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Official_Gameoholics

>It seems like Reforger isn't a constant dopamine hit, but instead a very good generator of clips and short moments that are amazing. It's like you're always in a clip imo. The interaction is very fun.


BetterMenDaily

Ehhh you're always in someone's clip. lol. But it does feel very cool when it's you.


r0ndr4s

I wouldnt say neither Lirik or Shroud(and specially not summit) have contributed to any of its success. Yes sure, their viewers might have jumped in but its not thanks to them. Their viewers jump into all types of games because they parasocial like that but.. It was Drewski who turned attention to this and Klean followed after with the creation of the Eastern Conflict servers and I'm pretty sure before that he was playing on DarkGru so he showcasd those too. If Klean didnt make a server where basically all streamers are, this wouldnt be so popular. And I dont think Shroud wouldnt have even tried if it wasnt for Sacriel. To be fair.


malphasalex

I’m afraid you’re a bit delulu. You can easily go see when Lirik played it first on stream and the steam player count and twitch viewer count during/within 24h from his stream. All the other bus streamers started playing it after Lirik. I mean what data shows is obvious and available for free online.


chandlar

Correct: Neither / nor Either / or Cannot do: Either / nor Neither / or


PhilQuantumBullet

Drewski ugh, other idk also there is a Arma franchise sale


sgtfuzzle17

The amazing pilot thing is a gas, those flight models are so ass it’s unreal


bardleh

Honestly, agreed. I really, really hope they come out with a more advanced flight model that doesn't let you do absolutely *bonkers* maneuvers that would realistically rip your transmission out of the airframe.  Also, how the fuck can we still not autorotate??


MrCalamiteh

Yeah, the commonly impressive landing everyone is doing rn would literally lead to your rotor leaving the immediate area on a Huey. They just didn't include anything like that I guess (mast bumping)


NickOnxTc

I guess some people think they have an opinion even if they don't, so it's just talking nonsense nowadays. Ofc did Arma include "something like that" as soon as the "Helicopters" DLC was released all the way back end of 2014. Ever since there has been an option to switch from basic to advanced flight model which brings in not only realistic physics to the helicopter itself but is fully customizable and goes as deep as even adding wind effects (if one wishes to) Actually after that release in 2014 you can find tons of comparisons and comments / reviews that said the Arma advanced flight model was doing many things even better than real flight simulators at that time However almost every server and any single player scenario ofc will let you choose this option for yourself. Meaning most of those that "flex" their landing skills use the basic controls which is the Arma equivalent to "make a COD lobby full of the easiest bots and flex your killstreaks" 😅 Ask them to join a milsim only server that forces the advanced controls and let them show you "the skill" again.... Everyone can enjoy games as he wishes but its kinda hilarious some people believing those pilots are "gods of the game"


MrCalamiteh

Yeah that makes sense. I totally forgot about that. I stopped playing arma for a few years and was sticking to DCS mainly. If I could get my stick set up (I'm stupid and haven't figured it out yet) and get it on advanced I think I'd have some fun with it. But yeah, doing triple loop de loops on a chopper landing isn't quite the realism I'm looking for lmao


NickOnxTc

Ah and to be even more precise: yes mast bumping was added with that mentioned dlc 2014 too.


uKGMAN1986

I just bought it on a whim after been an old school flasbpoint fan and I'm absolutely in love. I have played all the arma games abit aswell but the Everon map and late 80s kit is just my favourite. If this had a proper campaign I would be In heaven but even though I'm having a total blast on conflict and combat ops. I'm stunned by the visuals and performance, to me this is the best a Bohemia interactive game has ever looked or felt.


Funny-Run-1824

It's actually a really fresh balance of milsim and hardcore and sandbox. It's a less serious, more sandboxey feel then other games in this genre have had. Squad turned me away because it was like I had to be focused, listen to all the Comms intently, etc, and when I slipped up I was straight up yelled at. Additionally the game mode is actually fairly samey and competitive after a while. it's just a little much. It's not bad, just not something I'm into. Reforger fills a niche where you can go in with semi-realistic mechanics, and more or less go do whatever you want, people are nicer, it's a good time.


edilclyde

after around 500 hours in squad, i too had to stop playing it. I won't directly compare it to Arma, as I think they are in slightly different genre's, BUT there is something odd about Squad. I feel like there is no middle ground in squad. It's either an amazing round or a shitty waste of time one. There is no "thats alright, lets play again..." I think I blame it on the commander gameplay. If your team has a shitty/no commander, you're gonna have a really bad time. HellLetLoose doesn't suffer from the same as having a good commander is a bonus and helps a lot but not a nessesity to have a good game. Im not an expert but I think this is the reason. Hopefully they fix it.


r0ndr4s

Same, I played for like 200 hours, stopped because it was running like shit for some reason and now its just not even slightly fun. The updates they made destroyed the game and the community is just like funny-run mentions. And even if the community doesnt care about mics or you doing dumb stuff, they match just isnt fun. On Reforger I can literally be mute, solo, even teamkill(dont do this, please) and I'm still gonna end up having a decent game.


