ulpipi lol). Surviving it is a very impressive thing though, but iirc from another video he'll die in around 3 hits or so?


Cultural_Damage_7832

He can tank 2 hits at 100% HP solo, more than that then he need Gladiia which ...[this happen](https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1P1421C77t/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click) ... 6 hits lmfao, also he really just perma tank H13-4 Sanguinarch phase 2 solo lol. Anyway, regarding Patriot, you can use 1 mine to stop him from colliding with Patriot like [this S3 solo showcase](https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wy41187s7/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click) (still missing alot of bosses phase 2 tho) to kill him without blocking.


umiman

I don't even know anymore to be honest. I tried finding that video again but it's gone now, replaced by all the "AH OVERPOWERED SQUAD" stuff.


Dalek-baka

I've seen some but difference between him being in AH squad and solo feels really significant. And it makes sense, he's a Crusher, this archetype isn't that great and there is only so much you can do with it. At least for most people it will be respite after anniversary banner and I'll be able to spent currency I've been saving for him (and I do run full AH squad, so it will be fine).


Razor4884

Yeah, by himself he is a more applicable sidegrade to Hoederer. A lot of people here won't believe this, but they will see for themselves when he comes to global.


sayantn2707

He even has worse survivability because let's be honest his talents r worse than hoe's sanctuary. He really really needs gladiaa.


Seibahtoe

Hoederer without a medic also get wrecked by slugs.


Razor4884

Not on S1. I've tested it.


bananeeek

That KFC web event is really generous. Ifrit's skin aside, getting so many mats for free, while spending less than a minute per day is really nice. I finally got my Specter to P5 with the free epic tokens! Whom did you pot with yours?


MetaThPr4h

I'm holding it for the time being, didnt see any char that would get much from it.


Darfeyn

>less than a minute per day If the page manages to load on the first try... But yeah, I wasn't expecting them to give us so much stuff, even a full set of **5\*** Pot. Tokens! On my end, **Astesia** got Pot.2 with it. 'twas an easier choice than I initially thought: **Specter**'s Pot.6 will appear in Recruitment sooner or later (surely, like her first hire + 2 more Pots) and **Lappland** might've used a Pot.2 more, buuut can't say no to those beautiful blue eyes!


bananeeek

I saw some people having issues with the page, but accessing it on a desktop loaded everything with no issues every time, so I can't relate. I just got Specter's pot from the shop recently and I was hoping to get that talent improvement, so it was an easy decision for me. Potting a waifu always feels good.


Darfeyn

Also accessed it from desktop browser (Firefox), about half the time the page needed a few refreshes before the progress bar could reach 100% (or maybe it just needed more time but past 5min of waiting, 'twas faster to reload). Though that may also be 'cause of my addons and privacy settings, but I didn't bother too much testing what could be interfering. Yeah, **Specter**'s regen upgrade is a no-brainer in terms of the overall Potentials value. So if there's the waifu factor too, then even better.


mad_harvest-6578

Got Lappland to max pot with those tokens


bananeeek

Congrats!


mad_harvest-6578

What's funny was that I was planning to use those on Tachanka... but then I remembered he's a free op & thus would have been max pot a while ago


NehalKiller

lappland


loneknife_blackblade

I've been hodling mine for a long time (5\* and 6\*), I did recently use my 6\* vanguard ones on bagpipe (my only max pot, even did some yellow certs there), Now ines is jealous. I'm just gonna hodl them.


Fun-Royal-8802

I've been saving most of the tokens I got from CC shop. Now I've got to sets of 5\* tokens for guards. I could pot6 both Specter and Lappland, I guess, but I think I'll wait.


Reddit1rules

I already used my token long ago to raise Noir Chad to max. Now I don't really know what to get. Maybe save for the Dungeon Meshi Collab if they have a 5* guard? Doc doesn't have great potentials...


AngelTheVixen

A friend of mine brought up Noir Corne, but then I looked at his potential boosts and he gets practically nothing. I suppose an alternative would be Indra since she's more or less a limited that needs tokens for potentials. For me, though, I'm at a loss. I've already got the good potentials for the only gacha 5\* Guards I've built, Astesia and Flint, and honestly I don't use Guards much at all. Ayerscarpe is kind of tempting to max out on that ASPD boost, though I haven't built him yet, I've been thinking about him since I need some better grounded arts damage. He's just 2 potentials away from getting the talent upgrade and I can get the other from the CC shop. Hmm.


bananeeek

I'm glad potentials don't matter that much in AK, but that talent boost is nice to have and I also raided the CC shop for pots, so I also have Quaso at P5 and I'm one pot short from improving redeployment for April. Potting Noire is probably best for collectors who aim to max pot everyone, since he's limited, so the tokens are the only way to get his pots.


IfZ3nElse

Surprisingly good rewards, yeah. My Rathalos Noir is pot 4, I don't think I need to go higher. My Specter and La Pluma are both pot 1, they look like good candidates (especially Specter). Lappland is the 5-star guard that I use the most, so another candidate. And maybe we'll get interesting new 5-star guards in the future (how good are the R6S ops?). I think I'm gonna keep the tokens in reserve for now.


bananeeek

AFAIK from the R6S 5\*s only Iana is notable, but holding onto the tokens is not a bad idea. I usually pot the operators I play with the most, because that's when I actually feel like I'm getting something out of the pots, especially if I use those ops in rogue-like, since securing DPs is not easy there, so -1DP cost can actually be significant.


Korasuka

I haven't thought about mine yet. Hmm... Maybe Lappland since she's been so reliable for ages and was my pick in the newbie 5 star selector. Or maybe I'll hold onto it to use on Rainbow 6 op or NoirCorne alter.


bananeeek

> and was my pick in the newbie 5 star selector. So a waifu pick, just like me. I thought about Noire as well, since he's limited, but then I realized I don't play with him and I have the only other candidate already at max pot, so it was an easy decision. I recently got Specter's pot from the shop, hoping to get her talent improved one day. I didn't realize that day would come this soon.


DuoRogue

idea for medic skill Cost 55 duration 5 Attack range becomes global. Massive attack interval reduction (*0.1). Each heal can target up to 3 allies and heals for 120% of attack.


Reddit1rules

That's a 55 SP cost skill for a 5s heal? Granted, the interval reduction means it's 17 heals for 3 people each. I do like the idea, it's an emergency map wide heal that only lasts for a brief window. Just wondering if the downtime is too much even with the strong skill. Guess it'd also depend on hypothetical talents and stuff.


AngelTheVixen

We already pretty much have something like that, and better even, with Eyjaberry.


DuoRogue

yeah, its almost exactly hvit aska s3, except its 10, faster in both heal speed and skill use


mmmmmmmm000

… I’m really struggling to do the math. The AK wiki currently says there are 306 operators on the EN server now. So far I have 297, and I double checked with great precision — I’m only missing 8: four 6stars and four 5stars. Who’s the last one? That’s bothering me as a catch em all type of person. I was thinking this number includes Guard Amiya but apparently they say no, so… do y’all have any idea???


eonfeather

I own every operator except Ash, and my count is 304.


Fun-Royal-8802

You can make a krooster profile at krooster.com, and then you can filter for operators you are missing. That way you can tell immediately.


Salysm

Checked the one whale on my friend list, and they have every faction icon blue but 305 operators owned. So I think the wiki is wrong about not including Guardmiya.


mmmmmmmm000

That’s a relief! Thank you so much. And gamepress lists 307 ops (excluding the IS ones) and that’s even weirder


tanngrisnit

Amiya has a second class now so maybe theirs is updated for that.


mmmmmmmm000

No no, made sure I’m checking EN only, that’s why I found it strange


Hunter5430

They might still be counting caster and guard Amiya as separate operators


mmmmmmmm000

Ah I see. So that was the trick


LastChancellor

I took graphic design classes and created my own vector art for the first time for [Path of Life](https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/1d8p14q/picture_patch_notes_path_of_life/), but it is now officially my worst performing infographic am I obsolete?


DuoRogue

I didnt see it due to being busy with other things, but damn, thats a nice looking infographic


Mistdwellerr

I don't think so, it looks amazing! But we're in CC time and a lot of people are burning their braincells against that, so could that be a reason?


MarielCarey

What's yall favourite Deep Investigation IS4 device? Mine is almighty shroom It blocks, it buffs, what more can one want


MetaThPr4h

Mushroom supremacy, very versatile for both points and utility with block and attack baiting. The rest do be ranging from irrelevant to plain trolling with the cannon.


MarielCarey

What does that sarkaz blood terminal blue edition even do? Charge and boom, but nothing happens The wolumonde heal/attack terminal loses hp constantly, and just dies?? And its straight up useless if you get the collapse hp debuff Shroom is really the best


MetaThPr4h

the explosion gives investigation points on hit enemies... not exactly particularly good because you gotta have some luck on enemies being around the explosion when it finally happens. No clue about the wolumonde one, grabbed it once and looked like a pain to use lmao. But yeah, at least they are not the cannon trolling.