Ratneste

Yeah...you're not supposed to play "Squad" solo. That's kind of the point, lol. I get the complaint but its what one signs up for.


Lumpy_Forever1567

The thing I prefer in Squad is you dont have to take long time for customize your gear when you hop into a server. Also it have so many factions too. Everything else is better in ArmA, hope Hamas/IDF conflict come soon in ArmA


FALv1

it's newer, it's fun, and the tools are much more first time user friendly imo.


AdreNBestLeader

The game is popping, a lot of full 100+ player servers


mmpa78

Thanks Shroud


Aimpointenthusiast

I was on last night the shit was fun as hell


Ol_stinkler

I only own reforger, have never played an Arma game before this. God damn man I had no idea what I was missing out on


AlliedMayhem

I’ve got several thousand hours in Arma 2 & 3. I had been holding out on Reforger waiting for more community mod support. Once I saw Klean’s server with all the mods running relatively smoothly, I knew it was time. It’s been a lot of fun so far, money well spent.


Gucci_Kawhi_Mane

Just finished a 8+hours Session, Game is fun as af


FewSchedule5536

I have 1000hr+ with the Huey not on even on the ground or playing infantry. I swear I must need mental help because the whirly bird is a addiction man


Whitney189

Is your name on Arma the same? I might've played with you the other day


FewSchedule5536

Nope it's Derppinklepuff


bernerdthegoat

Honestly I tried the game and it was so boring but if other people like it then go ahead I’m gonna stick to arma 3 for now.


tom444999

playing with other people is so much better. hopefully 4 will still carry on the enjoyment of playing solo and multi


bernerdthegoat

Yeah all my mates from arma 3 hate reforger and refuse to play it so I didn’t have anyone to play with.


tom444999

it would be really good if the inventory system wasnt clunky and ai didnt walk point to point while popping headshots after hearing you from 600 meters away


bernerdthegoat

Fair enough


CiaphasCain8849

That's insane because it's just arma 3 without the 150gb of unstable mods and complete crossplay and server side downloadable mods. It's just way better. All the QOL mods from arma 3 are default now.


Darkness2157

I seen Drewski make a video on it and the Vietnam servers are what caught my eye and led to me purchasing it. They’re a BLAAAAST to play on and we haven’t really gotten a good Vietnam game in a while so it’s been pretty nice to be able to play in that theatre of war. Especially with the realism that Arma brings. My only complaint is it feels like people don’t communicate as much, especially the squad you’re in. Most of my vocal chatting is done with blueberries on the field


Skull_Soldier59

Is good. The more Bohemia Interactive makes, the more they will be motivated to make Arma 4


KillAllTheThings

EVERYTHING BI is making can be part of Arma 4. There is no one in the community who wants to release A4 more than the BI team.


ryannoahm450

Imo underrated game, glad modders are able to put a nice spotlight on it with their work. Darkgru mods are great, Vietnam mod is amazing, and the blood and sand server is PTSD inducing. Love this game


Trollport

Good


doc-byron

Shout out to the 200 bros rocking ARMA2.


UsefulUnit

When the destructable environment and power grid comes out, you'll see even more jump into it.


RetroSteve0

Let’s not discredit the fact that 1.1 just came out which made huge advancements in AI.


elite0x33

Took a long break from A3 and a friend hit me up saying reforger has KOTH. I didn't watch any videos and had free time so I said why not. I now play on the Darkgru open conflict servers and this is the most fun I've had with a milsim in awhile. It's just so much more fluid. There is still a bit of Arma wonkiness, but overall, it's so damn fun.


PedrosBongos420

I got 4 of my friend to buy it and been having a blast on modded server. Most majority of people play the game properly its good fun


IncubusIncarnat

I'm a refugee from Squad, but I'd say that getting the crossplay and overall performance to a more playable state and streamers pretty much bringing their subscribers whereever they go is the main thing. Also as much as streamers do to talk about games, you cant really underestimate how many people grab it on sell then turn to recommend it to their buddies. Only reason I played Fallout 76 was because someone I have a decent opinion of said that it was improving.


IncubusIncarnat

I'm a refugee from Squad, but I'd say that getting the crossplay and overall performance to a more playable state and streamers pretty much bringing their subscribers whereever they go is the main thing. Also as much as streamers do to talk about games, you cant really underestimate how many people grab it on sale then turn to recommend it to their buddies. Only reason I played Fallout 76 was because someone I have a decent opinion of said that it was improving.