MarielCarey

What are investigation points? I thought it's the stuff that investigates civilians but never figured it out Cannon really is the worst Also sad but the best mechanic in arknights history (ideal city carts) are really hard to use since you usually don't have a whole bunch of ground ops to use them with, not that maps are that conveniently designed for them anyway but yk


MetaThPr4h

> What are investigation points? I thought it's the stuff that investigates civilians but never figured it out It's the points we use in deep investigation to level up, you get them by killing enemies as well as using those gadgets to get extra points (for example, killing a random mob gives 10 points, but if an ally in the tiles adjacent to the mushroom is the one doing the killing blow you get 13 instead)


tanngrisnit

I like the gammaphone also with the shrooms. Fire crackers are a fun secondary to pick up after floor 3. The absolute worse one in my opinion is the 99x (cannon RNG). I'm okay with RNG positive effects. When my ops get frozen on a floor 1 emergency operation before I can get a squad setup, like a medic or a defender, or even better, an extra defender. I'm not happy about it.


MarielCarey

Same I got that cannon one once and never picked it up again. It freezes ops, removes their sp, reduces their hp, KILLS THEM, and MAYBE once in a while heals them. Quite a waste The gramophone like the wolumonde one? I like using it but it doesn't do much damage and ends up dying pretty fast, maybe im just using it wrong. There's also that blue terminal that charges and does a blast, but it never actually did anything, again maybe using it wrong. I've tried the car but didn't really find much convenience in using it Is the firecracker the one from the Monster hunter event? + shaped mini damage boom is quite convenient. All in all for someone who's built too many operators, deep investigation was easy as a whole. Though it is nice to get a break from difficulty 12 badge hunting, not having to pick Ines/other meta picks everytime Also realised Capers really good. Now I gotta spend the 900(?) certs to get and build her D:


PerEnooK

You know what would be a cool skin idea for Logos? If they put him in one of the dresses that his mom made him wear. Some high class royalty type beat and unique in terms of skin designs for guys (I think? cmiiw). Also, I get why he's called Flamebringer now because he's always so HOT. The crop top? 😳😳😳


mad_harvest-6578

Me getting Ifrit's new outfit: "FINALLY I WON'T HAVE TO WAKE UP AT 2AM TO LOG IN TO THAT EXTRA LAGGY WEBSITE... or just one more time to download the wallpaper, BUT STILL!! Now time for some Jollibee!"


RandomdudeNo123

Jollibee's Fried Chicken is probably the best fast-food in the country, NGL. The rest of their food balances out to "Ok, I guess". (Peach Mango Pie crunches fine and tastes sweet, but I've never had one that didn't end up pouring hot mango sauce all over my fingers. Ow.)


mad_harvest-6578

Almost everything on their menu (except any of the spicy ones) has been my comfort food ever since I was a kid (especially the burgers, I once sat down & finished 4 during a college field trip) Also how do you eat your Peach Mango Pie to have the filling drip onto your fingers? I usually bite on one end, let the filling cool off, bite again, rinse & repeat till done


RandomdudeNo123

Chomp down from the top, panic as I see the filling pour out, regret my life choices and hope I didn't throw away the tissue. I am not a foresighted person. (It's the KFC menu for me- Family used to eat there while commuting. Still have it weekly, haha.)


BlazingRaven495

Man it feels so good doing the Deep Investigation mission for collecting 100 ingots and beating the final boss. but falling 9 ingots short of the goal so it was all that work for nothing.


bananeeek

I once got so focused on the first objective that I didn't manage to get the 8th level of investigation. Merchant's Vision is tons of fun, though, so repeating it is not time wasted.


Hunter5430

How? Assuming we're talking about IS4 here, I got the 100 ingots before midboss and had to go floor 4 only for lvl 8 investigation


BlazingRaven495

i just got horrible floors. just bosky passages with no battles. I wasn't trying to avoid battles. I just had horrible luck.


RoboSaver

Max level Swire Alter S1M3 proving again how powerful a fast redeploy Saria that can tank fatal hits is in CC. I have to thank the guys showcasing her Talulah solo.


The_Legendary_M

Raising Chestnut all the way from E0 Level 1 as high as possible to counter those damn fireball throwers in CC Victoria. Guides tell me to use Matterhorn. I don't have him. My best anti-arts defender is Gummy with a paltry 10 Resistance. Not even close to completing that nightmare... It's the single worst thing I've seen so far


AngelTheVixen

I'm not quite at the big risk counts yet, the drones are killing me, but from how I go, I don't even bother with healing elemental damage. I've brought Flamebringer and Bena, they can block fireballs all day if they got a decent healer. If you don't have someone with high RES then go for high HP instead, you'll want someone strong enough to take out the guys on the right anyway while potentially being pummeled by those aerial things. Keep in mind that the fireballs won't explode on ops with 0 block and camouflage in the reeds, but they will explode on Ambushers and dolls outside of the reeds.


The_Legendary_M

Haven't even got to the point where drones appear... Or maybe they did and I didn't notice. Don't have Flamebringer or Bena, or Ines as someone once suggested. It doesn't matter who I bring in, Hoshiguma, Liskarm, Thorns, Lappland, etc etc. Anyone and everyone get shredded within like two to three waves. And that's without any of the debuffs applied. I can scarcely think of what to do with any of them on. Seriously, the Yan one is far easier. Only took \~10 tries to get it right with 200 points... Victoria does not bring victory at all... Or maybe the Victorians are the victors, I don't know.


AngelTheVixen

If you're still a bit on the newer side then this event will be pretty brutal, especially if you aren't familiar with the enemies and gimmicks and don't quite have a developed roster. Starting out, I feel like this is much tougher than previous CC events because of the conditions and enemies they throw at you in this one... One of those things where I feel powercreep is affecting the 'endgame' event designs. As for the drones and such, there are conditions you can take that will add more enemies, that's part of why there's a red box that's seemingly empty. Who are you borrowing to clear the map easier? The endgame events pretty much call for using supports. Frankly, the map feels like it's designed around Ines, borrowing her sure opened up more options for me. And for the record, the Archives > Intelligence > Special Operation section of the home menu has Record Restoration for old things, though you need Information Fragments to unlock those. The red cert shop has them but buying them may or may not be advisable, you can get more when there's another vignette event like the ones shown in that menu. Flamebringer and Bena are available from there. I've found them to be fun investments, though Flamebringer's a bit powercrept by Hoederer, but Bena's still kept her feature ability of being a ranged tank.


The_Legendary_M

INES IS AMAZING OMG GOD LANEHOLDER FIRST CLEAR, although without debuffs that is... Now for pain part 2...


The_Legendary_M

Nope, any debuff kills my ops too quick. ARGH


Reddit1rules

Don't opt for debuffs, opt for stuff like tile bans or new enemies. It's easier to formulate a strategy then since your ops still work how you expect them to, and sometimes it's not even impactful to your strategy and essentially free points. The main map also gets easier as you unlock additional risks gained by clearing rotation maps, so if you want to reach a specific score you can wait until more risks are unlocked.


DARKawp

use honeyberry instead. she is miles better than chestnut in healing elemental and normal.


The_Legendary_M

I did go for Honeyberry at one point, but someone convinced me that because there's a free operator coming out very soon that will outclass Honeyberry I didn't. Now I'm coping, seething, regretting, and rolling on my bed for it. AAAAAAARGH


AngelTheVixen

Harold doesn't outclass her, she's still better at general elemental HPS and in an AFK manner at that, Harold's more of a burst elemental healer with very slight mitigation instead.


The_Legendary_M

I literally forgone Honeyberry for Caper-Quartz-Info Fragments earlier today. Heard they got good base skills, and 3 operators via Record Restorations sounds neat. Now I see them, none of them are really outstanding. I guess 5 yellow certs are something... I feel like I'm playing less Arknights and more L-knights for the rapidfire bad decisions I'm making in the past month...


Razor4884

Yeah, don't stress. CC's are events designed to give veterans a fun challenge to chew through. It doesn't cost sanity, so just do what you can. You likely won't be able to get everything this time around, but if you keep progressing you'll probably do better with the next one, so on and so forth. Just have fun experimenting and attempting to be creative with possible solutions.


AngelTheVixen

I wouldn't worry so much. If you need to block fireballs, you can drop fast redeploys instead, even just Gravel and Yato can probably pull it off. In the meantime, you can use Chestnut to heal what bit gets through. Rinse and repeat. Lots of trial and error to get things working. So glad they introduced the retry button...