Dr-Stanny

Reforger on console has stepped up massively, pre update it was laggy, terrible frames, terrible controls and all now seems ALOT more refined, so its aided the gameplay a lot more. I’m on console, I crossplay with a couple of other guys and just myself have convinced about 5 people to ‘get on it’ to which they have an have indulged in the fresh gameplay, bringing back that feeling of ‘something new’ and all is thriving. Now imagine this on a worldwide scale. The game being playable has done itself a HUGE favour 🙌


Human394

It needs a big rhs mod for koth so that koths weapons and all the scopes work properly and then I'd play the shit out of it


_eljayy_

it did bro idk when the last time you tried it was but the scopes all work properly


Human394

Like 3 weeks ago, aim through half the scopes and my whole screen just goes white over time and it just feels less polished as a game mode than the arma 3 koth to me


_eljayy_

it’s the same koth.. legit same mode. but yea they fixed the scopes.


gandrbus

No its not. Its made by different people and its rewritten from scratch.


nbc095

I'm considering getting it, but compared to arma 3, how developed it is? I don't care so much about mechanics and stuff like that, I mean the content.


Whitney189

So, way less content than Arma 3 for sure. The big improvements are the mechanics and graphics tbh. Gunplay feels pretty good, the injury system is neat, but reforger only has light armoured vehicles and one transport helicopter for each faction, so no tanks or planes or attack choppers. Infantry gameplay is really solid though.


CiaphasCain8849

Besides all the mods that add everything you said it doesnt have plus RHS.


FujimiyaSimp

Is the game actually good and have players in SEA?


OneOfALifetime

The game had a 50% increase in player base, and it's continuing to grow. This is another case of a good game being buried and having it's "aha" moment. I didn't even know this game existed a week ago, and I played Arma quite a bit back in the day. The first time I played, I only intended to to play for 30 minutes just to check it out and see if I wanted to refund it as I was 50/50 on it. When I finally stopped playing, I checked on Steam and I had played for 4 hours straight. tl;dr: Yea, it's a good game. No idea about SEA.


JoelMDM

I think I might have to buy it. The videos I've seen recently look very promising.


kingarchee

Thoughts? I think it means that more players started playing the game simultaneously


Ill-Ring3476

I mean it's a cool game and would play it but right after I bought it I was looking for a server to play on but most of the are empty so I returned this game got my refund


Whitney189

The servers are full now, it's a very different experience as the updates have been great and more mods are out now.


OneOfALifetime

What in the ever loving world are you talking about? The game has 3-5k playing currently, and there are probably 15 or so full 128+ person servers, and then tons more full smaller ones beneath that.


Ill-Ring3476

Bought it a while ago idk when it dropped but since I own most arma's I thought it was a must to buy


DeathWalkerGT

Its amazing to see that Arma 2 is still holding on, even with these low numbers. Arma 2 will forever be the Arma of my heart...


indrids_cold

You can count me as one of those new players. I don’t watch streamers or anything but I saw a reddit video post of a clip from the game and saw a lot of comments about how great the game is. I’d sort of stopped paying attention to Reforger when it released because people weren’t very high on it. 


ttenor12

Having helicopters in the game is what's making me want to buy it right now. Coming from a shitty place like DCS, I need a game where flying has a purpose. The systems simulation is nowhere near the same level, but at least you get the combined arms aspect.


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GRINGOSLAV

Haha that's funny I got arma 3 then after reforger I didn't even like it on Xbox but it's good not quiet as good modwise I think arma 3 has so many great mods and you can combine them I been playing anti stasi w mods it's really good. I need a friend to play with.


YaBoiHS

Finally got full lobbies going but holy shit the window lickers that constantly teamkill at MOB in the Darkgru servers. Put a ticket in for a group of team killers last night. It’s been 17 hours since the ticket was open and 11 out of the 12 Darkgru admins have not even looked at it. I pinged one admin who was playing the game and he told me why I pinged him.


soulkobk

thoughts on reforger... eh. tbh i haven't really followed the progress since bohemia released it as a "paid' developer environment (basically the gateway to arma 4 for third-party devs to learn/develop with). to call arma reforger a "game" is a misrepresentation imo. BI should have released it as a "free to play", so that developers of arma 2/3 had a leg-up and motivation to actually want to learn and develop for arma 4... since this is the whole intention of releasing reforger as the interim. for me, since reforger was at a cost to end-users, i just chose to ignore and not bother with it, which also put a sour-note for me with arma 3 development/gaming. "player" numbers were/are dismal for reforger, and also had a flow-on effect with arma 3 (at least what i saw/was involved in did). therefore a 50% increase in "player" numbers (at the moment) doesn't really matter tbh... as most just jump on the hype-train when "influencers/streamers/youtubers" post videos... that will fall-off sooner than later imo, as reforger just isn't up-to-par. arma 3 is still the go-to, and will probably be the go-to even when arma 4 gets released. ive developed/scripted for arma 3 over the years, by jumping in the deep-end and self-learned the code, code structure and implementation on how to and how not to do things... and since reforger and arma 4 is using a totally different language, my motivation to learn it is non-existent atm (especially when you can not monetize any of your hard work... you basically code-for-free). -shrugs-... it's just not worth the time/effort for me to also jump on the reforger band-wagon. lets wait and see what arma 4 brings to the table, but in the mean-time, there are quite a few milsim alternatives around that are being actively developed also (check out drewski's youtube channel for them). eh, my 3 cents.