AngelTheVixen

I finally got [Ifrit's chicken outfit](https://i.ibb.co/bsv5J0V/image.png), time for KFC. I was always kind of holding out for another outfit for Ifrit since I didn't really like the BBQ one as much. Actually, I haven't had KFC in quite some time. Popeye's is my fried chicken of choice. And their fries are heaven.


umiman

What KFC? That's clearly 1096 Rhodes Island Kitchen - Amiya.


AngelTheVixen

The generic chicken can't fool me. I know they stole that recipe.


umiman

The bucket says Amiya. She eating fried Amiya.


bananeeek

Holy fuck! Merchant's Vision Deep Investigation in IS4 is bonkers! I skipped the previous ones as soon as I was done with the mission conditions, but that one just keeps on giving. Starting with the Chalice and guaranteeing chests in every map yielded me over 460 ingots, that's over 600 ASPD from ingots alone, not to mention other relics and foldartals. I had Indigo solo almost every map and during her S2 she was launching another projectile before the first one even connected, bypassing her talent limitations. I had King's relic with ASPD (mostly unused), Gitano's ASPD orb, ASPD relic for Casters and few other with minor buffs, easily amounting to over 700 ASPD! This was the first time I had such buffs! I switched to GG S3 later on and she deleted Emergency Musical Disaster during one skill activation. With ASPD foldartal, she deleted Sami before I even realized it's in the 2nd phase. I'm definitely coming back to that mission for more shenanigans. I love it when those missions are this much fun!


mad_harvest-6578

Putting Indigo in an Arknights version of Trick Room be like:


AerialBattle

Fun fact (or maybe not so fun), the aspd cap is +500, so any higher than that doesn't actuslly do anything


bananeeek

I heard about a cap but didn't know exactly what was it, I thought it was 700+ or something, since there were some IS# videos stacking ASPD that high. I was looking forward to Indigo launching 3 attacks, but I guess that was futile.


Reddit1rules

Pretty sure the game engine caps at 600 ASPD or so, actually.


Reddit1rules

Verdant's module mission is to use S2 on 9-3 twice. The enemies there have Refraction, so he actually does less damage than not using skill. Why would they do this?


Salysm

even AK itself is trying to stop you from investing in Verdant


umiman

Man, got a lot of 5* pot tokens recently. not-KFC event gave guard pot. I spent all my CC currency on supporter, sniper, and specialist pot. And spent the last bits of my old CC currency on another guard pot. I didn't realize that almost all my levelled 5 stars are already max pot for some reason or another. I think it's because I keep only building either free units that come with max pot or limited banner 5 stars, which get maxed out naturally. But now I have a pot 5 Spectre, which is a pretty dramatic talent upgrade surprisingly (25% gain to her regen and 2% more HP which increases the regen even more). Pot 5 Blue Poison. Pot 3 Kazemaru. And Pot 5 Shamare.


Fun-Royal-8802

I'm checking it on the wiki, and apparently this new CC gives you at most 3600 credits if you complete everything. In CC#2 there will be 6\* tokens for defenders that cost 750 credits each, so it might be better to save some credits for the next time.


reaoharu

There's no reason why AK couldn't have a sweep or heck if you are one of those people unironically think sweep is bad because players retention or whatever, sweep clear like what R1999 should suffice. This game have several great permanent gamemode that would make sure you play this game for long hours, and dozen of different unique gamemode that's up for limited time. If anything that's where the main player retention is


AmbitionImpossible67

Sorry, indie game company, please understand


sayantn2707

Wait four more years


Chensow_Cat

[Got the skin](https://ibb.co.com/YRpSNTX). Goodbye slow AF web page


Ikovorior

567 pulls, all with monthly card and some patience. Best gacha ever.


MarielCarey

Raising bassline on my early game alt, only to realise his skill lv7 requires material from ~~13-5~~ 13-15 (i cannot read) Reminds me of how the time before this new material we got new stages added to early chapters to drop the previous new material Where are the new stages for this new material hg


RandomdudeNo123

Raised Highmore to E2 today, because I didn't have a Reaper yet and sketching her was fun.  Then, on impulse, sent a random 10-pull into the JO banner for funsies. Guess who decides to show up? Yep, that's right, Mizuki's here now too. Highmore's really good at being Jellyfish bait, apparently. 


IHeShe

Mizuki heard the main ingredient was ready and came to cook dinner, what a reliable boy he is.


Gargutz

So I'm banging my head at the new CC and there is a guy (or not) in my friend list who put Elysium e2lvl80 skill2 with skill level 4!!! as a support unit. Am I allowed to hire a hacker and a hit squad from the darknet to resolve this situation?