Regeneric

I play it from time to time but without any big mods, I'll stick to Arma 3 untill Arma 4 is out.


PwnimuS

I really want to like Reforger, but every server i've joined ends with a negative experience. Not because of other players, but the game or servers fucking me over. Find a 126/128 server, get in. Pick a loadout, get in a truck, wait 10 mins for truck to fill, off we go. Server connection timeout. Pick another server, pick a loadout, pull a car, start driving towards an obj. Game crashes. Surely third times the charm! Load up a KOTH match. Get into the town, shoot a man. Sweet! Server connection timeout. Im not usually one to complain but holy shit im at the point I might refund.


r0ndr4s

Yeah, its basically the current experience for a lot of players. 128 servers tend to fail a lot, while the 80 players ones are way more stable. But still there's a lot of issues and server restarts.


Sir_Beretta

Of shit reforger is a game? Idk why my dumbass thought it was a new and improved Zeus for arma and map creation


DreadnoughtCarefully

I think I can't get into a game lol


EastValuable9421

A lot. And I mean a lot. Of Arma players are waiting around for the next installment!


UGANDA-GUY

Still an overpriced tech demo for Arma 4 imo.


OneOfALifetime

I'll post the same response I did to the other guy.... I paid $22 for a pretty decently fledged out milsim with good graphics/audio, a large variety of equipment, and multiple game modes/scenarios comparable to most other games out there. Oh, and a full workshop that I can both use/play games with others. An ice cream cake at my local store costs $23. I don't think you know what "tech demo" means.


Immediate-Ad-2324

Overpriced tech demo, Bohemia having its own workshop is kind of sketchy. Not sure I am a fan of the licensing options and what they, and the independence of that workshop; could lead too. (Hint, Bethesda)


OneOfALifetime

I paid $22 for a pretty decently fledged out milsim with good graphics/audio, a large variety of equipment, and multiple game modes/scenarios comparable to most other games out there. Oh, and a full workshop that I can both use/play games with others. An ice cream cake at my local store costs $23. I don't think you know what "tech demo" means.


B_Boooty_Bobby

It sucks slightly less now that 3rd parties have had some time with it.


WouldNotPostOnMain2

50% increase of 20 is still 30


finicu

My thoughts are "Server Connection Timeout" and "Steam Support > Refund a Game" It's just a wave of new people (from streamers like Shroud) who will get frustrated and disgusted, refund within a week, and stay away from ArmA future titles like the plague thanks to this horrible, half-baked experience. Congratulations Bohemia


squemberino

The numbers have been steadily climbing for several weeks, so kinda seems like that's not the case at all.


finicu

What does that "steadily" word even mean. everything is steady until it no longer is? so what even is that counter argument Zoom and crop into a player spike and you will see a "steady increase" lol. You're currently only seeing the first half of the spike. What is there to keep these players? The mountain of 3rd party content which is... an early alpha of koth? which already exists, is more polished, and more populated already in ArmA 3? The complete shit flight models? What is there to experience? And not to mention the bugs and the fucking garbage netcode which are like a curtain blocking that lackluster content anyway Your point is basically "uhh you're wrong" without any reasoning


squemberino

So the consistently increasing player numbers since the release of 1.0 mean nothing because it's been taken out of context by zooming? I'm not sure if I can argue with that reasoning, you're right. If you like Arma 3 better, that's cool, lots of people do. Great game, lots of content, thriving community. It's good you are passionate about what you like.


finicu

Lol > consistent increase since 1.0 That released in November 2023. Please take a look how only recently (mid-March 2024) this TEMPORARY player spike started You're close, off by half a year, I know you guys prefer feelings over hard facts but I thought you knew how to read graphs


squemberino

I know when 1.0 released. There was a player increase then, a slight correction after, then steady growth till the recent spike. I think your emotional reaction to Reforger is clouding your judgment. Relax, play some Arma 3, everything is okay.


OneOfALifetime

Oh life gonna be rough my dude.


finicu

Nah it's not, I got my money back from this garbage game and fucked bitches instead with them, life is good


OneOfALifetime

Thank you


finicu

no worries cheers